and when they do this action in ~NOT CALLING -----NO CONTACT..?~...............they can stick that in unknown places of their anatomy if so wished .. my ppl stay loyal
I just wanna say, to my childhood best friend: thanks for just ghosting me and blocking me on all social media and not murdering me when you didn’t want to be my friend anymore
The fact that Skylar's last words were "why...?" just absolutely breaks my heart. I can't even begin to imagine what she was feeling in those moments. Utterly heartbreaking.
@@lymmy9609 Define "rehabilitation". What does that look like for Shelia Eddy? The whole class is on pins and needles to find out. Thing is, once somebody has proven themselves capable of inflicting 50 stab wounds on a supposed "friend", that tends to put a damper on the whole "trust" thing. Personally, professionally, no matter, even if she Did get parole, it's not like she would have an array of options in polite society. Employers, landlords, financial institutions, insurance companies, stock brokers, educators, creditors, freelance platforms - none of these people would ever feel safe accepting her, so where does that leave her? Some seedy hotel room in the bad part of town, with a coin toss between becoming a prostitute or drug dealer, changing rooms occasionally when the cops start watching the place once traffic gets too heavy. Whichever direction between those two routes [or if they're merged together] remember at the end of the day - when the session is done and the last crack rock's been smoked, you must never turn your back. That woman has a psycho-clown smile that rivals John Wayne Gacy, and I promise you, it hasn't changed one bit, since the day she murdered Skylar Neese.
@@ATRaine if she gets out she would be right back inside like you said some crime's are looked down on.. This was her best friend she stab you in the back in a second so who will hire her or even deal with her?
neither girl should have been given the option of parole. according to their stories they TALKED ABOUT killing this young lady before they committed the murder, thus PREMEDITATION.
That's not how their local law works. Sheila got 1st degree murder which premeditation falls under, but rachel got 2nd degree for her cooperation with the investigation and taking the plea deal. Parole was just an act of mercy, but chances of actually going on parole is pretty slim.
Also the fact that they had a shovel, change of clothes and bleach in the trunk all point to premeditated murder! I agree they should have life in prison without the chance of parole! Also I think it was an obsession that they had ... Some kind of some sick fantasize about killing someone and getting away with it... I don't think they murdered her cause she knew their secrets I think it was something they fantasized about together and wanted to do it!
I think it's pretty obvious why Rachel Shoaf only got 2nd degree murder. The police and FBI were baffled, and didn't have a suspect until Shoaf turned herself in, told the whole story, and took police to the body. If she didn't do that, they might not have solved the case.
@j mula When someone turns themselves in and gives the police vital information that solves their case, and so gets a lower sentence in return, how is that 'female privilege'?
The poor dad just sounds completely defeated. His voice and mannerisms, it's like he's catatonic and just numb at this point and done with life. I feel terrible for him, wish I could give him a hug. 😢
Jaclyn Lessard, yep - so terribly sad. The trauma of losing a child under such horrific/violent circumstances (and, in this case, his only child), would be enough to turn anyone completely numb and utterly depressed. My heart broke hearing his victim impact statement.
For real I absolutely felt his pain and how devastated he was. He's a wonderful dad and you can tell how much he cares and is so beside himself with hurt. I wanted to hug him so badly. This was so incredibly senseless and very tragic. It must have felt good hearing the life sentence but it's no justice. It's justice for the fact they are young so to spend the rest of your life in jail when your only a teen is kind of justice but it doesn't bring their baby back. Those were two incredibly loving parents. I've watched the 2020 episode on this case and watched the court trial and always wanted to reach out to them. My heart broke when I watched this
I'm relieved to read this. I actually felt the same about the wanting to hug him part during the video, every time his face appeared on screen and you could hear him talking I felt so freaking bad that I really just couldn't explain it
Honestly i used to think having friends (alot fo friends) was a good thing but ive seen these cases and all and now im like no i would rather be by myself lol
Unfortunately this seems to happen every decade. It happened in the 80s with Missy, 90s with Shada Sharer. Almost similar ways these girls lives were taken by their “friends.” The best advice I can give is if you’re having an argument off and on with your friend and they call you at night and wanna go for a drive to talk, don’t go, they’ll take you somewhere into the woods or a secluded area, it won’t end well. You can talk in the morning.
@@dezgarrett2790 oh... I meant those two murdering girls... how they're useless... not the thousands of innocents in jail over bogus weed charges. I guess that wasn't all clear in my original comment.
They probably tried to touch her in ways they shouldn't have and she wasn't having it so they killed her. She probably did run in the woods but just to get away from them. They should get whipped in prison then add some alcohol to the cuts as a reward for killing others.
Look into the Anthony Fucci case. Kid where I live killed a girl by stabbing her to death and then jumped on social media and laughed about it. The Devil walks among all of us, It's up to us as Human beings to make sure he doesn't corrupt any other child!
One lesson to take away from this: Don't chase someone who drops you for a new friend. Even if they aren't killers like this, someone who will drop you at the tip of a hat like this is not worthy of your friendship.
They are happy. They get to continue being best friends living in the same prison. That's what pisses me off (along with the bullshit sentences). They are probably braiding each other's hair right now as we watch this. And knowing them, laughing while they reminisce about "the best 46 min of my life".. before banging each other.
@@angelikapotree2741 Shelia got 20. Rachel got 15 for coming forward with the truth, and then cooperating with the police to try and get Shelia to confess, and testifying against her in court.
Man! My thoughts exactly. I was "satisfied" with their sentences and everything seemed fine...up until that point, where I wanted to punch someone out of frustration. Aargh! >_
Nah you gotta admit he was a shit dad. A good one would've spotted the literal shit that those girls were and either raised his daughter to learn to spot and avoid that or actually intervened himself and just made her stop fucking with them
@@dankone3 lead a horse to water and all that. Peer pressure trumps home training often. Your parents have to love you (typically) but the approval of your peers needs to be constantly earned in adolescents.
Could you imagine the conversations they had behind her back about killing her? It's mad to me that people actually think it's a good idea to kill and think they can get away with it..
The purpose of the lawsuit against the killer girls and their parents isn’t actually based on the belief that the parents are responsible. It’s to prevent them or the girls from ever being able to profit financially from the story-so they settle for a large sum of money and other undisclosed legal terms so if the family ever does write a book, do interviews, or a documentary etc that money will go to the families of the victims instead of the perpetrators. It’s actually a quite common legal strategy in high profile cases.
Life with possibility of parole after serving 15 years. So they'll be up for parole by the time they're in their early early 30s. Hopefully, the family and the courts will keep their murdering asses in jail for their entire lives where they deserve.
Parole eligibility for Sheila was 15 years (natural life sentence which she would serve if she is never approved for parole) and for Rachel it was 10 years (but can serve no more than 30 years) Rachel got a lighter sentence for admitting to it. Also they cannot be released earlier than 10 and 15 years. Parole is firm for attempted murder convictions like this. You must serve the minimum before parole is even considered. So no they won’t get out after 7.
@@UnholyDeath100 ^ Then its not Justice. For example in my Home Russia, those 2 girls would have been sent to a gulag to work on simple products until they died of old age. They will never know anything but work until they die. We used to just shoot them but figured we may as well get free labour from these monsters.
I got severely bullied in middle school when my best friends decided they wanted to get in with the popular girls. I'm glad they just humiliated me instead of murdering me. Jesus Christ that poor man sobbing broke my heart.
Kids can be so cruel...I remember my best friend dumping me because of some new kid I guess he thought was cooler than me. I remember that depression. I made sure I got out still ...and I found new friends. I went through that alone...I wish I was my father spent more time checking on me.... boys need someone they can lean on.
He also knows it was partly his fault. He should have looked better after his daughter. If my girl was twitting stuff like that and getting drunk and high at 16, I would feel like I'm a failed parent.
It was his only child, and his wife probably can't have more children at this point which makes it even worse. Also, the girl has zero emotion on her face, a true sociopath.
Thats the only reason they were crying, definitely for just themselves!!! They spent almost an entire year afterwards, pretending to Dave and Mary's face ' that they were innocent and had no clue as to what happened! They are EVIL 👺
Actually Rachel was actually remorseful, probably cause she realized she is going to prison, but her tears were real. The other girls were fake. When someone truly cries it usually is human nature to try and hide it, while those who want sympathy do it while starring at the person they want sympathy from.
I'm surprised that you didn't mention the fact that Shelia, prior to Skylar's parents realizing that she and Rachel had lied, had visited Skylar's parents crying and asked to visit Skylar's room which they allowed her to do... While it's unknown why or what she did in there, I believe she wanted to relive the murder in some way. Sheila is a true sociopath and should NEVER be released from prison.
Supposedly skylar had a journal, and in it she had wrote about walking in on Sheila and Rachel having sex at the drunken sleepover. That's exactly what Sheila was looking for.
Sheila got LIFE IN PRISON with POSSIBILITY for parole AFTER 15 years. I understand your feeling over this case, but please stop spreading misinformation.
@@elizapipemaster4200 Possibility of parole after 15 years. That means she's serving 15 years unless she kills somebody else in jail. There's no misinformation.
In my country (Sweden) in 2009, two 15 year olds (a boy and a girl) deliberately planned and brutally murdered another 15 year old girl. They were sentenced to 18 MONTHS in a juvenile facility and are now living comfortably with new identities.
The reason why the Neeses sued those girls’ parents is to make sure the evil conniving jailbirds will never be able to make money out of Skylar’s story, I think. I read that somewhere.
pretty much, suing them for 5 million when they know they will never pay that is just to ensure that if the parents of the girls ever wanted to write a book or were paid for a tv appearance or anything then all that money would immediately go to the neeses
Exactly. Life in correction or lethal injection. Murderers have no place walking free. Literal Backstabbers. I feel so sad for the father, and so angry at the justice system.
@FESERFACE I feel like there is no point in punitive justice in a political and moral sense. But its so hard to feel that in the face of murderers isnt it.
@@wolfafterdark see I believe everyone should have a second chance if they deserve it. The girls clearly show no remorse but some murderers might feel guilt for what they did
@@louissykes2406 I think that "feeling remorse for killing a girl in cold blood" and "wanting to be free after killing a girl in cold blood" are mutually exclusive feelings. If they truly felt remorse for what they did, they would know that they are too dangerous for the outside world
I've seen this case covered quite a few times and I just wanted to say that I appreciate how you formatted it. You wove things in as they happened instead of as it was discovered during the course of the investigation, and I really think that helped the clarity of this case.
I think the sickest thing is that in an extended interview Skylar's parents revealed that Sheila spent a bunch of time with the parents after Skylar was declared both missing and dead. Sheila would turn up at the house to help with stuff and cry with them, occasional saying something cryptic about Skylar's disappearance. The worst kind of human (and I use the term human loosely)
Sheila's behaviour is such typicall for murderes and criminal behaviour AFTER crime. There are many many cases where suspects where helping victim's family/parents and even the police in the case. This is common and psychologist says that this is somehow "helping" guilty persons not to feel bad and not to feel guilty for what they did. This si psychological mechanism, like "washing away the sins".
