OldSchool RuneScape Will Fade if Jagex Keeps Ignoring This
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- OldSchool RuneScape Will Fade if Jagex Keeps Ignoring This
F2P OldSchool RuneScape is full of bots. Questing bots, merching bots,
fishing bots, woodcutting bots, mining bots, and so many more.
New players test F2P to see if they enjoy the game, and this is what
they see. If Jagex does not act, potential players will continue
to be turned off from the game.
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This is not criticizing specific JMods, but is meant to address the people who allocate Jagex's time and money. Spend it on cleaning up your game.
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The bots at the lumbridge fountain are filling jugs of water. Much bigger profit from that
They either fix this or sink with this broblem. Only thing is... I love this game and wish it to last years to come. Not go down because botting.
i dont know why jmods can't ban the ip of those guys who are using bots
@@aaronsanz5958 That is because IP's change.
The real question is how far the number of “loyal” players would drop from 98,000 if all the bots got removed..
Thats what kinda keeps me up at night, is that most people just play 2-3 accs at once minimum, myself included, plus all the bots online at any given moment, even right after an update. After a nuke though id suspect if everyone who botted, rwt'd, and otherwise broke rules we'd be down to like 25-40k concurrent if they were all banned
@@ArighettoText nah. Bots are probably 15-20% of the population. Also 2-3 accounts is not normal. Vast majority of casual players play 1. Average will be like 1.2
Name nom this keeps you up at night? Ummmm....? Lol...?
@@toxy3580 I completely agree. Even though I multiple accounts I don't often play them at the same time. I think people get this impression from streamers.
I have more than 1 account but I rarely play 2 at once.. mainly because I play on mobile though alot of the time though.
I like how runescapes own music makes this video sound more ominous like a dateline episode lol
Well said, Kunt Destroyer
"Like a dateline episode" 😂
Hi, I'm Chris Hansen from "To Catch a Bot Farm." Were you about to make a 2gp profit off these store items?
😂😂😂
I would rather have a bot nuke before new expansions and more content
same :)
the economy would be crazy
@@fryricelover3358 I love a good ecenomic shake-up! Figuring out prices is the most fun part of Runescape.
imean regardless of if u get a nuke or not they will just rewrite bots
All Im saying is the economy was better in runescape 2010-2012 then oldschool and eoc and there was alot of bots back then
Dude the Economy in this game has changed so much since I’ve started playing a month ago. Bots are everywhere
The only solution is creating a brand new game from scratch that is buy to play with various membership options and a focus less on currency and more on skills and trading.
But their playerbase loves the old mechanics, even to abuse some of them.
I moved over to RS3 and made an Ironman. Not affected by bots and don’t get handheld by Runelite/osbuddy etc. Actually enjoying rs again! Os is just dead to me now tbh, love the content out of it but actually playing just bugs me out now lol
Part of it was the update a month ago, with each new update with new content meta is always changing at random and prices will rise and fall on the ge
@@UFCUEAU rs3 is dead long gone ur playing with Casper in rs3
@@UFCUEAU RS3 is pretty lit nowadays and we are really excited to see the effects on the move to Steam!
Is it just me or is sad that we, as a community, have to go through media platforms to seek jagex/runescape support on critical issues??
Jagex support system is shit .they dont give afk .just more bonds more $$$
Corey Freeman yeah tbats true jagex its the worst game suprt ever
mustafa mohamed literally yes. They see bots as more profit because the bots can typically be banned for the most part within two weeks which means more bonds are bought per two week period by gold farmers
@@jamesdaffy191 Guess you u havent played Riot games then. :)
pugger wants that sweet ad revenue.. he's not complaining
Jagex neglecting huge problems like BH2 for so long genuinely worries me. It hurts the economy so so bad.
F2P HAS to be put on a higher priority too. The bots are not only ruining the game for new players, but for us who play the game actively in the long run.
Their ideology is propably "F2P means no money for us = minimal time invested".
@One and Only as they should? There is a huge player base that plays specifically for BH. There are 100 things they could have done better to fix the boosting problem, rather than just nuking it completely. That was a move made out of pure laziness and neglect, as the original comment said.
Osrs has been progressively dying over the past 2 years, the pking scene is now that bad I have no interest in playing again
Ya F2P just isn't fun anymore. It used to take like me like 2 weeks to grind a bond now it takes a month or more. Honestly if they would just talk with the RS3 team and get their bot detection put on OSRS then you would see a change but you'd also see probably 10's of thousands of bots be deleted and the player base would shrink to single 1000's.
Bonds inflated by about 20%, what a joke
Trying to cut trees, with a million bots is pretty nostalgic
Kyouko Toshino yeah it’s always been a part of the game lol
LMAO Funny because its annoyingly true
Shit's been around since the beginning of time.
@Defender ofOasis The British server?
Never were there back in the day. Got 99 wc in 2007.
Solution: Give SirPugger moderator/permaban abilities.
This will also unlock a whole new slew of content, giving us hilarious videos of Pug bot-busting, deleting, and banning left & right. Gielinor would be bot-free in no time.
Player mod Pugger would be OP
You might be joking but, really I could see this actually helping a lot.
This would be really interesting, but it would not stop not making at the source.
Adding another player just to ban bots ain't going to do it.... they need to beef up their system to impair the bots...
Jagex do not want too much bot busting, because bots in general bring in revenue.
Killed 11 bots on my first attempt with the clay method. Very satisfying, would recommend.
Edit: OMG, just discovered that the bots come back after respawning to pick up their loot. If they are killed every time, they could potentially be trapped like this for hours!
I intend on doing this myself tomorrow lmao
Excellent.
Still works!
Make a bot that mines clay to trade to a bot that drops the clay to the wizards
@@Wuzzy97 Their killing it more like no one wants to mine or anything else for that matter for an hr to earn a few k which buys them literally nothing the game dying end of.
Torvesta: Closes BH
Pugger: *CLOSES OSRS*
Stole my comment from another video! shame on you sir, shame on you!
Did I? Terribly sry if I did 😅
@@AscendedHazard It's alright, I'll let you off this time around
How I feel
@@KidzOnDidz Clearly it wasn't original enough if someone posted the exact same thing. Makes me wonder if I really am living in a simulation full of NPCs
This is why movies like The Terminator or The Matrix will never happen, all the AI is too busy playing video games.
