Great video. I’d still go with the Macan. From a practicality and real world perspective the Macan is awesome. Plus from a reliability standpoint the Porsche is just better built. I have a few friends and coworkers that drive the M series in 3 and 5. Without fail they have had issues with engines and transmissions. When compared to my 911 997 Twin Turbo they spend a lot more time in the shop than I.
This is how everyone should do their drag races. Both had a good launch and I liked that your provided all the relevant information such as 0-60 and 0-100
***** there are certain teenagers who think they are smarter than anyone else. they like one brand and are ready to say all kinds of made up bullshit to make themselves feel better thinking they are right when talking about their favourite brand vs something else. there is plenty of them here on youtube..
CroGamer1 I DONT THINK ITS JUST TEENAGERS !! and i dont think its general to cars !! As far as i can tell , without an opponent or a sparring partner , damn near anything is pointless or rateable ....though they`de probably argue that too
ewt415 that is the point, the rate of technology and performance is incredible. The gen 2 997 turbo was not much quicker and that only finished, what, 3 yrs ago. M3 quicker than a 3 yr old 911 turbo, impressive.
All this hate for the Macan is ridiculous. It's going to sell. It's going to sell a LOT. Just like the Cayenne. The Cayenne gave Porsche so much god damn money that they built a new R&D department which resulted in the 918. People need to stop hating cars like this and appreciate the fact that its these kinds of cars that give car manufacturers the cash to research and build some amazing shit.
I'm surprised at how emphatic the victory was for the M3. 8.6 seconds to 100 mph is blisteringly fast - only 0.8 seconds behind an F40. 11.1 seconds for the Macan is quite startling too.
Subscribed!!! cool videos. It would be nice to have a final chart with each cars specs, times, and also their trap speeds at the 400m and 1000m so its easier to evaluate the results. Cool videos, keep them coming!
How is drag coefficient not even mentioned here? I'd reckon it should come right after power-to-weight ratio when it comes to accelerating past 100 mph.
Love the head to head videos guys, but please please please can we have a drag battle that is actually fairly close? Even better, can we have a drag battle with two like 4 like cars (ie RS4 vs M3 etc)?
Still impressed by the Macan. It needs more power though, 400 hp doesn't cut it for 2 tons of car. 450 to 500 would be much more fitting, but if Porsche makes a Turbo S, the price would be scary.
By the time you've finally finished twiddling all your knobs and buttons on these two gameboys the green light has passed and that Citroen 2cv that was sat next to you is already down the road.
The M4 would actually be a lot quicker off the line however ive been to bruntingthorpe and the rough concrete runway is less than ideal for a powerful RWD car
I would really love to see Porsche give the Macan the GT-R treatment that it gave to the Juke-R. Just by lowering the stance of the Juke, which looks like a sizeable cross-over SUV, it instantly looked smaller and took on the proportions of a hot hatch. I think doing something like dropping the Macan like that and maybe giving it some wider fenders would create the same effect: Making it look smaller, and looking like it was intended to be a hot hatch from the beginning. And wow, for all the M3's power, the i8 is still quicker. That's what a carbon tub and AWD, a 1.5L I3 turbo powering the back wheels and electric motors powering the fronts, with electric motors that have full power from 0 rpm will do for you.
Helmut, why shouldn't Porsche make SUVs? Only because they make good sportscars?? Porsche hasn't been a typical sport brand for years now...or is the Panamera a sportscar for you? And let me answer you the question why people should buy an SUV from Porsche instead of a Range Rover : beacause the Cayenne and the Macan are REAL SPORT UVs with greater handling and much better brakes than a Range! I had a lot of sportscars in the past 20 years, but now, because of some back problems I needed to buy a higher car for everyday use. That's why I bought a Macan Turbo (and not because I have a fat ass!). It's my first SUV and I love it because it's very comfortable AND very sporty! Am I a "dumb fat ugly dickhead" now?
I was watching other comparison videos with the Macan, so I saw Macan vs X3, not M3. Why the heck would you pit these two together? Is the next video going to be, M3 vs 918? Who's your money on for that one?
You can change launch rpm in the BMW using the cruise control switch on the steering wheel. 3000 rpm is way too much, it would've done better if you launched it at 2000-2200.
those test are very cool but the inconsistency is slightly annoying. some cars are raced on 800m some on 1000km, therefore you cant really compare them afterwards.
