Cassie Stoddart and the Scream Killers
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- Cassie Stoddart was living in Pocatello, Idaho. When she went to house sit one weekend, her boyfriend and friends joined her. What started out as a spooky house, quickly developed into a real life horror movie, that was throughly planned and executed by those closest.
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WOW, the way Torey's mom is FAWNING over him is nauseating! I really wonder how her attitude would change if her precious baby had been the one butchered by "friends" that he trusted while in a very vulnerable position. The are BOTH monsters!
That's what I was thinking 💯
She grosses me out.
Apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Few are capable of killing but they have rotten minds just the same. The parents are wastes of space as well
Disgusting, RIGHT!!!
So is dad....
Torey's mom is completely delusional, immersed in irrational denial. This is in part what created Torey, the sense that he could easily tell her anything and she would blindly believe it, which meant he could literally get away with anything, or so he thought. Brian at least showed some signs of redemption, trying to answer for what he did. Both of these evil idiots should never be let out of prison, ever, for any reason. R.I.P. Cassie . . . she didn't deserve any of this.
There is a documentary where these 2 guys and a couple other child killers are interviewed. Brian admits what he did and at least outwardly accepts responsibility for what he did and tells them that they knew what they where doing. The Torey dude looks like someone's prison wife and still says he didn't know what was gonna happen
Perfectly stated thank you.
To this day Toreys mom still thinks her son is innocent and should be released
He was faking any kind of remorse. There is no redemption here for people who do these things. They will pay though.
The father seems equally as delusional
After watching Tori's parents cover, edit and clean up Tori's answers to protect their angel I can understand how Tori became Tori. I doubt he was ever held accountable for anything in his life.
I hope Torey is his Pod’s resident Pole Smoker for the rest of his life 🤦🏻♂️.
Yup the creation of a sociopathic narcissist
Yep
"mY pErFecT LittLe BoY"
how are you so stupid to see the name spelt 'Torey' in the video, and then spell it Tori?
They "studied" how to not get caught for murder, but then they RECORDED EVERYTHING
It’s hard to believe that she(and her bf) was hearing doors slam…things get broken….all that…and she decided that it’s just in her imagination??? I’m confused about that part. He said those two dumbfks were doing those things to lure them downstairs and the bfs mom came to pick him up…I just can’t imagine anyone(let alone a 16 year old chick) is going to ignore things being BROKEN and doors being SLAMMED…I know sometimes you can hear some weird noises, but anything that is 100% identifiable should be extremely concerning. How tf was she not scared out of her mind, ready to leave with her bf??? It’s so weird…
. wow, i know, crazy humans
Did they? Did they record everything? Did they record them going for a dump?
@@dionst.michael1482 so you're *that guy* then .... ffs. Grow up.
@@Delicate_Disaster make me zero
“Torey is just a kind, kind person.”
Also Torey, “We are making our kill list!”
Blind parents make me sick!!!
Its ok theyre rotting in prison
How do you think he ended up that way? Totally delusional parents.
I understand a parent wanting to protect their child but ignoring the actual evidence of their son talking about killing Cassie before and after the fact shows they are in total denial of what their son is. Condoning his lies is only perpetuating this crime by allowing him to deny his responsibility. Their son will always be a monster because they refuse to make him be responsible for this horrific crime. His parents are only corrupting him more by being in denial.
Yeah supporting your child is one thing but they're basically spitting in the face of the victim and every relative or friend
I feel like it’s a defense mechanism for some people. If your child is capable of murdering a friend of theirs then what does that say about you as a parent? Not condoning the behavior but i understand
Matt must have crippling survivor’s guilt. That poor kid. I hope he’s had all the support he needs.
At his age I had enough sense to have done several things that he did not do. I would not have left my girlfriend in a house in which there were weird noises, power going off and on, and dogs wanting to go down into the basement where the FUSE BOX is and NOISES were coming from. At his age I would have armed myself with two of the largest kitchen knives, let the dogs go ahead of me into the basement, and figured out wtf was going on. His failure in this was the first and foremost thing I couldn't stop thinking about throughout this entire story.
@@joebauers3746 or at least call the cops and not just leave. Why would he just leave her there?!
@@joebauers3746 Depending on where you live/how shitty your house is, power cut like this can be very common, and dogs wanting to eat the basement rats/ramdom cats breaking stuff down there can be common too. He might have rationalised that. But at least yeah barricade that door or go in with the mother because that's an unknown house
@@mikenelson3338 he wanted to stay over to not let Cassie alone (since she didn't wanted to come to his home) but his mom said no so he left. Let's not blame him and point at the 2 monsters that actually did something bad
@@joebauers3746 knives? Two knives? I guess you're not here in the U.S.A.? Two nuts, both also armed with knives, with the element of surprise on their side, the issue of MISTAKENLY believing the nuts were friends, you'd have died in that basement Joe. I'll admit I'm an exception and most haven't/don't but, Hell I've kept myself actually ARMED at almost all times since I was his age (using my knife means I've lost both guns) and under those circumstances may have suffered the same fate. Though I'd like to believe the minute I saw them in the basement I'd have had my guard up. No one who knows you EVER tries scare or surprise pranks when they know a . 44, .357, &/or . 22 Magnum is just part of getting dressed.
Big enough tough guys to record themselves talking all sorta of nasty shit about murdering their classmate, and actually doing it. Then you need mommy and daddy in prison to keep saying it was the other guy. Pathetic. This case has always bothered me so bad. Thanks for covering it. Absolute monsters. Love you mikey!
kid do this all the time - they just never go through with it - theyre usually showboating for each other.
But sometimes, theres one psychopath thats serious about it. And thats brian. I believe tori didnt take part. but he was there, and guilty by association.
@@scorch4299 well I disagree with you. I believe Torrey was more of a psycho than Brian. Watch the documentary where they are interviewed with Torrey’s parents they are psychos too 😜
@@jessicajones3379 who?
watched a lot of these and the murderers seem to have enabling parents that are totally in denial
@@scorch4299 Torrey was definitely the ring leader. You can see in the video they made. He would poke at Brian and tease him for not knowing things. He'd also "test" him.
