What he does is not rocket science. You mount up an optic, shoot a couple thousand rounds with it, rack it off a post a few times, drop it a few times and see if it still works. No quantum physics required.
It's possible the engineering behind the near flush fit rear lens makes it easier to quickly swipe any crud or mud away without it getting compacted on the edges. Great review.
This. Shirt lint getting into the recesses of the optic is the main reason I want to upgrade. If I leave my rmr for more than a few days without wiping it the dot blooms like crazy.
@@ImperiumLibertasreally? That’s strange, I have quite a bit of time on my rmr and I have yet to clean or wipe the lens at all, it the dot is crisp as ever
That’s how the early Navy contract samples of the Tasco Super Snipers had their objective lens. The idea was to be able to flick the optic to shed and beaded up water.
@nathanskupowski4726 What do you do to keep crud down? I had an open emitter for 3 days and it was building up a decent amount of crud. EPSc has been much easier to live with.
The only review that matters. The "not an industry standard" the whole industry lives by and has adopted. Good job, and keep the youtube videos coming.
So what ya mean... it should be a "life standard" cause we all know in life shit happens. Lol 😂 "if something can happen, it will happen" words my friend gave me when I use to work in automotive and diesel vehicles. Weird crap all the time
Have you seen The Honest Outlaw's torture test on this optic? If not , it's worth watching. He beat it up. That optic is what all others will want to be baring any longevity issues.
The capstan screw is gonna go a long way to alleviate frustrations. Specifically the frustration of stripped heads galled threads, and finding the right size allen wrench 😂
I appreciated the effort when you posted the videos for free...and he still profited from that. However, when the only thing that matters is money, the reviews might still be good but no appreciation is necessary.
Always love when Aaron gives us some free content. I love my Holosun EPS Carry, so it's going to be hard to move over to Trijicon. Great video, anyhow.
@jesserobinson838 😂😂😂😂😂 I've beat the hell out of three 509Ts and two EPS's and they still work great. Had three RMRs that all quit or had the battery flicker issue.
I’ve always said the same thing about the blue lens filter in some RDS. When you’re running drills, you don’t see any blue filter. You are just focused on the target and red dot. Great job on the review. 🤙🏼🇺🇸
@@KSN2019 I’ve got the entire holosun line up already. 2x 508t’s 1x 509t a few 507c’s and even a 407c oh and one of the primary arms acss Vulcan 507’s. So….. needless to say. I already know what is out there and I carry one of my 3x rmr06’s every single day. I like holosun. They’re fantastic as well but I genuinely trust the trijicon stuff maybe it’s all placebo or some sort of thought process that really is unjustified but holosuns are on my fun stuff. Trijicon is on my legit stuff
Anyone complaining about price probably isn’t ever at risk of breaking an optic, but to anyone who the durability matters it’s worth the extra. And it’s like $560 for qualified professionals.
Thanks for posting Aaron. I ran an RMR for duty use for years but now carry a 507C for duty use bc I love the ACSS Vulcan reticle. No matter the angle of my presentation from a compromised position or stress level, finding the dot is almost guaranteed. I like closed emitters but don't trust the 509 due to fogging and internal moisture issues I've seen. Would be awesome if Trijicon & other manufacturers would do something similar to the Vulcan, especially in a closed emitter optic.
@jessegpresley Can be a crutch if you haven't put the time in without it but from a purely tactical perspective, it could be a lifesaver. i.e. if injured, presenting with off-hand, from a laying position etc
I know the majority of his video is on Patreon but I still don’t understand how this man doesn’t have much more subscribers. I watch a ton of reviews but I hold sage’s review with the highest regard. If it’s not sage approved then it’s not approved for me.
People who saw the t rex arms review on it where he was bashing optics reviews that have high round count or drop testing need to see what a REAL review looks like. Glad you put it on youtube
Both of my glocks are milled for RMRs, so it makes sense to stick with that foot print. I’ll eventually get one to replace the 407c on my G19. The 407c doesn’t work as well with my astigmatism compared to the RMR on my G17. I looked through a 509t and had the same problem. My astigmatism just doesn’t work with their emitter.
This is something I’ve been looking forward to. I have a couple of enclosed optics and I strongly believe this will replace 3 optics on my guns. Especially on my number one duty gun and my first edc that I always use and down the road get another for my second edc.
Both my pistols have the threaded bosses. I was curious if this would fit. Thanks for mentioning that right in the beginning. I'm happy the RMR footprint will live on. Still happy with my RMR Type 2s that I bought based off of your reviews. There is a Trijicon video showing how to torque these screws with an Allen wrench and a a supplied card that shows how much you torque is applied based on how much the wrench bends.
