@@johndean4765 ,,and there it is folks.. it's not just West Ham, it's all football grounds that's became souless,, along with British society.. You can no longer make a comment of wit, let alone tell a joke.. us Brits, for generations, have been the envy of every other Nation, for our humour, quick witted and general piss taking... This is why you at West Ham , or me at Chelsea, will ever see again that even when the chips are down and how we always kept smiling, these days are gone forever by a generation of moaning, lazy tossers, who,in a joke, will look for something to be upset about, rather than the humour... Our breed and generation are soon gone. No wonder the World is in a state. Fk em all
The devaluation of the FA cup breaks my heart. Growing up it wouldn’t matter if my team was playing in the cup final or not I would start watching at 9am, build up all day until the 3pm kick off. Now I don’t know who’s playing in the final and what time kick off is. Sad, just sad.
yes totally agree ! whole day built up from start of the day - now just ruined by money and incredibly poor pundits ☹️ kenneth Wolstenhome RIP was the best Game is just ruined now with money , foreign players , managers not lasting more than a year !
Cup final day used to be so big, there was live build up from the morning until kick off on both the BBC and ITV. Now some modern day idiots think it’s a Mickey Mouse distraction.
@@thechunkyone7118 🤣🤣 no such thing as Saturday kitchen back then!! Thankfully. It was normally kid’s shows like Saturday superstore, Going Live etc. In the 80’s that is. When the FA cup was still the biggest day of the season. They would have cup final themed shows on from first thing in the morning on cup final day. I can’t tell if your comment was tongue in cheek or not though!!
Great chat boys from two proper West Ham fan legends, like yourselves I was in the Railway in Stratford before the 1980 FA cup final and if memory serves me right the reason we all finished up in Oxford street was how can I put this a lot of the younger lads fancied doing a bit of East End style shopping in the West End. Happy days, keep up the good work and don't forget the West Ham United will never be defeated, COYI.
Bill is a legend, I'm a Chelsea fan used to go all the time in the 80s, had great times at upton Park and was always a good day when west ham came over the bridge. Great days, I'm 52 now so that life was a long time ago.. I'm glad that it doesn't happen on the scale it once did, its over, something that should be left in the past..
Not a WH fan, but I am pleased that I was around in the 80's, pleased that I was able to see true fans from all clubs, which I was able to witness whilst following the club I support. Day's long gone but not forgotten.
I never had a choice to support anyone else because I’m a Stratford boy and so is my parents, grandparents & great grandparents and you can only support West Ham. I kept the tradition going with my daughter who’s 24 now. Remember her saying Dad why do I have to support Westham ?? I said we’re do you live she Westham which is in Stratford for those that don’t know. It’s a E15 post code. I said what colour is your school uniform she claret n blue and I said who do I support and your grandad and your great grandad n ya great great grandparents. You see it’s in your blood 🩸 for as much as they break your heart you are always West Ham until you die. There’s a new traditional rear guard who carry the same old Skool values. So don’t despair gents we’re here n more being born. GSB know that loyalty still exists and they milk it. Great interview 💪🏼⚒
A really passionate discussion lads , respect to you both and to West Ham. Met Bill on a couple of occasions in the 80s . On the receiving end at Nottingham train station as in first book, we knew who you was but couldn't do anything with the big fella in the leather jacket . Then a few years later met up with Doug and Bernie in the East End and was introduced to Bill and had a few beers together. A true gentleman, respect from an Old Forest fan 👍
Massive respect to Bill, he was without a doubt a terrace icon of legendary status at the time and some, great character in a time of so many incredible memories that unless you were there to experience it its difficult to explain and do it justice A great interview, really enjoyed it even though not West Ham, respect from Chelsea
I was lucky enough to go too Upton Park and get my picture with the fa cup in 1980'' ! My old man took me - I was 7 and will never forget it-' come on you hammers! !!
I chose to be West Ham after 66 World Cup as a kid first went to West Ham from Enfield in 68 12years old told Mum Dad I was going to Spurs as knew they would not let me go West Ham as so far ...I knew nobody at first but after City away we stuck together went in Kippax and I made friends ... Loved those days home and away in seventies singing in the Boleyn with Bubbles and mates from Hemel and Gray's ..West Ham are special and I hope always will have that fantastic support , like Bill such a leader and massive respect to him , So win lose or draw .. we are West Ham ain't we ⚒️⚒️ Truly Loyal
Bill Gardner I wish we had 60 thousand Bill Gardner’s he loves us and the club what a man , god bless you bill , And bubbles thank god for you’re vision at West Ham that’s why i am West Ham COYI
Paul Bill Like both of you I was a 5 year old when I went to my first game I'm know 68, listening to both of you talk is inspirational like Bill said I'm a Hammer always will be so keep up the the great work with Hammers United ⚒️⚒️⚒️⚒️⚒️⚒️⚒️⚒️
Been going 40 years. I won't go to the new place, it's a horrible, dispiriting experience. Right behind you, Lads. Great to hear from Bill. GSB out. COYI ⚒️
I love in Yeovil Somerset, been a Hammer since we won the cup in '64, that was when I fell in love. Girls, tarts, and women have come and gone but this Hammers bird is still there with me in my heart and in my soul. I felt for the first time for years a connection with you two guys, I've heard of you both but don't know you, but maybe I do after this video. I joined today, and already feel part of the future. Very best to you guys and good health to you both.
