Star Trek: Every Ensign Ranked Worst To Best

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  • It's time to give Starfleet's lower deckers the attention that they deserve.
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  • @y_fam_goeglyd
    @y_fam_goeglyd ปีที่แล้ว +238

    Whenever I see Nog, I tear up. As a character, he was outstanding. As an actor, even more astounding and then taken from us far, _far_ too young. Okay, tears have spilled over, I'm out.

  • @OhhCrapGuy
    @OhhCrapGuy ปีที่แล้ว +154

    I'm surprised that it wasn't mentioned that Nog was so important to the history of Starfleet that 800 years later, his name is so well known that they named a starship after him, and did so in one of the most dire periods in Federation history.
    The Federation was hanging on by a thread in 3189, and the names they chose for ships then were meant to invoke hope in the darkest of times.
    Excalibur, a weapon gifted by the Fae that grants its wielder great power with a scabbard that grants immortality.
    Voyager, the ship that travelled across the galaxy alone to return home.
    Armstrong, the first human to leave Earth and step foot on another celestial body.
    Nobel, a man who donated their fortune from war to award peace and scientific discovery.
    And Nog.

    • @hayesie27
      @hayesie27 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was just about to write the same thing. Eisenberg class USS NOG.

    • @mookiebrown79
      @mookiebrown79 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm not crying. *You're* crying 🥲

  • @theodorevogiatzis874
    @theodorevogiatzis874 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    RIP Aron Eisenberg. His portrayal of nog was truly phenomenal.

  • @gregotoole7020
    @gregotoole7020 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    Ensign Sito Jaxa having had the greatest redemption arc in TNG doesn't even get a mention after Picard sends her on a suicide mission into Cardassian space.

    • @CathrineMacNiel
      @CathrineMacNiel ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Sito Jaxa was such a great character.

    • @InAMinMaths
      @InAMinMaths ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes Nog and her probably equal no 1 (no pun intended)

    • @charlesscott1682
      @charlesscott1682 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      And she volunteered for it. I agree she should be at the top with the great Nog.

    • @sureshmukhi2316
      @sureshmukhi2316 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Oh yes. That surely is an oversight. She literally gave her life for Starfleet.

    • @andrebrynkus2055
      @andrebrynkus2055 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They wanted to bring her back somehow but it never happened. TNG may have been episodic but it had some great threads that ran through the show.

  • @ThomasMHead
    @ThomasMHead ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I've made that same point about Chekov. Movie Chekov: perfectly fine officer. TV Chekov: should not be left without adult supervision at all times. Which is a good representation of a very eager, very young crew member, who learns and matures.

    • @maxshenkwrites
      @maxshenkwrites ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Which may be proof that in creating and writing the character, the producers of the show did exactly what they intended: bring in a character to which younger viewers would relate.

    • @GabePuratekuta
      @GabePuratekuta ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well, he did prevent Khan from using the toilet.

    • @donpietruk1517
      @donpietruk1517 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nah man. He was trusted to man Spock's science scanners when Spock wasn't on the bridge in TOS. He was the boy genius before Wesley. Plus how can you not live the running Russia gags?

    • @GabePuratekuta
      @GabePuratekuta ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@donpietruk1517 What gags? Everything was really invented somewhere in Ruissia.

  • @scottclakes
    @scottclakes ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Aaron expressed concerns and insecurities of his contributions and acting. My hope is that he learned before his death just how much he was adored and what an amazing job he did bringing Nog to life.

  • @eddiehancockii
    @eddiehancockii ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Chekov: i was never that young.
    Kirk: No. You were younger.

    • @MishraArtificer
      @MishraArtificer ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I've always loved that little quiet moment between Kirk and Chekov...

    • @eddiehancockii
      @eddiehancockii ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@MishraArtificer me too. It is just perfect for fans of the original series. I was born shortly after it ended its initial tv run. But i still remember being a small boy and watching star trek.... dreaming of traveling to the stars. Then the movies came out. And time did what it does. That line kinda says what many of us felt. We were all "younger".... but it sure doesn't feel that way sometimes lol

  • @scottjarnagin348
    @scottjarnagin348 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    In fact, Nog was such a great officer, he had a starship named after him. Not even Kirk or Picard can say that.

    • @Cdr2002
      @Cdr2002 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Nog is awesome!
      Just to be a nerd though I’ll point out that there’s a USS Kirk in Star Trek Online that Tom and Be’lanna’s daughter served on 🤓
      Not canon but I think it’s fun

  • @rafaelhashimoto1
    @rafaelhashimoto1 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Sito Jaxa deserved an honorable mention at least.

