Jurors can send a person to prison, sometimes even sentence them to death-so they damn sure can, and should, be questioned if there’s any hint of misconduct.
I recently had my first jury selection. Spent all day at the courthouse and right before lunch they started asking us voi dire questions. There were a couple very benign questions that I didn't think could exclude anyone or include anyone. And then they asked if there was anybody who like to follow certain crimes or cases on the internet. I had to raise my hand. There was a little chuckle. And then when we got back from lunch I was dismissed along with 24 other people. I don't know if that's why I wasn't selected or not, but I think probably yes.
I start Grand Jury duty next week. It should be interesting. Court TV is on in my house all day long plus I follow the lawyers on TH-cam for commentary.
I like to watch interrogations, some trials, this channel, plus follow some developing stories/pending trials, etc. I thought to myself the other day if my interest in real crime could get me dismissed from a jury.
Juror 15 was IN court for this hearing. She made a motion pro se prior to the hearing starting with the judge to have her court records sealed. It was denied because she didn’t site other cases for why this should be done. Defense asked for her to leave for the actual hearing, judge said she could stay, and she did.
Crazy that THIS grants a juror interview, yet Bev REFUSES to interview not out of juror misconduct, but to just get them to CLARIFY their verdict. Trash.
The MA Supreme Court just agreed to hear the issue of the appeal of Bevs judgement to not allow a juror interview, thankfully. I think arguments are scheduled for mid-late October. Hopefully, our Supreme Court has more sense than Judge Bev.
Exactly what I was thinking!!! I PRAY the SJC gets it right as they agreed to hear it… then hopefully they put something in place to where the judge MUST ask the jurors, on the record, that they are hung on each indictment…. Even if there is 1. Poll the jury every-time even if it’s 1 indictment. But if it’s 1 indictment, ask each, yes or no, if they are each hung on “Indictment 1”. Then they can say “Yes” that they are hung. Then move on to indictment #2 etc. I’m no lawyer, I’m just trying to think that this never happens to anyone in MA because “that’s how it’s done in Massachusetts”. Something obviously needs to be changed, and I can only wonder if this case isn’t the first where this has happened but the first we are hearing about it because it is a high profile case. Which just makes this all the more scarier to be honest.
We need to make it a standard going forward that when jurors are selected for jury duty, they must attend a day in court prior to trial starting, where they do some type of educational course on the basics of the legal system. The concepts of innocent until proven guilty, readonable doubt, burdens, etc should all be thoroughly taught and understood before someone is allowed to sit on a jury
This juror was not only a DV victim; she was also charged with being a DV perpetrator herself & her son grew up to be charged in his teens with SA. I want to just throttle this prosecutor.
Sometimes I listen to These arguments and I get the feeling that the State is more interested in “winning” rather than ensuring Justice. I was disgusted by these prosecutors at the time because I disagree with their “proof “ that Ashlie was not abused. IDK if she was or not, but I think they invalidate many victims who don’t behave a certain way. Adam Lally and Cari Morrisey are other recent examples that I don’t think care about justice as much as just winning.
Like when she said they didn't want follow-ups to be a thing during the questioning... why? Isn't that what re-direct is? You ask questions, and you might get more questions as well as answers.
Jules, from the Maya trial, was in court today for this hearing. She said juror #15 was not only in the courtroom for this, but she also filed a motion for the judge to seal her background. The judge asked her "under what statutes?" She didn't present any and simply said it was embarrassing & humiliating. The judge also told her she has the opportunity to supplement or refile her motion. There was a notice of appearance filed on her behalf by a lawyer and co-council. Also, before the proceedings began AB lawyers asked the judge to escort juror #15 from the courtroom because she would be testifying on this matter. The judge declined saying the court is open to the public. Thought all that was very interesting! Don't feel right about her being able to stay in the courtroom, but it is her right and her lawyers would be able to watch these proceedings anyway.
That's weird, that the Judge let the juror stick around for the arguments. If she is gonna be testifying, she shouldn't be sitting in the room. It applies to every witness, so I don't get why it wouldn't apply to her.
@@justkim9827I wouldn't consider her a witness. She's been accused of something, she's more similar to a defendant, and defendants have the right to be present.
I was asked if I every had to testify in a DV case, I raised my hand and the judge called me up to talk privately about that case. Peter you need to teach classes on how to be on a jury.
Thank you Peter for keeping us updated on the juror issue post-trial in this case! 💗 I always value your opinions, insights, and expertise on these cases from a legal perspective.
I appreciate your perspective of bias Peter, I was amazed at comments on trial by DV victims saying things like….I was in a DV situation and I got out alive without killing my partner so she’s guilty! Extremely harsh statements from some DV victims.
I've been in a DV situation, got out without killing my partner, and felt horrible for her that she got put into the position (allegedly, we can't prove it without being in her head) that she felt the only way to keep her family safe was to do that. I really think it's horrible to victim blame in general, but especially if they've been in that position.
@@TheDianeBrewer Ashley wasn’t with him for very long. Even went on a cruise right after married. I still don’t know why a paternity test wasn’t done. However, if it weren’t for the “full” textbook of her claims, I’d believe her. She claimed decades of abuse in a short span of time. Speaking as a 45 year still licensed counselor and 35 year RN, retired.
What is up with these juries?? We need to educate these jurors more then we do. Every single case in the last months , has problems with the jury. Then need to fill out a questionnaire. Then the lawyers need to ask better question. Maybe we need to change the questionnaire. It you don't understand then you shouldn't be picked. We just had a jury ask What does like in prison means? Yet they are deciding if you go to prison for life or not.
Melanie little interviewed someone that watched the trial, and was there at this hearing. Juror 15 was in the courtroom and talked to the judge before the hearing, then sat in the courtroom after the juror’s motion was denied. (Juror wanted their records sealed).
WHEN are jurors going to start taking this seriously? They are playing a higher power with people’s lives. One jury had to ask what a sentence of life without parole meant. And these folks should be trusted with someone’s life? I think it is pretty scary.
Have you ever served on a jury? I have been on five, and every time, everyone took it very seriously. It is very stressful, and there is a lot of pressure. This will go nowhere. She was not the only juror that voted her guilty.
@@melissaray1466 I sure have. And just because the juries that you sat on were honest, doesn’t mean all of them are. Neither of us know which way this is going to go, until the juror interviews have been conducted.
