Hello, just to clarify what I meant when I said white women are “targeted” online because clearly I didn’t word it the best, I meant that criticism toward their “downfalls” is more likely to be made into internet trending content, whether it’s justified or not. Obviously there are other groups of people whose harassment online is much more insidious and harmful, clearly I didn’t word that the best. On a less serious note not enough of u are acknowledging Miku toxic gossip train at the end how dare u
Yeah it was maybe not worded the best way, I understood what you meant, and given your track record I was more than willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and assumed you meant that we see more of these issues in the mainstream, perpetuated against these white women. I would say that the framing does seem to imply white women are unfairly/targeted more often than other groups of women, but I would think it was down to survivorship bias. We definitely see more news stories about white women in these situations, but I would wager that if we had WoC in as many high profile roles as white women, that the difference in the number of accusations would be fairly similar. Though I could also see WoC being targeted more often if there was equal representation, but that is pure speculation at that point.
i feel like when you brought up Justin's initial feelings when he brought the rights you should have also mentioned that he changed his view when he brought in "No More" and consulted with experts on DV. People can change their mind lol
And yet, they're still the ones getting the main roles. That's why you will never see women of color behaving like Lively has. They know their careers are much more at risk than those of the "poor white problematic women people love to dogpile on".
Yet here everyone is making a buck off of it and consuming it. It's actually not sbout the film at all btw. It's about the conduct of celebrities and asking them to have higher moral and ethical conduct.
As a girlie who has a close friend in their life with back pain l can empathise. My friend threw his back out, bending over to tie his shoe laces. 2 months in recovery after that random event. He's only in his thirties btw.
I would say context matters a lot - simply saying "I have back issues and have been told to be careful when lifting over 'X' weight how can we be safe about this?' vs 'how much do you weigh?' Unfortunately we'll never know, but I could certainly see this being used as a dogwhistle/microaggresion though I would not say definitively either way.
I think the reason it’s continued to get messy is because Blake doesn’t know how to be humble about this film and people are annoyed with the marketing. Why make a film about a character in an abusive relationship if you’re not going to mention DV in the marketing? Are they afraid that that will keep moviegoers away? Because I had no interest in seeing this before and I have no interest in seeing it now, not even if it becomes available with streaming. Also, the more people have spoken about the other books and experiences with the author, the less I want to support anything associated with her.
@operation_turtle but but... that's the most important aspect of the story... their relationship is meant to be depicted as toxic, controlling and then straight up abusive. Hoover says so herself. She's just not a good enough writer to do that kind of story justice.
She was on the news everyday for her ridiculous dresses at the promotion, but none of it mentioned DV, or even the subject of the movie. The marketing is so wrong.
I think something almost nobody has mentioned is that Ryan Reynolds rewriting the rooftop scene is in direct violation to the WGA striking conditions of the time. Production was during the WGA strikes, and scripts that were being shot during this time had to be locked and not revised whatsoever. Christy Hall, the screenwriter, says she had no idea about this, so that also signifies Ryan rewrote it during the strike. That is a HUGE slap in the face to the hundreds of thousands of writers striking to receive fair pay and job security. It’s honestly absolutely heinous.
In what world would Justin baldoni choose to take on two of the most powerful people in Hollywood just to “smear” Blake lively. IMO he is clearly playing defense up against a couple with a ton of pull and influence in that circle.
Yep and he clearly hired help when he realised that they'd spread that tip to the press about him being inappropriate on set so we're out to smear his reputation.
I mean most Oscar noms and wins these days are usually adaptations like American Fiction, Poor Things, Killers of The Flower Moon, and The Colour Purple were all books first. So they probably knew that fact with it being a NYT best seller, they probably didn't actually read or think it through enough lol
I am deceased. Everything I heard and seen from these books seem to be a glorified wattpad story written by a 13 year old. The names alone are evidence of that💀😂
It's ironic that Justin Baldoni, the director who also played the abuser, understands the subject matter of domestic abuse more than Blake Lively, who played the victim, and Colleen Hoover, the writer.
@amigdalagreenleaf6795 You shouldn't be. Social workers aren't inherently better. Some of them are great and mean well, but some take the job because they love drama and like feeling superior.
She felt fat shamed ? He did not ask her directly he asked her personal coach before a scene in which he was supposed to lift her up , now she says she felt that a kiss was lingering too much but he literally hired an intimacy coordinator who was on set all the time, I saw a behind the scene footage where they were kissing he was literally asking her where to put his hands while kissing her and said several times during press tour that he would let Blake lead the intimate scenes … so why is it coming out now all of a sudden when everybody is turning against her for her poor handling of the promotion ? That all thing is weird just like the fact that she hired the editor of Deadpool x Wolverine to do her own cut of the movie behind Justin’s back and presented it for test screenings ( but Justin’s cut was selected instead ) why kind of actor does that to the director who hired them ? I guess that’s why he says now that BL should direct the next movie. She tagged all the crew in her posts except Baldoni, it’s just as unprofessional as her way to promote the movie ( while promoting her husband, her hair care line, and Deadpool )
Just a small correction, she's not just an actor, she was also a producer of the movie - meaning she's the one getting the money and distributing the budget for the movie. Whatever needs to be added or removed, and whoever wants to put money into the project, goes through her, at least in theory.
This is all so gross and I'm so glad ppl see.thru this and see justin is being targeted cuz he was making her look bad by having a heart while promoting it and being real and didn't even shit talk her , he was so classy about it ! But ppl caught on and she didn't like that , he's trying to fulfill a dream and his passion and she has motives in every aspect of this , signing on to the movie as well as promoting its all money and privous cast mates don't like her , gossip girl , traveling pants 2 project where the cast was so close and Leighton meister has openly hated blake livley and where is she today? Same place justin would be had the internet not protected him from her and her husband who are one of if not the most powerful couple in Hollywood
@@LunaWitcherArt not going to lie - I genuinely don't think the money behind the movie should be acting in the movie. doesn't it feel a little..... "you bought the role" ?
@@Fiisvii honestly it just goes to show that for anyone scared about trying to get their writing published because they think it's not good enough, you should at least try. after all, your writing is probably not worse than this.
I’m just gonna chime in to say that Justin Baldoni has demonstrably done a lot of work to combat toxic masculinity and so I’m at least inclined to believe his sincerity about the movie. It would be a shame to lose such advocacy in media, whether because of a petty squabble or turning out to be problematic.
It really is a shame because his heart is in the right place from what I've seen, he just chose the wrong book to adapt and the wrong people to work with
@@madsyxx I personally believe there was a lot of interference that hindered the adaptation. Having the author on set can be really difficult if they are not willing to actually adapt the story (E.L. James famously was a nightmare in 50 Shades - the team wanted to elevate the movie and make it better, but she wanted it to be exactly as the book, which made for a bad movie) and are just there to make sure it is as faithful as possible. Justin would be the type of person to handle this story with care, but Colleen probably had her own ideas of how the movie should go, and I'm sure that caused clashes on set.
@@LunaWitcherArt Definitely, and considering the way the book was marketed (IEWU nail polish duo??) she was probably on board with the rom com approach
As a DV survivor, all I know is that one of these people is showing women like me compassion in promoting this movie, and the other one is making fun of us by telling us to wear florals and use special hair products while we go get triggered by this nonsense. Team Justin and I don't care if this means I'm falling for PR. Impact versus intent. This is the impact made on me.
That PR firm also was hired by the teenager who took the video of George Floyd’s death - i wouldn’t use their most famous client as a reason to say they’re always on the wrong side
@@sortasofi254 did you follow the same trial ? Johnny Depp is actually the DV survivor get your facts straight ! And do you think that JD was their only client ?
@@sortasofi254need I remind you that the dv survivor you are caping for was arrested for being a dv abuser as far back as 2009. She's no innocent victim
@@sortasofi254 my initial reaction was the same, but when you consider many PR firms represent a wide roster of talents - both good, bad, and everything in between and when you're being smeared with vague posts, unsubstantiated rumors from "sources", and being framed in a villain role while also playing an abuser in a movie? i could understand the choice.
Great video! The thing that really bothers me about this whole mess is when Blake says Ryan wrote the rooftop scene, because the actual screenwriter, Christy Hall, has said that what's in the movie is still her scene. Sure, there were a few details that she initially thought were improv that may have come from Reynolds, but to say he wrote the entire rooftop scene is giving him credit for another woman's work. Considering how much Lively and Reynolds both claim to be feminists, this leaves a really bad taste in my mouth.
It's very common to change scenes in real time. She assumed it was improv changes because the writers strike means she or another writer couldn't be there. So it must have been Justin and Blake cause they're basically the only 2 ALLOWED to make the cha fes. She is very tactfully side stepping Ryan crossed the picket line because it's actually a very big deal(I'm sure the union will turn a blind eye). It's not that he didn't change anything. It's that he did and he broke the rules to do so.
@@ruminationstation4200THIS!!! I just mad a comment on this. More than anything, I feel like this genuinely made me loose respect for the both of them.
I saw Justin Baldoni hiring the PR team as a director not as an actor. It looks like he understands that if Blake looks bad, the movie looks bad which makes him as a director look bad. He’s trying to save the movie.
Im sorry, no. The movie was doomed the second the DIRECTOR with THE RIGHTS TO THE MOVIE decided to also PLAY THE ABUSER IN THE MOVIE. The power imbalance between director and actor is already there, and then to add on top of it Justin owning the rights to the movie itself, PERSONALLY SCOUTING Blake Lively and playing opposite her in the film is an atrocity. It's a one-way ticket to ruining everything. He has to direct, but he also has to tackle the film from the angle of an abuser, and then he has the sole responsibility of making sure his cast feels comfortable and safe, when he also plays the very character that's supposed to make them feel the opposite. EVERYONE who said that this was a good idea must have been high or something, because there are too many blurred lines there. Im not saying I support either Blake or Justin in this situation, but I dont think he has the insight he claims he has into DA, because if he truly understood the seriousness of it, he would have tackled this film differently, and he would have made sure that the person supposed to hurt people on screen, wasnt also their boss. I dont understand why I havent seen anyone bring this up, because what the actual hell 💀 and then in hindsight seeing the fallout of the movie... Im not at all suprised that there's a distance between the cast and the director here.
He had to be really stupid to pay a PR team to spread gossip and drama that could ruim his film and his career as a director. Like, Olivia Wilde was one year ago.
I don’t know, it seems to me that everyone took Blake Lively’s side because they wanted to be in her and Ryan Reynold’s good graces. Especially Colleen Hoover herself
On top of that BL and her husband are producers on this movie , and it seems that BL is set to direct the sequel… most people’s loyalty follow their own interest it’s not about who is right or wrong
Well never expected from CoHo, the person who tried to make a coloring book on a novel about DV. Also the person who shamed a girl who alleged her son of SAing her.
i don't bat for either team. while i've enjoyed work by both actors, i think the reason blake is getting more heat than justin - outside of the way each marketed the movie once promo began - is that blake has a recorded history of not reading a room. from the way she wrote an entire blog post about the beauty of antebellum as an aesthetic, to having a wedding on a plantation with slave quarters as a reception backdrop, to rude moments and now this promotion, there's a consistent pattern of behavior of not seeing the forest for the trees and then either playing deer in headlights or trying to re-frame the narrative in your favor. admitting your husband was a scab during the strike to write a scene in your movie, without the writer even knowing? promoting hair care and alcohol and a floral aesthetic? being your own intimacy coordinator despite hiring one, to then possibly plant stories of discomfort? completely re-tooling the movie with your own editors? each new story has/had solutions at their disposal and each new story makes it feel more and more like those solutions were ignored for self-interest.
