So, I believe that this was quite unbalanced since not only did town outnumber coven and have lots of confirmed roles, the GA (who was actually me btw) had a very high chance of getting a town as their target, adding another vote to town. This game mode would be better, imo, if there was 1 less tp and more rts for evil claim space. Also, I don’t really have a new role but I do believe that this game should either buff the kinda useless roles (disg, necromancer, etc) or add in some new TS or TK. While there may not be a need for it, I just think that the coven expansion was really TI and TP heavy with new roles and there should be more TS and TKs to balance it out, but of course that’s just my opinion
Adding a Random Neutral would definitely be interesting in my opinion, gives options for any of the NK slots, maybe Survivor or Amnesiac, or even something like a Juggernaut or jester :D
@@sharpshot4321 you can't as far as I know, but if u want to get one, like just to see it, get some buddies or something and put like 10 Random neuts and a few town. After like 2-3 games I'm sure I'll have one by probability
When I read the title “VIP Without a VIP” I instantly knew this was the vip role list in the custom game mode just like you did before but it was lovers not vip. If your reading this skimm, click read more. The rivals video should be called.... Ik skimm is not gonna read this so I would like to say why you click “read more” when I told you not to? BUT IF THERE IS A CHANCE SKIMM READS THIS... The video should be called “Rivals Without Haters/Enemies?” (You pick which word you want from haters or enemies) I think that would be a great vid name
There's a role that I thought of that I think would be really cool although I haven't found the right name for it. I like Skinwalker, Bodysnatcher, or if you want to be simple you could just go for Impostor. Basically at night you pick someone and you steal their role. So if you target the Jailor you become the Jailor, and the old Jailor dies. You can do everything your new role can do (jail people, execute them, etc..) and then if you ever want to get a new role during the day you can "shed your role" and kill again that night.
I think a new role should be a town role called the Stat Buffer where you choose your target and give them a level of attack (If they're a TK) or a level of defense for everyone else. An alternative to this role for Mafia or Coven could be a Stats Stripper where you remove their attack or defense. *NOTE!* the name i came up with is not very creative if anyone else thinks of a more creative name reply to this comment with the name, thank you!
Even if Coven was completely outmatched here and had no claim space pretty much, I think it's fun. And it was better than normal VIP Mode in my opinion. Reason I say that is because in normal VIP Mode, you already have one instantly-confirmed town (the VIP) that all the town immediately know. In this mode, there IS no confirmed town, so really Coven has a slightly better chance of surviving. But, then downside (as some people have noted) is that Coven doesn't automatically win if they kill a certain person, so really they have to hope they can outlast town, and likely get Pirate and/or GA on their side. A LOT of luck would have to go into it. So, in a way...maybe it's not any better than normal VIP Mode after all? Either way, I still liked it.
8:12 Helen claims Doc, You have Trapper as own, God as BG claim before stoned, and Crusader as TP. No Room For Helen then right? Edit: Helen PM or BG claim false? Edit 2: Im stupid, I didnt realise Crusader had own place lol
I think a good role would be like a insane person Someone who randomly gets flipped to different teams and does something random for that team, and they get to decide which team to help. Also if they were in the mafia coven or any team that showed the names of the people in that team, the names would be hidden
I think you should go back to not including your signature in your will. It does still present an unfair advantage of you getting revived by retri by nature of who you are rather than your role (obviously not the case in this game, but definitely a good possibility for future games). Claiming after the game makes sense, and people can always confirm in the post-game screen anyway.
I feel the whispering alone makes this so much more unbalanced towards town than the normal VIP mode. You'd have to do a lot of replacing roles to balance this out, for which I'd recommend replacing a lot of the confirmed town slots with random town slots (or the subtypes, like replacing Sheriff with TI, etc.) Coven has a strong team setup already, Neutrals are mostly unaffected, there just needs to be more claim space.
without being vip it's too easy for town to win it. VIP is like trump card of coven and always gets atleast 1 TP away from other townies. Without VIP , it's pretty hard for coven to win it.
Yeah, this role list just doesn't work. It's an interesting idea but it would need SERIOUS tweaking to be balanced, which...kinda defeats the purpose of having a VIP without VIP role list :P
So Skimm Sorry For Interrupting But I have A Question. Every Time I Play Tos I go to copy my will and like 50% of the time it just deletes what part i tried to copy. I don't know what I am Doing wrong and was wondering if i can ask you. Every time i get voted up I am like oh no.
