The sub is so often overlooked / ignored. However, it makes such an astonishing difference to the sound. It really transforms your setup. Highly recommended
Did you put your sub under/near your TV facing the sofa or next to your sofa? curious on a Sub set up- since I seen it placed both next to sofa/chair or right next to TV.
I currently have a Sonos Beam Gen 2 and using two IKEA Symfonisk bookshelf speakers with IKEA stand as rear channel. It perfect for small space and also a budget friendly way to add surrounds to your existing Sonos.
Thanks from the U.S.A . Just got the Beam 1 brand new from Sonos for 299.99. Bought the new mini sub and already had the pair of ones. Watch your video and set them up. Sound great. Most helpful of all the videos I watched.
I use bookshelf Symfonisks as rears. They are loud enough for me. I've never really missed a bass because of my Arc's capability to produce enough of it. Maybe someday I'll think about it. But, yes, rears before sub.
Thank you! Came here for the last part about the surround distance. I noticed while playing games that character voices would be louder form the surround speakers. Trueplay assumed the distance was more than 10 feet when in reality it was 2 feet.
I use a Sonos Amp with a pair of floor standing speakers as fronts, a wired sub and a pair of Sonos ones as surrounds for a 4.1 setup. It doesn’t seem to be a set up that gets spoken of much but its perfect for me. It has voice control, it’s great for films with the sub for the rumbles and the surrounds but it brilliant for music either stereo for enjoying music or all 4.1 for a loud party mode.
If I where to get a sonos amp , could I run the arc , amp , 2 ones and a powerd sub of my choosing 🤔 , or would there be delays between the amp and arc , juat don't wanna spend 1000 on a sub
@@tiegeraymond7223 I don’t think it would group up perfectly. Your arc and ones would be one room and amp with the wired active sub would be another. You could group them together but it’d be clunky and for the price difference you’d be better to get the Sonos sub, I think imo. If you don’t own an arc yet, I’d go amp and your choice of fronts and active sub. If you own the arc then I’d go Sonos sub. Personal opinion obviously.
I picked up a Beam Gen 2 first, loved it. Then I got some 2nd hand Play 1's for rears, amazing. I had to then add that Sub. Picked up a 2nd hand white Gen 2 and OMG.....it's just incredible!
Bought the Sonos arc one week ago after having just a 2 channel Samsung soundbar with a sub. I was totally blown away from the sound of the arc. The loudness and clear tone and clear dialog. Anyway, yesterday i bought the Sonos one sl for surround..holy moly how much fun every single movie became to watch. Easy set up and it just sounded amazing. Next up would be a sub. Not sure yet if i should go for the mini or the gen 3, but we will see.(depends on how much bass the neighbors can handle before complaining 🤣) Nice review from you guys. Learned a few things about the app. 👍🏻
One of the best videos I’ve seen regarding surrounds. I have the original Sonos Ones just brought and set up the Sonos stands connected to my Sonos Beam gen 2 and the surrounds sound awful they are intermittent and sound crackly when watching TV.. I have tried factory reset.. and they play music from Spotify brilliantly as surround in both Ambient and Full.. but such an annoying intermittent sound with movies and crackly with TV.. no idea how to sort this out.. UPDATE reset my Sky Hub and it’s corrected the issue.. wow what a difference surround makes 😊
Thank you so much or this video! It has helped me a lot. I live in a small apartment and just bought the Sonos Beam + 2x Sonos Ones. That smaller 'apartment set up' helped me visualise the best way to position my speakers. Truly helpful.THANK YOU!
Great vid as always, als love the new studio! Perhaps a suggestion, could you do a vid showing different mounting brackets and cable management options for ones as rears? Seeing both the beam and arc spaces use floor stands it might be good to swap one out to show what other possibilities there are.
Thanks for the comment and yes we do now have some wall mounted Sonos speakers in the showroom which I’m sure we will cover in upcoming videos. Hope this helps and thanks for watching.
Great video. I'm running the Beam 1 gen with a sub and 2 1s as rear speakers. Mr. Lucas was wrong, if you are blind. :) Sound and dialogue are everything.
I have 2 fives for my phono and beam and surrounds (Sonos sl). I position the phono and fives at the fron of the room and set them significantly lower in volume when watching movies- works well, fills out the sound. Sounds amazing for playing music.
I have a Beam, but it’s not beefy enough for my room, so I’m thinking of adding 2x Fives. Good to hear that you are pleased with that setup. I often use the TV to play TH-cam music vids. Have you used your setup for that purpose ? Are you using the Fives in a surround mode, or just as extra beef ?
@@SuperSimonLewis yes, sounds great. Only thing to anticipate if adding two fives to the front of your entertainment area is that if they are set at the same level as the beam and or surrounds you will get an annoying echo (When speech is involved during tv/ movie). Personally, I find a good balance when I have the volume of my fives around three or four and my beam and surrounds at 20. Both set at equal volume for music. I have my beam and surrounds set up as tv room and my fives as a separate room 2.