Did Torey’s parents not see those video tapes of him planning the murders of his friends? Did they just ignore them? He said himself that he’s a psycho. So, for him to complain that an article made him out to be a psychopath is so rich🤣🥰.
The fact that these idiots documented their escapades clearly show their Sociopathic nature. Hope they rot in jail and in hell.
Denial is a helluva drug
That's what I was thinking there telling everyone on the internet what they intended to do
NEVER EVER ignore a growling dog! Depending on breed, dogs sense of smell is 250 to 750 times better than humans. Dogs hearing is also much better. I once went to museum that had an exhibit on dogs hearing- someone walking on a clean, bare floor barely registers to us- to a dog it sounds like they are walking on a floor covered with corn flakes.
If you don't feel safe to investigate what the dogs are barking at, get out and call the police while you are running away.
Rest in peace Cassie.🌹
Thought the same thing, they weren't young children - they were 16, so the fact that the lights went out, they could hear noises from the basement AND the dogs were growling at the basement door, should have been enough for them to hightail it out of there whilst calling the police....I'm just glad that the scum who committed this atrocity were caught & will spend their lives in prison ; deservedly!
Should i ignore a cat meowing?
@@lordtesticlees9810 depends on the cat and your sanity. Some cats like to stare and meow at seemingly nothing, it may be an intruder, or a small bug, or a spec of dust or a ghost.
@@lordtesticlees9810 99,9% of Times yes
yeah that part of this story really sucks. I'm sure her boyfriend, Matt, still beats himself up today about not taking action. So damn sad.
I remember when this first happened. Those boys are monsters and cowards. Poor Cassie, may her memory be a blessing. 🕯️💖
hi
These two little creeps have disgusted me since I first heard of them. Both of them cold-hearted and remorseless. I hope they never see freedom again. Love and hugs, Mike 💗
In that clip of Torey in jail with his parents, it kinda looks like (to me anyway) that his parents keep over talking him and saying how innocent he is and he just kinda accepts it, but the look on his face is pure guilt. He looks like he can't bring himself to tell them the truth so he goes along with their bullshit. I think he was for sure the ringleader when they did this. Poor Cassie. I've heard her story many times and it always tears me up. She was so young & beautiful. Rest peacefully.
The director of Lost for Life should have left his parents out of the documentary.
Thank you, Mike, for putting the victim's name in the title and not the killers! I appreciate that effort. I hope we all do. It may not seem like a big deal but giving them recognition is what they want. I'm glad you took that from them. May Cassie Staddart rest in peace.
For sure, I noticed when he made that key change in titling a couple months ago, much respect
I COULD NOT AGREE MORE!! Personally I think all of the killers should be called something demeaning and give them no voice, no "fame" nothing. F them right in the A...
@@CantTellYou it's another reason why I love this man.
I 100% noticed and appreciate it!
Yesss! Realized that not long ago, too! That's why we love our Irish Boy, right???
Hey there from Austria 🇦🇹
How to raise a sociopath: make excuses for every bad thing they do.
"Excitable boy, they all said.". - Warren Zevon
They're both just trying to be hardcore for the other one. Playing chicken. Neither one blinked, now everyone loses.
yes indeed.
Tori’s parents absolutely did this. Absolutely disgusting
Exactly
Tory’s parents are living in fantasy land and not helping their son at all by saying he is innocent. It is gong to be hell if they ever snap out of the delusion and face the harsh truth. To see both those boys laughing and joking about killing their friend was sickening. I can’t imagine how terrified that poor girl was.
You've made an excellent point - "going to be hell if they ever snap out." This seems to be an issue even in less awful circumstances. If someone has put so much time and effort into believing or doing something, it can break them if that reality is shattered. On a tiny level, I see that from my students who don't feel they deserved less than an A because they likely did work hard or truly felt they met the requirements. On a much much larger scale, parents who truly poured their best effort and care into raising and supporting their children feel like it's impossible for their children to commit such horrible acts. Fantasy land = easier than crippling truths.
@@ambermartin3961 If they ever admit their son is a psycho killer, they will be obliged to think they are in part responsible for it. No gonna happen if these people think they're among the "good ones" in this society.
@@rontauranac yeah, that's what I was more or less getting at with the psychological connection.
How could his mother watch those videos and still believe he's innocent? She knows the truth, she's just in denial.
I’m mad that Cassie’s mom was annoyed with her for not calling or answering, but didn’t go check on her for 2 days! My mother would’ve been over there the 1st time she called & I didn’t answer! Not to mention, when Matt called to inform them of the strangeness & she STILL didn’t go or send her brothers over to check, it’s just infuriating. I’m in my 50s & my mom still called me if I was gone longer than we anticipated. I just can’t wrap my understanding around this.
My mama would have told my aunt and uncle to put them pets in the kennel and I wouldn't have been over there especially with my boyfriend 👍🏾
@@sethunyanikuru1079 Right? I thought that was sketchy, too. They were alone for hours & no one thought it might be too much temptation too soon. Matt’s mom should’ve told her to come with them. They could’ve put food out for the pets & come back in the morning. It’s really just so heartbreaking bc it didn’t have to happen! They had warnings that something was wrong. And the adults were careless.
@@novice5895 They should've just taken the dogs with them! It was just 2 dogs, not that difficult to haul into the car and have at Matt's house for just a night. I'm sure those psychos would've killed the dogs if they went upstairs and found Cassie gone.
@@sharraleigh Absolutely! It all just makes no sense whatsoever!
@@sethunyanikuru1079 I know, right? I get she was a lovely and responsible girl and wanted to earn some extra cash to buy a car... However, she was still 16 (and still considered a child). Even if those two psychopaths didn't aim to kill her, anything could have happened to her there in an isolated part of that city.