  • @RadSalacan
    @RadSalacan ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I work at a milk bottling plant and in the holiday season we bottle egg nog. Everyone refers to it as "nog" and it makes me smile to be reminded so often of such an awesome character. It just sucks that no one else there is in Trek so they have no idea what I'm talking about it I ever try to explain it.

  • @ScaryBaldMan
    @ScaryBaldMan ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Glad to see Nog getting the love. He was awesome.

  • @thepropagandastudiosbrigs0927
    @thepropagandastudiosbrigs0927 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I remember reading a story (non official canon sadly) that while at the academy, Nog took the Kobayishi Maru test three times. First time, he did as well as anyone else which was considered impressive. Second time was not so hot... considering the test is brutal enough that even average is still pretty harsh the second test was a disaster. Told not to do it again but he did. On the third attempt he kinda fried the simulator .. He started to use Ferengi tactics, logic and negotiation practices that created such a complex environment that the simulator overloaded itself. Essentially he haggled the system to death. The simulator and Star Fleet by extension had never thought that far outside the box and the system was designed with this very limited viewpoint. When complex negotiations even for Ferengi were introduced it was too much information.
    Star Fleet has yet to acknowledge this feat, but essentially Nog beat the no win scenario. Kirk worked under the pretense that the simulator equipment itself and the program were also conditions of the test so therefore altering them was fine. He cheated and got away with it. Nog just Ferengied the shit out of it. Who did it better?

    • @martyncurrill2766
      @martyncurrill2766 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nog did, easily. Therefore Nog is better than Kirk.
      I don't make the rules.

    • @tetravega567
      @tetravega567 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So Nog pulled a Kirk, and talked a computer to death?
      How did Starfleet NOT account for that? He did it enough...

    • @thepropagandastudiosbrigs0927
      @thepropagandastudiosbrigs0927 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tetravega567 kirk reprogrammed the simulator. Nog used it unaltered and ferengi'd it to death. big difference

    • @impacking
      @impacking ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nog

    • @tetravega567
      @tetravega567 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thepropagandastudiosbrigs0927 I didn't say the simulator was one of the computers Kirk talked to death...

  • @jacara1981
    @jacara1981 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Even 500 years later Nog is still recognized as a Officer, he has his own ship line named for him (USS Nog (NCC-325070)).

  • @AzraelThanatos
    @AzraelThanatos ปีที่แล้ว +15

    With Harry, I wonder if he wasn't intended to not be the original Operations Officer, but the first on the list after everything in Caretaker and had been on bridge duty before that.
    For Nog, it's really unfortunate that we're also not going to see Captain Nog of the Chimera (NCC-97400) showing up in live action

  • @RememberTheChase
    @RememberTheChase ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Tilly!!!! I love her sooooo much, she is amazing. Oh Nog, love him too.

  • @AngelEmfrbl
    @AngelEmfrbl ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Going to agree with Nog.
    He even had a ship named after him in season 3 of Discovery, a nod to how he was remembered.
    He basically proved that Ferengi were more then schemers, though Quark had the brains, his brothe rhad the heart and that is seen in Nog. No other characters rose above expectations more then he did. Sure, some of the other characters did more, but less was just expected of him.

  • @gingerg85
    @gingerg85 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I always figured that Wesley was in disguise at Troi and Riker's wedding, like that he had slipped out of the other planes of existence for the occasion and materialised as a version of himself to avoid awkward questions

    • @ccibinel
      @ccibinel ปีที่แล้ว +3

      wow nice retcon ;)

    • @gingerg85
      @gingerg85 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ccibinel it's the joy of head cannon!

    • @GabePuratekuta
      @GabePuratekuta ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@gingerg85 Christian Whitehead, is that you?

  • @sinswhisper9588
    @sinswhisper9588 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Janeway could have promoted him ... the captain does have the power to issue a field-commission promotion

    • @karawana_1731
      @karawana_1731 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Did promote Tuvok and Tom Paris

    • @GabePuratekuta
      @GabePuratekuta ปีที่แล้ว

      @@karawana_1731 And demote Tom.

  • @georgewodicka4839
    @georgewodicka4839 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The most obscure topics become the most fascinating videos. What a channel!

  • @xedalpha1
    @xedalpha1 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I like Harry gets some love. He was easily full lieutenant material by Endgame. Sure he was always a bit immature but he was really good at his job.