I just purchased 2 One SL's to complete my system with my Arc and sub and they should arrive by the end of the week. Can't wait!! Loved the info about positioning!! Thanks and cheers!!😄😁🍻🍻
I’m using the ikea Symfonisk lamps as rears and they sound great! I am, however, considering saving up for a pair of five’s as my room is long and rears are a little further than I’d like (had to compromise with wife for placement 😂)
@@quickelement 99% of the time they work perfectly. Only a few times they fell out of sync with the arc, in which case all I needed to do is unplug them and re-plug them back in to reset. That’s only happened like twice so I wouldn’t worry about this if you’re considering 👍🏾
i was considering getting symfonisk but i kept hearing one thing, they didn't sound as well as ones and can hold up against not needing to upgrade to fives. it gave me the impression of entry level "lets try surround setup in my home and i'll upgrade later" path, whereas the ones felt like the budget friendly way cause not having the want or need to upgrade to fives. but idk those wall panel/paintings of ikea symfonisk that just came out look so tempting...
I just learned that my surrounds should be oriented in a straight forward position. I currently have them directed to the prime listening position in my rather large living room. Many thanks for the tech advise!!
This video is wrong and goes against Dolby's recommended ideal setup. At the end of the day, a full Sonos setup is still just going to be 5.x.x. Surrounds should be pointed inwards towards the center of the couch, not forwards towards the TV. Try both orientations for yourself with your own setup and see which sounds better.
@@memphus Thanks for the feedback. Keeping my surrounds pointed to the central listening position. Still waiting for the SONOS update to fix the response of my subs.
THANK YOU SO MUCH!! I just set up my new system (Arc, sub, two Era 100s for surround, plus two more Era 100s for music in other rooms) and I was so disappointed that the two Era 100 surround speakers were essentially useless for playing music. Sonos seems quite thoughtfully designed so I hoped there'd be away to change their volume for listening to music or automatically unpair them for music playback. Voila! You answered my question. :)
I'm using Beam + 2 Ones, with a wall behind a sofa. Dolby is recommending pointing surrounds towards the seating position, so I'm curious why did you decide to keep surrounds almost pointing straight ahead? Thanks!
Got the beam, sub and two sl. It's great. The only downside of my setup is that both sl are more positioned next to the couch then really behind me. I can position the right one behind me but not sure if that's a good way to go?? What do you recommend? 1. Both beside the couch next to me Or 2. Left beside the couch next to me and right beside the couch behind me. Would appreciate your feedback.
I ended up going for the Ikea picture frame speakers for mine. While they’re not in the optimal position they do sound very good with a little tweaking in the Sonos app.
Just purchased Arc , sub and a pair of ONE. It was with pain in my heart to to say goodbye to my hi-end Dynaudio system. Optimising via this video (thx for that) might ease the pain and the wife is happy with no longer having all the thick cables running through the living room. Question: wouldn't it be best to have the surrounds about 2-3 meters diagonally behind the couch as you than have a more balanced experience from both surround speakers? That was my experience in cabled system.
Thank you for this video. I have the sub, Arc, and two ones in a 10x15 bedroom. All I have in there is a two seat couch, entertainment TV and a PS5. I would love to get that great sound of of my Sonos system.
Would anyone recommend the IKEA symfonisk picture frame speakers? Based on my layout they would be mounted on opposing walls on either side of my sofa. That would be an alternative to a pair of 1SL’s…the frame option would be cheaper than the speaker + stand option…saving about AUD200. I have an Arc and sub Gen3 already which I’m looking to get surrounds for.
I got the arc, 2 one's sl on brackets, and my prised possession the glorious sonos sub. You'll think your set up is great until you get the sub, then it sounds amazing, expensive yes, but very much needed. Do some overtime and treat yourselves. Trust me
Great video. Loved your style. Unfortunately the Sonos Beam and Arc only have one ARC connection, which of course is eARC to enable full Atmos audio signal from the TV to Sonos, as long as your TV is new enough to have eARC. If not, and you do not want to buy a new TV, you'd have to buy an Apple TV. But as the Sonos only has one ARC connection you can't feed the Apple TV to the Sonos and the feed the video signal from the Sonos to your old TV. (The reverse path.) You have to also buy a Fury splitter to go from the Apple TV to feed the video signal to your TV and the full Atmos audio signal to the Sonos. And so if I wanted just one extra feature on the Sonos Arc it would be to have 2 eARC connections to enable pass through. If I am incorrect on any of the above, please correct me!
As far as I know, ARC and eARC output sound on different pins on the HDMI cable & splitters cannot convert HDMI eARC, so using a splitter like that won't work you won't get any sound. As for HDMI 2.1/eARC and Atmos, if your TV only has HDMI 2.0/Arc then yeah you wont be able to get 'Full Uncompressed Atmos' BUT... couple things, just wanna say Sonos Arc/Sub etc are very expensive, don't have Bluetooth etc so obviously if you want to latest greatest home theatre audio with Atmos support well firstly you're going to need a TV to match (like putting Expensive Rims on sh#t car), Sonos Arc soundbar+sub is the most expensive offering out there but there are other great surround sound of you're on HDMI 2.0/ARC, using DD+ (Dolby Digital Plus) & support 7.1 with higher quality audio than regular DD (Dolby Digital) THEN AGAIN! eARC is backwards compatible with ARC... Yes it will be lossy compression to DD+, WHICH BY THE WAY is designed to sound as close to the source material as possible and youll hardly be able tell difference. SO if you wanted to grab one of the Sonos Atmos enabled bars now which will still work lovely even if you only have HDMi 2.0b/ARC TV and you'll be good for the future when you eventually get a new TV as well 😊
Wow awesome video!! I‘ve learned so much about sound in just a few minutes. I bought the sonos stands and now I have a great setup. I just need the sonos mini sub, then it‘s perfect. The best things was the settings part. I was wondering for a year on how I can listen to „full“ music.
