I am a pilot and I like pilots' watches, but honestly, I never use them for flying. My friend teaches 777 pilots, he does not wear a watch. I asked him and he said there are about 14 clocks in the cockpit.
I'm a Private Pilot and I never really use the watch for flying either. They might be useful as a backup for your backups or to easily see Zulu time compared to the weather reports during planning. I'm just disappointed that no pilot watches thinks to come with a barometer. For non pressurized aircraft, it would be cool to get a backup altimeter and v/s indicator on your wrist, or even for pressurized aircraft, you could use it to see cabin altitude.
Tissot T-Touch and a whole selection of G-Shocks come with barometers. I have both and the T-Touch is a real standout, high quality watch. Definitely recommendable.
My preferences have changed over the years. When I was a youngster I prefered the very busy Blue Angel type pilot watches, but now that I am well aged and wise with poor eye sight, I really like the cleaner dials of the more traditional watches. Gotta love those Hamiltons. As always, great video.
I bought 2 Dekla pilot watches after your review of them. One for me and one for my son. We did a father/son trip to Germany and wanted to buy identical watches to commemorate the occasion. Thanks for the recommendation. We love them.
All these watches were fine (especially the Citizens). I hope to see my personal favorite pilot watch (Bulova Moonwatch - 96B258 $330 on Jomashop) in the future. It is a replica of one of the watches actually used by The NASA Apollo 15 mission in 1971. The new replica includes a special quartz movement that is as accurate as +-10 seconds in a whole year!
This was the first Ali Express watch I got just 3 weeks ago. I wasn't sure if I'd like a fleiger so got this as it was cheap and I could try it out to see if I wanted a dearer one. Well, I loved the watch, it's very nice, stainless steel, sapphire crystal with AR coating great all night lume, and +3 spd with the NH35 movement....now I'm happy, don't feel the need to buy another one!
@@brianmsahin That’s all of the Flieger you’ll ever need!! I also went with the bronze Steel Dive 1940 with sterile dial... (ironically not steel or a diver😁) Chinese factory “brands” are upping their game, big time!👌
I picked up one of these after Jody's recent Aliexpress homage watches video, along with the upgraded clasp he recommended. I've most certainly not been disappointed, it's a great watch!
Last week I ordered the SteelDive Flieger (SD1940) which seems to be exactly the same watch. I got it directly from Steel Dive at www.steeldives.com for $99 USD. I added on a waffle strap (for another watch) to bring the total above the $99.99 required for free DHL shipping, which took 3 working days to get to Canada ! I love it. Nice brushed top and sides, NH35, sapphire crystal, screw down crown, classic Flieger Type-A style dial and 200m water-resistance .. incredible value for the $$$. - Michael
The main problem I have with a lot of modern pilot watches is that there is way too much on the dial, the citizen and seiko is even hard to look at cause there’s so much on the dial
Actually, the Casio has a very good, solid link bracelet. It's also listed at 45.5mm but that includes the crown, the watch has a 44mm diameter, just like the Duro. Should probably get it and review it, no good reviews for it on youtube yet.
Not really. Casio makes everything better than Citizen and still makes it less expensive than Citizen. Therefore, Casio is, by far, the best brand in the world regarding value for money.
@@RM-el3gw Yes, really. I never saw any Casio with such defects, either. But that doesn't mean they don't exist. The same goes for Citizen. On the other hand, Jody made the video about a new Rolex watch who has such problems. No brand is immune to some faults in production. And Casio is definitely not known to have such problems on regular basis. Actually, they even developed a special mechanism to take care about misalignment of second hand with indices, which they built into the best watch line in the world - Casio Oceanus.
@@damyr I would say Casio gives a little bit more bang for your buck, but Citizen often has better designs to my taste. Love them both though, and am a proud owner of a stunning Oceanus 🌊
Citizen is well represented in the Flieger business. I have a Seiko SNN231 on a seatbelt NATO, which is basically a IWC Pilot Chrono clone, and I like it a lot.
Love my Nighthawk / Navihawk. I initially bought it purely as it's a cheap GMT and thought I'd dislike the huge, busy dial, but I find I wear it far more often than any of my autos. It's running at about +1 second a month, too - super accurate. That TWCO though... WANT
As a commercial pilot, I can confirm I wanted a watch with a clear easy to read dial that has a good lume... I have many watches varying from Breitling to Orient, and my go-to watch for work is the Orient pilot watch... Love the automatic movement and it has a clear, easy to read dial/lume
Great video Jody!! You missed the Escapement Time Flieger. An amazing value Chinese special! Definitely worth checking out for a top 10 Ali Express Pilot's episode :)
I'm a pilot, and I always take up my Vostok amphibia or my Seagull 1963. They're both very legible, and it's always bumpy where I fly so legibility is important. After all, the less time spent with your head down trying to read something gives you more time to actually fly the plane
Happy to hear you are going to review more Citizen watches. Given your proximity to the Asian market I would love to see a Kuroshio ‘64. What a fantastic piece of horological history. Also, the NJ0100 series are a cool aviator style automatic offering from Citizen. They have the infamous Miyota 8210 movement in them but the one I own keeps great time and I find I wear it more often than my SNZG13.
A true display of patriotic timepieces by our AU friend on the other side of the world. Timepieces will always be a true display of unity - Thank you Jody!