The nerve of Shiela to taunt the family who just lost their baby by tweeting “we really did go on 3” referring to them counting to 3 before stabbing her 50 times😠 No remorse
@@kellyharris8976 I am 43 & it is soooo pathetic when you think about what we worried about in high school! Trying to convince my girls of that and they give me the same look I gave at their age 🤣
@@jfraserfisher it's so hard. My daughter is only 12. Thry have more to deal with these days due to internet too. I don't allow her to have social media. I caught her a couple times.. they need to understand the dangers of these predators online too.
It disturbs me when parents say they forgive someone who brutally murdered their child. Like maybe I could get if it was an accident/drunk driver even, but specifically Singling my child out to callously and brutally take her life? NOPE. I believe in forgiveness and second chances but some things are truly evil and in no way a mistake or lack of judgement. Just PURE EVIL and absolutely does not warrant forgiveness.
@@jennifercusnier339 exactly! an accident is one thing, but these girls knew what they were doing and decided to take her life in such a brutal way, there's nothing to forgive.
@the Emperor of man that won't happen ever because by law no one be recharged for the same crime ! Sadly that is the way it is ! They should have been sentenced with the death penalty ! But most states that have the death penalty don't seem to execute anyone anymore ! So our tax dollars has to pay for everything for them until they die of old age ! Their food , clothes , bedding roof over their heads , schooling and much more ! I think that I have said enough !
@@Dr.JeremyDunks Sheila is hot, yup. But, women do less time regardless. Doesn't matter if they are white or whatever. The most important thing to have is money. Just look at OJ Simpson. Money talks, man.
Similar case happened in this town. I met a young woman whose sister was murdered by two female classmates. Her sister had been invited by these two girls to go swimming up at Crystal Fall. The sister was hesitant to go but felt sorry for these girls who seemed like the outcast in school. The police notified the mother saying her daughter had drowned but one detective said it looked suspicious how she drowned. No one was ever charged. I’d love to have this case investigated to see what caused the detective to say it looked suspicious.
They should've gotten death penalty.. when it's proven like 100% that someone (or in this case more than one person) is a murderer, they need to get death penalty. Prison life is sometimes not as bad as it is made out to be.. sure, it's worse than having freedom. But in prison, you can make friends sometimes rather than just enemies.. you get free food and free healthcare in prison.. and unfortunately, sometimes murderers actually get let out of prison after a certain amount of time. These two girls are supposed to possibly be released at some point. And taxpayer money goes into things such as keeping evil monsters like Rachel and Shelia alive.
My thoughts exactly! Would have been nice to get an update on them like, are they allowed contact with one another, are they in the same unit, are they still "friends" etc... like, how much outrage do I need to feel here🤷🏽♀️
These girls could have just said they'd rather not hang out with her anymore, but they were so worried about their secrets getting out that they ruined their lives away by robbing Skylar of hers. This is such a tragic and heartbreaking story.
In college my best friend ghosted me and cut me out of his life because his girlfriend didn't like me. I used to be kind of bitter about that but you know what? It's fine. It's totally fine now.
I helped in the search for Skylar. Motown is very close to the town I'm from. It was horrible to find out what really happened to her by the hands of her so called best friends. I can't remember but I commented a few weeks ago on a TH-cam channel to cover Skylar's story. Thank you Mike as always for telling Skylar's story ♥
I'm from West Virginia, too and I remember when this was happening. I lived in the eastern panhandle, though so I was too far away. Bless you for searching. What a terrible fate for a beautiful, intelligent young woman. To be killed by your so-called friends because they... "didn't like"her anymore... it's just so senseless. RIP Skylar.
@@elizabethsedai854 I live in the North Central part of WV. Even if you shared all the posts about Skylar or took the time to read about Skylar that is you helping. There's so many ways people help out but think that their not when anything big or small helps go along way.🖤
Note: sheila got off on hitting animals with her car. That kind of callous, HEARTLESS disregard for the pain and suffering of others is a warning of a deeply disturbed individual.
I’m absolutely terrified of accidentally hitting/running over an animal with my car, I can’t even imagine wanting to do it on purpose. Absolutely disgusting.
One life loss, and two lives thrown away for absolutely no reason. One thing I keep trying to get into my nieces' and nephews' heads is that actions have consequences and stopping and thinking for at least 5-10 seconds could stop you from doing, or saying, something you can't take back. Very sad. I feel horrible for the Neeses and hope they can one day find peace.
“My little girl is something you can’t close” Even thinking of losing any of my children brings me to tears. The pain her parents will always be in is unfathomable. They are the ones being punished with a life sentence without the eligibility for parole.
I don't even have children and the thought of something like that horrifies me. I cannot even begin to imagine the level of pain 😔 You are so right about the parents being punished with a life sentence that they didn't deserve.. a nightmare that never ends and will continue on for the rest of their lives.. it's so unfair 😞
I dont have children either, but I've talked to alot of parents and all of them agree that a parent should never bury their children. Such a sad thing to go through....i hope they don't get to have parole.
@Ian Dog they are out if they make 'parole,' hopefully they will not The actor Kelsey Grammars younger sister was kidnapped...raped and murdered in cold blood. There were several men involved. The one who did the murder was up for parole. Had the nerve to write Kelsey to ask him to write a letter to have him released. Kelsey did not. He did say he forgave him but could not see him being released. How could one forgive a cold blooded murdetet? He also lived through his father being murdeted... No I could not gorgive... life goes on but it will never be eady... so sad
The dad's testimony made me tear up. I cannot IMAGINE what he feels or what he thinks about the loss of his daughter. I don't know him, but my heart pours out sorrow for him.
Yeah I know what its like to be ostracized from a small group of supposed friends. I regret all the times I felt sorry for myself and am now grateful they never tried to kill me.
@@yoyo2ma - Hey, you're a good person, you didnt deserve that. Young people are just so scared they are literally always chicken shit scared and will do cruel things sometimes because some asshole bully has control in certain situations. I hope you have found some real friends.
@@doracampos2088 It's not really about that though. If you look at the 2 girls wildly different behavior after the murder. Rachel tries to forget about what happened and act like nothing happened. She can't think about the fact she murdered her best friend. Sheila goes around getting closer to the family trying to make herself look innocent. Sheila was afraid of getting caught. Rachel was afraid of what she did. That being said the prison didn't look like they were doing their job. They both were happy wearing make up looking like they were enjoying themselves.
Thank goodness a TH-cam Armchair McPsychiatrist showed up to do what real physiatrists are forbidden to do; diagnose people based on a video, without ever actually meeting them...
Generally when a victims family sues their killer like that, it's to prevent them from being able to gain monetarily for their crimes (selling movie rights, writing books etc)
There are laws in place that prevent them from making money off of that stuff already. They can't make any money from any of that stuff..They put a stop to all that a while ago.
These two girls were sorry that they got caught, not because they murdered another human being who had been their friend. Until the heat was turned on them, they didn't care Skylar was dead. They showed no real remorse for their actions. Their crying, to me, was their fear of going to jail, nothing more. I hope they never get released. Skylar's father is right, those two should rot in hell. Mike, this was one of the toughest videos for me to watch. It was the material that made it difficult to watch, not your presentation of it.
A true mark of a sociopath. No remorse, playing the victim, inserting yourself into the investigation in order find out what the police know, etc. Hopefully she never gets out of prison, she's the kind of person that just sucks the life out of everyone around her.
@@carlosmatos9848 Absolutely! I agree with you 💯 She is a female Bundy; as far as behavior. She truly thought she was getting away with it and figured she was smarter than everybody.
It's most likely ones a psychopath (I'm guessing Sheila) and the other one is a sociopath that was manipulated and developed a sociopath personality due to the psychopath.x
The parallel you provided by using the clip of Shelia and Rachel in the car confessing the minor car accident (with shock and awe) to them being sentenced is SO VERY SATISFYING for my obnoxious attention to detail. I applaud you, fine Sir!
She did know their secret. I dont know how lesbianism will affect their high school life, but i guess its pretty terrifying. And they has triple privileges stacks so life sentence/execution will never be mention. That faces in woman prison? Daddy will "take care" of them for 5 years, maybe more. They gonna lick a lot of V.
Saw three other versions of this "story" previously. This is the only meaningful one, even though no real reasons could explain it. A really good narrator. So visible and sometimes colorful, but never making a game of the dispensing of whatever facts are available. I think he really captured the minds of those two as best as possible, and the entire situation over that long period of time. Thanks
Agreed. Stupid mistake. Murderers should never walk free. But we keep releasing them, and innocents will keep paying for it with their lives. No, once a killer, always a killer, and society needs to stop make-believing otherwise.
Apart from the obvious that everyone has expressed about this tragedy, none of the investigators should ever be involved with detective work ever again. 10 months to catch two high school girls when you have video of the missing girl getting into the backseat of one of their cars and never being seen again is just pathetic. One competent investigator would have had a confession an hour into the first interview.
@@Yes-iu3kr Sometimes yes. And sometimes this. Law enforcement f*cked this one up every which way. btw, "Skylar's Law: A West Virginia state legislator from the Neese family home district introduced a bill called Skylar's Law to modify West Virginia's Amber Alert plan to issue immediate public announcements when any child is reported missing and in danger, regardless of whether the child is believed to have been kidnapped."
when the dad was trying to speak in the courtroom, that tore me up immediately. I couldn't imagine having to go through something like this. My condolences to you and your family Mr. Neese. My heart goes out to you all.
Shelia was clearly the straight psychopath of the two. No anxiety over the situation whatsoever. Just remorseless ice. She definitely would've killed again.
@@eloiseockert6561 "Psychopathy is traditionally a personality disorder characterized by persistent antisocial behavior, impaired empathy and remorse, and bold, disinhibited, and egotistical traits." I think that fits pretty good, here.
@@eloiseockert6561 "Both lack empathy, the ability to stand in someone else’s shoes and understand how they feel. But a psychopath has less regard for others, says Aaron Kipnis, PhD, author of The Midas Complex. Someone with this personality type sees others as objects he can use for his own benefit. "
Hearing him read his statement to the court.....he was understandably choked up, but cant help but wonder how painful it musta been to write that. It musta been hours of torture. Eyes teared up to the point he couldn't see to write. Then tears and snot ruining the paper. That's what woulda hapPened if it were me. Hell, I woulda lost my mind long before
that's why it's important to be involved in your child's life and evaluate their friends. if they're bad influence you have to risk your child hating your for a while but at least they won't get dragged into something bad.
@@arenasification Skylar eas friends eith Dheila since the 2 wete very young Both Mary and David treated both Sheila and Rachel like daughters. You just NEVER really know.
Those pictures were probably taken the first day. If there is real justice, they are now in prison with some pretty hardened people. Those smiles will be wiped off of their face pretty quick.
Trust me. They're NOT gansta, as the kids say. But there are plenty of women in there who are and they had no idea what they were in for when they smiled. I'm sure they're not smiling now.