    • @oddish4352
      @oddish4352 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Harry should have had a hollow pip on his collar by "Scorpion" and a solid one by the time Tom got his hollow one back.

  • @sueKay
    @sueKay ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Why does Peanut Hamper not get a dishonourable mention?

    • @spiderboy43
      @spiderboy43 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Traitorous murderous criminal AI don't deserve such mentions. Ensign Ro at least had a noble reason for joining the Maquis.

    • @MrAndyBearJr
      @MrAndyBearJr ปีที่แล้ว

      @@spiderboy43The list does go from worst to best, so PH definitely could be shoehorned in among the most detestable.

    • @fmitchell238a
      @fmitchell238a ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe because she was an ensign for two minutes before she deserted? That doesn't deserve a mention, dishonorable or otherwise.

  • @grahamcann1761
    @grahamcann1761 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Either as a video or written list I'd like to see others lists of Ensigns, and maybe some part 2's. (With Ezri Dax, Tom Paris, and others.)
    As always thank you so very much for the video.

  • @ratspike8017
    @ratspike8017 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Chekov is great - and he went on to become a spooky and sinister member of psycorps.
    Hang on, I'm getting confused again...

  • @ThePointlessDeath
    @ThePointlessDeath ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If not for Nog I'd say Harry.
    Mainly cos he was so composed he didn't walk into Janeways ready room, put a phaser to her head and shout,
    'At least make me Lieutenant Juniour Grade or no more coffee, and you know I can rig the replicators!'

    • @Beohun
      @Beohun ปีที่แล้ว +1

      :Morgan Freeman voice: It was at this point, Ensign Kim knew he fucked up.

  • @bubzthetroll
    @bubzthetroll ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’m fairly certain that Sonya Gomez was the worst Ensign. Ro Laren never spilled coffee on Picard.

    • @mikepanick9362
      @mikepanick9362 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sonya was the hottest though!🔥⚡️✨🌟🔥❤

  • @tonosama516
    @tonosama516 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ensign Gates! She served 4+ years aboard USS Enterprise D, including duty on the bridge, and was never promoted. She was never shown to make mistakes or act inappropriately. Clearly, Starfleet never cared to address why Riker and Picard seemed biased and never promoted her.
    She should have consulted with JAG officer Louvois to file a grievance! I always wondered what Ensign Gates’ first name was. 😂 🖖

    • @imkluu
      @imkluu ปีที่แล้ว

      Gates was in a lot of episodes and manned the Con many times as well as appeared in off duty things. She was a semi regular from the 3rd to 7th season on the Next Generation.

  • @AshuraH
    @AshuraH ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What I think is funny about the topic of how bad Mariner is is that even *she* realizes that she's a cruddy Starfleet officer in the end, but she realizes how special Starfleet is and wants to do better. And I hope she does!

    • @TheMhalpern
      @TheMhalpern ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mariner is a Supply Sargent and doesn't realize it, once they start employing her as one, for the things not readily available from replicators, she'll go far

    • @MishraArtificer
      @MishraArtificer ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheMhalpern Beckett Mariner IS the E4 Mafia.

  • @rayfinkle94
    @rayfinkle94 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I like to think wesley was still a traveller in Nemesis but he wanted to be at the wedding and for some reason he needed to ware a uniform and pretend to be in star fleet or he would be ejected from the wedding. That way it can stay canon

    • @MishraArtificer
      @MishraArtificer ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The Novelverse has the best explanation: word got to Wesley that they were getting married, but he assumed they were having a Betazoid ceremony...and blinked into real space naked.
      They had to replicate a dress uniform for him on short notice.

    • @rayfinkle94
      @rayfinkle94 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MishraArtificer cool, I didn't know that, I don't read the books there are too many of them.

    • @reviewheroes2376
      @reviewheroes2376 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MishraArtificer Spot on. He showed up naked and they gave him a uniform.

    • @SevCaswell
      @SevCaswell ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The other possible explanation is that he didn't want to draw attention to his leaving Starfleet, and to prevent questions he chose the uniform and rank that he would have had had he stayed in Starfleet so the peripheral friends and relatives, the sort of family that you only see at weddings, or funerals, wouldn't ask any awkward questions.

  • @Evravon
    @Evravon ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Harry Kim will always be #1 in my mind. Sure, Nog did so much in so little time, but Harry did all that stuff while being stranded on the other side of the galaxy, with only ONE ship, and no backup for 70,000 light years. He was not only dedicated, he was an absolute genius and master of his field.