The best comment
I'd like to see bots gone. Someone said that if it wasn't for bots, prices of many items wouldn't be so cheap.. although, I agree with this statement, It also deters people from skilling and accumulating certain items because it wont be worth their time to do so (because prices are so low). I miss the times I could; mine, woodcut, or fish and make decent gp/hr
Cheap doesn't matter when u can't make money unless your a maxed account
@@g.h7657 can't make money? There's many low level ways to make money. but many of them are obscure, or have v specific reqs.
@@chronophilos5606 im already pretty much a veteran at this point i just wish i didn't have to grind so much when i was still a noob. And its even worse now for noobs then when i was playing
@@g.h7657 true.
My problem with bots is that they seriously spiked bond prices while at the same time killed the four methods I was using to make money, so effectively, I'd have to play around 40h a week up 24h from the 16h a week I used to be able to get away with and still make money.
Damn remember the good times when you grind the game like mining fishing or woodcutting and just say randomly “hey guys“ :,) and you’d get a “hi”or “welcome” actually encouraging socializing in a virtual world ....
And now you don’t even say much because we all know they’re bots ..
All you get is silence now , absolute silence ... :,(
That depends on where you skill. 90% of actual players are in members.
DyliosG I still have a lot of social contact with random people doing the skill I’m doing.
Be like "fishing levels?" "Woodcut level?"
It's so hard to keep my self invested in runescape anymore. You can bot to max, you can buy infernal capes, the community is pretty toxic and elitist. Nobody wants to do quests together or do any "inefficient" bosses together. Why go kill KBD/Mole/Zammy when you can go vorkath and make 3m per hour? None of the early-midgame stuff is fun, all the grinding is really boring, pking is dead, the sand casino is an actual pit of scamming/rwting. I wouldn't be surprised if you discount the bots/alts you end up with a 20k player base.
Without good clan chats or friends that play OSRS is basically a single player game.
LMFAOOOOO the vials of water farm is the funniest shit I’ve ever seen.
let's say they fill 8k vials an hour that's 192k vials a day per bot so 100 bots would fill About 19m vials a day it's actually good money
@@Equetus-t6d yeah but so many better ways to make money lol and so blatant
@@Equetus-t6d theres no fucking way they do 8k an hour. Lol
@@IFeelWeakwho cares how much you make, the bots make the gp for you lmao
There not vials guys it’s jugs of water usually
3:22
>"These wretched automata, shunned by the humans, have been forced into the bowels of our sewers. Here they survive on blighted ratflesh as they wait for the gods to avert their eyes, for only a moment, so that they may go out and wreak havoc upon the world."
They're so advanced they're even writing their own lore now.
Immediately after this video I hopped on world 335 and spent 5 minutes dropping clay. Got 10 bots killed. Now I'm just standing here watching as they all run over to the dark wizards over and over again.
DrxFluffeeee a true hero.
Dont forget the iron bots on the other side
Haha yeah I was doin this on my iron and was killing groups of bots. i got other people to watch and we were all dying laughing at the broken ass bots lmfao
@@geranimojump good lookin out my dude I have something to do while I'm bored lmao
I use to do this with feather farming bots by bringing them to the manor trees that would smack them to death. Good money but idk if people dying out of pvp zones still drop their stuff?
Idk how they can even think about "new and exclusive content" while this is going on.......
Botters = lower and plentiful resources for normal players keeping their game alive and slightly stable and $$$ for jagex
We need fancier sprites and animations for the new boss!!!!!
whatsBF3 sad bit true. I can not think of any other game that is so heavily infested with bots.
all that brain power is in their new game lol
osrs gets all the unused shitty ideas
same with rs3
that new ip gonna be banging
at least they think.
They don’t ban these guys but they ban me for “botting” when I was simply afking a seagull with my mage pure while watching yt
McNasty you get autologged if no commands are put in. So they probably thought you were macroing. If your account was doing the same thing for five minutes straight and not logging it’s flagged as suspicious.
nlh719 that’s pretty dumb tbh. I was literally wanting to do the easiest and cheapest method to get him up and you can’t even do that lol. It’s not even like a warning or anything I couldn’t even appeal it. They just outright ban you and say “yeah sorry bud that’s too bad”
McNasty sadly it’s probably because you might not bought a bond or purchased membership before for that account. Idk but RIP.
nlh719 bu bu I did get membership for em aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa lmao their system probably needs a rework because I wasn’t the only one. Apparently streamers had it happen mid stream but of course they got theirs back cause...they were streaming it and one of the runescape people was watching it and got it fixed in no time
McNasty hmm yeah you got to make things known on social media these days to get quality service and feedback for anything.
I started up osrs again a few days ago. I haven’t played in years. Whenever I’m skilling it is dead silent and I feel like the majority of people i come across are bots. What the f happened to this game
Mixture of botting less social interaction because of xp/hour. Disappointing and as much as I love the game it still ruins the nostalgia
@ReddeadPH 051 eisenherd666
I put it down to people watching YT and ignoring the chat while they fill an invent.
Add me too new player ahd100
to many people try hard the fucking game because its all about MAX EFFICIENCY. so the majority you think are bots, are just anti social try hards, its sad really.
Really appreciate you calling this to attention. I'm appreciative of all that Weath does, but he can't stop a problem this big alone. Jagex (or their investors) really needs to invest in the long term health of their game and give him a dedicated team to fix the issue. A bot nuke would make me happier than any content update.
The only real way of combating this long term is making a C++ client, not Java. Java classes can too easily be deobbed and injected into. Bots on a C++ client are way more costly to make and sometimes not profitable enough to even try. Jagex is wholly owned by Tencent: they have the money to make this happen.
@@checkyourfax Not a bad idea, and I think that it would initially slow bot development down, but once someone creates a bot-making toolkit it would just start back up again. And the guy maintaining the toolkit would probably make even more money. This is just a typical arms race, and Jagex can do little to predict the future of botting. I think the best they can do is keep up to date with new bots, and hire more people to hunt them and patch them before they can do too much harm.
There's also a huge cost involved in recoding something massive like RS. Would probably take years, and require dozens of new devs that can actually code in C++. And in that time mistakes will be made and bugs introduced that might harm the game even more. So it's gonna be a trade-off.
I wonder what percentage of time Jagex devotes to bot handling vs actual content.
I find these videos very entertaining and also glad he informs us and Jagex about this.
