Really great, nice to see the speeds and what to look out for. A video of the Mach Loop with commentary on the features and waypoints, taking off and recovering to Valley would be great.
Your tutorials are brilliant. Your delivery is perfect, providing just the precise information needed. Thank you, this is the channel all MSFS users should be watching and learning from.
Fascinating to hear your self commentary, a technique also used by advanced motorcylists. It focuses the attention, ingrains the habit and cements the skills. As a management trainer in defence (and who was Hawk Project manager at Warton for 5 years) I applaud your instruction. Absolutely top drawer, thank you from this flight sim novice.
Fantastic thanks for sharing I was an engineer on the hawk at Scampton in the 80s and in the late 90s i worked for the uae airforce in the mk63 and mk102 hawk ,super aircraft Regards Dave from Scotland
@@cgaviator yeah these days the aircraft are all computer operated ,flyby wire etc . Im now a caa licenced aircraft engineer type rated on 6 passenger aircraft ,each type course lasts about a month ,not like the old days . By the way i can honestly say that your you tube clips are amazing Thanks Dave from Scotland
I stumbled across your channel by accident and thought I'd watch a couple of videos. You've got a sub from me. Very clear and concise and nice to see how to fly the Hawk properly. 👍
Great video. The first thing I did with the Hawk was aerobatics over the Duxford Airshow scenery. Not as disciplined as yours but now I know how to do it properly. I do like the smoke on the hawk, coming out of a loop and flying through your smoke is great fun!
I was tempted by smoke but figured I’d do a routine sometime view from outside. The smoke could be a little more realistic in how it dissipates but that’s me being very particular! 😅
Excellent video - my old man was an instructor on the hawk also and i grew up watching these jets go in and out of RAF valley so it's amazing to see how to fly them properly!
Perfect vid for me just what I was literally just looking for. currently using Airshow assistant with the hawk for a full red arrow formation show. But this vid is perfect for me right now as I am learning from you how to actually do these manoeuvres correctly (first thought the jet felt a bit off, but no just me lol) refine my skills with your help your amazing Chris thank you so much! (Just started this bird up from cold with your help tonight too, my smile was golden!)
Brilliantly done! Interestingly I always do military circuits with a 45 degree bank into finals all the way round at 130 knots, but then I used to watch the F3s doing that at EGXC - different airplane altogether so higher airspeed but I think the method must have rubbed off on me :) Great aerobatics instruction, look forward to the next video.
Thank you! Tornados need about 180kt final, much heavier beast! 👍🏻 I should have checked more because it’s not outwardly advertise, but are you gents the master minds behind this aircraft?
Amazing content thank you! I have consumed so much YT MSFS 2020/SIM content over the last year or so and yours is up there with the very best I have seen along with Tim @ FJP and flightdeck2sim. I was lucky enough to witness refuelling Tornados from a VC10 during Op Jural and it's a memory that will never leave me, truly awe-inspiring!!! Gives me goose bumps just thinking about it lol! Please keep content like this coming, subbed!!
Really enjoying these - thanks for making them. Had a flight in a Hawk once during a fighter evasion sortie versus 2 Chinooks…have never felt as sick in all my life! Great little aircraft and can’t wait to get this when it comes to Xbox too. Keep up the good work
Excellent. First time I’ve heard a commentary that includes all those small but important details like 5 degrees nose up, entry speeds etc. I will try this on msfs but will appreciate airshow even more with these insider insights. Thanks for taking the time to do this.
Great video!....Subscribed.....now I have to start up the old PC and get to work on my Aeros! The Hawk is amazing, I fly lots of warbirds in real life but just the old WWII types, never got to fly that jet!
@@cgaviator believe it or not the Harvard! Most challenging one to fly and I’ve flown just about every version, T6, SNJ-5…I love the Stearman and the Chipmunks, P-51. The Nanchang CJ-6 is also a joy to fly. They are all great and it’s truly an honour and a privilege to fly them
@@cgaviator indeed you should! You will fall in love with the chipmunk! That is after you grow a third set of hands to handle the taxi 😉😉. It’s the kind of airplane that you wear! Pure joy
Great! I am going to do this right now! Although I am still struggling with my controls setup. For instance the rudder … when taxiing it steers like a madman, but during takeoff it doesn’t do what I want as if there’s a speed dependent rudder pressure reducer or something. I’ll read up on this first.
Great videos, I love it. The cleanliness and the precision are a joy to watch. Like your Mach Loop video, this is fantastic. May I ask if you ever tried flying with a VR headset?
Again another excellent and informative video with much improved audio! It would be good to hear more about your background and what youre doing now my guess is without a doubt Ex-RAF but no longer in the UK, it would be great to hear the story of how you became such an excellent pilot These videos really are special and 300 subscribers in only 12 videos really is a special achievement, Well done
Another great video, loved the instructional parts - that's what's really missing from a lot of sim videos. Audio levels are great now too, appreciate the 60fps also! Seems the encoding quality feels a little lower than previous tho, I see your bitrate is fine so maybe there are some other encoding options that might help. Not sure what editor you're using tho
Thanks for the feedback again, I’m slowly getting there! Switched to Davinci Resolve, first time using. I’m working the system hard with the ultra settings and recording so perhaps that’s something to do with it. I’ll keep tweaking!
