Best Ladies Lutz Jump? World Championships 2021 - Lutz Edge Analysis

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  • Here’s a lutz jump analysis of the top ladies at the Worlds Championships 2021 - featuring Anna Shcherbakova, Elizaveta Tuktamysheva, Alexandra Trusova, Rika Kihira, Kaori Sakamoto, Karen Chen, and more.
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  • @SkateInsider
    @SkateInsider  3 ปีที่แล้ว +450

    Always remember: Scoring has nothing to do with the skaters, it's all given by the ISU judges. Please respect the skaters before leaving a comment 😊

    • @queenofnevers6990
      @queenofnevers6990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Hello, I have an idea for video. Would you be interested to take a look back at the skaters from the previous generation? To check lutzes of Sasha Cohen, Irina Slutskaya, Shizuka Arakawa, Michelle Kwan and some others from the same period. Are flutzes among the top skaters the disease of this decade or they were around earlier, but we weren't just awared?

    • @claiirdelunee
      @claiirdelunee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thank you for the reminder. I totally agree :)

    • @SamSam-ru2qi
      @SamSam-ru2qi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Please don't let the 1/2 pre-rotation pass

    • @user-lw6pq1gs8p
      @user-lw6pq1gs8p 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@SamSam-ru2qi YES YES YES!!!!! This is where too many “flutz’s” come in as well. And certain skaters try to hide it with lovelier, more complex take-off intros. “Oooh I was watching that, not watching closely for the outside edge…the flat or the inside edge take off!” You’ve got to be all focused on that entry edge to see it! Judges get a closer look, but few spectators do. That’s not to say that they shouldn’t work on more complex, more graceful jump entries, BUT only if they don’t use it as a crutch to hiding flat or true outside edge Lutz take-offs. Some hide their Flutz too easily, almost as if it’s a conscious choice or training technique like pre-rotation

    • @user-lw6pq1gs8p
      @user-lw6pq1gs8p 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@queenofnevers6990 YES! I’d love to see that!

  • @zylffinn9455
    @zylffinn9455 3 ปีที่แล้ว +292

    Flutzes are everywhere to the point that seeing true lutzes feels weird.

  • @yichen3446
    @yichen3446 3 ปีที่แล้ว +874

    Rika's lutz technique is literally flawless

    • @alexiadesantis6204
      @alexiadesantis6204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +126

      Sasha deserve her GOE. She's lutz is really good with deep outside edge and clen rotation. An other thing is Anna. She's lutz is not even a lutz.. anyway liza's goe was really low☹

    • @lydiasfontouri3466
      @lydiasfontouri3466 3 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      Trusova's Lutz is QUAD not triple! No women in the world has her beautiful quad lutz! She has worked so hard to minimalize prerotation, and her air position is amazing. Trully an amazing athlete. Other than trusova Lisa is amazing and Kihira. That's the 3 girls I would want to have in the podium

    • @lexa2481
      @lexa2481 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Eliza had such a terrible tano arm position on 3lz 3t

    • @trashcant69
      @trashcant69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It comes with the Eteri bonus I suppose

    • @trashcant69
      @trashcant69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@lydiasfontouri3466 It makes no difference how many people can do a certain element, the judges shouldn't give high GOE to an unclean element just because it's rare. If judged correctly, a clean triple should be worth more than a cheated quad. The current judging rewards dangerous practices, these girls are pretty much guaranteed to wreck their body before they turn 20 instead of having a chance at a long, sustainable career.

  • @matiasrivas_
    @matiasrivas_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +175

    -Liza: beautiful lutz
    -Judges: yeah, +1 GOE💀

    • @OlgaKuznetsova73
      @OlgaKuznetsova73 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      У Лизы самый лучший лутц, только её всегда, к сожалению, придерживают и не дооценивают!

    • @ego_peyseyshestvo
      @ego_peyseyshestvo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@OlgaKuznetsova73 справедливости ради, это не судьи занижают, а сами правила оценки гое дурацкие. на технику они не обращают внимания, только на входы-выходы и позицию в воздухе/приземлении, а все это у лизы хромает :(

    • @WES6666
      @WES6666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@OlgaKuznetsova73 It's like the judges are personally offended that she is a great skater and is still competitive with the younger skaters 😂

  • @raininhereyes
    @raininhereyes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +551

    Liza is a lutz queen!!! Why only +1 GOE, judges ???

    • @meitaslonimski6807
      @meitaslonimski6807 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      @@rlrl781 ok, leave it to 3-3 jump, but goe for her solo Lutz are criminally low😥

    • @amandadean5470
      @amandadean5470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      @@meitaslonimski6807 totally agree. The solo Lutz deserved a +4 GOE!