What you're saying seems so obvious. I don't understand why they can't compare similar vehicles. A small SUV vs one of BMWs top-of-the-line sports cars... Doesn't make.
Not really an SUV fan, but having been in a fast ish ride in a Cayenne GTS it was a laugh. But I'd probably have the M3/M4, though I prefer the old E92 M3.
well fucking obviously, what were you trying to prove that a saloon can beat an SUV? like people didnt already know that a smaller, lighter car will clearly beat a larger heavier car, even though it has AWD and the bmw having 431 hp vs the macans 400
ok, +EVO quit with the dilly dally and lets get to the drag race everyone wants to see: McLaren P1 vs LaFerrari vs Porsche 918! Guaranteed 1 million views. DO IT!
This is so ironic because I was just thinking about how much I love both of these cars the other day.. And now there's a mashup video of the two, even though they're completely different cars! I personally have the f30 335i and I love it. I can't imagine a car that feels faster, nor do I think I need one faster than it. But more power is always nice :) I'd love to trade up to the M3 a couple years later.
So I'm debating which one to get in 2016 between Mercedes AMG 63S, BMW M3, Audi S6, or Porsche Macan Turbo, could someone give me suggestion which to get or other options i could go for?
***** In my opinion, out of those options, it's a toss up between the C63S and the M3. You can get away with an M3 similarly optioned for a good amount of money less than the C63... but the C has more hp, a V8, and is slightly (key word, slightly) faster in a straight line. The M3 is the better track car, and in my opinion the much better looking and much more aggressive of the two. I picked M3 and never looked back! Good luck
I haven't read the comments or watched the video yet hand on heart I swear. The Macan will win because the PDK, sophisticated launch control, and AWD. Just my guess
I do like that colour & that is the colour I'd choose, I'd take the M3/ over the M4 I don't know why I just would, manual for me tho, got a manual in my 3 series I'd take the manual every time
haha * Porsche: Sports jacket, button up shirt, loafers. * M3: jeans and sneakers. So the gentleman's car is obviously the Porsche while the boy racer gets the M3. Makes sense in a rich man's world, I guess.
cayenne turbo would have been a better race, with 0-60 in 4.0 and 12.4 quarter it should be equal to the m3. Of course it costs a lot more, but it is a giant SUV compared to a tiny car
Not a fair comparison. Should match the Macan with an X6-M or and Audi Q3-S. The weight advantage the m3 had is what puts it ahead due to the fact that it sits lower, and well, it's a car not an SUV.
high performance SUV have batter weight distribution AWD and ow end torque for off the line. After that, the power to weight, aero and stability will lose the advantage
Well, it was kinda expected to turn out this way. With launch control a 4wd car will be fast out of the line. If they were both manual the Macan wouldn't stand a chance to be ahead at any point. I love them both anyway x)
Who would have though, the car with more power and less weight won. I love evo but I don't get these weird drag battles using cars that aren't even in the same segment.
Wait but you're putting a tried and true race horse in the M3 against, say a, battle elephant, for want of a better substitute, in the Porsche? I highly doubt the individual asking "how do I get a family of 4 around the fastest for under 60K" will look long and hard at the M3. And the M3 prospective owner long and hard at the Macan... This test was interesting but a bit odd.
People remember that this is the first turbo M car, so expect some serious remaps and power increases over the next few months from Dinan and the like.
There is no way a tall, fat crossover/SUV could hold up against a power-similar low-riding saloon coupe. A more 'fair' comparison would be between a Station Wagon against a crossover/SUV.
I was debating on which to buy, but still went with the Macan turbo and ordered yesterday. Coming from a BMW owner i feel the interior of the new BMW are so out dated. The ride is so much more comfortable in the Porsche
Mix man you are wrong. The 2007 911 turbo does 0-100 mph in 7.8 seconds. The m3/4 is NOWHERE even in the same realm. And the m3 is really making closer to 500 hp and more than the 911 turbo. The 2010 turbo did 0-100 in 7 and the turbo S in 6.7. No bmw is even close to those figures of a 2007 turbo let alone anything 2010 or newer.
i'm sorry but the fastest way for a family of 4 for under 60k GPB would be 4 motorbikes, like four ZX6Rs or something similar. each gets one, and it'll rip an M3 to shreds. it'll rip an M4 to shreds too. :)
I wonder what brought on this comparison? The Porsche transmission won't allow it to accelerate to high speed as fast as the M3. This result is very obvious on paper so I wonder if this was brought on as a promotion for the M3 which seems pretty weak.
