My current Block list for Experts: Novice - Kyatts Adept - Pyre Foxes (Ornus) + Dark Kebbit (Cervus - This is to Kebbit Swap when I get Expert Kebbit tasks, see Counterfeit Kebbits video) Expert - Generally Orange Salamanders but I kinda do whatever, if you can't get Kyatt in Novice just block here and do the other. For Master I would block Pyre Fox in Adept, Sunlight Antelope in Expert, and then basically whatever else you want, it's up to personal choice.
Setting up the novice block is the hardest so far, especially when you are master tier, since you have so many options. I ended up blocking tecu salamanders on novice, pyre foxes on adept and red sallys / sunlight antelopes on expert. Good master setup for contracts / hr!
I would setup your adept to be spotted kebbit because dark kebbit can be assigned by expert, you are losing out on an extra good task minimizing kyatts and orange sallys
This is by far the most comprehensive guide I've seen in a while that is also approachable and presented in a way that makes it easy to understand for a dumb dumb like me.
Thank you! The vast majority of the video was figuring out how to convey it without being too complicated so I really hope it made enough sense to help you out.
I feel like the one-time rerolling via not accepting is def a bug and gonna at least be attempted to be fixed. Doesn't seem safe codewise for the same master to be giving 2 tasks lmao Very good video tho!
I wouldn't be surprised, but even if it is fixed, it's totally possible to simply do the task, push it to the "bank", then farm lower rumors to pull it out and then just leave it untouched. So a bit more work and you will have to do the bad task at least once, but then you're set!
My blocklist, which took me about 2 hours to get is: Novice - Herbi (Already have pet and it's a very long rumour if you get unlucky) Adept - Pyre Fox (Make sure u block this on adept because it's the only rumour that is shared with master) / Razor Kebbit Expert - Sunlight Antelopes / Red Sallies Getting a casual 130k to 140k xp/hr without much effort, around 8 to 10 rumours an hour done at 99 Hunter.
I don't get it. I spent hours getting antelopes/foxes etc on adepts and experts without touching them again, now the master has given me both. Is there a certain order? Kinda pissed off
Did you accidentally get a new task from the Novice? that will reset all your tasks. Go check the adept/expert and see what they're offering, it might have been reset.
i'm not sure where I fucked up, but I just got a Master Pyre Fox... - never bothered with a Novice block - got a Pyre Fox from Cervus (Adept) as a new task (not reroll), never touched Cervus again - moved on to Experts, got Red Sally on Teco (Expert), Sunlight Antelope on (Aco) and never touched them again. - on the Experts, I sometimes rerolled with Wolf (Master) -- if Teco gave me a Sabre Toothed Kyatt, I'd do a Herbi Master, for example. - thinking I was done, I moved on to only masters and it seemed like it was working, got on a good streak then boom, Pyre Fox.. any ideas on where I went wrong? I'm 100% sure I never talked to Cervus since getting the Pyre Fox from him
I found out about this an hour before this video and I watched the whole thing and it is still confusing 😂😂😂 definitely not a jagex intended mechanic, but I’m glad we found a way to not do more fucking foxes 😂😂😂
I had moonlight antelopes stocked at the novice, red chins in adept, red salamander in adept, sunlight antelope in expert and herbiboar in the other expert. Master still gave me moonlight antelope to hunt despite only having dashing kebbit, tecu salamander and moonlight moths supposedly available. Am I doing something wrong?
Great guide. Jamflex really need to sort this out, it shouldn't be such a chore to sort out your blocks, and it should be possible to view what blocks I have with which master. They need to overhaul the block list system and make it like slayer, needlessly annoying at the moment.