Ryan writing during the SAG strike seems like the biggest slap in the face to the movie of all because of how many actors stood in solidarity with the writers. It really says something about both of their characters that they thought that was okay.
@poppyspoping3979 Same 😭. I'm kind of taking the guy's side on this since he's treating the subject matter (and indirectly victims) with the seriousness/tenderness that it needs to have. Blake is promoting a hair care line and telling people to wear pretty flowers.
So far I'm team Baldoni. Lively and Reynolds look like such control freaks that need to be in the spotlight and controling the narrative no matter what. He seems to actually wanting to tell something with the movie unlike those other two that are seeing it just as a publicity vehicle. I could be wrong tho, there has to be a reason why everyone in the crew sided with Lively.
She is set to direct the sequel, she is more famous, she is the producer of the movie, she is a woman, she is the wifey of Ryan Reynolds … that’s a few reasons to side with her in my opinion
She's also a nepo baby which most people either forget or don't know. So her family is deep rooted in Hollywood so she has a lot of power and a lot of influence. As well, it's been noted that Ryan has accumulated a certain amount of power and influences himself that he can shove people off of his own projects which he has done for Deadpool. So there are just certain people you don't mess with. If you want to still have a job the next day. And the Reynolds are two of them.
I will say, this persona Blake has adopted during this press cycle comes across as the least charming, insufferable aspects of Ryan Reynolds’ snarky bit. Frankly it would be easy for Justin to get all the heat if that persona didn’t feel disingenuous. At the same time, Justin’s public notoriety based on this seems messy, but I’m here with the popcorn. The best sequel to Don’t Worry Darling we’ll ever get.
I saw Justin Baldoni hiring the PR team as a director not as an actor. It looks like he understands that if Blake looks bad, the movie looks bad which makes him as a director look bad. He’s trying to save the movie.
In what world would Justin baldoni choose to take on two of the most powerful people in Hollywood just to “smear” Blake lively. IMO he is clearly playing defense up against a couple with a ton of pull and influence in that circle.
@@jiyaaaaaaa.j I think you’re right based on the context. As the director, it’s a savvy move. I do think the Lively-Reynolds cache is running its course.
Blake lively had her wedding at a PLANTATION. she’s not just a white woman promoting a DV movie as a romcom, she uses her celebrity status to get away with her horrible actions. regardless of this whole situation, she’s BEEN a bad person.
She and Ryan weren’t celebrating slavery clown and I’m pretty sure other people got married there so are you gonna cancel everyone who’s gotten married there ? And almost every land has a dark history so maybe go touch grass
@@sophiaa7995 I'm more of the impression that the commenter was saying that promoting a film about dv as a romcom AND marrying on a plantation on top of being a rich influential person who can twist her image to avoid accountability is the problematic part, not sure how you reached the conclusion that "white woman" was meant to be the problematic side lmao
Baldoni's quote about the book being "sexy" is being taken out of context. He was referring to how the book was painted to him vs the horrifying disturbing content that it's actually filled with. Ironically that discrepancy is exactly what you see in the marketing - Blake painting it as a cute romcom vs him continually talking about the dark DV nature of it.
I’m not gonna lie I haven’t seen anyone turn against Justin, other comments sections have seemed very in Justin’s favor. Also, Ryan should be kicked out of the WGA for crossing the picket line and I’m furious the writer’s guild has refused to stick up for other writers in this instance.
One thing I will say is that I watched @NicoleRafiee do a video about the movie/drama and her take on the book/movie was interesting. She states that not only did she witness domestic violence from her father but also fell victim to it herself and she sees the tone how things are portrayed (especially the movie being less violent) as helpful as they may be more likely to convince someone that they are in fact in an abusive relationship, because a lot of people tend to blow off troubling signs (I've done this myself) because they see domestic abuse as super explosive and obvious.
Exactly. I haven't watched the movie but I read the book and found the book to be realistic. The fact that people can see the violence but also feel drawn to him in the good moments IS THE POINT. It isn't glorifying DV that Hoover make him attractive. It is showing how easy it is to get trapped. There is cycle of harm to reconciliation to harm to reconciliation. I think that's why Justin keeps pointing out he doesn't want this movie to lead to questions of "why did she stay?" This isn't on victims to solve. He says the question should be instead, "why do men harm?" and I agree. It is on the abusers to do better. It is on the abusers to do the work to manage their emotions properly.
@@CMarie2415 I think the issue some people have with her writing is that a lot of the troubling behaviors that Ryle displays, the non-violent ones, exist in Colleen’s other male love interests in other books, but are only seen as problematic in “It Ends with Us.” So there’s a romanticizing of misogynistic/paternalistic/jealous behaviors in all of her books.
Kersti Flaa (the lady who interviewed Blake in 2016) was interviewed yesterday about this whole mess. She said that it felt like taking a bullet when Blake congratulated her on her bump...because she's infertile and unable to have children. I can't imagine how she felt which makes the comment even more cruel.
Yeah, Blake was really odd in that interview. I understand that those press junkets are probably really tedious, and she was pregnant and probably tired and hormonal, but she was totally rude, as was Parker.
I’ll just say it. Blake hasn’t done anything of note besides marry Ryan Reynolds since Gossip Girl. She wants to buy her way to movie stardom but she plays herself in everything and is so bland and cheesy.
I feel like she has struggled to get on that A-list level. Having done movies like ‘The Shallows’ and ‘A Simple Favor’ are just proof she’s trying to climb to the top. The fact that her husband (Ryan Reynolds) is always loosely involved in her movies just goes to show.
Why did you dislike the book? I was interested in reading it but after breaking dawn from Stephanie Meyers I lost interest in book to movie adaptations
@@m3l0nL3M0N it romanticises DV and the book is just not written well at all. Plus apparently her son, was accused of SA of a 16 year old girl and Colleen Hoover defended her son and called the girl a liar.
@@sophiesoph_08 thank you, that explains everything I needed to know. The author is a goofball and this is coming from someone who read 1q84 by Haruki Murakami.
@@BbGun-lw5vime and my friend went to see it because it was something to do. Sort of went in with the intention of hate watching but the move ended up being better than the book.
Not the cursed ukulele song at the end 😂 also thanks for the reminder of the Chris Pine spit take, that was the funniest part of the previous movie drama
The “grab your girls and wear your florals” is insane when the movie contains domestic violence and the whole point is to escape abuse; just that shows how she cares more about people watching a movie that she’s in.
Let’s not pretend that if either one of the people in this situation were black or a person of color, everyone wouldn’t disproportionately be attacking them over their white counterpart. This whole situation sucks all around but white women will always be relatively safe in their career compared to literally any other minority group when it comes to PR situations like this. Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni will come out of this relatively unscathed. But if Blake were a Black woman, not nearly as many commentators would be coming to her defense.
I disagree. People sniff out disingeniouness in people, no matter the race. Amber Heard did not fair well, neither did Katherine Heigl. Add Sharon Stone in there too. Also, not many people are coming to defend Lively. If you see life through a lens of color, that's what you will see, even if it may not be there.
@@Uilani-g4m I’m not negating the experiences of Amber Heard or Katherine Heigl. But look at the careers of women like Nicole Beharie or Mo’Nique who were blacklisted under much smaller circumstances and maybe you’ll understand the nuance of what I’m saying.
@@Uilani-g4m while people will jump to the occasion to shame white women, because they're women, women of color will always get it worse because on top of misogyny they're subjected to racism too and it's tiring to pretend the opposite
I'd personally disagree - Are we seeing a case of two celebrities feuding, thus making them both suck, or are we seeing a celebrity, who holds greater power in the power dynamic, attempting to alienate the other, which the public caught on to? The PR attacks and the 'feud' looks to be one sided, whereas Justin has been authenticly himself throughout.
The back and lifting thing isn’t exactly right. Apparently, he was asking advice from the trainer about how much he should train in order to safely lift Blake Lively. He at no point apparently spoke to Blake Lively about her weight. Word just got back to Blake Lively that Justin Baldoni was concerned about his back and was training to lift her and she took it personally. Which, in my opinion, is extremely unprofessional on Lively’s part. If you look at how dancers or ice skaters who work with partners train compared to those who don’t, they do a lot more squats and upper body work outs so they avoid injuries to not just themselves but to their partners.
There is a creator on YT and Tiktok who speaks to this very exact point. Her name is Anna-Lee Wright and I think she works as a dancer/actor on Broadway shows. She had a nuanced and relatively neutral take on the situation as someone who has worked in the entertainment industry. I would recommend her videos (they are pretty short). She also talks about the role of intimacy coordinators in the field.
You also forgot the fact she posted a skit with Ryan Reynalds interviewing her love interest in the movie, the one she doesn't want to kill right now, where Reynalds acts jealous and threatening, and then his mom and Hugh Jackman do the same thing. Like, they really chose to do the jealous husband gag for a movie about domestic violence. It's like the cast in a George Floyd movie do a commedy skit where they are bullied by cops.
Yeah, they were trying to make the marketing fun and viral… but this is not the kind of movie to do that with. Imagine if the cast behind ‘The Fault in Our Stars’ pulled these kinds of stunts…
8:25 just wanted to mention that his full statement leaves a different impression than when you singled out the part where he said it was sexy. I think you took this part out of context because no, he didn’t just leave it at ‘it was sexy’ which changes the entire context of his statement. Edit: you mentioned yourself that Colleen Hoover’s books tend to be more on the spicy side so him calling the book “sexy, romantic and mysterious” is not that off since there were spicy scenes. He also mentions how he was in tears at the end which alludes to it being more than what he said of it in his previous comment. No he didn’t outright mention the DV in that scenario, but his statement is not the same as Blake Lively trying to pass the film as the 2nd Barbie movie or a romantic, feel-good chick-flick. I don’t know this man enough to swear by him so I won’t, but I do think you misconstrued his words in this instance.
This. She misrepresented Baldoni's comment in this video and it's betraying a certain bias. Like, yes, the book IS sexy and romantic to begin with. That's the point. The abuse and violence starts after the honeymoon period. It's why the marketing for the movie can get away with spinning that it's a flowery love story (with a twist!!). Baldoni's comment reflects that this was his experience reading the book. Spinning it like he finds abuse sexy is... grasping at straws.
Wait hold on, I knew about the thing about Blake and Ryan getting married on a plantation (but not about her running a lifestyle blog romanticizing the antebellum) 🙀🙀🙀🙀
Even after dozens of footage showing Blake being a bully, the thing that's going to bring her down is her pursuit of trying to make Justin Baldoni look like a predator. "This one kiss. . .he lingered too long and made me feel uncomfortable." What girl?! What actor is going to want to work with her? He'll be taking a chance on being accused of se*ual harassment, or se*ual assault. What actor can be hirable after "Deadpool's" BULLY wife labels you as a predator? She intentionally slandered Justin. What she didn't count on was Justin taking the high road. He's coming out looking like a professional dedicated to getting the word out about DV, whereas Deadpool's BULLY wife is all about fashion and fragrance and false allegations about her co-star.
