An Honest Review on the SAROO Flashcart ODE Sega Saturn | Should you buy one?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 มิ.ย. 2024
- The Saroo is the next best thing to come out yet to play your Sega Saturn games discless! Should you buy one? Let me tell you all about it, in this video!
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I absolutely love mine! Just got it and I'm in the process of putting more games onto my micro SD for it. I'm currently at 113 games but there will be way more added tonight. Nice video, dude! Subscribed!
Thanks man, have fun with it! Still need to make a newer video with the new updates. Stay tuned!
Wow. Things move so fast in retro gaming. Ive been looking for a Saturn ODE but didnt want to pay the prices of those currently available. This changes the game! AT LAST!!!
Go get it 😁
Wow thank you i had no idea such thing existed. This video came up in my feed yesterday and now I'm considering Saroo instead of Satiator.
You should! Much cheaper and faster. You can check the videos from the developer on his Twitter feed.
There are many people outdated, retro game store KK DIY sold the PCB version. 1.36 with the FPGA 02, this update was undoubtedly a programmer error who ended up accidentally putting this FPGA in place of the FPGA 03, but what no one knew was that Saroo from the retro games store KK DIY on the FPGA 02 was running metal Slug while the Saroo from the retro game paradise store only started running metal Slug on the FPGA 04, in addition the Saroo from the kk DIY retro game store is much more finished, I also bought it with the FPGA 02 and used a USB blaster to update and today I updated via SD card and so far I'm enjoying it a lot without any defects, the detail is that Saroo doesn't break, it's just Brick so this can be resolved by going back to the old FPGA with the USB blaster and then via SD card, Saroo is doing very well and both stores are now very reliable, KK DIY retro game store and retro game paradise.
Thank you for the added info. Still need to make an update video about the Saroo.
Bought mine today and just seen your video now really hyped up.
Haha! Just wait and see how cool it is 😁
Recently got the hdmi saturn adapter that segalord x reviewed last year. Do you run your saturn through hdmi?
No i run all my retro consoles trough a Sony Trinitron CRT. All with RGB Scart.
I have been gone awhile. I'm glad to still see you're making videos. Snatcher is the only reason I wanted a Saturn.
Still here 😄
Snatcher is best played on the Mega CD though. Theres no English patch for the Saturn version and that version is also censored in some places.
@fistbumpbros I played a ROM on PC , and those light gun sections were difficult with a keyboard
Haha, yea. But the shooting sections in Snatcher are easier then Policenauts though with a joystick.
Thanks for this great review. I have the Retro Game Paradise SAROO 1.32F and it is getting better and better. I managed to understand how to run it with the Brazilian channel Canal Maddrugamers who does alot of video updates of SAROO new firmware. Alot of games run flawlessly but some very known as Virtua Fighter or Daytona have issues for the moment. But still it is an awesome buy !!
Yes I'm very happy with it as well. It seems that the Saroo is a hot seller in Brazil right?
The KK Saroo previously shipped with FGPA02 which cannot be updated by software. It won't brick, it just won't update. It is possible to update via hardware means using a Altera USB blaster interfacing with the card's JTAG interface or flashing directly to the eeprom chip with a CH341A programmer. From FGPA04 onwards, this supported firmware updates via SD-card. Retroparadise store sold their Saroo's from FGPA04...so people can update via SD. The latest FGPA version released is now 05. Both KK DIY and Retro Paradise now sells with FGPA05 and updatable via SD card...so this is now a non issue. The latest firmware sorts games in alphabetical order.
Thanks for the added info! I was reading into the whole thing and people were complaining about it being bricked and such.
@@fistbumpbros it may brick if you inadvertently update the MCU firmware with the wrong FGPA version. (firmware has FGPA and MCU component). In that case, you can only restore by updating FGPA via hardware methods or restore the correct MCU firmware by using a stlink programmer. Certainly not user friendly, but then again this is an open source project that's still in development, and is only a issue if you had bought this from KK in the past.
Ah so just buyers updating the cart with the wrong updates. Got it. Thanks again for this info.