I've been binging for over a week and this is, hands down, the most heartbreaking one yet. Neither one of them should get the possibility for parole. As a parent who has lost a child (as an adult and not to murder, thankfully), my heart goes out to the Neese's. There is nothing that will ever fill that void.
These people commenting that Shelia's and Rachael's brains aren't fully formed yet, well obviously. Don't think that excuses what they did even a tiny bit, most teens don't kill people end of discussion.
Not sure if puberty itself play a role.. Malicious gossip, secrets, deceit, betrayal, contempt, ostracism, murder are also present in adult love triangles gone wrong.
@@pantsenfuego9986 exactly as you say, what kind of puberty hormones or any circumstances give an excuse to murded another person "just becasue they didn't like her anymore"? None. This case just makes me soooooo annoyed. Girls are so mean, it's just impossible... no wonder I never got along with "girl friends" ever, even in college, when you would think they have a little more brain than back in kindergarten, they still go behind your back.... but these guys? hah, they would deserve to rot in there for their entire life, no matter that they were "only teens", as long as they murdered that poor girl who thought they were friends.
Brains not fully formed you can say that again. They're unbelievably stupid. Gotta love the ignorance though to think they'd get away with it. Never mind ignoring the CCTV, announcing plans to murder her beforehand, suspicious behaviour like inserting themselves into the investigation, changing their story multiple times, allowing the victim to inflict wounds on them and then leaving the wounds visible to others, keeping their phones on them to allow data tracking, and finally thinking they could outsmart professionals with a flimsy rehearsed story.
@@maryjochapman3742 that would be amazing, but according to the Constitution that can't happen. You can't be tried twice for the same crime. Double jeopardy :/
If they were boys that's what would have happened. Males are treated MUCH more harshly than females in our courts - always have been. Our courts are extremely gynocentric and have ALWAYS favored women and rejected gender equality under the "law".
@misa smith I know from personal experience. I knew a guy (black male) who had a clean record, but was arrested for stealing a car for someone. He's serving life in prison. I also had a coworker who had two brothers both locked up for 20-40 years for being caught with weed in them. If you think the Justice system isn't racist, then you're just sound asleep.
It truly is, my kids are only 1 and 3 but it scares the shit out of me thinking of those teenage years to come and how VITAL it is going to be to make sure they have the right influences and that they have healthy mental states. its stresssul
I find it creepy how mundane and seemingly joking can our attitude be towards killing nowadays. If you trivialize death, at some point you might actually start thinking it's ok to take someone's life away, especially at such a young age when you haven't experienced deaths of your loved ones and don't know all the seriousness of losing somebody forever. I come from a rural area of an Eastern European country. As a kid, I never ever said to anybody or heard anybody else saying "I'll kill you" as a joke or goofing around. It was too serious a topic to treat as a joke or a game. Yes, we could tell horror stories about death and ghosts and such, but we never ever dared to actually threaten to kill someone. Fast-forward twenty years. Kids are watching stupid cartoons where characters hit each other deadly. Kids are getting angry and yelling at each other "I'll kill you" for every minor conflict. Is that normal? Ok, I don't want to sound like a grumpy grandpa, but still, there must be a line which we shouldn't have crossed. But we have and I'm not sure how we'll get back to the situation when children had more respect towards life and health of other people. I guess we lost the innocence at some point when the modern Western culture stormed in...
@cbr9292you Yes and no. The unbalanced use of what feminism stands for can be just as equally mindfucking as machism is. Just like how christians that deviate from the true goal of their religion is end up in pro life protests and "hugs before masks"
Finally the victims family aren’t hugging their child’s killers or forgiving them in court. You should never forgive for something like this, I hope they rot.
Yes! Skylar's father is just like Casey Anthony's father in that neither were with that forgiveness bullshit and I have respect for that. To hug the murderer of someone you love is a slap in the face to the victim imo.
There's a really insightful comment on this video that clears that up. Mike left out a part of the story: Rachel had been promised immunity, because at the time the police and prosecutors genuinely believed that the two girls did not murder Skylar. They told Rachel, basically "tell us what you know and we will not charge you with anything." They were expecting to hear about how Skylar left with some dude. Instead, Rachel confessed to the murder. But as it turns out, Skylar's body was found across state lines, so that state threatened her with 1st degree murder if her home state didn't charge her with anything. So she accepted/asked for a 2nd degree murder charge instead. Sheela(spell check) got the 1st degree.
i’m not law expert, but the one who confessed and pleaded guilty only got 2nd degree and the girl who pleaded not guilty not 1st degree. idk if it has any correlation but it’s something to think about.
It's every parent's worst fear. I have friends who have lost children to accidents and I can tell you, they are never the same. I do not know how I would even go through the motions of life, I wouldn't want to go on.
I have 4 daughters... I could never imagine losing any of them... This is such a heartbreaking tragedy, their only child. My heart goes out to the girl's parents. I can't believe those psycho girls are smiling in their mugshots. They're sickening.
The extremely light sentences these repugnant girls received are beyond bewildering and pathetic. They should never have the possibility of parole. They are narcissistic psychopaths that have no real remorse and obviously no problem lying and murdering people close to them for no reason. They cried at sentencing not because they felt bad for what they did...but for themselves and having to face consequences at all. Seeing their shite-eating grins in their prison photos is disgusting. They should never be released and should be held in an environment where they're not so obviously thriving with joy. They have learned nothing and have faced no real consequences as far as I can see. It's sad, grotesque, and shameful.
Right?? These 2 are absolutely fucking crazy and will continue to be a danger! They wanted and liked the idea of killing someone... Now the argument could be made that seperately they wouldn't of done anything and that together they brought out the worst in each other .... But I think there both really scary individuals
@Sniggledoms hell yes , I cannot tell you how many shit friends and heartache of various degrees I went through just because I wanted friends in my life!
Man I graduated high school 3 years ago, high school doesn’t matter. You will find friends and you’re going to laugh at how you thought high school was a big deal
consistency 14 As much as you’re trying to sound helpful,on the off hand you’re not being sarcastic or just a total dick,your advice sucks.No,not having friends is perfectly normal in many situations.Sure,prolonged isolation is wrong but if you’re introverted then;you do you. Yes,friendships And socialisation are a major part in young people,though every school has a different environment.Ultimately,some environments aren’t fit for those people to make friends because a)The friendship will just be a prank and the person leading them on b)they can’t find a group of friends they like and would fit into.Isolation is okay I think in those cases.I sure was for my first 2 years of secondary,with basically no real friends. Though that is the past and things have changed.Hell school life is not the only way to socialise.If a person has no friends at school,they can have them outside,e.g:a certain club outside of school or from meeting due to same/similar hobbies.
Yeah but they sold each other out too. They deserve eachother...we already know what they do to thier "friends" so I'm sure they will enjoy eachothers company for many years to come.
She felt left out... she had terrible fights with her 'friends' in social media... but STILL she wanted to hang out with those girls... Maybe other boys and girls can learn from this horrible case: if someone is giving you the shoulder... MAKE NEW FRIENDS. Don't insist on being friends with horrible people.
It's complicated, because like abusive romantic relationships, abusive friendships make you feel like no other person would have you, and it would be impossible to start over with new friends, especially when your abusers are at your school and will sabotage your efforts once you've dumped them.
Social media in this world has unfortunately turned into cancer for some. We have people who can't even function without their phone. Literally. These people are so desensitized to personal interactions because they live in their social media. Is social media to blame here? No. It's part of the tool. The evil that is in the minds of people is the true problem. Think about how much simpler and happier life would be if the cellphone was only just a phone and there was no social media platforms.
I’ve watched probably 95% of the videos posted by this channel over the past 5 years… this one case stands out to me more than any of the others. It makes me so sad when I see Skylars father talking about her
Mike, I realized the other day what I really love about your uploads is the fact that you get done in 10 minutes what takes a true crime TV show 30-60min!!! they constantly recycle and repeat the same clips, giving recaps every 5 minutes. in this 30 minutes episode, you covered the amount of info that would take a TV show 2 hours!
My kid got lost in our town for 1 1/2 hours and I thought I had lost my mind. I cannot even imagine what these folks have gone through. My heart truly bleeds for parents of missing kids.
@@urmomdotcom4039 the stupid thing that pisses me off tho, is when the cops found her, everyone in my family was like, oh did you yell at her for getting lost? Did you give her proper shit? You wanna know what I did when I saw my kid? Ran to her, fell on my knees and hugged her like I would never let go. I was so relieved. Who yells at a kid for being lost and then found? Satan? That thought never crossed my mind. What would those parents do if their kid was found alive? Yell at them? Give me a break.
Can't read too much into a photograph. It's one small moment in time captured. It doesn't give an insight into their day to day thinking or state of mind. I'm not saying they are full of feelings of guilt or remorse, just I wouldn't judge them on one photograph which shows them smiling
@@philwilson4167 exactly. smiling, being happy living their lives while the parents lost their ONLY CHILD. who, should I remember you, was killed by these two smiling individuals via stabbing. and they watched her die while she just asked "why?". that's why when they smile, I (and a lot of people) just feel like throwing up.
@@donniebelladonna4512 being happy living their lives?? They're in prison so not exactly happily living their lives are they. I'm pretty sure they're miserable given their circumstances. Which is what they deserve. As for their smiles, I suffered from depression about five years ago, but everyone I knew saw me apparently happy and smiling every day. You never know what's going on in someone's head, and can't judge based on one photograph, that's all I'm saying.
I got picked on, verbally, emotionally and physically all the way up until high school. It is sad that it went this far. This hit pretty home for me. As a mom and am abused person. What happened to this girl is I’m. Beyond words. I was that kid. I had no interest in other people. Because of her choices that were good for her.. she was killed. Show your kids this. So that they understand … being apart of the in crowd and friendships in school is not as important as one thinks. I lucked out. She didn’t..
@David Osborne That is very true. For some people, hate can be all consuming. Others can compartmentalize their negative feelings go on with their lives w/o forgiving. Both are fine. Forgiveness is a privilege only for the victims. It is their right to forgive or not to forgive. As for politics, I don't think that has anything to do with the OP's position.
@@rumplestilskinsmum5094 nobody said you weren't entitled to your opinion..... geez, butthurt fucking babies everywhere.. stop being offended by stuff you're putting into other people's mouths, it makes you look like a fucking moron
I think saying "too many parents forgive the killer" is a very counter-productive comment... it is _their_ pain that they have to live with, not _yours_ . You can't tell people how to handle their grief and loss. They are not the ones on trial... so don't treat them like it and have a little bit of respect in your words. You are addressing people who have lost their children with judgment for no benefit to you or them. Some people can only live with forgiveness because otherwise they would spend the entire rest of their lives seething in hatred. Let them have their peace.
I've seen a lot of videos about some of the stories he covers in other places, but he sometimes has more in depth information covering them. You could hear the pain and anger in her dad's voice when he read his victims impact statement. I can only imagine his pain. RIP beautiful girl💜
@@yohanscold2149 I guess two people can come up with the same joke then because I did not see that comment. I don't come to TH-cam comments to steal and repost other people's thoughts. Also, why are you so immediately hostile over something like this? Just an internet habit you fell into like 90% of people do? Well, aren't you the original one yourself?
