Did I Get Weaker Using a Total Gym

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  • @hybridresistance
    @hybridresistance  ปีที่แล้ว

    Just posted an update short of me squatting for reps 275lbs you can find here th-cam.com/users/shortsqrB9f6djtkE But kind of crazy considering I was VERY sore days after my initial barbell workout from doing relatively light weight, low reps/sets in the squat. I could barely do a warm up, which is why I made this video. I really only had about 2 other leg days since I recorded this video and this update. I need to get some more weight plates, but goal is to get back to doing 315 for reps with ease.

  • @JayB-JayB
    @JayB-JayB ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I admire Mike. He uses whatever equipment is available and goes 100%.

    • @hybridresistance
      @hybridresistance  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Appreciate the positive comments as always Jay!

  • @robertcook2680
    @robertcook2680 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One has to consider one's purpose for working out. If one is focused simply on getting as strong as one can possibly get, just for the sake of being able to left heavy weights, free weights are a more effective tool. But what is the effective point of becoming packed with visible muscle and being able to lift hundreds of pounds of iron, other than for vanity? The main purpose most people work out, the reason everyone should work out, is to achieve and/or maintain overall physical fitness for the purpose of being able to live one's life more easily and effectively, to (hopefully) live longer and to maintain physical capabilities for as long as possible in that longer life. It would be silly for aspiring Schwarzeneggers to use the Total Gym to achieve that goal. But if one wants to be active in life with a minimum (or absence) of debility, pains, and aches, the Total Gym is a perfect tool! It provides in one compact piece of equiptment (with a few accessories, as desired) a tool that allows one to stretch and strengthen every part of one's body.

  • @radamoco
    @radamoco ปีที่แล้ว +9

    There may be potential to get stronger with iron weights, but there is also negatives (like more potential to injure yourself, space, cost, need a spotter, dislike exercising with them, etc). So for me, I get much closer to my goals with a TG and a Harambe. I seem to work out more consistently and in less time, get a decent cardio shot while doing it, and get injured less. That said, if I had space, time, and money, I would have a barbell gym also. I’d use TG for a lot of upper body, weights for the main lifts and going heavy, and Harambe for traveling.

    • @hybridresistance
      @hybridresistance  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Excellent practical points, thanks for that comment.

    • @iang8169
      @iang8169 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you tried using hammer strength machines at all ? The movement pattern they use mirrors the way you move free weights while your regular machine s move in a straight line . so you basically get the benefits of free weights but no risk for injuries .

    • @hybridresistance
      @hybridresistance  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@iang8169 loved the hammer strength machines in the gym. They were always some of my favorites. Stay tuned for my next video as I’ll be covering something that is related to those and actually mention hammer strength in the video.

  • @markturner4639
    @markturner4639 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Training specificity has already been mentioned, I think resistance bands have two more differences related to their variable tension than might not immediately translate to free weights. The first is the inverse of what James Grage teaches, the difficult sticking points of an exercise will be different, for better or worse (he maintains that as an advantage for resistance bands, but i think it requires adaptation). The other is that small changes in where you grab or anchor bands can make significant changes in tension, so it may be harder to really track progress than with free weights. The X3’s footplate and bar got a long way towards giving repeatable geometry, James on the other hand sells this variation as another advantage, but I’m unsure everyone will be good at replicating tension with hand held or foot anchored exercises.

    • @iang8169
      @iang8169 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Most research shows you get less muscle growth due to the variable resistance of resistance bands .
      Eg one bar bell bench press study had 3 groups a) one group did bottom half reps to failure b) one group did full reps to failure and c) one group did top half reps to failure .
      Group a) got 5% more muscle growth than group b) , while group c) got 10% less muscle growth than group b) .
      This backed other studies that also showed the bottom half of the rep is the max hypertrophy half , far more than the top half .
      Therefore benching 200 pounds to failure with a barbell ,ie 200 pounds both bottom and top halves , leads to much more hypertrophy than benching 125 pounds in the bottom half and 250-300 in the top using resistance bands , because with the barbell you are benching a lot more weight in the max hypertrophy half of the rep.
      Think of the guy in a gym on a leg press who loads 600 pounds on it and goes top half reps only to failure . he's always got skinny legs , because he's not working the bottom max hypertrophy half of the rep .
      Too often with resistance bands the bands are too slack in the bottom half ,so its really easy but you work really hard in the top half , ie you are like the guy on the leg press working his butt off doing 600'pound top half reps but getting no results due to not working the bottom half of the rep where most hypertrophy occurs

  • @jimperry4420
    @jimperry4420 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I went from weights to rings for three years. Was already big but got into really good shape. Went back to weights and like you, I was weaker in certain lifts. Built back up in no time. When I switch back to rings I get big time sore. So, I think that’s it’s just the new movement patterns that have to be relearned. Keeps things interesting for sure.

