I can imagine Holosun employees sitting in a big room with a giant projector screen all huddled around, nervously holding an arm around the person next to them as they watch Aaron's reviews
I skipped to the end and heard "Big Pass" and Said "FCK!!! SERIOUSLY?! ITS NO GOOD?!" Then watched it again and realized what he meant. Pass/fail. Not I'm gonna pass. Haha. Faith restored.
They are killing all other Red Dot manufacturers. What is a very affordable for is also very durable and various optic variations. Why would anyone what anything more expensive and typically not very durable and features are limited......
@@J3o3 maybe all the military contracts and Leo contracts? Either way I've seen rmr's go bad battery connectors break or sealing plates fail. Shit happens
Hard to ignore what they're doing, and Aaron should be getting fat checks from them because his tests have opened the door for the serious shooting crowd to take them serious. And that is a huge market. I've got an RMR on my Shadow Systems 19 and my G45 is milled for an RMR. It's most likely getting a Holosun 507c.
Agree wholeheartedly. Good dots are expensive and if your guns aren't already milled, there's even more expense to make them ready (besides milling, good sights and potentially needing to source quality screws, as well as the ammo to learn and practice a new sighting system). I'm not spending that money unless it makes Aaron's approved list.
@@gunsandcommissions yep, getting a slide milled and acquiring a dot is the equivalent cost of an entirely new pistol in most cases so it’s definitely a decision you want to be sure about.
Really agree that it's nice these are starting to get "mundane". I had to rewind when he mentioned that he's almost up to 15,000 rounds with his 509T. It's stuff like that which really solidify to me that these are reliable optics - no one else demonstrates that on TH-cam, and it really helps the consumers in my mind when there is this sort of research being done.
@@legionp229saoconvertedme4 the only thing they really have to say is "bUt MuH cHiNa bAd". And they type that out on a phone made in a sweat shop. When their hypocrisy isn't blindly apparent to them then I believe they invalidate their own "point". Also, it's the same people that claim to run nothing but aimpoint or trijicon. 2 companies that couldn't care less about them or what they want and that would stop selling to civilians at any moment for a govt contract. Hate is one thing if you're speaking facts about actual quality or whatnot. But it means absolutely nothing of its based on anything other that quality really. Trijicon still won't even add a top load battery to the rmr. Something that's 100% obviously doable because the sro has a top load. Trijicon doesn't care about what you want as a consumer. Aimpoint made a shitty acro the first try, and now it seems like they're using the consumer as beta testers for the p2 because they will not fully release them. They're being released in very small numbers every month or so. And i just saw a post the other day on reddit with a p2 that was fogging from the inside. Aimpoint doesn't give a damn about the civilian consumer market. Just like trijicon, their bread and butter is govt contracts. And that's not going to change. I'm worried sig is about to turn into the samething as a company. Only really worried about getting and fulfilling govt contracts.
@@legionp229saoconvertedme4 Because for so many, their gear is a religion. It's elitism. That's why I like Aaron so much. He has a scientific approach and when the data showed that the holosuns are pretty tough, he wasn't afraid to adapt to the new tech. He's not married to an RMR, Aimpoint and ACOG as if they are the only options out there.. I love that.
I don’t know why I have never clicked on Sage Dynamics videos. I always see them when looking at reviews, training, etc. This is the first one I’ve watched, awesome video. This has to be one of the best red dot reviews I have ever watched. If this same format extends across all of their reviewed equipment, I’m in. They have a new subscriber and fan, keep up the great work!!!
Aron says he's not the end all standard in pistol optics testing.....but we are all here because we think differently about that! Great review again Aron! 👍
Aaron, you are a gentleman and a scholar. Appreciate the consistent dedication to the absolute best pistol red dot reviews out there. I for one will absolutely be moving over to Patreon with you next year.
@@ronnguyen8287 never seen that. Granted I have a decent astigmatism. It’s not bad enough for it to affect my shooting except in darkness but it’s still noticeable soooo my reticle dare all distorted by default for me hahah
People can hate on Holosun all they want but they're becoming THE choice for handgun red dots. They listen and innovate and do what they can to get something we want, the little things like including several screw sets sets them apart for sure.
I have 4 different Holosun optics and they’ve all been great! I take appreciate the amount of features they pack into them and then price them so there is basically an option for anyone!
At 0:57 there is a wonderful close up of you shooting multiple targets. If you ever wanted a training tool of “follow your eyes to the next target,” this is it. You clearly can see your eyes transitioning to the next target with movement of the gun and shots following shortly thereafter. I’ll be using it for show and tell today. Thanks Aaron.
Great review, thank you Aaron. It's a pity Trijicon can't keep up with a similar R&D pattern to keep up with market developments like Holosun is just simply cruising through and bringing to market. Nevertheless, we are likely to stick with the Holosun SCS and hope to host you in the new year, if possible, when we're ready to field those units.