    • @meitaslonimski6807
      @meitaslonimski6807 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      @@amandadean5470 yes!! So sad to think judges were afraid of Liza's victory if her FS was clean, so it becomes pretty clear why her GOE for lutzes are so low

    • @nipaipo36100
      @nipaipo36100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      because they are bad and pathetic

    • @nikitashaitan9984
      @nikitashaitan9984 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Because there are 6 possibilities which increase jump GoE. Her jumps don’t look effortless. The way she lands them feels like it’s not stable. Her finishing pose is not really aesthetically pleasing. So the position in both air and on landing is also not there. The only thing she has is height snd length. Perhaps also that choreo before the jump. But to be fair those steps are wack.
      +1+2 is what it might get

  • @amandadean5470
    @amandadean5470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +397

    I'm gonna say this now: Kaori has a flutz. This is common knowledge. She got called on it (3Lze), which is correct. I'm still proud of her for putting out 2 good programs! 🥰👏💖🇯🇵⛸ Also, Elizaveta got robbed on the GOE for her lutzes in the short and in the free. They were absolutely perfect!! So happy to see the Empress back on podium after 6 years! She was amazing! 🤩💖🇷🇺🥈👸

    • @denalihedgehog
      @denalihedgehog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Empress is always so underrated by judges (in terms of GOE). I have a strong feeling, if the scoring was correct, Liza'd be the World Champion again

    • @usaskjock
      @usaskjock 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought Liza’s Second lutz as shown here was clearly under rotated

  • @andreeat608
    @andreeat608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    Liza's getting 0s for her lutzs and Anna 4s all around. What a crazy world.

    • @wg2226
      @wg2226 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      That's what happens if you don't train under Tutberidze, the bias seems more and more clear

    • @imari9997
      @imari9997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@wg2226 So true, and they can get away with doping as well.

    • @user-nd5xf4cz3j
      @user-nd5xf4cz3j 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@imari9997 поэтому и бегут все к этой грузинке потому что знают какие там грибы дают, у Мишина кроме Лизы никого нет знают что там так не нагрибуют.

  • @Hannelitaa
    @Hannelitaa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +225

    Rika and Liza have very clean jumps! The state of Art for a triple! But can we also appreciate Trusova's *rippon* quad Lutz? She can improve the jump, of course, but it's still impressive.

  • @kadenfoley3514
    @kadenfoley3514 3 ปีที่แล้ว +466

    I think Kaori's lutz being called proves the judges can see when a lutz isn't a true lutz, they just unfortunately choose not to see it for some skaters. I feel bad for all the skaters that this is how judging is because it helps none of them - if lutzes were called properly those who had problems with them would have a reason to fix it, and those who don't would get the extra points they deserve.

    • @WES6666
      @WES6666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      True. Eteri camp doesn't even care about fixing edge problems because they know they'll never be called for it. Biggest example is Evgenia and Sasha only got edge calls when they left Eteri. I'm curious to see if Trusova is gonna get edge calls on her Flip now that she has returned to Eteri.

    • @xuezhang9944
      @xuezhang9944 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True

    • @viktoria8189
      @viktoria8189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@WES6666 why only Eteri? They basically blink for every other Japanese/US etc. skaters who need to be higher while calling Kaori...

    • @kerorin2723
      @kerorin2723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@WES6666 Sasha still get flip called after returned to Eteri on Rusnat and only her

    • @WES6666
      @WES6666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@kerorin2723 yeah it's so outrageous that the skater that has the best technique out of all of Eteri's is the only one thats getting edge calls. The judges are literally backwards.

  • @Cherry-iq1xb
    @Cherry-iq1xb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +255

    since most of the comments here are praising Rika and Liza(which is very very well deserved), I'm just going to shout out to Karen for having a great Lutz. Great comeback!

    • @skatergirl1247
      @skatergirl1247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Karen's lutz is huge!!! Such an underrated skater in general, really!!

    • @Cherry-iq1xb
      @Cherry-iq1xb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@skatergirl1247 Yeah! I’m all for her going to the Olympics again! So wish she will fix some of her issues too but she is such a great joy to watch!:)

    • @SkateInsider
      @SkateInsider  3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      and the Austrian skater - Olga Mikutina in 8th place. I'm a big fan of her rippon jump!! 😍

    • @Cherry-iq1xb
      @Cherry-iq1xb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SkateInsider huge mood!

    • @jesssssss
      @jesssssss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Yes, thank you for pointing that out! Karen always has a magnificent lutz-it covers so much distance and she has gorgeous technique to compliment that.

  • @vichka4671
    @vichka4671 3 ปีที่แล้ว +170

    Rika and Liza😍😍

    • @user-cp2bo3zm9s
      @user-cp2bo3zm9s 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Karen Chen had a very good Lutz too❤

  • @kathryn1313
    @kathryn1313 3 ปีที่แล้ว +225

    The Empress Liza has stayed in the game and kept up her quality skating skills that she started when the majority of the girls (except for the lovely Bradie) in this field were literally babies. I’m so happy that she was able to attend the 2021 World Championships to showcase her skating skills at 24. I’m also so incredibly proud of her that she earned the silver medal 🥈👏🏻❤️

  • @yohanes2034
    @yohanes2034 3 ปีที่แล้ว +271

    Great technique by Liza, Karen, Rika, and Olga. Well plus Sasha for at least a corect edge take off. Shout out to Yelim Kim SP 3Lz+3T (even though Lz edge was flat) was so huge and had so much running edge, I got the feel of Yuna Kim signature combo. Anna besides the unclear edges for her F and Lz, her toe pick technique is just athrocious. She prerotates more than 180 deg.

    • @rayneforresy640
      @rayneforresy640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Yea, it was huge and that speed... Really reminds me of Yuna too. If she can correct it, it would be great. But eh, would be hard i think.
      Seems like the KR ladies do have Yuna in their mind when jumping 😂.

