This is why you should go for a Turbo | Porsche Macan Depreciation and Buying guide.
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- Buying a Porsche Macan? Then this is the video to watch. In this buying and depreciation guide of the Macan, I am showing you the full depreciation curve, the depreciation per year and per 1000 miles driven. Furthermore, I show you how these differ for the base model, the S, the GTS, and the Turbo.
You can contact me on fourwheeltrader@gmail.com if you would like a personalized analysis.
The video is structured in a top-down way. That means that we first have a look at the full market and some general price levels. After this, we will dive into the details.
Specifically, this means that the video for the Porsche Macan is split into a few parts. We start by having a look at the Macan market. Here we can see that the market is quite large. We will also split the market by the base model, the macan s, the gts and the turbo. After this, we have a look at the depreciation per year for each individual model. You can see that there is quite a lot of overlap between the prices. If you are, for example, in the market for a Macan S, you could also consider a GTS. In terms of numbers, the different models all have a similair relative depreciation rate. This also goes for the depreciation per 1000 miles driven. Unfortunately, i don't have any ther SUV's on the depreciation leaderboard to compare the Macan with. If we, however, compare it to some other sport and supercars, then we can see that the Macan does an excellent job. We conclude then also with the message that the Macan is not just a Porsche when in comes to it's driving capabilities. Also in terms of values it behaves exactly like one.
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0:00 Intro
01:20 Macan Market
03:00 Depreciation
11:32 Comparison to other cars
12:54 Conclusion
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Subaru Wrx please!
Porsche Cayenne
Porsche Panamera
@@vaibhavpothireddy8808 The Subaru Wrx is lame, you mean STI? the value is a straight line for sure, and then it goes back up based on the year, seen like the 2005-2007 holds value pretty well
4- person Ferraris... 612, FF, GTC4Lusso
The research methodology in this video is better than many PhD dissertations out there.
Thanks
What's a 'VDO'? Or can't you spell?
Best channel I think I found all year! It blends my three favorite pass times, cars I want to buy next, technology and saving money!!!! Car dealerships need to all be watching this channel!!
Great timing for the video, I’m currently looking to buy Macan
Always love your methodology. Your scientific approach is truly of great value-you should have way more followers & views. Thanks for doing these analyses.
Thanks
I agree, you should try to seek out another YT channel to see if you can get a mention, or share your data in their car reviews and give you a plug! The car reviewers that come to mind are Alex on Autos, he is very thorough and detailed, he would be my first guess, then SavageGeese, possibly StraightPipes? I would appeal to them by mentioning that you think you have something good to offer but no one knows about your channel because you have so few subs. Maybe they will empathize being in your position and maybe they can pay it forward and help you out. I would only target channels with huge followings! I would recommend Scotty Kilmer too, he has a huge following!! Also, maybe pitch to them that they can do follow up reviews on older models too using your data. You need a symbiotic relationship with them if it is possible! Good luck!!
@@fourwheeltrader just found your Channel - wow I love your approach, quite unique. Thanks!
Fantastic analysis! Easy to follow and data supported. Thank you ☺️
This is fantastic. Better than I see in many professional finance presentations.
Wow, this was an amazing, well thought out analysis! Thank you!
I used this video to purchase my 2015 Macan Turbo a little over a year ago! Thank you so much!
I would love an updated analysis, particularly for the Turbo trim 🙂.
This is a really great and graphically descriptive video. Thanks you. Subscribed.
Outstanding analysis. Thank you.
Even today, 3 years later, this is an excellent comparison. I'm picking up a 2017 Macan Turbo next week with 50k miles for $32k. It seems like a steal if the trans doesn't go out on me.
Excellent video. I am in the market for a used certified Macan and this review is very helpful.
brilliant analysis
Hey man great video! Just subscribed. I would love to see a Porsche Panamera comparison video the same way you just did this Macan video. I'm trying to figure out what's the best value when it comes to a Panmera
It's a really great video! As a car fan and a student who studies data science, I do learn a lot from your video! There are many interpretation methods I never thought about. I also realize there are more coding techniques I could learn for data visualization. May I ask where did you parse the car data?
Excellent Analysis.
I appreciate your work sir. Thank you!
I'm in the UK and bought a 2015/16 Macan S Diesel from a Porsche dealership. It comes with 30 months warranty as well :) Like this video.
Great video. No one ever talks about deprecation
Can you do an update of your great analysis for 2023? Thank you.
