HOW TO REMOVE AND REPLACE INNER & OUTER TIE RODS - Envoy/Trailblazer
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- How to Remove and Replace Inner & Outer Tie Rods - Envoy/Trailblazer. In this video I show how I removed and replaced my inner and outer tie rods on my 2004 GMC Envoy. This also applies to Chevy Trailblazers.
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Very good job with this video. Showing the steps and torque values in the book. Taking it slow and all of that man congrats on doing good what many others have massacred. Will recommend this video! 👍🏾
Thank you, I appreciate your support. I'm glad the video is helpful to you.
Thanks for taking the time to show us how you did it. I really appreciate it! I'm about to tackle the same job on an '04 Envoy
You're welcome! Good luck with your truck.
Bout to do the same on my 05 blazer
Hello Kevin Nadeau,
Thank you for posting this video. Just ordered inner and outer tie-rods for my 07 GMT-360.
I have growling sounds that made me chase wheel bearings, but have excessive slop when doing wheel test play and it is not good, especially on vehicle front right!
Cheers!
You’re video is awesome. Waiting for spring in Michigan so I can do this to my 04 trailblazer! Thank you
Thank you👍
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@@toneybatts1972
Cheers from MI.....just got the parts. As a rust belt car, looking forward to all the challenges....at least Spring is coming (posted April 2022)
Great video. Thanks for the help!
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Fantastic video, thanks for showing all the steps. Now I can gather the necessary tools BEFORE I start the job, a rare occasion.
You're welcome! Good luck with your project.
@@KevinNadeau job went smoothly, drives super tight now!
@@KevinNadeau I have a 02 what size treat is that 16mm or 14mm
@@JoseA-kl2kq I don't remember off the top of my head.
@@KevinNadeau ok thanks
Thanks for your video 👍🏾
Hi Kevin Nadeu -- GREAT VIDEO got a 2006 Trailblazer 4x4 one fixin to do mine as well as preventive maintenance. Just put new struts on and will check out the NAPA parts you listed as well.
Great video. Another nice thing about scheduling an alignment is that you can drive the Corvette to work that day!
Eric Pfiffner Very true! Just ss long as it's not raining.
Great video, thank you
I'm glad the video helped. Thanks for watching 👍
Good teacher
Good video thanks.
This also applies to the Oldsmobile Bravada. There could be some differences in parts or bolt sizes, but in general is the same, if not exactly the same.
Those clamps are actually called OETIKER clamps. Sometimes called "one time use" clamps. They can not be reused. Someone could order a replacement online, use a worm clamp (but just tight enough to seal, but let bellows move), which should work fine or use a zip tie. But in my area of NE OH those zip ties will eventually give out or get really brittle. I can't say if will take 1, 2 or 3 years, but the road salt, snow, cold will take a toll.
Trying to get OEM "OETIKER" clamps. Worried about worm-gear clamps being off balance on rotating assembly. Will zip-tie before going to worm-gear.
EDIT: OOPS! Was thinking about axles. No rotating mass on the rack boots.
My thoughts.
Loved the video and works on all GMT360: Trailblazer, Envoy, Bravada, Rainier, 9-7x (Saab), and Ascender (Isuzu)
Great video and well detailed. Still relevant in 2022.
Do you remember how bad out of alignment was the vehicle after the replacement?
Thank you👍 I don't remember the alignment being too bad after I replaced the tie rods.
Doing mine now.. thanks!
Hope everything is easy going for you 👍
@@KevinNadeau worked out perfect!👍
Thanks a lot
You're welcome. Thanks for watching.
I’m not sure why this video pops up first in Google for ‘How to replace inner tie rod’ when this guy is pretty much winging it through the job with pipe wrenches. I’d like to learn the right way to do this job.