Tori's mother must not have watched the film her son made. Mom is completely out of her mind. Her son is a horrible murderer.
Well said
Simple denial. She can’t accept that her baby boy is a monster.
Oh she watched it........she let it play and looked the other way 🤦🏼♀️
Mother's are always delusional in these cases. His mother is probably just as psychotic as he is.
This should be a lesson to all of you 90s and 2000s mothers. This is what you are doing to the men of our world. When a young boy is screwed up it's his mother's fault when a young girl is screwed up it's her father's fault. It's simple psychology. The reason we're having so many more killings by young men these days is because we have so many more mothers that thought they could do it alone and made a mockery of the family system
So chilling to think about her last moments, the way they turned the power off again when she was all alone and then slammed the door right before attacking.. the deepest sense of fear and dread I imagine.
Sending love and prayers to her loved ones!
It was seriously like a horror film, but real life. There aren't words.
It's crazy how these young killers always seem to chose a friend to kill! With friends like that...who needs enemies?
Exactly. And in some dark, rural house in the middle of nowhere. How awful 😞
This one for me was exceptionally difficult. This poor girl it breaks my heart. Also imagine the guilt her boyfriend lives with. Utterly Heartbreaking
His mother lives with is more like it.
It happened soon after he left, asking (begging?) her to come with him. He has nothing to feel guilty about in terms of having been able to prevent her death. He is likely to feel guilty for being glad he left because, otherwise he would have mostly likely, unless he was a trained fighter, been a second victim.
@@anthonygalzarano8099 what a confusing comment...
and imagine the guilt her mother lives with. She was mad at Cassie for not answering but, never went to check on her!
@@susivarga7303 A WWII veteran, Paul Fussell, once wrote about the involuntary surge of joy he felt when his friend stepped out of a hedgerow just before him and was shot dead instead of him. He then spent the rest of his life hating himself for his reaction.
That last clip of the flip off friends was the humor I love about this channel 😂 thanks Mike!!
Indeed, I literally loled
How disturbing is it to know that Mike could put out a video daily for the rest of his life and still not run out of these horrific crimes to tell us about?...🤔
Very true, but this one has been extensively covered on several channels and podcasts for quite a while. That said I'll always watch TC's take because it usually provides new stuff, like the interviews years later at the end.
We can stay indoors out of fear and watch all his content! 😂
Not surprising given the population.
@@DanceySteveYNWA true🤣🤣🤣
I was just saying this to my partner the other night. Mike is fantastic and the amount of research he must have to do is terrific. I know his channel has blown up. I have been a sub since the very beginning and I am so pleased and proud at his success. But yes, I agree that the amount of crime stories out there is scary and troubling. Bless
Poor Cassie. I couldn't imagine what she went through.
Those boys, such bastards!!
Glad you're back Mike!
They were so cringe and stupid. It was embarrassing to watch them talking to the camera.
calm down it was only seven days
There is no cure for stupid
@@JohnRiversOfficial Ha!
These two dudes, especially Torey (and by extension his family) - total monsters. Torey still thinks he’s so innocent and that he was wronged by the court system and his delusional parents think he did nothing wrong. I absolutely despise hearing about this case because of how arrogant Torey’s parents are, and the fact Cassie lay dead for more than a day and no one seemed to raise any alarm after not hearing from her.
They are obviously in denial , it must be almost impossible to believe someone you bought into this world could do such a thing
Oh Torrey has his parents convinced with his acting that he was the real victim in this scenario. Didn’t they watch the video these possessed little deviants made? Fooled, foolish parents with an entitled pair of killers for offspring.
Disgusting family. Unless they are in shock themselves.
lemi, dude, if you cant say anything nice about someone, rather say nothing
@@JohnRiversOfficial are you fucking for real!it's a stupid joke if ur trying to be funny,bc if ur 4real,u need major help!!
Those pimple faced monsters. I cannot imagine how scared Cassie must have been at the sight of those masks and when she realised what was happening. All that evidence and still these parents cannot see who their son really is. Very scary. My heart goes out to Cassies family.
"I always wanted to make a mark on the world and this is the way to do it." Also. "I think the perfect ending would be a school shooting." Wow, I'm speechless. How about all the positive ways they could've made an impact... volunteering, donating, mentoring, etc. I've heard of this case but never the details. To stab your "friend" 36 times is beyond evil. So sorry this happened to you, Cassie. ❤R.I.P. Condolences to her family.🌹
And then lying and calling mummy and daddy to defend them. I really hope they are never released (even if prison is too soft for them). They both have psychopath faces and ONLY want to be paroled one day (Brian by saying he is a better person / Torey by denying).
You put that well. There are a lot of ways to make a positive impact if you want to and you list some very good ones that a lot of kids do and more. Some kids are just good friends to their peers which is great. These boys are rotted to their core. I feel funny saying this about juveniles, but it is very wrong generally and to Cassie Jo's family, that they were taken off of death row.
That poor kid Matt, he must have such bad survivor guilt even though he’s not responsible for any of this he felt something was wrong. I hope he’s been able to move on as best he could.
Yeah watching this,I wonder what he's up to,hopefully his mental health is in check. Of course the parents of the victim as well. Just a terrible story. Glad Justice was done.
His Mom too who wouldn't let him stay the night but Cassie was encouraged to go with them, he would've been murdered with her if he did stay. We all make our own decisions because we're responsible to ourselves for the outcome.
@@AliValentine143 So you're saying Cassie made a decision to stay and is therefore responsible for her death? You either delete your stupid comment or rephrase it properly. Otherwise, you take the responsibility of having a sick judgement.
I wish his mom would have insisted that Cassie come with them, or that they all stay at the house. Perhaps Matt didn't communicate what was actually going on. If the dogs are barking incessantly, things are breaking, and the power is flickering, it's not a damn ghost. A person or animal is down there. I understand a 16yo not being able to think critically and objectively, and maybe not knowing technical things about the world like circuit breakers. Maybe he was spooked, but couldn't articulate why something was definitely wrong to his mom. His mom really should have stayed, walked through the house, or insisted that Cassie leave with them. I'm sure the homeowners would have wanted her to leave, and not try to protect their property against intruders. At least I hope that wasn't their intention.
