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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ส.ค. 2020
- In this video, Rich explains how to create a click track in Melodyne that follows the live performance of a band, and how to export it as a tempo map to a DAW like Studio One. To do so, Rich first shows the tight ARA integration of Studio One and Melodyne. He illustrates how to find the tempo of a piece of music, and make the metronome sync up to the imported audio. He then goes on to demonstrate how to ensure the bar and beat markers of the song line up where you desire. Next, Rich demonstrates the importance of ensuring sync throughout the entire song by showing how to stretch individual bars and beats as needed. Rich also shows how time signatures can be altered if you wish to count the rhythm differently. He then displays how to make the tempo constant over a given time frame. Finally, Rich exhibits the ease of dragging this tempo map from the audio clip into the session, so the click track will match the audio throughout the entire song.
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This gentleman is a great teacher.
Been using Sonar in one iteration or another, for 25 years. I had always wanted to do this but was unable to figure out how. Even when Melodyne came out and I had Melodyne version Studio 4. I couldn't get it right. NOW, I can't wait to try this . I have a whole CD of Carole Kaye Bass Lines that were played live without a metronome and wanted to play along with them, maybe add drums. Now I have half a chance. Thanks. Great video.
This is what I was looking for to create a click track from a live performance. Thank you for the great tutorial.
If you are trying to do this in Studio One and the tempo is not being detected, it's most likely because the audio file itself already have a tempo assigned to it. A way to fix that is to right-click on the file and where it says 'File Tempo' it will probably say whatever tempo your Studio One session is set to (i.e 120). Change that to 0 (zero) and press enter which will change it to 'Not Set'. At that point you can do the 'Edit with Melodyne' function and then the plug-in should be able to detect the tempo. I hope this helps someone, I'm a newbie with Studio One and Melodyne and this frustrated the hell out of me! :)
You are my hero - I've spent all afternoon trying to figure this out, and this comment was the key. THANK YOU!
Excellent!! finally found best video on tempo mapping, thank you!
Lots of subscribers! Great info, thank you for explaining the alternative measures as well!!
Great video. Your presentation style is fantastic!
Very well explained and easy to follow. Thanks !
Another great video! Thanks!
oh my GOD this is what I've been needing really bad! Thank you so much, Rich Crescenti! I think you just changed my life! Well, maybe that's stretching it a bit, but you definately took me up a notch.
Perfect timing (no pun intended). I was looking for a tutorial on this exact feature, and you posted it just hours ago! If you're gonna read my mind, this project is going to go FAST!
Great video. Simple to understand.
Great video, thank you. Convinced me to upgrade from assistant to editor. I was able to use the feature in 5 min after the install, thanks to this video. Thank you and Melodyne is great.
Thanks for your wonderful comment! Enjoy your new Melodyne version!
Best video on tempo mapping in Melodyne hands down. Well done Rich.
Wow great information i really appreciated your efforts always..you do great videos thanks so much sir.
Many thanks, very useful!
Excellent Tutorial.
Excellent videos
Kudos Brother. On my way to try this now. I'm acoustic player/ writer and want to record to my tempo.
I've discovered this tempo map creation works really well when I want to double-track an instrument or vocal. (With one run-through of the song going into the left channel, then another into the right.) I will record the first "take" of the song into the left channel, then use this tempo map technique to map out that tempo into Studio One... Then I can have a nice click track to play against when I record the right channel "take". That really helps to get the second track close enough to the first to build a nice fat sound but leaves those small human imperfections (which we all love) in each take. This works great!
That’s exciting to hear. Thanks a lot!
Thank you, very usefull!
Another great video, thank you. I'm using cakewalk and find that getting the click track to follow the recording is pretty complex and resulting in too much variation in tempo (that's me admitting to being sloppy with time-keeping). I've compromised and used this to give general indicators then gone for a consistent tempo in sections of the song. Of course this only works when using a demo to find the tempo map for the song.
It'd be so cool if we could download a copy of this audio, so that we can follow along, step-by-step as a lesson (provided I can use this feature in Nuendo/Cubase land that is)
Little late to the party on this one, but this looks like a very useful feature. Still, it seems a little labor intensive if you're working with a lot of live recordings with a lot of tempo changes.
It would be nice if it would do something similar to quantizing. Where it would automatically adjust the grid to the file much in the way quantizing analyzes and adjusts the file to the grid. Then being able to create the tempo track from that.