Nice
Hi .....thanks for your video,I just replace the tide rod in my 2003 envoy xl...and in your video at 8:04 the inner tide rod shows that is wrapped in some type of plastic gasket or something like that....mine looks the same....do you know if that is because they are the original tide rods and never have been replaced? The new ones they don’t have that plastic.....thanks
I think that is some sort of dust protector. Just slide it back into the rack and pinion and then after you put the new tie rod on you can put it back in place. Look at 11:21 where it's back in place on the new tie rod. Hope that helps.
the socket for sure is a 35 mm? bought one and it doesnt fit the removal kit which for sure is the same as what you got, has a lot of play too, perhaps its because i bought 12 point instead of 6 point but not sure since i can move it around alot
I wish you would have shown torquing the inner tie rod. You are putting 74 ft/lbs on the rod inside the rack. What keeps that from spinning or putting undo rotational force on the rod and the gears that move the rack & pinion from side to side? Are there flats on the rod that the inner tie rods thread into?
Sorry about that. It wasn't too eventful when I torqued down the inner tie rod. From memory, I think I just used crescent wrench and applied roughly the right amount of torque. Don't forget the thread lock. No flats on the female side. I don't recall anything spinning/twisting in the rack & pinion.
What side treat are those
Man, I watched your videos because I bought a 2005 Envoy for my kid. The oil pressure was dropping when we stopped. I changed the oil pressure switch and it's been good for 2 weeks. Now I have to fix the 4 wheel drive. Apparently there's something wrong with the seal on the front passenger side tire.
I mean... In that area. With the seal. I have no idea, really.
I'm glad the videos helped you. What symptoms are you experiencing with the 4x4? Enjoy the Envoy.
Kevin Nadeu, I rented that exact same inner tie rod tool kit, Kit #26, from Advance Auto and it doesn't fit the original or replacement tie rods. The opening to the socket that's supposed to fit over the shaft of the tie rod won't because it isn't big enough. I was confident after watching this video that the tool would work but now that it doesn't I'd like to know why.
I believe the part I'm trying to remove is the factory one and I'm using Moog replacement parts. Moog's website says the part fits every year of every model in this class so our parts should be identical.
Anything you can tell me about your parts would be appreciated.
I'm going to rent O'Reilly's Kit #67178 which is a different design. I didn't get initially because this looks heavier duty.
If I remember right, the tool from Advance Auto wasn't exactly a perfect fit, but I was able to make it work. I hope O'Reilly's version works better for you.
I used Napa premium inner and outer tie rods on my truck and they work great.
kit 85 works much better, has an adapter that fits exactly, just a tiny bit tricky to keep the adapter on but still got my inner rod off in about 2 minutes
Good job, can you send me the manual or where is it?
Hi Kevin, my tire is wiggles like yours. At first I thought it was the wheel bearing hub, replaced it, but the wheel is still humming. Would bad tie rods cause that noise as well?
I guess its possible, or the noise could be from something else in the drive train.
Kevin Nadeau what I didn’t realize is when you explain that when the weight load shifts the noise goes away. For example when driving and I go right a little the noise goes away so I assumed the issue was with the drivers side hub, but according to you the passengers side is the one with the issue. So looks like I might’ve replaced the wrong hub! 😒
I would change them as a pair. Just my preference though. The wheel hubs i used were inexpensive enough for me to justify it.
I just replaced my outer tie rod on our Trailblazer. vehicle drives better now, but I still get a positive rocker test when gripping the wheel from the sides. maybe I need to do inner rods too, or something else?
I probably would have done the inners too while you were in there. Have someone help you move the tire and look to see where the play is coming from. Good luck!
thanks. do you know if there is a big difference in quality between the delco 45A0888 and their 26100288 inner rods? big difference in price...I don't want to skimp if the less expensive one might fail but I don't want to spend $$ if I don't have to either....classic car part dilemma
@@michaelengle9062 Honestly, I do not know. One is about twice the price of the other, and I'm sure there is a reason for that. But for me, there comes a point of diminishing returns when the cost difference of replacement parts is so drastic.
@@KevinNadeau finally looked at the right spot on the truck...my bushings on the lower control arm to frame mount are garbage. now to figure out how to either get the bushings out or replace the bracket with as little total disassembly as possible.
Hey you make it look easy, but my question is why do you remove the wheel bearring? I've seen other videos where they don't remove it, will it be to have more space?
I need to change them to my 2004 chevy trailblazer ext, is it the same procedure?