But there is no way to stop bots forever it will always be a back and forth fight. Even if there was no irl profit for gold farmers which I don't think they could control. People would still bot for fun and bot to level accounts or to advertise or troll. Maybe if nobody knew about the game to begin with then there could be no botting, but as soon as something becomes popular like RuneScape has for so many years it becomes a Target for the curious scripter or for those who want to test their skills or see a business opportunity.
@@checkyourfax Jagex only just recently fully removed Java support on rs3 and now fully utilizes C++. They've had a really good antibot system since before NXT (rs3 C++ client) was even mentioned, let alone in beta. I'm not sure why they haven't been able to carry rs3's antibot system over to OSRS. It's not Java that's the issue. My guess is that it's the amount of players that are actually bot accounts, removing bots might lower the player number enough that it would be financially damaging to Jagex.
Investors are the bot farm
LOL!
Just 2 hours after posting this people are Hardcore luring level 3s from the clay to dark wizards. I got there and there were already like 5 people luring bots lol!!
bad part about that is all the botter has to do is get them to not pick up clay then its back to full progress then the bank bots that pick up the clay would have to run a diffrent code thats all, someone who is running this level of bot could change that code and implement the change in like 1-2 hours maybe faster so this will only work for like 2-3 days till they notice there bots aren't making as much as the week before then they just go back to working again
@@prayerko253 Yeah theyve already "fixed it" the botters that is lol not Jagex
The whole system is screwed. If youre a legit player you realize that the only reason you are playing is for yourself as there's no competition anymore. The people who spend the most money on private scripts, private servers, and invest all their in-game time into farming gold on multiple suicide chars, laundry the gp, rinse and repeat once banned, are what ruins the game for everyone. People spend $100s of dollars just to ruin the game lol. Don't think that most of the people botting are successful entrepreneurs making $100k a year, they're losers. It wouldn't even bother me so much if someone botted one char for personal skills but the economy is no fun and Jagex ultimately loses out on building a potentially much larger community.
Conspiracy theory: jamflex only bans bots at a minimum level to increase the active player numbers
I agree, because I don't see that many players wanting to do nostalgia gaming seriously.. chat system sucks, graphics suck and grinds stupid pain.. WTF anvil all miles from smelter really?
I know I've been reported atleast 100 times in the last few months. Everything from RWT to Spamming to Gambling Bots. Jagex doesnt care. Honestly, countries like Venezuela, who rely on this shit for actual money, keep the game going. Not the couple thousand real, say max players.
I don't think is about the numbers, but about the economy... It would really fuck it up.
@@natedrake555 how are people from Venezuela making money off this?
@@LukeoXx yo, like a year ago the US put some sanctions on Venezuela, it lead too a massive power outage in their country. You shoulda seen prices of supplies. Basically, RSGP is worth more than their currency's. So they have whole complexes of computers just running bots.
Remember when this was a passion project? Jagex doesn't either.
Remember when any business operated on “passion” rather than money? Yeah I don’t either
Aren't Andrew and Paul both gone now?
@@gameglitcher Definitely, both are retired / working on projects that won't ever see the light of day.
The cooking sound is literraly the sound of one of the founders mom cooking bacon
the whole game was started 20 years ago to make money. Mod ash found out about it from a mutual friend of andrew that said andrew made a game where players click rocks and he makes money lol, and mod ash said "i got to get me some of that" LOL
Love how you and other content creators are doing your best to shed light (in a respectful way) on the failings of Jagex. You give me hope.
Solution: make bots that drop the clay trail. Fight fire with fire.
I actually cackled at this. Fight bots with bots
that'll just make the bots ramp-up immunity... kinda like viruses
Laughed when he said yew logs were 170ish gp like damn man you can cut oaks for more profit ☠
If you can find a tree
Idk about that chief, also there are always trees free at the GE, right side where the body rune is.
Isnt it like 30gp for yew now?
Not to mention like 100+ yew logs are a common drop from Revenants which are also highly botted and farmed.
i know where you live no they don’t. That would be willows
solution to all? bring back those old randoms they attack you when you ignore them
Cant cause if you went afk or so it could mean death
@@williamszy2827 Don't afk then... simple and with the new death mechanic aint much of a loss.
Will likes Dill good then don’t leave your computer like the stronghold of security will tell you.
I can tell some people don't play HC ironmans and it shows...
@@Daryl.Guzman That was your choice not ours.
Im from the future
Jagex: We have just temporarily removed Romeo and Juliet to combat the issues😂
Naw but seriously I hope this gets fixed, because I love the game and don't wanna see it go out like this =(
Want my possible solution to be seen, you think it might work?
Solution: If a character has been doing the same task for X hours, a red chat message is sent to saying "You have been doing the same task for X hours, please do XXX task to prevent banning"
Its unlikely a player will do the same task for 6 hours straight, by providing a random task a player can do it quickly whereas it might be harder for bots to be programmed to do the random task
They could easily rebalance it by changing the number of QP it grants and reallocating those to more difficult quests. Five quest points for such an easy quest is a little absurd when it only takes seven to remove the trade restriction.
@@midge9511 i do 6 hours of vorkath a day so rip me :D
Also botters could easily get past that
Just make the bot program detect that message and when it pops up use like teamviewer and hire some chinese people to to that stuff for you :D
Asking Jagex what they are doing to stop F2P botting:
"Must have a valid email to create a new account"
Got it, that should be enough
Um, a different one for each or?....
Tom Hill u can type anything as ur signup email
@@Exploshi Wait really? Well then why did I even bother?
exploshi Are you kidding me? That’s.. the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard in an MMO.
This needs to be a new crab meme.
Lmao classic because you don't even have to verify the email.
When I was fishing on karamja The bots there were actually typing to avoid getting banned. Things like lmao27si292 or 23wtf8jd383 so weird
Yea that used to be a common bot behavior back in the day. If you ttped a players name like hey duckman then duckman would respond hello whats up or some other generic phrase some of the good ones would say different things but you could always spot a bot
Catherby fishing spots, I’ve been fishing there and seen ppl typing random stuff to avoid getting banned
duude thefu Did he get the pipungus?
Bots going bananas ir karamja xD
Saw this once too few days ago!
I quit my ironman after realising that BH could be abused for 1+ years for benefits and jagex didnt care. Would have left it indefinitely unless big creators pushed the issue publicly. lack of integrity will kill the game for sure
EDWARD EYYYYYYYYYYYYY, What going on man? havent heard from you in awhile, did you quit Terraria for OSRS?