Good to see Bill looking so well. I love West Ham just like everyone else. I hope to get back the feeling i had at Upton Park so my grandkids can feel the way I did when I was a kid ⚒
Nothing but respect for their fans ,I remember coming back from Wolverhampton on the train with the London wolves about 100 of us and west ham fans got on at new street and when I saw them I shit myself ,but they knew we were just football fans not out for trouble and to my amazement they acknowledged us and walked on through the carriage ,real men ,real fans ,real toughies!! Wolves and west ham are for life not for glory !!! Love and respect for our great clubs !!
Well done Bill and Bubbles great to hear proper fans I know personally how much Bill loves this club and would love to hear more interviews like this on hammers chat
Brilliant to watch & listen to these guys talking about their club, as a Wolves fan in his early 60s so much of what they had to say resonates with me. I first went to West Ham in the 72/73 season and stood on the south bank, it was a very scary place to be for a teenager, I remember our coach driver wouldn't drop us off at the ground but left us in Leicester Square & we had to catch the tube to Upton Park, the game ended 2-2 as I remember. I've been there a few times since, the last time when the Hammers beat us in the FA cup 1-0, had a ticket to go last season but the covid put paid to that trip. Good luck to you all, I really enjoyed this video.
Thank you Paul, Bill and Gonzo for putting this video together, absolutely great format, Paul and Bill talk a lot of sense, unfortunately I don't see GSB leaving until at least 2023, we live in hope. COYI ⚒⚒⚒⚒
Top blokes, West Ham legends. You only get truth in this video. Join Hammers United, ladies and gentlemen. The more of us there are, the more we will get achieved. GSB or any new owners cannot ignore a united West Ham fan base. 👍⚒
A great watch, UP gave me a tingle when I went in the ground, even as an older geezer, first went 67. It’s become a social thing now, meeting up in the boozer etc. Going to the ground is a chore. And we only live in Hornchurch! Agree with everything you boys said.
i have supported Westham since i was five best moment 80 cup final im now 52 we used to go up with all the lads from Windsor dad was Spurs mum was Westham end of story only one club for me
As an NUFC supporter i could not agree more with the comments you lads are making and how passionate you are about your club, YOUR club.We have the same here with ashley,fans like us both WHUFC and NUFC need to organise to get these vermin out of OUR clubs.
My brother had a poster of West Ham in about 1980 and it stuck with us even though he’s a Blue. Even though they relegated us in ‘87 and beat us in the cup at Maine Road in ‘97 but I still like and check their scores. Great club they are. . .
Interesting listen. Two proper Hammers who I can relate to. I spent my youth going home and away with Southend United and for all the very regular "lows" - the rare, rare "high" could not be matched by any club anywhere from Madrid to Millmoor. I listen and see it is similar up the road too. One club - always!
Great video, my Nan used to give Dennis dinners he was a good friend of my Dad at school, be good to see the good old days back for him and the die hards
I remember May 10th 1980, I was 12. We'd moved away in '75, just after the Fulham final, so my old man (born in Cann Hall in 1910) and I watched it on the box. When Geno nodded it in on 13 minutes my Dad simply shook my hand and winked. Then, many years later, I took my boy, aged 5, to Wigan when we lost a 2-0 lead and got relegated. Yet last week we were both doing our nut when Lanzini equalised. COYI.
I had some dangerous encounters at the old Boleyn 83-87 as a Everton lad, You had to be savvy to get through the visit but we loved it… Well on top the minute you came out the station it was frightening but boss💪 West Ham team 85-86 was quality and playing Everton last game of the season could have been a decider? Fireworks before and after that match, unfortunately no European footy because of those of horrible clowns Liverpool
The one game that i remember was 1975 quarter final of the fa cup v Arsenal at highbury it rained all day we took the north bank and Alan taylor got the two goals on a very muddy ground.
I'm not a West Ham fan but I enjoy listening to ex ICF members. I'm a Man City Fan and will always remember the documentary in the 80s, then facing them months later, scary times but memorable. All the best to that crowd. 🙏🏾👍🏾😄 Your welcome.
This is a great discussion lads. Confirms everything I suspected was happening at West ham. Very sad to hear and is very much about what has happened in modern football. Massive to respect to old school West ham. First London fans to make their presence felt at Ayresome park back in the 70's.
Another great vid with Bill..proper old skool..proper fan..saw you a few times back in the day when west ham played united..the cup in 85 was special 😉...gave as good as you got..total respect for you Bill!..from a united fan!👍👹
That is spot on football fans from 40 to 50 years ago were fans not anymore it's all about money. Hope your keeping OK Bill meet you in Spain 82 World Cup when we went there by coach also the time we ended up in hospital after fight in bar , one of many Chelsea fans out there. All the best football fans will never be the same.
Great stuff i am nearly 62 and have been west ham all my fuckin life and my father who is no longer here took me to the whu all them yrs ago i want it back again not like the shit it is now keep up the great work
ive been with westham for over 60 yrs now i cant come to westham now but cant stop wanting them to be ok but the game i remember was when we played manchester city and brooking took over we won but city were relagated and we all went over to there side singing ur be back ur be back great days
I'm sure it was in the 70s all our lot went over to there supporters throwing our scaves as u no we had the same colours and they thru theres back onto the ground
My first memory of fa Cup final West ham v Fulham...always admired the hammers...remember carlton leach saying he had a soft spot for my club man city because it was a club like the hammers I felt the same...when I was a young fan in the early 80s Bill Gardner name alone was frightening.