@@ktmeman The procedure should be the same👍
It's not that bad of a job, you got this. I was replacing the wheel bearing hubs at the same time, that's why I took them off.
@@KevinNadeau OK thank you
Could you tell me what manual you are using.
Thanks for subscribing! I use the service manuals like these diyrepairmanuals.com/product/2004-gmc-envoy-service-manual/?gclid=Cj0KCQiAvqDiBRDAARIsADWh5TdDuXBDSXJ1_Ma5xaDb2M7QGMERjDKOUJVfPuv-06N7C8GB3wRBqnMaAltMEALw_wcB
Great video. ....what manual is that? Looked alot better than the haynes
Ken Oger Thanks. It's the 3-volume service manual. www.faxonautoliterature.com/2004-Rainier-Trailblazer-Envoy-Bravada-Repair-Shop-Manual-Original-3-Volume-Set-P21364.aspx
@@KevinNadeau thanks a lot I'll definitely be checking those out for my 03 . A lot of suspension work to do here in the northeast .
Be careful with the inner tie rods you can do damage to the pinion gear or knock the preload out of alignment on the rack I have unfortunately and magically done both. You need to put a pipe wrench behind the inner tie rod on the steering rack and secure it. I am hoping I can adjust mine back into spec as the backlash on the gear is getting worse by the day.
Didnt see it but did you get the outer tie rod loose on passenger side? Looks like u did driver side and called it done . .
Yes eventually I did. Had to take extreme measures to get it out (i.e. blow torch and ban saw).
@@KevinNadeau go figure . . Have heated mine and everything and wont budge on my 2006. . Heated and soaked with penetrating fluid . . Might have to sit and then take to a shop to fight with it . .
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What's the difference between 16mm treads and 14mm how do you know which to buy?
Which part are you referring to?
@@KevinNadeau inner & out tire rods
@@teamvoltagebasketball6431 Be sure to confirm your year/make/model with who ever you are buying the parts from 👍
2002 model has the 14mm bolts 03-09 has 16mm bolts
I forgot to put locktite on one side u think it will be ok
It might be ok, but if it was me I would put the thread lock on.
I just did my moms suv and they came out easily on her mariner it’s had about 2000 miles put on them now actually the whole suspension I redid I’m finishing up my trailblazer now and I just thought shit I never put any on I have to finish the driver side and am now debating if I should even bother or go back and take that one off and do it I figure if that things gonna get loose or t getting loose regardless
What is that plastic thing called behind the inner tire rod my is cracked
According to my shop manual it is a shock dampener.
@@KevinNadeau do you happen to have a link I can’t find it no where, Autozone and o’Reillys don’t know that name to find it on there computer.
@@angelf9800 I'm sorry I don't. I checked on GM Parts Direct and didn't see it there. You could try a dealership or junk yard.
@@KevinNadeau thanks for responding back going to the junkyard tomorrow.
@14:18 Don't turn the ball joint, you'll ruin it. Nice video.
Thank you👍
Can please what setup you used to removed the inner tire rod, I can’t really tell from the video
I have a second video showing tie rod removal too. Maybe that has what you're looking for.
I did this repair just last night, got the Powerbuilt kit #85 from autozone (rental) and it worked very easily.
man that car underneath looks spotless. You must live in the dessert or something because there is absolutely no rust down there.. Where im from.. these cars turn into rust buckets after 50,000 miles
Thank you. I'm in North Carolina👍
What book is that? Haynes?
No its the service manual.
What book do you have?
It's the shop manual
@@KevinNadeau I have the Haynes and it sucks. Doesn't help at all. That is why I watch youtube videos like yours.
Can you share where you got your book?@@KevinNadeau
@@wesleyhedges2231 my dad actually got it for me as a gift when I bought my Envoy. I've looked a couple places (i.e. interwebs) and they can be found, but are relatively expensive. If you need a complete service manual, check out eManualOnline. I have partnered with them and have a discount code you can use to same some money. Their are actually a lot cheaper than buying the manual I have, and have the same info. shrsl.com/44zde Discount Code "KEVIN22" to save 22%.
Looked like a loose wheel bearing.
Who even cares what brand or part number or the parts included. Just show what tools are needed and how to get it off and back on.