Maybe the reason jurors don't take this seriously enough is because the entire system is such a joke today. How many persecutions have we witnessed in the last ten years. The entire system weaponized at the highest levels to either persecute or protect some while treating others the opposite. We have, going back to the OJ trial, watched pervasive corruption from the state in case after case after case. Juries reach a verdict knowing it means nothing, everything is appealed and seemingly there are always appealable issues that overturn verdicts anyway. We have lawyers being terrorized, judges not being removed when they should, trials that go on and on over the dumbest crap and so many laws without victims that we have become numb to the idea of lawful vs unlawful, the difference seems absolutely and completely arbitrary. And maybe we shouldn't treat jurors any differently than we treat a defendant or a witness, they are after all peers. I don't want my name known or my face shown as a defendant but I don't have that choice, doesn't matter if I'm innocent or not. I don't want to be there as a witness and be questioned and cross examined, but I don't have that choice. Juries don't want their names known but they will give a verdict taking life liberty and property, all while sitting in a public courtroom? Please. Let's stop pretending the jurors are special or need some great protection more than the rest of us. I served on a jury top. The thing that struck me most was the boss and prejudice of the judge throughout the trial and then later the deference and ignorance displayed by jurors tripping over themselves to please the court and come to an unlawful unjust verdict. People acted serious but to say they actually seriously thought would be far less true. People are people, the idiots who can't drive on the road can still send you away for life. I don't give juries any extra respect or deference because I have seen the wrongfully convicted people that juries put away. They usually are not maliciously prejudiced but from my experience, they are cowards and easily motivated by emotions. When even the judges don't follow the laws and rules, why would jurors take those rules seriously? Cops don't follow the laws. Prosecutors don't follow the laws The government agents and agencies don't follow the laws. It's all about power ,control and welding authority over others. We give juries a title, treat them like they are special, and then they act just like entitled people with the illusion of power. They act just like the examples they see throughout the system. And we wonder why they might do these things? I don't. I think it is actually obvious and simple to understand. Just thoughts
I missed the live. This Juor came in and asked her records be sealed (pro se) motion. It was denied and she was sitting in court during the hearing to inquire about this. I hope you understand how I put that.
In Michigan here when I filled out my jury questionnaire it asked have you ever been a witness for a criminal case and explain or have a criminal history how could someone get that confused
IF a juror , who is sworn under ath to follow the law and instructions, DID bring a cellphone into deliberations, revealed info from verdict deliberations finding, or lied on questionnaire….they should be held in contempt, AND jailed for at least 6 months. This duty is serious.
I can't help but feel for Doug's daughter, Eva. Thinking she felt she finally got closure for her dad being mvrdered, only to realize there's going to be a juror interview & possible retrial due to jury misconduct.
I’ve found that often DV victims do not support other DV victims as they think that all victims should behave the same way they did or that someone else is in a better position than them therefore it’s not as bad as what happened to them. It’s incredibly sad but true.
@@annebosworth7048 That’s the problem. They THINK they can spot a fake one. Lying about being a victim of DV is quite rare in reality, perpetrators get away with it very commonly as they are often very charming to everyone else and are clever about their abuse. Plus there is no stereotype of a victim, they could be anyone. You’ve just proven my point for me really, I know of many DV victims who were not believed by other DV victims.
@@GinaWelsh firstly she hasn't lived with him for 3 years... she lived separate to him.. she said he poisoned her that was a lie, she said he SA on baby a lie, he didn't DV on baby more lies... he wanted a divorce cause she had a boyfriend but she didn't want a divorce so tricked him into thinking they were getting back together and moving to another state, then asked him to help her pack then killed him while mom and baby was at park,, so when did the domestic violence happen...??
@@annebosworth7048 I don’t know a lot about this case specifically, I was speaking generally and in response to the statement about victims of DV generally being more supportive of other DV victims which I’ve found not to necessarily be the case.
I quite disliked the prosecutors in this trial, very dismissive and aggressively biased. She even tried to have the defense layer sanctioned by the judge.
I think it’s kind of crappy that an online troll talking nonsense just to get attention could result in the court actually taking action to interview jurors. I think this just makes trolls more likely to do this again since all they want is a response. They will be HYPE knowing they can cause chaos and have no repercussions.
It's the totality of the circumstances that make it suspicious, otherwise sure. If it's nothing then it's nothing. If it's something then it's something.
I'm with you about this troll!!😤 And of course Taylor has ZERO evidence, aside from a SCREENSHOT of a live chat, that this is "true". And he said in the last hearing that the comment was deleted from the chat by L&C because THEY WERE COVERING UP this juror misconduct ON PURPOSE!! The removal was a cover-up by Law & Crime!! They knew what they were doing! 🙄 smdh Ummm… noooo… it was deleted bc L&C KNEW HE WAS A TROLL trying to start sh!t & the mods were trying to prevent this troll from getting attention!! But Taylor is trying EVERYTHING to get this convicted murderer outta jail.😒. (I kinda want this troll to post during another verdict watch soon - as hes done this before - so we ALL can send screenshots to Taylor showing his "sister" magically got seated in another trial in another state & snuck a flip-phone into THAT deliberation, too!😂🙄😏)
Totally agree that Mrs. LYK is a huge asset! She brings the "real" - the non-atty perspective, but she also lives with/watches a lawyer & in my experience, a lot of legal stuff seeps in, as if my osmosis. Great combo with LYK input. 👏🏽👏🏽
They HAVE to hit harder on the child custody case. Juror 12 lost custody due to allegations of abuse, so that is very prejudicial to Ashley, who was trying to do that to Doug. Kids are a big motivator. The judge didnt even mention it.
Saw Melanie little earlier and juror 15 was in court with them today before this hearing and was asking for her criminal records to be sealed. Judge denied and she stayed for this hearing too
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I'm glad someone brought this up in chat, but it's worth re-iterating. There's no guarantee that a trauma survivor is going to be sympathetic to another survivor. There is no such thing as a perfect victim and this idea that a trauma survivor was not only angelic before trauma, but will continue to be angelic after trauma needs to die. Trauma is traumatic. Victims can come out the other side more empathetic, less empathetic, or as empathetic as they always were. There's no way to predict how someone will react to trauma. If a person comes out less empathetic, empathy has to be re-learned. The event is so big and so impactful that a person's worldview narrows to their own experience, and their internal experience becomes the yard stick with which they judge others. I've watched people go through that. It's not pretty. /Nothing/ about trauma is pretty. The opposite end of the stick (hyper-empathy) likewise has to be un-learned. It might sound like it's more positive, but hyper-empathy is just as debilitating. Both ends of the spectrum are examples of hyper-vigilance. "Something hurt me, but I know what it looks like and I only have enough space to react to things that look like it" or "Something hurt me, therefore everything is dangerous, everyone is in danger, and I'll only be safe if I see the signs in everything". I understand this prosecutor was making an argument, but her conduct and how she talks about trauma makes me absolutely livid.
Juror 15 asked the judge before this hearing to seal her records. She also set in during this while hearing. Judge said it was open and she could stay.
@@LawNerdAmberWhat is a fair trial? I put it to you there is no such thing. There is no fullproof way of getting a non biased jury. It's an illusion. Best alternative is a bench of three judges, but after viewing the antics of Judge Cannone, Gull and others seems some Judges are potential canonballs.
No. Jury of one's peers have been the best of any system of all around fairness towards justice. Of course there are bugaboos within the totality of the system--and we continue to try to catch and rectify those. But a bench judge(s) trial is alarmingly riddled with problems.