Thing is when West Ham came to Newcastle in the 80s the crowds jumped from 14-15 thousand to over 25000 and all the nutters came out, then you had the nutters in the pub, so all ways a edge and a buzz, I've went through the progression of changing stands part of grounds through growing up, when we played West ham it was a 8am start and a 11pm finish, West ham away 6pm start Friday 12 midnight Saturday finish, no doubt like irons fans I've seen the ground jumping with 25000 in, then going home buzzing
So much of a pleasure to listen to you Gentleman . West Ham fan from Birmingham. So angry what has happened to my club. Everything you have said in the video is so , so right . Those clowns have to get out of the club . They have taken away the history , the traditions & everything that the club has stood for . But West Ham fans , are real fans & will be there when them clowns have gone . My hero was always Alan Devonshire . They to me have insulted legends like Devo . By what they have done to our club . Cannot wait till they have gone out of the club for good .
im a very proud geordie , ive been a west ham fan since 1976 , i travel from newcastle and i get accepted , and my son is a hammer now , love west ham always will.
Bill was our manager at Upton Park on pitch we got to the final and lost 1-0 but weren’t about winning it was about the whole day there and having such a gent like bill looking after us , thanks bill 👍
When we made it to the cwcf in 1975 on my first wedding aniversary i remember saying to my mates we have to go we might not ever make it to another final not really thinking we would,nt. But sadly that has been the case............ my first game was 67/68 season too Bubbles.
I am Old school West Ham me and my mates used to walk from Dagenham to to Upton Park every home game when we were teenagers back in the 80’s and go into the chicken run watch the match have a laugh etc, my point is I was at the last home match before COVID kicked in, while the match was playing I got passionate and through despair I was effing and blinding at the play as you do, at half time I went for a beer then came back to my seat only to be approached by 3 stewards and be told that they had a complaint made against me swearing and if I carried on I would be moved from the stadium, as I looked around I saw a family with hamper box a few seats to my side obviously it was them that made the complaint, I explained to the stewards when I went to my first West Ham match in 1975 there was more effing and blinding it’s the passion and it’s so sad that these people who are not fans and don’t understand our passion are killing our team and those joke stewards need sacking too. It ain’t West Ham anymore 😢⚒⚒⚒
How on earth and why were they let in with a hamper or even a packed lunch?? They should have been turned away or at least have it confiscated. If they asked why, the answer back should have been "middle class cunts aren't allowed in there"
That’s very sad. Unfortunately that’s the way our game has gone. Bloody tourists and face painted middle class idiots have taken over our game to such an extent that we can’t even swear in the ground anymore. The club owners love these people though because they’re money. They see these idiots as pound signs. I’m not a West Ham fan but I totally agree with you. It’s the same at virtually every premier league ground. We need to force these people out.
Dean this is it now mate isint it what UTTER rubbish mate that at a football game you cant swear at a football match showing our passion. Its BOLLOCKS. I'd of uppercutted the stewards Dean low. I've had somebody tell me that his mate went and he is old school West Ham was he was told to sit down and stop his swearing by a West Ham Supporter. Are you fing joking that never happened when I went and I'm old school. I use to go fing mad psycho swearing fing and jeffing standing in the North Bank trying to get on the pitch to the opposition players and having it with the opposition fans lol. It's not the same anymore.
More of these please, chaps. These are as much West Ham greats as the likes of Bonds, Brooking, Moore etc. They put in the miles, through the good, the bad and the downright shit. Enjoy these men while we have them and listen when they speak. Proper West Ham, enjoyable to listen to and even when we're not crusading to get the GSB cancer out of our club, I'd love a Bubbles and Bill podcast. I know Bubbles isn't the most technologically efficient, but someone set up a venue (Gonzo) and get these boys talking more. COYI!
Thanks mate. It ain't easy because we had to book a conference room and all 4 of us live in different areas so it was a long day but a fantastic one. I'll definitely look to do something again though because I believe these videos are best done in person rather than a webcam.
I’m a Hull city lad & have a huge respect for West Ham, they’ve been shovelled into a soul less concrete bowl like we have & I blame the foundation of the P.L, when the game sold out to money.
Well chaps, I really enjoyed your company this morning. As a Gooner, I also have the same anger and frustrations that you have, as I'm sure thousands of fans from our generation and working class backgrounds all over this nation also have. We have seen our clubs taken over by the quick money making corporate machines, full of greed and lies. I long for the Highbury days, but this is because it's where my love affair for my club began. Of course I can now sit in a more comfortable seat and have a great view of the game, but the atmosphere is just not there, You will of course find pockets of both old school and hard core fans, but the majority are very much the modern day fan, and for many of them it is just like going to the theatre. Unfortunately, like many that have moved on from our clubs (I recall we lost a lot of fans when we introduced the supporters bond back in the 80's, which was the start of corporate development), some have stuck with it but are somewhat unhappy and many others have since moved on to non Premiership clubs. Ultimately, we are now the dinosaurs and whilst we remember the greats of the past i.e. Bobby Moore, Geoff Hurst, Clyde Best, Liam Brady, Charlie George and Gus Caesar, to name but a few, todays fans don't know these players, which of course is sacrilege to the likes of us. Anyway enough of this doom and gloom, we are fortunate to have our memories and the opportunity to share these with our mates and grandchildren. looking forward to seeing The Hammers once this Covid is over, why you may ask, cheap seats of course. : ) : ) ; )
It's always good to listen to real fans talking like this, as an Evertonian I fear we will lose something special when we leave Goodison Park the same way West Ham did when they moved to Stratford.