Well, I was going to go with the ceiling speakers but now I may just do the One SL set up. Was hoping to avoid having speakers on a stand in the room. But having speakers at listening height makes sense...
Great informative video as always. I would like to see a setup using all the Ikea products with recommendations 😎. Possible using a beam to support the purchase of another system w/IKEA
Just replaced 2 SLs on either side of the living room couch with 2 new model SYMFONISK lamps. Love the look and the reduced space requirement! If you read this comment, any thoughts/tips with using those as surrounds? Does the sound emanate more circular rather than unidirectional?
I have an odd shaped room. Imagine a rectangular shaped open room concept (family room). The TV is above a fireplace at the top right corner. I have kept a Sonos arc below the TV on the fireplace mantle. There are two sofas and one recliner. One sofa is against the wall on the bottom edge, while other sofa is on the top edge and open from behind. The best viewing angle is either from the recliner which is placed between the two sofas and facing the TV or from the bottom edge sofa. I would like to understand where to place two surround speakers in this instance. I don’t have enough space behind or next to the sofa. I was thinking of mounting the speakers 8 feet above on the bottom edge wall. Thoughts?
Need advice… I just added the Sonos amp to my system, previously I had my Sonos arc sound-bar HDMI into LG 77 C2 arc TV port, after adding the amp, the arc port on the back of the amp can I run the arc cable from the amp to the arc sound bar bypassing the TV?…. when I put an HDMI cable from the amp arc port to the TV arc port …I had echo sounding speakers over each other…. they’re not synced….any thoughts …the amp is driving ….two external Polk audio in ceiling speakers… when I added the amp I set it up as stereo, I can control the in ceiling speakers with the app…. So I’m most concerned about is whether or not I should keep the arc sound bar connected to the TV arc or connect the amp arc port straight to the sound bar bypassing the TV, that’s what I would like to know, any thoughts?
I have 18 Sonos speakers and had them all on for whole house audio (1 Arc, 3 Beams, 4 Gen 3 Subs, 4 Symfonisk bookshelf, 2 Fives, 2 One SLs, 2 Beams). I think the max is 32 Sonos speakers at once.
Absolutely love your videos. Unfortunately I use them purely for advice as I'm not based in the UK so I can't make use of any of your other services. Personally, I got the ARC first then the sub as I'm bass hungry. MASSIVE improvement to my audio experience. I was toying with the idea of a second sub next however I think it may be more feasible getting the One SL's as my rears first. In terms of positioning, my couch is against the wall so they'll have to be wall mounted. I presume I'll need to angle them a bit towards the listener as well in this case?
Great question. I have read conflicting answers to that question. Some say angle towards prime listening position; others to position facing front wall.
What happens to the physical volume slider on the Rear speakers when in a surround setup? Does it just get disabled? Or does each speaker adjust every speaker’s volume at the same time? Thinking of doing Era 300’s as rear speakers
Hi there, the stands we have up against the wall are the Flexson ones. The stands we have behind the sofa are Sonos' own ones. Hope that helps and thank you for your kind words.
I have a question for you. I have a bit of an older Sonos system. I’ve got the Sonos subwoofer, playbar, and two Play Ones first generation. It works fantastic for my purpose. I have recently acquired two more Play Ones, first generation. Where would you put those? Would you use those as sides, or front left and right?
I don't understand why Sonos don't let 2 speakers to act as front left and right with soundbar as centre. That will dramatically improve your sound as oppose to soundbar taking duties of left/right stereo and also when you want to listen to music you can have great stereo speakers instead of listening to the soundbar.
Maybe my setup is bad but I have an arc and two play ones front left and right because I can’t put them in the rear. I did the true tuning and my assumption was since they’re just called surrounds that didn’t require them to be in the baxk
I do have plenty of room in my room to position my stand mounted surrounds as I choose. I keep hearing different recommendations for best positioning. I currently have my rears angled towards the prime listening position as some have recommended. Your positioning would be with no angle; straight forward pointing to the front. Please comment. Ty
Help me lol I have a sofa but it's flush to the wall but on one side I have a radiator and on the over side I have a corner bit leads on to the back door how would I position my One SL speakers?
I currently have 2 Ikea symfonisk speakers in my living room! Also i would like to connect to them trought bluetooth! What would be the best way to get that sorted out? Does sonos have a device that can do this?
Thank you for the great video. I just got my Beam gen 2 yesterday and eagerly set up my surround. It was nice but the sound coming from the rear speakers (2 Sonos One) is less than what I expected. I almost couldn't tell if the. rear speakers are working unless I listen very closely to the rear speakers. Is that what surround sound should be? I'll change the Surround Music Playback to full as you recommended and see if it makes the different. Anyway, the Beam gen 2 is more powerful than I expected, works great!
Whenever theres something from the left rear, i hear the same amount of volume from the right rear. This kills the idea of surround. How do i fix this?
