We spent: $45 in gas $19 in electric car charging $5 to park so we could use the electric car charger $80 in food / snacks / activities / coffee / energy drinks while charging or trying to stay alive Total - $149
Mike Scott well they have to put the chargers somewhere. Parking lot makes sense. But they can't really make it free parking if your charging. Because that would be difficult to enforce. I guess.
+Mike Scott technically it's $2.50 but we had 2 cars and only 1 needed to be charged. But the other would have to street park and pay for that. But yes, a bit annoying
TheStraightPipes.......things to do while charging........filming 5 to 10 videos like one about the m3 and one on the 530e and so on...........perfect for people doing youtube
You guys should do more "Top Gear" videos like these...I've binged like all of your videos and I think this was one of the most interesting to watch. Great job guys!
This is my favorite video by you guys yet! I was laughing out loud to the karaoke track during your Big Apple adventure. Also, I always admire your editing. What makes your channel special is the back and forth between you two, and even though you were in two vehicles, the edit made it feel like you were together. Great job.
In norway its more easy. Lever 3 charger at everything 50 km almost. :) and its 2 to 6 charger at every stop. Free ferry, no toll and can drive in bus lane with ev :)
@@TheStraightPipes We are losing those incentives-first we lost free ferries and free parking, then we'll lose bus lanes and free toll. But we always knew that those incentives were time limited.
I drove from Toronto to Montreal along 401 several years ago and the OnRoutes were my favorite part of that trip. I appreciated how clean the restrooms were because American rest stops are gross.
That's the great things about the OnRoutes, man. I stop at Trenton and Mallorytown all the time when traveling to Toronto and coming back home to Ottawa.
For those Tesla destination chargers, the company I work for sells an adapter (called the jdapter stub) so that you can charge any EV with the Tesla Plug!
We also sell a wide variety of other EV charging equipment, including DC fast charging kits for cars that did not originally come with level 3 charging capability!
This is probably one of my favorite videos. You should redo the road trip, maybe in the two ioniq's or something else, but do it again to see how Canadian charging infrastructure has improved and see if it's any easier to get from Toronto to Ontario and Back!
+LunchTime haha sweet, glad people enjoyed the longer video as we were worried people would tune out. All those activities were free! We paid for all the shirts and food and stuff though. We spent about $50 at the Big Apple alone, everything was just so good
Hello from India :) I just wanted to drop a line thanking you for such an entertaining and, more important, positive video. I've seen so many negative videos about road trips in electric cars that the whole experience has become a bit toxic for me. The people in those videos faced the same problems you did: range anxiety, difficulty in finding charging stations, long wait times during charging, etc., but not only did you take it all in stride, you also pointed out how much better electric cars are to drive. Those of us who follow EV news know that modern electric cars are far ahead of their ICE counterparts; it's only the charging infrastructure that needs to catch up, and it will. Meanwhile, we need more positive videos like these to educate people about the possibilities and limitations of electric cars in a balanced, educative, and entertaining manner. Thanks for putting in the effort!
Oh, by the way, I laughed quite a bit at the fact that you guys changed into Big Apple t-shirts while you were at Big Apple and then changed back into your original clothes and didn't even comment on any of this. Funniest part of the video IMO!
+Abhi U haha sweet. Yeah we bought the shirts and kept them. I wore it under my shirt at night because I was cold. I didn't bring a sweater because I under estimated the time the trip would take and the weather forecast lied to us
I really think full electric is the future, no doubt about it, but for the next 5 to 8 years (maybe less) I don't think full electric is still viable for long trips, having to spend hours waiting for the car to charge is really not worth it specially when a hybrid get so good mileage range and gas prices are low, at least for now. Driving a 2007 prius and I really love it, thinking on getting the ioniq HYBRID in a few years.
Keep in mind they filmed this in 2017. Now that we're in 2019, there are a ton of cars (including a new one from Hyundai) that do well over 200 miles. Kona EV is 260 miles for a similar price to the ioniq.
@@Isaac-un4cn the Ioniq starts at $21,000. It is significantly cheaper than the rest of it's competition. And it is honestly a really good purchase if you want to drive it for the next 5-7 years while electric cars drop in price even more.
If your country has an extensive rapid charging network it's not a problem.... the most remote point on the map from a rapid in Ireland is 25km and we have a single network with 1400 22kW level 2 stations in addition to the rapids. I've done 4000km road trips to Germany from Ireland with no issues. The next generation of rapids being rolled out this summer across europe are 350-400kW... if the car can take the power they can deliver 300-400km of range in about 10-15 minutes. The Ioniq sells in a 3:1 ratio in favor of the EV here. We're having supply problems... new orders are getting delivery dates in December.
Don't hold your breath for the 350kW cars, with the exception of the Porsche Mission E (and it's forthcoming Bentley cousin), nothing on the path to production we know of yet can take that amount of power. Most of the next tranche of cars due out are in the 100-170kW area. But still.. the infrastructure will be ready (Tesla will be able to use it due to their use in europe of our standard Type 2 connector for the superchargers here.... and *cough* they just happened to join the CharIN trade group behind the CCS standard last year). The Ioniq is getting an update Q1 of next year with a 40kWh class battery but it won't charge much faster than the current model ( which can charge at 70kW... although that was a 50kW you hooked it to ). The Kia Niro is due to get that battery for a BEV version and an unnamed Hyundai crossover is due around the same time.