It's what happens when gsb piss off though that is the main problem. When you look at what Birmingham have gone through since they left because of the people that have bought into them. All crap business people looking to make a quick buck with no idea. I just hope that when they do see sense and leave that they don't sell us to anyone.
@@motr1912 I can tell you this, this trilogy gsb accepted a dodgy Chineseman's £81m with little knowledge of football and screwed us right up in the end, snapped this fella's hand off they did, without looking into his background. Of this trilogy i could tell you many a thing about b, but i can't on an open forum for liable reasons. Ironically, under the China mans stewardship we won only our second honour in 136 years, he got arrested not long after, we was relegated and been shit ever since.
Bill is absolutely spot on about fans that turn up late and leave early. I've seen groups turn up late, piss off to get a drink 10 mins before half time, get back late and leave before the end. It's not exclusive to the current stadium as it happened at the Boleyn too but I've vever understood it. Being so poor for much of the time I've been going, I've never left early even when getting absolutely pummelled. And as for other team fans in our ground, what about half and half scarves? The most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. Every fucking game and no matter where you go. Have a word. Lastly, I do wonder if people are getting their hopes up in thinking that gsb will go by the end of this season and if they do, we need owners who have a never ending supply of money. We can't have another owner like Cearns, Brown and GSB.
I'm a Coventry city fan, 38 years , through the ups and the downs, ( mainly the downs being a cov city fan lol) but I think west ham are in a very similar position to us. You dont own the ground do you? We had highfield rd, yh an old studium. 30,000 capacity. But it had a soul, an atmosphere. The fans were on top of ya. No matter who came we were confident of a win. And we were in the top flight for 34 years before we were relegated. The stadium got sold off to housing developers and we never built another stadium. We rented the ricoh arena off the Coventry city council. Things wet sour and we had to leave there and play at Northamptons ground, then we came to an agreement with the council and came back briefly. Then we fell out with them again and now we're playing at Birmingham city's ground St Andrew's. The money we got for the old ground has mysteriously disappeared. All in all we're in the shit. Make sure this dosent happen to west ham. A couple of bad seasons is all you need. Relegation got forbid and how many fans will come to the matches at the Olympic stadium? Things start going sour. Stop the rot before it happens fellas
Remember Chelsea 1980, at Stamford Bridge. West Ham took the Nell Gwynn pub. Bill and about 6 others walked around to the Shed End turnstiles and called it on
I enjoyed that. As a Spurs fan of the same age as you blokes, I totally agree. Football has sold it's soul, it was a working class lads day out, but now it's entertainment. I miss the old days
Hammers United. . . UNITED WE STAND! - Tross 😎⚒
I'm surprised at you Bill to even joke about kicking a weak defenceless cat that could never harm a human being.
@@johndean4765 ,,and there it is folks.. it's not just West Ham, it's all football grounds that's became souless,, along with British society..
You can no longer make a comment of wit, let alone tell a joke.. us Brits, for generations, have been the envy of every other Nation, for our humour, quick witted and general piss taking...
This is why you at West Ham , or me at Chelsea, will ever see again that even when the chips are down and how we always kept smiling, these days are gone forever by a generation of moaning, lazy tossers, who,in a joke, will look for something to be upset about, rather than the humour... Our breed and generation are soon gone. No wonder the World is in a state. Fk em all
I can listen to guys like this every day, regardless of the club.
From a Stockport fan, West Ham are what football is all about, the people’s football club, good luck you Hammers.
The devaluation of the FA cup breaks my heart. Growing up it wouldn’t matter if my team was playing in the cup final or not I would start watching at 9am, build up all day until the 3pm kick off. Now I don’t know who’s playing in the final and what time kick off is. Sad, just sad.
yes totally agree ! whole day built up from start of the day - now just ruined by money and incredibly poor pundits ☹️ kenneth Wolstenhome RIP was the best
Game is just ruined now with money , foreign players , managers not lasting more than a year !
Cup final day used to be so big, there was live build up from the morning until kick off on both the BBC and ITV. Now some modern day idiots think it’s a Mickey Mouse distraction.
How would they fit Saturday morning kitchen in, if the build up started at 9am??? Not the most clever of people are you😂
@@thechunkyone7118 🤣🤣 no such thing as Saturday kitchen back then!! Thankfully. It was normally kid’s shows like Saturday superstore, Going Live etc. In the 80’s that is. When the FA cup was still the biggest day of the season. They would have cup final themed shows on from first thing in the morning on cup final day. I can’t tell if your comment was tongue in cheek or not though!!
@@mrkipling2201 ha jist pulling ya leg. TV channels are terrible these days. I mainly stick to TH-cam for everything
Being a 61 year old spurs fan, always loved going upton park. Proper old school and i have a lot of west ham mates.
Great chat boys from two proper West Ham fan legends, like yourselves I was in the Railway in Stratford before the 1980 FA cup final and if memory serves me right the reason we all finished up in Oxford street was how can I put this a lot of the younger lads fancied doing a bit of East End style shopping in the West End. Happy days, keep up the good work and don't forget the West Ham United will never be defeated, COYI.