No one is adding in the weird thing that was Blake’s and Anna Kendrick’s press tour drama/PR stunt which I still am not sure if it was truly fake or real. But Blake also got called out by America during the filming of Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants series. Again, not sure if any of it’s real and I honestly love to be a cheerleader of Blake’s but these are patterns to keep in mind.
I think that's the key. It's a reoccuring pattern. Once, you can dismiss it but when it is a series of the same behavior. That is harder to ignore. It's kinda like if you've been divorced 5 times. You're the problem.
exaclty, very suprising that was left out the video and instead aimed for the " yeah shes a white woman and the internet likes to hate on them post amber heard trial"
Also, it's not a smear campaign to bring attention to someone's poor behaviour, past or present, that they participated in of their own volition. That's just presenting the facts. A smear campaign is a distortion of truth that switches the roles of perpetrator and victim.
Justin is so deeply thoughtful and open that he made me cry. I'm literally shocked at the difference in their atitude about everything. A male is more sensitive and caring, than both Colleen and Blake, two mature women. What is going on, it's truly heartbreaking. He had to separate himself from them to focus on the main message and offer closure to DV victims, as Blake is worried about haircare and floral dresses. Wtf
Baldoni may be doing PR plus but he can’t make Blake treat this movie as the next Barbie. That’s a choice she is making on her own and it’s not doing her any favours.
your take about the women card that the internet has chosen to hate on blake bcoz she is a woman is absolutely wrong. we do not know what happened during production but we can clearly see two sides and who is right in promoting tje film in how it should be promoted and how the other side keeps talking about hair,dresses,shoes,rings etc. its justin baldoni's way of tackling the issue of dv gaining him support and not because he is a man. blake is getting hate for what she is doing in the promotions and not bcoz she is a woman.
I love your channel but really?? 'Everyone loves to pile on semi-problematic WHITE women in Hollywood and that's just a fact?' Seriously??? 👀 Cuz Amber Heard got piled on? It's the lack of intersectional feminism for me. Hollywood has 1000 Blake Livelys and Amber Heards and maybe one Lupita. If Lupita was as tone deaf as Blake, if her man rewrote part of a script in a project without consulting the screenwriter, whether she was producer or not, we'd never hear from her again. Especially after the writers were just on strike. She'd be cancelled immediately. She has an Oscar. Hell, people piled on Simone Biles bc her hair was messy while she was competing during the Olympics. They piled on Jordan Chiles after her medal got taken away bc her coach did her job... These Black women are champions and still get dogged. So, let's keep it in perspective.🙄 Semi-problematic White women can keep being mid and folks still applaud them and worry ab their feelings.
I agree with it needing to be worded better, but Kayla said smth along the lines on her pinned comment. However I think this was more so meant in comparison to men rather than poc women. Bc of course you are right, if that was a black woman, things would go way more differently. But compared to men.. the way generally women’s scandals (justified or not)are so dramatized and it’s like hungry wolves waiting for a woman to slip up, meanwhile dudes get away with a lot more and a lot longer. And that’s what you happen to see with the white ladies rn. I think that’s what what the piling on means 😅 But yeah it’s misogyny. And if that woman happens to be black, then racism comes to that misogyny. Yikes.
@@kaylasays would like to add that Amber heard was in fact the abuser and not the other way around. There is evidence proving that fact along with her admitting in recording that she hit him. She lost the case due to her own lies and actions not because the media was against women. I would suggest doing proper research before making statements that say otherwise.
I have no knowledge of the behind-the-scenes acting scene, or much of The End Of Us, but I’m going to promote engagement. So here’s my recipe for Buffalo Sauce: Mix together 1 cup Frank’s red hot sauce, 1/3 cup canola oil, 1 tsp Worcestershire sauce, 1 tsp garlic powder, 1 tsp red cayenne pepper, a couple grinds of fresh black pepper, and a pinch of salt. Put on medium heat till boiling, reduce to a simmer for five minutes. Take it off the heat source for ten minutes. While that is cooling, take 1 tbsp cornstarch and 1 tbsp water, mix to make a slurry, then blend the cornstarch mix with 1 egg yolk. This is going to operate as both a thickener and an emulsifier. After the ten minutes have passed, pour the sauce onto the emulsifier while stirring constantly. I’d recommend having a second person help here. It’s fine to be used now, but I’d recommend refrigerating for at least an hour first. You can keep it jarred in the fridge, but it’s going to get more nuclear the longer you hold off on using it.
Wholeheartedly agree with the thesis of this video but there’s something sinister about blake and her husband ganging up on this relatively unknown director idk idk
i dont know or care who is "wrong" or "right". i care that it seems that blake intentionally is interested in marketing it as anything but what the movie is about. no wonder the trailers were fucking confusing, the two people in charge were butting heads. i will say that that one comment from justin baldoni calling it sexy and mysterious is not inflammatory enough for me to turn my head. i havent read the book, but im sure there are sexy parts in it, considering colleen hoovers capabilities and understanding of her own work, but regardless he has seemingly come around to understanding the gravity of the more serious aspects of the work.
I know we’re not supposed to choose sides but it’s really hard to side with Blake and her husband. maybe Justin baldoni shoiodnt have choose that book to adapt but I don’t think he should he nailed on the cross for that…at the very least he choose to promote the film in a sensitive way….
Justin is mature and is addressing the very serious topic of domestic violence. Blake is immature and is talking about butts, fashion and superficial silly things. Justin has done nothing wrong, Blake needs to take a good look at her behaviour.
This 'fued' really feels like a nothing burger. Agree that this is a book adaptation that should have never happened. But its been adapted and any meaningful conversation that could have happened has been throughly buried
Are you aware that some tiktokers were silenced not to say threatened to stop posting against Blake because something big would come out? Turns out, nothing came out (weight/kiss thing 🙄). Seems if he had done something serious, we would know by now! For CoHo, her book has never been about DV and she "doesn't write to educate". Justin was smart and tried to listen to the complaints, started working with No More before the directing of the movie even began. He tried to capitalize on the popularity of the book to spread a message and raise awareness around DV (and make money too, let's be honest, but I do believe his intentions were genuine). He pissed CoHo off who didn't share his vision. But Blake was aligned with Colleen as we saw on her interviews.. how tone deaf can those two be 😭? I mean, when one of them sells a coloring book/nail polish from a book centered around DV and the other one sells ALCOHOL after the movie's premiere of the said book AND names one of her cocktails after the abuser husband (Ryle you wait).. I think it's a lost cause. You can't make this up, can you?! Justin got kicked out of the movie he cared about because of power and money! His cut didn't go through thanks to the Reynold's power play and he was apparently asked by Sony to make the promo aside from Blake despite the fact that the investigations on set after her accusations weren't corroborated (shout out to Thought knots on tiktok whose take on the intimacy coordination was very interesting). Besides, the crew seems to be on Justin's side (which is a good indicator). The fact that Justin hired that PR manager and also the main cast staying aside him made me question if he had done something else but I think these actors just went along the power and money river.. no integrity at all!! Now I obviously understand why he felt he needed some PR help against the Goliath couple. This all goes to show how rotten this industry is!!! The PR's pink-pong is going to continue for a bit and entertain us until something else comes out. In the end, Blake is kind of a victim in a way because she's the embodiment of all of this. People don't really know what happened but she makes it easy for us to notice or at least be reminded of how OUT OF TOUCH and oblivious those A-list celebrities are. They need to touch grass and make amend... and maybe go to church 🤣🤣🤣 Nobody is going to read all of that but at least I got It out of my chest! Ted talk finished! 🙏✌
Hiring of the PR agency is only recent. Even without Justin Baldoni, Blake Lively is problematic. Justin did not make those comments or interviews during the press junkets. In fact, Justin never made any negative comments about her. Blake Lively did this to Blake Lively.
You can't go against Justin for choosing the book. Blake chose to be the producer and in it too. Blake obviously wanted to take over the whole movie and Justin kept getting pushed away. Im pretty sure Blake even convinced all the actors to go against Justin and promised them other roles.
See that's exactly what I hated about this, they obviously had their differences but recruiting people to ostracize someone is never okay. I like Blake and I hate to see the internet bullying her, it's quite annoying. Still it saddens me when people form alliance against a person, try to ruin their reputation or bully them.. this could have ruined Justin's probably why he got a pr team. Sad thing is he brought her on the project, even sadder she did not have this energy for Weinstein or Woody Allen.
Had Justin Baldoni approached Blake and had said to her ‘how much do you weigh because I’m going to hurt my back lifting you’ I could totally see how that could be taken offensively! But by the sounds of it, it was a private conversation between himself and his trainer, that Blake should never have heard…
After watching her video interviews, it's easy to understand why so many of us believe that Blake Lively didn't care about the message of this film and how this film. If Blake worked hard on this movie (as her family is now alleging) then it's because she wanted to use the press junket to push her brands. I'm over her. Who can we get to play Lily for the sequel?
Colleen Hoover loves to use intense subject matter and unhealthy relationship dynamics as window-dressing. She wants the excitement and intrigue that comes with heavy subject matter, but she also wants the hallmark movie ending of marriage and babies, so any exploration of a serious topic or a turbulent relationship comes across as shallow and inadequately written. if colleen hoover had written wuthering heights, it would have ended with catherine and heathcliff getting married and moving to the suburbs.
This is such an accurate representation of what I think so many ppl have felt about what her writing truly feels like omg…like you could not have said this any better
To be fair, I don't think it's just two people who don't like each other. Blake and Ryan's camp are actively trying to tarnish Justin's reputation. In the first article, they allude to Justin becoming the character who practices DV in the movie. That's a very damming thing to say because it would mean that Justin is manipulating the public's perception of him in a way that is completely contrary to who he portrays, this activist against misogyny and sexism. Then there was the issue of him possibly fat shaming her and taking too long to kiss her. Those are very serious allegations that call his character into question. If it was just that she didn't like him and vice versa, fine, the internet can go off and analyze everything under a microscope, spitgate 2.0, but these points raised by Blake's side are complicated if they were only raised because she didn't like him. She worked with Weinstein and Woody Allen and now she has to publicly say that this man was problematic on set? I don't want to take away from her experience, all of this could have happened, I don't know what happened on set, I know what was said by the "sources" on her side, her narrative even though she is not so upfront about it. Besides, Kjersti Flaa herself has already said that she wasn't hired or even contacted by Melissa, so the theory is that Justin and Melissa are hiring people to question Blake's character has already been put to bed. From what I see so far, Justin is trying to protect his public image while Blake and Ryan are trying to destroy it, not the other way around.