+cros13 yes we charged at a 50kW level 3 and the car was able to take in about 45kW. The owner of Solacity said that was the highest he'd seen other than a Tesla.
I bet people will lament the having to wait 3 hours to charge your car sometime in the future as the good ol' days when roadtrips had stops and exploring.
I think it's fun to drive through the night when there are practically no other cars on the road. Stops at gas stations and restaurants for coffee are somehow so much more enjoyable. It's like you're witnessing a completely different world as opposed to the daylight hours.
Really enjoyed the video :) I also really had fun driving the Ioniq Electric, so much torque, but the car is so silent you don't really feel you're going so fast. Just wish the Ioniq Electric would get some larger batteries to jump up to 350+ km, like the Chevy Bolt EV, otherwise it seems to be a nice car.
It seems to me that you prepared this "range anxiety" part on purpose, knowing that you could easily make those 218 km just by dropping your speed from 100 to 80 km/h. Some guy in Germany came very close to 300 km with an Ioniq EV, just by cruising at around 60 km/h or even less, search for "Ioniq electric 295" on TH-cam . But for me, personally, I would rather arrive 20 minutes later than drive below 5% charge. This is the "red light" on a gasoline car. Air resistance rises with the square of speed, so, if you have a problem with range, lower your speed. Watch some video or do your math to see how much you need. But I agree, you video was fun.
+Richard Petek if you think we did anything with a purpose or plan, you grossly overestimate us. So thanks I guess? Nothing was planned other than during charging stops. We followed speed limits. The whole purpose of this was to do it unplanned like a regular road trip. You're completely missing the point
That was a lot of fun watching you guys challenging the range. So what max range did you get on Ioniq? In our Volt in Summer we always get more EV millage than 85 km stated. Easily getting about 90-100 even with climate on.
My second time watching this. And i just got a 2019 made Ioniq hybrid. Thanks for you video earlier. Gives me lot confident on the range of the ioniq. It is a great car.
It doesn't look like there is a problem with the electric car, the problem is Canada. A few more charging stations and there will be no problem. Best regards from Cairo Egypt and I hope that we get to have charging stations like Canada one day.
25:00 the car did 900km , our fully loaded bmw diesel averaged 3,9l/100 plus a speed run in the autobahn . Diesels are for traveling , petrol for everything, and hybrid is realistically mostly for city traffic
ICE cars always underestimate range. On some Toyotas the low fuel light comes on when there is 4+ gallons of gas left. Range shows 0 when theres 2 gallons left in the tank. Shamelessly, I have driven 50+ miles on "empty" before stopping to fill up! 😁
+atiprocharger good question, wish I could answer it. I seem to recall it being around 80-85ish km/hr. We pretty much set the cruise to 100km/hr for the majority of the trip
Great test guys, 4.3 average consumption is more than good. What speeds were you at on the highway? Re the comfort I found then hybrid a bit loud (thin sound insulation?) and the seat was a bit short for my legs. But for that money, how much more could you ask for.
+BokiXI we set the adaptive cruise to 100km/hr. It wasn't all flat and we ventured off the highway a few times. As well as getting stuck in Ottawa traffic
Great video. Loved the energy and the obvious connection between the two of you. I currently have a 13 year old Prius and I'm thinking of biting the bullet and going with the Ioniq EV. I've never leased a car before, but their Unlimited+ lease plan seems pretty sweet. New subscriber. Keep up the great videos.
Great video! Any non-Tesla EV is great, but Tesla is just in another world. The Tesla Model S85 is able to drive from eastern GTA to Kingston easily on a single charge, we've done that trip numerous times in our Tesla. The Tesla chargers on the road are directly connected into the navigation system, and we've done 1200 km road trips with no significant planning required.
What a fantastic, fun-filled trip testing the Electric versus the Hybrid. Exactly 1 month to the day, I bade goodbye to my beloved Black Elantra and drove out with a white Ioniq Hybrid. And I want to duplicate your Ottawa trip on my new ride. Thank you Jacob and Yuri.🤗😘
Took 12 hours to get there. And that's why I'd want the hybrid. I'd get 59 mpg, the best on the market, and not have to worry about charging. It would also take less than half the time.
I enjoyed your video guys. Great cars there. Definitely Hyundai should take notice on increasing the range of the ioniq electric. 238 miles like a Chevy bolt sounds like a great beginning. And more level 3 charging stations will make EVs more appealing and marketable.
This might be my favorite video of yours that I have seen so far. It's fantastic that you turned the range shortcomings of the EV into fun charging station experiences. I was looking at getting a 2020 Ioniq Hybrid, but couldn't stand driving it, nor did I enjoy the lack of vision out the back. I find it interesting you guys didn't comment on the driving any more.