@@cherylsouza4926 In the UK jurors are not allowed to talk about cases. That seems the right approach. By over analysing jury deliberations it undermines the system. Jurys aren't perfect so you have to live with the shortcomings. In France they abolished juries for all but the most serious cases because of corruption. I think American jurors do a tremendous job but the courts demands and complexity seems at times to be unreasonable. Which is why some trials are judged by benches in the UK.
@whoyawith MADE an EXCELLENT point. When this verdict came down intially I was viciously attacked and told that i did not experience what i did because of how I felt about this particular case. Trauma survivors of ANY kind often times have huge blind spots and generally have difficulty seeing anything other absolute justice. And that only means what they believe what is justice to them in light of their personal experience. That is why those questionnaires are so important. Reading YT comments are so sad and brutal seeing the pain that people have experienced and want others to feel.
Has anyone lived to be an adult and not be victimized in some way or another?? Then there’s people who have been victimized and don’t consider themselves victims. I have been “victimized” In many different ways and still have a hard time defining myself as a victim….
Love your videos you make the law do much easier to understand. I haven't seen anything about this case, but WOW, possible jury tampering... Huge. Thx, I'll forsure be keep an ear out for the end results in this one. New sub. ❤❤❤❤
This is why such hearings should not be public. At least not before they are able to ask questions. I am sure the jurors would watch it. And if not, their family would watch it. It almost instructing the witness. Or even intimidating them. Especially that the defense attorney seemed to slip up and mention the jurors name.
This was a 2nd Degree murder trial… which only requires 6 jurors in Florida. 1st Degree/Capital murder cases require 12 (not including alternates of course for either) but any top charge below this can be tried with just 6 seated jurors. So it’s not just that a person was murdered, it’s the level of the murder charge that dictates how many. HTH!🙂
I’m really wondering if this will affect KR. No wonder they took it to SC. KR couldn’t get this kind of ruling from Judge Bev regarding the jurors finding KR not guilty. Is Florida juror rule different than Massachusetts?
Well the daughter talked to press while still under oath AND walked out during defendant testimony which is also not permitted. The courtroom was not run well.
@@annebosworth7048 please review facts and how a criminal case is conducted. The judge rightly reprimanded her for testifying, was still UNDER OATH and she went straight to the press THE SAME DAY.
Juror 15 was seated in the courtroom while this was going on. It is not known whether or not juror 15 is the same person that allegedly brought in the cellphone during jury deliberations. Always learn so much from you Peter. Thanks for covering this.
I also wanted to add that I find it wild that they are just taking a screenshot from a random chat related to a case and giving it so much merit. If you think about how popular it has become to watch trials and how many different TH-cam channels and networks have chats attached to their trial watching, can you imagine if we took everything serious that was said in these chats? I mean there are trolls everywhere. I could just make something up completely and say my Brother snuck a phone into the deliberation room and he is Ashley Benefield ex-boyfriend which is obviously absurd, but my point is anybody can say anything. I think the only way to really weed out what to give credence to would be is if a juror comes forward and says yeah I saw a phone in the deliberation room or I heard a juror talking about having a phone. Or A family member or friend of a juror comes forward and says that they were being spoken to by the jury inappropriately during the trial. But to just take screenshots from a chat and allow that to possibly blow up an entire trial just seems outrageous to me. Now maybe I’m missing something about the nuances of what happened here, but, what’s to stop somebody who just wants to disrupt the process from saying anything that could cause a disruption to the case after the fact? It seems like there should be a limit and a scope to what they’re giving credence to and why.
I completely agree with everything you’ve said. Loads of people predict things in live TH-cam chats and make up all kinds of things. I was in the chat and loads of people were spamming ‘verdict incoming’ and predicting the outcome. I remember ‘ThatHoodieGuy’ even clarified he was joking replying to another user which wasn’t screenshotted. It was just a massive coincidence. Also to my knowledge what ‘ThatHoodieGuy’ did isn’t a crime? Do you think it’s likely he is contacted
If a juror is found to be dishonest therefor causing the verdict to be thrown out and a retrial occurring, is that juror on the hook for the cost of the original trial? To me it seems like the cost of both trials should not fall on the state and the defendant if someone lied during jury selection and was a part of the verdict deliberations.
I think this is the new normal for lawyers when they loose a case, especially when their client have access to money. Never mind where the info about the jurors are coming from it needs to be just be a whisper
Everyone, I mean everyone deserves a fair trial, we should all want that, we as a society can’t pick and choose who gets a fair trial, it’s just close minded to say I don’t like this defendant so screw them, and it’s ignorant.
This is the trial and verdict that I keep comparing to Sarah Boone’s case and her battered spouse defense. If the jury didn’t believe Ashley, how could any jury believe Boone?
I have to disagree with you about someone not understanding the question. I’ve been physically abused by my ex and divorced him because of all of his abuse. But if I was asked if I’ve ever been a victim of a crime I would have put NO. He wasn’t arrested, it was way back and there are no records and thirdly I don’t think of myself as a victim, but a survivor. Honestly and innocently I would have answer that as a no. I would have been thinking of being arrested, etc.
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I cannot believe a juror cannot answer a yes or no question because they didn't understand. Either you are answering honestly or you are a moron or you don't speak English as a first language or speak English at a College level. DV victims who have commented on this case have shown they don't believe Ashley purely because when they were a DV victim they experienced worse, that they had bruises, that Ashley never got hit before, they think she acts differently to them. Which she does but I don't think DV is just physical abuse. It's the mental emotional abuse as well. What does he say to her? Based on their own experience they cannot believe she is one. I'm not a DV victim but my mom was and they don't beat you day one. It starts with control, putting the person down, chipping away at their self esteem and when you fight back they will become violent. Every time my mom wanted or asked for a divorce he said he'd end her. I heard it. My mom's own lawyers told her to not file on the divorce papers that he abused her. Didn't matter he went to jail for breaking her finger. If you asked people in our circle they believed my dad because she was "crazy". But I was there and saw every slap, every shake, every push and even when he broke her finger. I heard everything he said the put downs and humiliation. People still said my mom manipulated me and I was believing her lies. Erm, no I was there. I saw him asking for every receipt for anything spent, him checking everyday how much gas was used and her kilometres. It is crazy how much emotional abuse a person has to endure before they leave and they are still not believed. If I had been on that juror and they asked has anyone you know and love been a victim of DV I'd answer yes.... answering NO would be a lie.
Surely background check on every sitting juror is cheaper than these meetings. Why even call someone who has a paper trial of DV issues, shouldn't even be called.
Good video! Question for our re-watch chat. I was looking at the merch, and the meme lawful law again made me laugh. Which trial is this referring to? I’ve racked my brain but we have covered soooo many cases!
Watched attorney little during hearing. She had a colleague in the courtroom for the proceeding who reported that Juror 15 was seated across from her for the whole hearing. Wished you knew that for this video.