All of this could've been avoided if Justin and Blake talked things out from the start. She could've expressed her views, and he could have expressed his. The whole cast and crew could've even done the 'Mean Girls' trust fall, with Ryan joining in with "I just have a lot of feelings". He's Canadian, it makes sense. Everything would have been resolved if everyone had just learned to communicate effectively. The movie is dull, adapted from a poor-quality book, and it shouldn't have caused so much drama. It should have simply been released and faded away without much notice. As for all the cynics who like to attack just cuz someone seems too nice or fake, and the nuts who think everything has a vendetta, I believe it was the immortal Sam Puckett who said, "Stop watching, you big a bunch of losers. You're wasting your lives. Get a job, kiss a girl, do something!!!"
Given the history of back problems, I feel like Baldoni was well within his rights to ask Lively her weight. Not as an issue of her being "fat" but more so that he could be prepared to safely do the scene.
@@KnarfStein I agree, but Anyone But You DID interfere with production. Sydney’s fiance produced the movie and there was a lot of talk about what was really going on behind the scenes and how much he knew and agreed to.
It’s unlikely that It Ends With Us will get an Oscar nomination. Not to mention that this movie would be difficult to sell towards voters. Overall, It Ends With Us stories are getting bigger and crazier.
What is shocking to me, is that Blake seems to not understand that a movie with DV as core theme can not be promoted as feel good movie. It is sooo strange. They had the opportunity to start an important discussion and they made a soap opera out of it.
Yeah in retrospect maybe I didn’t word that the best, I meant that like, people have the most fun picking on them, it’s more likely to become an internet trend. but that kind of targeting is obviously not as serious as like other groups of people. My bad my bad
@@valkyrie2307beautiful women are always getting excused? Do you not remember when rachel ziegler was attacked for months on end for being ,,kinda rude" in interviews? Or reneè rapp? Hailey baldwin? Britney spears? Literally any public female figure that was involved in some petty drama? I feel like you don't, because ,,the public needs to be harsher on women" is a crazy idea
Great video, Kayla. I'm not defending anyone's harmful actions, but it's amazing to me how everyone's gone at Lively's throat, rehashing the same meager "rudeness" clips in their own grab for likes and clicks. Your video shows insight and points out so many interesting dynamics at play here. Next time there's a pile up of creators all talking about the same subject, maybe I'll just skip the redundant fu**ery and just find out what Kayla says.
Problematic stuff that she’s done put aside (basically just the wedding-plantation shit), I don’t feel like we know enough about Blake to act as if she’s Satan. I think Blake is selfish and insensitive, at worst. She’s not… I don’t know, worse than others who have gotten less flack for the same stuff.
Yeah to me it’s just a matter of pretty piss-poor media training. She just seems pretty tone-deaf and ignorant/insensitive in general, and with so many people historically admiring how “real” she and her husband are in the public eye, I wouldn’t be surprised if her team put faith in her winning smile and personality to push her through this campaign. It’s a lot more understandable when you try to consider that she may just be really excited about this new huge project of hers that she is hoping will rise her star in Hollywood, but she’s not seeing in the moment that the lighthearted tone she’s setting clashes really badly with the film’s subject matter. It’s the kind of unabashed attitude and aloofness that comes with someone who believes they have become untouchable
@@ten-ze1pq this is def a case of “someone who has never had a bad thing happen to them in their life is suddenly met with the raging public.” There’s hope for her yet. I think everyone needs to calm down.
@@magnoliaskogen because that is really bad and idk how to defend anyone for that. It was 12 years ago. This isn’t me saying to get over it, this is more like let’s look at what she’s doing right now at the moment. Obviously, it was still a stupid and immoral thing to do.
@@ten-ze1pq I agree with many of your points. This was a combination of very poor media training, the sense of entitlement from past problematic behavior being tolerant and being ignorant in regards to a serious topic like DV. Furthermore, I think her team underestimated the decline celebrity worship amongst the public since the pandemic. People are becoming more intolerant of celebrity shenanigans and aren't afraid to voice their displeasure. If she had taken a similar route to Justin Baldoni's promotion of the movie coupled with her "bubbly" personality/unabashed attitude, then I think she would have been received more favorably.
I really appreciate you presenting this information in as objective a way as you can. It's exhausting to see so many sources jumping on the gossip train
idk if this is controversial but Blake Lively is not a victim in this situation. not only does she have a history of problematic behavior (i'm looking at you, antebellum wedding) way worse than any on-set miscommunications from Baldoni, she also is framing this film as something it's not, and diminishing the importance of telling abuse stories with honesty and care.
Blake accidentally exposed taylor Swifts real personality. Their best friends and no way taylor isn't the same way. Their best friends because of their similarities in their personality, not their differences
One thing not mentioned here is that there were two cuts of the movie made. One was a cut Blake wanted. It was more comedic. The other was a cut the Justin wanted, which was the more serious take. They showed both to focus groups and Justin’s won out. It’s the one that hit theaters.
Wrong. The Lively cut is the one truer to the book that is in theaters. The Baldoni cut gave some bullshit tragic backstory to his abuser character. It was not necessarily a more 'serious' version of the story, it was one that centered the male abuser more.
It’s interesting how people kind of decide at the same time to hate a new celebrity each month. Now it’s Blake, last month it was Katy Perry, before that it was Jlo. I wonder who’s up for September 😂
I don’t think they’re the most targeted in the sense of like actual serious cyberbullying and mobbing, what I meant is that people love to dunk on them whether it’s justified or not. Maybe I could have worded it better
In the end you say that it would have been good to use this movie for awareness of DV and to help DV victims and survivors... So basically what ONLY Justin Baldoni has done until now??? Got it.
Baldoni hired the crisis pr firm after the journalist put the vid up and the backlash Blake was getting. it was after the pr attack on him making her uncomfortable on set etc. Leighton Meester is being vindicated lol
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Hello, just to clarify what I meant when I said white women are “targeted” online because clearly I didn’t word it the best, I meant that criticism toward their “downfalls” is more likely to be made into internet trending content, whether it’s justified or not. Obviously there are other groups of people whose harassment online is much more insidious and harmful, clearly I didn’t word that the best.
On a less serious note not enough of u are acknowledging Miku toxic gossip train at the end how dare u
thanks for clarifying (deletes paragraph)
@@kaylasays I think everyone is too stunned by the end song
Yeah it was maybe not worded the best way, I understood what you meant, and given your track record I was more than willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and assumed you meant that we see more of these issues in the mainstream, perpetuated against these white women. I would say that the framing does seem to imply white women are unfairly/targeted more often than other groups of women, but I would think it was down to survivorship bias.
We definitely see more news stories about white women in these situations, but I would wager that if we had WoC in as many high profile roles as white women, that the difference in the number of accusations would be fairly similar. Though I could also see WoC being targeted more often if there was equal representation, but that is pure speculation at that point.
i feel like when you brought up Justin's initial feelings when he brought the rights you should have also mentioned that he changed his view when he brought in "No More" and consulted with experts on DV. People can change their mind lol
And yet, they're still the ones getting the main roles. That's why you will never see women of color behaving like Lively has. They know their careers are much more at risk than those of the "poor white problematic women people love to dogpile on".
Seems like a lot of controversy about a very medicore movie based on a mediocre book that is not worth all the attention.
Agree 100%! The drama feels manufactured
Mediocre at best!
Starring an overrated, mediocre actress.
Yet here everyone is making a buck off of it and consuming it. It's actually not sbout the film at all btw. It's about the conduct of celebrities and asking them to have higher moral and ethical conduct.
And from a mediocre author.
As a girly with back issues, I see no problem with asking how to safely lift someone for a scene. Back pain is debilitating
As a girlie who has a close friend in their life with back pain l can empathise. My friend threw his back out, bending over to tie his shoe laces. 2 months in recovery after that random event. He's only in his thirties btw.
I would say context matters a lot - simply saying "I have back issues and have been told to be careful when lifting over 'X' weight how can we be safe about this?' vs 'how much do you weigh?'
Unfortunately we'll never know, but I could certainly see this being used as a dogwhistle/microaggresion though I would not say definitively either way.
Also, she's a thin woman.
Also, he could've hurt her too if his back couldn't take the weight and he collapsed. Guess she didn't think about that.
@@kezia8027 Apparently he asked the set trainer, who is there for the sole purpose of safety. He didn't ask her directly.
I think the reason it’s continued to get messy is because Blake doesn’t know how to be humble about this film and people are annoyed with the marketing. Why make a film about a character in an abusive relationship if you’re not going to mention DV in the marketing? Are they afraid that that will keep moviegoers away? Because I had no interest in seeing this before and I have no interest in seeing it now, not even if it becomes available with streaming. Also, the more people have spoken about the other books and experiences with the author, the less I want to support anything associated with her.
A lot of people on booktok are also really defensive of their favorite books. If you call it dv, they might get upset or defensive.
@operation_turtle but but... that's the most important aspect of the story... their relationship is meant to be depicted as toxic, controlling and then straight up abusive. Hoover says so herself. She's just not a good enough writer to do that kind of story justice.
CoHo is a former social worker 😭
I knew she was problematic. But omfg, it makes what she’s written and how she acts wayyyyy wrose
She was on the news everyday for her ridiculous dresses at the promotion, but none of it mentioned DV, or even the subject of the movie. The marketing is so wrong.
There's nothing the internet hates more than an annoying woman.
I think something almost nobody has mentioned is that Ryan Reynolds rewriting the rooftop scene is in direct violation to the WGA striking conditions of the time. Production was during the WGA strikes, and scripts that were being shot during this time had to be locked and not revised whatsoever. Christy Hall, the screenwriter, says she had no idea about this, so that also signifies Ryan rewrote it during the strike. That is a HUGE slap in the face to the hundreds of thousands of writers striking to receive fair pay and job security. It’s honestly absolutely heinous.
This! It says so much about their character. Meanwhile quite a number of well-known actors were marching alongside the writers during the strike.
PREACH! 🙌🏻👏🏻🙌🏻
Omg, you're *TOTALLY* right!
Not to mention he was at the forefront of those strikes. The hypocrisy
Honestly, that’s grounds to go on strike again.
In what world would Justin baldoni choose to take on two of the most powerful people in Hollywood just to “smear” Blake lively. IMO he is clearly playing defense up against a couple with a ton of pull and influence in that circle.
Forreal, the Reynolds and Lively fandom are… rabid on top of their financial Titan status.
This statement is 100% accurate
Yep and he clearly hired help when he realised that they'd spread that tip to the press about him being inappropriate on set so we're out to smear his reputation.
exactly
True
Really? They thought the Colleen Hoover adaptation would get her an Oscar nomination?
@@Josh-ez5hf 😂
I mean most Oscar noms and wins these days are usually adaptations like American Fiction, Poor Things, Killers of The Flower Moon, and The Colour Purple were all books first.
So they probably knew that fact with it being a NYT best seller, they probably didn't actually read or think it through enough lol
Lol right? As the kids say, delulu
who are they?
I am deceased. Everything I heard and seen from these books seem to be a glorified wattpad story written by a 13 year old. The names alone are evidence of that💀😂
It's ironic that Justin Baldoni, the director who also played the abuser, understands the subject matter of domestic abuse more than Blake Lively, who played the victim, and Colleen Hoover, the writer.