That change in price at 2017 isn't because of Sport Chrono, you could get that on a 2015 or 2016, it's because the 2017 introduced the GTS model and slightly refreshed the dash and electronics; there's a jump in all models for the 2017 model year.
Yep, the guy has no clue what he's talking about
Porsche macan gts 2017 is a good buy for your money, tax bracket now is lower plus your getting the bigger screen with apple CarPlay mostly standard. I’m looking at one now for around 35/42k I love the Alcanterra with the red stitching 😊
@@GivThmHalscreen is barely bigger, but better resolution and easier to add CarPlay, yes. But might still be a bit underwhelming. Luckily there are 12.3" chinese systems now that seem to be quite decent
@@GivThmHaljust bought a 2018 GTS every option available for 30k. Stole it guy still had a 42k loan on it.
Hi there, can you please do another Macan depreciation and buying guide since it's been over two years since the last one? Thanks!
Interesting looking at this 2 years later… can’t wait to see what new Electric Macan does to the used market.
Good channel, just subscribed. Love analysis! Especially since I’m torn between custom ordering a MY2022 Porsche Taycan Turbo S or stick to petrol and get my dreamcar (991.2 Turbo S) and some kind of daily like the Macan, a Panamera turbo or turbo s, a 2019+ Audi RS7 (baby Panamera) or maybe a used or demo Taycan 4S for a fun little daily but the 911 will be my 10s 1/4mile drag car for my weekending fun at the speedway.
Thanks for the sub.
Impressive analysis. What is the sweet spot in terms of mileage and age to buy a GTS for best value
Awesome video. I got a CPO 2021 Turbo right at the end of year and it was $26,000 off original list with 13,000 miles. Seems to be in alignment with your numbers.
you should do another macan video since now the line up got rid of the turbo and added the T
@fourwheelrader Love the videos. Can you do this same video for the E46 M3?
Good stuff, have you got a graph that adds in the cost of fixing the oil leak from the timing chain cover?
Please to a video about the E63(latest gen.) and the RS7
WOW, this is great data!! What a good niche this guy has for a YT channel!! Something that he can also point out is at what mileage are the cars stopped being bought/sold. No sense to buy a used Macan if it has 74k miles if they only last to 90k.
Why do you believe the car only lasts until 90K miles?
@@spdrcr65 If you can't find hardly any with over 100k miles, then there must be a reason. Look at Lexus, they build their cars so good they just last. BMW has some 100k miles checkup that has people so scared about the bill, they usually sell the care near 90k. Land Rovers have a bad reputation for reliability too. So I never considered a Porsche before and I am not going to buy one new, if I buy one at all. Just being prudent and trying to make the best choice for me.
@@haciendadad The Macan only came out in 2014, so there's only been 6 years (up to 2020) to drive them.
Please, do the Panamera!!
Thank you.👍
Hi Enjoyed your depreciation analysis. Few Questions: 1) where do you get your depreciation data from? 2) could you compare the Audi SQ5 to the Macan S - Depreciation comparison would be great. Thanks.
I don't have a video yet on the SQ5, but you can find the one for the macan here: th-cam.com/video/KNv8aee0H14/w-d-xo.html
Amazing analysis man, you opened my eyes 👌🏻
I put a request for a Macan earlier in the year. I bought a 2015 Macan Turbo and it is my favorite car. I paid 42k for a CPO car at the start of the COVID panic. I think I got a great deal on a high spec Turbo (98k MSRP). I like driving it more than my Cayman S. This is an amazing car.
how's the gas usage? I'm thinking of getting the same
@@jonathanrenzi1102 mid20s when driving it in normal mode and high teens in sport plus.
How do you like the car still 3 years later? Mileage? Maintenance?
@@Embrxceyourdemons still love the car. Milage is 111 now and going well. Nothing extraordinary on maintenance at all. Wife wants another car so this is about to be my primary.
@@ftboomer1 wow that’s impressive! I’m looking into buying one that did most of its life in PA but currently in TX hopefully doesn’t have the typical rust problems.
It’s at 75k miles
Hi,
Dankjewel voor deze video! Ik ben nu in de markt voor een Porsche Macan. Is deze analyse ook voor de Nederlandse markt te hanteren gelet op de hogere bpm op de 6 cilinder modellen? Om die reden keek ik naar een 4 cil. Maar misschien is een Macan S in de uiteindelijke TCO gunstiger
Ben benieuwd hoe jij hier naar kijkt.
