Great content and analysis. Really demonstrates the difference of mentality in elo ranges. 1600+ almost unanimous but more split lower down. This is really helpful
I think this video is great. For me, the list of options always included ideas that hadn’t occurred to me, so that was really useful. Evaluating the usefulness of each plan is difficult so I think more videos of this type would be really well received.
I would love to take more of these surveys in the future. Very instructive and personalized content. To make it better, I would give us an option of moves to pick the best one and then in the video we can learn if we had the right mindset when we picked the move we did. Maybe four candidate moves might be more digestible. But this is good stuff. Keep it up!
I like this video a lot too! Might also be cool to add a timer or ask people to keep track of their time spend analyzing the possition to see how much quicker a higher rated person would find the right idea.
really liked this video. really helped with thinking through the process of calculating in looking for as many threats defensively, attacking, and keeping in mind positioning. love to see more, good stuff!
I liked this video a lot! It was good exercise to try and figure out what to do in these positions. And seeing the multiple choice options gave me a better idea of what the range of plans could be in a chess position. I also liked how you explained the pros and cons of some of the choices. I definitely learned something! When both solutions turned out to be about pushing pawns, I thought that you might be leading up to some larger point about how pawns can be used. Was it just a coincidence? I was surprised you didn't mention it. Anyway, I hope we see more like this, thank you!
As a 1600+ player, both of these moves came pretty naturally to me. I will admit my first instinct in the second puzzle was Re1, but considering there was no obvious follow-up (the light-square bishop was sufficiently defended and there were no pawns/knights/bishops/rooks to put pressure on the pinned piece), the correct move was obvious. I'll be honest some of those responses did seem pretty humorous to me, though. Be3 attacking the pawn which could just be defended by b6 is not a move I would have considered even after an hour of looking at the position 🤣
It was interesting. I thought the pawn would be too far in the second game. I don't think I could have converted the position anyway. Try showing the wrong moves first and explaining why they don't work instead of after the correct move. Thanks
Too far in what sense? It's only three squares away from promoting, and the first push comes with tempo. It also forces black to tie down at least one piece to that pawn, and because he has no good way to defend the f6 pawn, even without promotion his position quickly falls apart.
You have the best chess videos on the internet. Thanks. Logic is important in chess, and here are some statements you often make that don't make sense, logically: 1. Very unique. 2.The reason is because. 3. If you had a chance to look at that, the best move is...
Great lesson, as always. I blew it on the 2nd puzzle. I thought the rook pin on the bishop looked more promising. Great stuff! I'm a better player because of you.
This was really interesting, both to think about the position one self and then see what plans players of various strength would choose, followed by the explanation. I like it!
I really like this type of video. I'd be interested in seeing some harder positions that separate the players out a bit more, and more exploration of some of the sidelines.
Really like the interactivity here and hope you'll do this more in the future! Also, please make a short video or something when doing community posts to increase visibility and participation :)
This was great. I didn't see the poll in the community tab. I vaguely remembered seeing the 2nd position before finding the right move almost instantly (also opposite color bishops made move more obvious)
Never in a million years would I have thought trading Q's in the first position was the best plan. I saw that but as like "that just trades queens". I was thinking castling to connect my rooks and begin the attack, maybe create a rook-rook battery to go with the queen-bishop one I have at the start of the position once my f-h pawns begin advancing.
This is quite stunning! But to be honest, as a 900 elo player, I did not see e5 potentially trap the knight at all in the first game. But I see I can push a pawn to attack a queen, and the pawn is protected well, so that must be the best move for me😅
I think one of the more obscure lessons here is that sometimes, a weaker but crystalised plan is better. If you know the optimal move but don't know how to bring it to completion you'll make a grave mistake at some point. Obviously, If you know the moves you're golden :)
Fabulous & so instructive , thank you ! Yes more of these type of videos please & I also did not see a Google post , don't' know how I could access them or what to look out for in the future , if anyone could help
Try to find a plan without looking at the multiple choice options first. Then see if/ where your plan is on the list. A better test of your playing strength
I don't really like the phrasing of the solution of the first one. You're not really trying to trap the knight. You're getting a pawn storm through attacking it.
1200 here. I would have pushed the e5 pawn (I got it right) but I was thinking more along the lines of attacking the queen and threatening Bxh7. I wasn't thinking about trapping the knight. Trading on d5 was the worst move imo since you are pinning your own knight. My second choice would have been Rook b1 to control the open file.