    • @SkateInsider
      @SkateInsider  3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Yelim Kim is so underrated and deserves more recognition, and also Olga Mikutina's gorgeous rippon position is my new favourite now 😍

    • @rayneforresy640
      @rayneforresy640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      But KRfed is shit 😭😭
      They can do so much better... They have so much potential ngl. KRfed better took care of their ladies better.
      Off topic, but i really like Yelim's SP dress. That green is so beautiful

    • @yohanes2034
      @yohanes2034 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@rayneforresy640 I know! Yelim Kim SP is on my replay rotation. It's very classy. I've never seen Korean skaters have bad costumes. Their packaging game is on fire.

    • @Rachel-rs7jn
      @Rachel-rs7jn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Agree with this 100%.

  • @YT-rd9mr
    @YT-rd9mr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Rika Kihira's “The deepest outside edge” deserve high praise. Wonderful!
    I like Liza' s and Rika's lutz. They're really beautiful.

  • @rica2269
    @rica2269 3 ปีที่แล้ว +251

    i think they should start finally deducting anna for her flutz😔 at least so she can maybe work on it like alena did

    • @quadlutzes5788
      @quadlutzes5788 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      yep, unfortunately her coaches have realized that she will not be called and load as many "lutzes" as possible into her programs to gain extra points unfairly. when she does 4lz she typically is up to 5 lutzes a competition, (1 3Lz in sp, 2 3lz and 2 4lz in fs) keeping several extra points when the lutz edges are not called and points are not deducted appropriately. it's very sad to see not just for anna but for other skaters who are losing placements unfairly, i'm not sure why the isu is so content with doing this.

    • @yohanes2034
      @yohanes2034 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@quadlutzes5788 that was last season and it's my biggest gripe. By only applying ! she could lose 10-12 pts combine because of how many lutzes she did. Plus if I'm being honest her flip is also sometimes unclear and ISU tends to be easy on calling flip edges. Anna in the junior was getting ! on her flip several times but since she became front runner the calls suddenly gone.

    • @sanya5788
      @sanya5788 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      1) Anna's edge is flat, not inside (i.e. not a 'flutz').
      2) Aliona's too. She had (sometimes in the past) shallow outside just because they got rid of any entry (?), so she could focus on her edge. Now it's definitely flat.
      3) Alexandra's flip edge is outside - 'lip'. But she got only '!' call in both programs.
      4) Bradie also has a flat edge, but I don't see any '!' in the details...
      5) Bonus. Kaori's flutz was not called at WC2019. So, I understand now, why she put 3Lz, not 3Lo, in her short. But it was called this time.
      So, I think, it would be great, if all (not only lutz edges) would be called correctly and judging all (not only eteri girls) skaters would be questioned.

    • @yohanes2034
      @yohanes2034 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@sanya5788 WC 2019 was lenient all around. If I recall correctly, no one got called like Zhenya, Sofia, and Kaori. But in this WC 2021, TP were only growing conscience when they judge certain skaters and not all. IMO it's the worst compared to not call it at all.

    • @sanya5788
      @sanya5788 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@yohanes2034 not only WC2019, but also GPF, 4CC and so on (about Kaori). It's just funny how people keep saying the same thing about certain skaters, but there are bradie, kaori (with big prerotation) and many other skaters, whose edges are of questionable quality. Sorry but ignorance is annoying. And what about WC2021. Many underrotations were not called correctly. So, the panel in Saitama was forgiving the edges and in Stockholm - the underrotations.

  • @recreationalyoutubefrequenter
    @recreationalyoutubefrequenter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +219

    Liza and Rika are literal Lutz Queens 😍❤️

    • @nipaipo36100
      @nipaipo36100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      sorry but rika has not a real outside edge and has a little blade assistance. liza s technic is far away better

    • @Wataru-os2px
      @Wataru-os2px 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@nipaipo36100Not a real outsife edge? do you even have an eye?

    • @recreationalyoutubefrequenter
      @recreationalyoutubefrequenter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Wataru-os2px I completely agree! And did they even watch the replay of her feet??

    • @PeiwenTanbassoon821
      @PeiwenTanbassoon821 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@Wataru-os2px maybe haters think Rika's lutz edge is "too outside"? 🤔

    • @nijoesmil25
      @nijoesmil25 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Liza s better
      The 1/2 prerotation is supposedly admitted but the real lutz technique must have less than a 1/4 prerotation to be called textbook

  • @rsk-momo
    @rsk-momo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    Rika′s Lutz is always perfect. Liza′s also gorgeous.
    True technic ladies.

  • @noraliu6442
    @noraliu6442 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I like how the music suddenly change at liza's lutz hahaha. really like her lutz and overall program and her attitude!

  • @anhnguyenthingoc9504
    @anhnguyenthingoc9504 3 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    "expected pre rotate now". I laugh so hard

    • @SkateInsider
      @SkateInsider  3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      figure skating channel like us are close to giving up on ancient correct lutz technique at this point 😔

    • @matiasrivas_
      @matiasrivas_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yo también, aunque en este punto no me sorprendería que anuncien un cambio con respecto a la prerotacion 😔

    • @rosevaliant
      @rosevaliant 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      That’s actually very sad lol especially for those few skaters with correct technique

    • @WeLoveSkating1
      @WeLoveSkating1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SkateInsider true );

  • @achilleroy1580
    @achilleroy1580 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    I see only 3 really beautiful Lutzes here :
    1) Tuktamysheva, the QUEEN of Lutz besides Yuna
    2) Kihira, really great technique and gorgeous
    3) Karen Chen, maybe a little less consistent but solid technique nevertheless

    • @skatergirl1247
      @skatergirl1247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      + Olga Mikutina😉

    • @Rachel-rs7jn
      @Rachel-rs7jn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@skatergirl1247 Was gonna say that! Those four were the clear best of the bunch.