I just got this type of vehicle but I don't believe it is charging stations The sales person didn't advise me He just told me it charges while I am driving the vehicle It is hybrid vehicle It is 2019 Hyundai Ioniq Hybrid limited I love the safety functions on this vehicle . Plus it is computerized seating positions .I feel I blessed .I will find out if I need to charge this vehicle from time to time.
I really like your longer videos, and the transitions feel like you are both in the same car. awesome work !!!!! oh , and i love the way you engage with your subs!!!! ❤❤
+Mario Djameh thanks we're planning on doing a lot of different things, not just car reviews. So some of the videos will be longer. We'll be doing some yuri vs Jakub challenges and stuff like that
Solid video. Many EV users dismiss range anxiety as a non-issue but it is hard to agree with them. Yakub and Yuri just proved how vulnerable one can be with EV that do not have range more than 350km.
The heated seats and the steering wheel come from the 12 volt system guys so doesn't effect range. Also the heating system is very efficient and uses excess heat from the battery :)
Heated seats use a tiny amount of power. All the seats and wheel on uses less than 10% of what the cabin heating/AC Heat pump uses.... as efficient as that is.... the seat heaters use between 20 and 50 watts.... the main drive motor peak output is EIGHTY EIGHT THOUSAND watts. Even pootling along at 100km/h with no headwind on a flat road uses 12000 - 14000W.
Great review guys! An Ottawan here born in Toronto. I just bought a Hybrid that I take delivery of on Tuesday. I really like the Electric, but I just don't feel there's enough infrastructure yet. Maybe once I pay this one off, I'll trade in for an EV and by then infrastructure should be better.
Subscribed, great job guys! I'm an ev enthusiast and will get one someday. Starting off with a prius for now and loving it. This was a awesome journey. Props on driving that long. Your genuine reactions are great haha especially Jakub's fear face.
i love you guys! first video I watched is the android auto vs Apple car play and now I've subscribed your channel! please dont let us down and come up with really nice content!
The owners of the Big Apple place were very smart to put a charging station there - think of all the people who need to charge and have nowhere else to go that are now stopping and spending money there. Talk about a good investment!
Found your video looking up reviews for the Ioniq and really enjoyed it, you guys are great! I was curious if you've repeated a similar trip in the years since and if so, how it went? The level 3 charger network seems a lot more flushed out in the towns on the way, but it seems really bizarre there's still no infrastructure in the OnRoute stops (from what I can see).
Been binge-watching your content a lot lately and this is one of my favorites! I appreciate your sleep-deprived suffering for our entertainment. Hope to see more BEV/HEV challenges in the future!
I just got a new level of respect for BMW... I usually assume BMW ~= douche driver, but at least the dealerships are really nice... I wonder where the drivers get the attitude?... And I'm not alone thinking this: www.carthrottle.com/post/a-massive-41-of-us-think-that-bmw-drivers-are-the-biggest-jerks/
Great video guys! Just watched this not too long ago. Would be interesting to see this test redone in 2020 or when you can drive cars again to see if the experience has improved.
hi from Ottawa. go sens go. I recently rented a new Elantra (Zipcar). I found the seats to be very painful for my back. hopefully this one has better seats. I heard next year the ionic will have a bigger battery.
I recently test drove both the Ioniq Hybrid Limited and Elantra Limited on the same day. I have to say, I found the driver's seat in the Ioniq much more comfortable than in the Elantra.
TheStraightPipes yes,it was the base model from Zipcar I rented. and in the past,I rented the Sonata,it also had bad seats. when the ioniq gets a longer range,I will test drive it to check the seats out.
Oh my God, how much fun! You guys are the best! You shoulf add more challenge episodes to your channel. This was so good! Not get me wrong, I love your cars review, but this was another layer!
I have a 2018 Hybrid Limited and I average 53mpg and have 82,000miles in 2 years. Only time mpg suffers is in the cold. In the winter in Missouri I average 40mpg.
This is awesome! You guys should definitely do more of these adventure videos. We have a house in London (Ontario) and one in Mississauga, so i drive that route very frequently, maybe about once a week or every 2 weeks, but I never get to explore the rest of Ontario, and it's a gorgeous place honestly. This video makes me miss the times I used to go to Grand Bend and Port Stanley randomly in the off season at the beginning of Spring/Fall, similar to the time of season you filmed this, and it's so gorgeous. Very few people, and the weather is beautiful and overcast (my favourite). Sorry to ramble, but I just wanted to say I love this video. Brings back some good memories :) Definitely do more Ontario adventures in the future!