Thanks for the info! Just bought mine from KK DIY. They (at least claim to) have updated to FPGA 5 in their page, now, so I'll try to update it.
There are many people outdated, retro game store KK DIY sold the PCB version. 1.36 with the FPGA 02, this update was undoubtedly a programmer error who ended up accidentally putting this FPGA in place of the FPGA 03, but what no one knew was that Saroo from the retro games store KK DIY on the FPGA 02 was running metal Slug while the Saroo from the retro game paradise store only started running metal Slug on the FPGA 04, in addition the Saroo from the kk DIY retro game store is much more finished, I also bought it with the FPGA 02 and used a USB blaster to update and today I updated via SD card and so far I'm enjoying it a lot without any defects, the detail is that Saroo doesn't break, it's just Brick so this can be resolved by going back to the old FPGA with the USB blaster and then via SD card, Saroo is doing very well and both stores are now very reliable, KK DIY retro game store and retro game paradise.
Hello, I'm new to your channel. Great video. I look forward to see more of your videos. Great video That's museum on the saroo motivated to get one. Keep up the great work
Thank you for the compliment! New video coming soon 😁
I'm really happy with my Satiator so far. I wanted a device that just worked without fiddling, and that's what I got.
Absolutely, but thats what the Saroo also does!
thanks this is my dream, and best solution i only have 1 game on my saturn so i wanna experience all the games i used to own as a kid for a decent price
It's truly one of the best options. I never regretted buying the Saroo. Games run flawless.
Finally someone looks into the Saroo. I've been hesitant on buying one since there has been so little documentation on this.
My main reason for wanting one is that I don't need to mod my disc player and I can use my MPEG card (for the few games that supports it). Will that Lunar Silverstar game work if you have the MPEG card?
I see no reason why it should't work. Only thing the Saroo does is act as an ODE, so the MPEG card is just an addon like it normally does.
@@fistbumpbros ok thanks. Whats up with the different pricings on the Aliexpress site? He charge different money depending on which case colour you choose? thats crazy.
Have you tried the new firmware which was released 3 days ago? Did any of the games that didnt work earlier work now with the latest firmware?
I think its harder to produce a clear case, that's why it's more expensive. I havent tried it yet (wasnt even aware) but ill give it a go asap.
Just got mine with the 64 gb sd and it’s awesome! Is there a way to go back to the game select screen from in game or do you have to reset the system every time?
I havent installed the latest update yet, but you have to reset the console each time.
Cool review. A quick question about that SD2SNES Rev-x at the beginning of the video if you don't mind. I know that it can support enhancement chips like the FX, SA-1, DSP, etc. It can also do MSU-1 enhancement. I was wondering if it can do SA-1 and MSU-1 at the same time like the FXPak Pro? Thanks.
Which game uses SA-1 and MSU-1 at the same time?
@@fistbumpbros From the Snes MSU-1 Archive. Contra 3, Gradius 3, and Super R-Type. These combined Vitor Vilela's SA-1 Hack with MSU-1. When I play on my slightly older SD2SNES from Aliexpress, it will disable the MSU-1 enhancement when SA-1 is in use. I was wondering if you can try these games on yours and see if SA-1 and MSU-1 can work at the same time. Mine is too old i think.
Ill let you know asap when I have the time! 👌
@@fistbumpbros lol?
It is indeed Open Source and was not licensed to anyone. Chinese sellers simply decided to release the product as is, and in response to the new interest the OG Dev decided to start working on the project again. It still needs quite a bit of work & is definitely not flawless. A good many games have bugs or don't work at all right now.
The dev is pretty fast when it comes to updates. There have been quite a few since this video, i havent been able to produce an update video however.
I have the Rhea, the Satiator and the Saroo. The Rhea have access to the action replay ( which is impossible for the Saroo and a bit dangerous with the Satiator because you have to start the game without the cartridge and then reset the game and insert the action replay at that moment which can corrupt all your save files on it !). For the loading time there is no doubt that the Saroo is the king. For 1mb and 4mb all can use it but the Saroo has it built in, so advantage here. Now the most important, the compatibility and that’s where disappointment comes. The Saroo has a lot of games who can’t even start ( I have test many games and some of my favorite can boot like Shadow of the tusk, Duke Nukem 3d, Sorvice, ….)
