Pilot's Watches Under $200-Flying on a Budget
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 มิ.ย. 2024
- In today's video, we'll stretch your budget and show you five pilot's watches that won't break the bank. From automatic to quartz, from Germany to Asia, there are many options when looking for an affordable pilot's watch.
For the items shown in the video, please visit www.longislandwatch.com or see the below links:
Orient: www.longislandwatch.com/Orien...
Techne: www.longislandwatch.com/Techn...
Aristo: www.longislandwatch.com/Arist...
Aeromatic: www.longislandwatch.com/Aerom...
Messerschmitt: www.longislandwatch.com/Messe... - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
"If you're a pilot and you're in the water, you've got bigger issues than your watch not working." ha ha ha! There is nothing more hilarious than truth sometimes.
HueTubeR I laughed hard too haha
HueTubeR I has nothing to do with that. It's all about the stewardess spilling your drink while in the cockpit
i love it just love itttt looool
At least it ain't as bad as a submariner getting his watch wet.
HA HA HA FOR YOU ONE DIVE WATCH ,ONE PILOT WATCH ENOUGH, BRO NOTHING IS SAFE IN THIS 🌎
That Messerschmitt plane is no Me 209 (that was only a prototype, and a failed one) but the iconic 262. The first operational jet. 262!
Thanks Marc. I'm ever so glad that I bought the Orient with the deep blue dial from you. Great watch, Great lume and good movement accuracy to say nothing of the fair price. Keep up these sorts of comparison videos and you're videos on watch terminology and movement characteristics. Thanks.
I've recently purchased a Citizen Avion. That watch is clearly bases on a Flieger B Uhr watch from the 1940s. Love the watch.
Hi Mark thanks for putting that up. You're videos are always full of great information. Keep up the good work
Appreciated!
I love the fact that you go in detail describing the finish, like the sand blast casing for example or the lume shots those are critical for making a decision from half way around the world ...
Thank you!
Thanks for the video! It's great to see all these different non-mainstream brands (besides Orient)
Thank you!
Great video. It's nice to know that we can purchase these at such a low price to get an intro into Pilot's watches.
I love this guy’s sense of humor😂😂😂
That blue dial Orient is beautiful
I didn't even bother looking to see that beautiful orient diver watch. This is definitely a time I wish I had, even at your regular pricr it can't be beat.
Great reviews! You do an excellent job at explaining.
0017Bulldog thanks
Heard about you guys from urban gentry thought i check out. good vid
Thanks! Good chap!
Same
Loving the Orient.
Roelf van der Merwe
I own this watch in blue and love it.
@@dennishibbins8610 its not too big?
Massimo Riserbo pilots watches are bigger by design.
Mr Lugtolug. Great website. Will be ordering from JHB soon
Great video! I would go for a Laco though but I'm loving these videos.
Agreed! They make a great watch.
I didn't know Orient made a pilot watch. It seems to be a well-made watch.
Oddly, if the Messherschmidtt pilot watch is really called the Model ME 209, the aircraft featured on the watch dial isn't the ME209, a single piston engine racing aircraft. Rather it's the ME262, a ground-breaking twin engine jet fighter aircraft with a very distinctive triangular fuselage cross section when viewed head-on. Sorry, I'll check my aviation geek credentials at the door next time. Love your reviews, Mark!
Thank you for the feedback.
Thanks for a good review of these low cost aviation watches. Some pretty nice ones here, but both Aristo and the Messerschmitt have pretty severe misalignment of the second hand, which would drive me crazy.
as usual Long is watch informative and great viewing
Thank you.
Great video!!
Best value pilots watch if you can find one used is the Prometheus Recon 5. Dressed Unitas manual wind, Swiss made also. I bought mine pre release for $350 but they retailed new for $500 or so. Had mine 8 years and it never misses a beat.
The aircraft shown in frontal profile is an Messerschmitt Me 262, nicknamed Schwalbe in fighter versions, or Sturmvogel in fighter-bomber versions, was the world's first operational jet-powered fighter aircraft.
The way that the seconds hand on the messerschmidt misses the markers is giving me cancer.
Can you imagine a cheap watch not being perfect? If you want a quality inexpensive watch, then buy a Seiko. Similarly, Stowa makes great Fliegers at a price that reflects German labor costs.
Some people just want something in the middle. There is no reason to complain about the quality of cheap stuff, unless you are one of those "everyone should only buy Japanese watches" people. That is okay, the best watches really are made in Japan (or at least the best watches that cost less than a used car), but there exist different people with different preference than you or I or the next guy. Who am I, or you, to criticize?
you too? I thought i was seeing things
Roelf van der Merwe yup, pretty bad.