Jody, I am a pilot and I highly recommend it. There is no freer feeling in the world than being up in the air, even at just 5,000'. The dirty little secret about flying a plane is that it's actually EASIER than driving a car. That is not a joke or exaggeration because unlike cars, planes are designed to almost fly themselves. In a Cessna, you just hang a couple of fingers on your yoke and let the plane go. It's design is referred to as inherently "stable" which means that, without control input, its structural design forces it to fly straight and level as long as the engine provides adequate thrust. Jody, I know it's cheaper to fly in Canada than in Australia but this is something that I really think that you need to try. Funnily enough, I'm also SCUBA-certified and I MUCH prefer dive watches to pilot watches. LOL
Great video Jody!!! I own the Citizen Blue Angels same model you reviewed here. Amazing watch although very difficult to navigate the functions as they are as you said “vast”. The one criticism is that strap deteriorates over time and I just recently bought a blue Rubber strap from Barton Watch Straps that after some difficulty attaching seems like it will hold up nicely. Thanks again keep up the great work!! Brian
Citizen Avion should be on this list imo! Yes it's the biggest watch I own at 44.5mm but it's just a perfect combo flieger style watch. Easy to read, three hand date, cool blue liked hands, 100m wr and of course eco-drive!
I have had the Citizen Nighthawk for 10+ years. It started doing the two second skip and the mineral crystal was scratched. With some inexpensive tools from eBay I changed the capacitor and upgraded the crystal to double domed AR coated sapphire. Now like new and stunning.
Escapement Time Type'b'. Sapphire crystal, fantastic lume, decent finishing, crown and case back, with (allegedly) 300m of water resistance! 🤯🤯🤯OK, I'm cynical of the water resistance but I love mine. Looks far and away more valuable than the pittance I paid for it on AliExpress 😊👍
Great one J. You did leave out some great Aliexpress deals. I purchased the Escapement Time Flieger (US $100), an amazing deal. The GEERVO also seems very interesting for the price (US $80).
The AOPA Pilot's Chronograph from Jack Mason is an excellent buy. That said it's my first aviator watch. I have several dive watches though and it was the AOPA's rotating bezel that hooked me into the buy as I use that feature often to track an ETA at work on the fly - no pun intended. I just discovered your channel and love its title - JUST ONE MORE WATCH - as I seem to use it often following the purchase of my most recent timepiece.
I have a Citizen Navihawk I wore for 15 years before I got into mechanical watches. It is tank, the glass got scratched over the years but it's still a great watch that works flawlessly.
Well, first of all, Boomer Sooner for the OU t-shirt! I was happy to see you start of with the Blue Angels watch you were wearing...I come from a family with a history in Naval service and I've seen the Blue Angels perform many times, going back to the early 60s. Oddly enough, I also happened to be wearing a pilot watch when I spotted this video, a Citizen Eco-Drive AW1361-10H. It's a modern take on the Type B Flieger. Nice looking and pretty affordable (although more expensive now on Amazon than when I bought it a couple of years ago). Pilot watches are one of my favorites, along with field watches. I like both the old school Fliegers and the modern chronographs, but prefer the Flieger aesthetic. Great video, thanks Jody!
The Casio is a looker, and the bracelet is not too bad. It was my first serious watch 6 years ago, and still it beats on my wrist as I am writing this. Beware of the size though, 43mm diameter and 51mm L2L are not for everyone. I would have added the Citizen "the pilot" to the list: full titanium, perpetual calendar and all the typical goodies from top Citizens for 500€ when on promotion is something to take into account. Great vid Jody, greets from Spain!
Glad to see the shirts made it in time for this video! Using one of them on a top 10 video is perfect... I'm going to share with my students because they're always asking about and looking for a good pilot watch. Great video... and Boomer Sooner!
Highly recommend you check out the Marathon Navigator. Tritium lume and actually used by US military. We have marathon clocks throughout our submarine. There are two versions of the navigator that now has a sapphire instead of hesalite. It has fixed spring bars that can be lightly hammered out if you want to use spring bars. By design, it's only supposed to compatible with nato/zulu straps.
My only pilot watches are the Seiko 5 SNZG09 (though this is technically a field watch) and the Escapement Time Flieger Type B. The latter is currently in my daily rotation.
i traded my black duro with its black and grey nato strap for my edifice with the internal sliderule bezel, i loved my duro but i been wanting a ef-527 for a while now and i got it, i ran into a buddy who deals in watches so i gave him the duro and a case mini sodbuster for it. great deal
That twco looks clean and legible, the main reason why pilots watches are appealing imo. A lot look great with synthetic/nato straps too for a more casual look.
Excellent video as always Jody Just wondered if you have an opinion on the Cincinnati Watch Company P 40M pilot watch? It’s within your budget limit and is powered by a Selitta manual wind.
You were correct! Number 8 is the blue angels NIGHThawk. The website you show has a mistake in their listing. In the description you inserted from the website it is referred to as the blue angels nighthawk
I recently bought a Citizen Nighthawk CB0230-81E. It’s radio controlled, solar charged, sapphire, titanium and under €500 at the moment… great watch (made a few simple video’s with different straps)
I've got an older Citizen Skyhawk Blue Angels, the ani/digi model. With a main dial, no less than 4 sub dials, 2 digi displays and the slide rule bezel it's utterly baffling in it's complexity. While in a way I love it for that absurd complexity, I rarely wear it and there have been many times where I've considered flipping it and using the proceeds to buy the Seiko. Thanks for reminding me!