Bro i wish i knew how to make plug ins cause i would make a plugin for both hdos and runlie to make tracking this stuff easier by inclient ui list if some one knows how to make them hmu on details and designs but GREAT vid 10/10 made this new content easy to digest and understand
Amazing - I really hope Jagex doesn't nerf/'fix' this system by any means ... it really makes you think about the task blocking instead of mindlessly clicking one button and 'that's that'. Took me a while, but I got both adept givers to have two of the worst tasks so I never have to worry about them again in the expert tasks. (bear in mind, it may take a few dozen tasks to get set up properly; using the novice master 'skip' is also beneficial to reroll them all if you get a 'whammy') Cervus is the only one who can get razor backed kebbits (noose wand) but can also get pyre foxes like Ornus can - My task block list looks a little something like this: Novice task giver: Moonlight moths (this one can be better, but in honesty im afraid of accidentally rerolling all other tasks on accident with this guy so ive just left it :P) Cervus: Razor back kebbits Ornus: Pyre fox Aco: Sabre toothed kebbits While using Teco as my main task giver seems to be yielding very good xp/hr at lvl 88 - around 160k~ The only tasks that kind of suck with that given layout is you will still have Kyatts and Antelopes but I don't mind them for the teleport charges/bolts on my iron :)
Yeah I know it's super unintuitive and can be a bit tricky but once you set it up properly it honestly feels soooo good and I can't imagine going back to doing every lame task I get.
Hi dude. Everytime I don't want to do my Expert task, I will ALWAYS get the same two tasks from Masters? Why is this? It's always Orange Salamanders or Razor Kebbits??
Because they never change unless you either do them OR after completing a master rumor, decline the new one and instead go talk to the expert master. you'll get a new one from them so long as you don't go and talk to anyone else. that's how you reroll them off the sallys
Im confused still.. when I try talk to other hunters they just say something along the lines of 'I heard youre hunting X for X.' and wont offer me a rumour?
Great advice and your guides are genuinely so helpful for us, but please man learn the word Adept! Listening to you saying Adapt was really frying my brain!😭
Im really confused, ive just got a pyre fox task from the novice task. I went to the master and he said he can swap to another task, do i want to do this or will this mess up pyre fox with the novice guy?
Nope, the novice guys pyre fox task is "saved". basically as long as you don't reroll your entire stack the novice will continue to offer the pyre and you can just do masters (or adept/expert) over and over and you'll never get pyre foxes!
The real hunter is trapping the fox in your rumor list! Just remember that novice has the widest range of tasks so it might be easier to trap it in adept instead! Otherwise you'll be doing a lot of novices before you finally hit the fox.
IMO the optimal block list would be Pyre Fox and Sabre Toothed Kebbits on Adept, and then either Kyatts or Razor Kebbits in Novice. This leaves: Orange Salamander, Grey Chins, Dark Kebbits, Red Sallys, Red Chins, Dashing Kebbit, Sunlight Antelope + Kyatt/Kebbit (whichever you left open)
I'm really curious if this system is here to stay, or if it's unintended and will be implemented out. The temporary tasks that npcs can offer outside of their long term task is extremely unintuitive for people coming into the system blind.
NPC indicators Plugin in RuneLite! I just Shift right click and tag them all individually, but you can also add their names manually in the plugin settings.
Not sure if this changed in a recent update but according to the wiki if you're doing Expert Rumours you don't need to waste a block slot on Pyre Foxes - if you get your rumours from Teco he doesn't give Pyre Foxes.
My current Block list for Experts:
Novice - Kyatts
Adept - Pyre Foxes (Ornus) + Dark Kebbit (Cervus - This is to Kebbit Swap when I get Expert Kebbit tasks, see Counterfeit Kebbits video)
Expert - Generally Orange Salamanders but I kinda do whatever, if you can't get Kyatt in Novice just block here and do the other.
For Master I would block Pyre Fox in Adept, Sunlight Antelope in Expert, and then basically whatever else you want, it's up to personal choice.
Setting up the novice block is the hardest so far, especially when you are master tier, since you have so many options. I ended up blocking tecu salamanders on novice, pyre foxes on adept and red sallys / sunlight antelopes on expert. Good master setup for contracts / hr!
I would setup your adept to be spotted kebbit because dark kebbit can be assigned by expert, you are losing out on an extra good task minimizing kyatts and orange sallys
@@Jaguaist thanks bro im going with this fck it
Dude, I'm so happy that you're still keeping up the amazing content even after Leagues.