    • @yuraefimen
      @yuraefimen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely right.

  • @user-ph4fe4xi6g
    @user-ph4fe4xi6g 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    У Туктамышевой самый правильный ,пролётный лутц. И я не понимаю почему ,судьи этого не видят. Щербакова ,часто прыгает флутц ,но баллы получает большие. Хороший лутц у Кихиры .

    • @antonmarkin9491
      @antonmarkin9491 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      1. Щербакова не часто прыгает флутц (а если быть точным то флутцбергер ибо толчок у нее не зубцом) - она его прыгает всегда ибо прыгать лутц (как и флип) не умеет в принципе
      2. Судьи прекрасно все видят, просто +3 и +4 это кого надо +3 и 4, а кого не надо там и +1 хватит. По-хорошему еще бы и за преротейшен 180+ штрафовать

    • @lizavasel5158
      @lizavasel5158 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@antonmarkin9491дааа, а многие ещё пишут и доказывают, что у Ани нормальные флип и лутц. Тут ими даже и не пахнет, это флутцбергер

  • @nipaipo36100
    @nipaipo36100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    everybody know that liza has the best technic on the jumps. she is specially the queen of the lutz! and to see she got lower goe than many girls is just ridiculous. !

  • @rosevaliant
    @rosevaliant 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Rika 🤝 Liza
    Having perfect technique but getting paid dust in GOE

  • @matiasrivas_
    @matiasrivas_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Rika outside edge: 🛐
    It's deeper than my soul

  • @lyramusica4485
    @lyramusica4485 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Liza has the best ladies' lutz in the world imo. What upsets me though is that the judges tend to overlook Anna's "flat" edge even though it isn't a clean takeoff. It is so unfair that the judges favor certain skaters (Team Tutberidze mainly) while harshly judging other skaters like Kaori for flutzing.
    We saw the same with Evgenia. The judges would ALWAYS ignore her flutz when she was with Eteri but then started finally deducting her after she went to Brian 🤦🏽‍♀️

  • @cocolauyin
    @cocolauyin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +191

    The fact that Anna has such a high goe with flutz and full blade and pre rotation makes me sick. Done with isu and the sport...whats the point of having a competition if the judging is not fair

    • @user-ml7sb5nz2g
      @user-ml7sb5nz2g 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Зато катается разы красивее остальных участниц. Её плавность гасит все недочёты.
      "But she skates several times more beautiful than the rest of the participants. Its smoothness extinguishes all the flaws."

    • @katyyyyyaDi
      @katyyyyyaDi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@user-ml7sb5nz2g извините, но плавность на может перекрыть неправильную технику)

    • @user-ml7sb5nz2g
      @user-ml7sb5nz2g 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@katyyyyyaDi музыкальность и плавность могут, минус 1 за технику плюс 1,5 за красивое исполнение.

    • @WES6666
      @WES6666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@user-ml7sb5nz2g people have eyes though.

    • @user-gx1qh2zj5y
      @user-gx1qh2zj5y 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Well it's been a while since the judges started to give ridiculously high GOE to Anna despite all the edges and pre rotations. Also the PCS scores of Anna is wayyyy too high compared to the other competitors , which is unfair. In my opinion (including most of the figure fans) I think the ISU just decided to give exceptionally high scores to her to make her on the podium

  • @xXSillyGooseXx
    @xXSillyGooseXx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Liza 😍😍😍 sadly her GOEs are always too small :(

    • @user-gg9uu9kx9w
      @user-gg9uu9kx9w 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Have you seen her quad? I’m still in shock she never stops getting better

    • @xXSillyGooseXx
      @xXSillyGooseXx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@user-gg9uu9kx9w yes, I did!! And her 3A+3T. She's super inspiring, while most female russian skaters stop competing by around 18, she's still improving at 24 🤩

    • @user-gg9uu9kx9w
      @user-gg9uu9kx9w 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@xXSillyGooseXx it’s so heartwarming and I hope it’s encouraging all of the current teenage skaters in Russia’s crazy system to keep fighting and to never give up, you never know how things might turn out :’)

    • @xXSillyGooseXx
      @xXSillyGooseXx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@user-gg9uu9kx9w me too!!

    • @WES6666
      @WES6666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xXSillyGooseXx I really hope she becomes the example to follow. All the Russian skater are so amazing, and they keep getting better and better with age. It's so sad to say goodbye to a skater at 17 and 18 when they're just starting to mature and find their style. We want to see them grow and change. But this 18yrs curse is not allowing it.

  • @abdakhatoon9514
    @abdakhatoon9514 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Rika's jumps are so quick and pristine, really pleasing to watch uwu

  • @Edward-W
    @Edward-W 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Please please please no... Let's NOT have 1/2 pre-rotation become "the expectation nowadays"... That's just so not ok. Skaters CAN DO IT RIGHT. Just because a large amount of them don't learn proper technique doesn't mean that proper technique itself has changed.