Define "the best". It is hard to say, there are so many options out there and different design philosophies. That said, I think it is a great car (and will be better next year with the more powerful battery). I just recently bought a Honda Clarity, and honestly, if the Ioniq PHEV was more available in the U.S. it probably would have been the way I went. The 29mi all electric range is decent, and enough for 80% of the driving I do. Cars like the Volt and my Clarity that from a practical perspective are more electric cars with a range extender (50ish mile range) do so by having a large and heavy battery, which drops the gas MPG when running as a hybrid, putting them in the upper 30's and lower 40's mpg range. The Prius Prime and the Ioniq, with their smaller and lighter batteries, get nearly the same mileage (within a couple MPG) of the regular hybrids. Add to that a price difference (in the U.S.) of only $2500 between the Ioniq hybrid and Ioniq PHEV, and a $4900 federal tax rebate plus state incentives, and you can be paying significantly less on the PHEV Ioniq than the hybrid Ioniq (really, you can be at Elantra prices with the base Ioniq PHEV when you account for the tax incentives). Still, the Bolt with 230 miles is better than the 120ish of the Ioniq EV if range is important, the BMW i3 is interesting with all the modern materials (and available range extender which truly is just a range extender v. the engine in the Clarity and Volt), the Clarity and Volt are better if you want extensive electric driving but want the ability to go on long trips without any range anxiety (especially in the U.S. where large parts of it have very poor electric car charging infrastructure), etc. They all have great advantages (and some disadvantages), and "the best" overall is a rather tough call since it depends so much on your individual use of the car and really you can only find the best for a particular person's need.
you guys are funny but silly though. it took me three minutes to find DC chargers along the way. i would have been able to go Toronto Ottowa in 6h40 min including charging and today's traffic... I used the app "plug share" and Google maps
There is one fast charger in Smith falls and another one in Peterborough. 210km, easy to do if not traveling faster than 80km/h, since you averaged 12,6kwh/100km you would have been able to go 210km on one charge.
Filip Bjurling so the rating was 208 km after a half our fast charge(to get to 95%) and a 25 minute level 2 charge (to get to 100%). Did you factor that into your times. Also would you try to push past your battery rated limit on the first try? We averaged 100 while on the highway however the bit of city driving brought our total average down to 80.
I test drove the ioniq electric back in January here in Sweden and managed to get well below 10kwh/100km twice, once when driving behind a truck and once when chilling at 70km/h. and this was when is was almost freezing temperatures outside and I had heating on.
Its VERY VERY ready for daily driving, maybe not AS ready for long distance road tripping. When we used it during the week neither of us had any issues with range or charging.
+Denracer Yeah if you regularly travel long distances the hybrid or plug in hybrid would be the best options. Otherwise the EV is ready for daily commuting duties. Would be the ideal 2nd car
Hey, does anyone ever heard about fast DC charging? The Ioniq is equipped with 100 kw DC charger and the battery has 24kwh usable capacity... Do the math. @TheStraightPipes used two slow AC charging points... So the Ioniq is ready for everyday use, no matter the distance.
I dont drive a hybrid (I drive a 2016 Tucson 1.6T) and I've learned a few things... coast off hills with no gas and use cruise control on normal roads (not just highway).
Electric vehicles aren't yet equipped for travel from one metro to another. They are only intended for driving around town, which obviously you guys found out in the video. Great stuff love the videos! Please please please do the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV.
I owned a Sonata Hybrid for a year and half and I remember getting that warning to fill the tank to prevent damaging the battery. For me going full electric with that little range would not suffice. Gotta go hybrid.
Because I don't have cable anymore, I only have antenna so I don't get to watch My Favorite TV Show TopGearUk. This reminded me so much of the Car, Bike, Boat, & Train Race Challenge. Haha. This made my night! ✌
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We spent:
$45 in gas
$19 in electric car charging
$5 to park so we could use the electric car charger
$80 in food / snacks / activities / coffee / energy drinks while charging or trying to stay alive
Total - $149
TheStraightPipes Canadian dollars
Spending 12 hours to get to Ottawa: Priceless
+koiminx hahahha
Mike Scott well they have to put the chargers somewhere. Parking lot makes sense. But they can't really make it free parking if your charging. Because that would be difficult to enforce. I guess.
+Mike Scott technically it's $2.50 but we had 2 cars and only 1 needed to be charged. But the other would have to street park and pay for that. But yes, a bit annoying
Loved how BMW Kingston let you borrow a 530e and an M3!
+NootNoot! So did we. They were awesome. Met so many nice people while charging
TheStraightPipes.......things to do while charging........filming 5 to 10 videos like one about the m3 and one on the 530e and so on...........perfect for people doing youtube
+pumpuppthevolume haha yep
Heck yeah I mean if they get free views from the video so it's smart on both parts.
Came back from the 1mill subscriber video to check if I commented and damn I'm surprised this was 3yrs ago
Really enjoyed this video guys, very entertaining. Kingston BMW and "The Big Apple" rock!
+ringmaster146 thanks! Haha yeah we'd love to go back
+Mike Scott rule #1 of our videos: have fun, don't be boring. Rule #2: see rule #1
TheStraightPipes you forgot rule 3. No rules
+Yuri Tereshyn true
These two are better than Top Gear and The Grand Tour combined.
You guys should do more "Top Gear" videos like these...I've binged like all of your videos and I think this was one of the most interesting to watch. Great job guys!
The BMW situation was pretty incredibly fun :D
+Jirka Šraier we agree
So great of BMW Kingston to be so accommodating! Kudos to them
420 likes?
NICE
The guy at BMW Kingston was smart. He knew who you were and knew how to treat you.
Lol nobody knew us then
@@TheStraightPipes I don't think you give yourself enough credit.