How about the fact that the model is a ME-209 and the silhouette is a ME-262?
Ikr...Both German-made watches have a seconds hand that is misaligned...
Really nice watches but do like the Orient watch. I own a couple of pilots watches at the moment by Citizen and Seiko which I wear often. Both came with military watch straps which I immediately changed to leather straps which I found to be much better. Thanks for posting this video. Am definately looking to purchase an Orient watch at a future date. Not many stockists of Orient in the UK but are widely available on Amazon UK. I have just ordered an Orient 3 star automatic from Amazon UK for around £69. Never owned one before so dont know what they are like yet.
I think Aristo is the best bang for buck aviation style watch, very attractive and using an ETA in a price rang where others are using a Miota.
Nice video, FYI the Messerschmitt 209 watch actually has an image of a different plane the ME-262, not a 209..
The Aristo will be my next watch. You should make a video of racer watches.
Great video full of good info on some watches I knew nothing about. I will stick with an affordable flieger and then I can afford to fly further. Thank you L I W.
Thanks for watching.
I missed the belgian-made Gavox Curtiss P40 quartz watch. Love the non-chrono version with canvas strap.
Nice video, but I have to agree with the guys moaning about the seconds hand on the Messerschmitt, it would really bug me for the hand being almost exactly landing imbetween the indices. Seiko knock out really nice, 'Made in Japan' Flieger/ military exhibition case back watches for well under $€£150. I guess I'd only get German if I was spending over a grand on a Sinn or better still, the superb Damasko.
Hi,Marc!Do you expect in the near future to have in stock the blue Orient Flight?Thanks
Aeromatic had proved that even at budget level, its movement can be hacked. Laco's 21 miyota movement can't. Which is such a disappointment considering Laco was historically one of the 5 companies that produced flieger watches for the Luftwaffe. The hacking feature, historically, is a crucial feature of these watches.
What do you think about marathon? I love the standard field watch look and tritium tunes! Its like $350 for an automatic and DOUBLE that for an ETA based movement. Idk if its worth the extra money
Hello, On the Messerschmitt wrist watch, the image on the face is a ME 262. It is a late WWII jet aircraft. The ME 209 was propeller driven. The link below for the watch leads to the correct web-page with the correct name. Hopefully, this will clarify a minor mix-up with the name of the watch. Thanks for all of these new videos. :-)
I appreciate that! I realized when I put up the product link, I used the wrong description.
Great, informative video, definitely tell you're from East coast saying "wooder" haha
Not just east coast, but Long Island!
I wish the Techne was still available! League of its own
i bought the orient from island watches and love it, would have been even better if it had no date!!!
One question; Is it possible to wind it manually as well?
They're all so beautiful! Such a shame you're sold out of all of them!
Of course I need to add one to my collection! Silly question! 🤣
Hello Marc, i see the orient flight is out of stock at your website, will you guys be bringing in more?
I have a Messerschmitt quartz watch and I am very happy with it
watched this objectively, liked the video, clean watches; i think the big pilot is worth $12k, so i guess im saving for the IWC
Laco also makes some gorgeous Fliegers.
The A Uhr....is actually an earlier model to the B Uhr....as a lot of the B Uhr watches didn't start entering service by RLM until very late 1940 to the beginning of the year 1941.
The 'Chotovelli' watch I saw yesterday beats them all - Under 200usd too
Gonna need a 2024 version of this
Gosh the Orient just crushes... Yet I can't get on board with the dial... I wonder if I could replace it with a sterile one.
kindly make a vedio regarding watches with the best lume
Thanks for the idea.
which do you think is a better option, the Orient pilot watch shown in this video or the Aeromatic with the Seiko movement that you have available in your store_
9:50 On the Messerschmitt the seconds hand doesn't even try to align with the indices. It's all over the place.
That's a pretty common thing with quartz movements. If you watch it, the seconds hand it closer to hitting the marks between 0 and 30 seconds, then further off from 31-60. I've always assumed this is due to a very slight amount of 'play' in the movement and actual gravity having an effect on the hand.
IMO, I don't obsess over my quartz watches that act this way... but watching a higher beat rate automatic is SO satisfying!
Brad Taylor
"That's a pretty common thing with quartz movements." -- Not the ones I have seen, only very sloppy ones. My $35 Casio analog quartz hits the indices perfectly.
mountainhobo I do agree, but a Casio has much greater tooling in its assembly as its a super-mass produced watch, whereas these are assembled by hand. The registration, like many things, bothers some and not others.
saw that two must be the hand was put on wrong .. jeff ..
Another evidence to show that paying more for the "made in (some prestigious country)" is not worth it. One should look at the product itself, not the branding or packaging.