@@ILoveHellas L O L
Shut the hell up. Gonna be hostile for no reason because you interpreted the other person's comment a certain way. After reading yours and then theirs. You are the one who needs to delete yours.
Not for a second do I think what you said is what Ali meant.
I remember this case when I was growing up. I was in a way just like Tori and Brian, being social outcasts and being a big movie nerd. But everything after that stops. These two were absolute monsters and what they did to Cassie was absolutely unforgivable. They deserve nothing but to sit in jail for the rest of their miserable lives. And the fact that they videotaped everything and thought they can get away with it just blows my mind.
I feel so bad for Matt...Jesus I don't know how'd I react.
Do you mean tori and Brian? They were the outcast weirdos, Matt was her boyfriend
Ah I see you edited it now, so now my comment is pointless sorry lol
@@bbyjscx He probably suffered, blaming himself for leaving on top of suvivors guilt. Poor kid.
@@bbyjscx I have 3 cats and one of them shit all over his legs and tracked it all over my hair while I slept recently.. just thought you should know.. ✌️
@@mcoupe69 cats can be malicious on purpose. My mother was shall we say angry a lot and would sometimes abuse the cat. The cat used to take a crap in a drawer on clothes if the drawer was left open but only on my mother's clothes in my mother's dresser. One night the cat pounced on my mother's face while she was sleeping. I've heard of cats crapping on a person's pillow before. I hope you're treating your cat right. It's possible your cat might have been angry at you for some reason and shit in your hair on purpose. Just something you might want to consider.
@@mcoupe69 Snatch your cat and take it to a no kill shelter. You will be doing it a great favor.
Torey's parents tell me everything I need to know about why he is the way he is.
Torey and Brian should never be let out of prison. They are horrible human beings and watching them planning Cassie's murder was appalling. They are both 100% guilty. Torey's parents are delusional saying he's a kind person. Did they see the videos? My heart breaks for Cassie's family. I hope they both rot in jail for the rest of their lives! Love ya Mike! Stay well!❤️
Even Torrey makes a stupid ass smirk when his crazy in denial Mom makes a comment like “and you’re innocent “
We had a neighbour like that with her son, always defending him. He was sneaky & I wouldn’t trust him. I just hope that as an adult now, he is responsible.
They will probably get out unfortunately
@@katesleuth1156 responsible or murderers
@@kellietaylor9913 Responsible or a murderer, given the circumstances.
They thought their abhorrent actions would gain them fame. I've heard this story many times and the only name I remember is Cassie Jo Stoddart. Knowing that gives me a good bit of satisfaction.
Same. I’ve never thought of either boy other than that one documentary that I saw about juveniles with life sentences… I think. But still don’t know their names. Just 2 little punks who deserve to rot in jail for their actions.
I've heard this case many times as well, and each time, Cassie's name is the only one I remember as well. I'm glad I'm not the only one who's memory is solely of and for the victim.
Well said, and agree. ❤️🩹
The total blindness of these evil killers's parents is amazing, but you see it all the time with the parents of killers. Maybe they don't want to known as raising monsters. May you rest in peace Cassie, you didn't at all deserve what happened to you. I and most of my friends have watched Scream and other horror movies and none of us thought it was inspiring because we aren't psychos.
I don't think the parents were blind, at least not the dad. They were both in a sick relationship with their psychopathic son.
I think Brian wad adopted.🤔
Torys parents are so delusional. Hes a Spoiled Narcissist little Pos. .🤮
Plenty of parents like that around. I know one like that. "He a good boy".
@@daveandcynthiabrock9250 exactly. People do Halloween, watch and read horror, play tricks, and whatever but only a few personally relate to it. They’re supposed to scare you not give you ideas. I’m super happy they’ll never get out of prison
OMG. That’s truly awful. Perhaps the most evil crime story I’ve heard. That poor girl. 😔 Very respectfully told by you Mike. Hard to believe that’s a true story.
That middle finger war at the end was hysterical! Great job Mike! 🎉
Did I hear right ,They cut off one of her fingers?
Sick. F
Poor 13 year old who found Cassie in that horrific state hope she's recovered 🙏 Mike we missed you my Friday was rubb.....ish.
This case is so upsetting. Torey is irredeemable and his parents are terrible too.
And Brian? Now with the new abortion laws well have many More like him.
@@davidperez5089 Right, because abortion justifies killing anyone who gets in your way. Ever read the stats on how many female murderers had abortions?
@@davidperez5089 Come on. You're not that stupid.
@@alexf9381 Yes... yes they are that stupid.
@@davidperez5089 We got a brainwashed guy here. You're seriously trying to say that a baby that was supposed to be killed, but wasn't, has a higher chance of being a murderer? That is some serious brainwashing.
Listen to your dogs, inspect their signals with them armed if possible. I have been irritated with my Doberman when he was a pup, but quickly learned how to read his signals. He has saved and warned me more than once. Home invasion is rare but very real and devastating. RIP Cassie and may the murderers waste away in jail along with their enabling parents!
look at the lifei-less - useless parents during the kids interview. They should be haunted by this everyday they walk the earth .
I agree. I always let my big dogs “answer” the door.
I tried arming my dogs….they looked at the guns, sniffed them and then pissed on them…..maybe I should be armed?
@@TheWizardOfTheFens LOL A buddy of mine back in the day had a pit bull and a couple olde english bulldogs theirnames were Smith, Wesson, and Ruger lol
So, what happened with the dogs when the door of the cellar opened? Did they all of a sudden became best friends with the killers?
I hate hearing about this case, partly because of how ignorant and disrespectful Torey's parents are towards Cassie and her family. They're in total denial and it's so infuriating. Rest in peace Cassie, Torey and Brian got what they deserved.