If there is a piece of gear that I am interested in, the first thing I do I check your channel to see if you have reviewed it. Another amazing and informative video!
I think they should include an inch pound spring type torque wrench (like the old bendy bar and pointer torque wrench) to torque the screws. It's probably too easy to over or under torque the screws.
I just mounted an RCR on an Agency AOS slide. I had to cut the raised posts down a couple of mm and I had to use #4-40 button head screws instead of the capstan screws. I also had to modify the allen key for the button head screws to make it fit in the small gap allotted for the capstan screw heads. Finally, it took a very long time to screw in because you only get about 15 degrees of movement with each turn. It works, though. I used loctite and estimated about 10 in/lbs of torque. We'll see if it loosens up.
Basically what was expected. I would say look thru it, or better yet, demo before purchasing if you have an astigmatism. Some find that the bluer the tint and smaller the dot makes the dot appear more of a starburst.
You can use a torque wrench on the screws designed for this. You’d have to adapt a torque wrench designed for spokes on a small wheel. Anyone who takes maintenance for their dirt bike seriously would likely have a good adjustable spoke torque wrench in their toolbox.
In regards to brightness levels, it is nice to have brighter dots for those who have eye damage from Optic Neuritis. Dots (light/color in general) are dimmer in my damaged eye vs my non damaged eye.
Good luck with Trijicon playing nice with others. They couldn't bother making the RMRCC work with the near universal Shield RMSC cut that 99% of companies use because it wasn't a "Trijicon solution."
Performed as expected. It kind of hurts my ocd that I’d want to figure out a way to use an actual torque wrench to tighten those mounting screws with proper Locktite of course. 🧐
Great video! I have an RMR now and generally love and trust it. One concern with it, however, is that the glass fogs when moving from cold to warm environments. Does the RCR solve that?
Thank you, Aaron! 🙏 Not trying to kiss your ass, but your white paper, and testing of new optics, helps me choose the best tool to defend my family. Appreciate the content!
That's good but I don't know why the buttons have to be so huge. And then if they are locked and you need to adjust on the fly, that could be an issue.
@@HWG-wm8ld Pretty sure this video demonstrated a scenario where you might need to adjust your brightness when certain lighting conditions change but ok.
Ok Aaron we get it. Trijicon great, yep, all good. We really need a burn down on the TST CHEMRAIL, if it’s 3000 mAh - 12A battery can handle it. Thanks guy. Doing great work.
Yeah I was wondering the same thing, I wonder if it got moisture on it if it would refract the light going in the sensor and cause some weird stuff to happen
I'd like to see how well it holds out moisture over time. That seems to be the main issue with enclosed models. Eventually they lose their seal and fog up inside.
The review I’ve been waiting for. You’re one of only a handful of optics reviewers I trust.
What he does is not rocket science. You mount up an optic, shoot a couple thousand rounds with it, rack it off a post a few times, drop it a few times and see if it still works. No quantum physics required.
The only for me.
Him and Honest Outlaw
Gawk gawk
@@rocc05rx8 sounds like you have lots of experience?
Really glad Aaron put this on TH-cam, hopefully he puts the RMR HD, on TH-cam as well.
I hope so, I won't run an optic till Aaron is done with it
He is trijicon is still depressed and crying right now from the pic he sent them of this 800$ After he was done with test only reason it’s not up yet
No they arent cope harder poor@@mattogle2582
It's possible the engineering behind the near flush fit rear lens makes it easier to quickly swipe any crud or mud away without it getting compacted on the edges. Great review.
This. Shirt lint getting into the recesses of the optic is the main reason I want to upgrade. If I leave my rmr for more than a few days without wiping it the dot blooms like crazy.
@@ImperiumLibertasreally? That’s strange, I have quite a bit of time on my rmr and I have yet to clean or wipe the lens at all, it the dot is crisp as ever
That’s how the early Navy contract samples of the Tasco Super Snipers had their objective lens.
The idea was to be able to flick the optic to shed and beaded up water.
I agree. The easier it is to wipe that rear lens, the better.
@nathanskupowski4726 What do you do to keep crud down? I had an open emitter for 3 days and it was building up a decent amount of crud.
EPSc has been much easier to live with.
The only review that matters.
The "not an industry standard" the whole industry lives by and has adopted.
Good job, and keep the youtube videos coming.