Out of all the watches the Orient has the smoothest second hand action. I am assuming it has the best movement among them?
The Orient is one of the 2 in this bunch that has a mechanical (ticking spring wound) movement. It moves the second hand 6 times a second but it is less accurate than the quartz watches with their 1 per second swing. Some people prefer one or the other. I don't find the continuous movement to be an improvement over the quartz style move - stop - move.
I mean, at least something about being a pilot is cheap; I had to take out a $12,000 loan just to get past private pilot (I never bothered as cool as it would've been, I didn't feel like jumping in $100,000+ worth of debt just to make $22,000 a year).
I liked the Aristo best, then Messerschmitt.
So which type did the fighter pilots used most, A or B dial?
Thanks.
Tchüss ;)
Melvorgazh B-dial was preferred by navigators who needed to keep track of minutes flown at a given heading.
Orient Flytech available in Brazil. Not traditional but bad. Bullhead chronograph!
HANHART and TUTIMA were the major supliers for Luftwaffe in WWII.
What is the difference between the Orient ER2A008D and the ER2A004D? Is it just the strap and everything else is the same?
Also water resistant to 5 atmospheres? When I go diving it's usually with length in meters or yards. Not presure I count.
What is 5 atm +-?
Melvorgazh each atm is 33 feet. 5atm will be around 160ft. Prob decent enough for light water use.
May I ask how good of ronda 515? Is it reliable?
've had my seiko watch for a while and it worked perfectly.For example after a week it could've been still ~in time. My watch got couple hits and dropped floor and it kinda broke. Gained about 3 minutes per day.
I repaired it at seiko service center and it cost 75e. The problem is that it gains still 24-30 seconds per day.
My watch has 4r35b movement.
I've been usin this for 2 weeks now. What should I do?
It's a bit fast, can probably be regulated slower if they serviced it properly.
just purchased Orient Aviation Automatic watch and have loved it so far. This is my first automatic watch and I have one question. How Long before Orient Aviation Automatic watch stops if I stop wearing.?
I was wondering if I can take it off when I sleep(7-8 hours).
Yes. It will run for about 40 hours off the wrist.
Long Island Watch thank u so much for the info..never would have found out about this watch if it's not for this vid..:)
Was wondering, what is the difference between these pilot watches and field watches? (not talking about aviator chronograph with tachymètre, etc). In terms of design/visual characteristics I mean.
Conan McFly I think of a pilot watch almost like a dial in the panel deck, but in your wrist. Basically big numbers and markers and big size, above 40 and up to 55 mm. As a pilot you are in a cabin so no water resistance nor scratch, just easy to read dial. On the other hand, a field watch must be rugged. You are going to be on the soil sometimes, it will rain on you, sometimes under water, and you are going to smash it a lot of times. Size is no big deal so maybe under 40 mm is gonna be ok.
Pretty sure the heritage of "aviator" watch is the design sent by the Luftwaffe to German watch manufacturers before and during WWII. The very, very specific layout and marking patterns of "flieger" (German for Pilot) watches are derive from that source.
Nice Video!
Can we consider also Seiko SNK809 as a pilot watch?
More of a field watch really.
I believe the SNK809 design is based on the B-Uhr Type B, the quintessential flieger watch.
Did you stop stocking techne?
any new stocks of the Orient?
Aristo seconds hand not lining up with indicies would drive me crazy
Ate you able to replace the band on the ARISTO 3H80
Yes, you can. It is quite simple. Our other Watch and Learns can help you.
I am flying with £50 flieger with a handwinding Seagull St36 movement with perfect accuracy and a 56 hour power reserve.
Mine is the type A flieger dial. Type B is also available.
Any update for 2018?
Messerscmitt or Aristo (Quality / Durability ) ? Prices are very very similar,,
Same company, similar quality, honestly.
Would you consider the orient wingman a pilot?
Yes, I would.
I just bought one. I cannot wait until it arrives. I bought it from LongIslandWatches.com.
honestly talking about 5 atmospheres like its so so..
what pilot is going to be 165ft under water and not be dead?
thats not how watch water resistance is measured - 5 atms or 50 meters means its rated as basically showerproof - even surface swimming whilst wearing it would be a bit of a push / risk.
you'd need an ISO rated dive watch to be guaranteed watertight at 165ft
What's really a pilot's watch?
How is it different from a non pilot & what's its usability
I can’t find the orient one.
LOL. I was thinking the same thing about pilots having bigger problems than water resistance,
Indeed!
What about gigandet?
Messerschmitt watch it's not a 209 the aircraft shown on the dial is a ww2 me262 jet fighter
The made in Germany requirements are far less strict than compared to Swiss made. Even if the movement is from ETA Switzerland, made in Germany is still applied. Vise versa that would not qualify for Swiss made!