Bill is a legend, I'm a Chelsea fan used to go all the time in the 80s, had great times at upton Park and was always a good day when west ham came over the bridge. Great days, I'm 52 now so that life was a long time ago.. I'm glad that it doesn't happen on the scale it once did, its over, something that should be left in the past..
Not a WH fan, but I am pleased that I was around in the 80's, pleased that I was able to see true fans from all clubs, which I was able to witness whilst following the club I support. Day's long gone but not forgotten.
I never had a choice to support anyone else because I’m a Stratford boy and so is my parents, grandparents & great grandparents and you can only support West Ham. I kept the tradition going with my daughter who’s 24 now. Remember her saying Dad why do I have to support Westham ?? I said we’re do you live she Westham which is in Stratford for those that don’t know. It’s a E15 post code. I said what colour is your school uniform she claret n blue and I said who do I support and your grandad and your great grandad n ya great great grandparents. You see it’s in your blood 🩸 for as much as they break your heart you are always West Ham until you die. There’s a new traditional rear guard who carry the same old Skool values. So don’t despair gents we’re here n more being born. GSB know that loyalty still exists and they milk it. Great interview 💪🏼⚒
A really passionate discussion lads , respect to you both and to West Ham. Met Bill on a couple of occasions in the 80s . On the receiving end at Nottingham train station as in first book, we knew who you was but couldn't do anything with the big fella in the leather jacket . Then a few years later met up with Doug and Bernie in the East End and was introduced to Bill and had a few beers together. A true gentleman, respect from an Old Forest fan 👍
As a Hull City fan for 50 years I respect the proper supporters of our clubs, it’s not the working mans game anymore and all the sadder for it
Massive respect to Bill, he was without a doubt a terrace icon of legendary status at the time and some, great character in a time of so many incredible memories that unless you were there to experience it its difficult to explain and do it justice
A great interview, really enjoyed it even though not West Ham, respect from Chelsea
Thanks for posting mate
I was lucky enough to go too Upton Park and get my picture with the fa cup in 1980'' ! My old man took me - I was 7 and will never forget it-' come on you hammers! !!
I chose to be West Ham after 66 World Cup as a kid first went to West Ham from Enfield in 68 12years old told Mum Dad I was going to Spurs as knew they would not let me go West Ham as so far ...I knew nobody at first but after City away we stuck together went in Kippax and I made friends ... Loved those days home and away in seventies singing in the Boleyn with Bubbles and mates from Hemel and Gray's ..West Ham are special and I hope always will have that fantastic support , like Bill such a leader and massive respect to him , So win lose or draw .. we are West Ham ain't we ⚒️⚒️ Truly Loyal
Bill Gardner I wish we had 60 thousand Bill Gardner’s he loves us and the club what a man , god bless you bill , And bubbles thank god for you’re vision at West Ham that’s why i am West Ham COYI
Paul Bill
Like both of you I was a 5 year old when I went to my first game I'm know 68, listening to both of you talk is inspirational like Bill said I'm a Hammer always will be so keep up the the great work with Hammers United ⚒️⚒️⚒️⚒️⚒️⚒️⚒️⚒️
Been going 40 years. I won't go to the new place, it's a horrible, dispiriting experience.
Right behind you, Lads.
Great to hear from Bill.
GSB out.
COYI ⚒️
Go support your team life is short.
I love in Yeovil Somerset, been a Hammer since we won the cup in '64, that was when I fell in love.
Girls, tarts, and women have come and gone but this Hammers bird is still there with me in my heart and in my soul.
I felt for the first time for years a connection with you two guys, I've heard of you both but don't know you, but maybe I do after this video.
I joined today, and already feel part of the future.
Very best to you guys and good health to you both.
Good to see Bill looking so well. I love West Ham just like everyone else. I hope to get back the feeling i had at Upton Park so my grandkids can feel the way I did when I was a kid ⚒
Two absolute gentlemen there. Keep up the good work fellas.
Good on ya bubbles and bill my fella been following the club since 76 and still West Ham potty to this day,keep up the good work.Hammers United 👊⚒
As a Leeds Fan, was there on Saturday for the first time for the FA Cup tie. I thought it was a soulless experience!
Nothing but respect for their fans ,I remember coming back from Wolverhampton on the train with the London wolves about 100 of us and west ham fans got on at new street and when I saw them I shit myself ,but they knew we were just football fans not out for trouble and to my amazement they acknowledged us and walked on through the carriage ,real men ,real fans ,real toughies!!
Wolves and west ham are for life not for glory !!!
Love and respect for our great clubs !!
Well done Bill and Bubbles great to hear proper fans I know personally how much Bill loves this club and would love to hear more interviews like this on hammers chat
Brilliant to watch & listen to these guys talking about their club, as a Wolves fan in his early 60s so much of what they had to say resonates with me. I first went to West Ham in the 72/73 season and stood on the south bank, it was a very scary place to be for a teenager, I remember our coach driver wouldn't drop us off at the ground but left us in Leicester Square & we had to catch the tube to Upton Park, the game ended 2-2 as I remember. I've been there a few times since, the last time when the Hammers beat us in the FA cup 1-0, had a ticket to go last season but the covid put paid to that trip. Good luck to you all, I really enjoyed this video.