Lives *and dies* by. And for good reason
So what ya mean... it should be a "life standard" cause we all know in life shit happens. Lol
😂 "if something can happen, it will happen" words my friend gave me when I use to work in automotive and diesel vehicles. Weird crap all the time
Pretty sure they do internal testing way more extensive or at least most professional companies do
Have you seen The Honest Outlaw's torture test on this optic? If not , it's worth watching. He beat it up. That optic is what all others will want to be baring any longevity issues.
"Unless you are going to space to fight the sun.." Thank you, Aaron.
Space Force! Man your rockets! We're going to end this global warming once and for all! 😆
Finally a Trijicon RDS fit for mounting atop an ACOG ❤
……?
i'm throwing it on my vcog 1-8
The capstan screw is gonna go a long way to alleviate frustrations. Specifically the frustration of stripped heads galled threads, and finding the right size allen wrench 😂
Does it take a screenshot when you press both buttons simultaneously?
That is funny! You should get more likes!
No. But it emits a signal so law enforcement can find you in case you’re not carrying your phone.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thank you to Trijicon for bringing the burn down back to TH-cam.
Thank you so much for testing the different lighting conditions on one brightness setting, this gets overlooked by a lot of people
Glad to see you back here for another review.
Appreciate the time and effort you put into testing.
I appreciated the effort when you posted the videos for free...and he still profited from that. However, when the only thing that matters is money, the reviews might still be good but no appreciation is necessary.
I simple thank you would be appreciated.
Always love when Aaron gives us some free content. I love my Holosun EPS Carry, so it's going to be hard to move over to Trijicon. Great video, anyhow.
I’d stick with the eps they want way to much money for this if it was 400 I’d pick one up but not for 650
@@jesserobinson838 I get it but they need to take the price down to tops 450
@jesserobinson838 😂😂😂😂😂 I've beat the hell out of three 509Ts and two EPS's and they still work great. Had three RMRs that all quit or had the battery flicker issue.
@@jesserobinson838 goofball comment. Aaron himself has tested countless holosuns that all held up great. cHIneSe jUnk
Same I have a 508T and 509T on each of my handguns. I may switch to the RCR later but I will stick with my Holosuns for now.
I’ve always said the same thing about the blue lens filter in some RDS. When you’re running drills, you don’t see any blue filter. You are just focused on the target and red dot.
Great job on the review. 🤙🏼🇺🇸
I didn’t even noticed it until he addressed in the video lol,I’m not picky as long as it reliable and holds zero.
Thank you for coming back for us poor folks. Great video as always.
Thanks for putting this review out for free.
"People do drop guns."
Yes.
I dropped my Wilson Combat EDCX9 from chest height, on accident, and it landed squarely on the RMR. Good to go.
Dang...that full auto looks brutal.
I am really impressed with the new trijicon lineup. Can’t wait to get the rmrhd and the closed emitter.
Can’t blame ya, they are 5 years behind after all.
@@96kylardont have to do it first, just have to do it best
Can’t wait to waste $1700 😂. Just outfit all your pistols with Holosun and don’t look back
@@KSN2019 I’ve got the entire holosun line up already. 2x 508t’s 1x 509t a few 507c’s and even a 407c oh and one of the primary arms acss Vulcan 507’s. So….. needless to say. I already know what is out there and I carry one of my 3x rmr06’s every single day. I like holosun. They’re fantastic as well but I genuinely trust the trijicon stuff maybe it’s all placebo or some sort of thought process that really is unjustified but holosuns are on my fun stuff. Trijicon is on my legit stuff
Anyone complaining about price probably isn’t ever at risk of breaking an optic, but to anyone who the durability matters it’s worth the extra. And it’s like $560 for qualified professionals.
I always appreciate your thorough test and reviews.
Thank you for putting this one on YT!
Oh boy I've been waiting for this one. Thank you for releasing this one for the poors.
Thanks for posting Aaron. I ran an RMR for duty use for years but now carry a 507C for duty use bc I love the ACSS Vulcan reticle. No matter the angle of my presentation from a compromised position or stress level, finding the dot is almost guaranteed. I like closed emitters but don't trust the 509 due to fogging and internal moisture issues I've seen. Would be awesome if Trijicon & other manufacturers would do something similar to the Vulcan, especially in a closed emitter optic.
I think we were lucky to get anything from trijicon.. 😂
the ACSS is a crutch and slow.
