In a world full of convenience and throw away...I find that maintenance on my chain, my bike in general, is a right of passage. In 15+ years of riding, I’ve bit off more than I can chew more times than I care to admit BUT it has given me a greater appreciation of my trusty steed (different over the years). Although it is not my favorite past time either, riding 12k+ a year here in the PacNW requires one to PM often and sometimes weekly. While most bikes are tucked away till next riding “season” (🙄), I find solace in keeping my bike (currently ‘19 Triumph ScramblerXE 1200) road ready...even with a sealed X-chain😉 Ride On my friends🤙🏾
Awesome. So, by sheer accident I have been doing it right all these years! I have and will always run plain chains and give them lots of love on my ADV / Dual Sport and dirt bikes.......and run sealed o-ring chains on my street only bikes for the cleanliness and low maintenance. 😎👊👊
Every bike I've owned had a drive shaft or a rubber band. This 2019 Interceptor 650 is the first time I've had to deal with a chain. Eight months of ownership and I still haven't dealt with it. Haven't washed the bike either. It got a bath at the dealership on the first service, and a coat of ceramic something or other right after that. I dust it off with the leaf blower, car duster, and wipe it down with a damp microfiber cloth. I putt around town and take a leisurely ride in the mountains once in a while. Top performance isn't a factor for me. I think a sealed chain is going on it at the next service.
I've been riding dirt bikes for over 20 years, never had a problem with a plain chain. A chain usually stretches out of spec. before failing. My new WR 450F did come with a sealed chain though.
This is why I bought a belt driven bike. Time that I don't want to commit is required for chains. Although... I'm seriously considering changing my ways for my next bike but I will have to make a chain cleaning kit that is super easy to use.
My dad taught me how to clean a chain. First, remove chain an dplace in regular gasoline and let it soak a bit. Next, take a good non-steel brush and clean it, all of it. Then take it out and let it air dry for a while (2-3 hours). Next, soak it in oil, then let it drip down until it no longer drips. Then Place on bike and give it a shot of good lube and your ready to go. Then just repeat this process when needed. P.S. I was taught this when I was twelve, I'm now 62 and still riding, always worked just fine.
What a waste of time, effort and supplies. It's like completely disassembling an engine every time it needs an oil change. Maybe take some SSRIs for your OCD.
****NOTE**** Tip #1: Sealed chains actually USE more horsepower. They don't EQUAL more horsepower. Want more info on chains, or just more of the hottest topics in the motorcycle community? Check out the latest and greatest in moto at Common Tread: rvz.la/2SjIZUt
Aside from initial cost, I didn't hear a negative. Cost offset is absorbed thru longevity. Power loss will be so minimal the rider won't even notice the difference.
But shit.... A sealed chain isn't exactly maintenance free, you still have to clean and oil it just as much as a non sealed chain so I say take the few extra HP and lower chain cost and just get the non sealed chain and be done with it. Hell I thing sealed chains are as much if not more of a gimmick then chain cleaners and lubricators.
Hi. Do you think the non-ring chain can be installed on a suzuki sv650? The current O-ring chain lasted 20,000 km, even though I maintained it regularly.
CPU UK I agree. Lost HP = heat and a sealed chain doesn’t run enough hotter to hardly notice so the horsepower dissipated is probably 0.1 HP or less. Much more and you’d have a pretty hot chain.
@@cpuuk Oh yes, you'll see the loss. About 1.5% to 3% loss, depend of the chain and the rings type. With a powerful bike, no, you will not notice it, but with a low powered one, you will. Less friction, less weight, but a lot more work to maintain. It's just a personnal preference. I use non sealed chain, so i can use do high pressure washing and fast lubrication every weeks.
Stop eating meat; and clean out your small intestine and liver with periodic coffee enemas. You'd be surprised how much stuff is clogging your small intestine.
I'm at a paradox guys. Just bought a Ninja 250r 2002 for a sweet deal but the chain is dirty. I can't tell if its a plain chain or a Sealed o-ring chain. The manual doesn't say either. Cleaning it is the only way to find out, but I don't want to damage the rubber rings if it is. Help please!
In a world full of convenience and throw away...I find that maintenance on my chain, my bike in general, is a right of passage. In 15+ years of riding, I’ve bit off more than I can chew more times than I care to admit BUT it has given me a greater appreciation of my trusty steed (different over the years). Although it is not my favorite past time either, riding 12k+ a year here in the PacNW requires one to PM often and sometimes weekly. While most bikes are tucked away till next riding “season” (🙄), I find solace in keeping my bike (currently ‘19 Triumph ScramblerXE 1200) road ready...even with a sealed X-chain😉 Ride On my friends🤙🏾
Plain chain, always had. If you want to ride a motorcycle, you should enjoy servicing it and taking care of it. Imo, that is.
Lemmy, keep up the weight loss. Looking good my man 💪
Jesus - what we all really wanna know is how much weight did you lose Lemmy!?
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Good on him, I’m betting he isn’t saying cause he hasn’t finished resculpting himself yet....
3 seconds in, and I was scrolling down to ask exactly this. Excellent work, Lemmy! Share your secrets sometime! Congrats!
Awesome. So, by sheer accident I have been doing it right all these years! I have and will always run plain chains and give them lots of love on my ADV / Dual Sport and dirt bikes.......and run sealed o-ring chains on my street only bikes for the cleanliness and low maintenance. 😎👊👊
Every bike I've owned had a drive shaft or a rubber band. This 2019 Interceptor 650 is the first time I've had to deal with a chain. Eight months of ownership and I still haven't dealt with it. Haven't washed the bike either. It got a bath at the dealership on the first service, and a coat of ceramic something or other right after that. I dust it off with the leaf blower, car duster, and wipe it down with a damp microfiber cloth. I putt around town and take a leisurely ride in the mountains once in a while. Top performance isn't a factor for me.