    • @hybridresistance
      @hybridresistance  ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely, I'm sure after a couple of weeks I'd get used to it. Just curious how long to get the bench back up mostly.

    • @jimperry4420
      @jimperry4420 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hybridresistance probably three months ish.

  • @phortunate1
    @phortunate1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Back in the day I worked out with weights. All good, then came the Nautilus training, circuit style. Never tried the bands, but I have been using the TG for over a year now, and as an older person, with some troubles in the balance department, I would not want to even experiment with free weights again. Likely an unsafe scenario for me. Especially when winded, I stand up from the TG and step over and sometimes feel a bit of disorientation. That being said, freee weights would test the balance more surely. I like the TG, and I always feel grounded and stable... until I get up sometimes. lol

  • @mczilla8628
    @mczilla8628 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ill take being a little weaker over being in pain most of time any day of the week. Good video mike

  • @damonb7511
    @damonb7511 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Realizing now that you are a little weaker, this would be the perfect time to use the Isochain and total gym/ bands together for a few months and then pick the weights up and see how much difference the Isochain made. Thanks for the great videos!

  • @ArrowRozz
    @ArrowRozz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree with you. It is all about what you want for yourself. I try and use all different equipment. I started with my total gym because that was all I had than I got some dumbbells and used them with my total gym as the bench. Wasn't quite such a challenge so I bought a Hoist home gym. and so now I do dumbbells, I use the home gym and I use the total gym. I do fluctuate week to week with strong lifts and weeker lifts. As long as you are lifting weights though I think that is what is important, and you are challenging yourself.

  • @craigmills7280
    @craigmills7280 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Mike. I got into total gym training by being inspired by your channel. I find this video so interesting. I have being using total gym 5 days a week for 4 months now. No weights etc. But do use bands on squats. My body looks better and more defined than when i was using weights. As well as no aches or niggles. I think i personally enjoy being 'weaker' by not using weights but enjoying the pain free body and like you said in your older video. Have a body like Hawkeye..

    • @hybridresistance
      @hybridresistance  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome to hear that testimony brother, thank you for sharing that and for the positive words.

  • @mcalvoCR
    @mcalvoCR ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I really like your channel, since we are similar age, I would like to kindly reminder that 4 years in our age range is quite a time to see differences in performance, strenght and movility overall. I think your point is very accurate and I had always thinking that mix all disciplines could help us to reach our personal goals. So keep on the good work! God bless you and your family!

    • @hybridresistance
      @hybridresistance  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you brother! Thank you for reaching out and mentioning that relevant comment. We are getting older! May God bless you to.

  • @taylorpark3544
    @taylorpark3544 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do a Push Pull Legs split twice per week; one PPL split with free weights/bands and the other PPL split with the Total Gym.
    I'm most fresh for the free weights the first PPL split and while I'm trying to get my 2nd PPL split the Total Gym is just gentler but still challenging for me, and keeps me to trashing my body too hard.
    So honestly there are lovely ways to use this machine.
    Sometimes if I am pretty wiped but still feel the itch for a workout, I'll just swap to my Total Gym instead of free weights and bands to make sure I'm getting the right stimulus without too much taxing me.
    But thats just me. I have a little more fun with my Total Gym to be honest, but thats just because free weights and bands are just a lot more taxing to me and I progress slower on free weights.
    Ironically I tend to overdo what I can do with free weights but manage to do just the right amount of volume and work with my Total Gym. Its a lot of fun and I'm grateful you've introduced me to it.
    The commercials over the years have always had me rolling my eyes, but seeing you have so much fun with it inspired me last year to get my own and man am I glad I did.
    Everyone gets stronger and weaker in different phases of life and honestly I've had to increase range of motion and fix all sorts of imbalances before getting stronger and while I'm not as strong as before, I am super happy with my flexibility, range of motion and balances now vs how strong I was before.

    • @hybridresistance
      @hybridresistance  ปีที่แล้ว

      This was a great read and something very similar I've heard said by many. Thank you for sharing all of this.

  • @DaviWalt
    @DaviWalt ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s definitely best to mix it up from time to time…. muscle confusion.