Honestly, I think we can all agree that the fastest guns available are open race guns, and dots on those sit at an height everyone would consider unacceptable on a slide ride dot. It’s just a matter of shooting style as you said. Great work by the way, thanks for the service you provide to everyone in the market for a dot.
I think that the desire for lower mounts, or co-witness w/o suppressor height sights, is so the folks who know irons can -- in their minds -- skip the RDS learning curve. They still have to learn to stop looking for the front sight post. They don't realize they aren't making it any easier, no matter what their "theory" might suggest. When all you do is index your eyes to the target and present the pistol with the dot in the way, it doesn't matter at what (reasonable) height the optic window sits. Funny how at the same time everyone wants to LARP with NV etc and raise their optics on their rifles, they are screaming to lower them on the pistol. So much rookiedom.
@@seanoneil277 completely agree. The only reasonable argument to lower the optic is to co-witness standard-height irons, as higher front sights often mess up holster compatibility.
Well, I will definitely miss your TH-cam content. One of my favorite TH-cam channels, with a ton of absolutely invaluable information. Sorry to see you go sir. Wishing you all the best over on Patreon though.
This is how an enclosed optic should look in 2024 and going foward, Also that's it's so low and you don't need hi iron sights is the way And lastly it's awesome how holosun is slide matching the optics to the cuts on the gun it's going on and trying to colour match is a really nice move.
6:39 An optic that sits low in the gun is only better (regarding handguns). Sure, you may not ever felt you "needed" it but it does more than just allow co-witness with standard height sights. It also gives you a slighter bigger window (for same height), also gives you less height for the same window (less snag and better for CCW, less printing, etc...). It actually is a huge Pro despite the simple change.
It's virtually insignificant. You're splitting hairs over preference. If you take away the bias and just go off of objective advantage, it's not really changing anything. The best thing about it is that your irons already work as a co-witness and you don't have to get new one's. That to me is not a small thing, and make's the "lower mounting" very appealing and a nice bonus. But I already have a 509T mounted direct on a dedicated optic rail; and I actually prefer it even more, because of the clamp style mounting, just like a 1913 rail.. I never did jump on board the 'micro" pistol ban wagon.. but this thing (and/or EPS Carry), is really making me want to go ahead and grab one. Most likely a p365
For me, it's a big game of muscle memory.... When the optic is mounted lower, the dot comes up exactly where your irons would when u present your pistol on target. Whether using an optic or not, I can draw the same way same everything... And whether I'm using irons or an optic, it's shows it's self in my sight line every time. That's why I like lower mounted optics
Best value on TH-cam is Aaron. I love that there is a gun channel that doesn’t shove down your throat to like and subscribe. I only trust my barber…And Sage Dynamics.
Understand you’re not a professional TH-camr, but appreciate your videos. Equipment is very expensive and good to see items I might buy well tested so that I can make informed purchases.
The best part about the EPS and EPS carry are that they use the same footprint. For guys deep in other footprints it may be hard to accept, but this could be THE awaited chosen standard footprint. The one to rule them all.
Glad a company made something like this. I have a Canik Mete and it requires a micro footprint. I want a dot but don't want a micro on a full sized pistol. The eps is the way I will go.
Speaking as an ACRO guy, I think a Glock milled for one of these with the rear iron in front of the optic would be fantastic carrying appendix. That drop off would help break up the silhouette. The rear edge of my ACROs always catch on my shirts
I like my eps. First one I got had a small crack on the left bottom corner of the back glass. Not right on the corner but a little offset. I didn’t notice it until I mounted it on my pistol. Also one of the screws was stripped so I had to use one I had. It was a bummer but I’ve only had good luck with Holosun and this was a very early one. Biggest problem was getting it replaced due to availability. Got my new one and everything worked great as all my other Holosun products have. Every company gets lemons every once in a while and I would assume Holosun produces a lot of optics. My new one functions as good as my other optics and wouldn’t let my first one turn me off of the eps. I like the size while getting an enclosed optic. Basically the same size as my 507, but lower and enclosed. Only thing to be aware of is finding the right one can be a bit confusing. Mostly due to the website that has it listed. Make sure you get the one you want (eps or eps carry).
This is exciting for me because you can mill an m&p 2.0 for the K footprint and use the standard iron sight and dovetail instead of having to mill a Glock dovetail for the rear and get a mismatched set of sights.