Yes, I understand that's easier said than done.
01:47 Your words about "keeping the human performance" are well taken, Rich. A good example is the remastered version of the Beatle's "Here Comes the Sun". Opening the track in Melodyne and creating a tempo track for Studio One shows that the tempo is all over the place in the studio version of the song. In fact, the tempo is almost always in a state of (slight) flux. (Never mind that they took equal liberty with sticking to a constant pitch... but that's a topic for another day).
But the point here is that if a person records the entire song at 129bpm (the approximate tempo speed), two things will happen.
1. The tempo of the recorded track and the original Beatles track will quickly be out of sync.
2. The song recorded at a constant tempo will lose that "human element" feel the Beetles put into the original. It will sound like dull and lifeless "elevator music".
So creating a tempo track in Melodyne from the original recording and importing it into Studio One gives a perfectly synced click track for both practicing and recording the song.
I love this!
Side note: Thank you for the clear down-to-business videos you create, Rich. It's truly a pleasure learning from your videos. Very professional! (I'm so glad you don't make people suffer through a blaring 10-20 second signature audio clip at the start of your videos. More content creators should follow your lead.) 👍
Great video, but I wish we could get some tips on how to do this on a DAW that doesn't have such tight integration with Melodyne.
I don't use Studio One or ProTools :(
Agree, it would great to see for a DAW with out ARA integration.
Most of what Rich shows in this video can also be done in a non-ARA DAW. Some things, e.g. the tempo map export, will be different, though. Feel free to contact support@celemony.com, if you need assistance.
@@celemony I understand, I just wish we got a video tutorial to help non-ara daw users. I have a hard time getting a good workflow down without having the ara integration.
You don't have ARA?
What's ARA?
Is it just me, or is this entire procedure completely hit or miss? I cannot replicate this when I need it.
Thanks - great and informativ video! I try it with the integrated version in SO5 but there it´s different? I have no choise like your assign and to bring it to the first step from a bar it doesn´t work like in your video? Thanks for helping
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Can you please do a tutorial explaining (like I'm 5 years old) how can I find the tempo of a 4 bar audio loop (4/4) I've imported into Melodyne standalone editor? My 4 bar loop shows up as almost 8 bars on the time grid. I can never get the bar and beat markers to line up in sync with my imported audio. I want a constant tempo throughout the loop. Starting at bar 1, ending at bar 5 (or bar 8 since that's what's being detected).
I'm using Melodyne Assistant. This isn't working for me. When I click the arrow next to the tempo my options are... Confirm 134 as Tempo File, Multiply Tempo, copy Song Tempo to File, And Apply Constant Tempo. How do I get this to work?
Tempo mapping isn’t available in Melodyne assistant, only in Melodyne editor or Melodyne studio.
Hi there, comparing changes, closing then re-editing and removing Melodyne on a track in S1 seems incredibly unintuitive compared to adding/editing everything else in S1 - do you guys do a S1/Melodyne 101 tutorial? Couldn't see anything in the S1 playlist sorry. I'm trying to pitch-shift an entire track (multiple regions) - is that my problem? Melodyne doesn't work track-wide?
Thanks for the stringent presentation. However, I wonder how the last 15 seconds of this video work with Cubase (10.5).Simply drag&drop the file onto the tempo track of Studio1 doesn't seem to work in Cubase. I couldn't find any other way than to export it as a midi file and import it back into Cubase. But I always get problems with the time position.The tempo track in Cubase then starts at bar 1, but the file from which I created the tempo starts at bar 5, for example. Without moving all the tracks violently by inserting offset bars, I can't get it right.
We’ll certainly upload more DAW-specific videos in the future, including Cubase. In the meantime, feel free to contact support@celemony.com for assistance.
So you're saying anything I do I melodyne 5 is simultaneously done in studio one and all I have to do is delete then wallah?
Hi, tell me Please does The Newest melodyne 5 can working with studio one 4.5.6 ? It is last version before 5.
Yes, it should be possible. Why not download our free Melodyne trial and test it with your DAW? See here: www.celemony.com/en/trial
Celemony Thank You for answer.. meantime i have found better solution for me. Melodyne working with Logic Pro x so better for me is invest to melodyne celemony than presonus studio one updates.