@@cgaviator Ah, I think my replies are being withheld as I posted a link to a screen shot of my Resolve export settings. They're probably in your Dashboard > Comments > Held For Review section.
Have you tried knife edge? It exposes the flight model of MSFS quite badly. Roll the hawk on it's side, and impart some rudder to hold the nose up - it causes the simulator to tumble the aircraft completely randomly after a specific level of rudder deflection.
This is the best tutorial I love watching your video's. I have downloaded some of your flight plans which are amazing, what joy stick do you use. I use the warthog which is amazing flight stick.
Very good observation. Yes I have dampened the movement around center as well as increasing look up so I can see behind during loops etc. I’ll try and remember to post it on my website this weekend.
This was great and learned a lot, many thanks I always seem to be fighting with the trim though - in your opinion is the trim the same in the real Hawk?
Thanks! The limitations of the base sim I think make the flight dynamics twitchy. But big picture, it’s flies low level like it should, and the pitch/power/airspeed combinations have been working ok it’s certainly once of the more authentic models in the sim so far.
Excellent! Can you please comment my tests on MSFS Hawk. Trying to fly at or over normal envelope, It seems that JF Hawk refuse to fly high AOA with high drag. Example: Pulling max 9 G turn at 350 kts it is able to fly several 360 turns, then dropping down to a stable 200 kts and 4G turn with no stall. Is this correct, or Asobo limitation? (My only experience to compare is DCS fighters). In future videos , could you please demonstrate Hammerhead? Thank you both for your videos and Just Flight for the Hawk.
First I would say that you’ve overstressed the aircraft. Max g is +7.2g. Generally crews will train to max rate fight at +6.9g. It will bless speed if maintained. I’ll try the max performance tonight if I get a chance
I do dabble know in DCS but I find it much harder just to load up and have fun. In MSFS I can explore familiar areas and all the key bindings are the same for each aircraft.
Nice vid, good parameters and demo. Patter very CFS😁. As a point of accuracy, the RAFAT jet threshold speed didn’t start with the clean 110kts plus 1kt per 100 kgs of fuel. It should be the 115 kts (for the gun (smoke pod)) plus the fuel. In reality a 125 kts blanket speed was often used (wake turbulence). Didn’t seem to mess up the arrival.
Grateful for your time making these hawk videos. I find my hawk to have a very twitchy and some times over accelerated roll. Is this true to real life? Have you found the same with the same version
Roll rates in these swept wing jets is significant, true to real life! Flying the real one with finesse takes smooth inputs. You wouldn’t use max stick deflection to roll it into turns. Also depends on the controller you’re using.
@@BANDIT_NOOB trouble with joysticks is they’re generally short throw. Not much movement required for large input. I have an extension to my warthog stick and it makes a bit difference
Love these videos. Just purchased the hawk on Xbox and it doesn’t perform anywhere near like the PC version. Rolls like and a380 and nothing like this video. Gutted!
@@cgaviator please let me know if you figure anything out with it. Most noticeable difference is the agility of the aircraft is really sluggish and it struggles to hold altitude. It’s constantly pulling up and the trim function doesn’t seem to correct it.
@@scoobisam2008 Yeah, I've reported it plenty to the devs. The flight dynamics have suffered over the years with MSFS updates. At least that's how I understand it. I hope they update it and make it agile again. I believe that's what's happened. Presume you're using the latest version?
@@cgaviator yeah I only downloaded it earlier this week so all up to date. Really gutted it wasn’t as expected, especially after spending $50 on it lol! I really hope they correct it, my fear is they will invest time and energy into something for the new 2024 release in November now and this will be a thing of the past.
@@scoobisam2008I have the same issue, this fix might work for you but if you go to assistance options then turn off ‘assisted controller sensitivity’ that might make it a bit better 😉
Research the official requirements, meet or exceed them, practice your interview technique and put that application in!!! I'm thinking of doing a video on just this subject. That's a ways away for now.
Does the Hawk have an attitude hold flight mode? As in, can you just use the joystick to point the nose in a certain direction and the aircraft computer just holds that attitude?
Shame, that would be awesome. Love the T2's shape! Sadly I think it would be better suited to DCS as MSFS is a bit limited when it comes to in depth MFD/systems etc. Fingers crossed!
Nice video, I’m surprised to find I’ve been doing these Maneuverers about right (speed / G / technique) but this will refine things somewhat. Question. I’ve tried barrel rolls in the Hawk, seem to pull a lot of G’s doing this, they are not as easy to pull off as other aircraft, any tips?
Yes! I'll be including the barrel roll in my next aero video. Tricky to explain by text. And my way is not the only way, all depends on altitude and aircraft fuel weight.