***** They were going for similar priced cars that can fit 5 people. This test was done before the C63/C63S came out and the Macan Turbo was brand new. Panamera GTS/Turbo will run $100k+ (even $150k+), these cars are all about $70-$80k optioned. Supposedly there is a video of the M4 vs. a base 911 on evo!
Amazing results, so useful if you ever end up on a long empty runway. Even more amazing that it roughly lines up with what you'd expect from the power/weight, aero and drive types. Come on Evo, do something a bit more interesting with these cars while you have them. There are loads more better performance metrics for road cars than just a 1km drag race.
im my car to use launch control press launch button, press brake, floor throttle, release brake and your gone, its that easy! that said, it doesn't need launch control as its just as quick just mashing the throttle these european cars seem overly complicated to activate the system... if i pulled up at a stop light and wanted to race the guy next to me, he'd be half way home before you had finished setting the car up
Great video. I’d still go with the Macan. From a practicality and real world perspective the Macan is awesome. Plus from a reliability standpoint the Porsche is just better built. I have a few friends and coworkers that drive the M series in 3 and 5. Without fail they have had issues with engines and transmissions. When compared to my 911 997 Twin Turbo they spend a lot more time in the shop than I.
This is how everyone should do their drag races. Both had a good launch and I liked that your provided all the relevant information such as 0-60 and 0-100
So the lighter, lower car, with more horsepower won. Wow.
jason starek yea thanks for being a dick about it
Lol. Still a cool video
How it won was what impresses me. It’s a good comparison.
Joshua Vincent I agree. It was fun to watch.
Good to have a different comparison otherwise the world would be boring
And people still say that the Evoque can handle the Mecan.. Bitch please
pure wishes :)
I never saw anyone say that, just that it's a little bit better offroad and that it's prettier.
***** there are certain teenagers who think they are smarter than anyone else. they like one brand and are ready to say all kinds of made up bullshit to make themselves feel better thinking they are right when talking about their favourite brand vs something else. there is plenty of them here on youtube..
CroGamer1 I DONT THINK ITS JUST TEENAGERS !! and i dont think its general to cars !! As far as i can tell , without an opponent or a sparring partner , damn near anything is pointless or rateable ....though they`de probably argue that too
Finally the drag battle is back!! Waited it for quite some time now since the last one!!
2007 911 turbo did 0-100 mph in 9 sec. New M3 faster by over half a sec to 100 mph. Crikey mate!
That Turbo is also 7 years old, not too surprising
***** I've seen you try to make that point multiple times across BMW videos, it didn't apply then, it still doesn't apply now.
ewt415 that is the point, the rate of technology and performance is incredible. The gen 2 997 turbo was not much quicker and that only finished, what, 3 yrs ago. M3 quicker than a 3 yr old 911 turbo, impressive.
muzman777 lol 997.2 turbo(2010) (NOT S) beats 2012 GTR how M3 is faster than 2012 GTR??
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So let me get this...a lighter, more powerful car is quicker than a heavier, less powerful SUV?
And on that bombshell...Goodnight!
and now let's do a test between Jeep wrangler and Mustang GT
All this hate for the Macan is ridiculous. It's going to sell. It's going to sell a LOT. Just like the Cayenne. The Cayenne gave Porsche so much god damn money that they built a new R&D department which resulted in the 918. People need to stop hating cars like this and appreciate the fact that its these kinds of cars that give car manufacturers the cash to research and build some amazing shit.
such a cool video! KEEP it up EVO
I'm surprised at how emphatic the victory was for the M3. 8.6 seconds to 100 mph is blisteringly fast - only 0.8 seconds behind an F40. 11.1 seconds for the Macan is quite startling too.
The M3 has more power, less weight and probably also less drag. Fair comparison ^^
Totally fair.
I love these comparisons, however, it would be nice to see the performance figures side-by-side as the narrator reads off the numbers.
I am currently trying to decide between a Macan GTS or an M4 F82.
Love the grill design they put on all the Macan's and Cayenne's.