I mean, Colleen Hoover loves to fetishize victims of abuse in general, so this doesn't surprise me at all
It’s so interesting to me.
I find it very confusing how the WRITER is not more focusing on the TOPIC SHE WROTE ABOUT!!!
I was shocked to find out CH was a social worker before she started writing.
@amigdalagreenleaf6795 You shouldn't be. Social workers aren't inherently better. Some of them are great and mean well, but some take the job because they love drama and like feeling superior.
She felt fat shamed ? He did not ask her directly he asked her personal coach before a scene in which he was supposed to lift her up , now she says she felt that a kiss was lingering too much but he literally hired an intimacy coordinator who was on set all the time, I saw a behind the scene footage where they were kissing he was literally asking her where to put his hands while kissing her and said several times during press tour that he would let Blake lead the intimate scenes … so why is it coming out now all of a sudden when everybody is turning against her for her poor handling of the promotion ? That all thing is weird just like the fact that she hired the editor of Deadpool x Wolverine to do her own cut of the movie behind Justin’s back and presented it for test screenings ( but Justin’s cut was selected instead ) why kind of actor does that to the director who hired them ? I guess that’s why he says now that BL should direct the next movie. She tagged all the crew in her posts except Baldoni, it’s just as unprofessional as her way to promote the movie ( while promoting her husband, her hair care line, and Deadpool )
Just a small correction, she's not just an actor, she was also a producer of the movie - meaning she's the one getting the money and distributing the budget for the movie. Whatever needs to be added or removed, and whoever wants to put money into the project, goes through her, at least in theory.
This is all so gross and I'm so glad ppl see.thru this and see justin is being targeted cuz he was making her look bad by having a heart while promoting it and being real and didn't even shit talk her , he was so classy about it ! But ppl caught on and she didn't like that , he's trying to fulfill a dream and his passion and she has motives in every aspect of this , signing on to the movie as well as promoting its all money and privous cast mates don't like her , gossip girl , traveling pants 2 project where the cast was so close and Leighton meister has openly hated blake livley and where is she today? Same place justin would be had the internet not protected him from her and her husband who are one of if not the most powerful couple in Hollywood
@@LunaWitcherArt not going to lie - I genuinely don't think the money behind the movie should be acting in the movie. doesn't it feel a little..... "you bought the role" ?
"Wear your overalls because it's over" is the funniest thing I have ever heard.
Then she begins the next sentence with “overall, …” 🤣
That one really sent me! 😂😂
It almost sounds like a rap lyric 😂
In no world should a movie based on a Colleen Hoover book win anything beyond a Razzy. Woof.
The fact that she had the audacity to publish it in the first place is what astounds me 🤯
@@Fiisvii honestly it just goes to show that for anyone scared about trying to get their writing published because they think it's not good enough, you should at least try. after all, your writing is probably not worse than this.
FACTS!
@@fancybyfolly😂
I think even the Razzies have higher standards...
I’m just gonna chime in to say that Justin Baldoni has demonstrably done a lot of work to combat toxic masculinity and so I’m at least inclined to believe his sincerity about the movie. It would be a shame to lose such advocacy in media, whether because of a petty squabble or turning out to be problematic.
It really is a shame because his heart is in the right place from what I've seen, he just chose the wrong book to adapt and the wrong people to work with
@@madsyxx I personally believe there was a lot of interference that hindered the adaptation. Having the author on set can be really difficult if they are not willing to actually adapt the story (E.L. James famously was a nightmare in 50 Shades - the team wanted to elevate the movie and make it better, but she wanted it to be exactly as the book, which made for a bad movie) and are just there to make sure it is as faithful as possible. Justin would be the type of person to handle this story with care, but Colleen probably had her own ideas of how the movie should go, and I'm sure that caused clashes on set.
@@LunaWitcherArt Definitely, and considering the way the book was marketed (IEWU nail polish duo??) she was probably on board with the rom com approach
Clicked faster than Blake responded to that reporter with "Congrats on YOUR bump"
Oof, was just trying to forget about that 😂
Her reply was so stupid and so stupidly constructed that I cringed for hours after I watched it the first time
NOOOOOOOOOO
That interview confused me because what was the interviewer referring to when she said “congrats on your bump”. Was Blake pregnant??
@@dalia5964 yes she was
As a DV survivor, all I know is that one of these people is showing women like me compassion in promoting this movie, and the other one is making fun of us by telling us to wear florals and use special hair products while we go get triggered by this nonsense. Team Justin and I don't care if this means I'm falling for PR. Impact versus intent. This is the impact made on me.
I'm sorry for what you've been through ❤
the way u predicted ryan n blake downfall is crazy
Ryan is basically just Dennis from always sunny. I'll die on that hill.
@@caseyw.6550 at least Dennis' psychopathy is kinda sexy sometimes, in a way Ryan Reynolds could never pull off lmao
Is there another video on their downfall?
Ryan has a “downfall”? It wont happen as long as he’s still playing Deadpool. Not defending him tho.
@@benjaminherrera1987 🤣
That PR firm also was hired by the teenager who took the video of George Floyd’s death - i wouldn’t use their most famous client as a reason to say they’re always on the wrong side
Exactly
She was promoting that movie as it if was barbie
I had no idea this movie was about domestic violence before I heard of this drama
She also used as a 'for your consideration' to get the role in the Britney biopic
Truely!
why do people assume there’s some grand villainy rather than just assuming people just don’t get along very well
YES THIS!!!!
Probably because of "sources" saying the director made them feel "uncomfortable"
@@bigbearkat2010 you mean Blake Lively PR team
@@nad0862 I wouldn't be shocked if that turned out to be the case
@@bigbearkat2010lol! I like you used quotation for those two words 😂 facts
Baldoni has every right to hire a PR crisis team. It must be FRIGHTENING to be in his situation.
maybe dont hire the one responsible for smearing a DV survivor's reputation...?
@sortasofi254 exactly , I never understand people being so die hard for Johnny depp and ignoring thr serious allegations
@@sortasofi254 did you follow the same trial ? Johnny Depp is actually the DV survivor get your facts straight ! And do you think that JD was their only client ?
@@sortasofi254need I remind you that the dv survivor you are caping for was arrested for being a dv abuser as far back as 2009. She's no innocent victim
@@sortasofi254 my initial reaction was the same, but when you consider many PR firms represent a wide roster of talents - both good, bad, and everything in between and when you're being smeared with vague posts, unsubstantiated rumors from "sources", and being framed in a villain role while also playing an abuser in a movie? i could understand the choice.
Great video! The thing that really bothers me about this whole mess is when Blake says Ryan wrote the rooftop scene, because the actual screenwriter, Christy Hall, has said that what's in the movie is still her scene. Sure, there were a few details that she initially thought were improv that may have come from Reynolds, but to say he wrote the entire rooftop scene is giving him credit for another woman's work. Considering how much Lively and Reynolds both claim to be feminists, this leaves a really bad taste in my mouth.
It's very common to change scenes in real time. She assumed it was improv changes because the writers strike means she or another writer couldn't be there. So it must have been Justin and Blake cause they're basically the only 2 ALLOWED to make the cha fes. She is very tactfully side stepping Ryan crossed the picket line because it's actually a very big deal(I'm sure the union will turn a blind eye). It's not that he didn't change anything. It's that he did and he broke the rules to do so.
@@ruminationstation4200THIS!!! I just mad a comment on this. More than anything, I feel like this genuinely made me loose respect for the both of them.
@@ruminationstation4200 That's such a good point!
I saw Justin Baldoni hiring the PR team as a director not as an actor. It looks like he understands that if Blake looks bad, the movie looks bad which makes him as a director look bad. He’s trying to save the movie.
Even if he did hire them for himself, so what? There is indeed a scandal happening. Id want a pro too. You don't need to be guilty to get smeared.
Baldoni wanted the film to get attention not this drama. I can see why he hired a PR team. He doesn’t like this drama.
@@ruminationstation4200 THAT is for DAMN sure!
Im sorry, no. The movie was doomed the second the DIRECTOR with THE RIGHTS TO THE MOVIE decided to also PLAY THE ABUSER IN THE MOVIE.
The power imbalance between director and actor is already there, and then to add on top of it Justin owning the rights to the movie itself, PERSONALLY SCOUTING Blake Lively and playing opposite her in the film is an atrocity. It's a one-way ticket to ruining everything. He has to direct, but he also has to tackle the film from the angle of an abuser, and then he has the sole responsibility of making sure his cast feels comfortable and safe, when he also plays the very character that's supposed to make them feel the opposite. EVERYONE who said that this was a good idea must have been high or something, because there are too many blurred lines there.
Im not saying I support either Blake or Justin in this situation, but I dont think he has the insight he claims he has into DA, because if he truly understood the seriousness of it, he would have tackled this film differently, and he would have made sure that the person supposed to hurt people on screen, wasnt also their boss.
I dont understand why I havent seen anyone bring this up, because what the actual hell 💀 and then in hindsight seeing the fallout of the movie... Im not at all suprised that there's a distance between the cast and the director here.
He had to be really stupid to pay a PR team to spread gossip and drama that could ruim his film and his career as a director. Like, Olivia Wilde was one year ago.
3:25 I'm sorry they wanted Blake to win an Oscar from this? 💀Do they know what Oscar-worthy performances look like?
@@madsyxx Probably not. 😂
Delusion: convince yourself.
Oscars will crumble as badly as the olympics did
I don’t know, it seems to me that everyone took Blake Lively’s side because they wanted to be in her and Ryan Reynold’s good graces. Especially Colleen Hoover herself
I tend to agree. The proximity to mega celebrity is a heady drug for some people. I think the entire cast took the hit.
On top of that BL and her husband are producers on this movie , and it seems that BL is set to direct the sequel… most people’s loyalty follow their own interest it’s not about who is right or wrong
Well never expected from CoHo, the person who tried to make a coloring book on a novel about DV. Also the person who shamed a girl who alleged her son of SAing her.
If Colleen Hoover is on one side, chances are the other side is right.
i don't bat for either team. while i've enjoyed work by both actors, i think the reason blake is getting more heat than justin - outside of the way each marketed the movie once promo began - is that blake has a recorded history of not reading a room. from the way she wrote an entire blog post about the beauty of antebellum as an aesthetic, to having a wedding on a plantation with slave quarters as a reception backdrop, to rude moments and now this promotion, there's a consistent pattern of behavior of not seeing the forest for the trees and then either playing deer in headlights or trying to re-frame the narrative in your favor. admitting your husband was a scab during the strike to write a scene in your movie, without the writer even knowing? promoting hair care and alcohol and a floral aesthetic? being your own intimacy coordinator despite hiring one, to then possibly plant stories of discomfort? completely re-tooling the movie with your own editors? each new story has/had solutions at their disposal and each new story makes it feel more and more like those solutions were ignored for self-interest.
Great nuanced take.
