The most important guy from a musical perspective were neither Lou, David, Iggy, Andy, Brian, Bob or Jim. In fact it was John - John Cale that is. He not only produced her seminal albums The Marble Index, Desertshore and The End, but also arranged them, which means he composed and played all other instruments apart from Nico's harmonium. The genius not only behind Nico's triology, but also behind The Velvets then groundbreaking sound. Together Nico and Cale laid the fundament of what was later to become Goth.
Spot on. Lou was out for Lou. Cale was the producer engineer who "heard" her sounds, empathically. Lou wanted to pop rock underneath the shades, Cale steered the avant for a long time.
Great interview with Billy....Knew this crew....good tale...~ Billy passed & it's great seeing him in his true character....please post if there is more of this ....Thanks -
Saw her at the Whiskey in LA 1979. Good concert. She brought out old pal Tim Harden for a couple of songs. When she died at Ibiza years later it was very sad. I still love "The Marble Index".
Very good. I know the documentaries from which these interviews & material come from... the story about Nico missing her spot at the Stones In The Park gig in memory of Brian Jones is typical of her.. a real shame as it would have given her exposure she badly needed (her records - although unique, very original & great - didn't sell much at all).. I knew her and she was always late... : ) Thanks for posting this
After reading and listening to what her peers said about her, she must have been a lovely person. After all, the famous male musicians she had relationships with spoke of her rather emotionally. Iggy Pop said it was easy to love her because she was the most lost woman post VU that he had ever seen. Beautiful, but her voice sounds a lot like it's been put through a machine that camouflages a person's identity. I will keep looking though.
Nico played in Paris in Rex Club in 1986. I interviewed her for my fanzine. And she considered me like the other journalists. She was a beautiful soul.
This interview gives the wrong impression Nico had lived in New York in the late 50s and studied acting with Lee Strasberg as well as modelling there. This sort of suggests she came to New York from Europe for the first time to meet Andy Warhol about movie work as she an actress. She was also already recording music. She released a single backed by Brian Jones and Jimmy Page in 1965. Nico says Bob Dylan introduced her to Andy Warhol. I will say however that I have noticed that sometimes the people themselves misremember or simply tell a more glamorous version of events. So just because Nico herself says something happened that way doesn't make it necessarily true. Nico always fascinated me as I first heard her as a singer with the Velvet Underground and then when I fell in love with Fellini's early movies there she was which confused me. They seemed to be two such separate worlds, Italian cinema filmed in Rome a world of glamour and beautiful people and New York a seedy seeming world of junkies. Then strangely she turned up near to where I grew up in Northern England which has neither the glamour of Rome or New York and is just dirty old industrial towns. It was weird that she connected two such glamourous worlds I dreamed of and also my own stagnant bland industrial wasteland world from which I wanted to escape. Interview with Nico: th-cam.com/video/JAs0h8_n0g8/w-d-xo.html Nicos 1965 single: th-cam.com/video/PINZNB6knaA/w-d-xo.html
I saw Nico perform on stage, opening for John Cale at the Cellar Door, Washington DC in 1979...she cried and said "I don't have to OPEN for John Cale" it was quite dramatic...
Hi Movie Girl, I was at that same Nico concert at the Bayou back in 1979 ... what a night, eh? I would love to discuss it with you some time - I have some information about what she did after the concert (including getting physically thrown out of the Bayou by the Bayou manager)that is really interesting. I think it would be a great story. Contact me if possible.
Hi Rob, possibly, I am getting my venues confused although they were both in Georgetown. Maybe they played both, though at different times? In any event, I saw them play two nights in a row. I'll try to figure out how to get in touch.
She comes across to me as a featured chanteuse on those records. It's a lovely thing. It seems not have been heavily engineered -- more of a biomorphic development. Sorry, about "biomorphic." There's got to be a less pretentious word for what I mean.
Overrated, underrated, we don't care. Whether she wanted or not, she became an icon. But she was just a suffering human being. I met her too since I organised a gig in my hometown in France. I will never forget.
She performed in Melbourne Australia in 1986-87, I don't remember the year exactly. the audience was garrulous and inattentive. at one point she stopped singing and told the audience to be quiet, they didn't care..Melbourne people are unique, like New Yorkers, especially the upper middle class silver spoon fed south eaStern suburban aNglo-SaxonS,,did i forget to prooooof read for orthographic, punctuation and capitals, they are prescribed rules of writing or are they not?