  • @williamschultz8470
    @williamschultz8470 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your list was spot on. Great job

  • @martyncurrill2766
    @martyncurrill2766 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nog as number one Ensign is unequivocally the right choice. Loved this list.

  • @AloofBaloo
    @AloofBaloo ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Crap, I wasn't expecting this list to hit me with the feels at the end.

  • @aegisofhonor
    @aegisofhonor ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nog was awesome, easily the single best character development throughout a Star Trek series and among my favorite "side" characters in any Star Trek series.

  • @kevindondrea144
    @kevindondrea144 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe Wesley questioned his time away, got homesick or... Maybe when he came back it was because of what he mentioned in Picard about being careful of what he says and almost causing the catastrophe. Then he "Got back on the horse" and went back to being a traveler.

  • @TheLorissy
    @TheLorissy ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Missing Ensign Sito Jaxa here, the OG Lower Decks ensign.

  • @imkluu
    @imkluu ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What About Christine Chapel? I believe she was an Ensign in the new "Star Trek: Strange New Worlds" series.
    Also Ezri Daz was an Ensign.
    Other remarkable Ensigns: Samantha Wildman, Vorik, Sito Jaxa, Roger Lemli, and Gates.

    • @honzasenbauer612
      @honzasenbauer612 ปีที่แล้ว

      Christine Chapel is not an Ensign, but a Nursem, but she is awesome. a little chaotic, but also properly capable of doing the job. And she has a great chemistry with all of the cast. I love her interactions with the Doctor

  • @AustynSN
    @AustynSN ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As far as Wesley goes, there are two possibilities I see. Either....
    His rank in Nemesis was decanonized by Picard or...
    As a traveler, he can manipulate and has full travel range in all of time and space. At some point in his travels, he took a break to experience what his mortal life would have been like if he hadn't become a traveler. The Wesley we briefly saw in Nemesis is actually a version thousands of years older than the one we saw at the end of Picard S2. He simply deaged himself and locked away most of his own memories as a traveler to experience the mortal life he missed. He's set his mind/body to "wake up" and resume his position and responsibilities as a traveler about a nanosecond before his eventual "death".

  • @RyanRead
    @RyanRead ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pretty much agree on this list. Nicely done.

  • @twocvbloke
    @twocvbloke ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nog's story was certainly a powerful one, showing that the stereotyping of a race does not reflect what the individual can do, and can prove that "they're not all like that you know!!!"...

  • @silversonic1
    @silversonic1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel like Wesley's getting the short end of the stick, but can accept his placement. If Wesley hadn't been on board when the crew got brainwashed by what they thought was a video game, the future history of TNG would have played out far differently. But he was a cadet at the time, so it can't count.

  • @locatedcoder9483
    @locatedcoder9483 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    If the ending isn’t Ensign Kim, I’m gonna cry

    • @locatedcoder9483
      @locatedcoder9483 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I cried

    • @hairyjim2709
      @hairyjim2709 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not watched the video yet, came to the comments to advise I will if Kim doesn't come out as no1.

    • @donkyhotay4583
      @donkyhotay4583 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@locatedcoder9483 Sadly I have to agree with the list, as good of an ensign as Harry Kim was... Nog beats him out.

    • @22espec
      @22espec ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sorry but Nog won fair and square. The guy even got a starship named after him 800 years after his death.

  • @LordAnubisGaming
    @LordAnubisGaming ปีที่แล้ว

    Nog eventually takes control of the U.S.S. Chimera, a 25th Century Destroyer class that helps out in both the Delta and Alpha Quadrants. He helps out your Star Trek Online character countless times against the Iconians and helps find the remnants of the Krenim Empire.

  • @grahamcann1761
    @grahamcann1761 ปีที่แล้ว

    Darn you TrekCulture! (Not really) In an earlier comment I mentioned I'd like to see other's lists, and some addition lists (Part 2...). And that sent me down a rabbit hole, about what other Ensigns were seen in Star Trek. So I, of course, made a spread sheet, and I was able to list over 300 Ensigns from Star Trek. Many were only named, or only seen as background characters. Of those I found 228 whose actors I could identify. (Thank you to IMDB, Memory Alfa, and some other sites.)
    And I made some pleasant surprises worthy of mention (I think): Demora Sulu, Samantha Wildman, Walking Bear, Miral Paris, Rivers, Lon Suder, and Rita Tannenbaum played by actress Ivy Borg (real name, maybe).
    As always thank you so very much for the video. (And the trip down the rabbit hole.)