Bobby Thomas It could be because your will is too long and wont fit in the chat space. You can just copy and paste the rest of your will in after if this happens though
@@theitalianmexican1035 he was being cautious of CL who wasn't dead until after he started whispering to Elle. Vigi's need information to do their job but need to avoid being controlled. Kinda obvious why he did it
Town is ridiculously op in this. Take out a tp or even 2 tps
Town don’t have a Jailor though but yeah too many confirmed roles
"claim?"
"you first"
"I'm the person shooting you if you don't claim"
So, I believe that this was quite unbalanced since not only did town outnumber coven and have lots of confirmed roles, the GA (who was actually me btw) had a very high chance of getting a town as their target, adding another vote to town. This game mode would be better, imo, if there was 1 less tp and more rts for evil claim space.
Also, I don’t really have a new role but I do believe that this game should either buff the kinda useless roles (disg, necromancer, etc) or add in some new TS or TK. While there may not be a need for it, I just think that the coven expansion was really TI and TP heavy with new roles and there should be more TS and TKs to balance it out, but of course that’s just my opinion
Adding a Random Neutral would definitely be interesting in my opinion, gives options for any of the NK slots, maybe Survivor or Amnesiac, or even something like a Juggernaut or jester :D
Weefie imo necromancer is a rng role. It can be good if the right people are dead, also, it’s cool that you’ve been in a skimm video
Can you add a confirmed Jugg role? Cause I would love to see some games with a confirmed Jugg.
@@sharpshot4321 you can't as far as I know, but if u want to get one, like just to see it, get some buddies or something and put like 10 Random neuts and a few town. After like 2-3 games I'm sure I'll have one by probability
Jugg wins would be too easy and Jugg is quite powerfull
VIP... WITHOUT VIP?!?!? WHAT IS THIS NONESENSE!!!??? lol good video as always
It's also VIP WITH WHISPERING. It's driving me bonkers.
WAIT
A supreme leader!?
And poisoned!?
Yep, all acording to the danganronpa V3 lore so far
Lmao Nice catch
When I read the title “VIP Without a VIP” I instantly knew this was the vip role list in the custom game mode just like you did before but it was lovers not vip. If your reading this skimm, click read more. The rivals video should be called....
Ik skimm is not gonna read this so I would like to say why you click “read more” when I told you not to?
BUT IF THERE IS A CHANCE SKIMM READS THIS...
The video should be called “Rivals Without Haters/Enemies?” (You pick which word you want from haters or enemies) I think that would be a great vid name
There's a role that I thought of that I think would be really cool although I haven't found the right name for it. I like Skinwalker, Bodysnatcher, or if you want to be simple you could just go for Impostor. Basically at night you pick someone and you steal their role. So if you target the Jailor you become the Jailor, and the old Jailor dies. You can do everything your new role can do (jail people, execute them, etc..) and then if you ever want to get a new role during the day you can "shed your role" and kill again that night.
Whispering makes this very unlike VIP....
When I used to play Town of Salem a lot I always enjoyed vampire hunter because of the amount of fear you cause in the vampires.
I think a new role should be a town role called the Stat Buffer where you choose your target and give them a level of attack (If they're a TK) or a level of defense for everyone else.
An alternative to this role for Mafia or Coven could be a Stats Stripper where you remove their attack or defense.
*NOTE!* the name i came up with is not very creative if anyone else thinks of a more creative name reply to this comment with the name, thank you!
For the buffing role, perhaps Armourer/Armorer or Quartermaster? For the debuffing role, maybe something like Junker or Thief?
Even if Coven was completely outmatched here and had no claim space pretty much, I think it's fun. And it was better than normal VIP Mode in my opinion. Reason I say that is because in normal VIP Mode, you already have one instantly-confirmed town (the VIP) that all the town immediately know. In this mode, there IS no confirmed town, so really Coven has a slightly better chance of surviving. But, then downside (as some people have noted) is that Coven doesn't automatically win if they kill a certain person, so really they have to hope they can outlast town, and likely get Pirate and/or GA on their side. A LOT of luck would have to go into it. So, in a way...maybe it's not any better than normal VIP Mode after all? Either way, I still liked it.
8:12 Helen claims Doc, You have Trapper as own, God as BG claim before stoned, and Crusader as TP. No Room For Helen then right? Edit: Helen PM or BG claim false? Edit 2: Im stupid, I didnt realise Crusader had own place lol
Smart to tell town that elle claimed retri. I’ve played lots of games where someone gets information and doesn’t share it and ends up dying with it.
A person is stoned night one.
Skimm: IT could be a MEDIUM.