@jessegpresley Can be a crutch if you haven't put the time in without it but from a purely tactical perspective, it could be a lifesaver. i.e. if injured, presenting with off-hand, from a laying position etc
Exactly what I expected, and I truly respect and appreciate your preliminary review. Thank you.
I know the majority of his video is on Patreon but I still don’t understand how this man doesn’t have much more subscribers. I watch a ton of reviews but I hold sage’s review with the highest regard. If it’s not sage approved then it’s not approved for me.
very good on Trijicon in keeping that mount footprint! A+
People who saw the t rex arms review on it where he was bashing optics reviews that have high round count or drop testing need to see what a REAL review looks like.
Glad you put it on youtube
I will NEVER tire of the 500rd burn down playback speed 😎👍🏼. Great review, Sir! 🫡
Both of my glocks are milled for RMRs, so it makes sense to stick with that foot print. I’ll eventually get one to replace the 407c on my G19. The 407c doesn’t work as well with my astigmatism compared to the RMR on my G17.
I looked through a 509t and had the same problem. My astigmatism just doesn’t work with their emitter.
Sell price $645. Thanks for the review. Can’t wait for mine Q4 timeframe. I buy Trijicon for the durability and their kickass warranty repair.
I have carried my RCR on my Chambers for a Month now. I do lock the dot intensity for sure. I love the big buttons honestly.
This is something I’ve been looking forward to. I have a couple of enclosed optics and I strongly believe this will replace 3 optics on my guns. Especially on my number one duty gun and my first edc that I always use and down the road get another for my second edc.
What we’ve all been waiting for. Thank you!!!
Thank you sir! Your knowledge and insight is invaluable to us!
I don’t hold near as much weight in anyone else’s reviews like I do yours, great work!
Both my pistols have the threaded bosses. I was curious if this would fit. Thanks for mentioning that right in the beginning.
I'm happy the RMR footprint will live on.
Still happy with my RMR Type 2s that I bought based off of your reviews.
There is a Trijicon video showing how to torque these screws with an Allen wrench and a a supplied card that shows how much you torque is applied based on how much the wrench bends.
Once my dept gets our optic ready handguns this’ll be my go to
@@HWG-wm8ld promise?
🇺🇸
Just what we needed.... Aron's test!
Now for the HD and I'll be able to make a choice!
dang that was a seriously quick burndown
Love your consistency and honesty.
I’m eager to get one of these to replace the RMR on top of my ACOG.
If there is a piece of gear that I am interested in, the first thing I do I check your channel to see if you have reviewed it. Another amazing and informative video!
I think they should include an inch pound spring type torque wrench (like the old bendy bar and pointer torque wrench) to torque the screws. It's probably too easy to over or under torque the screws.
Been waiting for your review, did not disappoint! Thank you!
I do appreciate your videos on TH-cam
I just mounted an RCR on an Agency AOS slide. I had to cut the raised posts down a couple of mm and I had to use #4-40 button head screws instead of the capstan screws. I also had to modify the allen key for the button head screws to make it fit in the small gap allotted for the capstan screw heads. Finally, it took a very long time to screw in because you only get about 15 degrees of movement with each turn. It works, though. I used loctite and estimated about 10 in/lbs of torque. We'll see if it loosens up.
the only optic reviewer i care about
I’m hoping Zev figures out something to work with their style of RMR cut. If not, guess it’s two RMR HDs for me 😂
The entire industry has been waiting on this 👌
😂
Thank you for posting this on here for us free loaders.
Yup I’m sold. Going to get one mounted atop my TA02.
Thanks for posting this here.
Basically what was expected. I would say look thru it, or better yet, demo before purchasing if you have an astigmatism. Some find that the bluer the tint and smaller the dot makes the dot appear more of a starburst.
Good stuff! This is the first I'd even heard of this optic, very coo.
You can use a torque wrench on the screws designed for this. You’d have to adapt a torque wrench designed for spokes on a small wheel. Anyone who takes maintenance for their dirt bike seriously would likely have a good adjustable spoke torque wrench in their toolbox.
In regards to brightness levels, it is nice to have brighter dots for those who have eye damage from Optic Neuritis. Dots (light/color in general) are dimmer in my damaged eye vs my non damaged eye.
That setup in the background looks sick.
Thanks for the review. I decided to get the rcr. So far its a great little dot. Just make sure you use loctite on the threads
Thanks for uploading to TH-cam!
How do you like the RCR compared to the 509T and Acro P2?
Would you recommend this or the P2 if you had to pick?
Aww man he’s back!