Subscribed!!! cool videos. It would be nice to have a final chart with each cars specs, times, and also their trap speeds at the 400m and 1000m so its easier to evaluate the results. Cool videos, keep them coming!
What is that smooth background track?
How do you choose what cars are you going to compare? based on official given numbers, price, weight, etc? thx for answer...
Please could we have a 435i vs golf 7 r drag race?
Sedan Vs SUV? -_-
Ok ok compare the panamera turbo to that m3 then ;)
I didn't talk about 911 until now 😂
Why not compare Panamera with the M6 GC?
That 0-100mph time is insane for a sedan.
How is drag coefficient not even mentioned here? I'd reckon it should come right after power-to-weight ratio when it comes to accelerating past 100 mph.
Any comparison is a good comparison. Thanks
Love the head to head videos guys, but please please please can we have a drag battle that is actually fairly close? Even better, can we have a drag battle with two like 4 like cars (ie RS4 vs M3 etc)?
Still impressed by the Macan. It needs more power though, 400 hp doesn't cut it for 2 tons of car. 450 to 500 would be much more fitting, but if Porsche makes a Turbo S, the price would be scary.
I wan't to see the M3 vs one of the lower trim Panamera's, maybe a S or even a GTS.
Can you compare f80 m3 vs golf R vs Audi rs3
What about the Turbo S?
What next? Mokkan turbo vs Nissan GTR?
By the time you've finally finished twiddling all your knobs and buttons on these two gameboys the green light has passed and that Citroen 2cv that was sat next to you is already down the road.
The M4 would actually be a lot quicker off the line however ive been to bruntingthorpe and the rough concrete runway is less than ideal for a powerful RWD car
I would really love to see Porsche give the Macan the GT-R treatment that it gave to the Juke-R. Just by lowering the stance of the Juke, which looks like a sizeable cross-over SUV, it instantly looked smaller and took on the proportions of a hot hatch. I think doing something like dropping the Macan like that and maybe giving it some wider fenders would create the same effect: Making it look smaller, and looking like it was intended to be a hot hatch from the beginning.
And wow, for all the M3's power, the i8 is still quicker. That's what a carbon tub and AWD, a 1.5L I3 turbo powering the back wheels and electric motors powering the fronts, with electric motors that have full power from 0 rpm will do for you.
The M3 does a quarter mile in 12,4 seconds? That's fast, quite fast. It's just a shame not to see manual cars around anymore.
The new m3 and m4 are both available with a manual transmission
It is available with a six speed manual!
it comes standard with a manual. You have to pay $2500 for the dual clutch paddle shift. Also motor trend got 3.9 to 60 and 12.2 quarter mile
John (new channel) there is a small difference between imperial (evo) and us (mtc) units! Could explain the difference 60mph (us) equal 62 mph (imp.)
Buchhalter007 no.. 60mph is 60mph. Its an imperial unit. You are confusing the 0-100kph conversion to mph.
Higher weight , 30 horsepower less and at higher speeds more drag....Macan does not stand a chance. No point for this drag race.
Helmut, why shouldn't Porsche make SUVs? Only because they make good sportscars?? Porsche hasn't been a typical sport brand for years now...or is the Panamera a sportscar for you? And let me answer you the question why people should buy an SUV from Porsche instead of a Range Rover : beacause the Cayenne and the Macan are REAL SPORT UVs with greater handling and much better brakes than a Range! I had a lot of sportscars in the past 20 years, but now, because of some back problems I needed to buy a higher car for everyday use. That's why I bought a Macan Turbo (and not because I have a fat ass!). It's my first SUV and I love it because it's very comfortable AND very sporty! Am I a "dumb fat ugly dickhead" now?
Both great cars, can't wait to watch the M3/M4 review on this channel.
I was watching other comparison videos with the Macan, so I saw Macan vs X3, not M3. Why the heck would you pit these two together? Is the next video going to be, M3 vs 918? Who's your money on for that one?
Would like to see a test without launch control as well since I doubt most users are going to go through all of those steps even in rare instances
You can change launch rpm in the BMW using the cruise control switch on the steering wheel. 3000 rpm is way too much, it would've done better if you launched it at 2000-2200.
those test are very cool but the inconsistency is slightly annoying. some cars are raced on 800m some on 1000km, therefore you cant really compare them afterwards.