I'm not aware of these issues, cuz I never played OS. Anyone could explain me what Jagex did on BH?
I remember when RuneScape was about having fun
Good ol' times
Alex van der Plas it’s just isn’t that fun anymore because everything is about efficiency
@@Beanster25 personally I like to find the most efficient way but back in the day when i was younger I did not and I definitely had more fun then. Unfortunately, however, I think that has more to do with us being older than with the actual game.
Can cofirm:
My favorite part of the game is gathering raw materials to sell for profit. This is now the worst part of the game thanks to betting, so I don't play anymore.
Need to stop betting bro
We used to have the same issue in RS3. What changed, whether through dev intention or not, was that raw materials were injected into PVM under common and uncommon rolls. Herbs, Fish, and Logs are regular drops in our updated GWD. I know that Zulrah had a massive nerf to combat this from happening in OSRS though. What allows for this to be balanced in RS3 is the sheer item sinks we have in our game. An entire skill is built around literally destroying materials in bulk. Bots were decimated. Unfortunately, I think Osrs will have to accept a new item sink skill to get on the right path.
@ archy, why did the item sink decimate bots? I think the item sink sounds great for increasing the value of materials and crafted items, but wouldnt that just inspire more bots to be created?
@@Archy__ Item sinks create a bigger market for items. As items leave the game for good, the demand will be the same but the supply will get lowered meaning prices will go up.
I'm addicted to BETTING
There needs to be a quest designed that is essentially a captcha quest. The captcha quest needs to be audio in nature and visual that bots will struggle to answer if at all. DUring the quest there needs to be a dozen captcha objectives in each quest as well as randomized from a pool of many captchas. The new accounts also should have a drop restriction. The drop restriction should destroy items if that player drops items without having done this captcha quest. So that takes care of drop trading, forces bot makers to have to do the captchas. Just my input, i dont wanna see my favorite game destroyed by botters. Keep up the good work pugger
I like this idea. Forcing bot operators to invest time into the bots will make the loss of each bot hurt. And you can make bots bans happens a lot more by places bounties on reported bots. Get the gold hungry noobs to do the work. Those noobs will make gold jewelry and sell it in the fishing town for gold, they're desperate.
They’ll just make a stronger bot /: good idea but it’d have to have several if not several thousand random things in that quest that you can’t just bot the same thing every time.. mm
What makes you think people wont do them by hand for their bots?
Just for your info, there's services out there where you can send a captcha image to, and a human-based captcha solving service solves it for you within like 10-15 seconds, for fractions of cents. What makes you think something like this wouldn't be done for these kind of quests?
This could potentially kill the game for deaf players.
Theory: the bots make the game look "alive" to those who are unfamiliar with just how versatile these bots are. I am sure many f2p would be aware of bots, but many of these bots would pass the f2p players' Turing tests and make them think they're actual players. Some bots even have prewritten responses to certain trigger phrases. I think Jagex is aware that the bots are making the game appear less dead than it is, and that if they do address it then all their f2p worlds WILL look rather dead.
I think its more likely that they dont want to spend time / money building a system for a part of the game that brings them no profit.
@savvas S he totally might be into something what of the bots are coming right from jagex? Mimicing battleroyale's quick dopamine strategy?
That's an easily solvable problem though. If F2P worlds aren't getting a lot of traffic, then Jagex can straight up decrease the number of F2P servers available, to force more F2Pers onto a single server. Sure, it might make grinding easy money strats harder cause there's less worlds to jump to, but if you thanos-snap most of the bots, then there should be more available resources for free players. Plus, demand stays the same and supply should decrease cause no bots, so real players would be able to grind money faster again.
@@alexliu101 wouldnt we have one server thats full with bots 24/7 then? That will kill ftp players even faster
Fair point
I really want the bot nuke to happen, however this will mean missing out on quality bot busting video's!
ayy kidz on didz
Game would be empty... if Jagex did that..
@@leem9886 Not true, last bot nuke did not destroy the game. It was micro transactions.
Selfish
Just missing one thing, the last bot nuke was from a leaked email list of over 250k emails and had nothing to do with jagex's bot busting system so if they somehow managed to do it again, the farms would just be slightly affected for a short period of time and would continue to fuck up the game we all love
OSRS as of now, specifically F2P OSRS feels like a singleplayer game. You can't communicate with half the players, because you know they're bots.
To add, it's probably just me, but I lost my account(Unfortunately didn't use 2FA, which I guess is completely on me), and ever since I've been trying to restart - Well, I've just felt like it just isn't, nor was what it used to be.
Gary yeah I pretty much felt the same way until I found a good clan chat. Now I just skip around to the least populated worlds to avoid as many bots as possible and just talk in clan chat.
@@MoChuang343 Can I possibly join it? I'd love to just join a community where I can talk whilst playing. It'd definitely get me active some more.
Play anothsr rpg game. Theres plenty of them
I left after 10+years. It's dead now. They let bots take everything.
Gary yeah all F2P players are welcome. It’s clan chat “W 385”
BRING BACK RANDOM EVENTS THAT SAVAGE YOU!
Today's bots can do them. They could do them in 2008, I'm sure they're beyond capable now
The reason those were removed in the first place is because they did nothing to prevent macroing (bots could do the random events) and they were just a nuisance to legit players
@@martijnbavelaar4435 Thats a solid example. I mean the script writers aren't dumb, but I would be okay with having something really annoying to deal with as long as it got rid of botting.
Pandonium 32 yessssssssss
They need lagunarium bot that just spawns and stacks you a 37 barrage into a 81-35 ags gmaul
Just pay 1 person to hop around worlds that can see inventories and they can determine bots and ban them. That would make a huge difference. Literally one person interviewed and hired by Jagex.
Dude, that’s too logical. Wtf you talkin about?
TiltedTexan ikr idk why they don’t fix it I think they have a hand in some of the botting since you can make so much money off of it
A viable bot farm can produce hundreds of of new bots per day. One person on salary going around and checking inventories is a waste of resources for Jagex. They need to spend actual money like WOW has and develop a comprehensive anti-botting system utilising randomised bans and reactive datascience algorithms; Not this stupid system they have in place now which only scans data logs for similar actions of known scripts - Why do you think private scripts are never banned? Because Jagex’s parent company doesn’t want to waste money on something that doesn’t bring them profits.