Thank you Paul, Bill and Gonzo for putting this video together, absolutely great format, Paul and Bill talk a lot of sense, unfortunately I don't see GSB leaving until at least 2023, we live in hope. COYI ⚒⚒⚒⚒
Top blokes, West Ham legends. You only get truth in this video. Join Hammers United, ladies and gentlemen. The more of us there are, the more we will get achieved. GSB or any new owners cannot ignore a united West Ham fan base. 👍⚒
Really enjoyed that, the celebration at the end gave me goosebumps, oh to go back to that again.
A great watch, UP gave me a tingle when I went in the ground, even as an older geezer, first went 67. It’s become a social thing now, meeting up in the boozer etc. Going to the ground is a chore. And we only live in Hornchurch! Agree with everything you boys said.
Great watch. 100% passion.
Enjoyed the chat lads , West Ham .... proper working class .... and proud .
All the best from a Barnsley fan .
i have supported Westham since i was five best moment 80 cup final im now 52 we used to go up with all the lads from Windsor dad was Spurs mum was Westham end of story only one club for me
As an NUFC supporter i could not agree more with the comments you lads are making and how passionate you are about your club, YOUR club.We have the same here with ashley,fans like us both WHUFC and NUFC need to organise to get these vermin out of OUR clubs.
David Moyes is making West Ham a real force.
Merci Gonzo for that.... So much passion for their football club... Amazing to see.... Cheers again! COYI!!
Bought Bills book last week and read same day! Real nice man, always nice feeling to see him at an away game!
My brother had a poster of West Ham in about 1980 and it stuck with us even though he’s a Blue. Even though they relegated us in ‘87 and beat us in the cup at Maine Road in ‘97 but I still like and check their scores. Great club they are. . .
My first game was the 1980 FA cup quarter final between Villa and West Ham at Upton Park when you scored a last minute penalty winner...
Interesting listen. Two proper Hammers who I can relate to. I spent my youth going home and away with Southend United and for all the very regular "lows" - the rare, rare "high" could not be matched by any club anywhere from Madrid to Millmoor. I listen and see it is similar up the road too. One club - always!
Great video, my Nan used to give Dennis dinners he was a good friend of my Dad at school, be good to see the good old days back for him and the die hards
I remember May 10th 1980, I was 12. We'd moved away in '75, just after the Fulham final, so my old man (born in Cann Hall in 1910) and I watched it on the box. When Geno nodded it in on 13 minutes my Dad simply shook my hand and winked.
Then, many years later, I took my boy, aged 5, to Wigan when we lost a 2-0 lead and got relegated.
Yet last week we were both doing our nut when Lanzini equalised. COYI.
Cann Hall Rd, just round the corner from my old gaff in forest Gate. 👍 ⚒️
Brilliant convo lads COYI ... Its amazing how well we are doing on the pitch now.. Imagine it with a full on crowd at the church !
Up the hammers! All the best! !
As an American supporter who hasn't so much as been to England, even I miss The Boleyn. ⚒
No you don’t
@@markweston8089 good talk.
bet you do Frodo.....
I had some dangerous encounters at the old Boleyn 83-87 as a Everton lad, You had to be savvy to get through the visit but we loved it… Well on top the minute you came out the station it was frightening but boss💪 West Ham team 85-86 was quality and playing Everton last game of the season could have been a decider? Fireworks before and after that match, unfortunately no European footy because of those of horrible clowns Liverpool
Was there that night. Great atmosphere
Good listen this, really enjoyed it fellas.
The one game that i remember was 1975 quarter final of the fa cup v Arsenal at highbury it rained all day we took the north bank and Alan taylor got the two goals on a very muddy ground.
Love how you said you feel sorry for the youngsters Bill. My two have never seen us come close to winning anything. Hope they do soon. COYI!
Great Reminiscing, cheers.
Derby fan here but big respect to west ham, proper fans,proper history,proper club.
Love this, I’m 46 but relate to everything you’ve said. I miss real football - the Premier League put paid to it.
Bubbles' last few words and that ending wow. I'm welling up boys. Well done ⚒ GSB OUT
I'm not a West Ham fan but I enjoy listening to ex ICF members.
I'm a Man City Fan and will always remember the documentary in the 80s, then facing them months later, scary times but memorable.
All the best to that crowd.
🙏🏾👍🏾😄
Your welcome.
This is a great discussion lads. Confirms everything I suspected was happening at West ham. Very sad to hear and is very much about what has happened in modern football. Massive to respect to old school West ham. First London fans to make their presence felt at Ayresome park back in the 70's.
total respect lads
Thanks for a brilliant chat tross and bill. Let's keep our dreams alive. COYI ⚒
That's Bubbles and Bill mate - I was official teaboy and biscuit carrier for them and Gonzo in the background on this is one ;-) Tross
Another great vid with Bill..proper old skool..proper fan..saw you a few times back in the day when west ham played united..the cup in 85 was special 😉...gave as good as you got..total respect for you Bill!..from a united fan!👍👹
Proper lads 💪🏻
Brilliant video! ⚒
Been waiting for a interview from bill gardener thanks
That is spot on football fans from 40 to 50 years ago were fans not anymore it's all about money.
Hope your keeping OK Bill meet you in Spain 82 World Cup when we went there by coach also the time we ended up in hospital after fight in bar , one of many Chelsea fans out there. All the best football fans will never be the same.
So much respect for Bill Gardner from a Stoke city supporter
Great watch, nice to hear those stories.