    • @annar1525
      @annar1525 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Could not agree more. I enjoyed the video very much, but it doesn't make it right that some skaters has wrong technic. It stays wrong technic and is just sad they still get high for for it. Judges are not competent enough or don't put afford to replay the video while technical specialist don't have symbol to mark this (as opposed to < to UR)

    • @SkateInsider
      @SkateInsider  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      glad to hear your feedback on it ☺️

    • @Edward-W
      @Edward-W 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@SkateInsider thank you for considering it! I'm very worried that if we give way to the judges' completely baseless judging, it'll only make things worse. If ISU isn't going to uphold their own standards, we as the community of skaters and spectators must do it.

    • @jesssssss
      @jesssssss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@SkateInsider Just wanted to second Edward's opinion here! I know that 1/2 prerotation or more has come to be common, but in my opinion as a skater and as a fan, that takes away credit from the skaters who actually have fully correct technique. I'd rather give more credit to skaters who have good lutzes than overlook the skaters who still have work to do on their lutzes in order to fully master the jump. Just my opinion of course, but figured I'd share it here anyways to continue the conversation!

    • @nikitashaitan9984
      @nikitashaitan9984 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’d rather say fully rotated jump with 1/2 prerotation is better than 14 prerotation and underrotation.
      Not learning ‘proper ancient lutz technique’ gives skaters more time to master skating skills, try quads. So if ISU is okay with it, i’d rather watch exciting quads than proper lutzes and doubles in free skate.

  • @user-fq9on7yv3j
    @user-fq9on7yv3j 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    У Туктамышевой лучший лутц в мире ( слова Тарасовой).

    • @annaxiox
      @annaxiox ปีที่แล้ว

      ага, ещё у Косторной

  • @asmaharbi2617
    @asmaharbi2617 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Liza won my heart with her textbook lutz😍

  • @-TMHNSN-
    @-TMHNSN- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Rika and Liza ❤️❤️

  • @orangegooey1017
    @orangegooey1017 3 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    If Sasha fixes her pre rotation on all her jumps she'll have text book jumps.
    And Rika and Liza textbook queens 💪🏻💪🏻👑👸👏👏👏

    • @rayneforresy640
      @rayneforresy640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Not gonna happen, ever. One she needs to prerorate to jump quads. Two, prerotating is already ingrained in her body. It's almost an impossibility to correct jumps once you're a senior. It's muscle memory at that point. The Only way to get proper jumps is to train jump properly since childhood.

    • @orangegooey1017
      @orangegooey1017 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@rayneforresy640 Well you never know but yeah the chances are low

    • @rayneforresy640
      @rayneforresy640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Tbf, Sasha's probably the best jumper out of the current Russian ladies sans Liza. I hope she can stabilize her quads, cause i don't think with 1 year left, her PCS can rise much. She just not known for artistically and musicality...
      But yea, is prerotation is a common thing for Russian ladies now 😔😔 .. Dunno why when Liza and Misha can have perfect textbook jumps. But when I think about it, having Perfect textbook jumps is like being the genius of your year 😂😂😂

    • @yohanes2034
      @yohanes2034 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@rayneforresy640agree, looking out on the rest of the top ladies in Russia I could say that Sasha has the better jump technique. If you compare her to Anna, Daria, Maiia, and Valieva, Sasha's technique is just way better. The only girl that has the best technique is Veronika Zhilina, if that girl someday finally land the quad lutz then that will be the 1st true 4Lz landed for ladies field in my eyes.

    • @rosevaliant
      @rosevaliant 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@yohanes2034 Veronika’s 4Lz is gorgeous tbh I just wish they wouldn’t push those girls at such a young age. It’s getting more and more depressing to see them peak and burn out before they are 18

  • @SquirrelTrapper
    @SquirrelTrapper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    It's criminal that Tuktamysheva is getting ZERO GOE on a TEXTBOOK lutz while the other Russians were getting consistent 3s and 4s on loop jumps masquerading as "lutz".

    • @maouimaisnon2535
      @maouimaisnon2535 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Liza may have a criminally low GOE but Sasha’s technique improved a lot since a few years. The o my thing she has to correct is her prerotation but again, a LOT of skaters have a loop entry, not only the Russians. Almost all of them except Rika, Olga, and Karen (and Liza of course). But blaming the Russians on something they are not the worst at betrays a lack of impartiality.

  • @skatergirl1247
    @skatergirl1247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Olga Mikutina!!! I saw her potential at Euros last year, and I'm so glad she delivered this weekend!!😍
    (Also Karen's was gorgeous as always!!)

    • @SkateInsider
      @SkateInsider  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yas yas yas she deserves more recognition!!!

    • @denalihedgehog
      @denalihedgehog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, Olga's lutz is SOO beautiful

  • @LilySayyy
    @LilySayyy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Rika's and Elizaveta's GOEs are criminally low. And it's really sad that we won't be seeing them in Beijing 2022

  • @Plaspos
    @Plaspos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Yelims edge isn’t great but it’s the biggest jump here! Appreciation for her that her jump combo doubled in distance from last year

    • @SkateInsider
      @SkateInsider  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      agree 😍 her combo is one of my fav for now

    • @silver9365
      @silver9365 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes~~~~

  • @iosebdzamukashvili5360
    @iosebdzamukashvili5360 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Rika's, Kare's and Liza's Lutzes are the best in the world. Probably the only true ones. Good for Olga Mikutina too! So sad, ISU not appreciating the good ones and giving +GoEs to Flutzers. So unfair!