I believe there’s been a lot of updates with the flight model. It may be that they dialled back the roll rate to minimise the uncontrollable snap or wobble. This is just my speculation as I’ve not had chance to try it. When you roll, make sure you neutralise pitch as that can slow it down.
Can you say why the JF "T1" does not have a MM (Moving Map) in a right DDI position and a HSI on the left DDI? There is then a MFD center position, duplicated in rear cockpit. The cockpit layout is not current RAF T1 standard. Additionally, no TACAN's are functional in MSFS, making radio navigation impossible using TACAN.
Are you confusing T1 and T2 perhaps? T1 has no digital displays other than the optional GPS. And yes, frustrating about Tacan. Better make it a VOR approach!
How do you keep level when inverted please? I'm having difficulty with this plane that when inverted the nose drops even with full stick forward? Using Hotas 1 stick.
If you’re too slow it won’t hold. Try 300kt. Also check your trim, if you’ve accidentally trimmed ‘up’ it’ll hurt you when you’re upside down potentially.
Nice aircraft, but the elevator seems to always be pitching up, even when inverted! Does the elevator actually move with stick input on this Just Flight model or is that a bug? Also noticed that the ailerons don't move during rolls either ...
I am having trouble with pulling loops and hard turns, as soon as I pull up the Hawk kind of bounces and then it starts to pull, same with hard turning, as soon as I turn hard it bounces and then turns. Yours is smooth, any ideas?
Yup, don’t pull hard! 👍🏻 You’re likely G stalling the aircraft which is to say that you run out of lift, you get heavy buffet (the nose bounces). Try keeping an eye on the g meter and keeping your manoeuvres to 4g. Hope that helps
Thanks for that, I tried to do this but my artificial horizon goes awol (flag pops out) and the generators fail. This happens any time I try manoeuvres, any idea what I am doing wrong please?
It happens to me as well but I haven’t had chance to fault find. I believe that would happen if you have a HOTAS switch bound to relight. Check your bindings. You can easily reset it by pressing the electrics reset buttons
@@cgaviator sorted it. It seems to happen if I throttle back to less than 80%. To correct it I press the two inverter buttons for 1&2 inverter and the generator button at the bottom. The buttons I mean are vertical to the left of your left knee. The first buttons you come to on the same panel as the gear n flaps. Worked for me every time tonight.
Hawk will be coming to Xbox soon. I believe JF are focusing on a few others first. I enjoy aeros most in high performance prop aircraft such as PC-21 (by Iris). AzurPoly TB30 while less powerful also good fun. If I had to check another jet then the M346 by indiafoxtecho though MSFS FBW simulation can cause some interesting side effects at low speed. The Griffin is a lot of fun to handle and looks great. And the CS Sim typhoon is currently the king of alpha! Lots to choose from!
Ok thanks! I see they’ve added the top Mach f22 and a new a10 so I’m probably going to get them soon but I had no clue they were working on getting the hawk to console.
Just a quick question when I fly the hawk in mfs the plane does not react that quick for me when I want to role there aircraft in verged meaning that when I do it my heading is not where I want it to be
Should have used the smoke for a more spectacular result. This aircraft has to be flown in VR it will blow you away. There is some amazing free scenery for RAF Valley available that i use.
I’ve tried the smoke effects and they’re not particularly realistic in how they dissipate. You may be able to tell me how to assign smoke on to a control input?
@@cgaviator You choose the Hawk that has the smoke panel upper left select the switch and choose a colour. In VR this is spectacular as you can see how accurate your loop was when you reconnect with the smoke on completion.
@@cgaviator If I do them at anything below 300 feet I’m in the runway picking cockpit glass out of my face! I’ve even tried setting the controller to plus 100 on the sensitivity. I WILL get to the bottom of this
Don't you just hate he way he is always lined up perfectly over the runway. Excellent!
Lol, I should release an out-takes video! Haha! But I do enjoy throwing it around. Treat it nicely and it'll do as you ask :D
This is probably the best tutorial series to date for MSFS. Top work and thank you for these helpful videos so we can get the most out our Hawks 😀
Wow, thank you for your kind words, means a lot and keeps me motivated!
a great tutorial for any sim, finally a pilot that knows what he is doing and is good to explain it, very very good, and many many thanks for no music
Much appreciated, thank you 🙏🏻
Can I second the point regarding no music. Amazing videos, excellent explanation, clear concise with no unnecessary bells and whistles
I know nothing about aircraft, but I am enjoying your videos enormously. Many thanks for the channel!
Great to hear! Thanks 🙏🏻
I live 2 miles from scampton and I'm also a pilot. Bloody love this mate.
Awesome, thanks 👍🏻👍🏻
Really great, nice to see the speeds and what to look out for. A video of the Mach Loop with commentary on the features and waypoints, taking off and recovering to Valley would be great.
Thank you! Mach loop In the works, perhaps at the weekend 👍🏻👍🏻
Looking forward to it. Great channel.