This comparison doesn't make sense. It ought to be between a Macan and a BMX X3.
What you're saying seems so obvious.
I don't understand why they can't compare similar vehicles.
A small SUV vs one of BMWs top-of-the-line sports cars... Doesn't make.
give me this m3 and I will love you forever.
Not really an SUV fan, but having been in a fast ish ride in a Cayenne GTS it was a laugh. But I'd probably have the M3/M4, though I prefer the old E92 M3.
Would still choose the Macan.
Probably mid-life crisis coming soon.
well fucking obviously, what were you trying to prove that a saloon can beat an SUV? like people didnt already know that a smaller, lighter car will clearly beat a larger heavier car, even though it has AWD and the bmw having 431 hp vs the macans 400
ok, +EVO quit with the dilly dally and lets get to the drag race everyone wants to see: McLaren P1 vs LaFerrari vs Porsche 918! Guaranteed 1 million views. DO IT!
This is so ironic because I was just thinking about how much I love both of these cars the other day.. And now there's a mashup video of the two, even though they're completely different cars!
I personally have the f30 335i and I love it. I can't imagine a car that feels faster, nor do I think I need one faster than it. But more power is always nice :) I'd love to trade up to the M3 a couple years later.
So I'm debating which one to get in 2016 between Mercedes AMG 63S, BMW M3, Audi S6, or Porsche Macan Turbo, could someone give me suggestion which to get or other options i could go for?
***** M3. I was debating similar cars. The M3 is on another planet.
***** In my opinion, out of those options, it's a toss up between the C63S and the M3. You can get away with an M3 similarly optioned for a good amount of money less than the C63... but the C has more hp, a V8, and is slightly (key word, slightly) faster in a straight line. The M3 is the better track car, and in my opinion the much better looking and much more aggressive of the two. I picked M3 and never looked back! Good luck
SaMaster18 Great to hear. I'm just glad I'm in Germany. It's the best place to live with this car.
M3.
SenszR thanks bro actually decided to go with 911 lol
and when it rains.... byebye rwd.
Well you could knock me down with a feather.
Because of the "Swiss Knife" advantage of the Porsche I would put my money on the Macan. However as a sport car, the BMW is better.
The Macan kind of looks like a big Mk7 Golf GTI, although the GTI looks better.
This is just stupid. M3 all day over the Macan!
Or a used R8/GTR
Bmw all the way
Except for a GT3, I own an M4 but I still drool over GT3s
TPBeastt M4 and M3 E92 V8 both sounds better than the C63.
M4 cannot beat the Sound of the C63. It just can't
I haven't read the comments or watched the video yet hand on heart I swear. The Macan will win because the PDK, sophisticated launch control, and AWD. Just my guess
That was at least two bus length if not more
Damn
I'd take both thanks.
M3 for daily commute and occasional track days, Macan for offroading and touring.
What's with the airplane at 0:26?
I do like that colour & that is the colour I'd choose, I'd take the M3/ over the M4 I don't know why I just would, manual for me tho, got a manual in my 3 series I'd take the manual every time
haha
* Porsche: Sports jacket, button up shirt, loafers.
* M3: jeans and sneakers.
So the gentleman's car is obviously the Porsche while the boy racer gets the M3.
Makes sense in a rich man's world, I guess.
cayenne turbo would have been a better race, with 0-60 in 4.0 and 12.4 quarter it should be equal to the m3. Of course it costs a lot more, but it is a giant SUV compared to a tiny car
Surely there was ever only going to be one outcome to this, come on guys!
I'll take one of each!
why not compare a BMW X3 instead?
M3 for sure.
Beautiful, great sounding car.
I’m impressed by the Macan. It’s fast and I respect it. The M3 is too much car for it.
Not a fair comparison. Should match the Macan with an X6-M or and Audi Q3-S. The weight advantage the m3 had is what puts it ahead due to the fact that it sits lower, and well, it's a car not an SUV.
high performance SUV have batter weight distribution AWD and ow end torque for off the line. After that, the power to weight, aero and stability will lose the advantage
Well, it was kinda expected to turn out this way. With launch control a 4wd car will be fast out of the line. If they were both manual the Macan wouldn't stand a chance to be ahead at any point. I love them both anyway x)
Who would have though, the car with more power and less weight won.