Gotta kill time until the next one :)
I love how the devs are still coding like it’s 2007 so we can have fun figuring out how to take advantage of whacky systems like this
This is by far the most comprehensive guide I've seen in a while that is also approachable and presented in a way that makes it easy to understand for a dumb dumb like me.
I love the visual and explanation you put together, very helpful for conveying a complex concept
Thank you! The vast majority of the video was figuring out how to convey it without being too complicated so I really hope it made enough sense to help you out.
Your guides are super underrated, I love your presentation style
My fucking face when realizing your name comes from Fox
I feel like the one-time rerolling via not accepting is def a bug and gonna at least be attempted to be fixed. Doesn't seem safe codewise for the same master to be giving 2 tasks lmao
Very good video tho!
I wouldn't be surprised, but even if it is fixed, it's totally possible to simply do the task, push it to the "bank", then farm lower rumors to pull it out and then just leave it untouched. So a bit more work and you will have to do the bad task at least once, but then you're set!
I voted no to the foxes in the poll because I love foxes and didn't want to hunt them. 😢
They might as well be an endangered species given how few of them there are
Ahhhh ya big wetwipe. If it helps the examine text says they aren't happy to see us so headcanon they are plotting against gilenor like the penguins
Nobody wants to hunt them xD For a different reason though.
But i have to admit it, they're too cute to be crushed :'c
saamee 😭
*casually goes to slaughter baby blue dragons*
What overlay plugin are u ussing for the names
This was super useful even just using the most basic premise of it! I went and talked to the novice and he immediately gave me pyre foxes. Thanks!
Thanks so much for visualizing this, I'd made the concept makew so much more sense.
i hope they make it so you gain more experience during rumours rumours really need some buffs
So i keep doing expert until they give me pyre fox then do master after that?
Yup! But I would advise do adept til you get pyre fox instead
Do not block dashing kebbits. All falconry tasks are AMAZING
My blocklist, which took me about 2 hours to get is:
Novice - Herbi (Already have pet and it's a very long rumour if you get unlucky)
Adept - Pyre Fox (Make sure u block this on adept because it's the only rumour that is shared with master) / Razor Kebbit
Expert - Sunlight Antelopes / Red Sallies
Getting a casual 130k to 140k xp/hr without much effort, around 8 to 10 rumours an hour done at 99 Hunter.
you def made that way more complicated then it actually is
I don't get it. I spent hours getting antelopes/foxes etc on adepts and experts without touching them again, now the master has given me both.
Is there a certain order? Kinda pissed off
Did you accidentally get a new task from the Novice? that will reset all your tasks.
Go check the adept/expert and see what they're offering, it might have been reset.
how did you make their names appear overhead on the npcs? awesome guide btw
I got Pyre Foxes on my Novice and hallelujah! Never touching that again, forever blocked.
Now just never touch it again! until you choose to move it to adept for max efficiency :)
@@doubleshinemines in adept ;) now to figure out what to put in novice
Has your opinion on Pyre Foxes changed since the update on 3/27?
I haven't tried them but I still would guess they're one of the worst tasks. Deadfalls are just really damn slow without some massive buffs.
i'm not sure where I fucked up, but I just got a Master Pyre Fox...
- never bothered with a Novice block
- got a Pyre Fox from Cervus (Adept) as a new task (not reroll), never touched Cervus again
- moved on to Experts, got Red Sally on Teco (Expert), Sunlight Antelope on (Aco) and never touched them again.
- on the Experts, I sometimes rerolled with Wolf (Master) -- if Teco gave me a Sabre Toothed Kyatt, I'd do a Herbi Master, for example.
- thinking I was done, I moved on to only masters and it seemed like it was working, got on a good streak then boom, Pyre Fox..
any ideas on where I went wrong? I'm 100% sure I never talked to Cervus since getting the Pyre Fox from him
What is Cervus currently offering you? You may have gotten the Cervus task without a rumor active and therefore it was only a temporary task.
