I really want to see a comparison between the Azurys and Hadenys with the 109 Pros. Especially the bass comparison between them would be interesting to see
Hey guys I have a question, do any of you feel "unbalanced" when a headphone only has a cable leaving one side? It makes me feel like something is wrong, it doesn't affect the sound (on most headphones at least) but it does bother me for some dumb reason. Looking for my people with stupid brains.
Thanks for all that you do Josh! I've been inching my way into this hobby for years now thanks to you and I'll never go back to normal headphones or gaming headsets. Can't thank you enough man!
I'm just thinking out loud here, but isn't how wide a headphone sounds or doesn't sound is that to do more with psychoacoustics and tuning, as I've heard some closed back headphones sound very open and wide/expansive and some open headphones sound closed in and in your head.
imo the design is the biggest influence, you could give it a "airy" tuning but it won't feel like an open back, pads and venting could help that feel closer though. I personally have a lot of issues with closed backs/in ears usually but got the the DCA E3 recently and it sounds and feels like an open back I love it.
@@chrisk3127 Yes definitely depends on the design of the headphones, Focal's closed back headphones like the Elegia, Celestee, Stellia have some sort of small venting port to let air through which in term gives them a more airy open sound, most budget headphones that I've tried don't have the best acoustics and give you that closed in your head sound, recently I've purchased some mid-tier and higher end closed back headphones which are better designed to sound more like an open back.
I was able to listen to these and make my test, the bass could be compared with the HD 8 DJ, precise, impactful, not as tight tho, the HD 8 outperforms in bass this ones, however I was pleased with the overall sound, mostly I bought these to listen to electronic music, nothing else
You know, I wish more reviewers would talk about replacement ear pads. Getting replacement pads for Focals are difficult especially if you're trying to target the same frequency as OEM pads.
Thanks for the review Josh! For the openback version, could you also assess the gaming performance (and maybe briefly compare it to Maxwell in that regard)?
Do these do really well with deep 808 sub bass in hip-hop while still retaining nice crispy high end? Would you recommend these for that or something else?
hey joshua,have been subbed for a while...and as usual youtubes algorhythm has kept you away for a while....great vid,i may try these out...would love to see you make a video anually regarding which headphones for which type of music...i.e. what to choose in your opinion for drum & bass,house,pop,etc would be good to get your opinion on which headphones suit which music
I've had the B&W p7 wireless since launch. I still love them but I'm now wanting an upgrade. I mostly listen to strong vocal/acoustic guitar centric music. I wonder how these compare
How do they compare to the Celestee? I’m looking for a good closed back headphone with good sound stage and bass. Something that would be great for movies or single player games while still being good for music. My current daily driver is the Audeze lcd-x. I love them but I want to find a good closed back headphone to go along with them.
I really like my celestee, I brought it used for 500 bucks on ebay as a closed back companion to the mg clears. It is a very enjoyable headphone that works with a wide range of music genres. It is a beast for rock and metal.
Thank you for the review! Younger people can hear higher frequencies that older people cannot. The younger have a tendency to prefer the the Dan Clark D3 to the Meze Liric II. Maybe that's why Courtney prefers Azurys to Meze Liric II.
Thank you Joshua. I own a set of Bose QC headsets, now interested in moving up somewhat and interested in a more immersive music listening experience. I am a fan of classical and also folk/bluegrass music. I notice that the Focal Celestee and Elegia models are somewhat reduced in price. I initially also considered the Bathys model. Would either of these options be suitable for my ambitions? Anyone else's input is also appreciated. Will I hear a considerable difference?
Hey Josh! Thanks for yet another great input, I’m currently still on HD 660s, but I’m looking to upgrade to something more dynamic in the near future, and thinking of going closed back as a daily work horse, would you mind to share your thoughts on will Azjrys be fine for me or should I save up for Hadenys and go open back yet again? I like HD 660s midrange but they are a bit too warm and dark for me, and not very dynamic as well.
I have tested both the Azurys and the Bathys. The extra 200 bucks are purely for ANC and bluetooth. The Azurys have much better bass, but otherwise the sound is very much the same. Bathys do have a popping issue when introduced to heavy bass... Personally i ended up betting a pair of Hifiman.
@@vikrambhaskar7976 They are better than the Bathys with a better soundstage, treble and bass. I did however buy a couple of used Focal Radiance which are slightly better, but twice as expensive if you were to buy them new. I would argue that the Nanos are the best headphones I have heard under 900 bucks.
