what's crazy about all of these, is that it's all one mic for the whole kit. us guys out here micing every surface of the kit and running 128 channel mixers and such, and one decent mic and the EAD module sounds like this. add a couple overheads for cymbals and maybe a hihat mic and you're set. man i need an EAD.
For TikTok covers, where quality isn't even thought about, sure an EAD with compression jacked way up will "work". But for good quality drum recordings, you need multiple mics to record each drum separately, because each drum and cymbal is a separate instrument. It's like saying you can use an EAD to recording entire band at once, when that would actually just sound terrible.
Listened to this through some decent quality ear buds. Every time it came back to the EAD10 was like a breath of fresh air. I think the main reason for this is that the EAD10 is a stereo omni directional mic, whereas the rest of the mics are mono directional. Trying to send the mono mic signal down a stereo cable created the weird pulling issues, because that adapter did not create a dual mono signal in a way that the EAD10 module liked. I think it would be interesting to get a cheap 2-channel mixer and set up two mics in a Glynn John's technique, then take the stereo output of the mixer and run it into the EAD10 module. You could even keep the EAD10 mic on the kick and use it as a trigger. You could also experiment with using the SM57 on the snare and the BASN as an overhead.
For my ead10, I've been turning the effect way down and the trigger way down. It seems to capture Mapex Saturn pretty well. Have to try it out on my Premier APK as well and see how it does. Was wondering if you could make it work with clone hero. May require adding more triggers to do it than just the base/bass trigger.
In this case I think the EAD mic sounds best. I just got a Behringer x18 which I have been itching to buy for a while, as well as some new mics. I have been messing with the X18 and several mics feeding the EAD10. So far I have two kick mics (1 internal, 1 external) snare, two overheads. Haven't started mixing any toms yet. The sound is excellent so far in my opinion. But I'm not a pro engineer by any stretch. This needs lots of fine tuning and is quite expensive at this point. Not for the faint of heart or credit card 😂. I mean the EAD in its bare for. Is a very affordable full drum recording system that takes away a lot of learning. 🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁
The question is: if you're already fully mic'ing and mixing the kit through your X18 what is even the point of routing that mix into the EAD10 instead of directly into your headphones?
I thought the EAD 10 Raw was the best. And the BASN Raw was the next best one. Maybe you need to postion the mics in different spots? Still great comparison video!!
The problem that you're having is that the mic input into the EAD10 is stereo unbalanced, which the EAD mic outputs. The mics you're using outputs a mono balanced signal. Because of this it will send duplicates of the same signal to both ears, except the phase is flipped on one of them. There's two ways this can be solved. Either flipping the phase on either the left or right and summing them together to get a mono output, or by using a 1/4 in male trs to dual 1/4 in male ts adapter with two 1/4 in female to XLR female adapters and connect this to two of the same mics to get a stereo output. I suspect the difference with the LDC is probably because it needs phantom power and thus the audio pin out is slightly different. I imagine if processed or plugged in correctly, this would be genuinely interesting comparison, but in its current state, this is a pretty useless experiment.
It’s not a stereo cable. It is a balanced cable. There is no such thing as a stereo cable. You can run two unbalanced signals through a balanced cable, but that isn’t what’s going on here. Those external mics are all mono.
so here;'s the issue. You've just used a stereo connection to connect an xlr, this flips one side out of phase. that's why it sounds so god damn bad. import the file to your daw, flip the phase on one side and you'll at least get rid of the nauseating feeling
what's crazy about all of these, is that it's all one mic for the whole kit. us guys out here micing every surface of the kit and running 128 channel mixers and such, and one decent mic and the EAD module sounds like this. add a couple overheads for cymbals and maybe a hihat mic and you're set. man i need an EAD.
For TikTok covers, where quality isn't even thought about, sure an EAD with compression jacked way up will "work". But for good quality drum recordings, you need multiple mics to record each drum separately, because each drum and cymbal is a separate instrument. It's like saying you can use an EAD to recording entire band at once, when that would actually just sound terrible.
Been thinking of this for a while!