@@MandleRoss who's more triggered this guy who wrote like 10 words or you who wrote a paragraph back with the tone of someone whos spitting mad hahahaha
Feel horrid for the murderers parents. Apparently they left the 2 alone they weren't in court. My son has been incarcerated for dumb stuff like becoming drunk on the mta busline : disorderly conduct. It overwhelmed me with his odd behavior He had gotten help and is working at his problems. But nothing like this thank God and I did not send $ to the commissary.
I’ve seen this and lived this before. You have a best friend who you’ve known since you were younger and suddenly a new girl comes along and she leaves you in the dust and starts to treat you like trash. If any younger girls are watching this just ditch the friendship, it’s not worth the pain and jealousy you’re gonna feel and you’re worth a whole lot more than that.❤️
You've seen and lived through your best friends murdering you? I don't mean to be rude but you have no idea what this girl went through. You can empathize but don't pretend this situation is similar to getting dropped by a friend.
@@marymartindale884thanks :) oh definitely I think that's exactly what they were saying I just didn't like the way they went about making the point. But its not really a big issue
When my friends got tired of me they just stopped calling. I have a whole new appreciation for that.
This is deep. It shouldn't be...but it is.
and when they do this action in ~NOT CALLING -----NO CONTACT..?~...............they can stick that in unknown places of their anatomy if so wished .. my ppl stay loyal
Right? Ghost me, please
Right, this case is just bizarre. I had friends, then we'd sometimes stop talking at some point. Not kill each other.. crazy
😆
I just wanna say, to my childhood best friend: thanks for just ghosting me and blocking me on all social media and not murdering me when you didn’t want to be my friend anymore
Damn, that still hurts. Im sorry.
no girl that's still disgusting behavior
Mine did the same. Trust me, we’re better off. ❤️❤️🤗
You don't need to thank someone for not violating your basic human right to live. That's backwards.
What I'm saying is, sorry that happened to you.
I liked the fact that the father sugar coated NOTHING!! He said what he meant, and he meant what he said.
An elephants true 100 percent
And I'm 16 secs in at rot in hell
@K Gray no he loved his daughter and only child! Big difference!
@K Gray how was he supposed to save her? By the time her parents knew she was missing she was dead.
@K Gray you stupid stupid eh.
I am a father, and hearing Skylar's father's voice, makes me cry every single time. I cannot imagine what he feels like to this day.
Heartbreaking.
Best wishes for u & ur family
He's probably over it by now, don't overdramatize it
@@사라-k8n Where are my best wishes
@@JeffreyBenzodiazepines don't reproduce
at least they got to wear matching outfits again
Cheeki Breeki: Good one! I wish I'd thought of it.
HAH
This needs more likes.
This 👍
Oh shit that was a good one😂😂.
the pain that dad is feeling it's almost transferable
So sad
One can tell that he was very close to his daughter.
If you felt it, it transferred ❤️
That "rot in hell" is so real. You can feel his anguish. Such a horrible sad thing to happen. She was so beautiful and loved
alexandra schuster you’ll never know the pain unless it’s happened to you. Trust that
The fact that Skylar's last words were "why...?" just absolutely breaks my heart. I can't even begin to imagine what she was feeling in those moments. Utterly heartbreaking.
That's the word that brought tears to my eyes. May her soul continue to rest in peace
Ah yes, betrayal is the most painful stab indeed and she knew who it was.
Same thought everyone has even after so many years.
i bet it was Rachael who remembered that.
"We just didn't like her."
I've been in mean girl situations in high school but this is like mean girls from HELL.
Sheila was a narcissist, psychopath. I hope she never gets out because that girl as young as she is, is very dangerous.
Hopefully she never gets parole.
If she's rehabilitated she should get out
@@lymmy9609 Define "rehabilitation". What does that look like for Shelia Eddy? The whole class is on pins and needles to find out.
Thing is, once somebody has proven themselves capable of inflicting 50 stab wounds on a supposed "friend", that tends to put a damper on the whole "trust" thing. Personally, professionally, no matter, even if she Did get parole, it's not like she would have an array of options in polite society. Employers, landlords, financial institutions, insurance companies, stock brokers, educators, creditors, freelance platforms - none of these people would ever feel safe accepting her, so where does that leave her? Some seedy hotel room in the bad part of town, with a coin toss between becoming a prostitute or drug dealer, changing rooms occasionally when the cops start watching the place once traffic gets too heavy.
Whichever direction between those two routes [or if they're merged together] remember at the end of the day - when the session is done and the last crack rock's been smoked, you must never turn your back. That woman has a psycho-clown smile that rivals John Wayne Gacy, and I promise you, it hasn't changed one bit, since the day she murdered Skylar Neese.
@@ATRaine if she gets out she would be right back inside like you said some crime's are looked down on.. This was her best friend she stab you in the back in a second so who will hire her or even deal with her?
Rachel too.
neither girl should have been given the option of parole. according to their stories they TALKED ABOUT killing this young lady before they committed the murder, thus PREMEDITATION.
That's not how their local law works. Sheila got 1st degree murder which premeditation falls under, but rachel got 2nd degree for her cooperation with the investigation and taking the plea deal.
Parole was just an act of mercy, but chances of actually going on parole is pretty slim.
beth kunze female privilege
Also the fact that they had a shovel, change of clothes and bleach in the trunk all point to premeditated murder! I agree they should have life in prison without the chance of parole! Also I think it was an obsession that they had ... Some kind of some sick fantasize about killing someone and getting away with it... I don't think they murdered her cause she knew their secrets I think it was something they fantasized about together and wanted to do it!
I think it's pretty obvious why Rachel Shoaf only got 2nd degree murder. The police and FBI were baffled, and didn't have a suspect until Shoaf turned herself in, told the whole story, and took police to the body. If she didn't do that, they might not have solved the case.
@j mula When someone turns themselves in and gives the police vital information that solves their case, and so gets a lower sentence in return, how is that 'female privilege'?
The poor dad just sounds completely defeated. His voice and mannerisms, it's like he's catatonic and just numb at this point and done with life. I feel terrible for him, wish I could give him a hug. 😢
Jaclyn Lessard, yep - so terribly sad. The trauma of losing a child under such horrific/violent circumstances (and, in this case, his only child), would be enough to turn anyone completely numb and utterly depressed. My heart broke hearing his victim impact statement.
If my children died, I'd probably kill myself. No lie. I can't imagine my girls going before me. 😭
For real I absolutely felt his pain and how devastated he was. He's a wonderful dad and you can tell how much he cares and is so beside himself with hurt. I wanted to hug him so badly. This was so incredibly senseless and very tragic. It must have felt good hearing the life sentence but it's no justice. It's justice for the fact they are young so to spend the rest of your life in jail when your only a teen is kind of justice but it doesn't bring their baby back. Those were two incredibly loving parents. I've watched the 2020 episode on this case and watched the court trial and always wanted to reach out to them. My heart broke when I watched this
@@sergeantspeed5941 same. I have 2 girls and can't even wrap my mind around them being gone
I'm relieved to read this. I actually felt the same about the wanting to hug him part during the video, every time his face appeared on screen and you could hear him talking I felt so freaking bad that I really just couldn't explain it
Suddenly, not having any friends doesn’t seem so bad.
Lone wolf for life
They weren't really friends.
Honestly i used to think having friends (alot fo friends) was a good thing but ive seen these cases and all and now im like no i would rather be by myself lol
Not all friends are the same. Just have to chose them carefully
It still suxs
Unfortunately this seems to happen every decade. It happened in the 80s with Missy, 90s with Shada Sharer. Almost similar ways these girls lives were taken by their “friends.” The best advice I can give is if you’re having an argument off and on with your friend and they call you at night and wanna go for a drive to talk, don’t go, they’ll take you somewhere into the woods or a secluded area, it won’t end well. You can talk in the morning.
Shana not Shada. Dumbass.
15 years??? There's people doing more time for being caught with weed.....
That's because they'd be just as useless in prison as they were outside of it.
@@AnjaliDandriyal what?
@@dezgarrett2790 oh... I meant those two murdering girls... how they're useless... not the thousands of innocents in jail over bogus weed charges. I guess that wasn't all clear in my original comment.
That’s a crime in itself. Weed is good for you.
Ikr 😂
The fact that they’re smiling in their pictures pisses me off even more.
Yep. Not a whole lot of remorse to be found there.
smangelchi I was just thinking that. They cried then smiled. Wtf
Psychopaths.
smangelchi clearly showing psychopathic tendencies !
They are serving in the same facility.. what does that tell you?
Sheila literally killed Skylar and then posts RIP and acts like she loved/loves her.... absolutely sickening.
Psychopath! How do you do that! 😡
Evil people only do that
@susan ivy How do you know this? When did Rachel get married??
They probably tried to touch her in ways they shouldn't have and she wasn't having it so they killed her. She probably did run in the woods but just to get away from them. They should get whipped in prison then add some alcohol to the cuts as a reward for killing others.
Look into the Anthony Fucci case.
Kid where I live killed a girl by stabbing her to death and then jumped on social media and laughed about it.
The Devil walks among all of us, It's up to us as Human beings to make sure he doesn't corrupt any other child!
One lesson to take away from this: Don't chase someone who drops you for a new friend. Even if they aren't killers like this, someone who will drop you at the tip of a hat like this is not worthy of your friendship.
True.
They are smiling for their prison photo
That made my blood boil
I know, smiling, wearing makeup and with their hair curled? How are they allowed to do any of that while in prison for murder?
I’m sure they wasn’t smiling for long
They are happy. They get to continue being best friends living in the same prison. That's what pisses me off (along with the bullshit sentences). They are probably braiding each other's hair right now as we watch this. And knowing them, laughing while they reminisce about "the best 46 min of my life".. before banging each other.
@@Heather-eh8ic what was that 46min tweet referring to? I didn't understand that
@@nr362 Sex?
The dad talking in court literally made me cry. I can’t imagine losing a child.
He is a fucking badass for showing his emotions and standing in front of a court room and those bitches.
@@GatoSanDad fuckin facts aye
The only child. And the murderer got parole in 15 years,.. Still young...
You will never be the same I am going through it as we speak. My child was murdered in 2019.
@@neneleach22 my condolences
Sheila was crying in court for herself, not for Skylar.
They always do
I was just about to comment that myself, its ridiculous for her to cry.
You can say that for Rachel too
Of course
Of course. They are like wolves in sheep’s clothing. Pure evil.
Skylar’s father kept breaking my heart into more & more pieces.
The only reason she's crying is because she was caught.
Exactly
@@daisymay6505 she got 15 years when reachel got 20? WTF
@@angelikapotree2741 Shelia got 20. Rachel got 15 for coming forward with the truth, and then cooperating with the police to try and get Shelia to confess, and testifying against her in court.
@@angelikapotree2741 She got life in prison with posibility for parole after 15, Rachel got 30 years with parole after 10.
Amen.