Everybody analyzes Nico, she was an icon, she wasn't, she was just a model no talent a junky. The fact is that she had some great songs still relevant today and she was stunning. A very unique and ahead of her time 60s figure
Strange enough ,she did not die from drugs.she had quit with it. she was on a methadone cure.She died by falling off her bike in a hot day in Ibiza. had traumatic brain concussion,injury and died the same day at the hospital.
I saw her on stage opening for John Cale at the Cellar Door, Washington DC in 1979...she cried and said "I don't have to OPEN for John Cale" it was quite dramatic...
@@phantompanther648 No, I know it's not Danny Fields...I thought it could be Danny Sugarman judging by facial features, but hes been dead for a while, and probably never looked this old.
Yes, Ari, he had a sad tragic life. There are videos of him at the Factory as a toddler. She being a gypsy, left him with his grand parents and later introduced her son to heroin. They were addicts together😔 much later they got clean but she tragically died after falling off a bike. Ari never recovered from her death. Very sad😔
She played an important role in influencing them musically and artistically. Especially Iggy Pop when they went out. But Andy Warhol, Cale, and Reed were the big players in VU. Bowie, Lou, and Iggy all fed into each other and learnt from each other as the 70s went on. Iggy with proto-punk, Lou and Bowie with glam rock. Then Bowie just kept evolving. Bowie for me was by far the superior artist, he has turned out the best most albums, was super relevant from the 70s and still in the 80s. Nico is talented but not in the same league as Bowie/Lou/Iggy.
@@ianjacka469 I was talking about her solo career, she represents avant garde in the most pure sense. So thats why is important, the others ones are worldwide famous and important too but she is on the underground movement.
...overrated - really??? what a great output she had - we all would be proud to have that! one of the really few cult figure coming out of germany - unique and beloved by so many desperate and lost people...
How was she "overrated?" She struggled to make a living as a solo artist despite constant touring. Her records sold very poorly. So only a small number of people thought highly of her music. He was only playing very small venues. To be honest she could probably have made more money from touring theatres telling the stories from her life. This is someone that worked with Fellini on his Oscar-winning masterpiece La Dolce Vita directly with Marcello Mastroianni. She was dating Brian Jones when he died and so was at the heart of "swinging London" and she recorded with Brian Jones and Jimmy Hendrix prior to being with the Velvet Underground. She then worked closely with Andy Warhol and was at the heart of the New York scene when the Factory at its peak. That is a hell of a life to have been around and worked with so many towering figures that shaped modern culture. They made a bloody movie about Edie Sedgwick whose only claim to fame was being around the Andy Warhol's Factory.
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I spent an afternoon with her at a friends apartment in the Village..1965 I think it was. She was sweet.
I know this is an older comment but I would love to knoe the story behind this
@@Wood3narms Its a very long story with a lot of detail.
@@BMWLDRider write it here
@@winstonbluecentos I will when I have some time.
Yes please
The most important guy from a musical perspective were neither Lou, David, Iggy, Andy, Brian, Bob or Jim. In fact it was John - John Cale that is. He not only produced her seminal albums The Marble Index, Desertshore and The End, but also arranged them, which means he composed and played all other instruments apart from Nico's harmonium. The genius not only behind Nico's triology, but also behind The Velvets then groundbreaking sound. Together Nico and Cale laid the fundament of what was later to become Goth.
Spot on. Lou was out for Lou. Cale was the producer engineer who "heard" her sounds, empathically. Lou wanted to pop rock underneath the shades, Cale steered the avant for a long time.
Friar hermit stumbles over, the Frozen Borderline..
Great interview with Billy....Knew this crew....good tale...~ Billy passed & it's great seeing him in his true character....please post if there is more of this ....Thanks -
Saw her at the Whiskey in LA 1979. Good concert. She brought out old pal Tim Harden for a couple of songs. When she died at Ibiza years later it was very sad. I still love "The Marble Index".
jab3785 when your memory is fading and your will is waning , can I buy all your memories. I can wait , my money is good .
You lucky fuck
Sounds messy...
Very good. I know the documentaries from which these interviews & material come from... the story about Nico missing her spot at the Stones In The Park gig in memory of Brian Jones is typical of her.. a real shame as it would have given her exposure she badly needed (her records - although unique, very original & great - didn't sell much at all).. I knew her and she was always late... : )
Thanks for posting this
Wish I could have seen her in concert and met her so beautiful, talented and poetic ♥
Excellent analysis of Nico and her stoop to conquer style.