Still, there are rules. And the Swiss rules used to be loose as well, over time everyone will tighten up.
Just compare to the German rules, the Swiss rules are much stricter regarding of country of origin!
Is it me or are the minute hands too short?
Why mentioning only Laco and never Stowa? I think it is equally worthy, if not even better than Laco in terms of overall quality.
Orient looks like my seiko 5 snzg.
what makes a watch a pilot watch?
A few basics; simple dial, easy to read, uncluttered, usually no date (though this varies), black dial, no bezel.
i thought i saw a seiko 5s ..they are very similar
y el citizen aviator eco drive?....
Olvídate de eso
@@orientationP ..y porqué??
Saludos
Why did they Luftwaffe bought so expensive watches as Laco?
Back in 136, *all* watches were auto and none of them were made in Asia. No quartz back then.
Ok.
Yet, nowadays they are still expensive (400-700+ €)
Compared with the few 50-120max $ used in operation by military personnel.
Ok. Laco watches are damn beautiful, but still.
Weren't there cheaper accurate watches during the late 30s?
Nobody in the 1930s had anything remotely approaching the productive capacity of the world today. EVERYTHING technological was simply more expensive. Our material standard of living is much, much higher than it was back them.
To actually answer your question, you would have to get data on how much those watches actually cost. And then compare that to the price level of the time. You simply cannot compare the relative priciness of items across vastly different environments without accounting for a lot of differences.
The purchasing habits of today's consumers and military personnel tell us nothing about the actual cost of watches in the 1930s.
Ok.
Thanks a lot for that long explanation :)
Sorry. . . I am a history teacher with a side of economics - it's in my nature! ;)
A shame about the techne lume.
I hate battery watches, leave them for a time and the battery leaks destroying the watch.
Pilot watches , field watch ?
Eamonn Mullen infantry dual time wrist digital watch
Yes, usually.
pilots and navigators like the A model, they work off hours, bombardiers like the B model....they work off minutes.
best flieger under $200 is Escapement time. 101%
won't get a pilot watch. All looks identical to me
They are all trying to mimic the same look, so that's probably a good thing : )
I used to think the same thing. Now I desperately want one.
That's why I'll get the Orient because it looks the same as the more expensive watches.
If you buy watches solely for the look, get a 20 dollars chinese watch, they can be flashly and exclusive enough.
LIW, not saying you do it as I love your channel, but what I don’t get is you show 5 or so pilot watches, not one word about homage or fake watches. They all,look the same but since they aren’t Chinese so it never gets said. I live in China and I’m amazed at Chinese Seagull and Parnis and San Martin who make these watches with good movements with sapphire and screw crowns for 80-200$. But everyone says they are fake and crap. I’ll buy 3 decent Chinese watches for one European
If you are pilot and in the water you have bigger issues than your watch not working.
BTW: It is NOT pronounced as "Wollmer" like you do. W in European languages is pronounced like English speakers mistakenly do the V, which should be spoken the same as an F! The company name is properly pronounced as "Follmer". The V is pronounced like an F in German, because the Roman alphabet had no F, just a V, so they are effectively the same!
They all have flaws. I like the aeromatic the most, but those tiny hands wreck it. The techne probably is the next one I like, even tho it's a quartz.
PLEASE! Modern lume is nothing but a 5 minute gimmick, because it is not radio-active anymore, and that is a good thing!
It is useless, because it will NOT glow all night, so why bother?
A few generations of assembly workers in the early and up to mid 20th century ended up with cancer and early deaths because of radium lume-paint. The ladies were even licking their radium-soaked paint brushes to keep them pointy for fine detailing, and lost their jaws, true story there!
That lume glowed for maybe 10 or 15 years until the paint was literally burnt, which is why those old dials and hands all looked brown, instead of greenish white, and then these watches were still radio-active. Tritium tubes are supposedly not dangerous, but are still radio-active, and are used only by commando-type unit militaries now, and they don't expect their soldiers to live forever, but charge into battle and die! (I can say that, as a veteran myself!)
I would MUCH rather see high contrast hands in solid black on light dials, or solid white on dark dials, than silly lume strips in thin skeleton frames, that often make reading watches harder for aging eyes!
Nope Me-262
No date on fliegers!
Makes me laugh when you see people with a muzzle slung under their chin, so that they can smoke! The harm from one cig is far worse than a day associating with the general population.
Ju52 junkers
"Orient dont make pilots watches ".....as he holds the pilots watch made by Orient in front of the camera...pmsl.
Meaning this was their only foray into it.
That's like saying she is a virgin ...apart from the one bloke that had her....just joking.