  • @buddyryan875
    @buddyryan875 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This gets argued about all the time in groups. Strength is really how much force you can generate. A better measure is your isomax number. When you do barbell movements there is a huge neuromuscular learning curve. Your numbers would shoot up really fast over the course of several weeks as the body relearns the movement skill of the lift. I've saw this first hand with countless people. So would would wear and tear on the joints along with risk of injury. If being stronger meant better musculature then powerlifters should be more muscular than bodybuilders. I will stick with Total Gym, X3, and Isomax and not look back

  • @cacaloca5434
    @cacaloca5434 ปีที่แล้ว

    I started using my xls again in Jan 2023 after a long break. Ive definately noticed myself more muscle weight gain and definition, and people have told me as well. Back around May I went to my friends gym and hit all kinds of machines and found the total gym had helped me alot for preperation. My friends were suprised that I was hitting shoulders quite well. I was the weakest when it came to using the pendulum squat machine. I couldnt even use it with a plate lol

  • @kennyhaynie3653
    @kennyhaynie3653 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it would be really cool to see you experiment with Blood Flow restriction training while using a sliding bench.

  • @mrqualityreviewer4752
    @mrqualityreviewer4752 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If it builds and maintains muscle it’s all good

  • @fighttechnician8676
    @fighttechnician8676 ปีที่แล้ว

    My strength declined using the Total Gym. I attach bands to the Total Gym and my strength keeps increasing as
    I also attach stronger bands. I use lower rep sets with more resistance as higher reps increase muscle size but I lose strength. I do no more than 5 reps per work set.

  • @fredthompson2846
    @fredthompson2846 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video Mike ! I always enjoy the time you take to do these videos

    • @hybridresistance
      @hybridresistance  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Fred, always appriciate you guys for watching.

  • @bobbybernard5977
    @bobbybernard5977 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a total gym titanium for 400$ to try it out and i like it. I’m gonna need to upgrade to a other model with weight bar options for more gains.

  • @eladmitchell752
    @eladmitchell752 ปีที่แล้ว

    absolutely mike,i think that because barbells &dumbells are more compound on the muscle so itll make u stronger,a t.g. still build muscle and shape it,but building muscle period is good with bands,dumbells, barbells,t.g.sometimes ill train chest,1.dum pr.2.t.g.pr....3.band.mixing them up

    • @hybridresistance
      @hybridresistance  ปีที่แล้ว

      I mentioned in the video, I do think the dbs carry over pretty well from the total gym just not so much with the barbell. I like what you're doing there Elad!

  • @johnnyappleseed2277
    @johnnyappleseed2277 ปีที่แล้ว

    So you recommend using weights because it develops better hypertrophy VS. Total gym workouts. I have a total gym in it does help me out and making myself more leaner which I notice and it gives you better definition. Looking more ripped then just putting on size.. but everyone has their own preference some people might just try to look for a way to get ripped then just put on size and strength.

    • @hybridresistance
      @hybridresistance  ปีที่แล้ว

      I really would just say I got weaker in the specific barbell lifts which makes sense. But I did a follow up short short / videos shoes that I quickly got that barbell strength back. It really depends on a some variables, but I'd take my TG over my weights if I had to choose between the two for hypertrophy. For strength, I'd go weights.

  • @EvelynAndEleanor
    @EvelynAndEleanor ปีที่แล้ว

    Whole video couldn't stop staring at "Dumbbell Stand And Plate Tree V3" Looks like the best solutions to hold powerblocks that I've seen (other than that ones people custom build). Guessing that is your favorite that you found?

  • @cwsmith17
    @cwsmith17 ปีที่แล้ว

    I solely focus on hypertrophy. Thanks for another great video.

  • @captainguns9761
    @captainguns9761 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m not sure if describe it as weaker i would say it’s a case of out of practice with the weights. I would say strength would be back to normal if u did the weights couple of weeks just to get into practice & also if u stop doing bands then the bands Myt feel hard if was the other way

    • @hybridresistance
      @hybridresistance  ปีที่แล้ว

      100% I tried to stress more specifically with the traditional bb lifts. Definitely more so in the bench/squat. I'm going to experiment with implementing these back in to see how it takes to get back to where I was. Downside is I'm going to need to buy more weights.

    • @captainguns9761
      @captainguns9761 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nothing compares to having a forced month of training then u will see what loss of strength is. It was actually hilarious doing a bench press after a month off injured I could barely lift anything 😂

  • @4kats
    @4kats ปีที่แล้ว

    This isn't in relation to total gym vs free weights. I recently went back to barre workouts. Been using my trampoline, total gym and t-tapp workout. I did feel very weak at the barre. It's a different type of exercise. If I take breaks from the various forms of fitness I do, I have noticed I don't feel as strong for those exercises.

    • @hybridresistance
      @hybridresistance  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I do think it's a matter of specific carry over. I know people that have commented coming from weights to a TG and are surprised how gassed out they are as they aren't used to it.