It's a 40mm driver, focal never seem to mention the max power of their drivers, I think they'll be too weak / too easy to distort like the weak drivers in beyerdynamic and sennheiser headphones. I've yet to find something as fun as my M50X's despite having well over 10 headphones in my collection including Hifiman Arya. Anyhow great review, thanks.
Audio technica make a lot of headphones with similar sized drivers but carbon coated so they can do more resolution and transients than the m50x. Also they don’t look f ugly like the m50x. If you want an upgrade you should get the wp900. I personally have the es10 but they need a good eq to sound fun but once you have the dap for that, they are absolutely amazing
the production quality is (as always) top notch. you deserve more subscribers fr fr. on a sidenote I should be getting my arya stealth's in a few days and I can't justify another purchase like this one... which is kinda unfortunate, since I was looking for a good closedback... edit: Courtney listening to NF is such a vibe! W music taste
For mixing I won't recommend closed back headphones, as they generally have a less natural sound reproduction and less ideal for critical listening (from experience and research), you can look up why open backs or studio monitors are better for this. However if you need the versatility of sound isolation, you may wanna look at the headfi tests they did and look at the frequency response. From glancing, I saw that it kinda follows a harman curve, which is good for some people while others consider it as being not flat. However that topic is kinda a rabbit hole so definitely go read into it! It can be argued the harman curve is the closest to what you'd hear from a studio monitor if I remember correctly but please double check 😁 from the graphs it might be too much bass imo but haven't look at it more in depth. Ofc professional open back mixing headphones and some consumer open backs would be the first choice to mix and master. For monitoring I think these would do fine
His headphone and gear lists are in the description of his videos typically. I noticed they’re not in this video, but if you look at his most recent keyboard videos you should see the list in the description.
Word of the day: Unbridled. But seriously, Courtney really does give cool perspectives eh? That is pretty enjoyable to watch the honesty, and actually you should be charging meze and focal for marketing research. She is like a focus test.
Hi, can anyone give me some hints on what headphone to get next? I currently have a 6XX and recently upgraded to a schitt stack (magnius + modius). Given the age of my 6XX and my new stack I feel like upgrading. But I'm not sure what to get, first idea HD 800 S. Price I'm ok with but I'm wondering what to compare these 2. My main "issue" with these... is that there are "old" its a 2016 model, and I'm guessing there are companies making simular products that are better? Focal? Just looking for some tips! thanks guys. Joshua if you see this, I know you had a older video with a upgrade path, but I believe its about 3 years old (unless i missed 1?) so might be time for a update? btw I'm form europe, so please take that into account. (the 6xx was a pain and still is to get pads for here...)
What is the cord connection like. I assume a 3.5. Would you recommend a balanced 4.4 and which one. I currently use a focal Elegia with a balanced 4.4 and Dekoni custom pads, I hope these new focal would be a nice upgrade. What would you think?
As time passes by this channel just seems like “here is a new thing” you might want to buy it. Andrew Robinson might have competition. Buy yourself speakers + subwoofer + integrated amp and be happy for life.
I got my son the bathys a year ago and they are holding up very well, my kids destroy everything but these have been good. I don't think it is as weak as it looks. I have a celestee and the mg clear and they have a very premium build, you would have to do something very foolish to break them.
@Joshua: Thank you for your reviews from user perspective, not the engineering or producer perspective who focused on graphs and “shangri la” perspective. @Courney: Girl, you’ve been a woman now ;)
I need to check these out!
I may have to give these a try!
I really want to see a comparison between the Azurys and Hadenys with the 109 Pros. Especially the bass comparison between them would be interesting to see
Yes, in my country, the Azurys are priced similar to 109 pros
Courtney just put in words what felt when I saw the Azurys for the first time... It has a Frozen vibe. Well put!
Once DMS’s Project Omega headphone starts shipping, I’d love to see how the Focal Azurys compares to it.
I believe a more fitting comparison would be to Focal Hadenys, because both it and DMS Project Omega are open-backs.
The closed back Focals never had the bass popping problem, but the Open Backs sure do. All of my OB Focals do it. The question is, do the Hadenys pop?