This is my favorite video by you guys yet! I was laughing out loud to the karaoke track during your Big Apple adventure. Also, I always admire your editing. What makes your channel special is the back and forth between you two, and even though you were in two vehicles, the edit made it feel like you were together. Great job.
+James Dobson that's awesome, thanks a lot for the feedback! Glad the soundtrack was noticed too
James Dobson we were literally on a call for the whole time ahaha
In norway its more easy. Lever 3 charger at everything 50 km almost. :) and its 2 to 6 charger at every stop. Free ferry, no toll and can drive in bus lane with ev :)
+alexo1989 that's amazing
All countries should benchmark what you guys are doing in Norway. Pretty nice to have a lot of benefits for owning hybrids/EV's.
Smart country. Take your oil money to invest in a fossil-fuel free future...wish my country were that smart D:
@@TheStraightPipes We are losing those incentives-first we lost free ferries and free parking, then we'll lose bus lanes and free toll. But we always knew that those incentives were time limited.
Norway is petite compared to us or canada. No wonder
I drove from Toronto to Montreal along 401 several years ago and the OnRoutes were my favorite part of that trip. I appreciated how clean the restrooms were because American rest stops are gross.
That's the great things about the OnRoutes, man. I stop at Trenton and Mallorytown all the time when traveling to Toronto and coming back home to Ottawa.
For those Tesla destination chargers, the company I work for sells an adapter (called the jdapter stub) so that you can charge any EV with the Tesla Plug!
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This is probably one of my favorite videos. You should redo the road trip, maybe in the two ioniq's or something else, but do it again to see how Canadian charging infrastructure has improved and see if it's any easier to get from Toronto to Ontario and Back!
What's better than a 4-6min TheStraightPipes video? A 25min one! Loved the video guys, the Big Apple looked like a lot of fun haha.
+LunchTime haha sweet, glad people enjoyed the longer video as we were worried people would tune out. All those activities were free! We paid for all the shirts and food and stuff though. We spent about $50 at the Big Apple alone, everything was just so good
Hello from India :) I just wanted to drop a line thanking you for such an entertaining and, more important, positive video. I've seen so many negative videos about road trips in electric cars that the whole experience has become a bit toxic for me. The people in those videos faced the same problems you did: range anxiety, difficulty in finding charging stations, long wait times during charging, etc., but not only did you take it all in stride, you also pointed out how much better electric cars are to drive. Those of us who follow EV news know that modern electric cars are far ahead of their ICE counterparts; it's only the charging infrastructure that needs to catch up, and it will. Meanwhile, we need more positive videos like these to educate people about the possibilities and limitations of electric cars in a balanced, educative, and entertaining manner. Thanks for putting in the effort!
+Abhi U wow man thanks. If we were writing a book about our trip, your comment would be our testimonial
Haha! Sure thing! I'd be honoured.
Oh, by the way, I laughed quite a bit at the fact that you guys changed into Big Apple t-shirts while you were at Big Apple and then changed back into your original clothes and didn't even comment on any of this. Funniest part of the video IMO!
+Abhi U haha sweet. Yeah we bought the shirts and kept them. I wore it under my shirt at night because I was cold. I didn't bring a sweater because I under estimated the time the trip would take and the weather forecast lied to us
No matter which part of the world you're in, one thing you can count on is for weather forecasts to be wrong most of the time!
Jakub: 'I love Electric cars!' [Slams M3 into 2nd].... Love you guys!!!
I really think full electric is the future, no doubt about it, but for the next 5 to 8 years (maybe less) I don't think full electric is still viable for long trips, having to spend hours waiting for the car to charge is really not worth it specially when a hybrid get so good mileage range and gas prices are low, at least for now.
Driving a 2007 prius and I really love it, thinking on getting the ioniq HYBRID in a few years.
Keep in mind they filmed this in 2017. Now that we're in 2019, there are a ton of cars (including a new one from Hyundai) that do well over 200 miles. Kona EV is 260 miles for a similar price to the ioniq.
@@Isaac-un4cn the Ioniq starts at $21,000. It is significantly cheaper than the rest of it's competition. And it is honestly a really good purchase if you want to drive it for the next 5-7 years while electric cars drop in price even more.
So far absolute favorite vid! Thank you Yuri for the eastbound and down serenade!
I’ve been driving an Ioniq hybrid blue for a year and the mpg has ranged from 44 to 65.
Hybrid all day. Life is too short to be worrying about limited range.
+aag318504 Yeah I totally get that. The upcoming plug in hybrid Ioniq is kind of the best of both worlds too
If your country has an extensive rapid charging network it's not a problem.... the most remote point on the map from a rapid in Ireland is 25km and we have a single network with 1400 22kW level 2 stations in addition to the rapids. I've done 4000km road trips to Germany from Ireland with no issues. The next generation of rapids being rolled out this summer across europe are 350-400kW... if the car can take the power they can deliver 300-400km of range in about 10-15 minutes.
The Ioniq sells in a 3:1 ratio in favor of the EV here. We're having supply problems... new orders are getting delivery dates in December.