Probably singing to the preacher, but Swampfox has neat "problem solver" screw kit. Reasonably priced and IIRC shipping was free or ACTUAL first class (like a dollar or something...??). Just throwing it out there for those that don't know. Worth it to pick one up and have them on hand 🤙
I just got the Mossberg 940 Pro Tactical that’s direct milled for this footprint optic. I’m anxiously checking everyday to see when they’re finally available. I’ve always wanted to use the ring only reticle on a shotgun lol
I spent the first 16 minutes of the video wondering what the adapter plate/system was. In case you're somewhere earlier in the video and wondering the same thing: it's an Agency Arms "AOS" plate (although I don't yet see an option for the Holosun 'k' footprint on their site), specifically for their AOS slide cut. Side note: Aaron, if you're reading this, I realize beggars can't be choosers but some constructive criticism I have would be to add a quick overview in the beginning of these types of videos of the gun used to test the product and a disclosure of your relationship with the manufacturer of the product tested/reviewed. Of course, none of this feedback is discounting the value of the content you produce and share--thank you, sir!
Just bought the eps mrs in green. Can't wait to mount it on my CZ-P10C. I was wondering if you'd ever review a Cyelee pistol red dot? I figured I'd ask since there's a lot of people reviewing and recommending them. Thanks.
Great review. Holosun is the only option for the new S&W 5.7 and it looks like they picked the right sight. Love that it sits low and I don’t have to spend $100 on suppressor sights.
I've been trying to get one of these since I saw them previewed at Shot last year... on several wait lists but still can't get one. I'm glad it met your tests and standards!!
Off topic, but I'd like to know which mag extensions you're using and which ones would you recommend? Maybe another video with some drop testing of the different popular mag extensions 🤔?
Also, for a good while now, I've seen a lot of content creators moving to Patreon. None of them have inspired me to sign up for it. This channel will be what does it for me.
Now August, 2023, 9 months after this review, I'm thinking about buying an EPS Carry. Before I do, it would be good to know if Holosun will be coming out with a newer model within the next year or two. Would hate to buy now, only to learn that a new version is coming out soon.
I think the “want it lower, want it lower“ thing isn’t because of presentation/comfort, sitting lower does let you use your oem/or not as high irons and cowitness. I also think a lot of that comes from the use of plates vs paying for a custom cut/milled slide. It seems you don’t care about back up/cowitness irons, but many, like myself do. And call me a whatever, but wont carry a rig, runnin a dot with out usable irons. To each their own. Also, and it’s is a thing, but a lower optic just “looks” better. When the v1 acro dropped, the only thing everyone even talked about was how bulky, dorky, and cumbersome it looked. That said, what a rad time to be into any mrd. The small issues or complaints of a while back are getting addressed, quality and durability are way way up vs yesteryears offerings, price is down, choice is up, battery life is up, nothing but positives all around and it benefits everyone. Great work Aaron. And happy learning/growing all.
@4:50 no, no, no, Aaron... You are, in fact the definitive decider when it comes to red dot use. I don't buy a damn thing without your stamp of approval.
With all the features of the EPS, from the side battery compartment to the solar failsafe, what would you say is "better", RMR or EPS???? One is $150-200 more, has far less features, need to remove to change battery, has a tiny lens, but is proven and reliable; while the other is modern, exciting, functional, and packed with features for 1/4 less in price. I could really use your opinion(s)!!! Thank you
I have an EPS on an MOS G34. You CAN still see the irons. It’s a functional view if you really need it, however, there are other “my optic went down” methods that don’t require irons.
@@silverforever15 like I said, it’s a “functional” view. Not like with the SCS where you see the whole sight. It’s the top half but you could use them.
Whoever's reading this, i pray that whatever you're going through gets better and whatever you're struggling with or worrying about is going to be fine and that everyone has a fantastic day! Amen
Thanks Aaron! Long time sub, first time commenter... Great info, awesome as always. I've purchased 3 dots based off of your tests. Wondering if you have looked into testing the Bul Armory MS series?
My favorite part of this video is 14:34 seeing the concrete blocks being broken and busted in the middle where he is dropping optics on them. My not so favorite part is at 17:03!
Still waiting for my green MRS version to arrive direct from Holosun. It's been on backorder since July... I have all black Ameriglo Defoor GT-504 sights for backup
Love your videos however, I do believe you prefer a lower optic on the gun. Reference you Agency AOS plate video where you praised how low the optic sat compared to the GLOCK MOS plate. Also your Staccato P video where your only criticism was how high the plate made the optic sat. I know opinion change and that could be the case here. I prefer lower optics so I don’t have to worry about mechanical off set at closer distances.
I would very much like to see your 25 yard bagged setup. I chased the living hell out of my 25 yard zero... 1 dollar a round was damned expensive. And MANY dollars were wasted. A tear was shed. Please and thank you.
I feel ya on the zero $. But 25 yards is unnecessary. 10-15 is ideal. Your shooting a pistol hopes of a self defense encounter DOES NOT HAPPEN. Why add an offset unless you plan to shoot 100 + yards with a handgun. 99% of peeps fall into the no point category given the unlikely scenario vs the beyond unlikely scenario.