I LOVED HER!!!
After reading and listening to what her peers said about her, she must have been a lovely person. After all, the famous male musicians she had relationships with spoke of her rather emotionally. Iggy Pop said it was easy to love her because she was the most lost woman post VU that he had ever seen. Beautiful, but her voice sounds a lot like it's been put through a machine that camouflages a person's identity. I will keep looking though.
Billy has a great talent of storytelling.
Beautiful.... friend of mine , from a certain clique in Manchester knew her . A sad beautiful woman....... truly........
Fried of mine from Bolton never met her, though he patronized every club and pub at the time, and effed everything available.
ThankYouOh so very much----Ayers,Cale,Eno,Nico &Reed, RIP!play onward w ALEX & Capt!BEEFHEART
Nico played in Paris in Rex Club in 1986. I interviewed her for my fanzine. And she considered me like the other journalists. She was a beautiful soul.
can you send me the interview if you still have it? i would really love to see it🥲🖤
This interview gives the wrong impression Nico had lived in New York in the late 50s and studied acting with Lee Strasberg as well as modelling there. This sort of suggests she came to New York from Europe for the first time to meet Andy Warhol about movie work as she an actress. She was also already recording music. She released a single backed by Brian Jones and Jimmy Page in 1965.
Nico says Bob Dylan introduced her to Andy Warhol.
I will say however that I have noticed that sometimes the people themselves misremember or simply tell a more glamorous version of events. So just because Nico herself says something happened that way doesn't make it necessarily true.
Nico always fascinated me as I first heard her as a singer with the Velvet Underground and then when I fell in love with Fellini's early movies there she was which confused me. They seemed to be two such separate worlds, Italian cinema filmed in Rome a world of glamour and beautiful people and New York a seedy seeming world of junkies.
Then strangely she turned up near to where I grew up in Northern England which has neither the glamour of Rome or New York and is just dirty old industrial towns. It was weird that she connected two such glamourous worlds I dreamed of and also my own stagnant bland industrial wasteland world from which I wanted to escape.
Interview with Nico: th-cam.com/video/JAs0h8_n0g8/w-d-xo.html
Nicos 1965 single:
th-cam.com/video/PINZNB6knaA/w-d-xo.html
I saw Nico perform on stage, opening for John Cale at the Cellar Door, Washington DC in 1979...she cried and said "I don't have to OPEN for John Cale" it was quite dramatic...
Hi Movie Girl, I was at that same Nico concert at the Bayou back in 1979 ... what a night, eh? I would love to discuss it with you some time - I have some information about what she did after the concert (including getting physically thrown out of the Bayou by the Bayou manager)that is really interesting. I think it would be a great story. Contact me if possible.
Hi Rob, possibly, I am getting my venues confused although they were both in Georgetown. Maybe they played both, though at different times? In any event, I saw them play two nights in a row. I'll try to figure out how to get in touch.
Interesting! Any more info from that night?
Flashback city!
Nico, Lou, Bowie, Andy etc. etc....Billy Name is the one you'd actually enjoy spending time with I imagine.
c'est ca des artistes bowie & Reed repose en paix Iggy lui continue de jouer du rock c'est maintenant ca drogue
My God this guy can talk
oh dear !!!
"Factory" the woman eater.
Jackson browne mad crushed on her.
Could anyone tell me what this is taken from?
the internet
She comes across to me as a featured chanteuse on those records. It's a lovely thing. It seems not have been heavily engineered -- more of a biomorphic development. Sorry, about "biomorphic." There's got to be a less pretentious word for what I mean.
Nico aka christine pfaff was a beautiful model before the smack years(late 70s till her death)....imo
Overrated, underrated, we don't care. Whether she wanted or not, she became an icon. But she was just a suffering human being. I met her too since I organised a gig in my hometown in France. I will never forget.
Yes she was an icon, and had issues but great voice, very beautiful woman.
what town was that?
HYDRA my love
I love how Americans says ' chanteuse ' - Shan - tooos '
Mundanity? What a great word.
She was the village bicycle it sounds like to me
Funny what the guy says: isn't there anything more mundane than changing partners ;-)
Oli Weg ibiza is her shrine
Exploited it seems
How do you even put Nico in that list with a straight face?