Ryan writing during the SAG strike seems like the biggest slap in the face to the movie of all because of how many actors stood in solidarity with the writers. It really says something about both of their characters that they thought that was okay.
thank you, its not just because shes the new white lady to hate of the month. She has a history of being a weird little mean girl
What is a “scab” though? (Just asking) thank you
@@abbiedpeople who break away from a strike for their own self interest
How the internet never cared for Blake Lively
😅 facts
No seriously all I knew was Gossip Girl(which I never watched) and her being wife of Reynolds and friend of Taylor Swift 🤷♀️
@@poppyspoping3979 same. Her MANY privileges are doing a lot of heavy lifting. 💅
@@caseyw.6550 facts
@poppyspoping3979 Same 😭. I'm kind of taking the guy's side on this since he's treating the subject matter (and indirectly victims) with the seriousness/tenderness that it needs to have. Blake is promoting a hair care line and telling people to wear pretty flowers.
So far I'm team Baldoni. Lively and Reynolds look like such control freaks that need to be in the spotlight and controling the narrative no matter what. He seems to actually wanting to tell something with the movie unlike those other two that are seeing it just as a publicity vehicle. I could be wrong tho, there has to be a reason why everyone in the crew sided with Lively.
She is set to direct the sequel, she is more famous, she is the producer of the movie, she is a woman, she is the wifey of Ryan Reynolds … that’s a few reasons to side with her in my opinion
Lively has power in the industry AND secures them a job for the second film. Their professional interests are on the line.
@@nad0862Because for employment protection---you KISS the asses you have to kiss...aka-- don't bite the hand that feeds you
She's also a nepo baby which most people either forget or don't know. So her family is deep rooted in Hollywood so she has a lot of power and a lot of influence. As well, it's been noted that Ryan has accumulated a certain amount of power and influences himself that he can shove people off of his own projects which he has done for Deadpool. So there are just certain people you don't mess with. If you want to still have a job the next day. And the Reynolds are two of them.
Kayla has posted. Grab your friends, wear your florals, and get ready for a recap of this mess.
I will say, this persona Blake has adopted during this press cycle comes across as the least charming, insufferable aspects of Ryan Reynolds’ snarky bit. Frankly it would be easy for Justin to get all the heat if that persona didn’t feel disingenuous. At the same time, Justin’s public notoriety based on this seems messy, but I’m here with the popcorn. The best sequel to Don’t Worry Darling we’ll ever get.
I saw Justin Baldoni hiring the PR team as a director not as an actor. It looks like he understands that if Blake looks bad, the movie looks bad which makes him as a director look bad. He’s trying to save the movie.
In what world would Justin baldoni choose to take on two of the most powerful people in Hollywood just to “smear” Blake lively. IMO he is clearly playing defense up against a couple with a ton of pull and influence in that circle.
@@jiyaaaaaaa.j I think you’re right based on the context. As the director, it’s a savvy move. I do think the Lively-Reynolds cache is running its course.
Blake lively had her wedding at a PLANTATION. she’s not just a white woman promoting a DV movie as a romcom, she uses her celebrity status to get away with her horrible actions. regardless of this whole situation, she’s BEEN a bad person.
She and Ryan weren’t celebrating slavery clown and I’m pretty sure other people got married there so are you gonna cancel everyone who’s gotten married there ? And almost every land has a dark history so maybe go touch grass
EXACTLY
This!
@@sophiaa7995 I'm more of the impression that the commenter was saying that promoting a film about dv as a romcom AND marrying on a plantation on top of being a rich influential person who can twist her image to avoid accountability is the problematic part, not sure how you reached the conclusion that "white woman" was meant to be the problematic side lmao
@@chxilya thank you! this is exactly how i meant it
I think the drama and speculation is more interesting than the movie
Agreed. It is so entertaining
A raw potato is more interesting and entertaining than Blake Lively.
Honestly same & I read the book😂
@valkyrie2307 For real tho!! Atleast potatoes can be versatile 🤷🏻♀️
@@thtswutshesaid 😂😂😂
The drama and speculation is more interesting than the film itself
Bro.
no doubt
Like Don't Worry Darling all over again
to quote an iconic and true next top model quote…. some people have war in their countries.
Waaait wait this is so familiar. From which cycle was this again and who said it? Was it Natasha?
But you care enough to watch this video instead of one about war.
You're kind of a hypocrite
Natasha!!
@@ultraviolettas right!! Man I loved her. She was hilarious 😂😂
Baldoni's quote about the book being "sexy" is being taken out of context. He was referring to how the book was painted to him vs the horrifying disturbing content that it's actually filled with. Ironically that discrepancy is exactly what you see in the marketing - Blake painting it as a cute romcom vs him continually talking about the dark DV nature of it.
Thank you for pointing that out.
I’m not gonna lie I haven’t seen anyone turn against Justin, other comments sections have seemed very in Justin’s favor. Also, Ryan should be kicked out of the WGA for crossing the picket line and I’m furious the writer’s guild has refused to stick up for other writers in this instance.
Absolutely agree
One thing I will say is that I watched @NicoleRafiee do a video about the movie/drama and her take on the book/movie was interesting. She states that not only did she witness domestic violence from her father but also fell victim to it herself and she sees the tone how things are portrayed (especially the movie being less violent) as helpful as they may be more likely to convince someone that they are in fact in an abusive relationship, because a lot of people tend to blow off troubling signs (I've done this myself) because they see domestic abuse as super explosive and obvious.
I just finished watching her video
Exactly. I haven't watched the movie but I read the book and found the book to be realistic. The fact that people can see the violence but also feel drawn to him in the good moments IS THE POINT. It isn't glorifying DV that Hoover make him attractive. It is showing how easy it is to get trapped. There is cycle of harm to reconciliation to harm to reconciliation. I think that's why Justin keeps pointing out he doesn't want this movie to lead to questions of "why did she stay?" This isn't on victims to solve. He says the question should be instead, "why do men harm?" and I agree. It is on the abusers to do better. It is on the abusers to do the work to manage their emotions properly.
@@CMarie2415 I think the issue some people have with her writing is that a lot of the troubling behaviors that Ryle displays, the non-violent ones, exist in Colleen’s other male love interests in other books, but are only seen as problematic in “It Ends with Us.” So there’s a romanticizing of misogynistic/paternalistic/jealous behaviors in all of her books.
Kersti Flaa (the lady who interviewed Blake in 2016) was interviewed yesterday about this whole mess. She said that it felt like taking a bullet when Blake congratulated her on her bump...because she's infertile and unable to have children. I can't imagine how she felt which makes the comment even more cruel.
Yeah, Blake was really odd in that interview. I understand that those press junkets are probably really tedious, and she was pregnant and probably tired and hormonal, but she was totally rude, as was Parker.
I’ll just say it. Blake hasn’t done anything of note besides marry Ryan Reynolds since Gossip Girl. She wants to buy her way to movie stardom but she plays herself in everything and is so bland and cheesy.
I feel like she has struggled to get on that A-list level. Having done movies like ‘The Shallows’ and ‘A Simple Favor’ are just proof she’s trying to climb to the top. The fact that her husband (Ryan Reynolds) is always loosely involved in her movies just goes to show.
As somebody who kinda hated the movie and hated the book even more I’m so invested in this IEWU discourse 😭
Why did you dislike the book? I was interested in reading it but after breaking dawn from Stephanie Meyers I lost interest in book to movie adaptations
@@m3l0nL3M0N it romanticises DV and the book is just not written well at all. Plus apparently her son, was accused of SA of a 16 year old girl and Colleen Hoover defended her son and called the girl a liar.
@@sophiesoph_08 thank you, that explains everything I needed to know. The author is a goofball and this is coming from someone who read 1q84 by Haruki Murakami.
Why did you see the movie if you hated the book? I’m quite curious.
@@BbGun-lw5vime and my friend went to see it because it was something to do. Sort of went in with the intention of hate watching but the move ended up being better than the book.
Not the cursed ukulele song at the end 😂 also thanks for the reminder of the Chris Pine spit take, that was the funniest part of the previous movie drama
The “grab your girls and wear your florals” is insane when the movie contains domestic violence and the whole point is to escape abuse; just that shows how she cares more about people watching a movie that she’s in.
It seems that the more I hear about this movie, the more I think it’s the new Don’t Worry Darling.
It's the same tbh. I didn't see Don't Worry Darling, and I hate Colleen Hoover, but I know enough about both to know that they are the same.
Don’t Worry Darling had some interesting ideas and great cinematography, but the drama behind that movie was so much more entertaining 😂
Let’s not pretend that if either one of the people in this situation were black or a person of color, everyone wouldn’t disproportionately be attacking them over their white counterpart. This whole situation sucks all around but white women will always be relatively safe in their career compared to literally any other minority group when it comes to PR situations like this. Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni will come out of this relatively unscathed. But if Blake were a Black woman, not nearly as many commentators would be coming to her defense.
I disagree. People sniff out disingeniouness in people, no matter the race. Amber Heard did not fair well, neither did Katherine Heigl. Add Sharon Stone in there too. Also, not many people are coming to defend Lively. If you see life through a lens of color, that's what you will see, even if it may not be there.
@@Uilani-g4m I’m not negating the experiences of Amber Heard or Katherine Heigl. But look at the careers of women like Nicole Beharie or Mo’Nique who were blacklisted under much smaller circumstances and maybe you’ll understand the nuance of what I’m saying.
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Yes!
@@Uilani-g4m while people will jump to the occasion to shame white women, because they're women, women of color will always get it worse because on top of misogyny they're subjected to racism too and it's tiring to pretend the opposite
I'd personally disagree - Are we seeing a case of two celebrities feuding, thus making them both suck, or are we seeing a celebrity, who holds greater power in the power dynamic, attempting to alienate the other, which the public caught on to? The PR attacks and the 'feud' looks to be one sided, whereas Justin has been authenticly himself throughout.
Agreed.
The back and lifting thing isn’t exactly right. Apparently, he was asking advice from the trainer about how much he should train in order to safely lift Blake Lively. He at no point apparently spoke to Blake Lively about her weight. Word just got back to Blake Lively that Justin Baldoni was concerned about his back and was training to lift her and she took it personally.
Which, in my opinion, is extremely unprofessional on Lively’s part. If you look at how dancers or ice skaters who work with partners train compared to those who don’t, they do a lot more squats and upper body work outs so they avoid injuries to not just themselves but to their partners.
There is a creator on YT and Tiktok who speaks to this very exact point. Her name is Anna-Lee Wright and I think she works as a dancer/actor on Broadway shows. She had a nuanced and relatively neutral take on the situation as someone who has worked in the entertainment industry. I would recommend her videos (they are pretty short). She also talks about the role of intimacy coordinators in the field.
You also forgot the fact she posted a skit with Ryan Reynalds interviewing her love interest in the movie, the one she doesn't want to kill right now, where Reynalds acts jealous and threatening, and then his mom and Hugh Jackman do the same thing.
Like, they really chose to do the jealous husband gag for a movie about domestic violence.
It's like the cast in a George Floyd movie do a commedy skit where they are bullied by cops.
Oh god, so out of touch
Yeah, they were trying to make the marketing fun and viral… but this is not the kind of movie to do that with. Imagine if the cast behind ‘The Fault in Our Stars’ pulled these kinds of stunts…
8:25 just wanted to mention that his full statement leaves a different impression than when you singled out the part where he said it was sexy. I think you took this part out of context because no, he didn’t just leave it at ‘it was sexy’ which changes the entire context of his statement.