@@sagax5908 nah man. they have a garbage automated system. granted it does ban innocent players all the time. but its waaaaay better than paying a couple guys to do a simple job! jagex logic man
theres a jagex mod that has a youtube account that did this awhile back
I played this game for 3 months regularly in f2p back at the start of 2018. I saw bots everywhere in most worlds making money.
All gains felt pointless since you can't compete with bots and nothing was done about it just like today.
Jagex are understaffed and only cares about profit in the short term so I don't think they will do anything about this.
Yeah, when I was mining iron at the start of my account, all I saw was bald people mining the thT I wanted, they also were very high level and had rune picks, and me with a mithril pick didn't stand a chance, I honestly don't even know why I even stuck around, bonds are skyrocketing because of bots, real players who want to play with bonds, have to make about 5m in f2p, approximately 50 hours if you do a money maker that's 100k an hour. All other much smaller mmo's have dealt with this issue at this point, while Jagex is just ignoring this. Why pay 11$ a month for a game that doesn't even Have the same amount of focus as a freemium game.
Old school is already ruined by the bots, and ton of the players leaving, sad but true
Jonas347 I left :)
Sata good lol who cares
Plot twist: Jagex is an A.I. program.
Ive personally experienced this first hand. Its true. They are part of the matrix and loominaty
@@g.h7657 wowzersss
"Oldschool runescape will fade"
1 month later, *oldschool runescape at its literal peak performance*
Because there is that may bots?!?! Lol im joking but u never no
its bcs of the corona virus lmao
Just about to say I started playing again bcuz of coronavirus. Still irritating to see so many bots in f2p tho.
You can thank coronavirus for that!
Corona virus has been great for jagex
Jagex doesn't want to fix these bots because: Game activity with high user numbers > fixing something that takes alot of manpower on their team.
Just imagine the economy after all bots are removed. We could use so many old money makers again
The downside is herb, prayer and construction would cost like 700m to max again
Bas Derksen in RS3 the java client recently closed down, thus all the java based bots all got nuked because of it and there aren’t as many NXT client bots out there, so I’ve noticed a bunch of price increases on stuff that I’d thought would never be expensive. its kinda refreshing
I logged into RS3 just yesterday after years of hiatus and found out my account is worth over 300 million now lmao I left it worth barely 50
Bas Derksen there has always been bots. Not sure what old money makers you want
@@AzNZinc There are tons of bots still I just killed loads after watching the video of bots mining clay
This is super insightful. I’ve never logged into a f2p world in the past five year’s so had no idea just how bad it is. This needs to become a priority, yesterday.
Tshanot Nah actually atleast you can find an empty spot on p2p, the mines are empty, woodcutting is emptyish
@@MathiasChris Out of sight, out of mind.
@@MathiasChris Eh? Just as bad? Have you seen the karamja docks? I've never seen that many players in one place in a P2p world...excepting of course the exchange.
@@MathiasChris But can they talk?
I started playing osrs 3 days ago after not playing for 12 years, I got so fed up with mining bots hogging all the coal and iron ore that I bought a membership just to get around it. Damn shame tbh
My f2p solution was to grind up to 500 total level, where you can access the 500+ worlds which still have some bots but they aren't mining iron.
Started playing 3 weeks ago for nostalgia and this is exactly how I feel. It's so depressing doing the same that the bots are doing
Me too, pretty demoralizing
it is so depressing now.
You guys should play as a hardcore ironman. I felt the exact same way, the game felt really pointless to me because all I cared about on OSRS since a kid was making money, I liked being rewarded for mining/wc/all that other shit. I recently started my first HCIM and honestly I don't think i'll ever go bank to a normal account. I basically play the game the way I did 10 years ago and I get the feeling of reward and progress way more than on a normal account.
I dont understand how the Jmods or even Pmods can hear about or see these vids and dont immediately go to these F2P worlds and start mass banning these bots.
Its almost like they are intentionally letting these bots continue!
well obviously the next day new bots would be there.. they need to make a system that is better in detecting bots..
Because it's a waste of time. There will be new bots in hours, if not minutes. Those are hours better off spent time on making new content for players already hooked into the game, and making better bot detection systems.
Its not going to do anything. My bot did one thing, potatoes. Suicide botting potatoes for 8 hours is about 4k which is around 150k. With a VPN, no IP ban since its changed after every bot. Also only takes 2 minutes to make a new bot and 5 to do tutorial island. You can ban the bot but two more will come and take its place.
There is no point, they will be replaced instantly. What they really need to do is follow the gold and find the mule accounts.
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personally, when i found out about osrs and decided to try the game again for the nostalgia, i didnt mind low lvl buyables being pretty cheap. then i found out why. bots obviously ruin games and should be a high priority for game creators.
think about this, every time you use the GE for f2p items, there is a 9/10 chance you are supporting a bot...
why i love ironman.
Ironman mode is a good way to stop caring about bank value too
Why not just have like a ‘captcha’ for accounts doing ‘suspicious’ activities like super repetitive tasks and if they fail to solve it they just get banned. Like it’s a prompt that comes up if you’ve been running back and forth in the same line for 8 hours
that’s what random events are supposed to be, but idk why they disguise it the way they do as if we don’t know it’s to try to find bots. and they can just be ignored too and the bots keep doing what they’re doing. they should be upfront like you said and just stop the game and force whoever is playing to enter in a captcha
this doesnt work runescape classic had a captcha and people who made bots were able to program a way to "read" what it says and get it right every time
Technology has advanced enough to easily solve captchas
@@samgoodwin89 Captchas can be cracked but so far no one has cracked the image part of recaptcha. They have outsourced it to Indian fellows who will solve each one for one cent. I reckon most gold farms would find it profitable enough to solve them, unless they got tons of them. In which case legit players would be pissed off.
@@zacharyweaver3508 you really havent heard about Artificial intelligence dont you? Neural networks can crack catchas with 90+% of effectiveness
This bot problem is honestly just getting exhausting at this point, really demotivating me as of late
Between the bot problem and the fact that customer service/account recovery directs you to a dead end page of simple shit where Jagex says either "we don't ban people for no reason" if you get an accidental ban or "tough luck lil guy" if you can't get into your own account, every time I come back I'm put off and remember why I stopped playing. You literally cannot get a human to help you unless you make a big scene on social media.
I really can't see an excuse for why a game where people are paying like £9 a month in membership fees can't deal with a real person when they run into problems, in fact it's worse than that, sometimes their support pages are an insult to your intelligence.