So the first one ended up not trapping the knight, keeping the king in the center, and immediately pawn storming the kingside… (which is the one I picked)
fun video, but a little too easy. wasn't part of the questionnaire but i got both of these right as a 1200 rapid/900 blitz you could consider having maybe 4 positions increasing in difficulty and see how each rating range handles it. could also consider open questions to see if they can come up with the idea themselves
I liked it. I paused the video before I saw the multiple choice just to see what I'd come up with and I came up with similar stuff. First one I was a bit off on but 2nd one I got right without looking. I felt good that I calculated that through and I ended up being right.
i think that plan + sequence of moves is better, or just allow the user to be a little more indepth but i would get if you wouldnt implement it because it would be alot of work
As a player chronically stuck in the 400s range I can see the right answer on a multiple choice quiz but could not come up with the idea organically. 😢
Was good, but I think could maybe be changed to "From your initial observation with no hindsight and knowledge of this list of plans, which of these on the list appeared to you as the best plan, if any", as opposed to giving them the options first which most everyone will go "Ah ha, I see the best plan now, even thought I didn't come up with it on my own". I.e., I didn't see pushing D5 until I read the list, then chose it. Which gives less variability in the elo ranges.
If black plays Ng3 at 7:00 I would lose the game as white. I though you can just attack the queen in between and than capture the unprotected knight. But black can sacrifice the queen. After 1. ... Ng3 2. e5 is the only drawing move Nxe2!!. Here it would be a mistake to capture the queen 3. exd6?? Nxd4+ 4. Kf2 Nxc2 5. Bxc2 and black is up one pawn and the pawn on d6 can't be defended so white is 2 pawns down.
As a 700 elo player I do find it hard to see what will be the best move in the end when in a tricky situation. I liked this video, because it showed many good possible moves, but why one was better then the other.
Problem with #2 for me was not really getting anywhere after d5 Qe5 Qxd5 Bc6. Checked with stockfish and it says it's even, also Qg3 was top move. #2 was not very good because there is no clear followup + it's not a winning move and many moves work. #1 was okay. Both "answers" were my intuitive 1 second responses, but I started to doubt #2 after some calculation.
d5 is the best move, the plans are great and winning for white. and your notation doesnt make sense.. blindly listening to a computer isnt always the best idea.
@@jcru102 Not sure if you are a troll or you genuinely believe you are better than Stockfish 17. Either way, you are wrong. If you can't read simple chess notation, you should probably find something else to watch. Qg3 is slighly better than d6 and I believe stockfish over some random guy who can't understand standard notation if it isn't numbered. The puzzle is not good because the position is 100% equal after a few correct moves. He even says that .. Qc3 was the critical mistake. If the solution to a puzzle requires "a critical mistake" to work, it's not a good puzzle.
@@piflah Care to give the timestamp of where your plan wouldnt work? Also in the position, if you played Qg3, what good will it do if you do not have any plan? Beep boop its 0.07 better but I dont know why.
@@jcru102 12:04 Qe6 instead of (blunder) Qc3 and it's drawn, but I calculated a different line for black where you go Qe6 directly instead of running into Bf4. Either way you can't hold onto the pawn. It was the idea I went for but I couldn't get it to work.
@@jcru102 Also I never said I would go for Qg3, it's a computer move I don't understand. My move was d6 which is one of many alternatives. Rf1 is another.
I suppose I have to go with my instinct. If I think too much I end up choosing a bad option. At least I knew how to finish the game, ignoring the threat on my rook…
I got the first one right despite not seeing the full follow up, but the second one was so obvious I honestly can't figure out how anyone got it wrong. My best guess is that they thought it must've been a trick question, but even still, the idea is so straightforward and annoying for black that most people would almost certainly play it in a real game.
I'll be honest, I am so bad at chess. Although I settled on the best move in position 2, I did not see the correct analysis at all. I guess at my level you sometimes fluke the correct move out of general principle even though you analyse some inferior line black would play because your still are so ordinary at the game. I picked up the Queen had to stay guarding the F6 pawn but looked at QF7 rather than the much better move QE5. As for the final rook exchange necessary to promote the pawn, probably wouldn't see this in a month of Sundays. Chess is such a hard game for us mere humans 😂.
I like this style of video.. really shows how differently each rating range plays.