It depends on the audio source being encoded to give you separate rear surrounds, upward Atmos, or side audio. Having an eArc TV or listening to Atmos audio will get you closer than Stereo or Dolby 5.1 audio.
Do you not want to rear speakers perpendicular to the tv in the apartment setup because the front speakers and rears will clash with each other due to the wall behind the sofa? It looks like if there's space behind the sofa in the first setup, the rears are setup facing the tv aka perpendicular to the tv.
Help! It’s the voice part I need nearer to my ears. So with these additional speakers, can I adjust the voice to be louder so I can hear what’s being said?! Much appreciated!
I have a room where my Sofas form a L shape and they face the corner of my living room where my tv is located. My plan was to have 3 sonos 1 speakers to place as surround speakers to fill the space is that possible? My thinking is one sonos Either end of the L and in the corner of the hell another speaker speaker
The only way would be to use the Sub Out on the Sonos Amp but I would strongly advise against doing this as it won't give you the official 0.1 in the 5.1 set up due to the way the Amp will be configured. If you would like to use a Sub with the Sonos system, really the best way of doing it is via the Sonos Sub and you also don't need to run an additional cable. Hope this helps!
I don't need surround sound speakers. By using my 2 front speakers with crosstalk cancellation, i can achieve a true 3 dimensional soundstage whereby the room and the speakers "disappear."
Excellent informative video, I have a question, I have a sonos beam and 2 sonos 5, the sonos 5 are connected also to a turn table, what is the best way to keep the surround effect from the beam and also listen music from the turn table without unable the souround effect??
Great video especially when the reference is to the Fives for rears. The key is ambient sound for TV and depending on seating position , well too loud for music. For me that is overkill and my Fives despite being in the same room are much better for music. Hey if I wanted I could group it all anyways...LOL. I almost agreed with the SL except for the following. I did buy the Ones and not SL version figuring Sonos would eventually catch up to other developers who have speakers in the rear that point up and across. This maybe a very real thing coming soon for Sonos. Now I can take my Ones and use the voice in the other room. This for me was a better decision since the cost difference really is marginal. Other than that I would have just bought the 1's (and not the Ones) from a while ago since they would have been less than half the cost and have the same sound benefits.
Im not sure if theyre still replying, but ive got 4 sono one sl, beam and mini sub. Ive been fortunate on the fb market place. My question would be where should i put the two non rear one sl for best experience.
If I buy 4 era 100s and connect them to my arc+sub will I be able to use the entire system as a 5.1 surround? Arc being center channel 2 era front left and right 2 era rear left and right Or they can only manage being rear speakers?
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The sub is so often overlooked / ignored. However, it makes such an astonishing difference to the sound. It really transforms your setup. Highly recommended
100% 🚀
I got the sub in my bundle mindblowing 😂
Not if you live in an apartment 🤧😭😭😭😭😭
I actually took the sub off in my living room because the base was a little more than I wanted. But it’s amazing in my home theater.
Did you put your sub under/near your TV facing the sofa or next to your sofa? curious on a Sub set up- since I seen it placed both next to sofa/chair or right next to TV.
I currently have a Sonos Beam Gen 2 and using two IKEA Symfonisk bookshelf speakers with IKEA stand as rear channel. It perfect for small space and also a budget friendly way to add surrounds to your existing Sonos.
Ikea doesn't have those now, out of stock. Darn!
I use the Symfonisk bookshelf speakers as the rears and I get great results plus at a much smaller cost.
I did the exact same I gave €100 each for them the one's are €200 each. It's a no brainer
The guy obviously has an agenda.
Thanks from the U.S.A . Just got the Beam 1 brand new from Sonos for 299.99. Bought the new mini sub and already had the pair of ones. Watch your video and set them up. Sound great. Most helpful of all the videos I watched.
Excellent informative video As a Sonos devotee this set up guide was invaluable especially the rears positioning with a non standard room setup 👍
My Sonos ARC came to life with the Gen 3 sub, a total different system. My Beam with the Mini also. The surround will come later 😊
I use bookshelf Symfonisks as rears. They are loud enough for me. I've never really missed a bass because of my Arc's capability to produce enough of it. Maybe someday I'll think about it. But, yes, rears before sub.
Thank you! Came here for the last part about the surround distance.
I noticed while playing games that character voices would be louder form the surround speakers. Trueplay assumed the distance was more than 10 feet when in reality it was 2 feet.
I use a Sonos Amp with a pair of floor standing speakers as fronts, a wired sub and a pair of Sonos ones as surrounds for a 4.1 setup. It doesn’t seem to be a set up that gets spoken of much but its perfect for me. It has voice control, it’s great for films with the sub for the rumbles and the surrounds but it brilliant for music either stereo for enjoying music or all 4.1 for a loud party mode.
If I where to get a sonos amp , could I run the arc , amp , 2 ones and a powerd sub of my choosing 🤔 , or would there be delays between the amp and arc , juat don't wanna spend 1000 on a sub
@@tiegeraymond7223 I don’t think it would group up perfectly. Your arc and ones would be one room and amp with the wired active sub would be another. You could group them together but it’d be clunky and for the price difference you’d be better to get the Sonos sub, I think imo.