Funny that you can't get a human to answer you from Jagex just like you can't get a human to answer you while skill in F2P worlds.
its the reason i havent played it in over a year, it really is demotivating thinking how you are making 500k gold an hour when there are people just botting getting dozens of mils in the same amount of time
You should really try rs3, before ranting me about it checkout some vids from dark world order (osrs player now playing rs3)
Well quitting rs was almost impossible, the bot issue makes it a little easier
I believe the bots Running from Western to eastern bank has something to do about gold selling.
Lets say there are three roles here.
A-has the large cash stack and trades it in "small amounts" to different bots(B)
B-gets cash from A and runs it over to C, as a middle man
C- gets cash from all the bots, so the Main bots with max cash stacks dont get busted, but the middle en with like 10m orso is more likely to
Running back and forth to trade over like 10m orso each with the wait time it takes to run back and forth makes it less noticable also or suspicious for bot detecting systems, i believe.
I do not have any experience in this, and these are Just my thougts.
Please respond, cheers!
anderseide97 damn money launderers
Its honestly such a problem and so discouraging to play normally
this is exact reason why it put me off coming back to this game. I don't want to be competing against bots/scripts.
You wouldn't be, most of these people are talking out their ass... anybody whose actually strolled around on the regular knows that there are bots about but it's nowhere near the number they try to portray.
I know I play all the time and I’ve been meeting a lot of cool people and made a lot of nice conversations while grinding
I've always had an interest of coming back to this game, but when I see all of the bots around it's always really discouraging.
I started up, spend 3 hours desperately trying to cut Oaks to get beat by bots with rune axes, and then went to chop normal logs, got bored because they were worthless, and never logged back on. OSRS is dead
Just make people verify a phone number when making an account. It's that easy
Or maybe increase the time restraint massively, remove the quest reqs and then allow to circumvent it with phone verification. If anyone actually moves through all that time they get extra evaluation for being a bot.
Perfect
Lol using an online feature to fake a phone number wouldn't be difficult at all, they need multitudes of updates to fix this, just make it more trouble than it is worth, Jagex has been hesitating too much cause of the few people who may make brand new accounts and need access to the GE immediately.
This would make no difference you can get free sim cards online good thought tho
@@bingebro7189 So the main thing is, these bots can be automatically made, which is why the bot makers can get a profit from doing for example filling vials. As soon as they can't automate this anymore, things like that become worthless for them to do.
I was gonna do all f2p quests before converting my HCIM to member, i gave him a bond within 30 minutes because of how many bots were in the cow pen. F2p is swarming with bots, it makes doing the simplistic task daunting because of all the unnecessary competition.
just a tip for cow killing - falador pen
I think it’s hilarious how this economic dilemma is comparable to that of slavery.
It’s detrimental to most people because their “wages” and “job opportunity” are greatly diminished by the bots (slaves), but it’s very lucrative for the very rich and powerful of the game because it keeps their costs artificially low.
I don’t think this would fuck the economy to the extent people think. It would make training far more skills an actually profitable endeavor and by doing so make the game far more than what it is currently. That’s a good thing. Woodcutting, fishing, mining, etc would all be far more profitable and enjoyable since its not just grinding skills, you’re also making reasonable money now too.
Noobies are far more likely to stay because they will have far more economic mobility as well so it’s very likely this is actually a net good in terms of active player base.
Master Menahem
I would have to disagree. While it is true that a 'bot nuke' would inflate the value of 'botable goods'. However the economy as a whole would also shift. High value items that require resources or high level would eventually inflate. I believe that once the economy rebalanced itself, you would find that things would relatively be the same just with a few extra digits on the price of items
So you're saying we need to light Atlanta on fire?
You're actually wrong about slavery. Slavery is less profitable because slaves intentionally sabotage projects and cost you more money than what they make you.
Fucks me over as an iron man tho. Ingame currency for my endeavors is too low to make any sense
Thanks coronavirus. You made op a human in the osrs world.
If they brought back the randpm events that made you tele somewhere, instead of optional, that would greatly lessen the bots.
Yeah make sandwich lady attack you again. That shit was hilarious.
@@Ferrolune Eh? for the crane game? But I never lost those. Also the more scripts a botter has the run the higher the chance he gets detected. So that's fine too.
@@tomhill3248 back in 07 we still had the exact same bot problem and we had a stupid number of random events.
@@Sapperbounded I was playing in 2007. People on karamja docks talked back then. Stop lying.
@@tomhill3248 13 years of advancement in automation vs a game that hasn't really changed at all since 05 will cause a problem to become worse, yes.
The entire point is Jagex could barely do jack about it back then, and you can literally play RS the exact same way as you did back then. Every single thing they throw at bots is a bandaid and can be countered in a few weeks.
Honestly the problem is the game itself is a perfect automation problem, being a largely repetitive game that involves a lot of routine it's basically any engineer's dream.
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@Lenny69 シ 7 days is more than enough time for a hundred bots to do anything
@Lenny69 シ This isn't true, i have plenty of accounts made with made up emails. never locked.
I literally did a typo and my email ends with gamil instead of gmail, they don't care...
They need to add the machine learning type bot detections like in rs3
Why don’t jagex egineer a quest as an requirement to use the GE? Within the quest there should be anti-bot routines similar to random events?
Botter would do them by hand and then put the bot on the script. His bot would just be more "legit" because of that quest.
@@aljosap8445 Also if it can be done by hand, definitely they can make a script which can do it. Even if it has images which to choose from...
why doesnt jagex do literally anything about them? because 75% of the money they make are from bots
"chinese investors" botting to inflate runescapes playerbase for the next time they flip jagex?
Chinese investors farming gp without worries of bans for purchase of bitcoin.
200 IQ
Venezuelans*
I see you're taking the Torvesta approach 👌
Hey I messaged you about the blue moon one! Love to see when content creators listen to their viewers.
I think Jagex needs to come up with some sort of clause/legal thing where they can prosecute companies who abuse their game. The RWT issue has been around for as long as I've been playing (around 2003-2004). I think if they made it so that 1) anyone who buys GP gets an immediate ban (possibly even IP ban). 2) if they can somehow claim rights or damages because of companies doing this, we could make some progress.
1) private people also do this for profit, not just corporations. Focusing entirely on companies is too narrow.
2) IPs can be changed easily and many change automatically periodically.
3) identifying the person behind the account might be a better way for persecuting or handling them.