Your tutorials are brilliant. Your delivery is perfect, providing just the precise information needed. Thank you, this is the channel all MSFS users should be watching and learning from.
Thank you for taking the time to say, very kind. Hopefully my production value keeps improving with practice.
Fascinating to hear your self commentary, a technique also used by advanced motorcylists. It focuses the attention, ingrains the habit and cements the skills.
As a management trainer in defence (and who was Hawk Project manager at Warton for 5 years) I applaud your instruction. Absolutely top drawer, thank you from this flight sim novice.
That’s very kind, thank you
Wow. I think if you keep practising you'll get quite good at this!! WOW again and many thanks. This is the place to learn.........
Thanks, looking forward to putting some thoughts into the next video this weekend!
Fantastic thanks for sharing
I was an engineer on the hawk at Scampton in the 80s and in the late 90s i worked for the uae airforce in the mk63 and mk102 hawk ,super aircraft
Regards
Dave from Scotland
Thanks for commenting 👍🏻 Must have been nice having a relatively simple aircraft to maintain. Not like these days!
@@cgaviator yeah these days the aircraft are all computer operated ,flyby wire etc .
Im now a caa licenced aircraft engineer type rated on 6 passenger aircraft ,each type course lasts about a month ,not like the old days .
By the way i can honestly say that your you tube clips are amazing
Thanks
Dave from Scotland
@@davidmuir6849 thank you, very kind of you to say! I appreciate the modern tech, but I enjoy using the old stuff!
Another nice vid Chris. Well done
Thanks matey!
Finally a real hawke pilot! I really hope to see more videos and tutorials on this bird. Excellent Channel!
Thank you! 👍🏻
I stumbled across your channel by accident and thought I'd watch a couple of videos. You've got a sub from me. Very clear and concise and nice to see how to fly the Hawk properly. 👍
Thank you for taking the time to comment. Much appreciated 👍🏻
Thanks for the video, it's clear you are a professional instructor spot on.
Thank you, very kind!
Really great video, thanks for this! You make it look so easy!
Thanks! Many years of practice!
Like so many things in this world - when you watch an expert, it looks like it’s a piece of cake. Any fool could do it
That is honestly the best flying on a sim I have seen, as well as the best video on Aeros I have watched. Outstanding work.
Thank you for taking the time to say, very much appreciated!
@@cgaviator quick Q: how much rudder are needing to use for the manoeuvres?
@@rutchiemctavish zero! For slow rolls then you can use ‘top’ rudder. More of that next time
@@cgaviator great! Look forward to that. Thanks V much for the info!
Great stuff and plenty for me to work on in VR!!! Thanks!
More to come tomorrow! 👍🏻
Great video. The first thing I did with the Hawk was aerobatics over the Duxford Airshow scenery. Not as disciplined as yours but now I know how to do it properly. I do like the smoke on the hawk, coming out of a loop and flying through your smoke is great fun!
I was tempted by smoke but figured I’d do a routine sometime view from outside. The smoke could be a little more realistic in how it dissipates but that’s me being very particular! 😅
Excellent video - my old man was an instructor on the hawk also and i grew up watching these jets go in and out of RAF valley so it's amazing to see how to fly them properly!
Do you know what year he instructed?
@@cgaviator 2003 - 2009 but he spent some time with the ton in the middle of that
Perfect vid for me just what I was literally just looking for. currently using Airshow assistant with the hawk for a full red arrow formation show. But this vid is perfect for me right now as I am learning from you how to actually do these manoeuvres correctly (first thought the jet felt a bit off, but no just me lol) refine my skills with your help your amazing Chris thank you so much! (Just started this bird up from cold with your help tonight too, my smile was golden!)
Appreciate the comment, thanks
Fabulous video. So much information delivered perfectly. Thank you. Right, time to go practice practice practice!
Very kind words, thank you!
Brilliantly done! Interestingly I always do military circuits with a 45 degree bank into finals all the way round at 130 knots, but then I used to watch the F3s doing that at EGXC - different airplane altogether so higher airspeed but I think the method must have rubbed off on me :) Great aerobatics instruction, look forward to the next video.
Thank you! Tornados need about 180kt final, much heavier beast! 👍🏻 I should have checked more because it’s not outwardly advertise, but are you gents the master minds behind this aircraft?
@@cgaviator The Hawk is by Just Flight's in-house team, it's not one of ours. They tend to head into more systems detail than I do.
@@DCDesignsMSFS gotcha, wanted to make sure credit was where credit’s due. Can’t wait for your next release!
Amazing content thank you! I have consumed so much YT MSFS 2020/SIM content over the last year or so and yours is up there with the very best I have seen along with Tim @ FJP and flightdeck2sim. I was lucky enough to witness refuelling Tornados from a VC10 during Op Jural and it's a memory that will never leave me, truly awe-inspiring!!! Gives me goose bumps just thinking about it lol! Please keep content like this coming, subbed!!