I believe Peter, that you and the courts give too much "protection " to the jury. They are a jury of our peers because they are using, they live amongst us, and they have to face the public just as we do. There is no such consideration for a wrongfully accused innocent defendant. No such protection for a witness forced to testify. There is no secrecy or protection for the lawyers or the judge. If a juror is of such a weak character that they cannot stand beside their verdict, they do not have the right to give that verdict. No secrecy, no special favors. These are not special people, they are just the people selected from among us for this time, this trial. And no free lawyer unless you qualify. The person may have committed crimes and like any other person accused and brought before the court, these people should answer to the public, in the public. It is after all, the power and authority of the people with which the jurors are entrusted. Why would we want secret juries where no one is actually accountable to the law, to the public or to anything? Sounds like a star chamber, and watching courts and lawyers fawn all over jurors while still treating them like indentured servants, is very sickening. And why would the state argue against questioning the jury. I bet anything of the state has lost and the same issues existed, we would hear the state argue about justice, the interest of truth etc. But why not now, why take such a hard line stance against everything that might actually bring truth? Almost like the state only fights to win regardless of truth, Justice, guilt or innocence. So where is the side that seeks justice and not just a win? It isn't the defense. It isn't the state and clearly it is not the court's role, Maybe we don't have anyone actually seeking truth and justice anymore. So yeah let's keep treating juries like they are the selected candidates in the Hunger Games. Demi gods for now but in reality just peasant slaves without voices.
The biggest red flag for me is the sole fact that someone allegedly is using a flip phone to text. Who's gonna take forever to text from a flip phone with an ABC DEF, and so on, keyboard from a jury room?????? Don't you think someone would notice? I'm calling bs.
LOL at 2:14 when Peter sips his drink I KNEW he was going to say something slick about his game 😂 💀 “ ugh sorry had to take a sip real quick , my voice is a little week from playing pool basketball and came out on top so there is no surprise there” LOL Love you Peter your so funny 🤣
I think there are many cases on which I could serve. If the case involved any abuse by a spouse or a parent, I am not the right choice. I would be concerned testimony could give me flashbacks of my childhood and marriage. I wouldn't want this to interfere with my ability to focus solely on the case at hand, and especially prejudice my decision. You have to know where you can be objective and where something has been so overwhelming in your life that you possibly can't give your best as duty requires.
Peter- a friend of my niece , was reaching back to give her baby a bottle /sippy cup & struck a young man who was working on the highway & evidently another died as well… she turned herself in, she’s a teacher and a young mom of 2… I can absolutely see myself doing that as a mom of 3, (older now) but I can also absolutely see how the families of the 2 deceased are coming from. This is a case where BIAS could definitely come into play… i can’t imagine being on either side. My heart just breaks for everyone 💔
For the love of cheese, act like adults and take this stuff seriously. If it were hoodie phone dude on trial I'm pretty sure he'd be pissed if someone pulled some outrageous bs like this. The judge at 37:01 on this video flipping the page like he did had me rolling.😂😂
Peter keep up the great work educating your viewers. There are quite a few that need to understand evidence vs speculation and opinion but I know you can clarify that. Your channel is growing rapidly so it is to be expected I guess 😂
Absolutely ridiculous! The other people in the law and crime chat were clear that the person was a troll! They didn’t just say ridiculous things about her case!
I agree, I was in the chat and it was just a massive coincidence that he ‘predicted the outcome’. Not that difficult when there are only 3 possible outcomes (guilty, manslaughter or not guilty). The timing was just a coincidence. A broken clock is right twice a day. Also to my knowledge what ‘ThatHoodieGuy’ did wasn’t a crime? Just trolling in a TH-cam live stream. We’re setting an awful precedent where anyone can just make up something and cause jury interviews
Wrongly the Prosecutors and the Jurors DECIDED Ashley wasnt a victim of DV, why should juror 15 be treated any different so sit down Prosecutor, your role is for Justice and not a WIN!
Jurors can send a person to prison, sometimes even sentence them to death-so they damn sure can, and should, be questioned if there’s any hint of misconduct.
Yes, I agree!
Exactly
Absolutely, they should also face consequences if found to have lied or been dishonest
I recently had my first jury selection. Spent all day at the courthouse and right before lunch they started asking us voi dire questions. There were a couple very benign questions that I didn't think could exclude anyone or include anyone. And then they asked if there was anybody who like to follow certain crimes or cases on the internet. I had to raise my hand. There was a little chuckle. And then when we got back from lunch I was dismissed along with 24 other people. I don't know if that's why I wasn't selected or not, but I think probably yes.
What state do you live in? I bet you could have been on a case you watch 😆
That’s interesting. It’s a different “game” these days, for sure.
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I start Grand Jury duty next week. It should be interesting. Court TV is on in my house all day long plus I follow the lawyers on TH-cam for commentary.
I like to watch interrogations, some trials, this channel, plus follow some developing stories/pending trials, etc. I thought to myself the other day if my interest in real crime could get me dismissed from a jury.
The prosecutor thinks accusing someone of lying without evidence is offensive? Yes, prosecutor. Yes it is.
But the proscutor didn't lie did she...unlike Ashley and juror..
That prosecutors whole voice changed when the defense was granted the motion haha loved it
Juror 15 was IN court for this hearing. She made a motion pro se prior to the hearing starting with the judge to have her court records sealed. It was denied because she didn’t site other cases for why this should be done. Defense asked for her to leave for the actual hearing, judge said she could stay, and she did.
Crazy that THIS grants a juror interview, yet Bev REFUSES to interview not out of juror misconduct, but to just get them to CLARIFY their verdict. Trash.
The MA Supreme Court just agreed to hear the issue of the appeal of Bevs judgement to not allow a juror interview, thankfully. I think arguments are scheduled for mid-late October.
Hopefully, our Supreme Court has more sense than Judge Bev.
@@justkim9827 while they are at it, they should get a change of venue. how on earth this case is permitted to go to trial in that town is beyond me.
UGH Can NOT stand Judge Bev! She is the worst and should NOT be on the Karen Read Trial.. So very biased!
YES
Exactly what I was thinking!!! I PRAY the SJC gets it right as they agreed to hear it… then hopefully they put something in place to where the judge MUST ask the jurors, on the record, that they are hung on each indictment…. Even if there is 1. Poll the jury every-time even if it’s 1 indictment. But if it’s 1 indictment, ask each, yes or no, if they are each hung on “Indictment 1”. Then they can say “Yes” that they are hung. Then move on to indictment #2 etc.
I’m no lawyer, I’m just trying to think that this never happens to anyone in MA because “that’s how it’s done in Massachusetts”. Something obviously needs to be changed, and I can only wonder if this case isn’t the first where this has happened but the first we are hearing about it because it is a high profile case. Which just makes this all the more scarier to be honest.
I love this judge! He’s very fair & methodical.
Thanks for starting on this case Peter. Am glad the jurors will be interviewed! Well done judge!🙏😊
We need to make it a standard going forward that when jurors are selected for jury duty, they must attend a day in court prior to trial starting, where they do some type of educational course on the basics of the legal system. The concepts of innocent until proven guilty, readonable doubt, burdens, etc should all be thoroughly taught and understood before someone is allowed to sit on a jury
That’s a good idea sometimes a case can be very complicated
I agree 💯
It benefits the state (in most cases) to have an uneducated jury.