@@doubleshine you mean I should have an active task (say, from Wolf) *and then* reroll with Cervus to try to get a Pyre Fox?🤔
By any chance can you pin what are your optimal blocks that you have please?
Pinned!
This was the only video which actually made me understand how temporary tasks work. Very well presented, thanks!
I found out about this an hour before this video and I watched the whole thing and it is still confusing 😂😂😂 definitely not a jagex intended mechanic, but I’m glad we found a way to not do more fucking foxes 😂😂😂
the graphics make this so easy to understand. thanks for this!
I had moonlight antelopes stocked at the novice, red chins in adept, red salamander in adept, sunlight antelope in expert and herbiboar in the other expert. Master still gave me moonlight antelope to hunt despite only having dashing kebbit, tecu salamander and moonlight moths supposedly available. Am I doing something wrong?
Great guide. Jamflex really need to sort this out, it shouldn't be such a chore to sort out your blocks, and it should be possible to view what blocks I have with which master. They need to overhaul the block list system and make it like slayer, needlessly annoying at the moment.
Bro i wish i knew how to make plug ins cause i would make a plugin for both hdos and runlie to make tracking this stuff easier by inclient ui list if some one knows how to make them hmu on details and designs but GREAT vid 10/10 made this new content easy to digest and understand
Shouldn't have to jump through hoops like this for blocking and skipping cmon jagex..
Amazing - I really hope Jagex doesn't nerf/'fix' this system by any means ... it really makes you think about the task blocking instead of mindlessly clicking one button and 'that's that'.
Took me a while, but I got both adept givers to have two of the worst tasks so I never have to worry about them again in the expert tasks. (bear in mind, it may take a few dozen tasks to get set up properly; using the novice master 'skip' is also beneficial to reroll them all if you get a 'whammy')
Cervus is the only one who can get razor backed kebbits (noose wand) but can also get pyre foxes like Ornus can - My task block list looks a little something like this:
Novice task giver: Moonlight moths (this one can be better, but in honesty im afraid of accidentally rerolling all other tasks on accident with this guy so ive just left it :P)
Cervus: Razor back kebbits
Ornus: Pyre fox
Aco: Sabre toothed kebbits
While using Teco as my main task giver seems to be yielding very good xp/hr at lvl 88 - around 160k~
The only tasks that kind of suck with that given layout is you will still have Kyatts and Antelopes but I don't mind them for the teleport charges/bolts on my iron :)
Yeah I know it's super unintuitive and can be a bit tricky but once you set it up properly it honestly feels soooo good and I can't imagine going back to doing every lame task I get.
Hi dude. Everytime I don't want to do my Expert task, I will ALWAYS get the same two tasks from Masters? Why is this? It's always Orange Salamanders or Razor Kebbits??
Because they never change unless you either do them OR after completing a master rumor, decline the new one and instead go talk to the expert master. you'll get a new one from them so long as you don't go and talk to anyone else. that's how you reroll them off the sallys
Im confused still.. when I try talk to other hunters they just say something along the lines of 'I heard youre hunting X for X.' and wont offer me a rumour?
Great advice and your guides are genuinely so helpful for us, but please man learn the word Adept! Listening to you saying Adapt was really frying my brain!😭
There's no reason for this level of complexity from rumors, either buff the droprate/xp or let us manually block certain monsters.
Amazing video. Keep it up. And I think they can give the same. I tried to cancel my black kebbit task and both adept masters kept giving it to me.
Ill take any deadfall trap task over razor backed kebbit tracking. If you prefer these then you smoke crack
For some reason none of this made sense to me lol
Agreed. No idea why he didn't show it hands on.
Thank you for covering some of the more niche Varlamore content! I'm learning a ton of cool new things 😄
i keep getting razor backed kebbits on both expert guys. Thought he said that wouldnt happen?
incredible explanation, you consistently blow me away with your guides and videos. keep up the great work much love 💕
Why does everyone hate Pyre foxes? They're good heals for irons and its very chill/damn near afk.