Thanks for taking the time to comment. Greatly appreciated and keeps me motivated. It would be awesome if JF converted their Tornado to MSFS!
@@cgaviator Here here on the Tornado conversion. Don't think I'd fly anything else if they released it 😍
This is a well produced video. I’m looking forward to flying this bird.
Thank you 🙏🏻
Really enjoying these - thanks for making them. Had a flight in a Hawk once during a fighter evasion sortie versus 2 Chinooks…have never felt as sick in all my life! Great little aircraft and can’t wait to get this when it comes to Xbox too. Keep up the good work
Thanks! Sounds like a fun sortie! Hopefully early next year it’ll appear on Xbox.
Excellent. First time I’ve heard a commentary that includes all those small but important details like 5 degrees nose up, entry speeds etc. I will try this on msfs but will appreciate airshow even more with these insider insights. Thanks for taking the time to do this.
Thank you 🙏🏻
Great precision in your flight... You flight in VR i guess the movement of you head is so natural... thanks!
Track ir presently but I’ll be trying out my VR later this week
@@cgaviator great... hope go to VR one day to...
Fabulous video, so much useful information. Thanks for all your work putting this video together.
A pleasure!
Amazing. Thank you. Brilliant content and very watchable. Off to practice now!!
Thank you! Enjoy!
Great video! I’m loving the new J F Hawk and also your video series too! Keep up the great content!
Great motivation, thank you!
Brilliant series! Thanks! Such a great add-on for MSFS
Very kind, thank you!
nice! Thanks for passing your knowledge :)
No trouble, more to come!
Another excellent tutorial - thank you!
Thanks again!
Fantastic Display one of the best Flight Sim videos I've saw. It seems MSFS 2020 has good flight dynamics, liked and subscribed
Very kind of you to say. The dynamics are still a little bit limited by the game engine but I think it'll get better.
Can't add anything more that has already been said in the comments below 😀👍
Excellent and well done!
Thank you for taking the time to comment! 🙏🏻
Useful video and enjoyable to watch. I’d like to see tutorials on more advanced aerobatics in the Hawk and the Grob. Anyway, thanks for your work.
Certainly in the todo list! And I’ll have to revisit the grob soon!
Certainly in the todo list! And I’ll have to revisit the grob soon!
I attended Welton (William Farr) secondary school and would always see the Red Arrows fly from RAF Scampton
That must have been ace!
These tutorials really are something else. Thank you so much and please keep them coming!! 😁
thank you, and will do!
That was great, thank you for the effort put in to making these.
No trouble, I love to teach!
Great video!....Subscribed.....now I have to start up the old PC and get to work on my Aeros! The Hawk is amazing, I fly lots of warbirds in real life but just the old WWII types, never got to fly that jet!
Very jealous! Aircraft have to feature in my retirement, definitely the old warbirds! Which is your favourite to fly real life?
@@cgaviator believe it or not the Harvard! Most challenging one to fly and I’ve flown just about every version, T6, SNJ-5…I love the Stearman and the Chipmunks, P-51. The Nanchang CJ-6 is also a joy to fly. They are all great and it’s truly an honour and a privilege to fly them
@@340ACP wow! I have a friend with a Chipmunk and a Yak. Need to bug him at some point!
@@cgaviator indeed you should! You will fall in love with the chipmunk! That is after you grow a third set of hands to handle the taxi 😉😉. It’s the kind of airplane that you wear! Pure joy
@@340ACP haha, I bet. I was part way through modelling a chipmunk for MSFS but soon realised it would take me many years!
Top video! Earned a subscriber 👍
Good stuff, welcome aboard!
Great! I am going to do this right now!
Although I am still struggling with my controls setup. For instance the rudder … when taxiing it steers like a madman, but during takeoff it doesn’t do what I want as if there’s a speed dependent rudder pressure reducer or something. I’ll read up on this first.
Fabulous video! Let’s get some red smoke on next time 🤪🥰
The red smoke is in the making!
Flawless and very enjoyable!, 🍻
So precise! Joy to watch...
Kind words, thank you!
Great videos, I love it. The cleanliness and the precision are a joy to watch. Like your Mach Loop video, this is fantastic. May I ask if you ever tried flying with a VR headset?
I've not yet flown VR with the Hawk. I really should! I'll dust off the headset and give it a whirl!
smart camera work, sexy scenery and graphics and outstanding performance on those aerobatics
Thank you kindly!
Again another excellent and informative video with much improved audio! It would be good to hear more about your background and what youre doing now my guess is without a doubt Ex-RAF but no longer in the UK, it would be great to hear the story of how you became such an excellent pilot
These videos really are special and 300 subscribers in only 12 videos really is a special achievement, Well done
Thank you, that’s very kind! You’re half right! Not ex! I plan to cover some of that in future. But the day job does keep me busy!
Another great video, loved the instructional parts - that's what's really missing from a lot of sim videos.