They deserved far worse
No what they deserve is to be taken down to the local sewage treatment plant where swimming is very obviously RESTRICTED and tossed right in with the machinery running. That would be both satisfying their desires for restricted activities while simultaneously giving them what they deserve.
Well, if it makes you any happy, Judges Morgan Christen, Jay Bybee, and James Selna, earlier this year put a stop to Torey and his parent's appeal attempts, once and for all.
@@MrJon92as I can't say it makes me "happy", like pushing them to certain death in a huge tank of churning human excrement would, but if it makes life easier for the surviving friends and family of this poor girl it's a good thing and probably the best we can hope for in the world we know inhabit, where true justice is a thing of the past.
@@r.shanethompson7933 It's definitely a great thing that it's finally 100% official that Torey will remain in prison for life. What I'm curious to know though is if you were someone that did consider the previous judges involved in the case all heroes for their decisions that ensured that Torey would remain in prison, would you consider Judges Christen, Bybee, and Selna the biggest heroes of them all in light of what I just shared? A response would be appreciated.
Always so hard to hear about this case. There is always a sadness for every case, but the betrayl of this girl has always stuck with me. The remorselessness of these scumbags chills me deep. RiP, Cassie.
Parents have to start parenting and sorry but in the states with the believe boys will be boys breed this waste of space pigs
Yeah I agree. I’m sure being at the hands of a murderer is always more frightening than I can even imagine, but these guys went out of their way to scare her as much as possible. And she was their good friend.
You said it. There is some kind of special evilness in this one somehow.
I don’t see it the same way. Any murder, for any reason, is a betrayal of sorts - the degree is irrelevant. These two morons were never her friend to begin with; they’re both sociopaths. There was nothing to betray.
It’s still a tragic case, no doubt, but more chilling than a completely random murder for no reason at all? No, just a couple of attention seeking losers who chose an easy target because the target was easy.
And spare a thought for her boyfriend too. That poor guy must be racked with guilt over leaving her there that night, or even not calling the cops when they heard sounds etc.
Really hard listening to them in the car...stupidity overload with a twist of darkness. Rest in peace Cassie. My condolences to her family and friends.
Cringy teenage edginess taken to the extreme.
It's embarrassing listening to them act like they're big, scary killers because they killed a lovely young woman who wrongly thought they were her friends.
I remember hearing that one of the boys attempted to pursue Cassie, but she denied. Unfortunately, that was likely one of the reasons why they wanted to kill her
Yup.
When I watched the videos I wondered how common that is. I have two sons-- there were kids who didn't want to hang around adults-- that's the most I could say. Other than that I didn't see any kids that were different from my kids. They talked about girls I suppose. To these two horrible guys, talking about her as a girl was linked to their plans to kill her. What is that about????? Of course, if a girl turns you down you've got a right to get revenge-- everybody knows that. But that hadn't even really happened I guess, and they didn't seem even jealous of her boyfriend. And how were they so out of it that they made those tapes and didn't destroy them?
I worked with Torey’s mother in Lewiston, Idaho. She is entirely delusional and truly believes her son is innocent. She moved to the town I’m from to live closer to Torey in prison. Most ironic part is that we worked together at a treatment facility for troubled youth. Once we found out who she was and after multiple very uncomfortable conversations with her about Torey. It didn’t take long for her to not feel welcome at work anymore and she quit shortly after.
The way these parents look at their son in the video... it is all there, just what you said. They truly believe he can do no wrong. On the one hand, you want parents to back up their children and love them, and they certainly do that. But this is beyond delusional.
He's on tape. She's past delusional
She should be sent to prison for 10 years...
Yeah her defense was always that he loved acting and making short films, and that he thought that’s what they were doing the whole time and then went into shock when he realized what had actually happened and was scared for his own life so he didn’t want to not go along with it. It was crazy they released a documentary series on Netflix and my wife and I were just watching it and had no idea at all until she popped up in the documentary. Going to work the next day it was hard to act normal knowing that the crazy lady in that documentary was someone I was working 40 hours a week with and had no idea the whole time. She always told us she moved to Lewiston to be closer to her son. No details. So it was pretty shocking.
Lock her up too, I don't feel safe with her on the streets. She might end up doing what her son did, that's not uncommon with these cases.
You talked about The Museum of Clean in Pocatello. Several years ago I was driving across the country and saw a sign for it. Needless to say, I was intrigued. I visited the museum and found it fascinating. The owner was there and because I was by myself, he gave me a personal tour. It's one of my favorite stories about my 43 day, 10,000 mile trip discovering America!
I'm actually jealous of this lol
Sounds weird,
it sounds interesting. if I'd have to choose between that and mozarts residence, I think I'd take that and not just because I've been to mozart residence.
it's not that I'm some cleaning freak either(I wish.. time to shovel some cat poop right now) but chemistry, inventions, lifestyle history and devices and such are interesting to me
I’ve been there several times. It’s a cool museum. The owner is an old, energetic guy.
Torey's mother wrote a book on her sons innocence. It's laughable and degrading to Cassie's memory. Torey and Brian do interviews on a documentary about kids in prison. Should still be on youtube although it's been years since I last saw it. Very eye opening into the psychopathic nature of Torey. Brian does show some remorse but again , he is good at being deceptive.
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And Torey smirks throughout the interview...
I can't imagine how terrified that poor girl was in her last moments
No one needs to wonder how Torey turned out the way he did seeing his parents.
This case always horrifies me, no matter how many times I see a video about it. The videos of the two before and after are chilling and terrifying. RIP, lovely Cassie... 😢🌹
It's really sick how do get so out of touch with reality
I really hope they are never released (even if prison is too soft for them). They both have psychopath faces and ONLY want to be paroled one day (Brian by saying he is a better person / Torey by denying, going by his lawyer and parents' strategy).
I'm in shock at the parents of Torey...I mean it was so obvious that they were coaching him to say the right things and show the right kind of emotions.
They must be so proud of themeselves.
The mother writing a book ????? Seriously...I can only hope it's in the bin and she isn't making 1 cent from it.