  • @jpetersgoyanks
    @jpetersgoyanks ปีที่แล้ว

    I believe Wesley Crusher was still a traveler when he was attending the Riker’s wedding. He was just undercover and appeared in a Starfleet uniform to fit in or as part of a mission that was separate from the festivities.

  • @praiodansmagicbox4094
    @praiodansmagicbox4094 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When you showed Kim as second, I thought "who is left as first place" ... then came Nog and ... of course it's Nog! If I'm right, Nog is also the only Ensign on the list (Ro Laren wasn't ranked) that was not part of the main cast of their show, he was "only" supporting cast ... so: great for Nog .. and the great actor that brought him to us, I hope we will remember him for a long time!

  • @johnsieverssr8288
    @johnsieverssr8288 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your show.

  • @AdmiralJaneway74656
    @AdmiralJaneway74656 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would've put Harry in 1st and Nog in 2nd place, but Nog also really deserved the spot.

  • @frankm.2850
    @frankm.2850 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do we know how far up in the ranks Mariner got before getting busted back down to ensign? I don't think its ever mentioned, but I've not got the entirety of LD memorized.

    • @Beohun
      @Beohun ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It hasn't come up.
      The general scuttlebutt is that she was at least an Lt jg, if not a full Lt and probably a veteran is the Dominion War.

  • @byrlea7703
    @byrlea7703 ปีที่แล้ว

    RE: Chekov's review, the Enterprise was the Federation flagship in TNG, but not TOS. In TOS it's a cruiser, a smaller utility ship as opposed to the TNG Galaxy class.

  • @Extinguisher10
    @Extinguisher10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was wondering how the hell someone was going to be ahead of Harry........ And then I saw # 1.
    Great list

  • @VanWinger
    @VanWinger ปีที่แล้ว +1

    #1 Ensign Rivers, who through his experiences on NX-01 acquired the knowledge of the Berman era storytelling method and going on to produce the Trek we deserve and not the ones they force and unleash upon us.

    • @raymondcanessa7208
      @raymondcanessa7208 ปีที่แล้ว

      true so true The Orville is the Trek we want. The Orville season 4

  • @DocWolph
    @DocWolph ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When Nog finally passes on (no shade), sometime in the 26th century, his former belongings will go up for auction, by Ferengi Custom. The bids for his uniforms alone would be astronomical. I would be the one handmade by Raam, a grand Nagus. would be wildly greater than his official starfleet issue Academy uniform uniform.
    "Opening bid for One Nog's Starfleet academy uniform, handmade by his father the now deceased Grand Nagus Raam, complete with one then code-compliant communications badge, deactivated and data scrubbed per Starfleet security requirements, is set to two ingots of Gold Pressed Latinum."
    Part if Raam's legend is that he could do absolutely anything if he put his mind to it. So him making a points perfect Starfleet uniform for his son is just more value to the item.

  • @jens_hatje
    @jens_hatje ปีที่แล้ว

    Nog also had a Starship named after him. The Eisenberg class USS Nog. :)

  • @YooTubeSlave
    @YooTubeSlave ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for no spoilers. My brother cancelled his Paramount+ subscription, which means I lost my Paramount+ subscription.

  • @Bastion90
    @Bastion90 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Doing this ranking from Starfleet's perspective put an interesting twist on the list format. I would enjoy more lists like this that follow a similar style. I think my opinion is closer to Sean's that Marcus's. The only thing I would change is that I think Tendi and Hoshi should be higher than Boimler.

  • @Annishark
    @Annishark ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hope when harry kim gets a cameo in lower decks or any other show he should still be an Ensign

  • @oncinaust5178
    @oncinaust5178 ปีที่แล้ว

    Granted games aren’t cannon, but in Star Trek Online Nog made captain of the Chimera. (a ship so special you cannot fly the ship yourself unless you have a lifetime membership) This is lended credence in cannon because there is a ship in the 32 century named the Nog seen in later seasons of Discovery. Nog was one of the few examples of how you can turn your life around and showed the hope for the future.

  • @Goodiesfanful
    @Goodiesfanful ปีที่แล้ว

    Nog was an ensign who made it to captain and got a ship named after him. As far as I know, none of the other ensigns on the list did as well.

    • @GabePuratekuta
      @GabePuratekuta ปีที่แล้ว

      The closest was Harry Kim, who made it to captain but no ship to bear his name.

  • @rpgspree
    @rpgspree ปีที่แล้ว

    OK... I'll accept your argument for putting that one high up (even top). Considering the overall trajectory from beginning to end, that's probably the hardest climb of them all. Intelligence, savvy, and tenacity are hallmarks of great Fleet officers.