I would go King f5 bcs i am nuts😂
Great content and analysis. Really demonstrates the difference of mentality in elo ranges. 1600+ almost unanimous but more split lower down. This is really helpful
I think this video is great. For me, the list of options always included ideas that hadn’t occurred to me, so that was really useful. Evaluating the usefulness of each plan is difficult so I think more videos of this type would be really well received.
Excellent video Nelson! I like how you walk through the various ideas of the correct answer and explain why it's better than the others.
I would love to take more of these surveys in the future. Very instructive and personalized content. To make it better, I would give us an option of moves to pick the best one and then in the video we can learn if we had the right mindset when we picked the move we did. Maybe four candidate moves might be more digestible. But this is good stuff. Keep it up!
Nice lesson. Please publish more. Thanks!
Very nice video!
Not too long, but focused.
I would like more like it.
I like this video a lot too! Might also be cool to add a timer or ask people to keep track of their time spend analyzing the possition to see how much quicker a higher rated person would find the right idea.
really liked this video. really helped with thinking through the process of calculating in looking for as many threats defensively, attacking, and keeping in mind positioning. love to see more, good stuff!
I liked this video a lot! It was good exercise to try and figure out what to do in these positions. And seeing the multiple choice options gave me a better idea of what the range of plans could be in a chess position. I also liked how you explained the pros and cons of some of the choices. I definitely learned something!
When both solutions turned out to be about pushing pawns, I thought that you might be leading up to some larger point about how pawns can be used. Was it just a coincidence? I was surprised you didn't mention it. Anyway, I hope we see more like this, thank you!
I love this concept. Gives a guideline to what moves are available and to see the different moves and explaining the pros and cons.
As a 1600+ player, both of these moves came pretty naturally to me. I will admit my first instinct in the second puzzle was Re1, but considering there was no obvious follow-up (the light-square bishop was sufficiently defended and there were no pawns/knights/bishops/rooks to put pressure on the pinned piece), the correct move was obvious. I'll be honest some of those responses did seem pretty humorous to me, though. Be3 attacking the pawn which could just be defended by b6 is not a move I would have considered even after an hour of looking at the position 🤣
It was interesting. I thought the pawn would be too far in the second game. I don't think I could have converted the position anyway. Try showing the wrong moves first and explaining why they don't work instead of after the correct move. Thanks
Too far in what sense? It's only three squares away from promoting, and the first push comes with tempo. It also forces black to tie down at least one piece to that pawn, and because he has no good way to defend the f6 pawn, even without promotion his position quickly falls apart.
You have the best chess videos on the internet. Thanks.
Logic is important in chess, and here are some statements you often make that don't make sense, logically:
1. Very unique.
2.The reason is because.
3. If you had a chance to look at that, the best move is...
Great lesson, as always. I blew it on the 2nd puzzle. I thought the rook pin on the bishop looked more promising. Great stuff! I'm a better player because of you.
0:07 What the heck my classical rating is 1602 and my blitz rating is 1599
more of these please , those high elo players are dumb , what u do is mouse slip and somehow lose ur queen
Love it! But I didn't see the community post so maybe there's a better way to post future quizzes for your audience to see
skill issue
When I was looking at that second position, I could hear Irving Chernev telling me to keep pieces tied up guarding the pawn.
Great lesson Nelson, these are really good tests and it’s interesting to see if there’s a difference between the different ratings.
I'd love to see more! A good idea would be a very quick run through of the potential options before giving us a chance to think about it
I like this format a lot. Very helpful. Two positions seem to make a good length for this kind of lesson.
Excellent style of video, I didnt participate in the quiz but was able to pause and try it myself. All around enlightening and fun
This was really interesting, both to think about the position one self and then see what plans players of various strength would choose, followed by the explanation. I like it!
6:47 What will be happan if I play g4 Ng3 and e5 he can't defend horsey because of bishop and he can't take rook because I can capture queen
Oh I didn't see dxe5
I really like this type of video. I'd be interested in seeing some harder positions that separate the players out a bit more, and more exploration of some of the sidelines.
Really like the interactivity here and hope you'll do this more in the future! Also, please make a short video or something when doing community posts to increase visibility and participation :)
There should be more and more such types of videos brother! Looking forward to
Really helpful. More like this please! Thanks
This was great. I didn't see the poll in the community tab. I vaguely remembered seeing the 2nd position before finding the right move almost instantly (also opposite color bishops made move more obvious)
what about opposite colored bishops clued you onto this? The promotion square?