Audio levels are great now too, appreciate the 60fps also! Seems the encoding quality feels a little lower than previous tho, I see your bitrate is fine so maybe there are some other encoding options that might help. Not sure what editor you're using tho
Thanks for the feedback again, I’m slowly getting there! Switched to Davinci Resolve, first time using. I’m working the system hard with the ultra settings and recording so perhaps that’s something to do with it. I’ll keep tweaking!
@@cgaviator Ah, I think my replies are being withheld as I posted a link to a screen shot of my Resolve export settings. They're probably in your Dashboard > Comments > Held For Review section.
@@LCTRgames nope, I’m afraid not, try again but without the .com. Thanks for helping
@@cgaviator imgur /a/9zA7qjJ Hopefully one of these goes through
@@LCTRgames got it, thank! Will check it out tomorrow. Ciao
Very interesting and useful - thanks
No trouble, thanks 🙏🏻
Detailing is amazing 👍
Agreed!
Have you tried knife edge? It exposes the flight model of MSFS quite badly. Roll the hawk on it's side, and impart some rudder to hold the nose up - it causes the simulator to tumble the aircraft completely randomly after a specific level of rudder deflection.
Yeah, I was going to produce a spinning video but the MSFS dynamics are awful! Fingers crossed for the future!
Keep makin’ ‘em!
Got some in the pipeline. Just need to find the time! lol
This is the best tutorial I love watching your video's. I have downloaded some of your flight plans which are amazing, what joy stick do you use. I use the warthog which is amazing flight stick.
Yup, I have the warthog also. But I’ve added a 10cm extension to it. Makes all the difference! Thanks and Merry Christmas!
@@cgaviator same to you merry Christmas and all the best.
Superb, love it
Thanks 👍🏻
That was fantastic.
Thank you 🙏🏻
Great video tutorial. I would love to know a bit more about "back pressure" as I'm not sure what you are referring to.
Good point, back pressure is the amount of pressure you're exerting on the stick in the pitch up sense.
That was fun and enlightening.
Thanks 🙏🏻
Nice vid as always Sir. Did you ever do display flying during your time in the Force?
Thanks for sharing 👍🏻
I wish! Sadly the stars didn’t align. Though I was frequently part of the 9-ship Tucano demo but that was only ever local to Linton.
@@cgaviator That's still something I'd be very proud to do. Nice one 🙂
Fantastic!
Really enjoyed this video Chris. Is there any chance you can do similar aerobatics tutorials for the PC 21?
I have done just that! Check out other videos on my channel. Did one in a blue PC21
@@cgaviator Thank you so much! I will...
Yet another great video
Thanks 🙏🏻
That was excellent. Must try to do your routine on my next flight. Thank you. How long were you on the Hawk in real life?
Sadly not long. It was part of my training onto bigger things. I was close to going back to it recently but other opportunities opened up!
Love it !
OMG THIS WAS SO DOPE
Thanks 👍🏻
I’m really enjoying this series, thank you. Do you have a profile for trackir 5 as the movement around the null zone is very smooth?
Very good observation. Yes I have dampened the movement around center as well as increasing look up so I can see behind during loops etc. I’ll try and remember to post it on my website this weekend.
Keep them coming 👌
Will do!
Great tutorial.❤
Thanks 🙏🏻
Very nice indeed.
Thanks
Bravo !
This was great and learned a lot, many thanks I always seem to be fighting with the trim though - in your opinion is the trim the same in the real Hawk?
There’s always going to be some differences. But using my normal technique the aircraft trims ok. Maybe I’ll do a micro video that covers trimming!
@@cgaviator Oh that would be helpful thanks :)
Great Thanks.
Thank you 🙏🏻
So if youve flown the real hawk, how does this compare to the real thing? Great vid btw
Thanks! The limitations of the base sim I think make the flight dynamics twitchy. But big picture, it’s flies low level like it should, and the pitch/power/airspeed combinations have been working ok it’s certainly once of the more authentic models in the sim so far.
Excellent!
Can you please comment my tests on MSFS Hawk.
Trying to fly at or over normal envelope, It seems that JF Hawk refuse to fly high AOA with high drag. Example: Pulling max 9 G turn at 350 kts it is able to fly several 360 turns, then dropping down to a stable 200 kts and 4G turn with no stall. Is this correct, or Asobo limitation? (My only experience to compare is DCS fighters).
In future videos , could you please demonstrate Hammerhead?
Thank you both for your videos and Just Flight for the Hawk.
First I would say that you’ve overstressed the aircraft. Max g is +7.2g. Generally crews will train to max rate fight at +6.9g. It will bless speed if maintained. I’ll try the max performance tonight if I get a chance
Awesome videos but do u fly in DCS and if you do what are your thoughts?
I do dabble know in DCS but I find it much harder just to load up and have fun. In MSFS I can explore familiar areas and all the key bindings are the same for each aircraft.