She was a flirt.
Wait a second .,…….
Jackson Browne & Dylan wrote songs for Nico?
I’ll Keep It With Mine……..,,,,… .. ….. 🪭
She performed in Melbourne Australia in 1986-87, I don't remember the year exactly. the audience was garrulous and inattentive. at one point she stopped singing and told the audience to be quiet, they didn't care..Melbourne people are unique, like New Yorkers, especially the upper middle class silver spoon fed south eaStern suburban aNglo-SaxonS,,did i forget to prooooof read for orthographic, punctuation and capitals, they are prescribed rules of writing or are they not?
I never heard of her.
Ihr seid doch krank mit euer dreggss werbung😅😅😅
Everybody analyzes Nico, she was an icon, she wasn't, she was just a model no talent a junky. The fact is that she had some great songs still relevant today and she was stunning. A very unique and ahead of her time 60s figure
Thank You
Femme fatale: (The cat) "has a hieratic duality...(it) fuses the Gorgon eye of appetite to the detached Apollonian eye of contemplation".
Nico is such a needy person and will exhaust each and everyone...god help them
Nick died in 1988. Do your research. They were all needy drug addicts that's what happens when you get hooked on heavy drugs.
Nico
Strange enough ,she did not
die from drugs.she had quit with it. she was on a methadone cure.She died by falling off her bike in a hot day in Ibiza. had traumatic brain concussion,injury and died the same day at the hospital.
I saw her on stage opening for John Cale at the Cellar Door, Washington DC in 1979...she cried and said "I don't have to OPEN for John Cale" it was quite dramatic...
Who is this talking about Nico...is that Danny Sugarman??
Nop
He means Danny Fields’s
@@phantompanther648 No, I know it's not Danny Fields...I thought it could be Danny Sugarman judging by facial features, but hes been dead for a while, and probably never looked this old.
Did she ever have a child? a girl?
Elisabeth. Devyt she has a son name Ari
Yes, Ari, he had a sad tragic life. There are videos of him at the Factory as a toddler. She being a gypsy, left him with his grand parents and later introduced her son to heroin. They were addicts together😔 much later they got clean but she tragically died after falling off a bike. Ari never recovered from her death. Very sad😔
@@yep3489 the father seems to be Alan Delon
Nico were same or even more important for music than bowie, Lou and iggy
No she really wasn't.
@@annwhite2346 yes she is. but you have to pay attention to her music. Is something that nobody have done before.
She played an important role in influencing them musically and artistically. Especially Iggy Pop when they went out. But Andy Warhol, Cale, and Reed were the big players in VU. Bowie, Lou, and Iggy all fed into each other and learnt from each other as the 70s went on. Iggy with proto-punk, Lou and Bowie with glam rock. Then Bowie just kept evolving. Bowie for me was by far the superior artist, he has turned out the best most albums, was super relevant from the 70s and still in the 80s. Nico is talented but not in the same league as Bowie/Lou/Iggy.
@@ianjacka469 I was talking about her solo career, she represents avant garde in the most pure sense. So thats why is important, the others ones are worldwide famous and important too but she is on the underground movement.
bowie? naw
She was a chick with nice hair ... that's the extent of the talent ...
Clearly, you've never listened to any of the albums she wrote herself- ground breaking.
#UnpopularOpinion --Nico is/was sooo very overrated.
I can't help but strongly disagree
I think overrated and underrated are both applicable to Nico.
...overrated - really??? what a great output she had - we all would be proud to have that!
one of the really few cult figure coming out of germany - unique and beloved by so many desperate and lost people...
How was she "overrated?" She struggled to make a living as a solo artist despite constant touring. Her records sold very poorly. So only a small number of people thought highly of her music. He was only playing very small venues.
To be honest she could probably have made more money from touring theatres telling the stories from her life.
This is someone that worked with Fellini on his Oscar-winning masterpiece La Dolce Vita directly with Marcello Mastroianni. She was dating Brian Jones when he died and so was at the heart of "swinging London" and she recorded with Brian Jones and Jimmy Hendrix prior to being with the Velvet Underground. She then worked closely with Andy Warhol and was at the heart of the New York scene when the Factory at its peak.
That is a hell of a life to have been around and worked with so many towering figures that shaped modern culture.
They made a bloody movie about Edie Sedgwick whose only claim to fame was being around the Andy Warhol's Factory.