Ey Fran! Enhorabuena por el canal. Gran variedad de mazos spicy y también mazos top de Premodern. Verías viable este deck sin moxes, pero con exploraciones y Mulch para aprovechar todas las tierras y manlands que se puedan robar? No tendría salidas de T1 esfera u Oath, pero por contra ganaría algo de "ventaja de cartas" con los Mulch y exploraciones?? Podría ser otra forma de plantearlo o simplemente sería peor? Gracias y a seguir así 👏🏼👏🏼
Gracias Hugo! Mirá, el mazo definitivamente funciona sin Moxes, pero es bastante peor. No jugaría Exploration, igual. Simplemente jugaría 2 o 3 tierras más que me den mana Rojo y Verde (probablemente Mossfire Valley) y sumaría algo como un Earthquake, para tener una carta más que me ayude a recuperarme si me caigo un poco atrás por sacar los Mox.
Muchísimas gracias por responder, valoro realmente lo que me dices. Ya veré qué hacer porque sin moxes parece que no será lo mismo😅 Gracias!!@@fpawluszmtg
@@fpawluszmtg Genial, le daré una vuelta porque el arquetipo me gusta mucho. Gracias por atender así de bien los comentarios. Yo tuve un pequeño canal (Greenlotusmtg) y sé del tiempo que puede rquerir, por lo que lo valoro más si cabe. Gracias amigo!
Sick gameplay, personally wish Mox wasn't in the format just because I only play in paper and can't afford to drop $2400 on them and my LGS doesn't allow proxies lol
If you want to play this deck without Mox you can definitely do, and it'll just be a tier 2 deck as opposed to being tier S, which is honestly still pretty well above average!
@@fpawluszmtg i run all kind of whacky variations on reanimator mostly, right now I've got a UB version with standstill. Does it work? Who knows! But it sure would be funny to T1 reanimate an Akroma and drop a standstill and then say go. I'll find out this Friday lol
My experience is that Replenish has the upper hand by a significant amount, but it largely depends on the Replenish player's list (if they have 23 lands/less Frantic Search/no respect in the sideboard) and the Ponza player's draw (if they draw Library, how many LD spells they find).
@@cliffv3 Could be relevant against every deck, vs only relevant in the mirror. It's technically correct to do so, though obviously the margins you gain are minimal. I had it happen exactly once in something like 50+ matches.
The format is starting to get boring. Oath ponza is extremely powerful and denies creature based strategy. Same with Parallax Replenish. Unfortunately, we wont see an Oath ban because it is a staple
... Did you see that brand new BG Survival Rock deck that took up 3 of the top 8 slots (100% conversion rate)? I only beat the player in the finals because he made a misplay in the very crucial turn. That deck looks like a menace, and proof that there's still innovation to be made.
@@fpawluszmtg Phil was already getting some good results with it before this monthly and SurviRock was already a thing even before that. I dont think it is a menace considering it has no game against Parallax Replenish
@@kzelmer I don’t think it’s a menace either, but it doesn’t need to be. It’s just another deck is establishing itself as a force to be reckoned with. It honestly blows my mind that Premodern is a format where there are 15 to 20-ish that could win a tournament and nobody would be surprised. I personallt don’t understand how folks complain about it being “boring” or “stale”. The game play is engaging, it’s the most diverse meta in the history of constructed Magic… what else could anybody want!?
![[Premodern] Stiflenought vs BW Control - New England Summer Regional - Round 2](/img/n.gif)
The lack of an ice age version of pyroclasm is a crime
@@mightyfp Criminal! Such a sick piece of art that doesn’t exist on MTGO. Very sad…
Un crack! te vi jugar el viernes pasado en Bazaar, por suerte no me tocó contra vos jajaja abrazo grande y muy buen canal!
Esa, bien ahi! Nada mas lindo que ir a Bazaar a pasarla increible! Si te gusta Premo estas en el canal correcto, un abrazo grande!
Fleshreaver deals the damage to its controler, so it also triggers the mantle, "negating" its downside.
it's like a perverted form of double strike which cloak benefits from.
It deals damage twice, so you gain life twice but you lose life once.
@@strangemolars yeah, we figured it out afterwards. And I love this interaction so much that I already built a deck around it 😅
Ey Fran! Enhorabuena por el canal. Gran variedad de mazos spicy y también mazos top de Premodern.
Verías viable este deck sin moxes, pero con exploraciones y Mulch para aprovechar todas las tierras y manlands que se puedan robar?
No tendría salidas de T1 esfera u Oath, pero por contra ganaría algo de "ventaja de cartas" con los Mulch y exploraciones?? Podría ser otra forma de plantearlo o simplemente sería peor?