Edit: you mentioned yourself that Colleen Hoover’s books tend to be more on the spicy side so him calling the book “sexy, romantic and mysterious” is not that off since there were spicy scenes. He also mentions how he was in tears at the end which alludes to it being more than what he said of it in his previous comment. No he didn’t outright mention the DV in that scenario, but his statement is not the same as Blake Lively trying to pass the film as the 2nd Barbie movie or a romantic, feel-good chick-flick. I don’t know this man enough to swear by him so I won’t, but I do think you misconstrued his words in this instance.
This. She misrepresented Baldoni's comment in this video and it's betraying a certain bias. Like, yes, the book IS sexy and romantic to begin with. That's the point. The abuse and violence starts after the honeymoon period. It's why the marketing for the movie can get away with spinning that it's a flowery love story (with a twist!!). Baldoni's comment reflects that this was his experience reading the book. Spinning it like he finds abuse sexy is... grasping at straws.
@@anotherjellyfish1450 you took the words right out of my mouth. I too sensed the thinly veiled bias every time she addressed Baldoni.
I never liked Blake and Ryan. I mean, if you get married on a plantation and run a lifestyle blog romanticizing the antebellum…no. All I need to know.
That part .
EXACTLY!!!!
I wasn't aware of any of that. 👀
Same i wasnt aware of that.
Wait hold on, I knew about the thing about Blake and Ryan getting married on a plantation (but not about her running a lifestyle blog romanticizing the antebellum) 🙀🙀🙀🙀
if blake wants an oscar nom, wouldn't it make more sense to potray the film as something serious instead of a rom com?
Even after dozens of footage showing Blake being a bully, the thing that's going to bring her down is her pursuit of trying to make Justin Baldoni look like a predator. "This one kiss. . .he lingered too long and made me feel uncomfortable." What girl?! What actor is going to want to work with her? He'll be taking a chance on being accused of se*ual harassment, or se*ual assault. What actor can be hirable after "Deadpool's" BULLY wife labels you as a predator? She intentionally slandered Justin. What she didn't count on was Justin taking the high road. He's coming out looking like a professional dedicated to getting the word out about DV, whereas Deadpool's BULLY wife is all about fashion and fragrance and false allegations about her co-star.
"The Toxic Gossip Train" cover in the credits end got me real good
No one is adding in the weird thing that was Blake’s and Anna Kendrick’s press tour drama/PR stunt which I still am not sure if it was truly fake or real. But Blake also got called out by America during the filming of Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants series. Again, not sure if any of it’s real and I honestly love to be a cheerleader of Blake’s but these are patterns to keep in mind.
I think that's the key. It's a reoccuring pattern. Once, you can dismiss it but when it is a series of the same behavior. That is harder to ignore. It's kinda like if you've been divorced 5 times. You're the problem.
America Ferrera? (I love her) what did Blake do to her? 😭
@@Uilani-g4mJ. Lo be like 😂
Well perhaps love is a bit strong of a word (I like America) is what I mean and America seems like cool peoples so I wonder what happened there
exaclty, very suprising that was left out the video and instead aimed for the " yeah shes a white woman and the internet likes to hate on them post amber heard trial"
If Baldoni is running a smear campaign on Blake Lively, he’s doing a really weird job of it seeing as how he says nothing bad about her.
Also, it's not a smear campaign to bring attention to someone's poor behaviour, past or present, that they participated in of their own volition. That's just presenting the facts. A smear campaign is a distortion of truth that switches the roles of perpetrator and victim.
Justin is so deeply thoughtful and open that he made me cry. I'm literally shocked at the difference in their atitude about everything.
A male is more sensitive and caring, than both Colleen and Blake, two mature women. What is going on, it's truly heartbreaking. He had to separate himself from them to focus on the main message and offer closure to DV victims, as Blake is worried about haircare and floral dresses. Wtf
Ehh... somehow, I think he's not innocent in this. It's like he was always trying too hard to be so nice.
@@karlaleaverton8783 God forbid someone be "too nice"
He may be hiding something, I can't tell, but he comes off as really genuine, while Blake comes off like an airhead who has no clue what she's doing.
Everything I have learned about this book/movie has been against my will
Same 😭
Trash is just corny, white women are just so bored and basic
Exactly 💯
Me too
Baldoni may be doing PR plus but he can’t make Blake treat this movie as the next Barbie. That’s a choice she is making on her own and it’s not doing her any favours.
your take about the women card that the internet has chosen to hate on blake bcoz she is a woman is absolutely wrong. we do not know what happened during production but we can clearly see two sides and who is right in promoting tje film in how it should be promoted and how the other side keeps talking about hair,dresses,shoes,rings etc. its justin baldoni's way of tackling the issue of dv gaining him support and not because he is a man. blake is getting hate for what she is doing in the promotions and not bcoz she is a woman.
I love your channel but really?? 'Everyone loves to pile on semi-problematic WHITE women in Hollywood and that's just a fact?' Seriously??? 👀 Cuz Amber Heard got piled on?
It's the lack of intersectional feminism for me. Hollywood has 1000 Blake Livelys and Amber Heards and maybe one Lupita. If Lupita was as tone deaf as Blake, if her man rewrote part of a script in a project without consulting the screenwriter, whether she was producer or not, we'd never hear from her again. Especially after the writers were just on strike. She'd be cancelled immediately. She has an Oscar. Hell, people piled on Simone Biles bc her hair was messy while she was competing during the Olympics. They piled on Jordan Chiles after her medal got taken away bc her coach did her job... These Black women are champions and still get dogged. So, let's keep it in perspective.🙄 Semi-problematic White women can keep being mid and folks still applaud them and worry ab their feelings.
Hey, totally understand where you’re coming from, see my pinned comment. I definitely could have worded that section better.
@@brownenerdygurl Right? I side-eyed that part so hard.
I agree with it needing to be worded better, but Kayla said smth along the lines on her pinned comment. However I think this was more so meant in comparison to men rather than poc women. Bc of course you are right, if that was a black woman, things would go way more differently. But compared to men.. the way generally women’s scandals (justified or not)are so dramatized and it’s like hungry wolves waiting for a woman to slip up, meanwhile dudes get away with a lot more and a lot longer. And that’s what you happen to see with the white ladies rn. I think that’s what what the piling on means 😅
But yeah it’s misogyny. And if that woman happens to be black, then racism comes to that misogyny. Yikes.
@@kaylasays would like to add that Amber heard was in fact the abuser and not the other way around. There is evidence proving that fact along with her admitting in recording that she hit him. She lost the case due to her own lies and actions not because the media was against women. I would suggest doing proper research before making statements that say otherwise.
@@kaylasays it seems like you are wanting to believe Blake is the victim in this situation
I have no knowledge of the behind-the-scenes acting scene, or much of The End Of Us, but I’m going to promote engagement. So here’s my recipe for Buffalo Sauce:
Mix together 1 cup Frank’s red hot sauce, 1/3 cup canola oil, 1 tsp Worcestershire sauce, 1 tsp garlic powder, 1 tsp red cayenne pepper, a couple grinds of fresh black pepper, and a pinch of salt.
Put on medium heat till boiling, reduce to a simmer for five minutes. Take it off the heat source for ten minutes.
While that is cooling, take 1 tbsp cornstarch and 1 tbsp water, mix to make a slurry, then blend the cornstarch mix with 1 egg yolk. This is going to operate as both a thickener and an emulsifier.
After the ten minutes have passed, pour the sauce onto the emulsifier while stirring constantly. I’d recommend having a second person help here.
It’s fine to be used now, but I’d recommend refrigerating for at least an hour first. You can keep it jarred in the fridge, but it’s going to get more nuclear the longer you hold off on using it.
Thanks for the recipe!
Thank you!
Laughing so hard but also screenshoted the comment 😂
Wholeheartedly agree with the thesis of this video but there’s something sinister about blake and her husband ganging up on this relatively unknown director idk idk
i dont know or care who is "wrong" or "right". i care that it seems that blake intentionally is interested in marketing it as anything but what the movie is about. no wonder the trailers were fucking confusing, the two people in charge were butting heads.
i will say that that one comment from justin baldoni calling it sexy and mysterious is not inflammatory enough for me to turn my head. i havent read the book, but im sure there are sexy parts in it, considering colleen hoovers capabilities and understanding of her own work, but regardless he has seemingly come around to understanding the gravity of the more serious aspects of the work.
the interview wasnt reuploaded. it was uploaded for the first time bc the interviewer didnt want backlash or retaliation
I know we’re not supposed to choose sides but it’s really hard to side with Blake and her husband. maybe Justin baldoni shoiodnt have choose that book to adapt but I don’t think he should he nailed on the cross for that…at the very least he choose to promote the film in a sensitive way….
0:11 - You severely underestimate the power of the internet.
Justin is mature and is addressing the very serious topic of domestic violence. Blake is immature and is talking about butts, fashion and superficial silly things. Justin has done nothing wrong, Blake needs to take a good look at her behaviour.
Omg girl, your opinion on this has so much nuance and gives such “calm down and take a step back” energy. Much needed on the internet ❤
This 'fued' really feels like a nothing burger.
Agree that this is a book adaptation that should have never happened. But its been adapted and any meaningful conversation that could have happened has been throughly buried
Are you aware that some tiktokers were silenced not to say threatened to stop posting against Blake because something big would come out? Turns out, nothing came out (weight/kiss thing 🙄). Seems if he had done something serious, we would know by now! For CoHo, her book has never been about DV and she "doesn't write to educate". Justin was smart and tried to listen to the complaints, started working with No More before the directing of the movie even began. He tried to capitalize on the popularity of the book to spread a message and raise awareness around DV (and make money too, let's be honest, but I do believe his intentions were genuine). He pissed CoHo off who didn't share his vision. But Blake was aligned with Colleen as we saw on her interviews.. how tone deaf can those two be 😭? I mean, when one of them sells a coloring book/nail polish from a book centered around DV and the other one sells ALCOHOL after the movie's premiere of the said book AND names one of her cocktails after the abuser husband (Ryle you wait).. I think it's a lost cause. You can't make this up, can you?! Justin got kicked out of the movie he cared about because of power and money! His cut didn't go through thanks to the Reynold's power play and he was apparently asked by Sony to make the promo aside from Blake despite the fact that the investigations on set after her accusations weren't corroborated (shout out to Thought knots on tiktok whose take on the intimacy coordination was very interesting). Besides, the crew seems to be on Justin's side (which is a good indicator). The fact that Justin hired that PR manager and also the main cast staying aside him made me question if he had done something else but I think these actors just went along the power and money river.. no integrity at all!! Now I obviously understand why he felt he needed some PR help against the Goliath couple. This all goes to show how rotten this industry is!!! The PR's pink-pong is going to continue for a bit and entertain us until something else comes out. In the end, Blake is kind of a victim in a way because she's the embodiment of all of this. People don't really know what happened but she makes it easy for us to notice or at least be reminded of how OUT OF TOUCH and oblivious those A-list celebrities are. They need to touch grass and make amend... and maybe go to church 🤣🤣🤣 Nobody is going to read all of that but at least I got It out of my chest! Ted talk finished! 🙏✌
This
Hiring of the PR agency is only recent. Even without Justin Baldoni, Blake Lively is problematic. Justin did not make those comments or interviews during the press junkets. In fact, Justin never made any negative comments about her. Blake Lively did this to Blake Lively.