I thought that after Mr. Dickens stopped that mass shooter (armed with a rifle) by engaging him with his carry Glock from 40 yards away that we stopped this fudd lore about not going past 25 yards with a pistol.
While I understand your reasoning for going to Patreon and don’t blame you one bit… it saddens me in that right now, with inflation, we are pinching pennies. Cut out streaming services, etc. in order to save money. So, I won’t be watching the new videos until things improve. Do wish you the best though! Good luck and God Bless!
No ACSS Vulcan. No tech from the SCS. No buy. We want: -titanium body -enclosed emitter -acss Vulcan reticle -small footprint -auto brightness tech from SCS Holosun needs to stop fucking around giving us incremental updates & release a 509t like green reticle with SCS technology and Primary Arms, LLC Vulcan ACSS reticle in it. But instead we get the SCS this year. Next year we'll get an SCS with Vulcan reticle. Year after that we'll get a 509t with SCS technology on it. Then finally we'll get the holy grail the year after that. Tired of them milking this shit like apple does. Release the holy grail now.
I was thinking the same thing. They released the 509 ACCS Vulcan right when they announce the EPS and EPS Carry, why not just put the ACCS Vulcan in those instead of the out dated 509?
Great video! I’m new to red dots, and a bit confused. I have a Glock 19 MOS. Could I mount the EPS to my MOS with a 507k C&H precision plate? Or does the plate have to be specifically for the EPS?
I noticed that you are wearing an armband with a white pad. is this for tennis elbow? I suffer from that a lot and wondering how much that band helps if in fact that's the reason you're wearing it.
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I can imagine Holosun employees sitting in a big room with a giant projector screen all huddled around, nervously holding an arm around the person next to them as they watch Aaron's reviews
Like a NASA launch
They all have their ties around their heads
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Haha. Love this post.s
I skipped to the end and heard "Big Pass" and Said "FCK!!! SERIOUSLY?! ITS NO GOOD?!"
Then watched it again and realized what he meant. Pass/fail. Not I'm gonna pass. Haha. Faith restored.
The fact that they basically took a 509T and packed it into an existing footprint is just genius. They continue to pull ahead
They are killing all other Red Dot manufacturers. What is a very affordable for is also very durable and various optic variations. Why would anyone what anything more expensive and typically not very durable and features are limited......
@@J3o3 maybe all the military contracts and Leo contracts? Either way I've seen rmr's go bad battery connectors break or sealing plates fail. Shit happens
@@J3o3 I've seen an Trijicon RMR and DeltaPoint fail... don't mean they ain't good optics bud 🙄
Hard to ignore what they're doing, and Aaron should be getting fat checks from them because his tests have opened the door for the serious shooting crowd to take them serious. And that is a huge market.
I've got an RMR on my Shadow Systems 19 and my G45 is milled for an RMR. It's most likely getting a Holosun 507c.
Do you by chance know if the EPS will fit Safariland 7 series holsters for the 509t?
So glad you decided to make videos on the EPS and EPS carry. I and many others won’t even consider a pistol dot without your blessing. Thanks Aaron 😁
Agree wholeheartedly. Good dots are expensive and if your guns aren't already milled, there's even more expense to make them ready (besides milling, good sights and potentially needing to source quality screws, as well as the ammo to learn and practice a new sighting system).
I'm not spending that money unless it makes Aaron's approved list.
@@gunsandcommissions yep, getting a slide milled and acquiring a dot is the equivalent cost of an entirely new pistol in most cases so it’s definitely a decision you want to be sure about.
His review(s) are why I got a 509.
@@DanE-ew1yt Same, but 407.
@@DanE-ew1yt me too. 509T X2 and ACRO P2
I love that these reviews are becoming more "boring". The optics are working. Wonderful. Keep them coming. Appreciated!
Sounds like poems to my ears.
Really agree that it's nice these are starting to get "mundane". I had to rewind when he mentioned that he's almost up to 15,000 rounds with his 509T. It's stuff like that which really solidify to me that these are reliable optics - no one else demonstrates that on TH-cam, and it really helps the consumers in my mind when there is this sort of research being done.
As I am reading this he’s saying the word boring 😂
Holosun has made a mark in the industry
And they get so much hate I just don't understand
@@legionp229saoconvertedme4 that's cause people need something to complain about lol
@@legionp229saoconvertedme4 the only thing they really have to say is "bUt MuH cHiNa bAd". And they type that out on a phone made in a sweat shop. When their hypocrisy isn't blindly apparent to them then I believe they invalidate their own "point".
Also, it's the same people that claim to run nothing but aimpoint or trijicon. 2 companies that couldn't care less about them or what they want and that would stop selling to civilians at any moment for a govt contract.