Would love to see a BMW M2 analysis
Can you share out the depreciation leaderboard? Love the videos! Thanks!
Working on it
Thanks as always, Macan Turbo in the $30s sounds like a deal.
As an owner of the Macan Turbo, I drove the base Macan while getting my car serviced.......Just wow, only someone completely ignorant of cars couldn’t see the glaring differences in the vehicles like the ENGINE for example. It’s basically buying a car just to say you own a Porsche and would be alright as long as you NEVER EVER get behind the wheel of the Turbo.
@@totallyrandom1126 the gts is really just a down tuned version of the turbo right?
@@mous3y490 The GTS is pretty sweet as well, again can’t POSSIBLY be compared against the base model...it’s insulting really. When I ordered the Macau Turbo the GTS for 2021 wasn’t available yet because I would have been tempted as this is my second Macan Turbo....would have been a fun change up.
@@totallyrandom1126 thanks for the reply. Was looking at Audi SQ5 as no RSQ5 but the longer wheel bases don't floaty boat. So I started to look at Macans. I'm glad they still use PDKs and didn't move over to the ZF8 torque converters. Coming from Audi, The Porsche configurations gets me so dizzy! The options are nuts. I liked the turbo but after the options I might as well get a gt4 lol. But yeah it's between the turbo and the gts. What were the changes between 2020 and 2021?
@@mous3y490 I wouldn't worry about the above posters advice, as an owner of a 2018 Turbo S Cayenne and 2016 Turbo S Panamera, I can tell you I NEVER use all that power. Unless you are a total speed freak, or track enthusiast the base Porsche with your SPEC will suit you fine,
However-
if your buying a Turbo- get the a twin Turbo V8 over a Twin Turbo V6 -HUGE difference
Nice video! Also worth noting that the refresh in 2019 meant that the S model no longer had a V6 twin turbo, as it went to the 3.0 V6 single turbo unit shared with the Audi S4/5/6/7.
Is twin turbo better other than for more power? Are they as reliable? Was there problems with the Twin Turbo?
@@haciendadad it’s actually a different engine across the range. It has better horsepower, torque, and fuel efficiency. As far as I know, and based on consider reports, there hasn’t been any issues
You’re awesome
Time for an updated video
Porsche Cayman GT4 or Spyder please. :)
Is there any other channel with this level of detail on depreciation? I don’t think so.
There are some channels discussing car prices, but not with this level of detail.
would Really LOVE to see Range Rover sport group vs Cayenne group. That would be awesome!
Must be your lucky day :) : th-cam.com/video/M7JZKXO_Kj8/w-d-xo.html
Ok, so is it a good time to buy or should I buy a rolex
You my man are a statistical monster, do you use mini tab or some other statistic program?
I use python for my analyses.
@@fourwheeltrader Where do you get the data? Do you have to pay for it? Also, I would like to know at what point should a car's age/mileage should not be considered. e.g., if the car has problems after 100k miles, I would not want to get a Turbo with 80k miles unless I rarely drive it vs a daily driver.
CLA 45 AMG plz!
I have just traded my Macan for another one. I lost £15k in three years which I consider pretty good.
Excellent video. Couldn't find the same analysis for the Cayenne. It would be great to show a comparison between the macan turbo and the Cayenne Turbo. I was surprised to find them at a similar price, despite the fact that the Cayenne is 50% more expensive when new.
The curve for the cayenne turbo is visible in this video: th-cam.com/video/M7JZKXO_Kj8/w-d-xo.html
Given the development in car prices it's likely that the curve shifted up during the last year.
What would you recommend as a good price to negotiate for a used 2018 Macan GTS w/38k mi on it?
I got one with 90k on it for 30k
G-Class
how about a 2017 Macan GTS???? is that a good one???
Agreed.....how does the 2017 macan GTS look on the depecriation curves as of now? Q1/2023....
When you’re talking about the depreciation over any length of time with 2014 being where your x/y axis of your graph begins, and each following year on up to 2020 continues further to the right.......
It makes it kinda confusing to move backwards like you did around the 5min mark I believe it was, when you started saying "In the first year of ownership you’ll see the depreciation of the Macan............" And your visuals move from present day backwards into the past.
Maybe I’m having a brain-fart day today.
I dunno.