3:30 for instructions
Can someone pleas tell me how to melodyne a vocal that changes BPM. I have a track that jumps up BPM and as soon as the track hits that point, melodyne stops transferring the vocal.
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This process has been pretty challenging/frustrating for me. When I click "assign file tempo," the track is not set up in a way where you are able to snap the first beat of the track to the first beat of the bar in melodyne. The hits line up between beats in the measure and it doesn't let you drag without snapping to the grid. Also, when I do happen to luckily get it to match correctly in melodyne and apply the melodyne tempo as the song tempo, the metronome in studio one does not match at all. It's showing the correct mapped BPMs, but the beats are not in sync with the song and the first hit does not match with the metronome beat. Having said all that, thank you for the video Rich! I'm sure it'll save a lot of time once I'm able to figure it out.
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In case it helps anyone else out, here is what I've found after getting some help: in order for the studio one metronome to match your tempo map at the end of the process, you have to make sure the first hit of your percussive track is lined up with grid marker 1 of studio one before you open melodyne on the track. This means erasing anything before the first hit of the track and then dragging the track to marker 1 at the beginning of the timeline. Then, you right click the track and select "bounce to new track" to solidify the changes. Before opening Melodyne, right click the track and change file tempo from 120 to 0 in order to change to "not set," as someone has mentioned above.
I have several stems just like you do, I edit the drum stem with Melodyne. I assign the file tempo in Melodyne just like in the video. I move the 3rd bar to the downbeat (I used 2nd bar but I don't that shouldn't matter). So far, so good. My results match the video. But when I leave Note Assignment Mode and click on Track Mode, the beginning of the track is now at bar 2 and not the downbeat that I set. Just for grins, I pressed on and copied the drum tempo to the tempo track and sure enough, the offset that I thought I had eliminated was still there. Any ideas about what went wrong?
I noticed in the video when Rich goes from Note Assignment Mode to Track Mode, the Audio in Melodyne shifts, it's not longer aligned to beat 3, but when he copies to the tempo track in Studio One, the Audio in Melodyne shifts back to where it is aligned to beat 3. For my project, the audio also shift in Melodyne off the downbeat, but when I copy my results to the tempo track in Studio One, the audio STAYS misaligned with the downbeat. Something I'm doing in Melodyne isn't making it's way back to Studio One. Not sure if anyone has seen anything like this, or knows what's going on. Please comment if you do.
@@webdoubt Hey Mike, please feel free to contact our Tech Support team, if you need help. See here: helpcenter.celemony.com/en/supportRequest
If I have a notated arrangement with marked tempo changes, let's say a musical theatre song with lots of vocal harmonies, how would I get my Melodyne project to match my arrangement?
Hey Dan, could you please contact our support team about this? See here: helpcenter.celemony.com/en/supportRequest
I can't get it to work with the version I have, Melodyne essential ..or I don't do it correctly?
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But when you extend Bar 1 to the start of the file, it doesn't quantize. This throws off the grid for the rest of the song by a small amount. Is there a way to quantize it to the start of the file?
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Is there a way to do this I Cubase with Melodyne, or this level of integration is only in studio one?
Generally speaking, Melodyne editor and Melodyne studio can always create a tempo map for you. It depends on the DAW whether or not it can read Melodyne’s tempo information. If it can’t, you can still export a MIDI tempo map from Melodyne which most DAWs can read. For details please contact our Tech Support: helpcenter.celemony.com/en/supportRequest
@@celemony thank you! 🙏✨
when I drag the bar line it "snaps" to the grid...how do I get it to float to where i want it like you do?
Sounds like you are dragging the wrong bar line. Try dragging in the gray area that shows the tempo curve. If you need assistance, please contact support@celemony.com. Thank you!
is it possible to do this in the melodyne 5 editor version?
Yes, Melodyne editor also comes with extended tempo functions.
Hi,
Is this Melodyne 5 ? Because I have Melodyne 5 assistant, and I don't have the "Assign file tempo" option, instead I have "Multiply tempo".
It's Melodyne 5 studio. Melodyne editor and Melodyne studio should give you more tempo options than Melodyne assistant. Please contact our support if you have technical questions: helpcenter.celemony.com/en/supportRequest
@@celemony Ah ok, so it's not possible to do so with Melodyne assistant.
There is no assign file tempo. How can I find a tempo if it is not the default 120? The launch with command m in studio one does not do it either as some other videos I have seen.