Funny thing. I just bought a Citizen Skyhawk A-T right before seeing this video. It could be a another recommendation since you can find some for less than $500. I bought the leather strap Blue Angels one for $488 and it does have a sapphire crystal. I think the analog/digital aspect is awesome and it's definitely a travel watch with all the crazy timezones features.
My recommendation is a Nodus Sector Pilot. Such a neat little watch. I got a Sector Sport and I am waiting for my preferred colorway of the Sector Pilot to come back in stock.
Nice video, thanks. My problem with Laco is that they have admitted that their 'entry' level watches such as the one you show here are sources from Asia. So at the end, why not directly source ourselves from Asia, the 'EscapementTime', 'SanMartin' and 'steeldive' from ali are pretty much the same, you can choose between 40mm and 42mm, great finishing and at least you get the choice of nh35, pt5000 and sw200 for cheaper than what laco is selling.
A conundrum indeed John, and one that I touched on in a San Martin vid a while back. I guess if the brand name still matters, then Laco should be on any list.
@@JustOneMoreWatch you are correct, for those who care about the brand on an unbranded dial :) As for your videos :) every time my wife listen to the famous 'Hellooo' sge directly says : you are not going to buy a new watch are you??? :))))
Just a word of warning regarding the Seagull 1968. Make sure the pushers are correctly screwed down and use loctite. I've lost the top pusher and I can't find any place that sells them.
I use a Lad Weather LAD046. Lad Weather is a Japanese fashion brand that just started in 2009 at Kyoto. The watch is a Type B flieger with a Citizen Eco Drive radio synchronization movement. It costed me $100 from Amazon Japan.
Poljot 24 and a few other sellers still selling Strela, Aviator, Sturmanskie and Buran watches with the 3133 and 31689 (valjoux 7734) hand wind chronos. Some quite a lot over budget though. Those moments are getting thin on the ground now so they have started using the seagull st19s. I've had an aviator 31689 for years now and it still runs fine without ever having been serviced. One watch I'll never part with.
Hey Jody, nice vid. I recently bought a Butler GMT. Pilot watch designed by a pilot. American micro brand, Swiss made, sapphire, screw down crown, Swiss Rhonda quartz gmt movement, 100m wr. I got it for about $130 usd, used. I got it to replace my ailing vostok as a serious beater. Wears about the same as a Rolex explorer, but it is a 40mm. I believe the retail is 349 usd. Its a nice little watch. Regards.
I have the Casio and it’s great value at C$89 from Costco. Heavy either bracelet but great on a distressed rally strap! It scratches the Navitimer itch
I know I’ll be howled down ,but l have a parnis fliger for the last 2 yrs. Wear it every day, cost me $75 very reliable and spot on time wise,might have to adjust it once every 3 weeks it looses about 2 mins in that time. Excellent finishing and sapphire crystal. I can’t understand why they don’t get the expose they deserve. As for being a copy of something else, one must admit they all look similar.
There are just so many out there...I think of my lovely Geckota pilot watch (not the current flieger crop). It's elegant and beautiful, and just a solid workhorse with a bracelet from a brand who began on the strap and bracelet side. There's Torgen, while not my cuppa per se, who definitely cut a profile. And Vaer also makes some nice ones...in other words, if you want a pilot, you're covered from stem to stern.
Thanks for speaking up for the discomfort in wearing a watch-type ordered by Hermann Göring. Nothing wrong with appreciating the aesthetic, but there's definitely something dark there. In that context it's worth pointing out the Mk11 produced by Smiths/Timefactors (as well as my favourite pilot watch from that source, the Speedbird), which avoid the whiff of Luftwaffe. I do think that authenticity in a German flieger ought to come with the Frisbee size: close to the original dimensions. As to water resistance, enough Flieger ended up in the Channel and the North Sea to make some gaskets appropriate, if not exactly authentic. Nice survey!
The laco Aachen is a great watch it’s a daily for me. I have an addiesdive type a I got recently and it’s my “doing work around the house” watch. So comfortable and durable and very stylish too
Absolutely off topic, but I just found my very first watch which is tiny Timex manual wind child's watch. After more than 50 years, the leather band is deteriorated, but when I wound the watch, it actually started!!! Timex... takes a licking, and keeps on ticking!!! :-)
I cant really see the point of chronographs so I cant really come up with a sensible reason but if I was going to buy anything from your list it would be the Seagull with sapphire in the smaller size. It just has something about it.
Look ma! My Casio is on TV! I love love love the EF527d. My favorite watch in my collection, picked up one this past November. Talk about adding salt to the injury, Jody! I've been lusting after the Nighthawk for sometime now, but Jomashop is out of stock and I refuse to pay the Amazon/eBay prices. I prefer the standard version over the Blue Angels, but at $200 on a bracelet, I'm very tempted. Edit: Never mind, Starbuy doesn't ship internationally.
As a GA pilot and FI I find cluttered dials really hard to use. I want with my watch to be able to see the time easily with one glance. As for the nav calculator so many modern watches have I find them useless. They are so small and cumbersome to use that are a lot of better ways to do those calculations, like full-size slide calculators, digital ones and even your phone, and besides those calculations should be done before the flight not during. What I do find useful for navigation is a rotating bezel with minute markings. Chronographs are ok but I usually forget to turn it on or off.
Steeldive also do a nice IWC MK9 homage flieger for around 90 USD,surprised you weren't all over that one.200m water resistance and sapphire crystal...........................
