Beautiful machines. Sad to think that soon ECML passenger services will be a multiple-unit-only like the WCML :-( It just wont be the same without thundering HSTs and wooshing 91s.
After an entire decade Britain's economic crisis was finally over. The ECML was finally electrified 1984-1989. And this train was Britian's first electric high speed train.😊
Peter Charles not sure, I’m thinking during the GNER days, that’s certainly when the HSTs went to 9-car formations so I can only assume the 91/mk4s were around the same time.
Very interesting. I wonder what this footage was originally intended for; as 16mm film or U-Matic tape was typically used for TV and commercial work at this point unless this is outtakes from a feature film or high budget commercial.
Back in an era when I first ventured out onto the railways myself the railways seemed so much better when the trains had stripes, unfortunately I was restricted to 317s and numerous other emu’s and still have never been on a 225 to this day.
Great film. However these sets are pull and push sets. The front car is a dummy set when pushed forward which tend to be the London Route. Back in 2001 I lived In York and My apartment viewed York Station and I sat and had my morning Coffee before walking to work and watched the 6.00 train leave that morning that eventually collided with the Land Rover on the tracks on that fateful day . Being a train enthusiast I always thought how the set would survive any impact being pushed without the full weight of the engine at the front. I have always wondered this if the train was coming the opposite way would the engine pushed the Land rover out of the way and not derailed ? Over the years I have never had an answer given too this. In all the news over those days after the Crash this was never mentioned. Get ten small wooden blocks and push them in a line along the floor at speed and you can see as being pushed the front block is unsteady.. This is my theory here.
this has been a repeated issue with push-pull trains that has come up every time a train in push mode derails after hitting something, but given the also very light weight of many MUs this argument is pretty much obsolete
Fantastic train.
Beautiful machines. Sad to think that soon ECML passenger services will be a multiple-unit-only like the WCML :-(
It just wont be the same without thundering HSTs and wooshing 91s.
Great vid my fav train of all time, in the best livery ever thanks for posting
I love it! It's just like a 1960s British Transport Film!
After an entire decade Britain's economic crisis was finally over. The ECML was finally electrified 1984-1989. And this train was Britian's first electric high speed train.😊
Nice footage. I didn't know that they originally ran in 7/8 coach formations, rather than the 9 coach that they run in today.
When did the formations become the 9 coach we see today?
Peter Charles not sure, I’m thinking during the GNER days, that’s certainly when the HSTs went to 9-car formations so I can only assume the 91/mk4s were around the same time.
Nice video. Livery suited those.
Very interesting. I wonder what this footage was originally intended for; as 16mm film or U-Matic tape was typically used for TV and commercial work at this point unless this is outtakes from a feature film or high budget commercial.
Back in an era when I first ventured out onto the railways myself the railways seemed so much better when the trains had stripes, unfortunately I was restricted to 317s and numerous other emu’s and still have never been on a 225 to this day.
Great film. However these sets are pull and push sets. The front car is a dummy set when pushed forward which tend to be the London Route. Back in 2001 I lived In York and My apartment viewed York Station and I sat and had my morning Coffee before walking to work and watched the 6.00 train leave that morning that eventually collided with the
Land Rover on the tracks on that fateful day . Being a train enthusiast I always thought how the set would survive any impact being pushed without the full weight of the engine at the front. I have always wondered this if the train was coming the opposite way would the engine pushed the Land rover out of the way and not derailed ? Over the years I have never had an answer given too this. In all the news over those days after the Crash this was never mentioned. Get ten small wooden blocks and push them in a line along the floor at speed and you can see as being pushed the front block is unsteady.. This is my theory here.
DVT weight 43.7 tonne; Class 91 loco weight 81.5 tonne
this has been a repeated issue with push-pull trains that has come up every time a train in push mode derails after hitting something, but given the also very light weight of many MUs this argument is pretty much obsolete
You have a valid point and it is of a high possibility that fateful train may not of derailed had the locomotive been leading the train
The APT without the Tilt mechanism and Jacob's Bogies 😀
Or hydrokinetic brakes.