  • @gi0nbecell
    @gi0nbecell ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel you missed one person deserving at least an honorable mention: Tom Paris. Granted, he was first dishonorably discharged, then brought back by Cpt. Janeway for her mission to capture the Maquis and ended up as Lt. J.G. aboard the USS Voyager. But: after being demoted from Lieutenant J.G., he is still the helmsman of the Voyager, still an important member of Janeway's crew and manages to be repromoted to Lieutenant within a year. So, while I would have been puzzled if he appeared in this list, an honorable mention would have been in order for him, I think.

  • @TobysKpopTop50
    @TobysKpopTop50 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    was upset Seska did not get an honorable mention as well, but understand why

  • @davidpumpkinsjr.5108
    @davidpumpkinsjr.5108 ปีที่แล้ว

    I imagine that after Voyager's return to Earth, Harry Kim was probably promoted straight to full lieutenant, skipping the junior grade entirely.

  • @Ooilei
    @Ooilei ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thank you for legitimizing Lower Decks! Unfortunately because it's an animated series, sometimes people don't consider it canon and not as "real" as the live-action versions of Star Trek, so it's nice to see characters in the series legitimized as a real part of Star Trek lore and the Star Trek universe

    • @francescozenocchini4428
      @francescozenocchini4428 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lower Decks Is FANTASTIC !!!
      and i am a bit disappointed by the people Who hate LD for his "parodistic" vein when alike Discovery Is using the classic Star Trek formula.
      Also with Lower Decks Strange New Worlds crossover we can finally Say that LD Is a officially part of the Star Trek canon.

    • @topogigio7031
      @topogigio7031 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lower Decks is like the inverse of Discovery

    • @donpietruk1517
      @donpietruk1517 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry I cannot take either Lower Decks or Discovery seriously. Lower Decks is at least good for a laugh. Discovery is dreck. Tilly was the worst. HOW did she get promoted to XO? That move alone stopped me from watching the show. It's almost as bad as JJ Trek where Kirk goes from ensign to XO to captain on his first effin mission.

  • @jeffersonmetzen9866
    @jeffersonmetzen9866 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly I would have liked it for an epilogue of Voyager that we get Harry Kim essentially promoted twice due to his outstanding performance as an ensign and due to the fact he was essentially owed that promotion and the only reason he didn't was due to Voyagers circumstances. He had so much experience at the end of Voyager I feel he would of made a decent Lieutenant. I also don't think he'd have much competition as a LTJG to warrant him staying there long enough for him to gain any new lessons he hadn't already learned as an ensign.

  • @davidthomas4489
    @davidthomas4489 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good list. Definitely Nog should be at the top. Good call.

  • @RD-Man
    @RD-Man ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What?? No Ensign Sito?

  • @3Rayfire
    @3Rayfire ปีที่แล้ว

    Nog. I too expected Jaxa Sito, but Nog in the number one spot. Yeah, that I can get behind. Now to watch the scene with him and Sisko in the office.

  • @RJ.Farr8
    @RJ.Farr8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks! 👋

  • @joshuafrahm8778
    @joshuafrahm8778 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was going to be mad about Harry Kim not being 1, but I'd forgotten about Nog, that's a good #1.

  • @binyominsilverman1592
    @binyominsilverman1592 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You forgot Tom Paris (demoted to ensign in 30 Days), Ensign Nyota Uhura (SNW)...

    • @arbjbornk
      @arbjbornk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Uhura is a cadet, not an ensign, in SNW.

    • @virginiaconnor8350
      @virginiaconnor8350 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@arbjbornk Didn't she get promoted in "SNW"?

    • @arbjbornk
      @arbjbornk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@virginiaconnor8350 Not yet. In the last episode we saw Lt. Uhura in an alternate future.
      The next time we see Uhura, she will likely be Ensign Uhura, after she received her Starfleet commission.

  • @ProPhile
    @ProPhile ปีที่แล้ว

    Am I imagining things or did Sean say “Star fleet lower decks” at 1:44? 🤔🤯

  • @peterc.810
    @peterc.810 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    NOG!!! Aron would have been so proud!

  • @TisiGrey
    @TisiGrey ปีที่แล้ว

    Harry deserved that tribute :)

  • @JDEhlert
    @JDEhlert ปีที่แล้ว

    Nog will always be forever. And given he has a ship named after him, he went on to become one of the top officers in Starfleet that sadly we will never see as Aaron Eisenberg passed on. But we know he was a damn fine officer.