It really, really bothers me to see them smiling, hair done, make-up done in their prison jump suits like they are just at camp. Heartless.
they both should have got the Chair!
And Sheila hair is dyed. She's naturally blonde.
Man! My thoughts exactly. I was "satisfied" with their sentences and everything seemed fine...up until that point, where I wanted to punch someone out of frustration. Aargh! >_
@Joan Gifford .. hahaha. Extensions??? No honey in there they let their hair grow theres no boutique or hairstylist. Omg where u live??
I was thinking exactly the same thing...I blame social media it's created totally evil kids that think they are invincible....
Skylar's dad look like he'd beat the soul outta those girls...and I'd buy him a beer after
Nah you gotta admit he was a shit dad.
A good one would've spotted the literal shit that those girls were and either raised his daughter to learn to spot and avoid that or actually intervened himself and just made her stop fucking with them
@@dankone3 lead a horse to water and all that. Peer pressure trumps home training often. Your parents have to love you (typically) but the approval of your peers needs to be constantly earned in adolescents.
@@dankone3 that’s a normal thing especially in the south white girls do that a lot it’s almost apart of the culture
@Death From Above yes stranger in TH-cam comments section your opinion matters to me 😏 there I paid you attention for 15 seconds, you're welcome
I'd help him.
Could you imagine the conversations they had behind her back about killing her? It's mad to me that people actually think it's a good idea to kill and think they can get away with it..
Or to kill at all. She wanted to be a friend and they murdered her I hope hell is hot and dark.
the most heartbreaking thing to me is seeing how happily she ran to their car before getting stabbed and dumped in a forest
This part 😭
And how big those demons are GRINNING in prison
I definitely cried when I heard this case 😞😞💔
Yea pff... Probably happy they wanted to hang out again..
that broke my heart ...........OMG SHE WAS WALKING TO HER DEATH BY HER FIRENDS WHO TRUSTED THEM OMG SO SAD
I agree with the dad. Let them rot.
I agree too, sick fucks 😡
No. Too merciful.
@@OpiumBride
Nice bait.
If that meant executing them and leaving their body there... sure. But I figure it would really start to stink.
yeah they pretty much deserve that
Blessings to Mr. Neece for pledging to attend every parole hearing to keep his community safe from these monsters
The purpose of the lawsuit against the killer girls and their parents isn’t actually based on the belief that the parents are responsible. It’s to prevent them or the girls from ever being able to profit financially from the story-so they settle for a large sum of money and other undisclosed legal terms so if the family ever does write a book, do interviews, or a documentary etc that money will go to the families of the victims instead of the perpetrators.
It’s actually a quite common legal strategy in high profile cases.
15 years is nothing for taking a life. She denied it until the end. Her friend got more time for admitting it. This irritates me.
She got life not 15 years
Life with possibility of parole after serving 15 years. So they'll be up for parole by the time they're in their early early 30s. Hopefully, the family and the courts will keep their murdering asses in jail for their entire lives where they deserve.
I’m with you
Parole eligibility for Sheila was 15 years (natural life sentence which she would serve if she is never approved for parole) and for Rachel it was 10 years (but can serve no more than 30 years) Rachel got a lighter sentence for admitting to it. Also they cannot be released earlier than 10 and 15 years. Parole is firm for attempted murder convictions like this. You must serve the minimum before parole is even considered. So no they won’t get out after 7.
She'll be denied parole several times before a board even remotely considers setting her free.
Over 50 stab wounds and they stopped her as she tried to run away, there should be no leniency or mercy for that, they certainly didn't show her any.
Should be solitary confinement for 10yrs, then the firing squad.
@@MiraSubieGirl Modern criminal justice doesn't allow for what they REALLY deserve.
@@UnholyDeath100 ^ Then its not Justice.
For example in my Home Russia, those 2 girls would have been sent to a gulag to work on simple products until they died of old age.
They will never know anything but work until they die.
We used to just shoot them but figured we may as well get free labour from these monsters.
Honestly I admire Skylar, just for BEING ABLE to try to get away with 50 stab wounds like wtf bro she’s strong
@@MiraSubieGirl I quite like this
Sheila shouldn’t be let out ever again she’s a legit psychopath type
Mac a psychopath who stabs her “friend” for not liking her anymore. On top of that, plays buddy buddy with victim’s family. GTFOH
100% psychopath
Neither one should!
@Paul Miller
What is typical of
'lesbians.'
Paul Miller can u elaborate?
I got severely bullied in middle school when my best friends decided they wanted to get in with the popular girls. I'm glad they just humiliated me instead of murdering me. Jesus Christ that poor man sobbing broke my heart.
Kids can be so cruel...I remember my best friend dumping me because of some new kid I guess he thought was cooler than me. I remember that depression. I made sure I got out still ...and I found new friends. I went through that alone...I wish I was my father spent more time checking on me.... boys need someone they can lean on.
Love that for you lol
Ugh....Listening to Skylar's dad is always heartbreaking. This case is so twisted, those girls are certifiable phsycos!
This is Exactly why the Government needs to legalize lobotomies again!
Psychos tho. The way you spelled it would start with an F when said.
RIGHT
He also knows it was partly his fault. He should have looked better after his daughter. If my girl was twitting stuff like that and getting drunk and high at 16, I would feel like I'm a failed parent.
It was his only child, and his wife probably can't have more children at this point which makes it even worse. Also, the girl has zero emotion on her face, a true sociopath.
I don't think they were crying in court because they felt bad for killing her. They were crying for themselves. I feel bad for mom and dad Neese.
Thats the only reason they were crying, definitely for just themselves!!!
They spent almost an entire year afterwards, pretending to Dave and Mary's face ' that they were innocent and had no clue as to what happened!
They are EVIL 👺
@@ginb981 yeah, it's just sociopathic and hard for me to understand.
Actually Rachel was actually remorseful, probably cause she realized she is going to prison, but her tears were real. The other girls were fake. When someone truly cries it usually is human nature to try and hide it, while those who want sympathy do it while starring at the person they want sympathy from.
@@Bravo-gw8th I can sort of see what you are saying. I can't remember if she was the one that was falling apart before they were caught?
I agree. Crocodile tears.
I'm surprised that you didn't mention the fact that Shelia, prior to Skylar's parents realizing that she and Rachel had lied, had visited Skylar's parents crying and asked to visit Skylar's room which they allowed her to do... While it's unknown why or what she did in there, I believe she wanted to relive the murder in some way. Sheila is a true sociopath and should NEVER be released from prison.
Yea and They were making sure there was no evidence of their secret so probably took notes checked laptop stuff like that
Both should never be released. Their mug shots make me feel sick.
Probably stole some clothing to keep it as trophies
I'm sure the killer Mary Bell did something similar
Supposedly skylar had a journal, and in it she had wrote about walking in on Sheila and Rachel having sex at the drunken sleepover. That's exactly what Sheila was looking for.
Watching her father speak in court is heartbreaking. That man is unimaginably hurt. RIP Skyler.
True
Imagine hearing your baby's life is only worth 15 years.
People get more than that for much lesser crimes wtf
I know right. They should get a sentence that ensures they’ll be too old to have kids when they get out. 45years for the both of them.
Sheila got LIFE IN PRISON with POSSIBILITY for parole AFTER 15 years. I understand your feeling over this case, but please stop spreading misinformation.
@@elizapipemaster4200 Possibility of parole after 15 years. That means she's serving 15 years unless she kills somebody else in jail. There's no misinformation.
In my country (Sweden) in 2009, two 15 year olds (a boy and a girl) deliberately planned and brutally murdered another 15 year old girl. They were sentenced to 18 MONTHS in a juvenile facility and are now living comfortably with new identities.
The reason why the Neeses sued those girls’ parents is to make sure the evil conniving jailbirds will never be able to make money out of Skylar’s story, I think. I read that somewhere.
pretty much, suing them for 5 million when they know they will never pay that is just to ensure that if the parents of the girls ever wanted to write a book or were paid for a tv appearance or anything then all that money would immediately go to the neeses
@@KrazyVideoChick yeah, smart for a lawyer to guide them with the knowledge adquired after years of studying
@@OpiumBride you're just too dumb to understand this big brain move
@@OpiumBride Yes, they are responsible for the actions of their minor children.
@@lewisosborne6843How would that work though. Say for example Rachels new wife was 2 write a book. With her not being named in the lawsuit?
Good on him for attending every single parole hearing.
She should only be free when his little girl gets to be free. Never.
Exactly. Life in correction or lethal injection. Murderers have no place walking free. Literal Backstabbers. I feel so sad for the father, and so angry at the justice system.
@FESERFACE I feel like there is no point in punitive justice in a political and moral sense. But its so hard to feel that in the face of murderers isnt it.
Ahh a dynasty warriors fam
@@wolfafterdark see I believe everyone should have a second chance if they deserve it. The girls clearly show no remorse but some murderers might feel guilt for what they did
@@louissykes2406 I think that "feeling remorse for killing a girl in cold blood" and "wanting to be free after killing a girl in cold blood" are mutually exclusive feelings. If they truly felt remorse for what they did, they would know that they are too dangerous for the outside world
I've seen this case covered quite a few times and I just wanted to say that I appreciate how you formatted it. You wove things in as they happened instead of as it was discovered during the course of the investigation, and I really think that helped the clarity of this case.
I think the sickest thing is that in an extended interview Skylar's parents revealed that Sheila spent a bunch of time with the parents after Skylar was declared both missing and dead. Sheila would turn up at the house to help with stuff and cry with them, occasional saying something cryptic about Skylar's disappearance. The worst kind of human (and I use the term human loosely)
Pyscopath. 0 empathy
Why is my forehead so big? 😞
@@nr1NPC because your brain so big. You super smart
Sheila's behaviour is such typicall for murderes and criminal behaviour AFTER crime. There are many many cases where suspects where helping victim's family/parents and even the police in the case. This is common and psychologist says that this is somehow "helping" guilty persons not to feel bad and not to feel guilty for what they did.
This si psychological mechanism, like "washing away the sins".
They should have been left alone in a room with Skylar’s parents.
The dad said what he said, he did not stutter. Bravo, sir
@Trevor B what he said
Amen
Even if he did, it would've been just as powerful. Like a good husband he tried to take the brunt of the stress off his wife. Good man.
He mumbled and slurred his words though
The nerve of Shiela to taunt the family who just lost their baby by tweeting “we really did go on 3” referring to them counting to 3 before stabbing her 50 times😠 No remorse
Whatacunt
If she was the type to have remorse she never would have done it
Oh I just got that now...shit....what cruel words.... this world needs more empathy geez
If you actually read the original Twitter thread, that's not what Shelia was referring to. But yeah, she's still evil.
Phresh62, There is a screenshot at 22:30 with only those few words. Do you happen to know what else she may have been referring to by saying that?
Deny their parole as long as possible. Neither of them deserves to be among free society again. It was a horrible, senseless crime.
It's crazy how much we all thought high school mattered and how much it instantly didn't matter 2 days after we walked out.
💯. Idk how old you are but wait til you’re 43! You’ll realize even more how silly high school was!