LLTB ⚒⚒⚒
Great stuff i am nearly 62 and have been west ham all my fuckin life and my father who is no longer here took me to the whu all them yrs ago i want it back again not like the shit it is now keep up the great work
Iv been going 53 year all home games 65% away games very honest remarks from 2 top men great
Give the winners of the FA cup the fourth CL spot. Good chat lads.
ive been with westham for over 60 yrs now i cant come to westham now but cant stop wanting them to be ok but the game i remember was when we played manchester city and brooking took over we won but city were relagated and we all went over to there side singing ur be back ur be back great days
I'm sure it was in the 70s all our lot went over to there supporters throwing our scaves as u no we had the same colours and they thru theres back onto the ground
Man City was last game of the season in May 1987.
Bubbles is a ferret! Wgc! One my old man's mates! Nice lad and respect
My first memory of fa Cup final West ham v Fulham...always admired the hammers...remember carlton leach saying he had a soft spot for my club man city because it was a club like the hammers I felt the same...when I was a young fan in the early 80s Bill Gardner name alone was frightening.
Great watch.👏👏👏👏👏👏
What a great watch COYI So much truth spoken, totally agree with an area at the ground for like minded fans, not too far up the stairs tho
Gills fan here. Enjoyed that.
Smashing video lads ❤️⚒
Thing is when West Ham came to Newcastle in the 80s the crowds jumped from 14-15 thousand to over 25000 and all the nutters came out, then you had the nutters in the pub, so all ways a edge and a buzz, I've went through the progression of changing stands part of grounds through growing up, when we played West ham it was a 8am start and a 11pm finish, West ham away 6pm start Friday 12 midnight Saturday finish, no doubt like irons fans I've seen the ground jumping with 25000 in, then going home buzzing
So much of a pleasure to listen to you Gentleman . West Ham fan from Birmingham. So angry what has happened to my club. Everything you have said in the video is so , so right . Those clowns have to get out of the club . They have taken away the history , the traditions & everything that the club has stood for . But West Ham fans , are real fans & will be there when them clowns have gone . My hero was always Alan Devonshire . They to me have insulted legends like Devo . By what they have done to our club . Cannot wait till they have gone out of the club for good .
I watched the cup winners cup at Wembley and the final the year before and the muddy marvels in Sheffield
Snap. Great years they were never to be forgotten.
Best wishes Derek
im a very proud geordie , ive been a west ham fan since 1976 , i travel from newcastle and i get accepted , and my son is a hammer now , love west ham always will.
Proud Geordie yet not proud to support the Geordie boys????? 😆 😆 😆 😆
@@BarkingLondon whats the problem ?
All the years we suffered made Prague so special, we’re not just a club we’re a family ⚒️⚒️⚒️
Bill was our manager at Upton Park on pitch we got to the final and lost 1-0 but weren’t about winning it was about the whole day there and having such a gent like bill looking after us , thanks bill 👍
thanks lamby,hope you are well.
@@billgardner4660 thanks bill 👍
Love West Ham and their fans. West Ham are Mcfcs favourite London club. Before the money hit City we were just like West Ham
Leeds here and a very good watch!
When we made it to the cwcf in 1975 on my first wedding aniversary i remember saying to my mates we have to go we might not ever make it to another final not really thinking we would,nt. But sadly that has been the case............ my first game was 67/68 season too Bubbles.
Respect to them that’s what West Ham is true love and break heart irons
I am Old school West Ham me and my mates used to walk from Dagenham to to Upton Park every home game when we were teenagers back in the 80’s and go into the chicken run watch the match have a laugh etc, my point is I was at the last home match before COVID kicked in, while the match was playing I got passionate and through despair I was effing and blinding at the play as you do, at half time I went for a beer then came back to my seat only to be approached by 3 stewards and be told that they had a complaint made against me swearing and if I carried on I would be moved from the stadium, as I looked around I saw a family with hamper box a few seats to my side obviously it was them that made the complaint, I explained to the stewards when I went to my first West Ham match in 1975 there was more effing and blinding it’s the passion and it’s so sad that these people who are not fans and don’t understand our passion are killing our team and those joke stewards need sacking too. It ain’t West Ham anymore 😢⚒⚒⚒
How can anyone go see west ham and not have a swear up..? Not possible.
How on earth and why were they let in with a hamper or even a packed lunch??
They should have been turned away or at least have it confiscated.
If they asked why, the answer back should have been "middle class cunts aren't allowed in there"
That’s very sad. Unfortunately that’s the way our game has gone. Bloody tourists and face painted middle class idiots have taken over our game to such an extent that we can’t even swear in the ground anymore. The club owners love these people though because they’re money. They see these idiots as pound signs. I’m not a West Ham fan but I totally agree with you. It’s the same at virtually every premier league ground. We need to force these people out.
Dean this is it now mate isint it what UTTER rubbish mate that at a football game you cant swear at a football match showing our passion. Its BOLLOCKS. I'd of uppercutted the stewards Dean low. I've had somebody tell me that his mate went and he is old school West Ham was he was told to sit down and stop his swearing by a West Ham Supporter. Are you fing joking that never happened when I went and I'm old school. I use to go fing mad psycho swearing fing and jeffing standing in the North Bank trying to get on the pitch to the opposition players and having it with the opposition fans lol. It's not the same anymore.