Hey guys I have a question, do any of you feel "unbalanced" when a headphone only has a cable leaving one side? It makes me feel like something is wrong, it doesn't affect the sound (on most headphones at least) but it does bother me for some dumb reason. Looking for my people with stupid brains.
Thanks for all that you do Josh! I've been inching my way into this hobby for years now thanks to you and I'll never go back to normal headphones or gaming headsets. Can't thank you enough man!
Is it better than celestee? Or should I get this instead
Excited for the Stellia version of this new direction!
I'm just thinking out loud here, but isn't how wide a headphone sounds or doesn't sound is that to do more with psychoacoustics and tuning, as I've heard some closed back headphones sound very open and wide/expansive and some open headphones sound closed in and in your head.
imo the design is the biggest influence, you could give it a "airy" tuning but it won't feel like an open back, pads and venting could help that feel closer though.
I personally have a lot of issues with closed backs/in ears usually but got the the DCA E3 recently and it sounds and feels like an open back I love it.
@@chrisk3127 Yes definitely depends on the design of the headphones, Focal's closed back headphones like the Elegia, Celestee, Stellia have some sort of small venting port to let air through which in term gives them a more airy open sound, most budget headphones that I've tried don't have the best acoustics and give you that closed in your head sound, recently I've purchased some mid-tier and higher end closed back headphones which are better designed to sound more like an open back.
I was able to listen to these and make my test, the bass could be compared with the HD 8 DJ, precise, impactful, not as tight tho, the HD 8 outperforms in bass this ones, however I was pleased with the overall sound, mostly I bought these to listen to electronic music, nothing else
How does it compare to Radiance?
This guys filming and editing is on point. Did he go to film school?
I returned the Bathys because the max volume was too low. I wonder if these are loud enough where they would be extremely uncomfortable to listen to.
You know, I wish more reviewers would talk about replacement ear pads. Getting replacement pads for Focals are difficult especially if you're trying to target the same frequency as OEM pads.
Thanks for the review Josh! For the openback version, could you also assess the gaming performance (and maybe briefly compare it to Maxwell in that regard)?
This being more preferable over liric and e3 is so crazy. Insane value, this knocks out any plans to pick up the 620s or any dan clark closed backs
Gotta say I agree, I prefer Azurys to the Liric as well!
Are they worth the 200$ higher price compared to the aune 5000?
Aune has bad treble
Do these do really well with deep 808 sub bass in hip-hop while still retaining nice crispy high end? Would you recommend these for that or something else?
if you check measurements these have insane bass extension, it's not just a bass hump
hey joshua,have been subbed for a while...and as usual youtubes algorhythm has kept you away for a while....great vid,i may try these out...would love to see you make a video anually regarding which headphones for which type of music...i.e. what to choose in your opinion for drum & bass,house,pop,etc would be good to get your opinion on which headphones suit which music
How would you compare these to Neumann NDH-20's?
I've had the B&W p7 wireless since launch. I still love them but I'm now wanting an upgrade. I mostly listen to strong vocal/acoustic guitar centric music. I wonder how these compare
How do they compare to the Celestee? I’m looking for a good closed back headphone with good sound stage and bass. Something that would be great for movies or single player games while still being good for music. My current daily driver is the Audeze lcd-x. I love them but I want to find a good closed back headphone to go along with them.
I really like my celestee, I brought it used for 500 bucks on ebay as a closed back companion to the mg clears. It is a very enjoyable headphone that works with a wide range of music genres. It is a beast for rock and metal.
If the design wouldn't trigger my Trypophobia I'd buy this asap.
Thank you for the review!
Younger people can hear higher frequencies that older people cannot.
The younger have a tendency to prefer the the Dan Clark D3 to the Meze Liric II.
Maybe that's why Courtney prefers Azurys to Meze Liric II.
Thank you Joshua. I own a set of Bose QC headsets, now interested in moving up somewhat and interested in a more immersive music listening experience. I am a fan of classical and also folk/bluegrass music. I notice that the Focal Celestee and Elegia models are somewhat reduced in price. I initially also considered the Bathys model. Would either of these options be suitable for my ambitions? Anyone else's input is also appreciated. Will I hear a considerable difference?
where is that list?
Man, in my country, this are priced the same as the Meze 109,which one is the best?
Song at 3:26 ?
I have the DT 770 Pro X and the Fostex TH-X Purpleheart. How does the Azurys compare with these?