  • @jonarse
    @jonarse ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wasn't Ro a Lieutenant when she left Starfleet for the Maquis?

    • @dan1216
      @dan1216 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, indeed.

  • @Animalover205
    @Animalover205 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not was an amazing character who went on to have an amazing career in Starfleet, even serving pivotal roles during the war with the Iconians in 2409 in STO.

  • @HyruleBalverine
    @HyruleBalverine ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @2:36 I hate to be "that guy" but you can't blame Westley for that particular calamity. Yes, he fell through "the wrong flower bed" but it literally could have been anybody because Tasha Yar (the Security Chief) didn't bother to get ANY details on the planet's criminal justice system (i.e. the fact that any random thing could be a zone for the planet's security forces at any random time and all crimes were punishable by death, even jay-walking).

  • @vincentwhitehead
    @vincentwhitehead ปีที่แล้ว

    Good picks all across the board , especially with nog.. rest in peace, aron eisenberg ;-;

  • @DragoonMS
    @DragoonMS ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. All the Lower Decks love WOULD come along as I was playing the mobile game. 😏😏😏

  • @paulgavin841
    @paulgavin841 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have no problem with your racking but not been number one could also be because the actor was such a good actor and a good tribute to the actor we lost

  • @TheMhalpern
    @TheMhalpern ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mariner embodies the "Spirit, but not the letter" of Star Fleet, honestly though while she might not be captain material, she should be in logistics, every military organization needs a cadre of logistics personelle who knows how to get what they need where its needed even if it means trampling over official channels.

    • @tetravega567
      @tetravega567 ปีที่แล้ว

      Section 31?

    • @TheMhalpern
      @TheMhalpern ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tetravega567 NO

    • @fmitchell238a
      @fmitchell238a ปีที่แล้ว

      Mariner's talents reach far beyond logistics ... but from the perspective of Starfleet brass she's an irritant: insubordinate, disrespectful, bad for morale, and the cause of many Cerritos missions going awry (albeit also the one who saves everyone's butts just as often). Granted, this is the same brass that thought an A.I. ship armed to the teeth was a good idea ...

  • @tbdf2p597
    @tbdf2p597 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't deny Nog... but I think Tendi will rank much higher after a few more seasons. No one is more StarFleet than Tendi... but she can also PIRATE?! Oh she's the real deal.

  • @clairemercer3099
    @clairemercer3099 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Even being away from home Janeway could've promoted Kim anytime. After all Picard promoted Crusher and he hadn't even been to the academy.

  • @lifesacardgame6454
    @lifesacardgame6454 ปีที่แล้ว

    Two minutes in and you’ve trashed my two favourite ensigns! (good job you clarified your criteria)

  • @jessesmith-garcia5313
    @jessesmith-garcia5313 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ensign Ro Laren was absolutely Badass, What the Bleep!

  • @atzuras
    @atzuras ปีที่แล้ว

    Sulu went from helmsman -pilot lieutenant to Captain of the Excelsior in between 2 movies.
    Also Laforge went from 2nd lieutenant to Chief Engineer - Lt. commander in a TV season.

    • @barbarossarotbart
      @barbarossarotbart ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry, but Sulu a lieutenant commander in TMP and a full commander in TWoK.

    • @get2dachoppa249
      @get2dachoppa249 ปีที่แล้ว

      There aren’t any 2nd lieutenants in starfleet, it’s not a rank title that the naval services use in fiction and in real life.

    • @atzuras
      @atzuras ปีที่แล้ว

      Laforge had 1 silver + 1 black button at the time of TNG 1. Which was more than ensign (1 silver) but less than Lt. ( 2 silver), so it call it 2nd lt. at least in practice if not in theory.
      The same with Sulu, the official lore says it was Lt. Cmd at some point, but he was mainly acting at the Helm and Navigation, never acting as Chief Operations or Senior Staff tor example.
      Let's face it, Star Trek was not planned to be the most in-universe logical and cohesive as it seems. It had to work by being easy to get onboard with it, by putting people in known places and predictible roles, not to reflect real-life progression of a starfleet officer.
      LaForge was moved to engineering because the first choice for Chief Engineering was a failure from TV point of view, not for in-universe reasons, and Laforge was a beloved character doing almost nothing at the bridge.
      ST was very keen creating in-universe reasons and a consistent lore, but that official lore is not always what was apparent at the time of release of the movies and TV shows.
      In the same way, Picard would have been an Admiral and Ricker a Captain much before the end of the TNG movies but Paramount was more powerful than the fleet command.