I am going to make a video about those 3 devices on my channel soon.
I have now about 86 games that start. I'm fine for the moment. Also, the cart is still in development. The creator can fix this with FW updates, so no biggie there. I have never used an Action Replay in my life, so that's no biggie for me 😄
@@fistbumpbros the action replay is great once you have already finished a game. I use it in shining force 3 to play with characters that are normally impossible to play. It is not only about cheating but also unlocking what seems impossible.
Noted!
If you were to flash your action replay to a Pseudo Kai that should remove the need to remove/insert the cart with the Satiator. I have the purpose built Pseudo Kai with the built in switch for 1m and 4m memory along with the cheats menu and a Satiator. When my Saturn boots, it boots to the Pseudo Kai, I back out to "multiplayer" and boot to the Satiator menu. I then select a game and the game boots. If you then reset your console with the reset button the system will boot back to the Pseudo Kai menu. The game you selected in your Satiator is still loaded and you can then select your cheats. Works like a charm every time. 👍
@@MasaCheez thanks for the added info!
Thanks for you review, im planning to buy it from KK game store as they have the most review but turns out they have the faulty boards, im gonna buy from the Retro Game Paradise store now but apparently it's called "Retro Game Paradise 2nd store" ?
Correct!
Good stuff
Thanks!
Is the Saroo cartridge able to use both the RAM expansion and the storage expansion at the same time while playing a game?
The action replay cartridge is only able to use the RAM expansion while playing. The storage expansion can only be used in the Saturn BIOS. You cannot save game progress directly to the cartridge.
Saroo does all those things at the same time. Ive played the games that needed the RAM, plus, it saves.
I have wanted to get something like this for my Saturn for awhile. They are just so expensive. The one I put in my Sega Dreamcast was less than $50 for example.
They aren't cheap, but the Saturn seems to be going upwards in value these days. And producing for it is only in small margins. Once theres more demand, the manufactoring will go up and the price goes down. But it's worth it already, even at this price point.
it would be cool to create a menu with box art instead of a list of games
The menu has changed with an unofficial FW update that i installed. With that update, the BG has changed with a graphic and the games are now sorted in alphabetic order. I need to do an update video on the Saroo, much has changed in just a few months.
Not sure if this would be possible but for me if SAROO had SEGA Netlink functionality that would take it to the next level, right now it essentially blocks that by being in the cart slot.
Options like that would up the price for sure.
Maybe, but the SAROO has an FPGA chip on it so it could be just a case of using that and a small $1 wifi module I've seen added to other projects@@fistbumpbros
since this isnt a replacement for the disc drive, can the device copy games from th disc to the Saroo? that would be awesome
I don't think so.
Excellent review! Thank you
Thank you!
I'd just call it a flashcart. Name "Everdrive" implies that it's made by Krikzz. 😄
Still, a great video! 👍
It's the same as calling a tablet an iPad 😃
It's just more easy to understand for folks.
@@fistbumpbros I'm going to go with @PrimeRetroGamer. I thought Krikzz made a new product when I saw this video title. This is for sure a flash cart.
Ok
Mode is better but Saroo is cheap. Who knows. Maybe eventually sarroo will be able to catch up if the dev keeps working on it. It's just great that Saturn has so many options now.
Saroo is catching up fast. Also, its just popping in the cartridge and go. You don't lose your cd drive.
I'd like to have a list of everything that doesn't work, to know if it's a dealbreaker for me. Otherwise, it's very very tempting to get one. I don't have an ODE yet for my Saturn
There is someone on Reddit that's testing the games. I have now something like 86+ games that all work fine. Im not a fan of every genre out there and I don't need/want a complete set.
This seems like a great, low-cost way to play fan translation games. Personally, I have a Satiator for that, but the Satiator is a bit pricy.