  • @cherry-tl5gx
    @cherry-tl5gx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Well made video. Thank you for uploading. Rika and Liza's Lutz jump is the best!

  • @runrun1935
    @runrun1935 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love rika's jump

  • @user-vk3jc8dp2z
    @user-vk3jc8dp2z ปีที่แล้ว +8

    紀平さんとリーザのブレード全体を着かずにトゥでしっかり跳ぶルッツはもっと評価してあげてほしい。多くの選手がフルブレードになってるけど、その時点で実質はインサイドのエッジジャンプであるループもどきになるから、物理的にアウトサイドで跳べてないよね。。

  • @user-red47854
    @user-red47854 3 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    This is why I'm not impressed with Anna. Sasha for her boldness, yes, I'm impressed. But, Liza and Rika are definitely better with their skating skills. Artistry-wise, I'll have to give few more years to the younger competitors. Liza's aesthetic really isn't up to my taste.

    • @marinabudnikova9017
      @marinabudnikova9017 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In this competition Rika and Sasha have a lot of mistakes unfortunetly

    • @Plaspos
      @Plaspos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Anna and Sasha skating skills are both better than Liza. The three Japanese skaters had the best skating skills here and Yelim, Karen, and Haein are probably the best after them. Anna, Sasha, Loena, Bradie, etc. are just in the middle of the pack

    • @yohanes2034
      @yohanes2034 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Plaspos not just the ladies, the men also have the best skating skills out of their group. Japanese skating school should exclusively teach SS and spread the love

    • @annecohen8927
      @annecohen8927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      None of them showed true artistry. They may show some spirals and jumps, but they show very little artistry. Maybe for Alina Z. though.

    • @Plaspos
      @Plaspos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@yohanes2034 I have to disagree, of the men here I think Jason had the best skating skills. Second Kolyada. The third could be Yuzuru, Yuma, or Kevin. Shoma has amazing skating skills but I don't think he shows it well at all with these two programs, he needs a more challenging choreography and bladework outside of the step sequence

  • @charlotteantonia6969
    @charlotteantonia6969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Olga mikutina is always underscored! She has amazing jumping and skating technic and amazing turns.

  • @tappudansuyanagi
    @tappudansuyanagi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    🥇Liza
    🥈Rika
    🥉Karen

    • @user-ym6pb6zz1c
      @user-ym6pb6zz1c 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      完全同意です。
      むしろこの3人以外ルッツじゃない。

    • @tappudansuyanagi
      @tappudansuyanagi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@user-ym6pb6zz1c ミクティナは結構きれいなルッツですよね
      惜しいのがトゥルソワとテネルといったところでしょうか

    • @user-ym6pb6zz1c
      @user-ym6pb6zz1c 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tappudansuyanagi
      うーん。テネルと変わらないように見えます。
      軌道は綺麗だけど、最後の最後にエッジが起きてるように見えるし、1/2のプレロテなのでちょっと微妙かな〜。
      私はトゥルソワの方がマシに見えました。
      まぁシェルバコワとか坂本さんとか韓国勢とかヘンドリックスよりは全然マシですけどね。

    • @tappudansuyanagi
      @tappudansuyanagi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@user-ym6pb6zz1c リーザとアーニャのルッツを同じ大会で見ててジャッジは何も感じないんでしょうかね

  • @corneliameier5163
    @corneliameier5163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Fantastic video! Very instructional to non-skaters. Love it. Thanks for educating people.

  • @minamikato9962
    @minamikato9962 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Anna has flutz. She always takes off with a flat edge and definitely needs to improve her lutz jump.

  • @vie4875
    @vie4875 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    rika, liza, and sasha deserve the best goes, hands down. ik sasha has minor problems but shes doing a quad whereas a lot of the women are doing triples and having more problems

  • @avg18
    @avg18 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My favorite lutz these days is from Tomoe Kawabata.

  • @Yurito12
    @Yurito12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Karen and Rika 🤭

  • @izbella3556
    @izbella3556 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yelim's Lutz isn't the cleanest, but her air position and landing pose is so beautiful in my opinion!

  • @ronalee3476
    @ronalee3476 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Other skaters are not sure the edge is clear until they see the slow screen. However, Rika and Liza have clear edges just by looking at them.

  • @Plaspos
    @Plaspos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I like mikutina’s entrance a lot, it’s different but old school at same time

  • @angieortizurena3327
    @angieortizurena3327 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    That the gold medal winner had gotten a +2 GOE with what now isn’t even a Flutz but looks more like a FLOOTZ is so disgusting, even more compared with the flawless technique of Liza! I really hope Rus Nat were her peak...

  • @camitorresreyes
    @camitorresreyes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Como a Anna le dieron un goe de +4 por un flutz, y a Liza un +1 por un verdadero Lutz? Es injusto, que no les penalize los flutzes y las pre rotaciones excesivas. Los jueces de la ISU no les importa nada!!!!

  • @user-lw6pq1gs8p
    @user-lw6pq1gs8p 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video! I’ve seen too many “Flutz’s” just in the Olympics

  • @budgie0924
    @budgie0924 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Nobunari Oda, one of famous skaters in Japan, said Liza was the best lutz jumper in the world.