Who'd wanna be a juror then? I have stuff to do. Jurors just need to not lie.
Excellent idea!! Add confirming juror answers are 100% true, before trial
This juror was not only a DV victim; she was also charged with being a DV perpetrator herself & her son grew up to be charged in his teens with SA. I want to just throttle this prosecutor.
Thank you everyone is saying the juror is the victim I heard it as the husband and / or son was the victim. I thought I was wrong.
Sometimes I listen to
These arguments and I get the feeling that the State is more interested in “winning” rather than ensuring Justice. I was disgusted by these prosecutors at the time because I disagree with their “proof “ that Ashlie was not abused. IDK if she was or not, but I think they invalidate many victims who don’t behave a certain way. Adam Lally and Cari Morrisey are other recent examples that I don’t think care about justice as much as just winning.
Add the prosecutor from Carly Gregg trial in this list!
Like when she said they didn't want follow-ups to be a thing during the questioning... why? Isn't that what re-direct is? You ask questions, and you might get more questions as well as answers.
The State in this case are concerned with winning this case too much. It's very apparent.
Jules, from the Maya trial, was in court today for this hearing. She said juror #15 was not only in the courtroom for this, but she also filed a motion for the judge to seal her background. The judge asked her "under what statutes?" She didn't present any and simply said it was embarrassing & humiliating. The judge also told her she has the opportunity to supplement or refile her motion. There was a notice of appearance filed on her behalf by a lawyer and co-council. Also, before the proceedings began AB lawyers asked the judge to escort juror #15 from the courtroom because she would be testifying on this matter. The judge declined saying the court is open to the public. Thought all that was very interesting! Don't feel right about her being able to stay in the courtroom, but it is her right and her lawyers would be able to watch these proceedings anyway.
That's weird, that the Judge let the juror stick around for the arguments. If she is gonna be testifying, she shouldn't be sitting in the room. It applies to every witness, so I don't get why it wouldn't apply to her.
@@justkim9827 I was just as stunned because she sat directly across from me. I kind of felt bad. She was tearing up
@@justkim9827I wouldn't consider her a witness. She's been accused of something, she's more similar to a defendant, and defendants have the right to be present.
I like this judge.
I was asked if I every had to testify in a DV case, I raised my hand and the judge called me up to talk privately about that case.
Peter you need to teach classes on how to be on a jury.
This is a good idea, however each state is different, it might not be practical
Thank you Peter for keeping us updated on the juror issue post-trial in this case! 💗 I always value your opinions, insights, and expertise on these cases from a legal perspective.
I appreciate your perspective of bias Peter, I was amazed at comments on trial by DV victims saying things like….I was in a DV situation and I got out alive without killing my partner so she’s guilty! Extremely harsh statements from some DV victims.
I've been in a DV situation, got out without killing my partner, and felt horrible for her that she got put into the position (allegedly, we can't prove it without being in her head) that she felt the only way to keep her family safe was to do that. I really think it's horrible to victim blame in general, but especially if they've been in that position.
@@TheDianeBrewer Ashley wasn’t with him for very long. Even went on a cruise right after married. I still don’t know why a paternity test wasn’t done. However, if it weren’t for the “full” textbook of her claims, I’d believe her. She claimed decades of abuse in a short span of time. Speaking as a 45 year still licensed counselor and 35 year RN, retired.
Weird that they can interview jurors in all these other cases... except in the Karen Read case. Ridiculous.
What is up with these juries?? We need to educate these jurors more then we do. Every single case in the last months , has problems with the jury. Then need to fill out a questionnaire. Then the lawyers need to ask better question. Maybe we need to change the questionnaire. It you don't understand then you shouldn't be picked. We just had a jury ask What does like in prison means? Yet they are deciding if you go to prison for life or not.
Melanie little interviewed someone that watched the trial, and was there at this hearing. Juror 15 was in the courtroom and talked to the judge before the hearing, then sat in the courtroom after the juror’s motion was denied. (Juror wanted their records sealed).
That was me. I guess Peter wasn't aware of what happened before this.
WHEN are jurors going to start taking this seriously? They are playing a higher power with people’s lives. One jury had to ask what a sentence of life without parole meant. And these folks should be trusted with someone’s life? I think it is pretty scary.
Have you ever served on a jury? I have been on five, and every time, everyone took it very seriously. It is very stressful, and there is a lot of pressure. This will go nowhere. She was not the only juror that voted her guilty.
@@melissaray1466 I sure have. And just because the juries that you sat on were honest, doesn’t mean all of them are. Neither of us know which way this is going to go, until the juror interviews have been conducted.
Maybe the reason jurors don't take this seriously enough is because the entire system is such a joke today.
How many persecutions have we witnessed in the last ten years. The entire system weaponized at the highest levels to either persecute or protect some while treating others the opposite.
We have, going back to the OJ trial, watched pervasive corruption from the state in case after case after case.
Juries reach a verdict knowing it means nothing, everything is appealed and seemingly there are always appealable issues that overturn verdicts anyway.
We have lawyers being terrorized, judges not being removed when they should, trials that go on and on over the dumbest crap and so many laws without victims that we have become numb to the idea of lawful vs unlawful, the difference seems absolutely and completely arbitrary.
And maybe we shouldn't treat jurors any differently than we treat a defendant or a witness, they are after all peers.
I don't want my name known or my face shown as a defendant but I don't have that choice, doesn't matter if I'm innocent or not.
I don't want to be there as a witness and be questioned and cross examined, but I don't have that choice.
Juries don't want their names known but they will give a verdict taking life liberty and property, all while sitting in a public courtroom?
Please.
Let's stop pretending the jurors are special or need some great protection more than the rest of us.
I served on a jury top. The thing that struck me most was the boss and prejudice of the judge throughout the trial and then later the deference and ignorance displayed by jurors tripping over themselves to please the court and come to an unlawful unjust verdict.
People acted serious but to say they actually seriously thought would be far less true.
People are people, the idiots who can't drive on the road can still send you away for life.
I don't give juries any extra respect or deference because I have seen the wrongfully convicted people that juries put away.
They usually are not maliciously prejudiced but from my experience, they are cowards and easily motivated by emotions.
When even the judges don't follow the laws and rules, why would jurors take those rules seriously?
Cops don't follow the laws. Prosecutors don't follow the laws
The government agents and agencies don't follow the laws. It's all about power ,control and welding authority over others.
We give juries a title, treat them like they are special, and then they act just like entitled people with the illusion of power. They act just like the examples they see throughout the system.
And we wonder why they might do these things? I don't. I think it is actually obvious and simple to understand.
Just thoughts
I missed the live. This Juor came in and asked her records be sealed (pro se) motion. It was denied and she was sitting in court during the hearing to inquire about this. I hope you understand how I put that.