Thanks for all the EAD Videos!!
use an external mixer and plug into the aux input on the EAD, use all the mics you want along with the ead stereo mics. 😮
Listened to this through some decent quality ear buds. Every time it came back to the EAD10 was like a breath of fresh air. I think the main reason for this is that the EAD10 is a stereo omni directional mic, whereas the rest of the mics are mono directional. Trying to send the mono mic signal down a stereo cable created the weird pulling issues, because that adapter did not create a dual mono signal in a way that the EAD10 module liked. I think it would be interesting to get a cheap 2-channel mixer and set up two mics in a Glynn John's technique, then take the stereo output of the mixer and run it into the EAD10 module. You could even keep the EAD10 mic on the kick and use it as a trigger. You could also experiment with using the SM57 on the snare and the BASN as an overhead.
EAD10 seems to be the best sounding of them all. Mine comes in tomorrow and I am super excited. Good video bud
neat! Got an EAD10 recently and have been enjoying it. Thank you for your videos!
For my ead10, I've been turning the effect way down and the trigger way down. It seems to capture Mapex Saturn pretty well. Have to try it out on my Premier APK as well and see how it does. Was wondering if you could make it work with clone hero. May require adding more triggers to do it than just the base/bass trigger.
I realized about halfway that IG drums means Instagram drums haha. Probably sounds better on phone speakers.
In this case I think the EAD mic sounds best.
I just got a Behringer x18 which I have been itching to buy for a while, as well as some new mics. I have been messing with the X18 and several mics feeding the EAD10. So far I have two kick mics (1 internal, 1 external) snare, two overheads. Haven't started mixing any toms yet. The sound is excellent so far in my opinion. But I'm not a pro engineer by any stretch. This needs lots of fine tuning and is quite expensive at this point. Not for the faint of heart or credit card 😂. I mean the EAD in its bare for. Is a very affordable full drum recording system that takes away a lot of learning.
🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁
My man!! I totally agree. Have fun brother 🤘
The question is: if you're already fully mic'ing and mixing the kit through your X18 what is even the point of routing that mix into the EAD10 instead of directly into your headphones?
The Ead and the basn both sound good, think the basn tops it but not by 2 much!
I’m with you on that 🤘
I thought the EAD 10 Raw was the best. And the BASN Raw was the next best one. Maybe you need to postion the mics in different spots? Still great comparison video!!
EAD 10 is expensive, so this is good for a person like a drummer to play EAD 10 versus a Shure 57. Its Multiple Brothers on a good dongle, brother!
Can you use 2 or 3 mics in it?? I believe the EAD has more aux inputs
The problem that you're having is that the mic input into the EAD10 is stereo unbalanced, which the EAD mic outputs. The mics you're using outputs a mono balanced signal. Because of this it will send duplicates of the same signal to both ears, except the phase is flipped on one of them.
There's two ways this can be solved. Either flipping the phase on either the left or right and summing them together to get a mono output, or by using a 1/4 in male trs to dual 1/4 in male ts adapter with two 1/4 in female to XLR female adapters and connect this to two of the same mics to get a stereo output.
I suspect the difference with the LDC is probably because it needs phantom power and thus the audio pin out is slightly different.
I imagine if processed or plugged in correctly, this would be genuinely interesting comparison, but in its current state, this is a pretty useless experiment.
EAD all day!
It’s not a stereo cable. It is a balanced cable. There is no such thing as a stereo cable. You can run two unbalanced signals through a balanced cable, but that isn’t what’s going on here. Those external mics are all mono.
The SM definitely wasn’t it, but it’s also directional…. I like the comparison though…
ead 10 and basn are really good, BASN win
Serious impedance mismatch going on here, maybe also some filter
And some weird phasing issues
so here;'s the issue.
You've just used a stereo connection to connect an xlr, this flips one side out of phase.
that's why it sounds so god damn bad.
import the file to your daw, flip the phase on one side and you'll at least get rid of the nauseating feeling
the real way to do this would be to grab a stereo preamp, and a trs to double ts splitter cable
EAD sounds best. Whodathunk that Yamaha knew what hey were doing?