  • @vinchits
    @vinchits 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sasha was elegant, quite clean and delightful to watch, as always.

  • @mbaxromov40
    @mbaxromov40 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This Anna's 3Lz+3Lo combo was gorgeous 😍

  • @milktae_0425
    @milktae_0425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the video! :)

  • @thomascardenas4656
    @thomascardenas4656 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Judges should watch your video

  • @beatrizv4883
    @beatrizv4883 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    liza's lutz is so beautiful, I'm always amazed by it! but tbh I dont like the position of her arms, it looks a bit weird to me.
    rika's lutz brings me happiness 🥺

    • @mithrandirstormcrow4952
      @mithrandirstormcrow4952 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Liza's arm always reminds me of a T-Rex haha.

    • @beatrizv4883
      @beatrizv4883 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mithrandirstormcrow4952 exactly hahahah

    • @SkateInsider
      @SkateInsider  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i'm deaaad 💀😂😂😂

  • @guiradoadrien7348
    @guiradoadrien7348 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    love your videos thank you so much!!! :)

  • @user-hv6ss5xm2w
    @user-hv6ss5xm2w 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    さすがリーザ様と梨花ちゃん✨

  • @softwarereview2775
    @softwarereview2775 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff!

  • @xuezhang9944
    @xuezhang9944 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    ISU should be strict with its scoring. With available technique, it’s very easy for the technique panel to review all jumps and grade them properly. Don’t spoil wrong edges or pre-rotations.

  • @joshe4015
    @joshe4015 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love that outside edge on Liza but she really saw videos of Evgenia’s helicopter Tanos and the comments dragging her for it and said “hold my boot” 💀💀💀

  • @user-io5bk6er7l
    @user-io5bk6er7l 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Liza is a really hero of wc2021, even when she was robbed

  • @giuliamogliani5020
    @giuliamogliani5020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Liza and Rika

  • @senabayraktar2696
    @senabayraktar2696 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    how can one of the judges give 5 and the other give 2 GOE??? This is bullshit.

  • @user-rs4dw8bz5q
    @user-rs4dw8bz5q 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    리카짱 정석 러츠 ..✨

  • @matiasrivas_
    @matiasrivas_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Los saltos de Anna juegan muchísimo con mi mente, porque a pesar de tener esa técnica y que por eso no me guste, no se cómo hace que se vean tan lindos, su rotación en el aire y aterrizaje son muy estéticos. Simplemente mi mente dice: wait whaaaat

  • @TheLurkingDerm
    @TheLurkingDerm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Rika's GOE on her Lutz should be the highest of the competition. Liza has a beautiful takeoff as well, but there's something about the way she lands that is aesthetically unpleasing to me, but that's just personal preference and not something that should lower her GOE. Anna not getting an edge call is, again, ridiculous. A little part of me wonders if Anna is getting such high GOE to pressure the Russian federation to keep her on the Olympic team even though she will be past the Eteri expiration date by the time the Olympics do roll around.

  • @kenanquitco
    @kenanquitco 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Should we still even call it a “toe pick” then? HAHAHAHA! Great vid 🙌🏻

  • @user-pu9fj6ot5r
    @user-pu9fj6ot5r 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Lzはリーザが一番綺麗。

  • @jnielson3683
    @jnielson3683 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I love Anna so much. When they score her too high, it demeans her skating. Give her what she earns. She doesn’t need any help.

  • @alexiadesantis6204
    @alexiadesantis6204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Sasha's quad lutz is the only real quad lutz in women skating history. What a queen🥰👑

    • @gklfffdkphkhhkfcki4859
      @gklfffdkphkhhkfcki4859 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      if you don’t count the flat blade then yes

    • @alexiadesantis6204
      @alexiadesantis6204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gklfffdkphkhhkfcki4859 but... did you seen the outside edge..?

    • @gklfffdkphkhhkfcki4859
      @gklfffdkphkhhkfcki4859 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alexiadesantis6204 she has an outside edge but she uses a full blade which basically makes it a loop

    • @alexiadesantis6204
      @alexiadesantis6204 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gklfffdkphkhhkfcki4859 full blade is a jump technique, not the best technique, but the jump is definitly a lutz not a loop

    • @gklfffdkphkhhkfcki4859
      @gklfffdkphkhhkfcki4859 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@alexiadesantis6204 it’s an incorrect technique... it’s a toe pick jumps. not a blade jump

  • @marvinau8972
    @marvinau8972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I think the best lutz came from Rika, Liza, and Karen... 😊

  • @fuminggoogoo959
    @fuminggoogoo959 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    スロー再生で見ると紀平選手とトゥクタミシェワ選手の二人が綺麗なアウトサイドエッジ、そしてトゥでジャンプしているのがよくわかりますね。
    When watching in slow motion, you can clearly see that both Kihira and Tuktamysheva are jumping on beautiful outside edges and toes.

  • @fsvideos3166
    @fsvideos3166 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Imo Sasha’s lutz jumps are as good as Liza’s and Rika’s cuz Sasha’s are quads and theirs are triples.