Love pilot's watches! My heart goes with the more traditional fliegers, esp the Type Bs, but I also like the cluttered ones. I prefer the looks of most of the Seikos to the Citizens. I've had a couple Citizens but always end of selling them. I have a very similar Seiko and have a gold 4 sub dial which I've had forever. And those Edifices are amazing value! I nicked a white dial for $50 very gently used and lucked into a black dial for free that was included with a couple other watches. He listed it as non-working but sometimes they take a bit of tweaking to get a new battery to work. White dial and black dial versions for about $54 total. My heart's with the Laco though. 39mm blue dial Aachen Blaue Stunde B dial for me. Also have a 42mm Islander ISL-16 which is very nice, if a tad big for my wrist. I also kind of consider the Seiko SNKs to be a bit of a pilot/field hybrid. More of a field watch in use but clearly inspired by the B dial flieger.
I have the Skyhawk Blue Angels Citizen - similar looks but no stopwatch/radio/3 dials, it does have a large AM/PM hand. Nice watch but I should have bought the bracelet version too. The strap is still not broken in properly even after wearing for a good while and the watch doesn't sit comfy on my wrist. Pity, it doesn't happen often and it is a really nice watch
I just picked up a brand new Laco Aachen 42mm for £155. There's some kind of online outlet shop in the UK called Victoria Hyde selling what appear to be NOS non hacking versions of the type A and type B. Crazy low price for one of these.
"Blue Angel" is a special edition of select Citizens pilot watches. The skyhawk, nighthawk and navihawk all have blue angel editions. On another note, the "navihawk" that you featured was actually a blue angel edition nighthawk.
I am a pilot and I like pilots' watches, but honestly, I never use them for flying. My friend teaches 777 pilots, he does not wear a watch. I asked him and he said there are about 14 clocks in the cockpit.
I'm a Private Pilot and I never really use the watch for flying either. They might be useful as a backup for your backups or to easily see Zulu time compared to the weather reports during planning.
I'm just disappointed that no pilot watches thinks to come with a barometer. For non pressurized aircraft, it would be cool to get a backup altimeter and v/s indicator on your wrist, or even for pressurized aircraft, you could use it to see cabin altitude.
I think the term of pilots watch arcs back to ww2 pilots
Buzzkill!
Most airline pilots I see wear cheap timex’s
Tissot T-Touch and a whole selection of G-Shocks come with barometers. I have both and the T-Touch is a real standout, high quality watch. Definitely recommendable.
My preferences have changed over the years. When I was a youngster I prefered the very busy Blue Angel type pilot watches, but now that I am well aged and wise with poor eye sight, I really like the cleaner dials of the more traditional watches. Gotta love those Hamiltons. As always, great video.
I bought 2 Dekla pilot watches after your review of them. One for me and one for my son. We did a father/son trip to Germany and wanted to buy identical watches to commemorate the occasion. Thanks for the recommendation. We love them.
Only missed Escapement Time: amazing value for money
Agreed. I was about to make the same comment!
Agreed 👍
Agreed, I have mine on the wrist as I write this. Amazing value for money.
This is exactly what I was thinking. In my opinion it's the best value for money Flieger you can get.
Hear hear, amazing value and well made
TWCO Air Controller is my favourite today! Cracking looking watch, not too cluttered, excellent! Nice list of watches, Jody!
All these watches were fine (especially the Citizens). I hope to see my personal favorite pilot watch (Bulova Moonwatch - 96B258 $330 on Jomashop) in the future. It is a replica of one of the watches actually used by The NASA Apollo 15 mission in 1971. The new replica includes a special quartz movement that is as accurate as +-10 seconds in a whole year!
You really missed one of the best bang for buck brands: Escapement Time from Aliexpress (Type A and Type B). Amazing specs and quality, below USD 100.
I am not a diver buuuuttt! 90 % of my watches are divers 😂
I think we are all divers at heart.
Me either....
Divers are great because they are the toughest watches being water and shock resistant.
Me too, and I can't swim.
I'm fairly certain that 90% of the guys reviewing dive watches on youtube would drown in a foot of warm bathwater, lol
Quite ironically, my Addiesdive Flieger is my go to small and light watch at the moment.
This was the first Ali Express watch I got just 3 weeks ago. I wasn't sure if I'd like a fleiger so got this as it was cheap and I could try it out to see if I wanted a dearer one. Well, I loved the watch, it's very nice, stainless steel, sapphire crystal with AR coating great all night lume, and +3 spd with the NH35 movement....now I'm happy, don't feel the need to buy another one!
@@brianmsahin That’s all of the Flieger you’ll ever need!!
I also went with the bronze Steel Dive 1940 with sterile dial... (ironically not steel or a diver😁)
Chinese factory “brands” are upping their game, big time!👌
I picked up one of these after Jody's recent Aliexpress homage watches video, along with the upgraded clasp he recommended. I've most certainly not been disappointed, it's a great watch!
Last week I ordered the SteelDive Flieger (SD1940) which seems to be exactly the same watch. I got it directly from Steel Dive at www.steeldives.com for $99 USD. I added on a waffle strap (for another watch) to bring the total above the $99.99 required for free DHL shipping, which took 3 working days to get to Canada ! I love it. Nice brushed top and sides, NH35, sapphire crystal, screw down crown, classic Flieger Type-A style dial and 200m water-resistance .. incredible value for the $$$. - Michael
@@wmb2292 Value is hard, if not impossible to match - this is one tough, wearable watch...in some ways feels like “the poor man’s” Sinn 556!
Im wearing my Escapement Time Type A Flieger right now! Cracking watch!!