If you don’t own an arc yet, I’d go amp and your choice of fronts and active sub. If you own the arc then I’d go Sonos sub. Personal opinion obviously.
I recently added the Bookshelf Speakers as surrounds to my In-wall Sonos & Sub Gen 3. A great upgrade indeed!
I picked up a Beam Gen 2 first, loved it. Then I got some 2nd hand Play 1's for rears, amazing. I had to then add that Sub. Picked up a 2nd hand white Gen 2 and OMG.....it's just incredible!
Bought the Sonos arc one week ago after having just a 2 channel Samsung soundbar with a sub. I was totally blown away from the sound of the arc. The loudness and clear tone and clear dialog. Anyway, yesterday i bought the Sonos one sl for surround..holy moly how much fun every single movie became to watch. Easy set up and it just sounded amazing. Next up would be a sub. Not sure yet if i should go for the mini or the gen 3, but we will see.(depends on how much bass the neighbors can handle before complaining 🤣)
Nice review from you guys. Learned a few things about the app. 👍🏻
Gen 3 and you can always control the amount the sub goes off
One of the best videos I’ve seen regarding surrounds. I have the original Sonos Ones just brought and set up the Sonos stands connected to my Sonos Beam gen 2 and the surrounds sound awful they are intermittent and sound crackly when watching TV.. I have tried factory reset.. and they play music from Spotify brilliantly as surround in both Ambient and Full.. but such an annoying intermittent sound with movies and crackly with TV.. no idea how to sort this out..
UPDATE reset my Sky Hub and it’s corrected the issue.. wow what a difference surround makes 😊
Thank you so much or this video! It has helped me a lot. I live in a small apartment and just bought the Sonos Beam + 2x Sonos Ones. That smaller 'apartment set up' helped me visualise the best way to position my speakers. Truly helpful.THANK YOU!
Glad I could help!
Great vid as always, als love the new studio! Perhaps a suggestion, could you do a vid showing different mounting brackets and cable management options for ones as rears? Seeing both the beam and arc spaces use floor stands it might be good to swap one out to show what other possibilities there are.
Thanks for the comment and yes we do now have some wall mounted Sonos speakers in the showroom which I’m sure we will cover in upcoming videos. Hope this helps and thanks for watching.
Best channel on YT tbh, great content, great presentation.
Great video. I'm running the Beam 1 gen with a sub and 2 1s as rear speakers. Mr. Lucas was wrong, if you are blind. :) Sound and dialogue are everything.
And if you are not 60%
I have 2 fives for my phono and beam and surrounds (Sonos sl). I position the phono and fives at the fron of the room and set them significantly lower in volume when watching movies- works well, fills out the sound. Sounds amazing for playing music.
I have a Beam, but it’s not beefy enough for my room, so I’m thinking of adding 2x Fives. Good to hear that you are pleased with that setup. I often use the TV to play TH-cam music vids. Have you used your setup for that purpose ? Are you using the Fives in a surround mode, or just as extra beef ?
@@SuperSimonLewis yes, sounds great. Only thing to anticipate if adding two fives to the front of your entertainment area is that if they are set at the same level as the beam and or surrounds you will get an annoying echo (When speech is involved during tv/ movie). Personally, I find a good balance when I have the volume of my fives around three or four and my beam and surrounds at 20. Both set at equal volume for music. I have my beam and surrounds set up as tv room and my fives as a separate room 2.
Great video! I use the Symfonisk picture frames as my surrounds and love them. I heard it’s equivalent to the Sonos ones
I just purchased 2 One SL's to complete my system with my Arc and sub and they should arrive by the end of the week. Can't wait!! Loved the info about positioning!! Thanks and cheers!!😄😁🍻🍻
Exactly what I’ve been looking for… thanks for providing a precise instructional video
I’m using the ikea Symfonisk lamps as rears and they sound great! I am, however, considering saving up for a pair of five’s as my room is long and rears are a little further than I’d like (had to compromise with wife for placement 😂)
That’s awesome! That’s what I was thinking of doing as well. Any issues using them as surround sound?
I’m thinking about the same
@@quickelement 99% of the time they work perfectly. Only a few times they fell out of sync with the arc, in which case all I needed to do is unplug them and re-plug them back in to reset. That’s only happened like twice so I wouldn’t worry about this if you’re considering 👍🏾
@@TeamBehrens are you using the Symfonisk lamps as well?
i was considering getting symfonisk but i kept hearing one thing, they didn't sound as well as ones and can hold up against not needing to upgrade to fives. it gave me the impression of entry level "lets try surround setup in my home and i'll upgrade later" path, whereas the ones felt like the budget friendly way cause not having the want or need to upgrade to fives.
but idk those wall panel/paintings of ikea symfonisk that just came out look so tempting...
I just learned that my surrounds should be oriented in a straight forward position. I currently have them directed to the prime listening position in my rather large living room. Many thanks for the tech advise!!
This video is wrong and goes against Dolby's recommended ideal setup. At the end of the day, a full Sonos setup is still just going to be 5.x.x. Surrounds should be pointed inwards towards the center of the couch, not forwards towards the TV.
Try both orientations for yourself with your own setup and see which sounds better.
@@memphus Thanks for the feedback. Keeping my surrounds pointed to the central listening position. Still waiting for the SONOS update to fix the response of my subs.