I dunno about you bro, but bots sound pretty damn nostalgic to me. They were always there when no one else was 😆
Maybe it’s time to release “bot busting” bots that do things like drop clay and whatnot. It would at least be a start to ruining them
Random events were introduced to do this and failed
I am an old player. When I first came back to osrs a few years ago it was very difficult to train in f2p so I ended up just buying a membership to have less competition for resources and more places to go. Fast forward to November of 2019, I wanted a new challenge so I made a f2p hardcore ironman. Normal ironman mode is hard enough in terms of getting resources to train, yet on top of hours of work you need to do to get the resources, you also have to compete with bots for them. Mining/smithing and crafting are the most horrendous that I've seen. Bots mine everything up to iron it seems. I've only begun to find peace when mining silver at the Varrock west mine. Worlds are full with cow killer bots so its harder to get hides. I've since abandoned the project because competition for resources was too difficult. I managed to get to a point where I could use things that bots didn't dominate but at that point the previous battle with bots had made me not want to continue. I'm still on my main and plan to make a group ironman when it comes out. I can only pray to Saradomin that they smite the bots before then, otherwise I may abandon the game altogether since it's what im looking forward to most.
I still don't understand why ironmen have to compete for resources when they can't interact with the rest of the game/ players.
@@viedralavinova8266 Mining rocks and killing cows is the trickiest part, and that involves 3 skills. Since bots mine the majority of ores used to train at low levels, just getting to 35 mining/smithing can be a hassle.
This is a fake comment from a fake profile.
That's your problem right there. You need to be praying to Zamorak go get sh*t done!
as an iron hardcore or not, questing is ya best m8, quest xp those early levels as much as possible, from skilling to killing, the knights sword for smithing from lvl 1
Won't change. Ive never seen a game with such half solutions to botting. Only way it makes sense is if jagex is on the take to be honest..
Or they don't want the public to be aware of how few real players are actually playing the game. It's possible that the majority of the "Current Players Online" are bots and for Jagex to go on a bot busting rampage by developing really effective anti-bot codes, it might cause them to reveal that the game isn't as successful as they make it out to be, thus decreasing the game and company value, and decreasing the likelihood of new players thinking things like "Wow, a lot of people are playing this game, therefore it must be good or I'll give it a go." It might just be a business ploy is what I'm saying. It looks better to have more "players" online from a marketing point of view.
@Andrew Evans Yes, I would.
@Andrew Evans Yes, then mid levels would have better money making options. Even disregarding the change in prices of goods it would still come down to a matter of principle imo.
and with real people playing to gold farm, ie: Venezuelans
Bruh I’ve been telling people this for years.. jagex is botting themselves they don’t give a fuck
I think Jagex should invest less in banning bots and more into putting protections in place to prevent botting scripts from being written in the first place. Other mmorpgs don't have this issue because it's simply too easy to create a bot in osrs.
How would you suggest they do that
Heres a guess, they literally leave bots alive to boost their "number of current players" making their game more relevant
That’s why I encourage my friend if he wants to play again, try any mode of Ironman because the game economy is busted
I tried playing my main and it was really depressing. I just created an Ironman instead and I'm having a blast.
I made an ironman about 6 months ago and am already over half my main's total level. :)
How does that help?
KlaverKatten economy plays no factor in 99.9% of your actions. On a main you only really make money from PvM or some high level skills whereas on an iron you play to progress the account in general
@@fireestyle Training mining/smithing and crafting is horrendous as a f2p ironman. Not the norm to be f2p, but I wanted it as a challenge for a side project. I abandoned it once I saw how bad it actually was competing for resources.
SirPugger, would it do anything if you made a bot reporting event? Where you have 100's of people reporting the same bots.
No
Yeah it would cause a 110b dupe!
I genuinely feel like Jagex should recruit community members such as SirPugger to help combat the bots. The more people with the power to act against it, the better.
Those bots don't even pay for membership, ban them all.
Force all players to have authenticators within 18 hours of having an account🤔
i've been playing for years on and off with members. I've been playing f2p recently and this video explains my struggle. I don't want to pay for members.
Yeah.. With f2p money making methods being so limited, and bonds constantly increasing in price, I cant blame you.
Ethan G I was f2p on my main for 4 days before I made enough for a bond.. wine of zammy(just be faster than the bots, also find a 1500+ total world) most bots are on the low ttlvl worlds
Ethan G I made about 1.5m a day doing wines of zammy’’s for 5-6 hrs a day
@@mjb96bailey Yeah but could you genuinely tell someone, a new player in particular, that it was fun?
Annoying how everything in f2p comes down to, "how long can I zammy wine for today"
Ethan G haha pretty much. I wasn’t saying this was the move or way to go. But it’s just what I had to do Lololol
I'm under the impression that jagex does know about this, and purposely allows it.
They do, they are making money off it
Well nobody wants to sit there and endlessly cut logs or mine stuff. That is extremely boring. By allowing bots, they allow people who p2p to have fun without all of the grinding.
Also by allowing bots, they allow the Latin Americans to make money because their economies are so messed up.
Jagex is kind of in a bad position, because people do not want bots, but bots are essential to not only real world players but the RS economy at large.
@@jeffshackleford3152 they don't need bots, just gold farmers. Bots only make the bot user money, paying people to farm creates jobs. Also, how will you make money in rs if you never grind anything
@@imepic434 I never really cared much about money, I just liked to PVP.
When I was much younger we used to grind, but once we got to PVPing we never really went back.
I haven't played in years though, so idk how viable any of the strats we used to run are now.
We used to kill bot farms and steal drop trades then give most of it to hispanic hand players.
The bots allow the Hispanic players to make more money per unit time.
@@jeffshackleford3152 I don't do pvp, skilling and quests is all alot of people have so only making money through pvp would be horrible. But, you're saying just pay people to kill bots for massive profit? Because that would only work for about 30 minutes.
Throughout the history of osrs and runescape in general, there has always been a basic disregard for f2p. It really is like they forgot what draws people to the game and you are completely correct in stating that it will be the death of runescape..
Somewhere in this world, relative to this, in terms of suspicion of conspiracy within jagex, in a dark office:
Damnit pugger!
This needs more upvotes^^ I can imagine all the clay botters waking up to 0 profit^^
I remember when I started playing again, I was fishing in Barb village and saw tons of bots just fishing there. In comes evil Bob, I think "oh shit this dude better not ignore him!" Then he poofed away and the guy remained there. I asked someone next to me what the hell the issue was and he said, "welcome to not so Osrs"
yeah i dont get why they removed those dangerous events... makes it way harder for bots to do shit and i liked those back in the day because they had some nice drops...