I have installed 5.2 and have all the latests updates as of may 2022
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Hi Rich. I am just wondering... For the sake of argument, let's say a person successfully created a tempo map for a song, then decided later to extend the song, thus making it longer, essentially just adding additional events to the end of existing tracks.
So my question is this. With new "events" being added to the end of a track, can a person just use Melodyne to create an extended tempo track for those new events only, then just drag that new tempo information generated by Melodyne for those new events directly up and paste it on the end of the existing tempo track?
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Hey Rich. I tried this, and when I drag the file to the tempo map bar, it draws the tempo map double speed/ half-size, and then shrinks the track! How do I stop this madness?
Thanks.
You can correct this in the Tempo Editor’s drop down menu for sub-beats. See here: helpcenter.celemony.com/M5/doc/melodyneStudio5/en/M5tour_TempoEditorDefinition?env=standAlone#chapter-8 - If this doesn’t help, please feel free to contact our Tech Support here: helpcenter.celemony.com/en/supportRequest
@@celemony Thanks so much!
I can't believe I'm the only one that is experiencing zero synergy between S1 and Melodyne. When I assign the file tempo, the metronome in S1 does NOT follow Melodyne. When I turn on the little metronome button in Melodyne like Rich does, literally nothing happens at all. It neither makes the click start nor stop, only the S1 metronome button does that. I can tell by listening to the click and watching the Melodyne markers that the click is way off from what Melodyne has assigned. I can not find any where in Melodyne or S1 to synch these up. Anyone else have this issue? No videos or blogs/posts on this issue either, very frustrating...
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How to detect and map Tempo with Melodyne ? How to Make Bpm Synchronization of Different Songs? I watched your videos ..Couldn't create Tempo map in every song with melodyn..146 Bpm ?/ Tempo map could not be created in every song in melodyne studio one..
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Could this tempo be done in Melodyne Editor?
Yes, a tempo map can also be created in Melodyne editor.
This is out of date. There is no "Assign File" option in the drop down menu. Also, turning on the metronome doesn't give a sound independent from the DAW. My window also looks different with no top menu showing 'pulses'. Additionally, there is a red line going through the WAV file on my track that Melodyne created and doesn't go away after closing Melodyne. I have no idea why it's still there. I'm currently in Studio One version 6. Can you kindly update? Thank you!
Update: After spending over 2 hours, I cannot get this thing to work. There's something about this program that just seems clunky and DATED. I hope you guys overhaul this. As of now, I cannot see dropping the full asking price. And given Ozone 10's incredible A.I., (among other companies) I don't think it will be long before there is a new kid on the block. All the best. ✌
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Can Nuendo & Cubase sync to Melodyne tempo?
The latest Cubase and Melodyne versions cooperate very nicely. See here: th-cam.com/video/7p41tNSwtD8/w-d-xo.html
very nice tuto, however it could have been nice for those who can't afford the studio version ($700) to get alternatives IF ANY of course. thx
how do you do this in protools?
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at min 3:40, it looks so easy. You just click it, and it works. But in reality, there are a TON of things that need to be set up, for this to work efficiently. It's baffling that they cannot work this out.
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Subtitle,please..
Not for Ableton Live 11 users!
Make a tutorial on how to create a tempo map for Ableton users
This doesn't work at all in Melodyne Essentials. Obviously, this video was made for folks who have all of the functionality. The tempo map I made simply made everything worse. Where does the useful functionality described here start?
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@@celemony To be honest, I probably would've bought whatever upgrade was recommended. Two months later, I wonder why you couldn't just tell me what software version I needed now. It might help others, too.
@@DevinGalaudet1 Sorry for the late reply. Editing the tempo map is possible in Melodyne editor or Melodyne studio, if this is your question. Our support team will be happy to help with any details.
@@celemony Thank you.
Yeaah but it is a function that no-one needs. I'm sorry so much developing work. The fade-in tool in 5 is so good. Got to do what the customers want and they want a lot.
Maybe it's not needed in Studio One. But this integration with tempo map is very intriguing to me...
@@mabian69 yeah, I just added my input being one of many dudes, all different.
LIke most, too much talking. Just show how to do it!
As you can see in the other comments, most people actually like all the detailed information that Rich is giving. If you are not one of them, you could alternatively increase the playback speed of your TH-cam player. 😉