+cros13 wow that's awesome
Don't hold your breath for the 350kW cars, with the exception of the Porsche Mission E (and it's forthcoming Bentley cousin), nothing on the path to production we know of yet can take that amount of power. Most of the next tranche of cars due out are in the 100-170kW area. But still.. the infrastructure will be ready (Tesla will be able to use it due to their use in europe of our standard Type 2 connector for the superchargers here.... and *cough* they just happened to join the CharIN trade group behind the CCS standard last year). The Ioniq is getting an update Q1 of next year with a 40kWh class battery but it won't charge much faster than the current model ( which can charge at 70kW... although that was a 50kW you hooked it to ). The Kia Niro is due to get that battery for a BEV version and an unnamed Hyundai crossover is due around the same time.
+cros13 yes we charged at a 50kW level 3 and the car was able to take in about 45kW. The owner of Solacity said that was the highest he'd seen other than a Tesla.
I bet people will lament the having to wait 3 hours to charge your car sometime in the future as the good ol' days when roadtrips had stops and exploring.
not 3 hours to charge if you have a line of cars waiting for it.... that's the good thing of gas based cars, 3 minutes per car to fill the tank.
Yeah, but in the good 'ol days, WE got to choose where and when we took our time.
You can always just fill it up with gas and use the gas.
Fun fact, that train you had to stop for is also an electric hybrid.
How do you know it wasn't just a standard diesel locomotive?
@@TJ-kh2zc plot twist: he drove the train
Awesome exciting and educational video
I think it's fun to drive through the night when there are practically no other cars on the road. Stops at gas stations and restaurants for coffee are somehow so much more enjoyable. It's like you're witnessing a completely different world as opposed to the daylight hours.
I have a fabulous 2018 ioniq hybrid and its brilliant - it's my first car (got my licence at 40..), I'm Dippin my toe in the Future 🔮
I want to see you guys repeat this trip now that it has been a few years.
shoulda taken turns slipstreaming to save electricity/gas
This was amazing, I was hooked by the big apple, and then BWM made it absolutely perfect
You guys are awesome! Can't believe I only found about you guys just now!!!
+Deep Discount thanks! Share with all your buddies
ev for me. No worries about oil change. No worries for gas price hikes. Only con is range which should really be reserved for ICE.
yeah you can say f-off when you drive by the gas station !!!!!i like that !!
Really enjoyed the video :) I also really had fun driving the Ioniq Electric, so much torque, but the car is so silent you don't really feel you're going so fast.
Just wish the Ioniq Electric would get some larger batteries to jump up to 350+ km, like the Chevy Bolt EV, otherwise it seems to be a nice car.
+Chang Hyun Park yep fully agree
It seems to me that you prepared this "range anxiety" part on purpose, knowing that you could easily make those 218 km just by dropping your speed from 100 to 80 km/h. Some guy in Germany came very close to 300 km with an Ioniq EV, just by cruising at around 60 km/h or even less, search for "Ioniq electric 295" on TH-cam . But for me, personally, I would rather arrive 20 minutes later than drive below 5% charge. This is the "red light" on a gasoline car.
Air resistance rises with the square of speed, so, if you have a problem with range, lower your speed. Watch some video or do your math to see how much you need.
But I agree, you video was fun.
+Richard Petek if you think we did anything with a purpose or plan, you grossly overestimate us. So thanks I guess? Nothing was planned other than during charging stops. We followed speed limits. The whole purpose of this was to do it unplanned like a regular road trip. You're completely missing the point
IONIQ EV with close to the 350+ km should be on the street next year.. Hyundai allready confirmed.
Claes Eiken Jensen I also think the ioniq is a bit bigger. But I agree. It needs more range to compete with the established competitors
That was a lot of fun watching you guys challenging the range. So what max range did you get on Ioniq? In our Volt in Summer we always get more EV millage than 85 km stated. Easily getting about 90-100 even with climate on.
Finally someone that does decent videos of hyundai ev
My second time watching this. And i just got a 2019 made Ioniq hybrid. Thanks for you video earlier. Gives me lot confident on the range of the ioniq. It is a great car.
It doesn't look like there is a problem with the electric car, the problem is Canada. A few more charging stations and there will be no problem. Best regards from Cairo Egypt and I hope that we get to have charging stations like Canada one day.
+Alaa Sadek exactly. The infrastructure will come soon!
if you think Canada has a problem with charging stations, come down to Australia ! pretty non existent here !
25:00 the car did 900km , our fully loaded bmw diesel averaged 3,9l/100 plus a speed run in the autobahn . Diesels are for traveling , petrol for everything, and hybrid is realistically mostly for city traffic
ICE cars always underestimate range. On some Toyotas the low fuel light comes on when there is 4+ gallons of gas left. Range shows 0 when theres 2 gallons left in the tank. Shamelessly, I have driven 50+ miles on "empty" before stopping to fill up! 😁
My Honda holds 50 liters, and the fuel light comes on with 10 liters left. Not bad.
My Toyota has an 8.5 gallon tank and the light comes on when I have 3 gallons left😂
Awesome video. You should do an updated challenge to see how the charging infrastructure has improved over 3 years.
Great video guys...What was the average speed in both cars?