The main problem I have with a lot of modern pilot watches is that there is way too much on the dial, the citizen and seiko is even hard to look at cause there’s so much on the dial
Dials like Yema’s Flygraf are sooo much cleaner!
I have both, possibly a mistake as they are so similar, but everything is very clear. Perhaps you need glasses.
Nailed it, they’re too busy to be useful in flight.
@@mintywebb no they’re hard to look at cause they’re ugly when watches are too busy
Agree. I can’t tell the time for all the information.
Actually, the Casio has a very good, solid link bracelet. It's also listed at 45.5mm but that includes the crown, the watch has a 44mm diameter, just like the Duro. Should probably get it and review it, no good reviews for it on youtube yet.
Thanks for the info mate! On the list.
There is a NON-Edifice line slide rule chrono Casio that's currently running around 50 clams from Amazon.
@@mrz80 link?
Citizen is the most underrated brand, they're the best value for money.
I have a glycine f104 40mm and I find it's really nice....nobody ever reviews it and or shares my sentiments tho lol
Not really. Casio makes everything better than Citizen and still makes it less expensive than Citizen. Therefore, Casio is, by far, the best brand in the world regarding value for money.
@@damyr really...? Never seen any citizens with misaligned bezels, chapter rings, hands, etc. Meanwhile citizen had no problem in this regard.
@@RM-el3gw Yes, really. I never saw any Casio with such defects, either. But that doesn't mean they don't exist. The same goes for Citizen.
On the other hand, Jody made the video about a new Rolex watch who has such problems.
No brand is immune to some faults in production. And Casio is definitely not known to have such problems on regular basis. Actually, they even developed a special mechanism to take care about misalignment of second hand with indices, which they built into the best watch line in the world - Casio Oceanus.
@@damyr I would say Casio gives a little bit more bang for your buck, but Citizen often has better designs to my taste. Love them both though, and am a proud owner of a stunning Oceanus 🌊
I love my Laco and awaiting a Seagull from an AliExpress special
And you started with my favorite piece!! I've lusted after that 8020 Citizen for years!!!
Citizen is well represented in the Flieger business. I have a Seiko SNN231 on a seatbelt NATO, which is basically a IWC Pilot Chrono clone, and I like it a lot.
Love my Nighthawk / Navihawk. I initially bought it purely as it's a cheap GMT and thought I'd dislike the huge, busy dial, but I find I wear it far more often than any of my autos. It's running at about +1 second a month, too - super accurate.
That TWCO though... WANT
As a commercial pilot, I can confirm I wanted a watch with a clear easy to read dial that has a good lume... I have many watches varying from Breitling to Orient, and my go-to watch for work is the Orient pilot watch... Love the automatic movement and it has a clear, easy to read dial/lume
Love Citizen Eco-drives more and more! They are kind of pushing me from automatics to solar quartz being my favourite. 👏
Got a citizen ca7040 in blue as first pilot chrono for around 150 euros. a flieger look with ecodrive its unbeatable!
I still prefer automatics, but I have a radio controlled eco drive chronograph and it is in many ways the most impressive watch I've owned.
I have 2 ecos. Great every day watches and beaters.
How about top 10 pilots under $100? Corgeut, Addie's Dive, Escapement Time, Parnis, Phylida, etc....
Great review! Thanks Jody!!!
Great video Jody!! You missed the Escapement Time Flieger. An amazing value Chinese special! Definitely worth checking out for a top 10 Ali Express Pilot's episode :)
Stop buying Chinese crap.
@@toddgaak422 I think you're in the wrong place.......
I'm a pilot, and I always take up my Vostok amphibia or my Seagull 1963. They're both very legible, and it's always bumpy where I fly so legibility is important. After all, the less time spent with your head down trying to read something gives you more time to actually fly the plane
Also the Bulova Lunar Pilot.... Easily under $500....
That Hamilton Cooper is 🔥
A pilot is a glaring hole in my collection! I want one as bad as I need one. Great review as always Jody!!!
Happy to hear you are going to review more Citizen watches. Given your proximity to the Asian market I would love to see a Kuroshio ‘64. What a fantastic piece of horological history. Also, the NJ0100 series are a cool aviator style automatic offering from Citizen. They have the infamous Miyota 8210 movement in them but the one I own keeps great time and I find I wear it more often than my SNZG13.
A true display of patriotic timepieces by our AU friend on the other side of the world. Timepieces will always be a true display of unity -
Thank you Jody!
Jody, I am a pilot and I highly recommend it. There is no freer feeling in the world than being up in the air, even at just 5,000'. The dirty little secret about flying a plane is that it's actually EASIER than driving a car. That is not a joke or exaggeration because unlike cars, planes are designed to almost fly themselves. In a Cessna, you just hang a couple of fingers on your yoke and let the plane go. It's design is referred to as inherently "stable" which means that, without control input, its structural design forces it to fly straight and level as long as the engine provides adequate thrust.
Jody, I know it's cheaper to fly in Canada than in Australia but this is something that I really think that you need to try. Funnily enough, I'm also SCUBA-certified and I MUCH prefer dive watches to pilot watches. LOL
Great video Jody!!! I own the Citizen Blue Angels same model you reviewed here. Amazing watch although very difficult to navigate the functions as they are as you said “vast”. The one criticism is that strap deteriorates over time and I just recently bought a blue Rubber strap from Barton Watch Straps that after some difficulty attaching seems like it will hold up nicely. Thanks again keep up the great work!! Brian
The one I like the most is Laco. I'm going for it!