Hate is one thing if you're speaking facts about actual quality or whatnot. But it means absolutely nothing of its based on anything other that quality really.
Trijicon still won't even add a top load battery to the rmr. Something that's 100% obviously doable because the sro has a top load. Trijicon doesn't care about what you want as a consumer.
Aimpoint made a shitty acro the first try, and now it seems like they're using the consumer as beta testers for the p2 because they will not fully release them. They're being released in very small numbers every month or so. And i just saw a post the other day on reddit with a p2 that was fogging from the inside. Aimpoint doesn't give a damn about the civilian consumer market. Just like trijicon, their bread and butter is govt contracts. And that's not going to change. I'm worried sig is about to turn into the samething as a company. Only really worried about getting and fulfilling govt contracts.
@@legionp229saoconvertedme4 Because for so many, their gear is a religion. It's elitism. That's why I like Aaron so much. He has a scientific approach and when the data showed that the holosuns are pretty tough, he wasn't afraid to adapt to the new tech. He's not married to an RMR, Aimpoint and ACOG as if they are the only options out there.. I love that.
My Holosun optics have been awesome
Please do a 10k round update for the EPS!
Thank you, as always. Such a massive value to the community. Helped bring dots to everyone, and also show us what works and what doesn't.
I don’t know why I have never clicked on Sage Dynamics videos. I always see them when looking at reviews, training, etc. This is the first one I’ve watched, awesome video. This has to be one of the best red dot reviews I have ever watched. If this same format extends across all of their reviewed equipment, I’m in. They have a new subscriber and fan, keep up the great work!!!
You have SO MANY videos to go through. Aaron Cowan is truly one of the greatest firearm instructors ever to live.
@DT Tiller: same-same here!
Aron says he's not the end all standard in pistol optics testing.....but we are all here because we think differently about that!
Great review again Aron! 👍
Your recoil management is amazing and your videos are great I'm so glad I found your channel
I hate him for his recoil control- but I’m just jealous ha
@@Flashhood1425 Will have to join his Patreon at the end of the year to still get them. I'm in!
So many rounds to build skills
As far as features go. This seems to be the best optic on the market. Hopefully it continues to hold up
Aaron, you are a gentleman and a scholar. Appreciate the consistent dedication to the absolute best pistol red dot reviews out there. I for one will absolutely be moving over to Patreon with you next year.
I absolutely love the EPS for my PDP compact for EDC. Great glass, great clarity, great size, great form and function.
Is your reticle distorted? I'm about to get one but I've read reviews saying their reticle is distorted (mrs version)
@@ronnguyen8287 never seen that. Granted I have a decent astigmatism. It’s not bad enough for it to affect my shooting except in darkness but it’s still noticeable soooo my reticle dare all distorted by default for me hahah
People can hate on Holosun all they want but they're becoming THE choice for handgun red dots. They listen and innovate and do what they can to get something we want, the little things like including several screw sets sets them apart for sure.
I have 4 different Holosun optics and they’ve all been great! I take appreciate the amount of features they pack into them and then price them so there is basically an option for anyone!
Because of your test, I bought one of these EPS-MRS. Installed it on my S&W M&P Compact. Wow, what an improvement for my old eyes. Thank you.
Aaron, hands-down awesome reviews / information transmission every time. Love your vids. Thank you!
At 0:57 there is a wonderful close up of you shooting multiple targets. If you ever wanted a training tool of “follow your eyes to the next target,” this is it. You clearly can see your eyes transitioning to the next target with movement of the gun and shots following shortly thereafter. I’ll be using it for show and tell today. Thanks Aaron.
Great review, thank you Aaron. It's a pity Trijicon can't keep up with a similar R&D pattern to keep up with market developments like Holosun is just simply cruising through and bringing to market. Nevertheless, we are likely to stick with the Holosun SCS and hope to host you in the new year, if possible, when we're ready to field those units.
Child slave labor has its benefits 😂
‘I’m not the definitive authority on red dots”… Yes Sir, you are! 😎
These get released right when I get off work each week. It's like a little youtube, "hey, let's start this weekend right" nudge
9:47 Catching that distant lightning in the night vision was pretty cool.
Excellent video as usual Aaron. Thank you for taking the time to keep us informed.
Honestly, I think we can all agree that the fastest guns available are open race guns, and dots on those sit at an height everyone would consider unacceptable on a slide ride dot. It’s just a matter of shooting style as you said. Great work by the way, thanks for the service you provide to everyone in the market for a dot.
I think that the desire for lower mounts, or co-witness w/o suppressor height sights, is so the folks who know irons can -- in their minds -- skip the RDS learning curve. They still have to learn to stop looking for the front sight post. They don't realize they aren't making it any easier, no matter what their "theory" might suggest.