THANK YOU SO MUCH!! I just set up my new system (Arc, sub, two Era 100s for surround, plus two more Era 100s for music in other rooms) and I was so disappointed that the two Era 100 surround speakers were essentially useless for playing music. Sonos seems quite thoughtfully designed so I hoped there'd be away to change their volume for listening to music or automatically unpair them for music playback. Voila! You answered my question. :)
I'm using Beam + 2 Ones, with a wall behind a sofa. Dolby is recommending pointing surrounds towards the seating position, so I'm curious why did you decide to keep surrounds almost pointing straight ahead? Thanks!
Also curious about this!
Me too!
You should not point them straight ahead. that defeats the purpose!
Thanks for this fantastic video and channel! I went straight from here to your website to buy my first Sonos setup! Very excited!
Got the beam, sub and two sl. It's great. The only downside of my setup is that both sl are more positioned next to the couch then really behind me.
I can position the right one behind me but not sure if that's a good way to go??
What do you recommend?
1. Both beside the couch next to me
Or
2. Left beside the couch next to me and right beside the couch behind me.
Would appreciate your feedback.
Thank You for this!
Would love to hear your comments on adding the Sub!
Stay tuned for that :)
I also use the ikea lamps as rears so that it doesn’t look at there are two speakers sitting in the middle of the room.
I ended up going for the Ikea picture frame speakers for mine. While they’re not in the optimal position they do sound very good with a little tweaking in the Sonos app.
Nice video. I really liked the tips on offering the surround speakers and changing the App settings to optimise TV and music is useful. 👏
Just purchased Arc , sub and a pair of ONE. It was with pain in my heart to to say goodbye to my hi-end Dynaudio system. Optimising via this video (thx for that) might ease the pain and the wife is happy with no longer having all the thick cables running through the living room. Question: wouldn't it be best to have the surrounds about 2-3 meters diagonally behind the couch as you than have a more balanced experience from both surround speakers? That was my experience in cabled system.
Thanks for sharing. very clear and useful.
What a great video. Really helpful 👍🏻
Awesome thank you for the video 😊
Thank you for this video. I have the sub, Arc, and two ones in a 10x15 bedroom. All I have in there is a two seat couch, entertainment TV and a PS5. I would love to get that great sound of of my Sonos system.
Would anyone recommend the IKEA symfonisk picture frame speakers? Based on my layout they would be mounted on opposing walls on either side of my sofa. That would be an alternative to a pair of 1SL’s…the frame option would be cheaper than the speaker + stand option…saving about AUD200. I have an Arc and sub Gen3 already which I’m looking to get surrounds for.
After adding a pair of one SLs my Beam2 and Sub3 pc games really came to life in 5:1 DD 😁
I got the arc, 2 one's sl on brackets, and my prised possession the glorious sonos sub. You'll think your set up is great until you get the sub, then it sounds amazing, expensive yes, but very much needed. Do some overtime and treat yourselves. Trust me
Great video. Loved your style.
Unfortunately the Sonos Beam and Arc only have one ARC connection, which of course is eARC to enable full Atmos audio signal from the TV to Sonos, as long as your TV is new enough to have eARC.
If not, and you do not want to buy a new TV, you'd have to buy an Apple TV. But as the Sonos only has one ARC connection you can't feed the Apple TV to the Sonos and the feed the video signal from the Sonos to your old TV. (The reverse path.)
You have to also buy a Fury splitter to go from the Apple TV to feed the video signal to your TV and the full Atmos audio signal to the Sonos.
And so if I wanted just one extra feature on the Sonos Arc it would be to have 2 eARC connections to enable pass through.
If I am incorrect on any of the above, please correct me!
As far as I know, ARC and eARC output sound on different pins on the HDMI cable & splitters cannot convert HDMI eARC, so using a splitter like that won't work you won't get any sound.
As for HDMI 2.1/eARC and Atmos, if your TV only has HDMI 2.0/Arc then yeah you wont be able to get 'Full Uncompressed Atmos' BUT... couple things, just wanna say Sonos Arc/Sub etc are very expensive, don't have Bluetooth etc so obviously if you want to latest greatest home theatre audio with Atmos support well firstly you're going to need a TV to match (like putting Expensive Rims on sh#t car), Sonos Arc soundbar+sub is the most expensive offering out there but there are other great surround sound of you're on HDMI 2.0/ARC, using DD+ (Dolby Digital Plus) & support 7.1 with higher quality audio than regular DD (Dolby Digital)
THEN AGAIN! eARC is backwards compatible with ARC... Yes it will be lossy compression to DD+, WHICH BY THE WAY is designed to sound as close to the source material as possible and youll hardly be able tell difference. SO if you wanted to grab one of the Sonos Atmos enabled bars now which will still work lovely even if you only have HDMi 2.0b/ARC TV and you'll be good for the future when you eventually get a new TV as well 😊
Great video!! Very helpful. Thank you!
Wow awesome video!! I‘ve learned so much about sound in just a few minutes. I bought the sonos stands and now I have a great setup. I just need the sonos mini sub, then it‘s perfect. The best things was the settings part. I was wondering for a year on how I can listen to „full“ music.
Great to hear and thanks for the comment.