Whoever sent Jody an OU shirt is the real hero of this vid.... BOOMER
Sooner!
Citizen Avion should be on this list imo! Yes it's the biggest watch I own at 44.5mm but it's just a perfect combo flieger style watch. Easy to read, three hand date, cool blue liked hands, 100m wr and of course eco-drive!
I have had the Citizen Nighthawk for 10+ years. It started doing the two second skip and the mineral crystal was scratched. With some inexpensive tools from eBay I changed the capacitor and upgraded the crystal to double domed AR coated sapphire. Now like new and stunning.
What size was the crystal or where did you purchase yours from?
Escapement Time Type'b'. Sapphire crystal, fantastic lume, decent finishing, crown and case back, with (allegedly) 300m of water resistance! 🤯🤯🤯OK, I'm cynical of the water resistance but I love mine. Looks far and away more valuable than the pittance I paid for it on AliExpress 😊👍
Great one J. You did leave out some great Aliexpress deals. I purchased the Escapement Time Flieger (US $100), an amazing deal. The GEERVO also seems very interesting for the price (US $80).
My Parnis Flieger (Handwind) and my Escapement Time Flieger (Auto) are the two best value for money watches I have ever bought.
The AOPA Pilot's Chronograph from Jack Mason is an excellent buy. That said it's my first aviator watch. I have several dive watches though and it was the AOPA's rotating bezel that hooked me into the buy as I use that feature often to track an ETA at work on the fly - no pun intended. I just discovered your channel and love its title - JUST ONE MORE WATCH - as I seem to use it often following the purchase of my most recent timepiece.
You might want to add the Aristo 47mm Flieger, especially the sunburst blue dial. Absolutely gorgeous. I have mine on a Laco closed loop strap.
Oh my god, that TWCO is just stunning.
Oooh that Avi-8 Lafayette looks good. Learn something new with every video on this channel! Appreciation from India. Please rate Titan watches.
I have a Citizen Navihawk I wore for 15 years before I got into mechanical watches. It is tank, the glass got scratched over the years but it's still a great watch that works flawlessly.
Well, first of all, Boomer Sooner for the OU t-shirt! I was happy to see you start of with the Blue Angels watch you were wearing...I come from a family with a history in Naval service and I've seen the Blue Angels perform many times, going back to the early 60s. Oddly enough, I also happened to be wearing a pilot watch when I spotted this video, a Citizen Eco-Drive AW1361-10H. It's a modern take on the Type B Flieger. Nice looking and pretty affordable (although more expensive now on Amazon than when I bought it a couple of years ago). Pilot watches are one of my favorites, along with field watches. I like both the old school Fliegers and the modern chronographs, but prefer the Flieger aesthetic. Great video, thanks Jody!
Picked up the 1963 in 40mm sapphire. A big departure from my usual fare of automatic divers, but I love it. Hasn’t left my wrist since it arrived!
As an Oklahoman living in Norman, its nice to get some OU representation on JOMW.
The Citizen CA7047-Series is also a very good budget choice for a flieger chronograph.
I was going to mention that one too. There is a non-chrono version which has quite a different model number. Not sure if it’s current.
The Casio is a looker, and the bracelet is not too bad. It was my first serious watch 6 years ago, and still it beats on my wrist as I am writing this. Beware of the size though, 43mm diameter and 51mm L2L are not for everyone. I would have added the Citizen "the pilot" to the list: full titanium, perpetual calendar and all the typical goodies from top Citizens for 500€ when on promotion is something to take into account. Great vid Jody, greets from Spain!
Glycine Airman, Orient Pilot, Bulova Lunar Pilot, Citizen BJ7000 Nighthawk
The Citizen is a Nighthawk (I have one)... that Aussie site has it wrong. the Navihawk is the big big brother
Think I read that it’s marketed by different names in certain geographic regions.
I'd say Sinn 856 UTC is my fav pilot-style watch, but If we are under 500$, then my choice will be Junkers Cockpit JU52.
Another cracking top ten Jody. Love the Seagull 1963 although I have my eye on a Laco as well. Been honest though my Dan Henry 1963 nails it too.
Fantastic Fliegers all around, Jody! A great selection of one of my favourite styles, and I am looking forward to the reviews. Thanks for the video.
Glad to see the shirts made it in time for this video! Using one of them on a top 10 video is perfect... I'm going to share with my students because they're always asking about and looking for a good pilot watch. Great video... and Boomer Sooner!
Highly recommend you check out the Marathon Navigator. Tritium lume and actually used by US military. We have marathon clocks throughout our submarine. There are two versions of the navigator that now has a sapphire instead of hesalite.
It has fixed spring bars that can be lightly hammered out if you want to use spring bars. By design, it's only supposed to compatible with nato/zulu straps.
My only pilot watches are the Seiko 5 SNZG09 (though this is technically a field watch) and the Escapement Time Flieger Type B. The latter is currently in my daily rotation.
i traded my black duro with its black and grey nato strap for my edifice with the internal sliderule bezel, i loved my duro but i been wanting a ef-527 for a while now and i got it, i ran into a buddy who deals in watches so i gave him the duro and a case mini sodbuster for it. great deal
That twco looks clean and legible, the main reason why pilots watches are appealing imo. A lot look great with synthetic/nato straps too for a more casual look.
Late comment, worth also looking at the Escapement Time fliegers, great specs and £100 zone prices.....that Casio looks amazing value too tho...