+atiprocharger good question, wish I could answer it. I seem to recall it being around 80-85ish km/hr. We pretty much set the cruise to 100km/hr for the majority of the trip
Great test guys, 4.3 average consumption is more than good. What speeds were you at on the highway? Re the comfort I found then hybrid a bit loud (thin sound insulation?) and the seat was a bit short for my legs. But for that money, how much more could you ask for.
+BokiXI we set the adaptive cruise to 100km/hr. It wasn't all flat and we ventured off the highway a few times. As well as getting stuck in Ottawa traffic
You guys picked up subscribers quick!
+Scott Novy hopefully it keeps going :)
good things happen to good people
Great video. Loved the energy and the obvious connection between the two of you. I currently have a 13 year old Prius and I'm thinking of biting the bullet and going with the Ioniq EV. I've never leased a car before, but their Unlimited+ lease plan seems pretty sweet.
New subscriber. Keep up the great videos.
+theexmann right on, thanks! Compared to a 13yr old prius, go for the Ioniq!
Your best video yet.
+STBSeb that's awesome, thanks
This is such a good episode. Reminds me of the best Top Gear type challenges. I love it. Make more. NOW. I want more free episodes.
loved it. the challenge was very top gear-esque! also props for being Canadian. Toronto's my hood!
+Kelvin Ng haha thanks!
Great video! Any non-Tesla EV is great, but Tesla is just in another world. The Tesla Model S85 is able to drive from eastern GTA to Kingston easily on a single charge, we've done that trip numerous times in our Tesla. The Tesla chargers on the road are directly connected into the navigation system, and we've done 1200 km road trips with no significant planning required.
+SmartElectricCar Yeah that's amazing. The Tesla infrastructure is miles ahead (literally)
So if u had to pick between the M3 and 530e, which would u buy? The obvious answer for me is M3,, but there is a part of me saying "get the 530e!"
+ashrafc M3 all day. I like power
What a fantastic, fun-filled trip testing the Electric versus the Hybrid.
Exactly 1 month to the day, I bade goodbye to my beloved Black Elantra and drove out with a white Ioniq Hybrid.
And I want to duplicate your Ottawa trip on my new ride.
Thank you Jacob and Yuri.🤗😘
That M3 was beautiful.
Awesome video guys. Very entertaining to watch!
+Jesse Carmichael Yeah all the carbon bits they added were so nice. Thanks!
Plus the fact it was white on red with a manual. Keep it up guys!
Our Ioniq blue hybrid has gotten 500-600miles per fillup & gas is down to $2.06 per gallon. Love it!!
Licking the window sill just added an additional 50% depreciation.
Took 12 hours to get there. And that's why I'd want the hybrid. I'd get 59 mpg, the best on the market, and not have to worry about charging. It would also take less than half the time.
"Ay we made it to Ottawa!"
"Alright wanna go home?"
lmao
Not my hometown 😭😭 well Ottawa is considered the city that forgot fun, so whatever
I enjoyed your video guys. Great cars there. Definitely Hyundai should take notice on increasing the range of the ioniq electric. 238 miles like a Chevy bolt sounds like a great beginning. And more level 3 charging stations will make EVs more appealing and marketable.
Thank you for this Video. Very good. Greatings from Germany.
+Stephan Meyer thank you! - sent from Canada
This might be my favorite video of yours that I have seen so far. It's fantastic that you turned the range shortcomings of the EV into fun charging station experiences. I was looking at getting a 2020 Ioniq Hybrid, but couldn't stand driving it, nor did I enjoy the lack of vision out the back. I find it interesting you guys didn't comment on the driving any more.
Finally - Must share
I just got this type of vehicle but I don't believe it is charging stations The sales person didn't advise me He just told me it charges while I am driving the vehicle It is hybrid vehicle It is 2019 Hyundai Ioniq Hybrid limited I love the safety functions on this vehicle . Plus it is computerized seating positions .I feel I blessed .I will find out if I need to charge this vehicle from time to time.
Really enjoyed this one!
+ZaedricYT sweeeet
I really like your longer videos, and the transitions feel like you are both in the same car. awesome work !!!!! oh , and i love the way you engage with your subs!!!! ❤❤
+Mario Djameh thanks we're planning on doing a lot of different things, not just car reviews. So some of the videos will be longer. We'll be doing some yuri vs Jakub challenges and stuff like that
awesome!!! can't wait for you next video!!!
+Mario Djameh :)
11:55 "I love electric cars" because you can drive a gas-powered M3 :D
Solid video. Many EV users dismiss range anxiety as a non-issue but it is hard to agree with them. Yakub and Yuri just proved how vulnerable one can be with EV that do not have range more than 350km.
The heated seats and the steering wheel come from the 12 volt system guys so doesn't effect range. Also the heating system is very efficient and uses excess heat from the battery :)
+IoniqEVDriver Yeah it doesn't have much effect on range it's great
Very entertaining film, well done guys :)
+IoniqEVDriver thanks!
What do you think where the power for the 12 volt system comes from? That's right, from a voltage converter from the high voltage battery.