I think a sealed chain is going on it at the next service.
I've been riding dirt bikes for over 20 years, never had a problem with a plain chain. A chain usually stretches out of spec. before failing. My new WR 450F did come with a sealed chain though.
This is why I bought a belt driven bike. Time that I don't want to commit is required for chains. Although... I'm seriously considering changing my ways for my next bike but I will have to make a chain cleaning kit that is super easy to use.
My dad taught me how to clean a chain. First, remove chain an dplace in regular gasoline and let it soak a bit. Next, take a good non-steel brush and clean it, all of it. Then take it out and let it air dry for a while (2-3 hours). Next, soak it in oil, then let it drip down until it no longer drips. Then Place on bike and give it a shot of good lube and your ready to go. Then just repeat this process when needed. P.S. I was taught this when I was twelve, I'm now 62 and still riding, always worked just fine.
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That is a long time to not be able to ride.... WTF am I supposed to do while waiting for the chain to dry?
@@Rick_Sanchez_C137_ That's funny. You must be suffering form ADHD, take some riddelin!
What a waste of time, effort and supplies. It's like completely disassembling an engine every time it needs an oil change. Maybe take some SSRIs for your OCD.
Very nice shirt ! Honda 👍
****NOTE**** Tip #1: Sealed chains actually USE more horsepower. They don't EQUAL more horsepower.
Want more info on chains, or just more of the hottest topics in the motorcycle community? Check out the latest and greatest in moto at Common Tread: rvz.la/2SjIZUt
Haven’t watched revzilla for a bit, switch it on again and someone seems to have stolen half of Lemmy!!
No.
He gave it away!
Aside from initial cost, I didn't hear a negative. Cost offset is absorbed thru longevity. Power loss will be so minimal the rider won't even notice the difference.
Can confirm, went from unsealed to x-ring chain on my Suzuki dr350 and there is no noticeable difference in power
I hate cleaning a chain so much , I bought a Connie lol.
But seeing your shiny clean chain after a thorough cleaning is so satisfying. 😂
Thanks, Lem. You cleared that up very nicely.
But shit.... A sealed chain isn't exactly maintenance free, you still have to clean and oil it just as much as a non sealed chain so I say take the few extra HP and lower chain cost and just get the non sealed chain and be done with it. Hell I thing sealed chains are as much if not more of a gimmick then chain cleaners and lubricators.
Hi. Do you think the non-ring chain can be installed on a suzuki sv650? The current O-ring chain lasted 20,000 km, even though I maintained it regularly.
-Laughs in belt drive-
All the low maint advantage, none of the power losses of a shaft.
But my missus says my shaft is plenty powerful!
Fran, belt drives are less flexible in use than chain/shaft drives. You did know that. Right?
@@JatPhenshllem Except that's not true.
Shouldnt tip 1 read "sealed chain equals less horsepower" not more?
Yeah im confused now O.o
makes no difference, you couldn't measure the loss on a dyno anyway
CPU UK I agree. Lost HP = heat and a sealed chain doesn’t run enough hotter to hardly notice so the horsepower dissipated is probably 0.1 HP or less. Much more and you’d have a pretty hot chain.
@@cpuuk Oh yes, you'll see the loss. About 1.5% to 3% loss, depend of the chain and the rings type. With a powerful bike, no, you will not notice it, but with a low powered one, you will.
Less friction, less weight, but a lot more work to maintain. It's just a personnal preference. I use non sealed chain, so i can use do high pressure washing and fast lubrication every weeks.
You're right! Looks like we messed up on the graphic. As others have mentioned, though, the power loss is really small. Good eyes! -DrewZilla
Lucky me, I don't need either lol
How’s brag camp going
damn lem, you"re looking great
Shaft or belt for the win
Unless you want something fast and light ;)
Shaft
They ONLY way to really clean a chain is to separate every single link and wash in petrol then reassemble 😀
Hi Lemmy, love from Mumbai, India. Always like your videos. 👍🏻. Great stuff. Hello to Mr Dunbar too...
Lemmy, PLEASE tell us how you drop so much weight... I need to follow your path.
Stop eating meat; and clean out your small intestine and liver with periodic coffee enemas. You'd be surprised how much stuff is clogging your small intestine.
I hate cleaning and adjusting a chain so bad, I ride a shaft drive. Screw the HP. Screw the weight. I absolutely hate chains
Is it the same O-ring chain and sealed chain?
Hi. Do you think the non-ring chain can be installed on a suzuki sv650? The current O-ring chain lasted 20,000 km.
I have 2 shaft and 1 chain drive
I hav1 1 shaft drive and 1 gear drive.
where to buy a plain chains ?
I'm at a paradox guys. Just bought a Ninja 250r 2002 for a sweet deal but the chain is dirty. I can't tell if its a plain chain or a Sealed o-ring chain. The manual doesn't say either. Cleaning it is the only way to find out, but I don't want to damage the rubber rings if it is. Help please!
Clean it with kerosene.
I am shocked at weight loss.
Damn you lost some pounds
Lem hates cleaning chains....he has drive belts.
Is it just me or does lem look like aquaman....?
I got a shaft drive
Random Guy I got a shaft
Mark Koolen Sorry you have no drive.
@@LTVoyager Hahaha Sharp answher
U r not fat anymore
That's the reason why i bought a Triumph Thunderbird 1700cc with a Belt Drive i hate Chains Say no more
do you even eat, lem?