Ah, I see everyone else has beaten me to it....
Excellent video as always Jody
Just wondered if you have an opinion on the Cincinnati Watch Company P 40M pilot watch? It’s within your budget limit and is powered by a Selitta manual wind.
I recommend the orient pilot. I have the blue one.
You were correct! Number 8 is the blue angels NIGHThawk. The website you show has a mistake in their listing. In the description you inserted from the website it is referred to as the blue angels nighthawk
I've been looking at the Yema Flygraf on the bracelet. Very nice watch with in-house movement.
I recently bought a Citizen Nighthawk CB0230-81E. It’s radio controlled, solar charged, sapphire, titanium and under €500 at the moment… great watch (made a few simple video’s with different straps)
Although I'm a big Hamilton fanboy, I must admit that my first choice would be number 2. The Laco.
Great review and some excellent pieces. Bulova A15 is also a worthy contender for this top 10.
May I call *Zeppelin* and *Junkers* 💪
Add some Iron Annie too
I've got an older Citizen Skyhawk Blue Angels, the ani/digi model. With a main dial, no less than 4 sub dials, 2 digi displays and the slide rule bezel it's utterly baffling in it's complexity. While in a way I love it for that absurd complexity, I rarely wear it and there have been many times where I've considered flipping it and using the proceeds to buy the Seiko. Thanks for reminding me!
Don't normally like big busy watches; but the Citizen Blue Angels has always captured my interest. I own it and love it.
Funny thing. I just bought a Citizen Skyhawk A-T right before seeing this video. It could be a another recommendation since you can find some for less than $500. I bought the leather strap Blue Angels one for $488 and it does have a sapphire crystal. I think the analog/digital aspect is awesome and it's definitely a travel watch with all the crazy timezones features.
My recommendation is a Nodus Sector Pilot. Such a neat little watch. I got a Sector Sport and I am waiting for my preferred colorway of the Sector Pilot to come back in stock.
Nice video, thanks. My problem with Laco is that they have admitted that their 'entry' level watches such as the one you show here are sources from Asia. So at the end, why not directly source ourselves from Asia, the 'EscapementTime', 'SanMartin' and 'steeldive' from ali are pretty much the same, you can choose between 40mm and 42mm, great finishing and at least you get the choice of nh35, pt5000 and sw200 for cheaper than what laco is selling.
A conundrum indeed John, and one that I touched on in a San Martin vid a while back. I guess if the brand name still matters, then Laco should be on any list.
@@JustOneMoreWatch you are correct, for those who care about the brand on an unbranded dial :)
As for your videos :) every time my wife listen to the famous 'Hellooo' sge directly says : you are not going to buy a new watch are you??? :))))
Just a word of warning regarding the Seagull 1968. Make sure the pushers are correctly screwed down and use loctite. I've lost the top pusher and I can't find any place that sells them.
I use a Lad Weather LAD046. Lad Weather is a Japanese fashion brand that just started in 2009 at Kyoto. The watch is a Type B flieger with a Citizen Eco Drive radio synchronization movement. It costed me $100 from Amazon Japan.
Poljot 24 and a few other sellers still selling Strela, Aviator, Sturmanskie and Buran watches with the 3133 and 31689 (valjoux 7734) hand wind chronos. Some quite a lot over budget though. Those moments are getting thin on the ground now so they have started using the seagull st19s. I've had an aviator 31689 for years now and it still runs fine without ever having been serviced. One watch I'll never part with.
I love my High Beat VH31 Alexander James 38mm Pilot watch. Beautiful brushed case, screw down crown and sapphire crystal and is super legible.
Hey Jody, nice vid. I recently bought a Butler GMT. Pilot watch designed by a pilot. American micro brand, Swiss made, sapphire, screw down crown, Swiss Rhonda quartz gmt movement, 100m wr. I got it for about $130 usd, used. I got it to replace my ailing vostok as a serious beater. Wears about the same as a Rolex explorer, but it is a 40mm. I believe the retail is 349 usd. Its a nice little watch. Regards.
A German friend of mine , Alexander recommended Dekla watches to me and I highly recommend a look at their Cali Military. Well worth a look.
Cheers Dave!
@@AlexanderB. I'm always grateful for good suggestions Alexander. Cheers mate 👍👌
@@davemck1887 Always enjoy chatting with you my friend!
@@AlexanderB. likewise mate.
@@davemck1887 You were excited about Damasko. Any plans for that matter?
I have the Casio and it’s great value at C$89 from Costco. Heavy either bracelet but great on a distressed rally strap! It scratches the Navitimer itch
I really like the hands on the Hamilton.
Also, the Escapement Time NH35 Flieger on AliExpress looks more than decent.
It's rubbish, I didn't keep mine for more than two days. I flipped it right away.
NH35? A sun dial would be more accurate.
@@kevinbarnbrook4728 Not been my experience, sorry you haven’t had a decent one.
@@simonbailey2151 I agree mine is nicely finished and runs on + 2 sec a day but to be honest it’s not a the same quality level as my Laco
@@LamarFaciane mmmmm0m
I know I’ll be howled down ,but l have a parnis fliger for the last 2 yrs. Wear it every day, cost me $75 very reliable and spot on time wise,might have to adjust it once every 3 weeks it looses about 2 mins in that time. Excellent finishing and sapphire crystal. I can’t understand why they don’t get the expose they deserve. As for being a copy of something else, one must admit they all look similar.