So true!!
Trying to convince teen daughters of that at the moment!!
@@kellyharris8976 I am 43 & it is soooo pathetic when you think about what we worried about in high school! Trying to convince my girls of that and they give me the same look I gave at their age 🤣
@@jfraserfisher it's so hard. My daughter is only 12. Thry have more to deal with these days due to internet too. I don't allow her to have social media. I caught her a couple times.. they need to understand the dangers of these predators online too.
Finally someone who did not say "I forgive them" . Dad is keeping it real!
this! I know I’d have that kind of anger too, can’t blame him one bit
not that real. cried like a bitch
I would be counting the days until they got out
It disturbs me when parents say they forgive someone who brutally murdered their child. Like maybe I could get if it was an accident/drunk driver even, but specifically Singling my child out to callously and brutally take her life? NOPE. I believe in forgiveness and second chances but some things are truly evil and in no way a mistake or lack of judgement. Just PURE EVIL and absolutely does not warrant forgiveness.
@@jennifercusnier339 exactly! an accident is one thing, but these girls knew what they were doing and decided to take her life in such a brutal way, there's nothing to forgive.
I seriously hope those monsters don't get out of jail early.
They're attractive white girls. Don't hold your breath.
.. 15 years is already too soon 😔
@@merncat75 The other one is gonna be out in like 10 years.
@the Emperor of man that won't happen ever because by law no one be recharged for the same crime ! Sadly that is the way it is ! They should have been sentenced with the death penalty ! But most states that have the death penalty don't seem to execute anyone anymore ! So our tax dollars has to pay for everything for them until they die of old age ! Their food , clothes , bedding roof over their heads , schooling and much more ! I think that I have said enough !
@@Dr.JeremyDunks
Sheila is hot, yup. But, women do less time regardless. Doesn't matter if they are white or whatever. The most important thing to have is money. Just look at OJ Simpson. Money talks, man.
Similar case happened in this town. I met a young woman whose sister was murdered by two female classmates. Her sister had been invited by these two girls to go swimming up at Crystal Fall. The sister was hesitant to go but felt sorry for these girls who seemed like the outcast in school. The police notified the mother saying her daughter had drowned but one detective said it looked suspicious how she drowned. No one was ever charged. I’d love to have this case investigated to see what caused the detective to say it looked suspicious.
The fact that their recent mugshots show them smiling and having their hair and makeup done makes me sick
I think it's bad that they're in the same prison together too, locked up with their bestie isnt exactly that bad, they should be alone like Skylar was
Tracy Johnson I thought they were separated. Why would they have two criminal besties together?!! That is terrible
And in the same jail.....wtf
They should've gotten death penalty.. when it's proven like 100% that someone (or in this case more than one person) is a murderer, they need to get death penalty. Prison life is sometimes not as bad as it is made out to be.. sure, it's worse than having freedom. But in prison, you can make friends sometimes rather than just enemies.. you get free food and free healthcare in prison.. and unfortunately, sometimes murderers actually get let out of prison after a certain amount of time. These two girls are supposed to possibly be released at some point. And taxpayer money goes into things such as keeping evil monsters like Rachel and Shelia alive.
@@butterflyfam2522
Don't forget free cable. American prisons are pathetic.
I’m disturbed that they are in the same prison. They should be separated.
My thoughts exactly! Would have been nice to get an update on them like, are they allowed contact with one another, are they in the same unit, are they still "friends" etc... like, how much outrage do I need to feel here🤷🏽♀️
@@AliceNsWonderland I seen both the other day they look happy
@@vatolocosforever803 which one?
@@xoddsocksx4766 I actually meant to say both..
@@xoddsocksx4766 they're in the same prison together
The fact that those two are SMILING in their mugshots is sickening. They didn't regret anything.
I thought THE SAME. As much as the rest of it was so abhorrent, that was the part that really got me.
Those aren’t mugshots, those are pictures of them in prison after trial, either way the smiles made me sick
And clearly had makeup on
Exactly what i was thinking
This story is mind-blowing
Female privilege.
These girls could have just said they'd rather not hang out with her anymore, but they were so worried about their secrets getting out that they ruined their lives away by robbing Skylar of hers. This is such a tragic and heartbreaking story.
They could've, but they didn't. Just pretend it's unimaginable.
i can’t imagine what “secrets” are worth taking a life over. i hope those girls never see the outside.
@@hurricanejaney I fully agree with you
In college my best friend ghosted me and cut me out of his life because his girlfriend didn't like me. I used to be kind of bitter about that but you know what? It's fine. It's totally fine now.
Fook them anyway.
“Bullet dodged”
Ew any person who would cut off their best friend for a boy is not a friend . I can be your best friend
Mine did in high school too but then ended up murdering said girlfriend/baby mama. Which did me a favor inadvertently.
You were probably creepy. Women are usually right
I helped in the search for Skylar. Motown is very close to the town I'm from. It was horrible to find out what really happened to her by the hands of her so called best friends. I can't remember but I commented a few weeks ago on a TH-cam channel to cover Skylar's story.
Thank you Mike as always for telling Skylar's story ♥
Wonderful that you gave an effort to help!
From this video I hope you never have need of a competent local police force. Where I'm from its the same.
I'm from West Virginia, too and I remember when this was happening. I lived in the eastern panhandle, though so I was too far away. Bless you for searching. What a terrible fate for a beautiful, intelligent young woman. To be killed by your so-called friends because they... "didn't like"her anymore... it's just so senseless. RIP Skylar.
ohh thats gotta hurt you to learn that
@@elizabethsedai854 I live in the North Central part of WV. Even if you shared all the posts about Skylar or took the time to read about Skylar that is you helping. There's so many ways people help out but think that their not when anything big or small helps go along way.🖤
Note: sheila got off on hitting animals with her car. That kind of callous, HEARTLESS disregard for the pain and suffering of others is a warning of a deeply disturbed individual.
Damn... Can't imagine that, wtf is wrong with people
@@cherryblossom5162 I know. 😥
Typical sociopath.
That's a common early warning sign of a serial killer.
I’m absolutely terrified of accidentally hitting/running over an animal with my car, I can’t even imagine wanting to do it on purpose. Absolutely disgusting.
One life loss, and two lives thrown away for absolutely no reason. One thing I keep trying to get into my nieces' and nephews' heads is that actions have consequences and stopping and thinking for at least 5-10 seconds could stop you from doing, or saying, something you can't take back.
Very sad. I feel horrible for the Neeses and hope they can one day find peace.
“My little girl is something you can’t close”
Even thinking of losing any of my children brings me to tears. The pain her parents will always be in is unfathomable. They are the ones being punished with a life sentence without the eligibility for parole.
I don't even have children and the thought of something like that horrifies me. I cannot even begin to imagine the level of pain 😔
You are so right about the parents being punished with a life sentence that they didn't deserve..
a nightmare that never ends and will continue on for the rest of their lives.. it's so unfair 😞
I have daughters. Hearing this and just a moment imagining what those parents must be feeling was overwhelming for me. How do...
There is no such thing as closure when your child dies. That word does not exist.
I dont have children either, but I've talked to alot of parents and all of them agree that a parent should never bury their children. Such a sad thing to go through....i hope they don't get to have parole.
@Ian Dog they are out if they make 'parole,' hopefully they will not
The actor Kelsey Grammars younger sister was kidnapped...raped and murdered in cold blood. There were several men involved. The one who did the murder was up for parole. Had the nerve to write Kelsey to ask him to write a letter to have him released. Kelsey did not. He did say he forgave him but could not see him being released.
How could one forgive a cold blooded murdetet?
He also lived through his father being murdeted...
No I could not gorgive... life goes on but it will never be eady... so sad
The dad's testimony made me tear up. I cannot IMAGINE what he feels or what he thinks about the loss of his daughter. I don't know him, but my heart pours out sorrow for him.
Same here. Its every parents worst nightmare ever.
Every time I see him breaking down it bothers me alot.
I was bawling for him too. It didn't help that he and Skylar are completely identical :( poor people
same here. they loved her so much...
Shout out to my ex best friend for not killing me
Yeah I know what its like to be ostracized from a small group of supposed friends. I regret all the times I felt sorry for myself and am now grateful they never tried to kill me.
@@yoyo2ma - Hey, you're a good person, you didnt deserve that. Young people are just so scared they are literally always chicken shit scared and will do cruel things sometimes because some asshole bully has control in certain situations. I hope you have found some real friends.
Mine tried haha
@@jenrichardson1941 what
I AM JUST GONNA COMMENT
YOU TOO BRUTUS....
SIMILARITES THO....
I always appreciate how sensitive and delicate you are covering tragic cases but especially those with minors.
I feel Rachel has a small sense of remorse, but Shiela is a straight cold psychopath.
Yeah but maybe not, let’s not forget Rachel was in acting and from what I’ve read, a pretty good one.
@@doracampos2088 It's not really about that though. If you look at the 2 girls wildly different behavior after the murder. Rachel tries to forget about what happened and act like nothing happened. She can't think about the fact she murdered her best friend. Sheila goes around getting closer to the family trying to make herself look innocent. Sheila was afraid of getting caught. Rachel was afraid of what she did.
That being said the prison didn't look like they were doing their job. They both were happy wearing make up looking like they were enjoying themselves.
@@nathaniels9141 yeah but they still in prison tho
@@nathaniels9141
You are right...
I thought they were remorseful until I saw their mugshots
🙄
Thank goodness a TH-cam Armchair McPsychiatrist showed up to do what real physiatrists are forbidden to do; diagnose people based on a video, without ever actually meeting them...
Generally when a victims family sues their killer like that, it's to prevent them from being able to gain monetarily for their crimes (selling movie rights, writing books etc)
And those girls are for sure the type to do so
The murderers wouldn't be able to get any money out of it because of the son of sam law
There are laws in place that prevent them from making money off of that stuff already. They can't make any money from any of that stuff..They put a stop to all that a while ago.
Let’s just help turnabout happens to these young skanks .
Oooooh thanks for sharing. Never knew that but makes sense
These two girls were sorry that they got caught, not because they murdered another human being who had been their friend. Until the heat was turned on them, they didn't care Skylar was dead. They showed no real remorse for their actions. Their crying, to me, was their fear of going to jail, nothing more. I hope they never get released. Skylar's father is right, those two should rot in hell.
Mike, this was one of the toughest videos for me to watch. It was the material that made it difficult to watch, not your presentation of it.
I agree with you. Sheila played the "concerned" best friend" role pretty well. Those "tears" were for herself; not for Skylar, for sure!
OK, not kill
A true mark of a sociopath. No remorse, playing the victim, inserting yourself into the investigation in order find out what the police know, etc. Hopefully she never gets out of prison, she's the kind of person that just sucks the life out of everyone around her.
@@carlosmatos9848 Absolutely! I agree with you 💯 She is a female Bundy; as far as behavior. She truly thought she was getting away with it and figured she was smarter than everybody.