Yes and while she is in court room Taylor basically tells her to plead the 5th. Maybe to force the judge to call a mistral or am I way off base?
In Michigan here when I filled out my jury questionnaire it asked have you ever been a witness for a criminal case and explain or have a criminal history how could someone get that confused
Thank you for the update Peter. I always value your insight, experience, and POV.
Thank you for.doing a good job
Watching from Northampton in England
IF a juror , who is sworn under ath to follow the law and instructions, DID bring a cellphone into deliberations, revealed info from verdict deliberations finding, or lied on questionnaire….they should be held in contempt, AND jailed for at least 6 months. This duty is serious.
I can't help but feel for Doug's daughter, Eva.
Thinking she felt she finally got closure for her dad being mvrdered, only to realize there's going to be a juror interview & possible retrial due to jury misconduct.
Thanks Peter and team for always being spot on with the updates.Can always count of you all.👏
I’ve found that often DV victims do not support other DV victims as they think that all victims should behave the same way they did or that someone else is in a better position than them therefore it’s not as bad as what happened to them. It’s incredibly sad but true.
I disagree victims have compassion for other victims... the only problem that can arise is a true victim can spot a fake one...
@@annebosworth7048no they don’t and it was shown in this case
@@annebosworth7048 That’s the problem. They THINK they can spot a fake one. Lying about being a victim of DV is quite rare in reality, perpetrators get away with it very commonly as they are often very charming to everyone else and are clever about their abuse. Plus there is no stereotype of a victim, they could be anyone. You’ve just proven my point for me really, I know of many DV victims who were not believed by other DV victims.
@@GinaWelsh firstly she hasn't lived with him for 3 years... she lived separate to him.. she said he poisoned her that was a lie, she said he SA on baby a lie, he didn't DV on baby more lies... he wanted a divorce cause she had a boyfriend but she didn't want a divorce so tricked him into thinking they were getting back together and moving to another state, then asked him to help her pack then killed him while mom and baby was at park,, so when did the domestic violence happen...??
@@annebosworth7048 I don’t know a lot about this case specifically, I was speaking generally and in response to the statement about victims of DV generally being more supportive of other DV victims which I’ve found not to necessarily be the case.
I quite disliked the prosecutors in this trial, very dismissive and aggressively biased. She even tried to have the defense layer sanctioned by the judge.
I have no knowledge about this trial, however, just hearing about another juror misconduct I’m here for Peter’s take on it ⚖️
I think it’s kind of crappy that an online troll talking nonsense just to get attention could result in the court actually taking action to interview jurors. I think this just makes trolls more likely to do this again since all they want is a response. They will be HYPE knowing they can cause chaos and have no repercussions.
It’s more about juror 15
It was not a troll .
It's the totality of the circumstances that make it suspicious, otherwise sure. If it's nothing then it's nothing. If it's something then it's something.
I'm with you about this troll!!😤 And of course Taylor has ZERO evidence, aside from a SCREENSHOT of a live chat, that this is "true". And he said in the last hearing that the comment was deleted from the chat by L&C because THEY WERE COVERING UP this juror misconduct ON PURPOSE!! The removal was a cover-up by Law & Crime!! They knew what they were doing! 🙄 smdh Ummm… noooo… it was deleted bc L&C KNEW HE WAS A TROLL trying to start sh!t & the mods were trying to prevent this troll from getting attention!! But Taylor is trying EVERYTHING to get this convicted murderer outta jail.😒. (I kinda want this troll to post during another verdict watch soon - as hes done this before - so we ALL can send screenshots to Taylor showing his "sister" magically got seated in another trial in another state & snuck a flip-phone into THAT deliberation, too!😂🙄😏)
Thank you for breaking down. I have learned alot from listening to you and how you break down what they are doing and what different things means
WHAT A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AUNTIE BEV AND MY DUDE WHYTE! He is a G & a gentleman
Can a juror be fined for all this mess which costs court money and time??
Totally agree that Mrs. LYK is a huge asset! She brings the "real" - the non-atty perspective, but she also lives with/watches a lawyer & in my experience, a lot of legal stuff seeps in, as if my osmosis. Great combo with LYK input. 👏🏽👏🏽
They HAVE to hit harder on the child custody case. Juror 12 lost custody due to allegations of abuse, so that is very prejudicial to Ashley, who was trying to do that to Doug.
Kids are a big motivator.
The judge didnt even mention it.
Saw Melanie little earlier and juror 15 was in court with them today before this hearing and was asking for her criminal records to be sealed. Judge denied and she stayed for this hearing too
Yay! 🤩 Peter, your videos make my day! I’m so interested in law now thanks to you! I can’t tell you how much I look forward to your “What’s up everybody!”! ♥️
Juror 15 was in court for all of this!
I'm glad someone brought this up in chat, but it's worth re-iterating. There's no guarantee that a trauma survivor is going to be sympathetic to another survivor. There is no such thing as a perfect victim and this idea that a trauma survivor was not only angelic before trauma, but will continue to be angelic after trauma needs to die. Trauma is traumatic. Victims can come out the other side more empathetic, less empathetic, or as empathetic as they always were. There's no way to predict how someone will react to trauma.
If a person comes out less empathetic, empathy has to be re-learned. The event is so big and so impactful that a person's worldview narrows to their own experience, and their internal experience becomes the yard stick with which they judge others. I've watched people go through that. It's not pretty. /Nothing/ about trauma is pretty. The opposite end of the stick (hyper-empathy) likewise has to be un-learned. It might sound like it's more positive, but hyper-empathy is just as debilitating. Both ends of the spectrum are examples of hyper-vigilance. "Something hurt me, but I know what it looks like and I only have enough space to react to things that look like it" or "Something hurt me, therefore everything is dangerous, everyone is in danger, and I'll only be safe if I see the signs in everything".
I understand this prosecutor was making an argument, but her conduct and how she talks about trauma makes me absolutely livid.
Juror 15 asked the judge before this hearing to seal her records. She also set in during this while hearing. Judge said it was open and she could stay.
In the UK there is no such thing as jury selection. What you get is what you get. It amazes me how lawyers can interview jurors in America.
We have a very specific constitutional right to a fair trial. It makes a difference.
Interesting 🧐 Thanks for sharing!
@@LawNerdAmberWhat is a fair trial? I put it to you there is no such thing. There is no fullproof way of getting a non biased jury. It's an illusion.
Best alternative is a bench of three judges, but after viewing the antics of Judge Cannone, Gull and others seems some Judges are potential canonballs.
No. Jury of one's peers have been the best of any system of all around fairness towards justice. Of course there are bugaboos within the totality of the system--and we continue to try to catch and rectify those. But a bench judge(s) trial is alarmingly riddled with problems.
@@cherylsouza4926 In the UK jurors are not allowed to talk about cases. That seems the right approach. By over analysing jury deliberations it undermines the system. Jurys aren't perfect so you have to live with the shortcomings. In France they abolished juries for all but the most serious cases because of corruption.