I really enjoyed this format. Thanks Nelson.
Love this format! Would like to see more.
Great style video! I would watch more of these.
Never in a million years would I have thought trading Q's in the first position was the best plan. I saw that but as like "that just trades queens". I was thinking castling to connect my rooks and begin the attack, maybe create a rook-rook battery to go with the queen-bishop one I have at the start of the position once my f-h pawns begin advancing.
This is quite stunning! But to be honest, as a 900 elo player, I did not see e5 potentially trap the knight at all in the first game. But I see I can push a pawn to attack a queen, and the pawn is protected well, so that must be the best move for me😅
Only way to make it better is probably to tell us about the poll in a video one to two days before. I don't see much of the community tab tbh
Love these interactive quizzes!
Cool vid! I love ones like this that are kinda interactive puzzles.
I like this style. I thought it was interesting seeing how each rating thought differently.
I like your style of teaching, I learned a lot from you. Keep up the good work, and thank you.
Need more of this.
These were the best videos you made like two years ago. I prefer them to the ricecooker nonesense nowadays.
How do you mean "ricecooker nonsense?" Maybe it's a term I've never heard before.
Love this video!!! Keep doing that!
I answered the quiz #2 omg the last option "offer a draw so I don't blunder in time pressure"😂😂
Can you addd time next time so we can make more accurate options if it’s like 10 seconds compared to 10 minutes
I enjoyed that Nelson, more please!!
I think one of the more obscure lessons here is that sometimes, a weaker but crystalised plan is better. If you know the optimal move but don't know how to bring it to completion you'll make a grave mistake at some point. Obviously, If you know the moves you're golden :)
Fabulous & so instructive , thank you ! Yes more of these type of videos please & I also did not see a Google post , don't' know how I could access them or what to look out for in the future , if anyone could help
Try to find a plan without looking at the multiple choice options first. Then see if/ where your plan is on the list. A better test of your playing strength
Great premise but I’d bet the number plugging it into a cpu to find out the answer so they appear right, is much higher than we’d like to see.
I like this style of video as well as all your other videos
and thats how Danny the d-pawn promoted to a queen cause the plan was to push to d5, trade queen, & sacrifice each other's rooks!
I don't really like the phrasing of the solution of the first one. You're not really trying to trap the knight. You're getting a pawn storm through attacking it.
Great idea! I haven't seen any anything like it. One question-did I miss anything or has is Bobby Fisherman saga remaining unfinished?
More videos like this would be enjoyable… and instructive! Thank you
I very much enjoyed this video. Excellent learning opportunities. Thank you Nelson. And, more please 😂
1200 here. I would have pushed the e5 pawn (I got it right) but I was thinking more along the lines of attacking the queen and threatening Bxh7. I wasn't thinking about trapping the knight.
Trading on d5 was the worst move imo since you are pinning your own knight. My second choice would have been Rook b1 to control the open file.
This style of video is ready helpful!
@10:13. After pawn to D5, What if black plays Queen to E6?
So the first one ended up not trapping the knight, keeping the king in the center, and immediately pawn storming the kingside… (which is the one I picked)
fun video, but a little too easy. wasn't part of the questionnaire but i got both of these right as a 1200 rapid/900 blitz
you could consider having maybe 4 positions increasing in difficulty and see how each rating range handles it. could also consider open questions to see if they can come up with the idea themselves
Love the video as always. You are the "Dora la Exploradora" of Chess, hehehe!
Asking us like if we were in the same room feels really nice! :)
Very interesting. I was good on the first exercice but not the second one. I've chosen to pin the bishop.
Great video as always. Cool to see where I stood vs highly rated players
Keep making more videos like these
With some assistance i found the checkmate moves in the last one (i'm 300)
I liked it. I paused the video before I saw the multiple choice just to see what I'd come up with and I came up with similar stuff. First one I was a bit off on but 2nd one I got right without looking. I felt good that I calculated that through and I ended up being right.
The problem with that puzzle is that the "solution" requires black to blunder... position is still equal after d5
Good little quiz i would enjoy more
i think that plan + sequence of moves is better, or just allow the user to be a little more indepth but i would get if you wouldnt implement it because it would be alot of work
As a player chronically stuck in the 400s range I can see the right answer on a multiple choice quiz but could not come up with the idea organically. 😢
That was very good, I liked it, nice and educational .