  • @sirwonlu7475
    @sirwonlu7475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    karen chen lutz is incredible

  • @meda0001
    @meda0001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    awesome editing :)
    little mistake: at 04:20 you put the German flag instead of the Belgian flag

    • @SkateInsider
      @SkateInsider  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      oh noooo, i'm very sorry for that and thanks for point it out 😖

  • @neopotrebitel
    @neopotrebitel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video! please also do men's edition

  • @jesssssss
    @jesssssss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Heyo! I just wanted to ask because your videos are always so well produced-what editing software do you use? Your videos always turn out magnificently!

    • @SkateInsider
      @SkateInsider  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      thank you soo much! your comment truly made my day 😃 I use iMovie for video editing, it’s a very easy application and it’s free!!

    • @jesssssss
      @jesssssss 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SkateInsider Really? That's wild to hear, I've used iMovie before for school projects and I never would have guessed that you used it to produce these videos. Do you have any tutorials that you would suggest for learning how to utilize it better? I think that I clearly have some more learning to do, haha. 😉

  • @ArxApDob.90
    @ArxApDob.90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Похоже ученицы тутберидзе прыгая серьезные прыжки рассчитывают на болванов как мы. Много ошибок. Елизавета Туктм лучшая. Не ожидала что от тутберидзе все девочки портачат на каждом шагу.

  • @victoriawaterfield365
    @victoriawaterfield365 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    knew that empress' lutz will be the best even before watching the video
    liza is gorgeos!!!

  • @katiejacksonsmith8850
    @katiejacksonsmith8850 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Liza's goe are a home tf lmaoo... But also can we talk about the improvement of sasha's 4lutz! I wouldn't be surprised if it was completely clean by next season, she keeps improving so much!

  • @jskonstakningskanalen693
    @jskonstakningskanalen693 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful skaters and skating, as an adult figure skater myself, I know how hard it is to execute even a single jump.. so I am impressed of all the skaters that do all those jumps.

  • @arroblue
    @arroblue 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gorgeous of the most gorgeous lutzes of the Empress 😍😍😍

  • @Cherry-iq1xb
    @Cherry-iq1xb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Curious to see if there will be a men's video on this, asking for a friend;^)

    • @SkateInsider
      @SkateInsider  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yassss i have planned to upload it in a week or two, stay tuned!! 😏😏

    • @Cherry-iq1xb
      @Cherry-iq1xb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SkateInsider oooOOHHHH Now I'm real excited
      😆❤️

  • @AlwaysJuNe
    @AlwaysJuNe ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Liza's best text book lutz!!!

  • @water9951
    @water9951 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    @Skate Insider
    If possible, I would love to see the heights and distances of men’s jumps! I wonder whose jump is the biggest and highest🤔
    So sad Yuzuru won’t be the one for the world of this year I guess cause his performance and condition was far from the best...:(

  • @user-cp2bo3zm9s
    @user-cp2bo3zm9s 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Лиза, умничка😻😻😻

  • @catariation
    @catariation 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There's one thing I'm thinking:
    When a skater skates, if their techniques is just like textbook, the judges can give them +5's on GOE on the jumps, spins and stsqs then the judges minus back the points to the performance and choreography points if the program doesn't look "aesthetic" to them. For example:
    - Elizaveta should've received +4-5 GOE for her Lutz jumps because how well she executed them. On the contrary, her presentation and choreo not very pretty then the judges can reduce her points on that.
    - Anna's Lutz jumps should've been reduced the GOE down to below +3 because of the toepick, severe pre-rotation and wrong edges on them. But her presentation, choreo and transition look beautiful then the judges can increase her points on those.
    I mean, art is objective, but techniques have standards, you have to judge techniques of a skaters based on those standards. If the judges had given points that way then figure skating would've been a fair sport.

  • @pasqualealfano6301
    @pasqualealfano6301 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Liza's been a lutz queen for a looong time. It's just her jump

  • @anya-anya45
    @anya-anya45 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    У Лизы все прыжки как по учебнику 👍

  • @russki1978
    @russki1978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    With Anna even her entrance is barely outside. Most flutzers have a clear outside edge during the entrance and then change to flat or inside edge at the very last moment. Anna's outside edge lasts for only a microsecond and never goes deep even during the entrance phase. Her take-off edge is flat at best, probably more leaning to inside (too bad the camera angle is inconclusive). Her toe-pick is non existent. This is not a lutz by any standards. If anyone wants my opinion, the whole concept of GOE is a joke because it doesn't apply to the basic jump requirements as such. One can jump a lutz that doesn't meet any of the basic requirements for that jump and still earn 5 GOE. Who came up wih this nonsense anyway? If it doesn't apply to the jump itself it should be judged as PCS, not as GOE.

  • @user-ci5qr7tw4u
    @user-ci5qr7tw4u 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Liza and Rika has no pre-rotation but Sasha and Anna has pre-rotation, especiallu Anna has much more. And anna has no clear edge

  • @jimmymole8530
    @jimmymole8530 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unbelievable GOE by Alexandra Trusova,. The Quad Queen super.. Go Sasha.. 😘📸🚀

  • @letstalkaboutit3195
    @letstalkaboutit3195 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    NO WORDS JUST THE EMPRESS!!!!!!

  • @harpers1niter
    @harpers1niter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love you to make a video on all the different jumps and what makes them different. I watch and have no idea which jumps are which. Sometimes I can identify an axel. It goes so fast for an untrained eye.