"My name comes from fox"
"Double shine"
OHHHHHHHH now I get it
Im really confused, ive just got a pyre fox task from the novice task. I went to the master and he said he can swap to another task, do i want to do this or will this mess up pyre fox with the novice guy?
Nope, the novice guys pyre fox task is "saved". basically as long as you don't reroll your entire stack the novice will continue to offer the pyre and you can just do masters (or adept/expert) over and over and you'll never get pyre foxes!
Pyre foxes, always skip after once going 100+ dry.
Super helpful, really great verbal and visual explanations!
Let me block every task except dashing kebbis plz Jagex
Brah this is to big brain. Just do master tasks only and watch number go up
Hey man, what are you suing to have the npc names display above?
Dame this is so nice to know, im going to trap that dame fox in novice to never see it again
The real hunter is trapping the fox in your rumor list! Just remember that novice has the widest range of tasks so it might be easier to trap it in adept instead! Otherwise you'll be doing a lot of novices before you finally hit the fox.
Novice still gives feed which you'll need for the other landing spots when the rest of val opens up so I'm all good taking the chances
Great video, glad to see the channel grow since leagues
instructions unclear i think i'll just hunt myself next time
So what’s the optimal block list for farming expert tasks?
IMO the optimal block list would be Pyre Fox and Sabre Toothed Kebbits on Adept, and then either Kyatts or Razor Kebbits in Novice.
This leaves: Orange Salamander, Grey Chins, Dark Kebbits, Red Sallys, Red Chins, Dashing Kebbit, Sunlight Antelope + Kyatt/Kebbit (whichever you left open)
Good
Guess I’m blocking razor back kebbits
Don’t you get worse rewards for lower tiers though?
They can actually give you the same contract
They should just add a blocklist
THIS
CHANGES
EVERYTHING
I'm really curious if this system is here to stay, or if it's unintended and will be implemented out. The temporary tasks that npcs can offer outside of their long term task is extremely unintuitive for people coming into the system blind.
Thanks for the vid but man is this wonky. Hopefully they add a block board or something to make this more streamline
love this new expansion. my only complaint: wheres the slayer?? seems like perfect area for new slayer dungeon and some new monsters.
Life saver! Did 160 Sabre tooth Kebbits (deadfall trap) and no rare thingy. Definitely blocking those!!!
They buffed the foxes btw
thanks a lot man, this much better. gonna try and get the outfit before wednesday's update just in case lol
Great guide! It's very efficient and I appreciate that you took your time for this. Gave you a sub 🙏
thanks for this video. blocked sunlight antelope. red salamander and fox task in 4 task
Thanks so much man! Super necessary info for my Varlamore UIM
for someone who does masters, what is people's ideal blocklist on each tier?
incredible explanation, as always. glad to see i can rely on you for great info after leagues, too!
Actually
Thanks for this guide. Kept it very simple and the examples were straightforward. I hope you do more in the future!
T2 and T3 only have pet rolls. Keep in mind :)
This is great. I’m curious how you figured this out though 😂
but it's a pyre fox! FAIYAAA
need the soundbite going MISSION COMPLETE when I hand in the rumor
Thanks for this, made my master rumour grind so much smoother
What hunter tasks should i have blocked
is there a pic to see the locations on varlamore
So glad you put this together, this makes a lot of sense!
That's genius, good to know
This changes everything
I got a dark kebbit once
Great vid How were you able to label the hunter masters names over their bodies like that ?
NPC indicators Plugin in RuneLite! I just Shift right click and tag them all individually, but you can also add their names manually in the plugin settings.
Nice video, helped a lot
Thank you so much dude
Not sure if this changed in a recent update but according to the wiki if you're doing Expert Rumours you don't need to waste a block slot on Pyre Foxes - if you get your rumours from Teco he doesn't give Pyre Foxes.
Very helpful and informative video thanks for taking the time to explain this.
Ah yes sextant blocking
So if I get Herbiboar on Novice then its blocked from my Master level right?
Yup! Just don't touch the Novice guy and you shouldn't get any more Pyre Foxes from a higher difficulty.