As for Cassie..what can anyone say....may she be at peace in a place where Brians/Toreys don't exist.
That book is profane, but it might be a hefty teaching tool for those who study psychopathic children and enabling parents. The book only got 2.5 out of 10 stars in reviews...likely from their small pool of numbskull friends.
As a mom, I'd probably defend my children to the ends of Earth & back. But seeing the videos they made & how they both obviously planned this whole thing, I'd have to step away. No doubt I'd always love my children no matter what they did, but I'd stop several busses short of defending their actions or trying to say "Not my kid". Torey's parents are straight up delusional... just like their son
Dont worry they be seeing Hell Also!
Weird, today I just started reading "the Guilty Innocent" by Shannon Adamcik. I'm 20 pages in, and the denial the woman is in is blatant already. Thanks for covering this Mike, love your work.
I remember watching coverage of this case when I was a kid, and it scared the crap out of me. The video footage the boys took is still so chilling. What a horrible scenario. Sending big love to Cassie's family
I thought their aftermath video while driving away shows the reality of murder and what it can do to the perpetrator as well as the victim.
Not all killers are stone cold and walk away from it feeling nothing or feeling good. Many killers are panicking and not sure what to make of what just happened.
Cassie Jo Stoddart ~ a name I remember well. I just so wish we could go back in time and she would decide to go home with her boyfriend and his mother, but it was her wonderful character that contributed to her death, tragically. A horrific story. So sad. Thank you for covering this Mike! xxx
This crime story has always made me so angry. Not only did they kill her and film it, they pretended to be her friend, joked with her all the while plotting against her. Wicked!
And then top it off with the psychos (Torey and his parents) denying everything. It is just despicable! 😡
Yea I agree. She did nothing wrong. Her boyfriend would've died too if his parents weren't so strict. Very sad.
The punishment should be "An hour in a locked room with the victim's family or their chosen representatives".
When unmasked at the end of the Scream movies the killers are revealed to be evil, banal idiots. It's nauseating to think that's where those two drew their inspiration.
I actually cannot believe they were able to pull this off, given how they have an IQ of two, combined. That poor girl. Also, I heard this story before and those times I heard that Matt asked his mom if Cassie could come with them to stay the night at theirs bc of the lights and her being scared and that his mom said no.
I hope she feels like shit
I live in Idaho only a few hours away from Pocatello, and although I was only 5 when this happened I remember everybody being scared around us. Poor Cassie didn’t deserve this and I hope she’s resting in peace. ❤❤❤
I live in Pocatello and that house is a Halloween attraction for some reason. So fuckin sad!
I was attending ISU when it happened. It was terrifying when it happened because I had night classes and had to walk home alone in the dark. It was a horrible crime.
Welcome back Mike and That Chapter team, I hope you had a great vacation. Now with that being said let's give it a Goooooooo everyone!!!
There's no team; it's just Mike! :)
It's just one person, does everything. I worry for the day he doesn't find a good story, he will make one.
Ah, has he been away? I felt like it had been longer than usual since his last upload. Welcome back Mike, u were missed!
@Bradley Mitchell 🤔
Wait there’s a team? We want to meet them all
I can't believe Matt's mother did not call the police when she picked him up and he told her about the strange events. Then the next day she just blew it off when he could not get a hold of her. There is no way that I would have left someone alone in a house like that. Geez.
so easy to say when you werent in that position
The whole thing is strange... Cassie's mother not checking up on her. Matt's mother not going into that house to see what was going on or insisting that Cassie leave with them. Even Cassie staying on there alone after all that noise, etc. coming up out of the basement.
It's easy. You can't panic over every little thing your kid spouts off about. You just *can't*, or life would be literally unlivable. And she offered to drive him over the next day (not that it would have made any difference), and he refused citing "other plans".
All that being said... pay attention to your instincts. If something in "your gut" says things are "off", they probably _are_. Don't talk yourself out of action simply because it "seems unlikely". Keep your head on a swivel, and notice the world around you.
How is Matt these days? He escaped getting murdered, had the right intuition to keep Cassie out of harm's way and talked to one of the killers right before the murder. How do you cope after such an experience? As for the two scumbags, you can only throw away the keys to their cells.
The clip of the two of them in school chatting was cut too short. One of their classmates comes into the frame and starts joking around with them for a while. They weren't social outcasts or bullied or anything, I feel like that adds to their wickedness.
I agree 👍 💯
First thing after viewing That Chapter I went to the bathroom and actually tried saying let's give it a goo in front of the mirror in the dark (and illuminated) but I kept chuckling and giggling every time. Couldn't give one goo to save my life but to be honest and in all fairness the devil's lettuce might've been involved. We've laughed our asses off and feeling great! Many thanks for that. Great episode mate, as per usual.
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Needed a new chant for shooting butt biscuits, thanks!
Cringe
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this case really freaked me out and made me watch my friend circle. how scary Cassie thought they were friends while those arseholes were plotting the whole time. Cassie will always be remembered ❤
The two flipping each other the bird at the end, was freaking awesome!!!! 😀😀
Torey's parents are two really sad people. They're not only in denial about what their son did, but they delude themselves into believing they love him. They don't love him. Love is accepting someone's faults, acknowledgeding who they are(good or bad) and loving them in spite of that. They're in love with some idealized fantasy of their son. Something he never was, and likely never will be. The guy's a murderer. An unrepentant one at that. If they really loved him they'd admit that to themselves and stop pandering to his delusions.
Exactly. Well said. And also I think they know that they in some way shaped him to be this way. Admitting his guilt would also be admitting theirs.
Well said!
If only we could charge Torey's parents for refusing to hold their son accountable for his actions, he clearly learned that mindset from them. Bad parenting can exacerbate seriously unhinged individuals.
They kinda give me the vibe of the mom who defaced Junko Furuta's grave because she 'ruined her sons life'
So true 👍. Very well said. Chris Watt’s parents do this also.