I think American jurors do a tremendous job but the courts demands and complexity seems at times to be unreasonable. Which is why some trials are judged by benches in the UK.
Some people think that being a victim of dm requires a certain level of injury .
@whoyawith MADE an EXCELLENT point. When this verdict came down intially I was viciously attacked and told that i did not experience what i did because of how I felt about this particular case. Trauma survivors of ANY kind often times have huge blind spots and generally have difficulty seeing anything other absolute justice. And that only means what they believe what is justice to them in light of their personal experience. That is why those questionnaires are so important. Reading YT comments are so sad and brutal seeing the pain that people have experienced and want others to feel.
Guess we aren’t in Massachusetts anymore ……Auntie Bev
Great job. I learn so much each time. 👋
i just really don’t like this prosecutor. i’m glad that this seems to be an actually fair and balanced judge
Same!!!!!
Has anyone lived to be an adult and not be victimized in some way or another?? Then there’s people who have been victimized and don’t consider themselves victims. I have been “victimized” In many different ways and still have a hard time defining myself as a victim….
Love your videos you make the law do much easier to understand. I haven't seen anything about this case, but WOW, possible jury tampering... Huge. Thx, I'll forsure be keep an ear out for the end results in this one. New sub. ❤❤❤❤
Thanks! Enjoy your content and commentary.
This is why such hearings should not be public. At least not before they are able to ask questions. I am sure the jurors would watch it. And if not, their family would watch it. It almost instructing the witness. Or even intimidating them. Especially that the defense attorney seemed to slip up and mention the jurors name.
Juror names are public info. And who cares if they watch? Either they tell the truth or not when questioned by the Judge.
Great video, thx. Please cover Maya.
I love this morning podcast with your wife. She is so adorable and you both are such a joy to listen too. Thank you
What determines when there are six or twelve jurors? I always thought a murder trial was 12. Thanks for all you do to explain these cases to us.
This was a 2nd Degree murder trial… which only requires 6 jurors in Florida. 1st Degree/Capital murder cases require 12 (not including alternates of course for either) but any top charge below this can be tried with just 6 seated jurors. So it’s not just that a person was murdered, it’s the level of the murder charge that dictates how many. HTH!🙂
I’m really wondering if this will affect KR. No wonder they took it to SC. KR couldn’t get this kind of ruling from Judge Bev regarding the jurors finding KR not guilty. Is Florida juror rule different than Massachusetts?
Well the daughter talked to press while still under oath AND walked out during defendant testimony which is also not permitted. The courtroom was not run well.
She didn't talk about her testimony.
@@JeanMarieRNshe was still admonished for talking to the press during her testimony
Doug,s daughter is a victim not on a jury... big difference
@@davidreece5867which was wrong she's a victim also..
@@annebosworth7048 please review facts and how a criminal case is conducted. The judge rightly reprimanded her for testifying, was still UNDER OATH and she went straight to the press THE SAME DAY.
She can have herself 8 more trials and she still going to prison. 🤷♀️
The evidence wasn’t that strong
Ashely should have been found not guilty.
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Jury got it wrong!
Meh, a fair jury may prove you wrong. Sounds like the only way to convict is with shady jurors...
@@davidreece5867yes they were
Correct!! She is guilty
Juror 15 was seated in the courtroom while this was going on. It is not known whether or not juror 15 is the same person that allegedly brought in the cellphone during jury deliberations. Always learn so much from you Peter. Thanks for covering this.
Thanks🙏
I appreciate the short intro
Grrrrr. These prosecutors are completely repulsive-not very bright AND nasty for absolutely no reason.
It's their job prosecutors can't be softys can they..
@@annebosworth7048it's not their job to be biased.
@@johnmorgun9961 all prosecutor's believe in their case, by the evidence they have on the defendant is guilty, so of course they are biased...
I also wanted to add that I find it wild that they are just taking a screenshot from a random chat related to a case and giving it so much merit. If you think about how popular it has become to watch trials and how many different TH-cam channels and networks have chats attached to their trial watching, can you imagine if we took everything serious that was said in these chats? I mean there are trolls everywhere. I could just make something up completely and say my Brother snuck a phone into the deliberation room and he is Ashley Benefield ex-boyfriend which is obviously absurd, but my point is anybody can say anything. I think the only way to really weed out what to give credence to would be is if a juror comes forward and says yeah I saw a phone in the deliberation room or I heard a juror talking about having a phone. Or A family member or friend of a juror comes forward and says that they were being spoken to by the jury inappropriately during the trial. But to just take screenshots from a chat and allow that to possibly blow up an entire trial just seems outrageous to me. Now maybe I’m missing something about the nuances of what happened here, but, what’s to stop somebody who just wants to disrupt the process from saying anything that could cause a disruption to the case after the fact? It seems like there should be a limit and a scope to what they’re giving credence to and why.
I completely agree with everything you’ve said. Loads of people predict things in live TH-cam chats and make up all kinds of things. I was in the chat and loads of people were spamming ‘verdict incoming’ and predicting the outcome. I remember ‘ThatHoodieGuy’ even clarified he was joking replying to another user which wasn’t screenshotted. It was just a massive coincidence. Also to my knowledge what ‘ThatHoodieGuy’ did isn’t a crime? Do you think it’s likely he is contacted
I live in this county and I felt like this prosecution had a disgusting attitude towards DV in general
If a juror is found to be dishonest therefor causing the verdict to be thrown out and a retrial occurring, is that juror on the hook for the cost of the original trial? To me it seems like the cost of both trials should not fall on the state and the defendant if someone lied during jury selection and was a part of the verdict deliberations.
I think this is the new normal for lawyers when they loose a case, especially when their client have access to money. Never mind where the info about the jurors are coming from it needs to be just be a whisper
Everyone, I mean everyone deserves a fair trial, we should all want that, we as a society can’t pick and choose who gets a fair trial, it’s just close minded to say I don’t like this defendant so screw them, and it’s ignorant.
This is the trial and verdict that I keep comparing to Sarah Boone’s case and her battered spouse defense. If the jury didn’t believe Ashley, how could any jury believe Boone?
I have to disagree with you about someone not understanding the question. I’ve been physically abused by my ex and divorced him because of all of his abuse. But if I was asked if I’ve ever been a victim of a crime I would have put NO. He wasn’t arrested, it was way back and there are no records and thirdly I don’t think of myself as a victim, but a survivor. Honestly and innocently I would have answer that as a no. I would have been thinking of being arrested, etc.
How do we KNOW there were no incoming messages?
Has it occurred to anyone that the jurors could be watching this?
I believe juror 15 was a victim and perpetrator of abuse.
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She did great! No surprise there!!! 🥰
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I cannot believe a juror cannot answer a yes or no question because they didn't understand. Either you are answering honestly or you are a moron or you don't speak English as a first language or speak English at a College level.