Was good, but I think could maybe be changed to "From your initial observation with no hindsight and knowledge of this list of plans, which of these on the list appeared to you as the best plan, if any", as opposed to giving them the options first which most everyone will go "Ah ha, I see the best plan now, even thought I didn't come up with it on my own". I.e., I didn't see pushing D5 until I read the list, then chose it. Which gives less variability in the elo ranges.
Innovative. It shows our reflection on the thinking process according to our positional understanding.
Great idea for a learning video
If black plays Ng3 at 7:00 I would lose the game as white. I though you can just attack the queen in between and than capture the unprotected knight. But black can sacrifice the queen. After 1. ... Ng3 2. e5 is the only drawing move Nxe2!!. Here it would be a mistake to capture the queen 3. exd6?? Nxd4+ 4. Kf2 Nxc2 5. Bxc2 and black is up one pawn and the pawn on d6 can't be defended so white is 2 pawns down.
I seen the e5 an the queen sliding over i was lost after that tho 🤣👍
As a 700 elo player I do find it hard to see what will be the best move in the end when in a tricky situation. I liked this video, because it showed many good possible moves, but why one was better then the other.
Problem with #2 for me was not really getting anywhere after d5 Qe5 Qxd5 Bc6. Checked with stockfish and it says it's even, also Qg3 was top move. #2 was not very good because there is no clear followup + it's not a winning move and many moves work. #1 was okay. Both "answers" were my intuitive 1 second responses, but I started to doubt #2 after some calculation.
d5 is the best move, the plans are great and winning for white. and your notation doesnt make sense.. blindly listening to a computer isnt always the best idea.
@@jcru102 Not sure if you are a troll or you genuinely believe you are better than Stockfish 17. Either way, you are wrong. If you can't read simple chess notation, you should probably find something else to watch. Qg3 is slighly better than d6 and I believe stockfish over some random guy who can't understand standard notation if it isn't numbered. The puzzle is not good because the position is 100% equal after a few correct moves. He even says that .. Qc3 was the critical mistake. If the solution to a puzzle requires "a critical mistake" to work, it's not a good puzzle.
@@piflah Care to give the timestamp of where your plan wouldnt work? Also in the position, if you played Qg3, what good will it do if you do not have any plan? Beep boop its 0.07 better but I dont know why.
@@jcru102 12:04 Qe6 instead of (blunder) Qc3 and it's drawn, but I calculated a different line for black where you go Qe6 directly instead of running into Bf4. Either way you can't hold onto the pawn. It was the idea I went for but I couldn't get it to work.
@@jcru102 Also I never said I would go for Qg3, it's a computer move I don't understand. My move was d6 which is one of many alternatives. Rf1 is another.
I suppose I have to go with my instinct. If I think too much I end up choosing a bad option. At least I knew how to finish the game, ignoring the threat on my rook…
Nice video idea
Great content
I got the first one right despite not seeing the full follow up, but the second one was so obvious I honestly can't figure out how anyone got it wrong. My best guess is that they thought it must've been a trick question, but even still, the idea is so straightforward and annoying for black that most people would almost certainly play it in a real game.
1st puzzle push e5 then try to trap black's knight
Channel? Community tab? Am I missing something ?
The one takeaway for me from this video is that there are a lot of 800 ELO players just as clever as 1600+ players.
I'm a bit unnerved by that.
I hover around 600 and can never seem to get much beyond that rating. 😂
algorithm ftw because this is very cool
Next quiz is kind of easy and it only has one position
Great video
what if queen goes to e6?
yep.
Bro the title cut off and thought i was getting a different video. 😅😅😅😅
Hey, the only reason I wouldnt choose "e5 then trap the knight" is because I saw the knight wouldnt be trapped. Be honest next time please.
How did I miss this quiz?
😊
do more
I'll be honest, I am so bad at chess. Although I settled on the best move in position 2, I did not see the correct analysis at all. I guess at my level you sometimes fluke the correct move out of general principle even though you analyse some inferior line black would play because your still are so ordinary at the game. I picked up the Queen had to stay guarding the F6 pawn but looked at QF7 rather than the much better move QE5. As for the final rook exchange necessary to promote the pawn, probably wouldn't see this in a month of Sundays. Chess is such a hard game for us mere humans 😂.
As a 2200, I am just relieved I got them correct 😅
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Perfect !!
Awesome video... Make it better by making me better 😂😂
Great video. Only criticism I have is that the question were too easy.
gold.