They need to offer a model that has the ACRO or 509T footprint too. The future doesn’t involve relying on screws to withstand recoil.
The thing is that trijicon sucks 💯
Good luck with Trijicon playing nice with others. They couldn't bother making the RMRCC work with the near universal Shield RMSC cut that 99% of companies use because it wasn't a "Trijicon solution."
the elysium chemrail behind you is sick
The pricetag on these really makes me want an EPS
Great informative review. I understand Trijicon provides a torque guide for the capstan screws. I'm definitely going to try this optic out.
Performed as expected. It kind of hurts my ocd that I’d want to figure out a way to use an actual torque wrench to tighten those mounting screws with proper Locktite of course. 🧐
Always a pleasure Mr.Cowan
Didn’t even waste my time with other reviews until this came out.
16:29 wow dropping it IMPROVES zero 😮
Great video! I have an RMR now and generally love and trust it. One concern with it, however, is that the glass fogs when moving from cold to warm environments. Does the RCR solve that?
I love that it takes a 2032. Most the other micro dots or enclosed emitters are 1620's or whatever other uncommon battery
Great content, just wish I could support you on patreon. I miss the regular unbiased information. Thank you for this though!
Thank you, Aaron! 🙏 Not trying to kiss your ass, but your white paper, and testing of new optics, helps me choose the best tool to defend my family. Appreciate the content!
@@HWG-wm8ld Although I’ve yet to take a SD class, I take on average 2-3 courses/ year so I’m far from untrained. Thx for your suggestion!
Thank you for this review! 😎
Great review. Most of the negs you mention are being addressed by a new optic I saw. CUDA 795. New company I would love to see you review.
If you use a 1/4” drive petcock socket and a torque wrench you can place a pin or Allen key in the socket and torque the screws.
Those of us with self diagnosed OCD appreciate this haha
@@calishark408_3 lol. It would drive me insane if I couldn’t torque the screws.
The buttons have a “lock” feature once you set your brightness you can lock the button so it will not change if bumped.
That's good but I don't know why the buttons have to be so huge. And then if they are locked and you need to adjust on the fly, that could be an issue.
@@arsenal_616for gloved fingers
@@HWG-wm8ld Pretty sure this video demonstrated a scenario where you might need to adjust your brightness when certain lighting conditions change but ok.
Coming out of the dark into the light..
Hahahahaha! I love the fact you have a Chemrail prop mounted on the wall! Now we need an Elysium AKM.
How do you not have more subs? That was easily the most comprehensive optics review I've ever seen.
I’ve been waiting on this one.
Been waiting for your opinion on this Red Dot.
Great video sir! Wish I could afford one of these. Could you possibly do a review on the Hex Dragonfly?
Great review Mr. Aaron! I'll stick with my holosun enclosed for much cheaper but essentially equal performance and reliability.
You know it isn’t equal, that’s why you felt the need to post it😂
Its not equal haha
The big question, for me, is it made in China like some of their new scopes?
Great review, Aaron! Thanks!
Thank you for this review. Good stuff...
been waiting a while for it.
I already ordered one and the RMR HD. Trijicon makes the best quality red dots.
Thank you Aaron
Ok Aaron we get it. Trijicon great, yep, all good. We really need a burn down on the TST CHEMRAIL, if it’s 3000 mAh - 12A battery can handle it. Thanks guy. Doing great work.
If the forward facing light sensor on RMR HD gets dirt or mud in it does that crank up the auto brightness? Could be a drawback of that system.
Yeah I was wondering the same thing, I wonder if it got moisture on it if it would refract the light going in the sensor and cause some weird stuff to happen
Thanks Aaron!
Hey aaron are those vector mags you were using in the burndown B roll
Just waiting for the cloud pistol light review
I was to for 3 years then I moved on
Cloud pistol light isn’t even out yet. They’re in over their heads with pushing too many products at once
@@Tragic387 there’s rumors that they sent some out for testing but if it’s not better then the x300 or tlr lights what the point
How is it that the Aimpoint ACRO looks good but the Trijicon RCR looks like a Fisher Price my first RDS?
How is fogging ? I live in an environment where indoors maybe 72-74 degrees then outside its 105 degrees.
i just hope it doesnt fog up ever
RCR or Acro P2? I think that is what people want to know. I think it just comes down to footprint at this point
Buttons and objective window visibility go to RCR. Mounting system goes to Acro. Durability and reliability most likely to RCR.
I'd like to see how well it holds out moisture over time. That seems to be the main issue with enclosed models. Eventually they lose their seal and fog up inside.