When all you do is index your eyes to the target and present the pistol with the dot in the way, it doesn't matter at what (reasonable) height the optic window sits. Funny how at the same time everyone wants to LARP with NV etc and raise their optics on their rifles, they are screaming to lower them on the pistol. So much rookiedom.
@@seanoneil277 completely agree. The only reasonable argument to lower the optic is to co-witness standard-height irons, as higher front sights often mess up holster compatibility.
Well, I will definitely miss your TH-cam content. One of my favorite TH-cam channels, with a ton of absolutely invaluable information. Sorry to see you go sir. Wishing you all the best over on Patreon though.
That gun is sprung so well! It returns so flat with that setup!
Radian comp will do that.
Thank you for your review on both of these Aaron! Not much out there on the EPS models right now but you got them
This is how an enclosed optic should look in 2024 and going foward,
Also that's it's so low and you don't need hi iron sights is the way
And lastly it's awesome how holosun is slide matching the optics to the cuts on the gun it's going on and trying to colour match is a really nice move.
6:39 An optic that sits low in the gun is only better (regarding handguns). Sure, you may not ever felt you "needed" it but it does more than just allow co-witness with standard height sights. It also gives you a slighter bigger window (for same height), also gives you less height for the same window (less snag and better for CCW, less printing, etc...). It actually is a huge Pro despite the simple change.
It's virtually insignificant. You're splitting hairs over preference. If you take away the bias and just go off of objective advantage, it's not really changing anything. The best thing about it is that your irons already work as a co-witness and you don't have to get new one's. That to me is not a small thing, and make's the "lower mounting" very appealing and a nice bonus. But I already have a 509T mounted direct on a dedicated optic rail; and I actually prefer it even more, because of the clamp style mounting, just like a 1913 rail.. I never did jump on board the 'micro" pistol ban wagon.. but this thing (and/or EPS Carry), is really making me want to go ahead and grab one. Most likely a p365
For me, it's a big game of muscle memory.... When the optic is mounted lower, the dot comes up exactly where your irons would when u present your pistol on target.
Whether using an optic or not, I can draw the same way same everything... And whether I'm using irons or an optic, it's shows it's self in my sight line every time.
That's why I like lower mounted optics
Best value on TH-cam is Aaron. I love that there is a gun channel that doesn’t shove down your throat to like and subscribe. I only trust my barber…And Sage Dynamics.
Understand you’re not a professional TH-camr, but appreciate your videos. Equipment is very expensive and good to see items I might buy well tested so that I can make informed purchases.
Great overview as always. LOVE the field of view focuses at 7:33. Love this.
Another exceptional installment. “Recoil is stupid.” Fully agree. Grateful.
Great, thorough review, and helpful opinions. Great optic to consider for sure.
The best part about the EPS and EPS carry are that they use the same footprint. For guys deep in other footprints it may be hard to accept, but this could be THE awaited chosen standard footprint. The one to rule them all.
Thanks for investing the time to produce this video. You always cover the topics exceptionally well.
Glad a company made something like this. I have a Canik Mete and it requires a micro footprint. I want a dot but don't want a micro on a full sized pistol. The eps is the way I will go.
And here I thought my Canik METE was going to require a 507k or EPS Carry... It's encouraging to know I can put a slightly bigger window optic on now.
Speaking as an ACRO guy, I think a Glock milled for one of these with the rear iron in front of the optic would be fantastic carrying appendix. That drop off would help break up the silhouette. The rear edge of my ACROs always catch on my shirts
I like my eps. First one I got had a small crack on the left bottom corner of the back glass. Not right on the corner but a little offset. I didn’t notice it until I mounted it on my pistol. Also one of the screws was stripped so I had to use one I had. It was a bummer but I’ve only had good luck with Holosun and this was a very early one. Biggest problem was getting it replaced due to availability. Got my new one and everything worked great as all my other Holosun products have. Every company gets lemons every once in a while and I would assume Holosun produces a lot of optics. My new one functions as good as my other optics and wouldn’t let my first one turn me off of the eps. I like the size while getting an enclosed optic. Basically the same size as my 507, but lower and enclosed. Only thing to be aware of is finding the right one can be a bit confusing. Mostly due to the website that has it listed. Make sure you get the one you want (eps or eps carry).
Thanks for the video man ,I was going to buy the 507k now I'm going to wait on this one ,thanks man we appreciate you
I just got mine. It’s awesome.
This is exciting for me because you can mill an m&p 2.0 for the K footprint and use the standard iron sight and dovetail instead of having to mill a Glock dovetail for the rear and get a mismatched set of sights.
You sir set the standard. Cheers from the Philippines
I put the full size solar powered EPS on the new P365 Fuse; works great.