Nice vid, good parameters and demo. Patter very CFS😁. As a point of accuracy, the RAFAT jet threshold speed didn’t start with the clean 110kts plus 1kt per 100 kgs of fuel. It should be the 115 kts (for the gun (smoke pod)) plus the fuel. In reality a 125 kts blanket speed was often used (wake turbulence). Didn’t seem to mess up the arrival.
cool, thanks! you seem very knowledgeable about it...??? Happy New Year!
@@cgaviator OC Advanced Sqn CFS 93-96. Wg Cdr RAFAT 2001-5.😁
Grateful for your time making these hawk videos. I find my hawk to have a very twitchy and some times over accelerated roll. Is this true to real life? Have you found the same with the same version
Roll rates in these swept wing jets is significant, true to real life! Flying the real one with finesse takes smooth inputs. You wouldn’t use max stick deflection to roll it into turns. Also depends on the controller you’re using.
@@cgaviator I'm using the t16000m. And yeah I'm just trying to be more subtle with the movements lol
Thanks
@@BANDIT_NOOB trouble with joysticks is they’re generally short throw. Not much movement required for large input. I have an extension to my warthog stick and it makes a bit difference
@@cgaviator yeah I've came to realise that with the likes of the mk9 spit in dcs
That was very enjoyable! You should fly for a living 😃
Haha, thanks! :D
Beautiful. Did you land with the flaps
I hope so! 😅
Love these videos. Just purchased the hawk on Xbox and it doesn’t perform anywhere near like the PC version. Rolls like and a380 and nothing like this video. Gutted!
That’s a real shame! I’ll have to take a second look. It’s been a while.
@@cgaviator please let me know if you figure anything out with it. Most noticeable difference is the agility of the aircraft is really sluggish and it struggles to hold altitude. It’s constantly pulling up and the trim function doesn’t seem to correct it.
@@scoobisam2008 Yeah, I've reported it plenty to the devs. The flight dynamics have suffered over the years with MSFS updates. At least that's how I understand it. I hope they update it and make it agile again. I believe that's what's happened. Presume you're using the latest version?
@@cgaviator yeah I only downloaded it earlier this week so all up to date. Really gutted it wasn’t as expected, especially after spending $50 on it lol! I really hope they correct it, my fear is they will invest time and energy into something for the new 2024 release in November now and this will be a thing of the past.
@@scoobisam2008I have the same issue, this fix might work for you but if you go to assistance options then turn off ‘assisted controller sensitivity’ that might make it a bit better 😉
Any advice for aspiring jet pilots ?
Research the official requirements, meet or exceed them, practice your interview technique and put that application in!!! I'm thinking of doing a video on just this subject. That's a ways away for now.
@@cgaviator Thank you sir. Will be looking out for that video
Does the Hawk have an attitude hold flight mode? As in, can you just use the joystick to point the nose in a certain direction and the aircraft computer just holds that attitude?
The T1 had no AP at all. It’s just a feature in this model to make long range cruising more convenient for simmers
Really could do with a T2 Hawk, but I hear that BAe are still hot on the IP for that one.
Shame, that would be awesome. Love the T2's shape! Sadly I think it would be better suited to DCS as MSFS is a bit limited when it comes to in depth MFD/systems etc. Fingers crossed!
Nice video, I’m surprised to find I’ve been doing these Maneuverers about right (speed / G / technique) but this will refine things somewhat. Question. I’ve tried barrel rolls in the Hawk, seem to pull a lot of G’s doing this, they are not as easy to pull off as other aircraft, any tips?
Yes! I'll be including the barrel roll in my next aero video. Tricky to explain by text. And my way is not the only way, all depends on altitude and aircraft fuel weight.
Finally just got this on xbox the roll rate on xbox doesn't seem as fast as your have i missed something cockpit wise
I believe there’s been a lot of updates with the flight model. It may be that they dialled back the roll rate to minimise the uncontrollable snap or wobble. This is just my speculation as I’ve not had chance to try it. When you roll, make sure you neutralise pitch as that can slow it down.
@cgaviator found the issue "assisted controller sensitivity" was turned on. After turning off no more 10 sec roll rate 😅
Can you say why the JF "T1" does not have a MM (Moving Map) in a right DDI position and a HSI on the left DDI? There is then a MFD center position, duplicated in rear cockpit. The cockpit layout is not current RAF T1 standard. Additionally, no TACAN's are functional in MSFS, making radio navigation impossible using TACAN.
Are you confusing T1 and T2 perhaps? T1 has no digital displays other than the optional GPS. And yes, frustrating about Tacan. Better make it a VOR approach!
How do you keep level when inverted please? I'm having difficulty with this plane that when inverted the nose drops even with full stick forward? Using Hotas 1 stick.
If you’re too slow it won’t hold. Try 300kt. Also check your trim, if you’ve accidentally trimmed ‘up’ it’ll hurt you when you’re upside down potentially.
@@cgaviator Ok many thanks I'll try at 300kts see how I get on. I do think the trim is causing me an issue.