The x axis shows the model years and not the value over time. That often causes confusion. The most recent model years you can find on the right. Hence, the drop in the first year of ownership is equal to the drop between 2020 and 2019.
@@fourwheeltrader
Yeah..... But that’s the thing. You just spoke of the current model year first and transitioned backwards to the initial price drop of that and the previous model year Macan.
It should flow like a timeline in a history book. Oldest to newest, left to right, purchase price to depreciated value. Na Mean?
Toyota FJ Cruiser please!
Cayenne??
Maserati levante please!!
That’s easy. Don’t buy it
Worst money spent EVER lol
2013-2015 Audi RS5!
Maserati granturismo please
This is going to sound weird, but it would be nice to see a video on the BMW X5M and X6M. Thanks
Audi A8
Buy only if you don’t plan to drive it in snow. Porsche AWD is a joke..You need snow tires? But why?
Appreciate your research on depreciation, BUT all German cars are empty $ pits as they age (approx 5 years) with high mileage (approx over 75k), especially BMW’s. The money you think you’re saving from low depreciation is overtaken by high maintenance and repair costs over the duration of ownership.
Depends on which car you are looking at. Also, it is unlikely that you will spend 30k on maintenance while it is likely that you will lose 30k to depreciation.
Fourwheel Trader - Car depreciation analysis I bought a 2013 X5 in Summer of 2018 with 94k miles. Within a LONG 8 months I dropped nearly $2,500 into it for front end suspension, leaking rear differential and a frozen door lock. This was with an extended warranty. I couldn’t sell that piece of crap privately and wound up trading it in for my excellent 2013 Lexus ES 350 with only 30,009 miles. My bad for not Doing enough research before buying that X5.
Repair cost versus depreciation costs are relative to the age & mileage of the vehicle. I certainly wouldn’t touch another German car with a 10 foot pole. Reliability and high maintenance/repair costs are unnecessary headaches when I know for a fact a Lexus (Toyota) will give me years of trouble free ownership.
Stephen DiBari silly you shouldn’t be buying a 5 year old x5 with 98k you don’t know how the first owner/‘s treated it then complaining about high repair costs buy something newer more appropriate to your pocket.
Kyle I did, my comments above stated i bought a 2013 Lexus ES350 w only 30k miles. Lexus IS the best & most reliable auto company in the world
I owned a Porsche 911-- 997.1-- for a period of two years that I sold for quite close to what I paid for it. Maintenance and repair costs were minimal at an independent mechanic. Put 15,000 miles on it.
2011 Bentley Continental GT
I got a 2016 Porsche Macan Turbo fully loaded with less than 25k miles. The original sticker price was almost 100k. It even has the burnmeister sound system that is so so amazing. Makes the car twice more enjoyable. I upgraded from a 2015 Macan S and I have to say I did not expect such an increase in power and comfort. The air suspension and 3.6 liter engine takes the car to a whole new level. I'm so lucky!! I just got a racechip that's supposed to increase the power by 85 HP. OMG!!! I have the ultimate Macan.... Thank you God almighty!!
BTW:. I went for a Macan instead of a Cayenne because the size and PDK makes it more agile and sporty, which is what I was going for...
UODATE? Mileage? Maintenance?
@@Embrxceyourdemonsover 50k, just got out of warranty. Still perfect! Not a single problem.
@@i1pro nice! I just talked to a guy with 111k and the transfer case is still solid! He said no crazy maintenance yet. I’m looking at one that did most of it 70k miles in PA but currently in texas
@@Embrxceyourdemons it's an amazing car!. I recommend spending the money for a quick inspection, ideally by a Porsche dealer. There are a few things that go wrong, but I heard that the problems appear before 50k so 70k might be a good thing if everything checks. A Porsche engine will typically last 300k miles.
@@i1pro yes I’m gonna try to coordinate that the vehicle is currently being sold by a Toyota dealership. Seems like a blast @ 400 hp but it will hopefully be an asset and not liability will be planning on hosting it on Turo and 31k for a older 2017 Macan turbo compared to 25k for a Macan base just seems too good to pass up if all checks out
There all turbo..
Yes but Porsche has the turbo” as the high end model.
Talk Number on happiness is more appropriate for a Porsche. Buy a Toyota if you have to count pennies.
nope - get a Tesla model 3, Y or X - but you have to own a home with a garage and driveway.........
“Best Macan”? With that shitty oil-leaking timing chain cover with aluminum bolts… there is NO SUCH THING!