Thanks for the video. Really informative and well produced 👍🏻
Great video!! Thank you! I’m also considering whether to add surrounds or a sub to my Sonos arc. A video on this would be great! Thanks once again
Great video as always!
Well, I was going to go with the ceiling speakers but now I may just do the One SL set up. Was hoping to avoid having speakers on a stand in the room. But having speakers at listening height makes sense...
Great informative video as always. I would like to see a setup using all the Ikea products with recommendations 😎. Possible using a beam to support the purchase of another system w/IKEA
Just replaced 2 SLs on either side of the living room couch with 2 new model SYMFONISK lamps. Love the look and the reduced space requirement! If you read this comment, any thoughts/tips with using those as surrounds? Does the sound emanate more circular rather than unidirectional?
The Symfonisk are a great option for surrounds too but they are still front-facing speakers so the same advice would apply for the Symfonisk's too :)
love your content as always..keep it up!
Thanks 👍
Excellent video friend. Can you do the configuration for the beam 2 gen, subwoofer 3gen and surround speakers, please?
I have an odd shaped room. Imagine a rectangular shaped open room concept (family room). The TV is above a fireplace at the top right corner. I have kept a Sonos arc below the TV on the fireplace mantle.
There are two sofas and one recliner. One sofa is against the wall on the bottom edge, while other sofa is on the top edge and open from behind. The best viewing angle is either from the recliner which is placed between the two sofas and facing the TV or from the bottom edge sofa.
I would like to understand where to place two surround speakers in this instance. I don’t have enough space behind or next to the sofa. I was thinking of mounting the speakers 8 feet above on the bottom edge wall. Thoughts?
Good suggestions ...but I hate the system when you want to add a sub...& it tells you it can't find the device......😮
Ikea symsonisk series can also be used as surround
Need advice… I just added the Sonos amp to my system, previously I had my Sonos arc sound-bar HDMI into LG 77 C2 arc TV port, after adding the amp, the arc port on the back of the amp can I run the arc cable from the amp to the arc sound bar bypassing the TV?…. when I put an HDMI cable from the amp arc port to the TV arc port …I had echo sounding speakers over each other…. they’re not synced….any thoughts …the amp is driving ….two external Polk audio in ceiling speakers… when I added the amp I set it up as stereo, I can control the in ceiling speakers with the app…. So I’m most concerned about is whether or not I should keep the arc sound bar connected to the TV arc or connect the amp arc port straight to the sound bar bypassing the TV, that’s what I would like to know, any thoughts?
Maximum How many sonos speaker Can we connect in a one group through wireless and play a same music in all groups speaker Thnq
I have 18 Sonos speakers and had them all on for whole house audio (1 Arc, 3 Beams, 4 Gen 3 Subs, 4 Symfonisk bookshelf, 2 Fives, 2 One SLs, 2 Beams). I think the max is 32 Sonos speakers at once.
Great video.
3:06 if I’m not mistaken mics/voice assistances are disabled in a home theater setup for surrounds
Once I set up my surround there is NO sound out of my back era 100s, any advice? I reset all speakers and re paired. I hear nothing.
Play 1’s as surrounds for a beam gen 2 ?
Absolutely love your videos. Unfortunately I use them purely for advice as I'm not based in the UK so I can't make use of any of your other services. Personally, I got the ARC first then the sub as I'm bass hungry. MASSIVE improvement to my audio experience. I was toying with the idea of a second sub next however I think it may be more feasible getting the One SL's as my rears first. In terms of positioning, my couch is against the wall so they'll have to be wall mounted. I presume I'll need to angle them a bit towards the listener as well in this case?
That’s for the positive feedback and yes I would go with the SL’s. Slightly angle them in and make sure you run trueplay. Hope this helps.
Great Video, but can you talk about the EQ in a Surround System? That would be awesome. (Beam 1, 2 One SL)
Great review!
Should you angle your surrounds inwards if they are about 6 feet away from the sofa? Setup doesn’t allow them to be closer
Great question. I have read conflicting answers to that question. Some say angle towards prime listening position; others to position facing front wall.
Very informative for indoors. What setup would you suggest for outdoors? Wireless headphones being an option too.
What happens to the physical volume slider on the Rear speakers when in a surround setup? Does it just get disabled? Or does each speaker adjust every speaker’s volume at the same time? Thinking of doing Era 300’s as rear speakers
This video helped SO much. Could you please share the name of those 1M speaker stands? Thank you! Great content and great show room.
Hi there, the stands we have up against the wall are the Flexson ones. The stands we have behind the sofa are Sonos' own ones. Hope that helps and thank you for your kind words.
Great video! How do you set up front channel LR with One SL's and an arc sound bar?
This is not do-able sadly, the Ones/One SLs can only be used as rears in a home cinema setup
Hi there. I have a playbar and was thinking about buying extra Sonos speakers for surround. What would you recommend. Thank you
For surround Sonos sl one 1 speaker enough or pair with Sonos arc soundbar
Great review.
My dialog is weak from central channel. Please suggest a video link to correct it. I am not a tech savy person. I shall follow the steps.
It will be great if you can do an update to this video!
I have a question for you. I have a bit of an older Sonos system. I’ve got the Sonos subwoofer, playbar, and two Play Ones first generation. It works fantastic for my purpose. I have recently acquired two more Play Ones, first generation. Where would you put those? Would you use those as sides, or front left and right?