Nice aircraft, but the elevator seems to always be pitching up, even when inverted! Does the elevator actually move with stick input on this Just Flight model or is that a bug? Also noticed that the ailerons don't move during rolls either ...
Sorry for the late reply, I've honestly not looked too closely! It appears to move normally. I'll keep an eye out
I am having trouble with pulling loops and hard turns, as soon as I pull up the Hawk kind of bounces and then it starts to pull, same with hard turning, as soon as I turn hard it bounces and then turns. Yours is smooth, any ideas?
Yup, don’t pull hard! 👍🏻 You’re likely G stalling the aircraft which is to say that you run out of lift, you get heavy buffet (the nose bounces). Try keeping an eye on the g meter and keeping your manoeuvres to 4g. Hope that helps
Thanks for that, I tried to do this but my artificial horizon goes awol (flag pops out) and the generators fail. This happens any time I try manoeuvres, any idea what I am doing wrong please?
It happens to me as well but I haven’t had chance to fault find. I believe that would happen if you have a HOTAS switch bound to relight. Check your bindings. You can easily reset it by pressing the electrics reset buttons
@@cgaviator sorted it. It seems to happen if I throttle back to less than 80%. To correct it I press the two inverter buttons for 1&2 inverter and the generator button at the bottom. The buttons I mean are vertical to the left of your left knee. The first buttons you come to on the same panel as the gear n flaps. Worked for me every time tonight.
@@williamstilgoe61 yes, that’s what I was poorly explaining lol, but they shouldn’t trip off in the first place.
Are you a former student of Tim Davies aka Fast Jet Performance?
No, I don’t think we ever crossed paths
@@cgaviator th-cam.com/users/FastJetPerformance
You keep looking for the light buffet - perhaps you should have a sandwich before you take off, then you won't be hungry midair.
😆 I’m looking for the G as well as cross checking speed and altitude parameters. 👍🏻
I play msfs on Xbox and I love the aerobatics in it, I’m wondering the best jet for aerobatics on console because the t1 hawk is pc only
Hawk will be coming to Xbox soon. I believe JF are focusing on a few others first. I enjoy aeros most in high performance prop aircraft such as PC-21 (by Iris). AzurPoly TB30 while less powerful also good fun. If I had to check another jet then the M346 by indiafoxtecho though MSFS FBW simulation can cause some interesting side effects at low speed. The Griffin is a lot of fun to handle and looks great. And the CS Sim typhoon is currently the king of alpha! Lots to choose from!
Ok thanks! I see they’ve added the top Mach f22 and a new a10 so I’m probably going to get them soon but I had no clue they were working on getting the hawk to console.
@@goldenfalcon6702 all work in progress. I haven't tried the A10, may be an obscure version
Just a quick question when I fly the hawk in mfs the plane does not react that quick for me when I want to role there aircraft in verged meaning that when I do it my heading is not where I want it to be
Flight dynamics in the model have changed since this video. But make sure you’re on speed and not pulling too many gs perhaps
GG godlike
Thanks! You should watch the recent Virtual Hawk Solo videos 👍🏻
@@cgaviator yes sir, sure will do capt. Otw
Should have used the smoke for a more spectacular result. This aircraft has to be flown in VR it will blow you away. There is some amazing free scenery for RAF Valley available that i use.
What VR headset to use?
@@Turbogaggers123 The Oculas guest 2 it's the cheapest but does the job.
I’ve tried the smoke effects and they’re not particularly realistic in how they dissipate. You may be able to tell me how to assign smoke on to a control input?
@@cgaviator You choose the Hawk that has the smoke panel upper left select the switch and choose a colour. In VR this is spectacular as you can see how accurate your loop was when you reconnect with the smoke on completion.
@@Lonsome1223 but can you bind a key to start and stop smoke?
Seriously, my aileron rolls are 2.5 seconds slower from start to finish. 85 percent, 300 knots, 5 degree pitch up just before the roll
Perhaps check axis calibration. Ensure you’re applying max aileron. Are you doing them at medium level?
@@cgaviator If I do them at anything below 300 feet I’m in the runway picking cockpit glass out of my face!
I’ve even tried setting the controller to plus 100 on the sensitivity.
I WILL get to the bottom of this
@@lbrand2507 are you PC or Xbox?
@@cgaviator PC
@@lbrand2507 strange! Let me know if you figure it out
when i try to roll it rolls so slowly and falls out the sky help
Strange, what speed are you trying this at? Aim for 350-400kt and make sure you don’t have any sim ‘assists’ that may be getting in the way
My aileron roll looks slow motion compared to this
Nothing wrong with that unless you’re losing altitude at 200ft 🙃
@@cgaviator I must have a flight sim setting wrong. I’m doing the same manoeuvres. Awesome videos so far. Thanks
@@lbrand2507 thank you, appreciate it
Only one thing that bugs me atm it's the external pilots 3D I dislike the look
Oh, the view of the pilot body from outside? I guess it’s rare for those flying the model to actually see it but it could of course be better