@@0sjors0 dying has no real consequence anymore so it kinda eliminates the need for dangerous randoms. Plus, every bot worth anything at all can do a random.
I remember bots in Runescape 2 man was that annoying. I've been a member since about 2008 and I never go into old school, so I don't have to deal with bots thank goodness. I really like you're content and I'll keep watching
People have been saying this for the entire 16 years I've been playing. Ain't none of you been right yet.
So right bots are pretty much just part of the game
To be fair, new players wouldnt have a freakin clue that those are bots.
The sole reason to play ironman. The economy is so broken because of bots.
What makes it broken?
@@punjab1captain Prices of everything is far too cheap and it far to hard for beginners to make any money so they quit before they even get started no one wants to cut logs for 2hrs for 15k etc, of course, the thousands of bots don't mind because they ain't really there are they.
@@punjab1captain If you're spending your time doing some moneymaker and you see 10 bots running around doing the same thing, it's pretty damn demoralizing, plus the bond prices keep going up and ways to make cash in f2p is getting harder and harder because of the bots.
Hi everyone, I am an American software developer and would like to make a few points on this issue:
For Jagex, it would be easiest to detect the bots that are earning gp through methods that would take too much time to actually be profitable for even the most committed players. A couple examples from the video are selling vials of water for 2gp profit and buying beers from NPC vendors to sell in the GE. As these methods are uncovered, an automated detection system could mark the items that are being sold for profit as items that need to be tracked, and GE transactions for large amounts of those items could be monitored. An example of an obvious red flag to this detection system would be an account consistently hitting the GE's maximum sell limit on vials of water every day for days in a row. The system would then mark the accounts making these GE transactions as accounts that are potentially associated with bot farms, and further automated investigation could be put in place to determine if the account belongs to a real player. Obviously the people who are running these bot farms have a nearly infinite number of accounts at their disposal, so this detection system would need to take a look at the trades made by the account and investigate the accounts that traded the marked items to the account that was flagged because the account that sold the items may not be the account that botted them.
The dream fix for getting rid of bots would be for Jagex to improve the OSRS client to be as good or better than other clients such as RuneLite, and restrict other clients from being used so that botting clients that interact with object variables in the game could no longer access OSRS. That way, the only botting that could be done would be through the use of difficult to code computer vision algorithms and would not be nearly as effective as the bots used today. I don't know much about creating clients and imagine that disrupting alternative clients from accessing OSRS is much easier said than done.
I would be surprised if Jagex hasn't already considered or implemented most or everything that I've stated above and I imagine the real question here is how much of a priority this issue is for them.
We need a report option specifically for bot farms that raises more flags and gets dealt with in a much more serious manner. This way when anyone notices a bot farm, action can be taken immediately.
Conspiracy theory: Jagex arent doing anything about botfarms to coverup all the gold they have flooded out in the game for easy money by spawning and selling to goldsites
They couldnt beat botting, so they joined it. Runescape is a botting simulator. How does everyone not notice this?
That would ab an awesome con. But what of inflation?
@@dylanmcshane9976 yeah they probably just realised how much of the playerbase are bots nowadays and many are buying bonds/membership and figured its not worth banning em.
@@SoulPhoenixMC How? You must be struggling to understand us. Your brain has the capacity of a happy meal that makes people sad.
They already sell gold at a higher price than the gold farms wise guy. Ever heard of bonds? Its even better for them than selling gold bc it just moves money around vs spawning it into the game.
I just started playing for the first time in 10 years, im lvl 32 now and I haven't seen many bots, like 1 or 2. I think botting was worse 10 years ago tbh.
If you went member immediately that could be why you didnt see alot, also the bots are pretty advanced now theres plenty of combat skill bots who just act like players except they never talk. So why do i think i see them if they act like players; theres times where there are 3 characters in exact same gear at the exact same level in a cave either farming or afk at the same time.
All my friends and people in discords i talked to the main issue we all had with trying old school runescape is not knowing where to start levelling. Most of us didnt care about making money as we figured that would be a thing we would care about after becoming members.
There seems to be a bot farm that runs to the nature altar crafting runes. most accounts are between 60-65 with some of them that have well over 20 mil rune crafting xp on world 330
I remember the old days on RS2, we would stir up the village and as the botters came through they would get attacked, I picked up quite a few nature runes that way, even had one come back, and I was getting cussed out in what I think was Chinese. Gold farmers hated me for things like that ;0)
Hi, I am a new player to OSRS. I can completely confirm what you've said. Several level 3s doing the same easy quests then making profit in the ways you described.
There are some other problems I noticed. There are sometimes chains of bots outside the Al Kharid mine, like 10+ on the same spot. They run back and forth to the southern bank once they have picked up 28 iron ore... Fishing bots at barb village, mining bots south east of varrock... There are so many other things I've noticed, and it is one of my major dislikes about the game.
10:05 Well duh dude you didn’t know? They’re training agility!
maybe just some test for a random klicking script for future bot scripts to test out how detectable it is?
0sjors0 Nah man they’re training agility Xd
Z Z some bots are test for better bots in the future
How to fix the bot problem
-Make it harder to get access to the G.E. making it a requirement to have 23 quest points. No exceptions.
-Improve bot detection. Normal people aren't going to be picking wheat 24/7. If someone is picking wheat for more than 24 hours in one go is most likely a bot.
-Priests of Zamorak won't let you enter their temple for their wine not until you have 15 quest points and will attack on site if you enter anyways.
I love this game so much, idk why I don’t play it. I guess I’m just going through one of those times where you just don’t hop onto the game but then end up coming back
Been there lol.
Excited to come back eventually though.
I haven't played this game in 8 years because of various things Jagex did/failed to do. I still watch youtubers on occasion though, that can give you enough of a fix
The first 10 times you log into a fresh account you have to complete a captcha before you are fully logged into the game.
Would cut down on the suicide bot farms but not the long term bots like Vorkath bots.
Actually a good idea
This was actually tried is old old school(original) runescape. Where players had to rest, then solve a captcha. Botters still found a way around it, but it did make things more difficult. As stated in the video, it just seams like Jagex doesn’t care anymore.
jezus christ this is really depressing
I keep seeing bot trains outside of barbarian village picking up people's dropped salmon and trout.