Hey Josh! Thanks for yet another great input, I’m currently still on HD 660s, but I’m looking to upgrade to something more dynamic in the near future, and thinking of going closed back as a daily work horse, would you mind to share your thoughts on will Azjrys be fine for me or should I save up for Hadenys and go open back yet again? I like HD 660s midrange but they are a bit too warm and dark for me, and not very dynamic as well.
in your experience, how'd you say these compare bass-wise against the likes of an Audeze 2 classic or the m1060c open mod? ty!
Hey Josh! Can you review the ZMF Bokeh?
Maybe in a video of the progression of close back headphones in price?
yes please
I have tested both the Azurys and the Bathys. The extra 200 bucks are purely for ANC and bluetooth. The Azurys have much better bass, but otherwise the sound is very much the same. Bathys do have a popping issue when introduced to heavy bass... Personally i ended up betting a pair of Hifiman.
Which Hifiman and what amp do you run it on?
@@MadLadsAnonymous Ananda Nano with a Fiio k11
@@emiliostieca so how does the Ananda compare? Was it worth the switch?
@@vikrambhaskar7976 They are better than the Bathys with a better soundstage, treble and bass. I did however buy a couple of used Focal Radiance which are slightly better, but twice as expensive if you were to buy them new. I would argue that the Nanos are the best headphones I have heard under 900 bucks.
I was going to get this but decided on the sony mdr-27m2 instead
And…any updates?(:
Bad choice. I sold my z7m2 as they sounded way too sibilant
It's a 40mm driver, focal never seem to mention the max power of their drivers, I think they'll be too weak / too easy to distort like the weak drivers in beyerdynamic and sennheiser headphones. I've yet to find something as fun as my M50X's despite having well over 10 headphones in my collection including Hifiman Arya. Anyhow great review, thanks.
Audio technica make a lot of headphones with similar sized drivers but carbon coated so they can do more resolution and transients than the m50x. Also they don’t look f ugly like the m50x. If you want an upgrade you should get the wp900. I personally have the es10 but they need a good eq to sound fun but once you have the dap for that, they are absolutely amazing
the production quality is (as always) top notch. you deserve more subscribers fr fr. on a sidenote I should be getting my arya stealth's in a few days and I can't justify another purchase like this one... which is kinda unfortunate, since I was looking for a good closedback...
edit: Courtney listening to NF is such a vibe! W music taste
@JoshuaValour When we will see review of "normal headphones" like STAX L700 or something better?
when are dual drivers comming to headphones lol
IEM's have been doing it for years now
I wonder if owners of Radiance or Celestee will consider switching to these.
Please review the Hadenys
How do these sound on tubes?
Court's gotta start her own reviews . Love the f bombs 😹😹😹
How would the Azurys compare to something like the Sony Z7M2? I would guess the Focal would outcompete it in all aspects except bass dynamics
I had the z7m2 and they had not enough bass.
oh, thats a shame then. thanks!
How do they compete with the DENON 7200 (Bass enjoyment)?
Are the interior dimensions of the ear pads the same of the other Focals?
How do these compare to Aune ones you covered recently?
Josh, please check out the Noble Fokus Apollo.
is this better than the focal elegia?
sounds like there is a lot of sound leak from the Azurys?
Josh, as a satisfied OG Focal Clear owner... I approve of this message.😌
Can those headphones be connected with a balanced cable?
No, they don't have a circuitry to use a balanced connection.
How are these for gaming?
Can you make a list of your favorite wireless headphones in 3 different price ranges? 😮
How flat is it, when compared to mixing professional headphones? In short, can it be used for mixing purposes?
For mixing I won't recommend closed back headphones, as they generally have a less natural sound reproduction and less ideal for critical listening (from experience and research), you can look up why open backs or studio monitors are better for this. However if you need the versatility of sound isolation, you may wanna look at the headfi tests they did and look at the frequency response. From glancing, I saw that it kinda follows a harman curve, which is good for some people while others consider it as being not flat. However that topic is kinda a rabbit hole so definitely go read into it! It can be argued the harman curve is the closest to what you'd hear from a studio monitor if I remember correctly but please double check 😁 from the graphs it might be too much bass imo but haven't look at it more in depth. Ofc professional open back mixing headphones and some consumer open backs would be the first choice to mix and master. For monitoring I think these would do fine
@@lagpeak6165 Totally agree that open backs are better, but I need closed backs, because i don't have silent working environments every time.