@@sasha5527 *JOSH POWELL'S CREEPY @SS DAD, TOO!* (his son locked the CPS worker out the house, killed his sons with an axe, set himself and the house on fire)
You can just look into his eyes and see he's evil.
They both are, but I tend to believe the other dude is more of a follower. Seems like kind of a moron.
Torey would do it again if he got out. Can just tell that dude loves dancing with the devil
Those parents are *delusional*. Did they not even watch the videos?
It makes me so so mad knowing how scared she was when those lights went out. How the heck could anyone do this?? It truly takes monsters to do this type of thing.
I really hope they are never released (even if prison is too soft for them). They both have psychopath faces and ONLY want to be paroled one day (Brian by saying he is a better person / Torey by denying).
This is one of the most insane videos you have ever done, one of the hardest videos to watch. Makes me sick to my stomach. Those videos they made were so disturbing on another level.
Just a separate comment to Mike...
The ending of those two was hysterical. Leave it to you to find this and most of all, Lightening up the moment of a very, very sad case!! I love ya too, Mike! 🥰
Happy Halloween 🎃
I remember this case, completely sad. Sick punks. I'll never understand why or how anyone can do something like they did, especially to someone close to them 😞
Here she was just living her good like as a responsible kid. 💔
Absolutely obsessed with your channel, Mike! You do such an amazing job! The effort you put into each video is recognized by us all. Thank you!
06:51 WOW! That got me. Got me good gave me chills. Was not expecting that from this channel.
I did time in ISCI (for possession) with Brian. I knew he was in for murder, but I never asked him for the details because I didn't want to know. He was a good friend to me- we worked out together, he let me use his mp3 player, let me play his guitar, helped me to accept my situation, etc. I can agree with Mike's assessment that Brian really does feel bad for what he did. It's a long story but I'll leave it at that. Torrey though... I never met him because he was in Max- a completely different yard. That being said, take note:
If you notice the later interviews with Brian and Torrey: Brian is wearing a blue collared shirt whereas Torrey is wearing orange. This is because the uniform in ISCI is a blue collared shirt, blue jeans and whatever shoes you can afford. Max inmates on the other hand wear orange scrubs. So Torrey must not have ever improved his behavior- not by the time I hit ISCI anyway.
I was shocked to learn the details of Brian's crime (from a podcast) upon my release. It's hard for me to imagine Brian doing those things.. yet apparently he did. All around, it's a heartbreaking story. I feel for the Stoddard family and offer them my sincerest condolences.
Thank you for the update. The way you described Brian is how I had figured it out too. He seems genuinely remorseful. Tory on the other hand has enabling and in denial parents...they are enabling him to not take responsibility and therefore, not change. Only when one is honest with themselves about the depth of depravity they are capable of, can one really be ready to change past behaviors. Prayers for all, including both boys, for healing and change.
Thanks for the input regarding your knowledge of Brian and the uniform colors. Very interesting. I think it's very telling that Torey isn't a good prisoner. I don't know if I believe Brian has changed. He could be a model prisoner and still have psychopathic traits. Admittedly, his apologizing and acknowledging his crimes is a step in the right direction. Also, Brian didn't ask for sympathy by telling you about his past. He was friendly and helpful with you and wasn't expecting anything in return. That's a clear sign of maturity. As for Torey, he seems like a coward and an instigator. The type who expects to be coddled regardless of how egregious his actions. Mr. and Mrs. Adamcik don't want to face the fact that they raised a monster. Good luck to you now and in the future.
@@killjoy9797 I agree 💯 with your observations.
Cody I forgot to wish you good luck and God bless in the future!
Idk bro l, Brian seems like he was very happy and very willing to kill Cassie in those videos and almost seemed like the “ring leader”. But hey, who knows
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I hear ya but it Brian seemed like a kid that just wanted to fit in…an easy mark for a psychopath. The tape of him breaking down in the interview, thinking this was all a twisted joke. I don’t know, but I don’t think he was the instigator. Sadly neither of them seem very intelligent but at least Brian seems remorseful, at least to me. Of course it doesn’t excuse what they did.
I'd love to see a follow up video to see how tough these psychos think they are after spending some time in prison. There aren't good enough words to describe how awful and sickening this is.
Their anuses are being probed hopefully.
Uhmm.. the last like minute or two of the video shows how they feel years later. It's literally in this video. Also torey was the Dom and Brian was the sub in the power dynamic. Brian was the shy timid awkward teen who just wanted to fit in and torey ate him up.
@@bryanm255 bullshit, Brian is a sick twisted murderer too. Remorse can be faked, he is just sorry for what he has lost not for her and what he did to her.
@@samalamadingdong1317 he is a sick individual. Did I say he should be let out of jail? No I didn't there are other videos that show he was not the mastermind.
However bad it is, it's still way better than they deserve.
I’m not saying everyone should go leave 1 star scathing reviews on the mom’s book on Amazon but that’s exactly what I’m saying.
So her son witnessed a murder and tried covering it …because “it was a film”❓❗️
I’d leave a one star review just for the title *not* being: *” I’m making money off of my bad parenting.”*
Thanks Mike. I've seen this story elsewhere. Yours is the best, you presented facts I was unaware of. Love you, stay beautiful:)
Thanks for supporting Mike
Poor Cassie. I hope her parents find some peace in this life.
Kids killing kids, sad world. This story has always stuck with me for some reason, every detail, it makes me super sad to be honest. She had her whole life ahead of her, if only she took up the offer of staying over her boyfriends that night, maybe she would still be alive. :'(
I'm actually really surprised she didn't call her parents or her aunt and uncle. I used to babysit and house sit as a teen and definitely would have called if there were weird things like that happening. This was just an unfortunate perfect storm of bad circumstances. I couldn't go on if I were her mom.
I remember when this happened. I'll never forget how horrible Torey's parents are as people.
Our darling lad would never do such a thing! Amazing how blinkered parents can get.
@@johnsoens5185 Deep.