    • @get2dachoppa249
      @get2dachoppa249 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@atzuras The rank in-between ensign and lieutenant is lieutenant junior grade, and thats what La Forge was during the first season. There is no 2nd lieutenant in the naval services, ie navy, coast guard, or starfleet. 2nd lieutenants are army, marines, and air force. Roddenberry served in the air force during WW2, so he knew this.

  • @CarolineIronwill
    @CarolineIronwill ปีที่แล้ว

    I would have liked to have seen Sito Jaxa as #3. Though she was only in one episode (ST:TNG Lower Decks) she displayed a great amount of bravery, sacrificing herself for Star Fleet. I also would have liked to have seen Sam Lavalle on the low end of the list. He was just tacky.

  • @ashes2ashesuk
    @ashes2ashesuk ปีที่แล้ว

    I know Ezri Dax got promoted, but doesn’t she get a mention? Also, Tom Paris could conceivably appear on this list of “Every” ensign as he spent more than a season as an ensign.

  • @Samantha_was_here_first
    @Samantha_was_here_first ปีที่แล้ว

    Not sure about Harry Kim's position on this list. Granted he is highly trained and respected - with many achievements. But if the list is from Starfleets pov, Kim should be ranked closer to the bottom. Others who ranked lower were promoted and got commendations for their work, while Harry didn't even get a recognised when Voyager re-established contact with Earth. (Wasn't Ezri Dax a ensign when we first met her or did the symbiont get her a promotion?)

  • @get2dachoppa249
    @get2dachoppa249 ปีที่แล้ว

    The writers did Kims character arc dirty. I can tell you from my actual military experience, there’s not a whole lot of difference between an ensign after a year of service and a jg lieutenant. There was no reason that Janeway could not have promoted him given his job didn’t change. The actual military promotes ensigns after 18 months -2 years of service. Flight training for fixed wing pilots can take almost two years and they always finish as a jg lt.

  • @kineuhansen8629
    @kineuhansen8629 ปีที่แล้ว

    man i would love to see nog back perhaps he is a captain also would love to see kim back

  • @ClarinoI
    @ClarinoI ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm surprised you didn't mention that Nog also beat the Kobayashi Maru.

  • @grumpyoldnord
    @grumpyoldnord ปีที่แล้ว

    NGL, the Nog part made me tear up.

  • @jonathanmoore3130
    @jonathanmoore3130 ปีที่แล้ว

    😂 those photos of Seán

  • @Skrubb_Lord
    @Skrubb_Lord ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When it comes to Harry Kim I don't understand why he wasn't field promoted at least to Lt/Jr grade.

    • @SamBryans128
      @SamBryans128 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because one of the producers hated Garrett Wang.

  • @ChiefCharly
    @ChiefCharly ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There are several downs in this episode. But Nog No. 1 gets a latinum up. You know the rule. Nog gets latinum up.

  • @oddish4352
    @oddish4352 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ro: The classic problem with a deep cover operative... to be convincing, they have to have a reason for joining the organization. And sometimes, that reason motivates them to join it for real.
    Wes: My theory is that deleted scenes aren't canon. So, Wes never returned to Starfleet.
    Mayweather: He was the most competent person on the NX-01, and should have been a lieutenant by Season 3.
    Boimler: Yes! Thank you! I can see not having two Boimlers on one ship. But they should have found Brad a lieutenant JG's billet.
    Tilly: As a fellow neurodivergent, it makes me very happy to see her succeed!
    Harry: Harry's non-promotion was arguably the worst thing on Voyager, in part because it was specifically done to humiliate the actor, and in part because the Trek community has been willing participants in it for over two decades. From the contemptuous "poor dumb Harry Kim" to the patronizing "ah, Harry, our forever ensign". And please, don't use that "Voyager was stuck in the Delta Quadrant" excuse to defend this indefensible action, given that Janeway promoted both Tuvok and Paris under the same conditions.
    Nog: Why was DS9 such great Trek? Because it knew how to develop a character. And Nog was second only to Sisko himself in terms of just how much he evolved.

  • @Wesmin
    @Wesmin ปีที่แล้ว

    Great list couldn't agree more, especially with the top 2, and the dishonorable mention, as much as I want to see her return to trek.

  • @stevengalloway8052
    @stevengalloway8052 ปีที่แล้ว

    🤔 Is there a link for ALL Starfleet ranks, bottom to top? 😏

  • @Sk8rToon
    @Sk8rToon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still don’t get why Boimler get a demotion back in the Cerritos.