Jody, you never cease to dissappoint. Great videos, great commentary, great Jody. Keep it up brother.
There are just so many out there...I think of my lovely Geckota pilot watch (not the current flieger crop). It's elegant and beautiful, and just a solid workhorse with a bracelet from a brand who began on the strap and bracelet side. There's Torgen, while not my cuppa per se, who definitely cut a profile. And Vaer also makes some nice ones...in other words, if you want a pilot, you're covered from stem to stern.
Yes more Citizens! Incredibly quality and value.
That citizen blue angel chronograph is awesome. Definitely on the To Buy list!
Thanks for speaking up for the discomfort in wearing a watch-type ordered by Hermann Göring. Nothing wrong with appreciating the aesthetic, but there's definitely something dark there. In that context it's worth pointing out the Mk11 produced by Smiths/Timefactors (as well as my favourite pilot watch from that source, the Speedbird), which avoid the whiff of Luftwaffe. I do think that authenticity in a German flieger ought to come with the Frisbee size: close to the original dimensions. As to water resistance, enough Flieger ended up in the Channel and the North Sea to make some gaskets appropriate, if not exactly authentic.
Nice survey!
The laco Aachen is a great watch it’s a daily for me. I have an addiesdive type a I got recently and it’s my “doing work around the house” watch. So comfortable and durable and very stylish too
I would also throw in another Citizen - the AW1620. Type A Flieger with a date. Eco Drive, around 130 euros on a leather strap. Great everyday piece
Absolutely off topic, but I just found my very first watch which is tiny Timex manual wind child's watch. After more than 50 years, the leather band is deteriorated, but when I wound the watch, it actually started!!! Timex... takes a licking, and keeps on ticking!!! :-)
I cant really see the point of chronographs so I cant really come up with a sensible reason but if I was going to buy anything from your list it would be the Seagull with sapphire in the smaller size. It just has something about it.
It certainly does. I sold my first one, but regretted it and re-bought it with sapphire.
because they look cool!
@@NathanChisholm041 I would agree the Seagull certainly does look cool, can't say the same for many others.
Look ma! My Casio is on TV! I love love love the EF527d. My favorite watch in my collection, picked up one this past November.
Talk about adding salt to the injury, Jody! I've been lusting after the Nighthawk for sometime now, but Jomashop is out of stock and I refuse to pay the Amazon/eBay prices.
I prefer the standard version over the Blue Angels, but at $200 on a bracelet, I'm very tempted.
Edit: Never mind, Starbuy doesn't ship internationally.
As a GA pilot and FI I find cluttered dials really hard to use. I want with my watch to be able to see the time easily with one glance. As for the nav calculator so many modern watches have I find them useless. They are so small and cumbersome to use that are a lot of better ways to do those calculations, like full-size slide calculators, digital ones and even your phone, and besides those calculations should be done before the flight not during. What I do find useful for navigation is a rotating bezel with minute markings. Chronographs are ok but I usually forget to turn it on or off.
You should include the Yema Frygraf - it is actually made for the French air force.
Happy that Dekla from Stuttgart made it to the list. And Laco. Two companies not far away from me. Cheers.
Could add in Junkers and Messerschmitt fliegers.
Pity the Newmark 6BB didn’t make the list, although availability is a problem on this hugely popular chronograph.
I picked up the panda dial variant this week and it's outstanding!
NO Bulova A-15 ? ?? That's a near perfect retro pilot's /WW2 era beauty!! with a lovely price to boot! Check it out Jody!!!!
Yes! Coming to the channel soon, I promise.
@@JustOneMoreWatch 😊 Cant wait!!!!
Steeldive also do a nice IWC MK9 homage flieger for around 90 USD,surprised you weren't all over that one.200m water resistance and sapphire crystal...........................
No homages today, unless the Dekla counts?
@@JustOneMoreWatch Maybe later????????????
Love pilot's watches! My heart goes with the more traditional fliegers, esp the Type Bs, but I also like the cluttered ones. I prefer the looks of most of the Seikos to the Citizens. I've had a couple Citizens but always end of selling them. I have a very similar Seiko and have a gold 4 sub dial which I've had forever. And those Edifices are amazing value! I nicked a white dial for $50 very gently used and lucked into a black dial for free that was included with a couple other watches. He listed it as non-working but sometimes they take a bit of tweaking to get a new battery to work. White dial and black dial versions for about $54 total. My heart's with the Laco though. 39mm blue dial Aachen Blaue Stunde B dial for me. Also have a 42mm Islander ISL-16 which is very nice, if a tad big for my wrist. I also kind of consider the Seiko SNKs to be a bit of a pilot/field hybrid. More of a field watch in use but clearly inspired by the B dial flieger.
I have the Skyhawk Blue Angels Citizen - similar looks but no stopwatch/radio/3 dials, it does have a large AM/PM hand. Nice watch but I should have bought the bracelet version too. The strap is still not broken in properly even after wearing for a good while and the watch doesn't sit comfy on my wrist. Pity, it doesn't happen often and it is a really nice watch
I just picked up a brand new Laco Aachen 42mm for £155. There's some kind of online outlet shop in the UK called Victoria Hyde selling what appear to be NOS non hacking versions of the type A and type B. Crazy low price for one of these.
"Blue Angel" is a special edition of select Citizens pilot watches. The skyhawk, nighthawk and navihawk all have blue angel editions. On another note, the "navihawk" that you featured was actually a blue angel edition nighthawk.