We used to walk from Ilford 😂
More of these please, chaps. These are as much West Ham greats as the likes of Bonds, Brooking, Moore etc. They put in the miles, through the good, the bad and the downright shit. Enjoy these men while we have them and listen when they speak. Proper West Ham, enjoyable to listen to and even when we're not crusading to get the GSB cancer out of our club, I'd love a Bubbles and Bill podcast. I know Bubbles isn't the most technologically efficient, but someone set up a venue (Gonzo) and get these boys talking more.
COYI!
Thanks mate.
It ain't easy because we had to book a conference room and all 4 of us live in different areas so it was a long day but a fantastic one.
I'll definitely look to do something again though because I believe these videos are best done in person rather than a webcam.
I’m a Hull city lad & have a huge respect for West Ham, they’ve been shovelled into a soul less concrete bowl like we have & I blame the foundation of the P.L, when the game sold out to money.
Well chaps, I really enjoyed your company this morning. As a Gooner, I also have the same anger and frustrations that you have, as I'm sure thousands of fans from our generation and working class backgrounds all over this nation also have. We have seen our clubs taken over by the quick money making corporate machines, full of greed and lies. I long for the Highbury days, but this is because it's where my love affair for my club began. Of course I can now sit in a more comfortable seat and have a great view of the game, but the atmosphere is just not there, You will of course find pockets of both old school and hard core fans, but the majority are very much the modern day fan, and for many of them it is just like going to the theatre. Unfortunately, like many that have moved on from our clubs (I recall we lost a lot of fans when we introduced the supporters bond back in the 80's, which was the start of corporate development), some have stuck with it but are somewhat unhappy and many others have since moved on to non Premiership clubs. Ultimately, we are now the dinosaurs and whilst we remember the greats of the past i.e. Bobby Moore, Geoff Hurst, Clyde Best, Liam Brady, Charlie George and Gus Caesar, to name but a few, todays fans don't know these players, which of course is sacrilege to the likes of us. Anyway enough of this doom and gloom, we are fortunate to have our memories and the opportunity to share these with our mates and grandchildren. looking forward to seeing The Hammers once this Covid is over, why you may ask, cheap seats of course. : ) : ) ; )
It's always good to listen to real fans talking like this, as an Evertonian I fear we will lose something special when we leave Goodison Park the same way West Ham did when they moved to Stratford.
Your right I fully expect Goodison will be replaced with soulless flats.
The Brummies told us what would happen and they were right
It's what happens when gsb piss off though that is the main problem.
When you look at what Birmingham have gone through since they left because of the people that have bought into them.
All crap business people looking to make a quick buck with no idea. I just hope that when they do see sense and leave that they don't sell us to anyone.
@@motr1912 I can tell you this, this trilogy gsb accepted a dodgy Chineseman's £81m with little knowledge of football and screwed us right up in the end, snapped this fella's hand off they did, without looking into his background. Of this trilogy i could tell you many a thing about b, but i can't on an open forum for liable reasons. Ironically, under the China mans stewardship we won only our second honour in 136 years, he got arrested not long after, we was relegated and been shit ever since.
Bill's comments about the owners is spot on, and exactly how we was treated at BCFC, 'customers' ffs.
Bill is absolutely spot on about fans that turn up late and leave early. I've seen groups turn up late, piss off to get a drink 10 mins before half time, get back late and leave before the end.
It's not exclusive to the current stadium as it happened at the Boleyn too but I've vever understood it.
Being so poor for much of the time I've been going, I've never left early even when getting absolutely pummelled.
And as for other team fans in our ground, what about half and half scarves? The most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. Every fucking game and no matter where you go. Have a word.
Lastly, I do wonder if people are getting their hopes up in thinking that gsb will go by the end of this season and if they do, we need owners who have a never ending supply of money. We can't have another owner like Cearns, Brown and GSB.
First ever game October 1979 a 1-2 defeat to Luton town, were Gluttons for punishment ⚒
big respect thank you very much any chance of a part 2 steve
I'm a Coventry city fan, 38 years , through the ups and the downs, ( mainly the downs being a cov city fan lol) but I think west ham are in a very similar position to us. You dont own the ground do you? We had highfield rd, yh an old studium. 30,000 capacity. But it had a soul, an atmosphere. The fans were on top of ya. No matter who came we were confident of a win. And we were in the top flight for 34 years before we were relegated. The stadium got sold off to housing developers and we never built another stadium. We rented the ricoh arena off the Coventry city council. Things wet sour and we had to leave there and play at Northamptons ground, then we came to an agreement with the council and came back briefly. Then we fell out with them again and now we're playing at Birmingham city's ground St Andrew's. The money we got for the old ground has mysteriously disappeared. All in all we're in the shit. Make sure this dosent happen to west ham. A couple of bad seasons is all you need. Relegation got forbid and how many fans will come to the matches at the Olympic stadium? Things start going sour. Stop the rot before it happens fellas
Steam off their piss lol, well said Bill, Stevie Love.
Paul deep down is a good guy despite the corner flag stick. Bill you are a legend - your blood is probably claret and blue. Cheers Nigel
Great video ! True fans
We’re West Ham, we’re crazy, we’re off to Cremonese. Anglo Italian classic..
Remember Chelsea 1980, at Stamford Bridge. West Ham took the Nell Gwynn pub. Bill and about 6 others walked around to the Shed End turnstiles and called it on
I enjoyed that. As a Spurs fan of the same age as you blokes, I totally agree. Football has sold it's soul, it was a working class lads day out, but now it's entertainment. I miss the old days