Gracias y a seguir así 👏🏼👏🏼
Gracias Hugo! Mirá, el mazo definitivamente funciona sin Moxes, pero es bastante peor. No jugaría Exploration, igual. Simplemente jugaría 2 o 3 tierras más que me den mana Rojo y Verde (probablemente Mossfire Valley) y sumaría algo como un Earthquake, para tener una carta más que me ayude a recuperarme si me caigo un poco atrás por sacar los Mox.
Muchísimas gracias por responder, valoro realmente lo que me dices. Ya veré qué hacer porque sin moxes parece que no será lo mismo😅
Gracias!!@@fpawluszmtg
@@Hugocm87 Y si, no es lo mismo, pero el mazo es suficientemente poderoso que pasaría de ser tier 0 a ser tier 2, vas a ganar bastante igual.
@@fpawluszmtg Genial, le daré una vuelta porque el arquetipo me gusta mucho.
Gracias por atender así de bien los comentarios. Yo tuve un pequeño canal (Greenlotusmtg) y sé del tiempo que puede rquerir, por lo que lo valoro más si cabe.
Gracias amigo!
@@Hugocm87 Por supuesto! Un abrazo grande!
Sick gameplay, personally wish Mox wasn't in the format just because I only play in paper and can't afford to drop $2400 on them and my LGS doesn't allow proxies lol
If you want to play this deck without Mox you can definitely do, and it'll just be a tier 2 deck as opposed to being tier S, which is honestly still pretty well above average!
@@fpawluszmtg i run all kind of whacky variations on reanimator mostly, right now I've got a UB version with standstill. Does it work? Who knows! But it sure would be funny to T1 reanimate an Akroma and drop a standstill and then say go. I'll find out this Friday lol
@@realbadtech9318 Sounds like you are about to have fun, that's for sure!
Land distruction made my friends ban me from playing with them...too OP 😆
People really dislike playing against LD... It's a way of life, though, probably easier to just find new friends 😂
“Being otp was very smart of me if I’m being honest.” 😂
@@galenlemei975 I have my moments of brilliance every now and then, hahaha
Lets gooooo!!!
🔥🔥🔥
How is ponzas matchup with replenish?
My experience is that Replenish has the upper hand by a significant amount, but it largely depends on the Replenish player's list (if they have 23 lands/less Frantic Search/no respect in the sideboard) and the Ponza player's draw (if they draw Library, how many LD spells they find).
@@fpawluszmtg that was my assumption without experience in the match. Thanks for your thoughts
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@@maximilianoarguello1779 Ya te veo salivando con la RecSur dominando este torneillo!
Premodern: like+comment
@@issmoul931 ❤️❤️❤️
Why snow covered basics?
You can Thermokarst your land to gain a life. Also, why not?
@@colinjohnson3272 Your opponent can to, it's not an uncommon card in the format. How often are you targeting your own land with it?
@@cliffv3 Could be relevant against every deck, vs only relevant in the mirror. It's technically correct to do so, though obviously the margins you gain are minimal. I had it happen exactly once in something like 50+ matches.
@@cliffv3i guess the idea is that the life is unlikely to matter in the mirror. Doesn't seem obviously better or worse either way.
Those opps had no idea 😕 how to play those decks
Idk what you are talking about, I thought my opponents played pretty well overall.
your brain is so wrinkly omg
@@alexanderpfau6723 🧠
The format is starting to get boring. Oath ponza is extremely powerful and denies creature based strategy. Same with Parallax Replenish. Unfortunately, we wont see an Oath ban because it is a staple
... Did you see that brand new BG Survival Rock deck that took up 3 of the top 8 slots (100% conversion rate)? I only beat the player in the finals because he made a misplay in the very crucial turn. That deck looks like a menace, and proof that there's still innovation to be made.
Fortunately, we wont see an Oath ban because it is a staple.
@@fpawluszmtg Phil was already getting some good results with it before this monthly and SurviRock was already a thing even before that. I dont think it is a menace considering it has no game against Parallax Replenish
"unfortunately we won't see an oath ban because it's a staple" couldn't you have said the same thing about land tax?
@@kzelmer I don’t think it’s a menace either, but it doesn’t need to be. It’s just another deck is establishing itself as a force to be reckoned with. It honestly blows my mind that Premodern is a format where there are 15 to 20-ish that could win a tournament and nobody would be surprised. I personallt don’t understand how folks complain about it being “boring” or “stale”. The game play is engaging, it’s the most diverse meta in the history of constructed Magic… what else could anybody want!?