I have the Beam 2 and 2 x Era 100s. Ideally I would mount them on the walls 7 foot behind the couch. Do you regcon this is too far?
I don't understand why Sonos don't let 2 speakers to act as front left and right with soundbar as centre. That will dramatically improve your sound as oppose to soundbar taking duties of left/right stereo and also when you want to listen to music you can have great stereo speakers instead of listening to the soundbar.
Maybe my setup is bad but I have an arc and two play ones front left and right because I can’t put them in the rear. I did the true tuning and my assumption was since they’re just called surrounds that didn’t require them to be in the baxk
I do have plenty of room in my room to position my stand mounted surrounds as I choose. I keep hearing different recommendations for best positioning. I currently have my rears angled towards the prime listening position as some have recommended. Your positioning would be with no angle; straight forward pointing to the front. Please comment. Ty
It would be nice if you could have play 1s or 5s in the front for full surround sound
So if using trueplay. After setting that up. Does adding bass and treble mess up the true play? Or does that add to the trueplay setup?
Do you have information on rhe SLs vs Era 100s for surrounds please?
I wish you could use the roams as surrounds as well
GOOD JOB
Help me lol I have a sofa but it's flush to the wall but on one side I have a radiator and on the over side I have a corner bit leads on to the back door how would I position my One SL speakers?
I have a Sonos 1 also a beam gen 1 how do I connect the beam to the one please
Is it possible to connect the sonos era 100 pair as rear surround sound from the yamaha 1080A receiver
Wish Sonos would allow us to set up front surround speakers
I currently have 2 Ikea symfonisk speakers in my living room! Also i would like to connect to them trought bluetooth! What would be the best way to get that sorted out? Does sonos have a device that can do this?
Thank you for the great video. I just got my Beam gen 2 yesterday and eagerly set up my surround. It was nice but the sound coming from the rear speakers (2 Sonos One) is less than what I expected. I almost couldn't tell if the. rear speakers are working unless I listen very closely to the rear speakers. Is that what surround sound should be? I'll change the Surround Music Playback to full as you recommended and see if it makes the different. Anyway, the Beam gen 2 is more powerful than I expected, works great!
Whenever theres something from the left rear, i hear the same amount of volume from the right rear. This kills the idea of surround. How do i fix this?
It depends on the audio source being encoded to give you separate rear surrounds, upward Atmos, or side audio. Having an eArc TV or listening to Atmos audio will get you closer than Stereo or Dolby 5.1 audio.
Do you not want to rear speakers perpendicular to the tv in the apartment setup because the front speakers and rears will clash with each other due to the wall behind the sofa? It looks like if there's space behind the sofa in the first setup, the rears are setup facing the tv aka perpendicular to the tv.
Help! It’s the voice part I need nearer to my ears. So with these additional speakers, can I adjust the voice to be louder so I can hear what’s being said?! Much appreciated!
I have a room where my Sofas form a L shape and they face the corner of my living room where my tv is located.
My plan was to have 3 sonos 1 speakers to place as surround speakers to fill the space is that possible?
My thinking is one sonos Either end of the L and in the corner of the hell another speaker speaker
Will i get much differences with with era 100s over one sl with my geam gen 2 and sub?
Great video! Is there a way to add a third party sub to my Sonos ecosystem??
The only way would be to use the Sub Out on the Sonos Amp but I would strongly advise against doing this as it won't give you the official 0.1 in the 5.1 set up due to the way the Amp will be configured. If you would like to use a Sub with the Sonos system, really the best way of doing it is via the Sonos Sub and you also don't need to run an additional cable. Hope this helps!
I don't need surround sound speakers. By using my 2 front speakers with crosstalk cancellation, i can achieve a true 3 dimensional soundstage whereby the room and the speakers "disappear."
Excellent informative video,
I have a question, I have a sonos beam and 2 sonos 5, the sonos 5 are connected also to a turn table, what is the best way to keep the surround effect from the beam and also listen music from the turn table without unable the souround effect??
Great video especially when the reference is to the Fives for rears. The key is ambient sound for TV and depending on seating position , well too loud for music. For me that is overkill and my Fives despite being in the same room are much better for music. Hey if I wanted I could group it all anyways...LOL. I almost agreed with the SL except for the following. I did buy the Ones and not SL version figuring Sonos would eventually catch up to other developers who have speakers in the rear that point up and across. This maybe a very real thing coming soon for Sonos. Now I can take my Ones and use the voice in the other room. This for me was a better decision since the cost difference really is marginal. Other than that I would have just bought the 1's (and not the Ones) from a while ago since they would have been less than half the cost and have the same sound benefits.
if you mount the Ones to the wall, which height? he just said „don‘t forget to tilt them down“
Im not sure if theyre still replying, but ive got 4 sono one sl, beam and mini sub. Ive been fortunate on the fb market place. My question would be where should i put the two non rear one sl for best experience.
Did it require a special stand to tilt it? I have my sofa against a wall and would need to tilt as advised in the video
If I buy 4 era 100s and connect them to my arc+sub will I be able to use the entire system as a 5.1 surround? Arc being center channel
2 era front left and right
2 era rear left and right
Or they can only manage being rear speakers?