Brompton Advance Roller Wheels - will they fit a standard Brompton
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ส.ค. 2024
- Since the introduction of the P Line with its new (bigger) advance roller wheels we have been asked many times the following question:
Will the Brompton advance roller wheels fit on a standard Brompton
To be honest we were lazy and said no - the bolt looked different
In this video we finally get around to trying it
(spoiler alert ... the answer is actually yes!)
We also show the different wheels and their diameters and weights
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Many thanks! I think that’s a good thing?
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Indeed!
Thanks for a great video. Just the information we all wanted to know. Now let’s hope Brompton give us the advanced on all their bikes.
Thanks for watching! Who knows and fingers crossed!
As always a brilliant video. Thanks for taking the time to explain these upgrades and what fits.
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Excellent and helpful video! Thank you!
Very handy vid, this.
Currently running Easy Wheels, but Advanced wheels added to basket.
I turned up my own in my workshop. 9mm thick & 75mm diameter. Black nylon6 with stainless steel sleeves. Cost - basically zero & an hour of my time.😊😊😊😊 My next job will be to fabricate the extending axle set up. But currently making a lighweight folding trailer.
Great presentation: informative, and you’re charming understated delivery is delightful 👍⚡️
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Charming is the word!
another excellent video 👍🏼 as usual, very informative & useful to know the different specifications before making a purchase/to replace the wheels, thanks so much !!!
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Thank you for another excellent video. IMHO given what you have shown it’s hard to justify them as an upgrade for a C-line bike, apart from a visual point of view.
Thank you for watching and we are a bit with you! I like the Eazy wheels the best so far!
Thank you for the detailed technicals! 🙏🏼
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Thanks for that, hope the Advance ez wheels will come as a standalone purchase.
They are available as a separate purchase 😀
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¡Muchas gracias por todos tus consejos! 😍
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Thank you for the great video. Another option is the SON wheel set. I love the optics and functionality of the SON Easy Wheels. Diameter also 6 cm.
Thank you for another excellent video.
Thank you 😊
It would be great to know if the newer mudguards fit on the standard Brompton too! :)
Thanks for the suggestion, we will look into it!
Love your video’s!!!
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That video was wheely wheely good.
Thanks so much for watching! Glad it was wheely good!
there is a slight mistake on the measurement... instead of 65mm u have indicate 60mm for the advance roller wheel
It would be good to see how bike without racks sit with each type of wheel.
Thanks for the suggestion! We will add it to the To Do List
She actually doesn't talk slow
o/w good vid
about wheels
Fitted the Eazy Wheels on both our Bromptons when we bought them. Can't see the point of the Advanced Rollsr Wheel over the Eazy Wheels apart from they look fancy. 😁
Many thanks for watching! We also love the Eazy wheels!
Would love to see a video on Advance mudguard and if they fit on the c line.
Also the rear frame locking block
Hi. DO I have to change the roller wheel on the mudguard as well if I have changed two of them into the advance roller wheels? Just a bit concerned about if it will be imbalance
Every gram counts to make the P line lighter even if the components might not be superior. When you look at the weight difference of the rear end it’s around 300g, so the hub gears have to go, so do the more puncture resistant tyres and tubes, then scrape grams away on areas which don’t directly affect the overall performance/reliability. Wheels with bearings are heavier, so they are junked in favour of a wheel with a plain bush and then called ‘advanced’ to hide the obvious reduction in quality.
That ratchet arm was meaty! Over torquing would be easy with that amount of leverage. Or was it a torque wrench, if so details please?
Ah yes you are right, it is a torque wrench. This one is made by Intense and sold with their bikes
Thank you for watching!
Do the 5mm eazy wheels work with the p line rear triangle? And would it still be seen as an upgrade?
Thanks for watching and for the question. No the 5 mm are for the pre-2016 rack, the 6 mm version would work, but they are slightly smaller, they do have bearings rather than bushings, so kind of yes and no.
Historically there must have been a wheel between your conical and roller wheel because my 2020 M6L came with 44mm roller wheels, not conical. I thought these were standard until I purchased the Brompton rack kit that came with four 54mm roller wheels.
I've fitted the new P-Line wheels onto my C-Line Urban. Not worth it in my opinion and my Brompton is very unbalanced in folded mode and constantly falls over on the train. They look better but I'm going to put the old small roller wheels back on.
We find the best for rolling the Eazy wheels.
Thanks for watching
Thank you! Do you happen to know if the Advanced would successfully replace the Easy on the rear rack?
You did miss quote and miss write the diameter of the largest wheel. 65mm. Said at 65mm first then changed to 60mm!?
Whooops! Yea they are 65! Sorry and thanks for watching so closely!