It's most likely ones a psychopath (I'm guessing Sheila) and the other one is a sociopath that was manipulated and developed a sociopath personality due to the psychopath.x
The parallel you provided by using the clip of Shelia and Rachel in the car confessing the minor car accident (with shock and awe) to them being sentenced is SO VERY SATISFYING for my obnoxious attention to detail. I applaud you, fine Sir!
They couldn’t just ignore her ? Ghost her ? This is extremely heartbreaking
She did know their secret. I dont know how lesbianism will affect their high school life, but i guess its pretty terrifying. And they has triple privileges stacks so life sentence/execution will never be mention. That faces in woman prison? Daddy will "take care" of them for 5 years, maybe more. They gonna lick a lot of V.
"My little girl is something you can't close." Breaks my damn heart.
There is closure to the fact Skylars parents founded out the truth. But closure to the events can not happen...
Yes his and his wife's only child. But even if the 2 had 10 it is such a tragedy
weeping.
Breaks my god damn heart
I feel sorry for parents :-(
As a father to a teenage daughter it about broke my heart to hear the father make his statement in court. They got off easy. Too easy
Help I'm A Rock yea U can tell he loved his daughter sooo much! I feel for him and his wife!
No parent should have to bury their child.
Yes and especially bc she was their only child.
i started crying when i heard him speak .. :(
Saw three other versions of this "story" previously.
This is the only meaningful one, even though no real reasons could explain it. A really good narrator. So visible and sometimes colorful, but never making a game of the dispensing of whatever facts are available. I think he really captured the minds of those two as best as possible, and the entire situation over that long period of time.
Thanks
Sentenced to life “with mercy“. Interesting...when she showed no mercy to that poor girl.
It comes to show. That the people that gave them their sentence are good decent folks. An not cold blooded themselves.
@@joaquimrodriguez8961 They both should be in prison for life period.
@@fitfogey Agreed, setting precedence will encourage others that the risk of getting caught isn't worth killing someone.
Agreed. Stupid mistake. Murderers should never walk free. But we keep releasing them, and innocents will keep paying for it with their lives. No, once a killer, always a killer, and society needs to stop make-believing otherwise.
Same thing I thought! With “mercy” while those two killers lacked mercy!
I’m sobbing as I see her father giving his words at court... Heart wrenching
This was so hard to watch.
@Melanie Padua SotoMe too- he had such pain; can’t imagine kid dying before me esp in that manner
Same. I died for a minute.
Same... I can't and don't ever want to imagine his pain...
Same here. I got choked up. I can't even... T_T
Apart from the obvious that everyone has expressed about this tragedy, none of the investigators should ever be involved with detective work ever again. 10 months to catch two high school girls when you have video of the missing girl getting into the backseat of one of their cars and never being seen again is just pathetic. One competent investigator would have had a confession an hour into the first interview.
Yeah that's ridiculous. These have to be some of the dumbest detectives on the planet. No wonder there are so many cold cases.
Sometimes detectives know very well who likely did something, but don't have the evidence to prove it.
Agreed. Their behaviour was absolutely negligent
@@Yes-iu3kr Sometimes yes. And sometimes this. Law enforcement f*cked this one up every which way. btw, "Skylar's Law: A West Virginia state legislator from the Neese family home district introduced a bill called Skylar's Law to modify West Virginia's Amber Alert plan to issue immediate public announcements when any child is reported missing and in danger, regardless of whether the child is believed to have been kidnapped."
Easy to say from your keyboard.
when the dad was trying to speak in the courtroom, that tore me up immediately. I couldn't imagine having to go through something like this. My condolences to you and your family Mr. Neese. My heart goes out to you all.
Shelia was clearly the straight psychopath of the two. No anxiety over the situation whatsoever. Just remorseless ice. She definitely would've killed again.
Sociopath
@@eloiseockert6561
"Psychopathy is traditionally a personality disorder characterized by persistent antisocial behavior, impaired empathy and remorse, and bold, disinhibited, and egotistical traits."
I think that fits pretty good, here.
@@eloiseockert6561 "Both lack empathy, the ability to stand in someone else’s shoes and understand how they feel. But a psychopath has less regard for others, says Aaron Kipnis, PhD, author of The Midas Complex. Someone with this personality type sees others as objects he can use for his own benefit.
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“Straight”
Don't be fooled they are both sociopaths but Rachel is a better actress then the other girl.
Her poor dad sounds like he’s choking on the phone interview 😔 poor man my heart goes out to both parents this case is just horrible.
Heard that too! Horrible situation.
His only child but even if the 2 had 10 other children you love all your children.
Hearing him read his statement to the court.....he was understandably choked up, but cant help but wonder how painful it musta been to write that. It musta been hours of torture. Eyes teared up to the point he couldn't see to write. Then tears and snot ruining the paper.
That's what woulda hapPened if it were me. Hell, I woulda lost my mind long before
that's why it's important to be involved in your child's life and evaluate their friends. if they're bad influence you have to risk your child hating your for a while but at least they won't get dragged into something bad.
@@arenasification Skylar eas friends eith Dheila since the 2 wete very young
Both Mary and David treated both Sheila and Rachel like daughters.
You just NEVER really know.
Their prison pictures, with them smiling, make me sick. And that they placed them in the same prison? Ugh.
So much for "justice"
Those pictures were probably taken the first day. If there is real justice, they are now in prison with some pretty hardened people. Those smiles will be wiped off of their face pretty quick.
Trust me. They're NOT gansta, as the kids say. But there are plenty of women in there who are and they had no idea what they were in for when they smiled. I'm sure they're not smiling now.
@@vegasrenie actually, those pictures are their most recent mugshots. Which makes me madder.
Seriously? They got sent to the same place? Wtaf?
I've been binging for over a week and this is, hands down, the most heartbreaking one yet. Neither one of them should get the possibility for parole. As a parent who has lost a child (as an adult and not to murder, thankfully), my heart goes out to the Neese's. There is nothing that will ever fill that void.
These people commenting that Shelia's and Rachael's brains aren't fully formed yet, well obviously. Don't think that excuses what they did even a tiny bit, most teens don't kill people end of discussion.
They may want but most teens know NOT to. We all have that filter. Some over ride it.
Exactly! No excuse for murder
Not sure if puberty itself play a role..
Malicious gossip, secrets, deceit, betrayal, contempt, ostracism, murder are also present in adult love triangles gone wrong.
@@pantsenfuego9986 exactly as you say, what kind of puberty hormones or any circumstances give an excuse to murded another person "just becasue they didn't like her anymore"? None. This case just makes me soooooo annoyed. Girls are so mean, it's just impossible... no wonder I never got along with "girl friends" ever, even in college, when you would think they have a little more brain than back in kindergarten, they still go behind your back.... but these guys? hah, they would deserve to rot in there for their entire life, no matter that they were "only teens", as long as they murdered that poor girl who thought they were friends.
Brains not fully formed you can say that again. They're unbelievably stupid. Gotta love the ignorance though to think they'd get away with it. Never mind ignoring the CCTV, announcing plans to murder her beforehand, suspicious behaviour like inserting themselves into the investigation, changing their story multiple times, allowing the victim to inflict wounds on them and then leaving the wounds visible to others, keeping their phones on them to allow data tracking, and finally thinking they could outsmart professionals with a flimsy rehearsed story.
Neither of them should leave prison ever.
The best thing would be to get out and charged in the state the committed the crime
@@maryjochapman3742 that would be amazing, but according to the Constitution that can't happen. You can't be tried twice for the same crime. Double jeopardy :/
If they were boys that's what would have happened. Males are treated MUCH more harshly than females in our courts - always have been. Our courts are extremely gynocentric and have ALWAYS favored women and rejected gender equality under the "law".
Not only gender, but race... If it were two black males who killed her... best believe they wouldn't be seeing the light of day...
@misa smith I know from personal experience. I knew a guy (black male) who had a clean record, but was arrested for stealing a car for someone. He's serving life in prison. I also had a coworker who had two brothers both locked up for 20-40 years for being caught with weed in them. If you think the Justice system isn't racist, then you're just sound asleep.
The world that some teenagers live in is so disconnected from reality it literally frightens the absolute shit out of me.
It truly is, my kids are only 1 and 3 but it scares the shit out of me thinking of those teenage years to come and how VITAL it is going to be to make sure they have the right influences and that they have healthy mental states. its stresssul
I find it creepy how mundane and seemingly joking can our attitude be towards killing nowadays. If you trivialize death, at some point you might actually start thinking it's ok to take someone's life away, especially at such a young age when you haven't experienced deaths of your loved ones and don't know all the seriousness of losing somebody forever.
I come from a rural area of an Eastern European country. As a kid, I never ever said to anybody or heard anybody else saying "I'll kill you" as a joke or goofing around. It was too serious a topic to treat as a joke or a game. Yes, we could tell horror stories about death and ghosts and such, but we never ever dared to actually threaten to kill someone.
Fast-forward twenty years. Kids are watching stupid cartoons where characters hit each other deadly. Kids are getting angry and yelling at each other "I'll kill you" for every minor conflict. Is that normal?
Ok, I don't want to sound like a grumpy grandpa, but still, there must be a line which we shouldn't have crossed. But we have and I'm not sure how we'll get back to the situation when children had more respect towards life and health of other people. I guess we lost the innocence at some point when the modern Western culture stormed in...
Social media, the official sponsor of failed relationships and murder.
Maybe if they got there faces out of their phones and video games, they'd be forced to be connected to reality.
@cbr9292you Yes and no. The unbalanced use of what feminism stands for can be just as equally mindfucking as machism is. Just like how christians that deviate from the true goal of their religion is end up in pro life protests and "hugs before masks"
Finally the victims family aren’t hugging their child’s killers or forgiving them in court. You should never forgive for something like this, I hope they rot.
Yes! Skylar's father is just like Casey Anthony's father in that neither were with that forgiveness bullshit and I have respect for that. To hug the murderer of someone you love is a slap in the face to the victim imo.
You should do whatever you need to do for YOU. If forgiving them helps YOU let go and heal, then yes. You should.
how did they get 2nd degree when they literally planned and went with intent.
There's a really insightful comment on this video that clears that up. Mike left out a part of the story: Rachel had been promised immunity, because at the time the police and prosecutors genuinely believed that the two girls did not murder Skylar. They told Rachel, basically "tell us what you know and we will not charge you with anything." They were expecting to hear about how Skylar left with some dude. Instead, Rachel confessed to the murder. But as it turns out, Skylar's body was found across state lines, so that state threatened her with 1st degree murder if her home state didn't charge her with anything. So she accepted/asked for a 2nd degree murder charge instead. Sheela(spell check) got the 1st degree.
I was going to say 25:05
i’m not law expert, but the one who confessed and pleaded guilty only got 2nd degree and the girl who pleaded not guilty not 1st degree. idk if it has any correlation but it’s something to think about.
@@G0DofRock one of them did get 2nd not 1st...
2 words. Recruit. Difficulty.
As a father myself , I cannot imagine the hurt of losing your baby girl.
Absolutely, I don’t think I could go on if it was to happen to my family.