@@johnsoens5185 Troll
And yet they are so deluded that they genuinely believe they are good people, who raised a good son, who was simply led down a bad path... meaning he did nothing wrong.
I want to force them to watch replays of what the two boys did over and over, a la A Clockwork Orange... i dont see any other way of making them see. 😔
This case has always made my stomach turn. Especially because of the recordings. Absolutely horrible 😞
@@johnsoens5185 how deep are u in true crime? I bet your mother is in your freezer. Get a new hobby troll
What is wrong with you ? LOL
The fact the dogs reacted ,means they weren't imagining anything
She had to leave at that point. Forget everything else. You always go with your gut and she didn't.
Dogs are unbelievably perceptive and insightful. They are the very embodiment of "creatures of habit" and if anything is out of place or their routine is disturbed, you'll know all about it. My late dog was the same - he would bark at nothing (which wasn't nothing to him), or start to become restless 10-15 minutes before a family member came home, or if you were slightly late taking him for his evening walk he kicked up a fuss and started pestering you (going early wasn't a problem for some reason).
We don't fully understand them. They can and do teach us a lot.
Yeah you're really observant, she fucking got killed so... yeah they weren't imagining anything.
@@deadinthewater218 ikr. Grab the pups, 3 cats, and leave with Matt when his Mom came to pick him up.
@@halfbakedproductions7887 my dog was actually howling, the other day, about 5-10 minutes before I got home.
I don't know how they know, but they do..
Dogs can smell extraordinarily well, too.
No doubt they smelled those two morons, faffing about, down in the basement..
"I imagine it can get pretty awkward seeing your buddy from across the yard...🖕🖕"
Mike kills me 😂😂😂
And that video clip of the 2 guys throwing air punches had me rolling!! I love how Mike brings some humor to these dark tales.
We missed you Mike, I hope your time off was relaxing, you deserve a break from being awesome all the time.
Tori’s parents are in serious denial. As a teenager, you are both the person you are in front of your parents and the person you are with your friends. The only difference is that most of don’t kill our friends. What a couple of absolute idiots (I would say C**** but Mike did it for us). Rest In Peace, Cassie. I feel for her and her family. That must’ve been so terrifying in her last moments.
Thanks for all of your hard work, Mike. Never feel bad about taking a break. We missed you but you are this channel so make sure to take care of yourself. We'll be here when you get back...every time!!!
That ending clip of the two friends flicking each other off was perfect & hilarious!!
Heart wrenching for her parents. Prayers and thoughts go out to them. 💕🙏🏻
I'm trying to catch up on my days off . I love this channel.. Mike is awesome even I can sleep after watching at night because the way he tells it.
man I hate parents like that. Even after all the video footage they go "oh my baby could never hurt a fly!" I hate parents that blindly defend their children. Just cuz they're your blood doesn't mean they aren't human and are under the same scrutiny as everyone else.
all over that kids face was the truth..sad and sick. hes like yeah man its like..oh yeah what they said..
Seems he wants to move forward..Seems they wont allow it. She like its all the same lol ohhk sure lol that's not good.
they would have to accept it to thou if he did, that's not gonna go to great.**shortened it. :)
soo ick and I 2nd your statement.
I will never forget this case back when I 1st heard of it, the violence inflicted on beautiful Cassie was atrocious, I pray those two psychopaths NEVER see freedom
Amen sister
Quite Mikely, we're all happy you've returned safely from your time off! 💞
I feel so much for the boyfriend and mum. The boyfriend because I imagine he'd blame himself (even though he absolutely shouldn't!) for leaving/ not insisting on Cassie and the animals come with and the mum for being angry at Cassie for not responding as that would be heartwrenching with hindsight
Even when you cover stories I know, it's like the first time all over again. You really do make great content. Keep it up Mike!
Just saw that I had a new notification and was thinking "Damn I really hope it's That Chapter"
Needless to say that Mike made my day, yet again! 💯
Ive been with ya, Mike, from almost the very beginning and u continue to improve and impress. Thank u Mike
Explore With Us did an amazing job covering this too! Great segment, again!
Great to see you back Mike!! 🙂
Welcome back Mike! I missed you!! I appreciate you and your content so much! Keep up the amazing work. You're very talented! ❤️
Even tori is looking at his mom like “ is this for real? Hasn’t she watched the videos?”
🦋Hey Mike😘 Just want to let you know that I appreciate the last clip of the “ seeing your buddy from across the yard”. This is a very tragic case BUT I am always grateful for your ability to put a smile on my face even through discussions that are ultimately very, very sad 😔
For anyone who got confused when the killers said they would probably be up in Cassie's room; the teen cousin who found her also is named Cassie.
Why did they say there was a young girl dead on the floor? Maybe bc they were generalizing it just seems awfully impersonal and it be your cousin/niece on the floor.
Maybe they couldn't identify her bc she was so messed up.
Those guys are just so cringe. What ridiculous creations they are.
@@cw6621 Likely due to shock or because she was unidentifiable at a glance. They used knives, so it was a very bloody scene.
@@cw6621 I was wondering that too.
Yeah if I saw something like that I wouldn't want to look and would just get away and ring emergency services so that may have been wishful thinking that it wasn't her.
Most of us true crime freaks are extremely aware of this story; however, you added in a couple things at the end that I wasn't aware of. Plus it was done in Mikey style, which is always my fav! ❤
I never thought I'd be chuckling while listening to true crime stories! Gotta keep a light atmosphere and Mike is the best!
Absolutely.
The very end, Mikey style. So good.
I put off watching this one until now, because it’s a story I’ve read/watched about 100 times. I’m only halfway through and now I wished I had watched sooner. Nobody does it like Mike!
Sometimes, the only way I know it's Tuesday or Friday is because of Mike's uploads! Thanks for your consistency❤
Me too♥️
Thanks for getting to this one Mike. I messaged you on last December about it, not sure if you ever saw that or not, but this happened 45 min away from where I have lived all my life so it really kinda hits home