@brilliantbikes Are the wheels newer than the conical wheels also designed to break, or do they no longer break to protect the frame?
Is there any washers to be added in between the roller wheels and rear triangle ? Seems like none , ordinal advance roller wheels set doesn’t includes any spacers right ?
Sorry if I missed this, is it true that the c line 2024 model comes with advanced roller wheels?
Just the C Line electric 😀. Thanks for watching!
@@brilliantbikes thank you! Any major improvements for regular c line in 2024?
Thank you! Which wheels do you prefer?
On a C Line, the Eazy wheels, they roll the best.
Thanks for watching!
But will the bike tip over when folded with the bigger roller wheels? This has been an issue at least with 3rd party ones previously.
They are not that big, so far we have not had issues with them.
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The best wheels that I found were inline skate wheels - they come in many colours and look great on my c line electric Brompton.
The only thing to be cautious of, is the Brompton roller wheels are designed to break before the frame.
Thanks for watching!
Your screen says 60mm for Advance Wheels 🛞 should be 65mm as mentioned. 😅
Cool video , The advance wheels look good but I’ve found a set from London craftwork that work really well for me. They are 63mm and look like roller blade wheels. Mine has the rack and I use it in shopping cart mode (folded except handlebars, borough bag on)quite often . It rolls really nice
🛒💨 and haven’t caught my heels 👠 on them once ❗️
Is that really a thing❓ 😄
Yes it really is! He old conical wheels were great heal grabbers!
Thanks for watching!
This is brilliant!
Could I ask what the widths of each of these are please?
Thank you very much.
Not sure why s_s cycles are saying only for P & T line bikes?
We also thought it was just for the P and T line, then tried it :)
Thanks for watching!
Information about the size of bolt would have been helpful, to help explain what can be retrofitted both to the rear triangle and rack.
The bolt is the same size, so the Advnace roller wheel will fit the standard Brompton using the bolts that come with them. They are all 6mm for the rear frame, only the older racks need a 5mm bolt (pre-2017)
Thanks for watching!
Very useful. Thank you
Will they fit the c line rack as well?
😄As an owner of a 2019 Superligth I absolutely - Hated the small original - useless wheels, so I bought the larger version and later some finely made, eastern, metal versions. Today I have two 10 cm wheels (titanium bolts!) on my bike and it rolls like a "tank" on a rough surface, and I'm used to have my heels free of them when pedalling. I also have an "axle-extender" made with a nice carbon tube in the middle and alu parts to bolt it on my bike (titanium bolts!).
And a new, black Titanium seat post (My bike is a black version) in the standard length, to be able to fold it inside a B&W travel box, though I am too tall for a "standard" post, as 184 cm. But it is stopped when pulled out in full. So absolutely no need for an insert! When asking, I was advised by Brompton to buy a "telescope post" for - travels, to be able to easily remove the top and saddle, but it is a very heavy solution, so I also have a 600 mm, black titanium post with a fixed, round saddle mount on top, to just be pulled out from the frame.🤔 I will see what actually functions? Finn. Denmark
I have later found also intermediate length, black Titanium posts on the internet (Non, original Brompton, but still with the security bottom in the end, to prevent theft!)
Are the advance roller wheels made of aluminium or plastic?
Many thanks for the question, they are plastic.
More wheels - this money for old rope! So "Advanced" over "Eazy" is 5mm bigger, 5g less, no roller bearing and £6 a pair more expensive. What bothers me is that the bigger Eazy wheel already makes the folded bike less stable because it lifts the front wheel off the ground. The Advanced wheel will only make that worse. A way around this would be to make the fork hook adjustable to let the wheel drop closer to the ground.
Interestingly the box says "compatible with all Brompton bikes" which seems to counter the previous advice that the were only suitable for the afore-mentioned lines.
Oops - you measured the advanced wheel and came up with a diameter of 65mm...but then showed it on-screen as 60mm: same as the easy 🤓
Picky picky
Came to say the same thing. An easy mistake and an easy fix 🙂
Thanks all for watching so closely! Whoops!
The advance roller wheel makes rattle sounds which is pretty annoying
Width is more important 😂
Ughh bushings... The point of the ez wheels are the bearings... I would get rid of the advance roller wheels
We really liked the Advance roller wheels until we realised, so still can’t beat the Eazy wheels! Thank you for watching!
Are there any engineers working for Brompton or just marketing and sales promoting nonsense?
We think that the food thing with the Brompton changes are that they are tried and tested and introduced slowly. So if you compare an old classic to a new bike there are significant changes, just that they have not all happened at once! Mind you the P Line does have an entirely new back end! So I guess this shows the significant innovation you are looking for.