You can really hear the anger and sorrow in the father's voice. Espscially when he says they should "Rot in hell"
It makes me feel really sad that she was his only child - and now he has no family 😔
Same, I can't imagine what it would be like to lose a child, and I pray to god that I never find out
It's every parent's worst fear. I have friends who have lost children to accidents and I can tell you, they are never the same. I do not know how I would even go through the motions of life, I wouldn't want to go on.
*getting convicted for murder*
“worst day ever 😑✌🏼”
She’s an idiot 😑
Guys stop using that emoji it’s racist to Asian people
@@barnoslat5632 Um. What?
Makanshi squinting?!?! That’s very racist
Baron Slater shut up baron
I have 4 daughters... I could never imagine losing any of them... This is such a heartbreaking tragedy, their only child. My heart goes out to the girl's parents. I can't believe those psycho girls are smiling in their mugshots. They're sickening.
Imagine this, you could lose your daughters at any given time.
Tif those weren't mugshots they were the photos for their prison ID lanyards. They aren't smiling in the mugshot
The extremely light sentences these repugnant girls received are beyond bewildering and pathetic. They should never have the possibility of parole. They are narcissistic psychopaths that have no real remorse and obviously no problem lying and murdering people close to them for no reason. They cried at sentencing not because they felt bad for what they did...but for themselves and having to face consequences at all. Seeing their shite-eating grins in their prison photos is disgusting. They should never be released and should be held in an environment where they're not so obviously thriving with joy. They have learned nothing and have faced no real consequences as far as I can see. It's sad, grotesque, and shameful.
I don't feel so weird about not having friends in high school now.
Right?? These 2 are absolutely fucking crazy and will continue to be a danger! They wanted and liked the idea of killing someone... Now the argument could be made that seperately they wouldn't of done anything and that together they brought out the worst in each other .... But I think there both really scary individuals
@Sniggledoms hell yes , I cannot tell you how many shit friends and heartache of various degrees I went through just because I wanted friends in my life!
Man I graduated high school 3 years ago, high school doesn’t matter. You will find friends and you’re going to laugh at how you thought high school was a big deal
consistency 14 As much as you’re trying to sound helpful,on the off hand you’re not being sarcastic or just a total dick,your advice sucks.No,not having friends is perfectly normal in many situations.Sure,prolonged isolation is wrong but if you’re introverted then;you do you.
Yes,friendships And socialisation are a major part in young people,though every school has a different environment.Ultimately,some environments aren’t fit for those people to make friends because a)The friendship will just be a prank and the person leading them on b)they can’t find a group of friends they like and would fit into.Isolation is okay I think in those cases.I sure was for my first 2 years of secondary,with basically no real friends.
Though that is the past and things have changed.Hell school life is not the only way to socialise.If a person has no friends at school,they can have them outside,e.g:a certain club outside of school or from meeting due to same/similar hobbies.
your not alone i have no friends either
I can’t believe they are serving time in the same prison, having each other doesn’t seem right.
Yeah but they sold each other out too. They deserve eachother...we already know what they do to thier "friends" so I'm sure they will enjoy eachothers company for many years to come.
They aren't in the same unit!!!
( Not together after all ))
Because Rachel is scared of Sheila, because she outed her and their misdeeds
Gin B that’s good to know. Thanks for clearing it up.
That is the only adult prison that either, as females can be put in, & they are segregated
Someone doesn't know how prison works
She felt left out... she had terrible fights with her 'friends' in social media... but STILL she wanted to hang out with those girls... Maybe other boys and girls can learn from this horrible case: if someone is giving you the shoulder... MAKE NEW FRIENDS. Don't insist on being friends with horrible people.
It's complicated, because like abusive romantic relationships, abusive friendships make you feel like no other person would have you, and it would be impossible to start over with new friends, especially when your abusers are at your school and will sabotage your efforts once you've dumped them.
But you could also become friends with a psychopath
Best option: DONT EVEN HAVE FRIENDS
Best advice ever. I just learned this at my old age.
Or just find contentment in being a lone wolf..
Social media in this world has unfortunately turned into cancer for some. We have people who can't even function without their phone. Literally.
These people are so desensitized to personal interactions because they live in their social media. Is social media to blame here? No. It's part of the tool. The evil that is in the minds of people is the true problem.
Think about how much simpler and happier life would be if the cellphone was only just a phone and there was no social media platforms.
I’ve watched probably 95% of the videos posted by this channel over the past 5 years… this one case stands out to me more than any of the others. It makes me so sad when I see Skylars father talking about her
Mike, I realized the other day what I really love about your uploads is the fact that you get done in 10 minutes what takes a true crime TV show 30-60min!!! they constantly recycle and repeat the same clips, giving recaps every 5 minutes. in this 30 minutes episode, you covered the amount of info that would take a TV show 2 hours!
Preach!
Exactly. I haven't watched TV in over 4 years. It's shit.
Bahahahaha that's so true. His videos are more informative. Just goes to show how much meaningless bullshit is on television.
He’s an amazing youtuber. I hope he makes enough money to make it fully worth his time and effort.
I agree.
My kid got lost in our town for 1 1/2 hours and I thought I had lost my mind. I cannot even imagine what these folks have gone through. My heart truly bleeds for parents of missing kids.
Agreed 🥺
Omg same just imagining that makes me panic and want to cry
@@urmomdotcom4039 the stupid thing that pisses me off tho, is when the cops found her, everyone in my family was like, oh did you yell at her for getting lost? Did you give her proper shit?
You wanna know what I did when I saw my kid?
Ran to her, fell on my knees and hugged her like I would never let go. I was so relieved. Who yells at a kid for being lost and then found? Satan? That thought never crossed my mind.
What would those parents do if their kid was found alive? Yell at them? Give me a break.
Those girls' smiles in their prison photos are a slap in the face for those poor parents.
That’s fucked up they have no remorse
Can't read too much into a photograph. It's one small moment in time captured. It doesn't give an insight into their day to day thinking or state of mind. I'm not saying they are full of feelings of guilt or remorse, just I wouldn't judge them on one photograph which shows them smiling
@@philwilson4167 exactly. smiling, being happy living their lives while the parents lost their ONLY CHILD. who, should I remember you, was killed by these two smiling individuals via stabbing. and they watched her die while she just asked "why?".
that's why when they smile, I (and a lot of people) just feel like throwing up.
@@donniebelladonna4512 being happy living their lives?? They're in prison so not exactly happily living their lives are they. I'm pretty sure they're miserable given their circumstances. Which is what they deserve.
As for their smiles, I suffered from depression about five years ago, but everyone I knew saw me apparently happy and smiling every day. You never know what's going on in someone's head, and can't judge based on one photograph, that's all I'm saying.
@phil wilson stfu kid. If it was your kid you'd see it as a slap in the face too. Those girls have no remorse.
I got picked on, verbally, emotionally and physically all the way up until high school. It is sad that it went this far. This hit pretty home for me. As a mom and am abused person. What happened to this girl is I’m. Beyond words. I was that kid. I had no interest in other people. Because of her choices that were good for her.. she was killed. Show your kids this. So that they understand … being apart of the in crowd and friendships in school is not as important as one thinks. I lucked out. She didn’t..
Keep Sheila in jail for life. No mercy. She showed none
CL Munro yeah I agree btw 69 likes >:)
Rachel too, from what I understand she was just as guilty. These are not people we need in society.
Dads great. Too many parents who forgive and wish these lunatics the best in prison. “Rot in hell.” Still too good for them.
@David Osborne That is very true. For some people, hate can be all consuming. Others can compartmentalize their negative feelings go on with their lives w/o forgiving. Both are fine. Forgiveness is a privilege only for the victims. It is their right to forgive or not to forgive.
As for politics, I don't think that has anything to do with the OP's position.
@@rumplestilskinsmum5094 nobody said you weren't entitled to your opinion..... geez, butthurt fucking babies everywhere.. stop being offended by stuff you're putting into other people's mouths, it makes you look like a fucking moron
I think saying "too many parents forgive the killer" is a very counter-productive comment... it is _their_ pain that they have to live with, not _yours_ . You can't tell people how to handle their grief and loss. They are not the ones on trial... so don't treat them like it and have a little bit of respect in your words. You are addressing people who have lost their children with judgment for no benefit to you or them. Some people can only live with forgiveness because otherwise they would spend the entire rest of their lives seething in hatred. Let them have their peace.
@@GoblinsAreAGirlsBestFriend beautiful comment!
@David Osborne libtard
"we really did go on 3" .... one of the most depraved things I've ever heard
I dont understand that. Can anyone explain?
@@ShitFuckPiss uh I Think 1..2..3..🔪🔪🔪
@@kellytaylor6651 ah right. Thanks man. Damn im slow
@@ShitFuckPiss Go back to 9:10 .
Ugh she thinks it's a big joke. Can't believe they'll be eligible for parole within the next few years.
I've seen a lot of videos about some of the stories he covers in other places, but he sometimes has more in depth information covering them. You could hear the pain and anger in her dad's voice when he read his victims impact statement. I can only imagine his pain. RIP beautiful girl💜
It is said that their tradition of wearing the same outfits continues to this day.
Nice. You've poorly re-worded a comment with 15k likes from a year ago. Good job, bud.
@@yohanscold2149 I guess two people can come up with the same joke then because I did not see that comment. I don't come to TH-cam comments to steal and repost other people's thoughts.
Also, why are you so immediately hostile over something like this?
Just an internet habit you fell into like 90% of people do?
Well, aren't you the original one yourself?
@@MandleRoss who's more triggered this guy who wrote like 10 words or you who wrote a paragraph back with the tone of someone whos spitting mad hahahaha
@@sleepful1917 I see you are also in the 90%.
lmfao
My heart is breaking for the sadness in the dads voice, he didn’t deserve that
Who does?
@Daisy May = my cats name is hazey May
Aww 🥰
Neither did the mom
Feel horrid for the murderers parents. Apparently they left the 2 alone they weren't in court.
My son has been incarcerated for dumb stuff like becoming drunk on the mta busline : disorderly conduct. It overwhelmed me with his odd behavior
He had gotten help and is working at his problems. But nothing like this thank God and I did not send $ to the commissary.
I’ve seen this and lived this before. You have a best friend who you’ve known since you were younger and suddenly a new girl comes along and she leaves you in the dust and starts to treat you like trash. If any younger girls are watching this just ditch the friendship, it’s not worth the pain and jealousy you’re gonna feel and you’re worth a whole lot more than that.❤️
Exactly.Take it slow,take it easy...let it be there and let time heal all of it
You've seen and lived through your best friends murdering you? I don't mean to be rude but you have no idea what this girl went through. You can empathize but don't pretend this situation is similar to getting dropped by a friend.
@@ginnygin7141 I think they just meant don't chase after a friend who drops you.
@@marymartindale884thanks :) oh definitely I think that's exactly what they were saying I just didn't like the way they went about making the point. But its not really a big issue
I hope we have some young kids out there that are reading this and taking it to heart.
That poor papa. You can tell Skylar was his pride and joy. My heart hurts for him.