DV victims who have commented on this case have shown they don't believe Ashley purely because when they were a DV victim they experienced worse, that they had bruises, that Ashley never got hit before, they think she acts differently to them. Which she does but I don't think DV is just physical abuse. It's the mental emotional abuse as well. What does he say to her?
Based on their own experience they cannot believe she is one. I'm not a DV victim but my mom was and they don't beat you day one. It starts with control, putting the person down, chipping away at their self esteem and when you fight back they will become violent. Every time my mom wanted or asked for a divorce he said he'd end her. I heard it.
My mom's own lawyers told her to not file on the divorce papers that he abused her. Didn't matter he went to jail for breaking her finger. If you asked people in our circle they believed my dad because she was "crazy". But I was there and saw every slap, every shake, every push and even when he broke her finger. I heard everything he said the put downs and humiliation. People still said my mom manipulated me and I was believing her lies. Erm, no I was there. I saw him asking for every receipt for anything spent, him checking everyday how much gas was used and her kilometres. It is crazy how much emotional abuse a person has to endure before they leave and they are still not believed.
If I had been on that juror and they asked has anyone you know and love been a victim of DV I'd answer yes.... answering NO would be a lie.
Both you and Lawyer Lee are great and helping us to understand cases...BTW, If you grew out your hair you'd be a spittin image of Yanni:-0
Peter, it's more like the jurors are voluntold, not volunteering their time!
🤣 Soooooo true! 🤣
🤣 Sooooooooo true!!! 🤣
I'm just now watching this. What happened to bring this juror into question?
At this point, maybe all trials should only be a bench trials!
Yeeeeee!! Shoutout to LAKELAND! Go Judd! Haha! Love your insights as always!
I can totally see how being a victim of a crime might not get checked in the case of DV, esp is charges weren't pressed.
In my opinion is that Taylor knew about this juror but thought incorrectly that she would be favorable to the defense.
Surely background check on every sitting juror is cheaper than these meetings. Why even call someone who has a paper trial of DV issues, shouldn't even be called.
The phone issue may not be juror 15, it could be another one of them.
Good video! Question for our re-watch chat. I was looking at the merch, and the meme lawful law again made me laugh. Which trial is this referring to? I’ve racked my brain but we have covered soooo many cases!
I believe that gem came from the Brooks case if I'm not mistaken.
It is the Darrell brooks trial.
@@BuchCherryoh Yes! That was a crazy trial! Thank you!
Please keep up with anything in the Maya case.
Watched attorney little during hearing. She had a colleague in the courtroom for the proceeding who reported that Juror 15 was seated across from her for the whole hearing. Wished you knew that for this video.
I believe Peter, that you and the courts give too much "protection " to the jury.
They are a jury of our peers because they are using, they live amongst us, and they have to face the public just as we do.
There is no such consideration for a wrongfully accused innocent defendant. No such protection for a witness forced to testify.
There is no secrecy or protection for the lawyers or the judge.
If a juror is of such a weak character that they cannot stand beside their verdict, they do not have the right to give that verdict.
No secrecy, no special favors. These are not special people, they are just the people selected from among us for this time, this trial.
And no free lawyer unless you qualify. The person may have committed crimes and like any other person accused and brought before the court, these people should answer to the public, in the public. It is after all, the power and authority of the people with which the jurors are entrusted.
Why would we want secret juries where no one is actually accountable to the law, to the public or to anything?
Sounds like a star chamber, and watching courts and lawyers fawn all over jurors while still treating them like indentured servants, is very sickening.
And why would the state argue against questioning the jury.
I bet anything of the state has lost and the same issues existed, we would hear the state argue about justice, the interest of truth etc.
But why not now, why take such a hard line stance against everything that might actually bring truth?
Almost like the state only fights to win regardless of truth, Justice, guilt or innocence.
So where is the side that seeks justice and not just a win?
It isn't the defense.
It isn't the state and clearly it is not the court's role,
Maybe we don't have anyone actually seeking truth and justice anymore.
So yeah let's keep treating juries like they are the selected candidates in the Hunger Games. Demi gods for now but in reality just peasant slaves without voices.
The biggest red flag for me is the sole fact that someone allegedly is using a flip phone to text. Who's gonna take forever to text from a flip phone with an ABC DEF, and so on, keyboard from a jury room?????? Don't you think someone would notice? I'm calling bs.
She’s so guilty. Who unpacks two loaded guns while moving.
@@janeaustenist how exactly should you pack and store your guns before a move? Seems like thr last things to go in the truck if at all....
You know the juror in question is watching this
LOL at 2:14 when Peter sips his drink I KNEW he was going to say something slick about his game 😂 💀
“ ugh sorry had to take a sip real quick , my voice is a little week from playing pool basketball and came out on top so there is no surprise there” LOL
Love you Peter your so funny 🤣
I think there are many cases on which I could serve. If the case involved any abuse by a spouse or a parent, I am not the right choice. I would be concerned testimony could give me flashbacks of my childhood and marriage. I wouldn't want this to interfere with my ability to focus solely on the case at hand, and especially prejudice my decision. You have to know where you can be objective and where something has been so overwhelming in your life that you possibly can't give your best as duty requires.
Peter- a friend of my niece , was reaching back to give her baby a bottle /sippy cup & struck a young man who was working on the highway & evidently another died as well… she turned herself in, she’s a teacher and a young mom of 2… I can absolutely see myself doing that as a mom of 3, (older now) but I can also absolutely see how the families of the 2 deceased are coming from. This is a case where BIAS could definitely come into play… i can’t imagine being on either side. My heart just breaks for everyone 💔
Hi Chat!
I like the dispassionate logical way the defense attorney asks were you “ complete and accurate”rather than did u m’fukin lie? Much better approach.
😂 Could you imagine if attorneys said what they really wanna say?
For the love of cheese, act like adults and take this stuff seriously. If it were hoodie phone dude on trial I'm pretty sure he'd be pissed if someone pulled some outrageous bs like this.
The judge at 37:01 on this video flipping the page like he did had me rolling.😂😂
Peter keep up the great work educating your viewers. There are quite a few that need to understand evidence vs speculation and opinion but I know you can clarify that. Your channel is growing rapidly so it is to be expected I guess 😂
No phones for jurors.
I really l like this judge.
Absolutely ridiculous! The other people in the law and crime chat were clear that the person was a troll! They didn’t just say ridiculous things about her case!
I agree, I was in the chat and it was just a massive coincidence that he ‘predicted the outcome’. Not that difficult when there are only 3 possible outcomes (guilty, manslaughter or not guilty). The timing was just a coincidence. A broken clock is right twice a day. Also to my knowledge what ‘ThatHoodieGuy’ did wasn’t a crime? Just trolling in a TH-cam live stream. We’re setting an awful precedent where anyone can just make up something and cause jury interviews
How did the chat know? How do you know. We don't. That's the whole damn point.
Wrongly the Prosecutors and the Jurors DECIDED Ashley wasnt a victim of DV, why should juror 15 be treated any different so sit down Prosecutor, your role is for Justice and not a WIN!