I love evo but I don't get these weird drag battles using cars that aren't even in the same segment.
4.1 to 60 is very impressive. That's F430 time.
Wait but you're putting a tried and true race horse in the M3 against, say a, battle elephant, for want of a better substitute, in the Porsche? I highly doubt the individual asking "how do I get a family of 4 around the fastest for under 60K" will look long and hard at the M3. And the M3 prospective owner long and hard at the Macan... This test was interesting but a bit odd.
great
I mean its a quick little suv, but why buy one? What is a purpose in an suv at that point? its not much bigger than a car
People remember that this is the first turbo M car, so expect some serious remaps and power increases over the next few months from Dinan and the like.
The back of the macan looks real similar to the new Lincoln crossover...
There is no way a tall, fat crossover/SUV could hold up against a power-similar low-riding saloon coupe. A more 'fair' comparison would be between a Station Wagon against a crossover/SUV.
It sounded like the commentator was doing this just before leaving work.
Cmon you're an European publisher. Don't do just drag comparisons.
progress is progress. The 2008 GTR did 0-100mph in 8.5 and now this m3 is only a tad slower.
I was debating on which to buy, but still went with the Macan turbo and ordered yesterday. Coming from a BMW owner i feel the interior of the new BMW are so out dated. The ride is so much more comfortable in the Porsche
Not sure if I would necessarily cross shop these two, but I LOVE my M3 hahaha
Frontal area ftw
Mix man you are wrong. The 2007 911 turbo does 0-100 mph in 7.8 seconds. The m3/4 is NOWHERE even in the same realm. And the m3 is really making closer to 500 hp and more than the 911 turbo. The 2010 turbo did 0-100 in 7 and the turbo S in 6.7. No bmw is even close to those figures of a 2007 turbo let alone anything 2010 or newer.
i'm sorry but the fastest way for a family of 4 for under 60k GPB would be 4 motorbikes, like four ZX6Rs or something similar. each gets one, and it'll rip an M3 to shreds. it'll rip an M4 to shreds too. :)
"a motorbike is faster then a car" , the most obviously obvious statement known to motoring.
I find it more surprising that on paper a 335d xdrive could even burn a Macan Turbo... maybe one for the future EVO?
Gee, this one suprised me
I wonder what brought on this comparison? The Porsche transmission won't allow it to accelerate to high speed as fast as the M3. This result is very obvious on paper so I wonder if this was brought on as a promotion for the M3 which seems pretty weak.
Did anyone notice that the Macan's license plate kind of reads like "Rekt"?
both are wrong if you want a fast family run about you have to get an audi rs4 avant
Nooice. The macan looks awesome, and whoever buys one will enjoy it.
how many rattles did the M3 have compared to the Macan?
Obviously the M3 would be quicker overall, but for an SUV you have to respect the Macan. Plus the interior is leaps and bounds ahead of the M car.
Wouldn't a Panamera GTS/Turbo have been a better opponent?
***** They were going for similar priced cars that can fit 5 people. This test was done before the C63/C63S came out and the Macan Turbo was brand new. Panamera GTS/Turbo will run $100k+ (even $150k+), these cars are all about $70-$80k optioned.
Supposedly there is a video of the M4 vs. a base 911 on evo!
My money's on the M3. Lets see...
Well thats pretty much how anyone would predict that battle, right?
Benedocta Off course. Still fun though! :)
Amazing results, so useful if you ever end up on a long empty runway.
Even more amazing that it roughly lines up with what you'd expect from the power/weight, aero and drive types.
Come on Evo, do something a bit more interesting with these cars while you have them. There are loads more better performance metrics for road cars than just a 1km drag race.
Porsche needs to make that 'Pajun' soon!
Love the M3! M power. Cant wait to see it against the new 4.0L C63.
I thought the test was "how to get a family of four" moving. Fill the cars with 4 people and try again.
Seems like the Macan's exhaust note sounds better.
im my car to use launch control
press launch button, press brake, floor throttle, release brake and your gone, its that easy!
that said, it doesn't need launch control as its just as quick just mashing the throttle
these european cars seem overly complicated to activate the system... if i pulled up at a stop light and wanted to race the guy next to me, he'd be half way home before you had finished setting the car up
Tie fighter at 2.50