Can you review the dt770 pro x?
So, anybody been able to listen to these and the Drop DCA Aeon X Closed?
What do you think about these vs the Meze 99?
New Azurys or used Celestee are better for the same price? :)
Azurys
Any plans to review the modhouse tungsten?
Where is this personal recommendation list that you talk about at the end of the video?
i'm also looking for that
His headphone and gear lists are in the description of his videos typically. I noticed they’re not in this video, but if you look at his most recent keyboard videos you should see the list in the description.
@@burninsensashun thank you!
How old is she now?
Courtney!!! You are the best please don't ever change.
Word of the day: Unbridled.
But seriously, Courtney really does give cool perspectives eh? That is pretty enjoyable to watch the honesty, and actually you should be charging meze and focal for marketing research. She is like a focus test.
$550….this may be the closed backs I’ve been looking for..Graet review Josh..kudos..!
Do the Dali IO-12
Still rocking my og clears and the bass I slamming
These sound great but I cannot do baby blue
Hi, can anyone give me some hints on what headphone to get next?
I currently have a 6XX and recently upgraded to a schitt stack (magnius + modius).
Given the age of my 6XX and my new stack I feel like upgrading.
But I'm not sure what to get, first idea HD 800 S.
Price I'm ok with but I'm wondering what to compare these 2.
My main "issue" with these... is that there are "old" its a 2016 model, and I'm guessing there are companies making simular products that are better?
Focal? Just looking for some tips! thanks guys.
Joshua if you see this, I know you had a older video with a upgrade path, but I believe its about 3 years old (unless i missed 1?) so might be time for a update?
btw I'm form europe, so please take that into account. (the 6xx was a pain and still is to get pads for here...)
Please make a review of Sonos Ace. Your explanation is very easy to rely on, at least for me ❤
Ace sucks bro…
Evryrhing at this price needs to be compared to the new benchmark entry level audiophile headphone Fiio FT1
but do they clip like other Focal clippers? xD
I agree. I didn't like the Bathys either I returned my recently.
What is the cord connection like. I assume a 3.5. Would you recommend a balanced 4.4 and which one. I currently use a focal Elegia with a balanced 4.4 and Dekoni custom pads, I hope these new focal would be a nice upgrade. What would you think?
Yay, Courtney!
You have insanely good bass 👀
Hi Joshua, out of all focal headphones which one has the more bass?
Already pre-ordered HarmonicDyne x Z Reviews: Eris...so no money for this. I'm hoping for bass to smack me upside the head.
It's Ah-Denise, apparently. Because France.
Heard it and i rate it slightly worse than bathys and airpods max
10:46 that slide was worse than nails on a chalkboard
at least it wasn't the 2k Meze wood :o
That debate was elderly abuse.
It was a operation. They planned it that way.
@@tacticalcenter8658 they'll run newsom
I mean, you're right, but why are you posting this here?
@@braisedtoast9002they have 4 choices to run. That's one of them. But it'll likely be a woman.
@@tacticalcenter8658 they'll lose if the run kamala.
Wait a minute, what the hell happened to Courtney?
Courtney is at least the comedic relief to what can otherwise be a pretty dry hobby.
She is changed so much
Is Courtney someone from your family?
sister-in-law
Listen to Poetry in Motion by Roger Bonner
made them look cheap with the single connector tho
As time passes by this channel just seems like “here is a new thing” you might want to buy it. Andrew Robinson might have competition. Buy yourself speakers + subwoofer + integrated amp and be happy for life.
You mean Steve Huff?
i see it straight away. the hinge will break. big no
Focal trash build quality. Hate it. Also, non replaceable headband-padding...
I got my son the bathys a year ago and they are holding up very well, my kids destroy everything but these have been good. I don't think it is as weak as it looks. I have a celestee and the mg clear and they have a very premium build, you would have to do something very foolish to break them.
@10:20 *Honest
please more Videos with Courtney ❤
🔥
@Joshua: Thank you for your reviews from user perspective, not the engineering or producer perspective who focused on graphs and “shangri la” perspective.
@Courney: Girl, you’ve been a woman now ;)
So a drop in replacement for my AirPods Max... hooray!!!
Who is Courtney? Wife? Sister? Friend?
Sister in law!!
tungsten when
I can’t bring myself to hang these by my other equipment. The color is just so bad