Me: Bruh
smh
My favorite to play as is vigi but my favorite town to watch is either medium or jail or. Watching a good sk though is the most satisfying thing ever
I think a good role would be like a insane person Someone who randomly gets flipped to different teams and does something random for that team, and they get to decide which team to help. Also if they were in the mafia coven or any team that showed the names of the people in that team, the names would be hidden
Amne and jugg are my personal favorites!!
smart move from your end to shout it out in chat before day ends that elle claimed ret, and you asked her to revive tracker
Careful of switching between chat and chat history, Skimm. You were pretty distracted and forgot Pirate was there multiple times. Good video, though!
You could get rid of the known crusader or trapper for a PB? A pb could make the game better, since town would have to worry about coven and pb!
I think you should go back to not including your signature in your will. It does still present an unfair advantage of you getting revived by retri by nature of who you are rather than your role (obviously not the case in this game, but definitely a good possibility for future games). Claiming after the game makes sense, and people can always confirm in the post-game screen anyway.
None Existent didn't push the Coven Leader AND voted inno, and you didn't shot him N3?
Ok, so I think lovers/vip are definitely overpowered and there’s absolutely no claim space
I like amne’s in game idk why
ive played a game with you the other day!! it was great with tht sk win hope we can play a game together again
I think you should make a game mode where it's GAs Vs Coven vs Maf vs some town
I feel the whispering alone makes this so much more unbalanced towards town than the normal VIP mode. You'd have to do a lot of replacing roles to balance this out, for which I'd recommend replacing a lot of the confirmed town slots with random town slots (or the subtypes, like replacing Sheriff with TI, etc.) Coven has a strong team setup already, Neutrals are mostly unaffected, there just needs to be more claim space.
You are the best!
I wonder... Could you do Rivals role list?
That really doesn't matter.
I forgot Rivals used to be a thing.
I understand why. Rivals was absolutely terrible because of its gimmick
Cover got crushed hard.
Adding Recommended Videos in Outro, Maybe...
9:18, Skimm votes himself :D
Play Arsonist in Ranked!
Do Skimm always forgot to put some recommended videos on his outros?
Have you ever come by my Sniper role suggestion on reddit? God check that one out
Skimm will u play throne of lies again?
i claim VIP
without being vip it's too easy for town to win it. VIP is like trump card of coven and always gets atleast 1 TP away from other townies. Without VIP , it's pretty hard for coven to win it.
I just think mafia/coven need more claiming space, ts roles are way too easy to confirm
i feel betrayed still... XD
Does it bother you when others claim to be you?
Yeah, this role list just doesn't work. It's an interesting idea but it would need SERIOUS tweaking to be balanced, which...kinda defeats the purpose of having a VIP without VIP role list :P
So Skimm Sorry For Interrupting But I have A Question. Every Time I Play Tos I go to copy my will and like 50% of the time it just deletes what part i tried to copy. I don't know what I am Doing wrong and was wondering if i can ask you. Every time i get voted up I am like oh no.
Press control before you press c and if you press x on accident you can just paste it
Do you hold or press control?
I usually hold, but the problems happens randomly.
@@bobbythomas3537 hold.
Bobby Thomas It could be because your will is too long and wont fit in the chat space. You can just copy and paste the rest of your will in after if this happens though
I feel like such a fucking noob. 90% of the time I have no fucking idea what is going on. How you know all these things dayum, im an idiot
Me ur big fan
"stay in your own lane"
"noOOoo, Elle, I think you're evil"
Coven is good m8
What is vip gamemode
So there a random vip and most of the town can see who the VIP is. But if vip dies then town losese instantly
@@josephbybee9757 thanks
will you come to me and my girlfriends wedding
What is the discord?
What’s vip?
a gamemode where there is a vip chosen, every town knows them and town must keep them alive. if vip dies town autoloses.
Is it me or this game mode feel way too easy for Town?
Hi
Uwuwu
I hate this gamemode
Third
Why would you ask people to claim as a VIGI but not claim to them when they ask? That’s just sus dude.
He did claim vigilante. he said he's attack them which only the vigilante can choose who they attack for town so ya...
Warcrafter4 He was doing this before he even claimed. He asked Elle and whoever was #1 their role
@@theitalianmexican1035 he was being cautious of CL who wasn't dead until after he started whispering to Elle. Vigi's need information to do their job but need to avoid being controlled. Kinda obvious why he did it
It's normal to ask for roles if target is silent, acting suspicious, not giving leads, not claiming early, voting bad, etc...