Kayla saaaaaaaays
Ill sing the little tune randomly through the day
Until last night I thought it said I'm dancing 💀
You can't go against Justin for choosing the book. Blake chose to be the producer and in it too. Blake obviously wanted to take over the whole movie and Justin kept getting pushed away. Im pretty sure Blake even convinced all the actors to go against Justin and promised them other roles.
See that's exactly what I hated about this, they obviously had their differences but recruiting people to ostracize someone is never okay. I like Blake and I hate to see the internet bullying her, it's quite annoying. Still it saddens me when people form alliance against a person, try to ruin their reputation or bully them.. this could have ruined Justin's probably why he got a pr team. Sad thing is he brought her on the project, even sadder she did not have this energy for Weinstein or Woody Allen.
Had Justin Baldoni approached Blake and had said to her ‘how much do you weigh because I’m going to hurt my back lifting you’
I could totally see how that could be taken offensively! But by the sounds of it, it was a private conversation between himself and his trainer, that Blake should never have heard…
"Arrive wet."
Peak Titanic style tip.
After watching her video interviews, it's easy to understand why so many of us believe that Blake Lively didn't care about the message of this film and how this film. If Blake worked hard on this movie (as her family is now alleging) then it's because she wanted to use the press junket to push her brands. I'm over her. Who can we get to play Lily for the sequel?
Colleen Hoover loves to use intense subject matter and unhealthy relationship dynamics as window-dressing. She wants the excitement and intrigue that comes with heavy subject matter, but she also wants the hallmark movie ending of marriage and babies, so any exploration of a serious topic or a turbulent relationship comes across as shallow and inadequately written. if colleen hoover had written wuthering heights, it would have ended with catherine and heathcliff getting married and moving to the suburbs.
This is such an accurate representation of what I think so many ppl have felt about what her writing truly feels like omg…like you could not have said this any better
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Agreed
To be fair, I don't think it's just two people who don't like each other. Blake and Ryan's camp are actively trying to tarnish Justin's reputation. In the first article, they allude to Justin becoming the character who practices DV in the movie. That's a very damming thing to say because it would mean that Justin is manipulating the public's perception of him in a way that is completely contrary to who he portrays, this activist against misogyny and sexism. Then there was the issue of him possibly fat shaming her and taking too long to kiss her. Those are very serious allegations that call his character into question. If it was just that she didn't like him and vice versa, fine, the internet can go off and analyze everything under a microscope, spitgate 2.0, but these points raised by Blake's side are complicated if they were only raised because she didn't like him. She worked with Weinstein and Woody Allen and now she has to publicly say that this man was problematic on set? I don't want to take away from her experience, all of this could have happened, I don't know what happened on set, I know what was said by the "sources" on her side, her narrative even though she is not so upfront about it. Besides, Kjersti Flaa herself has already said that she wasn't hired or even contacted by Melissa, so the theory is that Justin and Melissa are hiring people to question Blake's character has already been put to bed. From what I see so far, Justin is trying to protect his public image while Blake and Ryan are trying to destroy it, not the other way around.
I feel like this is only the beginning for CoHo book to film adaptations 😭 imagine if they make fucking Verity into a movie
I feel so certain Verity will be adapted!
Oh hell nah! That book makes Twilight look like an Oscar-winning masterpiece.
Oh gosh 🤮🫣😬
Or the one where the girl falls in love with the guy who committed arson and nearly killed her
Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds is the 2020s equivalent to the Mila Kunis and Ashton Kutcher of the 2010s
All of this could've been avoided if Justin and Blake talked things out from the start. She could've expressed her views, and he could have expressed his. The whole cast and crew could've even done the 'Mean Girls' trust fall, with Ryan joining in with "I just have a lot of feelings". He's Canadian, it makes sense. Everything would have been resolved if everyone had just learned to communicate effectively. The movie is dull, adapted from a poor-quality book, and it shouldn't have caused so much drama. It should have simply been released and faded away without much notice.
As for all the cynics who like to attack just cuz someone seems too nice or fake, and the nuts who think everything has a vendetta, I believe it was the immortal Sam Puckett who said, "Stop watching, you big a bunch of losers. You're wasting your lives. Get a job, kiss a girl, do something!!!"
Saying every woman is the same elevates them beyond criticism, and that’s a hard no.
Given the history of back problems, I feel like Baldoni was well within his rights to ask Lively her weight. Not as an issue of her being "fat" but more so that he could be prepared to safely do the scene.
"Which is to say definitively that all of you have no idea what's going on." The internet in a nutshell.
Can’t believe you said Don’t Worry Darling is the most recent example of big production drama when Anyone But You happened..
Drama that interferes with production and drama that is just personal are different. Clearly.
What happened with Any1 But You?
@@KnarfStein I agree, but Anyone But You DID interfere with production. Sydney’s fiance produced the movie and there was a lot of talk about what was really going on behind the scenes and how much he knew and agreed to.
What happened
Yeah that was super fake though
It’s unlikely that It Ends With Us will get an Oscar nomination. Not to mention that this movie would be difficult to sell towards voters.
Overall, It Ends With Us stories are getting bigger and crazier.
What is shocking to me, is that Blake seems to not understand that a movie with DV as core theme can not be promoted as feel good movie. It is sooo strange. They had the opportunity to start an important discussion and they made a soap opera out of it.
I was with you all the way until the media likes to pick on pretty rich white women part. I beg to differ
Yeah in retrospect maybe I didn’t word that the best, I meant that like, people have the most fun picking on them, it’s more likely to become an internet trend. but that kind of targeting is obviously not as serious as like other groups of people. My bad my bad
Sheri, right? Other than little kids, beautiful women are always give excuses. Amber Heard just woke a lot of ppl up.
@@valkyrie2307beautiful women are always getting excused? Do you not remember when rachel ziegler was attacked for months on end for being ,,kinda rude" in interviews? Or reneè rapp? Hailey baldwin? Britney spears? Literally any public female figure that was involved in some petty drama? I feel like you don't, because ,,the public needs to be harsher on women" is a crazy idea
Great video, Kayla. I'm not defending anyone's harmful actions, but it's amazing to me how everyone's gone at Lively's throat, rehashing the same meager "rudeness" clips in their own grab for likes and clicks. Your video shows insight and points out so many interesting dynamics at play here. Next time there's a pile up of creators all talking about the same subject, maybe I'll just skip the redundant fu**ery and just find out what Kayla says.
Damn, it seems like this movie's behind the scene drama is way more interesting than the movie itself 😂
Problematic stuff that she’s done put aside (basically just the wedding-plantation shit), I don’t feel like we know enough about Blake to act as if she’s Satan. I think Blake is selfish and insensitive, at worst. She’s not… I don’t know, worse than others who have gotten less flack for the same stuff.
Yeah to me it’s just a matter of pretty piss-poor media training. She just seems pretty tone-deaf and ignorant/insensitive in general, and with so many people historically admiring how “real” she and her husband are in the public eye, I wouldn’t be surprised if her team put faith in her winning smile and personality to push her through this campaign. It’s a lot more understandable when you try to consider that she may just be really excited about this new huge project of hers that she is hoping will rise her star in Hollywood, but she’s not seeing in the moment that the lighthearted tone she’s setting clashes really badly with the film’s subject matter. It’s the kind of unabashed attitude and aloofness that comes with someone who believes they have become untouchable
@@ten-ze1pq this is def a case of “someone who has never had a bad thing happen to them in their life is suddenly met with the raging public.” There’s hope for her yet. I think everyone needs to calm down.
Why would you "put aside" having a wedding on a plantation and romanticizing the antebellum South?
@@magnoliaskogen because that is really bad and idk how to defend anyone for that. It was 12 years ago. This isn’t me saying to get over it, this is more like let’s look at what she’s doing right now at the moment. Obviously, it was still a stupid and immoral thing to do.
@@ten-ze1pq I agree with many of your points. This was a combination of very poor media training, the sense of entitlement from past problematic behavior being tolerant and being ignorant in regards to a serious topic like DV. Furthermore, I think her team underestimated the decline celebrity worship amongst the public since the pandemic. People are becoming more intolerant of celebrity shenanigans and aren't afraid to voice their displeasure. If she had taken a similar route to Justin Baldoni's promotion of the movie coupled with her "bubbly" personality/unabashed attitude, then I think she would have been received more favorably.
and her reasoning for everything in her life
oh Im just a Virgo
Like Jada
Wait, did she really say that though? 😩😂
@@abbied she always does tho
@@mominajamal5400 I didn’t know…..
@@mominajamal5400 I don’t follow her that closely (so I didn’t know) 😕🤷🏻♀️
I really appreciate you presenting this information in as objective a way as you can. It's exhausting to see so many sources jumping on the gossip train
idk if this is controversial but Blake Lively is not a victim in this situation. not only does she have a history of problematic behavior (i'm looking at you, antebellum wedding) way worse than any on-set miscommunications from Baldoni, she also is framing this film as something it's not, and diminishing the importance of telling abuse stories with honesty and care.
It’s not controversial I think most people agree
Blake accidentally exposed taylor Swifts real personality. Their best friends and no way taylor isn't the same way. Their best friends because of their similarities in their personality, not their differences
Other youtuber comment about blake an ryan writing the scene during the writers strike. Dont know if true.
One thing not mentioned here is that there were two cuts of the movie made. One was a cut Blake wanted. It was more comedic. The other was a cut the Justin wanted, which was the more serious take. They showed both to focus groups and Justin’s won out. It’s the one that hit theaters.
Wrong. The Lively cut is the one truer to the book that is in theaters. The Baldoni cut gave some bullshit tragic backstory to his abuser character. It was not necessarily a more 'serious' version of the story, it was one that centered the male abuser more.
It’s interesting how people kind of decide at the same time to hate a new celebrity each month. Now it’s Blake, last month it was Katy Perry, before that it was Jlo. I wonder who’s up for September 😂
Any guesses?
i disagree with you when you said that white women are the most targeted people on the internet
I don’t think they’re the most targeted in the sense of like actual serious cyberbullying and mobbing, what I meant is that people love to dunk on them whether it’s justified or not. Maybe I could have worded it better
@@kaylasays JLo and Meghan Marke got to be the most targeted women as we speak and they are not white
@@nad0862I agree but Meghan is still a white woman just as much as she is black because she’s half white and half black
In the end you say that it would have been good to use this movie for awareness of DV and to help DV victims and survivors... So basically what ONLY Justin Baldoni has done until now??? Got it.
I just hope that the idolization of celebrities stops. They are privileged and out of touch and don’t deserve the obsession they get.
Baldoni hired the crisis pr firm after the journalist put the vid up and the backlash Blake was getting. it was after the pr attack on him making her uncomfortable on set etc. Leighton Meester is being vindicated lol
That's what I am saying! They tried to recreate Barbiehimer but ended up recreating Don't worry darling!