Yes. The price is what kept me from getting another product other than the Saroo. The Saroo is affordable for most people and does what it needs to do.
Eh, I think that it’s worth the price. Especially with a Japanese Saturn. Games are more compatible and plus there’s a pseudo Kai app for our satiators to activate pro action replay codes.
For now all my games work totally fine.
I love my Saroo it's great I've been playing Dracula X NITM the ultimate version. And love it. If it had the PSX Dub I'd play it over any other version. That is the only downside of this awesome mod.
Yes, ive played the Dracula X rom as well, awesome game. Maybe the next version of the rom will have the dub.
@@fistbumpbros one can hope.
Very Honest
Always. No one paying me off 👍
@@fistbumpbros I just got my SAROO. I got the software from the seller but its still not working. Any guides?
No Action replay codes support ? boo 👎 but everything else about it is a huge plus ! It’s always great to have another option in market. I’m sure it will just keep getting better and better with updates
I havent seen the option. Yet. Maybe in future FW updates. Personally, i have never ever use AR codes for any retro console.
So this removes the 4MB expansion and the ability to use action replay codes?
Only the action replay.
hey bro, what is model of your telly?
Hi, it's a Sony Trinitron KV-21FV1D.
I just got one, but all i get is the Drive Empty screen when I turn on my Saturn
You have to place the firmware and the folders specific as shown in the video.
if the Sega Saturn was capable of playing backwards compatible to Genesis games...then would Genesis Roms work on it? and possibly Sega CD in away if possible???
It all depends on what the developer has in store for us in the future.
This is really cool and, if I didn't already have the Satiator, I would definitely pull the trigger.
Make like a stack of installed ODE's just for fun 😆
Is there a better place to download Saroo files?
Yes, from the developers Github account ✌️
Paid $92 (including shipping and 25% VAT) for mine - board only. Absolutely love it.
Good stuff!
from where?
@@djdimpanwww.aliexpress.us/item/1005006446895637.html?gps-id=pcStoreNewArrivals&scm=1007.23409.271287.0&scm_id=1007.23409.271287.0&scm-url=1007.23409.271287.0&pvid=e27bf43f-ce82-4564-9d89-6c66bde04d00&_t=gps-id%3ApcStoreNewArrivals%2Cscm-url%3A1007.23409.271287.0%2Cpvid%3Ae27bf43f-ce82-4564-9d89-6c66bde04d00%2Ctpp_buckets%3A668%232846%238116%232002&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21EUR%2123.61%2123.61%21%21%21181.50%21181.50%21%40210324c817052637482318761e8ef9%2112000037201602498%21rec%21NL%214716161618%21&spm=a2g0o.store_pc_home.smartNewArrivals_2007998693069.1005006446895637&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa
lol they stealed you money, i payed 90 with 64gb card, traslucent case and elite version, clown!!!
Use Fat Sorter to list A to Z
I installed some firmware updates which makes it all go alphabetical. It's been a while, but there have been great FW updates. I still need to make a update video about the new features.
Dreamcast for me
Ok cool bro
loving this thing but ODE isn't the right word, Flashcart works too but its more like a flashram device right, since it overrides the ram
Thanks, i have been pointed to the matter a few times. I'll highlight it in a newer video in the future!
I have Fenrir: 100% compatibility, no speed problems, alphabetic list and similar price.
In convination of a pseudo kai it is for me the best choice.
There have been updates to all your stated problems. Works even better now. Need to make an updated video.
I'd rather buy the Sega Saturn Ard D from Abernic it plays everything
Ok. Thats a totally different device with a totally different purpose. Thanks for joining the conversation though.
@@fistbumpbros It makes sense bro and it's cheaper
@@user-hh1vr9sy3m to each it's own. People play on original hardware for the authentic feeling. And some, like you, emulate the stuff.
game at 5:40 please
Assault Suit Leynos 2. Awesome game.
SAROO is not an Everdrive, it's a flashcart. Everdrives are a brand of flashcart made by a specific developer.
See the same comment below, with the same answer.
he uses the term everdrive to help people understand what it is............