Probably singing to the preacher, but Swampfox has neat "problem solver" screw kit. Reasonably priced and IIRC shipping was free or ACTUAL first class (like a dollar or something...??). Just throwing it out there for those that don't know. Worth it to pick one up and have them on hand 🤙
Holosun just continues to impress.
I just got the Mossberg 940 Pro Tactical that’s direct milled for this footprint optic. I’m anxiously checking everyday to see when they’re finally available. I’ve always wanted to use the ring only reticle on a shotgun lol
Oh yeah, I need that carry version.
I spent the first 16 minutes of the video wondering what the adapter plate/system was. In case you're somewhere earlier in the video and wondering the same thing: it's an Agency Arms "AOS" plate (although I don't yet see an option for the Holosun 'k' footprint on their site), specifically for their AOS slide cut.
Side note: Aaron, if you're reading this, I realize beggars can't be choosers but some constructive criticism I have would be to add a quick overview in the beginning of these types of videos of the gun used to test the product and a disclosure of your relationship with the manufacturer of the product tested/reviewed. Of course, none of this feedback is discounting the value of the content you produce and share--thank you, sir!
This guy has openly announced his affiliation with agency. They actually have a sage pistol for him…
@@NiqHowie To clarify: the company I was referring to in this case is Holosun (not Agency)
Just bought the EPS for my M&P 2.0. I was gonna mount it with the stock plates. Does the C&H plate make a difference?
Your chose of slide color matches my G34 color. Nice choice.
Just bought the eps mrs in green. Can't wait to mount it on my CZ-P10C.
I was wondering if you'd ever review a Cyelee pistol red dot? I figured I'd ask since there's a lot of people reviewing and recommending them. Thanks.
Thank you man. Really appreciate your videos
AS USUAL...detailed and pertinent evaluation and analysis! Bravo Aaron!! Thank you for providing this non biased review to the public forum. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thanks man you are the OG recoil boss!
Great review. Holosun is the only option for the new S&W 5.7 and it looks like they picked the right sight. Love that it sits low and I don’t have to spend $100 on suppressor sights.
Best reviews on the internet. Bar none.
I've been trying to get one of these since I saw them previewed at Shot last year... on several wait lists but still can't get one. I'm glad it met your tests and standards!!
My god, they’ve done it again.
Off topic, but I'd like to know which mag extensions you're using and which ones would you recommend? Maybe another video with some drop testing of the different popular mag extensions 🤔?
Thank-you! I have one on back order but wanted to see what I was getting
Also, for a good while now, I've seen a lot of content creators moving to Patreon. None of them have inspired me to sign up for it. This channel will be what does it for me.
You caught a lighning stike with the nods. nice.
Now August, 2023, 9 months after this review, I'm thinking about buying an EPS Carry. Before I do, it would be good to know if Holosun will be coming out with a newer model within the next year or two. Would hate to buy now, only to learn that a new version is coming out soon.
Thank you for the review. cec holo continues to impress.
I think the “want it lower, want it lower“ thing isn’t because of presentation/comfort, sitting lower does let you use your oem/or not as high irons and cowitness. I also think a lot of that comes from the use of plates vs paying for a custom cut/milled slide. It seems you don’t care about back up/cowitness irons, but many, like myself do. And call me a whatever, but wont carry a rig, runnin a dot with out usable irons. To each their own. Also, and it’s is a thing, but a lower optic just “looks” better. When the v1 acro dropped, the only thing everyone even talked about was how bulky, dorky, and cumbersome it looked. That said, what a rad time to be into any mrd. The small issues or complaints of a while back are getting addressed, quality and durability are way way up vs yesteryears offerings, price is down, choice is up, battery life is up, nothing but positives all around and it benefits everyone. Great work Aaron. And happy learning/growing all.
The angry/frustrated reload at 7:28… I felt that lol
Oh how I wish Holosun would get around to making a gold reticle in a pistol optic. My clorblind eyes LOVE the gold on my rifle optic.
for me, it either the EPS or the 509 that i am gonna mount to my pistols. given what you said about the footprint, i might go with the EPS
These days it just feels like Holosun is one or two years ahead of the competition and everybody else is just playing catch-up.
I have never heard you talk about dot color. I would love to hear your take on green vs red.
Nice video and informative. I bought a Tavor X95 5.56. My question to you is, what kind of optic do you recommend for the Tavor X95. Thanks.
As always. Thank you for the content.
Great review, thanks! This looks like a great option.
@4:50 no, no, no, Aaron... You are, in fact the definitive decider when it comes to red dot use. I don't buy a damn thing without your stamp of approval.
Correction, you ARE definitive decider/authority!!! ❤️
thanks for the review as always!!!!!