    • @4kats
      @4kats ปีที่แล้ว

      @SlidingBenchTrainer yes thats what I felt at barre. Like wow I'm in good shape why can't I do the reps and felt very weak on some of the exercises. Very challenging

  • @mariopellegrino7661
    @mariopellegrino7661 ปีที่แล้ว

    The truth is that even if you went to calisthenics only you would get weaker too. The goal for people who gravitate to things like the Total Gym isn't necessarily huge increases in strength but rather some moderate increases in strength along with improving fitness and toning. I'm not disappointed, that's what I was expecting to be honest.
    Slightly off topic, but have you ever looked at some of those NY calisthenics guys? Do you think that the Total Gym would produce similar results to what they're seeing?

    • @hybridresistance
      @hybridresistance  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great points, I have seen some of those guys yes. They're awesome. I do think you could get those same physiques with a TG. But just everything, I think a lot depends on the application.

  • @3Pillers
    @3Pillers ปีที่แล้ว

    If you stopped using the Total gym for six months, and lifted weights instead, do you think you Total gym performance would decline?

  • @eladmitchell752
    @eladmitchell752 ปีที่แล้ว

    great point mike

  • @daveclark5491
    @daveclark5491 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is the SAID principle, this means Specialized Adaptation to Individual Demands. So if you train on machines then change to free weights you will seem to be weaker. The same applies the other way, Each type of training uses a different skill set, so this is literally comparing Oranges to Lemons. This is NOT a loss in strength, No one can do everything and the body will always respond differently.

    • @hybridresistance
      @hybridresistance  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes 100% Would be too long of title to give it it's proper context, but tried to do that in the video.

  • @liljoe7171
    @liljoe7171 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great topic that, unless I missed, u didnt ad age as a factor. Yes, u're getting older, sorry! Ha! I've gotten weaker also because of changes to training....yes, different equip but also by choice...I've had to pull it bak because of double hernia surgery and motorcycle accident and of course, age. I hav two luvs(hobby-wise)...playing my drums and wrkn out, if I hav to reign myself in by changing what I lift and how much I lift, then I will in order to be able to keep doing it. Good stuff!

    • @hybridresistance
      @hybridresistance  ปีที่แล้ว

      Great practical points and comment. I now understand when I used to see the old powerlifters >50yrs old wrapping / unwrapping knees for about 5 minutes to get a set of 5 reps done.

  • @jamescorsey6041
    @jamescorsey6041 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I do weights I get super hungry when I do total gym hunger is not that strong at all.i like the tg better but if I don't do tg I will occasionally go to gym still

    • @hybridresistance
      @hybridresistance  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely true about the hunger, but I also get that if I add extra cardio at the end of a session as well. I was going to make a video on that as well about the value in possibly supplementing with a cheap gym membership on occasion.

  • @heavenbound7
    @heavenbound7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Proverbs 27:17
    KJV Bible
    Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.

  • @wilfredotorres6628
    @wilfredotorres6628 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Sliding Bench Trainer, Weights of course put a lot of strain on the joints. The BullWorker device employs isometric muscle strength, and it is an old idea that you get stronger by incorporating it with strength training case in point Bruce Lee who for his size and weight was incredibly strong not to mention fast. Another explosive strength training method is Plyometrics very much used in Russia use for overall power and strength without the use of weights a proven science

    • @hybridresistance
      @hybridresistance  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe it's more the application of weight training that places undue stress on the joints. I love isometrics as well, but even that isn't without concern of potential injury if not used properly. True plyometrics is great, but also something not to be messed with without proper instruction and solid foundation. Also the Soviets essentially wrote the book on modern day strength conditioning with weight training. Excellent book on this is "Supertraining" by Verkhoshansky where he explains the Russian techniques on strength training and plyometrics (used to be call shock training by them). Much of what we as strength coaches use to this day are still used from their research / applications. Appreciate the comment brother.

  • @intellectualninjamonkey2496
    @intellectualninjamonkey2496 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you got weaker or you just became less good in lifting barbells?
    Maybe you didn't lost strength,you just lost skill...
    Subscribed anyway...

    • @hybridresistance
      @hybridresistance  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Less Good at Barbells" should have been the title. Could have used you when I was thinking about that. Just got done with a leg session and bounced back to 275 for reps no problem. So you were dead on that one. Thanks for subscribing brother.

  • @daleschwartz3795
    @daleschwartz3795 ปีที่แล้ว

    So you giving up the total gym? I mean you are weaker

    • @hybridresistance
      @hybridresistance  ปีที่แล้ว

      course not brother, as I said in the video really only weaker in the bb bench/squat. But workin on bringing those back.

  • @mrsh2167
    @mrsh2167 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The word weaker carries an unfortunate and inaccurate negative connotation. It borders on silly, unless you are a professional power lifter. Mike's physique speaks for itself. 99% of men want what he has and women want something comparable, achievable for women without artificial hormones. Looking at you, I laugh to think you are weak. You are not 30 anymore but you appear more muscular now than you did in your videos some 10 years ago