With all the features of the EPS, from the side battery compartment to the solar failsafe, what would you say is "better", RMR or EPS???? One is $150-200 more, has far less features, need to remove to change battery, has a tiny lens, but is proven and reliable; while the other is modern, exciting, functional, and packed with features for 1/4 less in price. I could really use your opinion(s)!!! Thank you
I have an EPS on an MOS G34. You CAN still see the irons. It’s a functional view if you really need it, however, there are other “my optic went down” methods that don’t require irons.
Which plate did you use?
I have a g45 mos and also would like to know what plate you used to still use the stock iron sights
CHPWS for the plate.
@@mooseroberts4963 thank you
@@silverforever15 like I said, it’s a “functional” view. Not like with the SCS where you see the whole sight. It’s the top half but you could use them.
Great info... thank you... ordered mine...
Ill wait for the acss version of this. Perfect
Whoever's reading this, i pray that whatever you're going through gets better and whatever you're struggling with or worrying about is going to be fine and that everyone has a fantastic day! Amen
Great video comparing between the two Aimpoint Acro P2 vs Holosun EPS MRS price not a concern which optic would you choose?
Thanks Aaron! Long time sub, first time commenter... Great info, awesome as always. I've purchased 3 dots based off of your tests. Wondering if you have looked into testing the Bul Armory MS series?
My favorite part of this video is 14:34 seeing the concrete blocks being broken and busted in the middle where he is dropping optics on them. My not so favorite part is at 17:03!
Love watching your videos!! Keep it up 🔥
Always a great video!
Still waiting for my green MRS version to arrive direct from Holosun. It's been on backorder since July...
I have all black Ameriglo Defoor GT-504 sights for backup
Please carry on with the enclosed optic reviews by checking out Swampfox's Kraken!
I’m sure this has been said before but imagine being Aaron’s neighbor. “Goddamn here comes another 2,000 round review.”
I was getting ready for bed but I had to watch
Aaron what is the clear eye pro your wearing and can you get them in prescription lenses?
I’m glad they finally made a 6 moa dot.
Just got my EPS yesterday for my glock 19. What back up iron sights are recommended for a lower 1/3 co-witness (direct mount w/ optic cut, no plates)
Love your videos however, I do believe you prefer a lower optic on the gun. Reference you Agency AOS plate video where you praised how low the optic sat compared to the GLOCK MOS plate.
Also your Staccato P video where your only criticism was how high the plate made the optic sat.
I know opinion change and that could be the case here. I prefer lower optics so I don’t have to worry about mechanical off set at closer distances.
I would very much like to see your 25 yard bagged setup. I chased the living hell out of my 25 yard zero... 1 dollar a round was damned expensive. And MANY dollars were wasted. A tear was shed.
Please and thank you.
I feel ya on the zero $. But 25 yards is unnecessary. 10-15 is ideal. Your shooting a pistol hopes of a self defense encounter DOES NOT HAPPEN. Why add an offset unless you plan to shoot 100 + yards with a handgun. 99% of peeps fall into the no point category given the unlikely scenario vs the beyond unlikely scenario.
I thought that after Mr. Dickens stopped that mass shooter (armed with a rifle) by engaging him with his carry Glock from 40 yards away that we stopped this fudd lore about not going past 25 yards with a pistol.
While I understand your reasoning for going to Patreon and don’t blame you one bit… it saddens me in that right now, with inflation, we are pinching pennies. Cut out streaming services, etc. in order to save money. So, I won’t be watching the new videos until things improve. Do wish you the best though! Good luck and God Bless!
No ACSS Vulcan. No tech from the SCS. No buy.
We want:
-titanium body
-enclosed emitter
-acss Vulcan reticle
-small footprint
-auto brightness tech from SCS
Holosun needs to stop fucking around giving us incremental updates & release a 509t like green reticle with SCS technology and Primary Arms, LLC Vulcan ACSS reticle in it.
But instead we get the SCS this year. Next year we'll get an SCS with Vulcan reticle. Year after that we'll get a 509t with SCS technology on it. Then finally we'll get the holy grail the year after that.
Tired of them milking this shit like apple does.
Release the holy grail now.
I was thinking the same thing. They released the 509 ACCS Vulcan right when they announce the EPS and EPS Carry, why not just put the ACCS Vulcan in those instead of the out dated 509?
@@southerndiesels exactly. Nickel and dime us like Apple does 😕
We want the ultimate enclosed emitter
Great video! I’m new to red dots, and a bit confused. I have a Glock 19 MOS. Could I mount the EPS to my MOS with a 507k C&H precision plate? Or does the plate have to be specifically for the EPS?
I have the same question, anyone an answer?
Yes you can the eps uses the 507k footprint
I noticed that you are wearing an armband with a white pad. is this for tennis elbow? I suffer from that a lot and wondering how much that band helps if in fact that's the reason you're wearing it.