Heated seats use a tiny amount of power. All the seats and wheel on uses less than 10% of what the cabin heating/AC Heat pump uses.... as efficient as that is.... the seat heaters use between 20 and 50 watts.... the main drive motor peak output is EIGHTY EIGHT THOUSAND watts. Even pootling along at 100km/h with no headwind on a flat road uses 12000 - 14000W.
Great review guys! An Ottawan here born in Toronto. I just bought a Hybrid that I take delivery of on Tuesday. I really like the Electric, but I just don't feel there's enough infrastructure yet. Maybe once I pay this one off, I'll trade in for an EV and by then infrastructure should be better.
+ds93films right on!
I liked this, good job guys DAMN I watched the whole thing good job I'm getting one
+Brandon Pollard Hahah sweet! Great cars for sure
Subscribed, great job guys! I'm an ev enthusiast and will get one someday. Starting off with a prius for now and loving it. This was a awesome journey. Props on driving that long. Your genuine reactions are great haha especially Jakub's fear face.
i love you guys! first video I watched is the android auto vs Apple car play and now I've subscribed your channel! please dont let us down and come up with really nice content!
+zaid yusri Yusoff we'll do our best not to suck
The owners of the Big Apple place were very smart to put a charging station there - think of all the people who need to charge and have nowhere else to go that are now stopping and spending money there. Talk about a good investment!
Haha you guys got gas at the end beside my house on Port Union lool great video guys, I enjoyed it alot 👍
+Shawn Waren haha right on!
Found your video looking up reviews for the Ioniq and really enjoyed it, you guys are great!
I was curious if you've repeated a similar trip in the years since and if so, how it went? The level 3 charger network seems a lot more flushed out in the towns on the way, but it seems really bizarre there's still no infrastructure in the OnRoute stops (from what I can see).
End of the road trip delusion is the absolute best!
Been binge-watching your content a lot lately and this is one of my favorites! I appreciate your sleep-deprived suffering for our entertainment. Hope to see more BEV/HEV challenges in the future!
Get ready for the fall! Hybrid electric season
Hyped!
I just got a new level of respect for BMW... I usually assume BMW ~= douche driver, but at least the dealerships are really nice... I wonder where the drivers get the attitude?... And I'm not alone thinking this: www.carthrottle.com/post/a-massive-41-of-us-think-that-bmw-drivers-are-the-biggest-jerks/
+Forest Monstre yeah Scott and Peter from bmw Kingston were amazing
I feel like everybody is just nice in Canada.
I missed these road trip reviews during the pandemic. I watched them reminiscing of simpler times.
Wow great cars, awesome vid!
Great video guys! Just watched this not too long ago. Would be interesting to see this test redone in 2020 or when you can drive cars again to see if the experience has improved.
hi from Ottawa. go sens go.
I recently rented a new Elantra (Zipcar). I found the seats to be very painful for my back. hopefully this one has better seats.
I heard next year the ionic will have a bigger battery.
+courtney Vegan hi from Toronto. Go Leafs! The elantra sport and these Ioniq's had very good seats
I recently test drove both the Ioniq Hybrid Limited and Elantra Limited on the same day. I have to say, I found the driver's seat in the Ioniq much more comfortable than in the Elantra.
ds93films good to know. the elantra seats hurts my back.
+courtney Vegan the elantra sport has very comfortable seats. Haven't tested the base elantra. Ioniq and elantra sport were both quite comfortable
TheStraightPipes yes,it was the base model from Zipcar I rented. and in the past,I rented the Sonata,it also had bad seats. when the ioniq gets a longer range,I will test drive it to check the seats out.
Oh my God, how much fun! You guys are the best! You shoulf add more challenge episodes to your channel. This was so good! Not get me wrong, I love your cars review, but this was another layer!
I just got my 2019 Ioniq Hybrid.. great car but I don't get the 55mpg, its more like 44-47mpg :(
Agreed there's no way you'll possibly maintain 55mpg I agree with you.
I have a 2018 Hybrid Limited and I average 53mpg and have 82,000miles in 2 years. Only time mpg suffers is in the cold. In the winter in Missouri I average 40mpg.
my previous car only got 25-27 mpg so I can't really complain but sucks I don't get what it says I'm supposed to.
Are you somewhere cold or do you drive over 75mph...best mph comes with doing 60-65mph. If you drive over 70 you won't hit 53mpg. At 75mph I get 47mpg
This is awesome! You guys should definitely do more of these adventure videos. We have a house in London (Ontario) and one in Mississauga, so i drive that route very frequently, maybe about once a week or every 2 weeks, but I never get to explore the rest of Ontario, and it's a gorgeous place honestly. This video makes me miss the times I used to go to Grand Bend and Port Stanley randomly in the off season at the beginning of Spring/Fall, similar to the time of season you filmed this, and it's so gorgeous. Very few people, and the weather is beautiful and overcast (my favourite). Sorry to ramble, but I just wanted to say I love this video. Brings back some good memories :) Definitely do more Ontario adventures in the future!
love to see you two having fun canada is just like danmark. just at bigger :P
+Michael Bagger haha awesome. Would love to visit Denmark some day, never been!
it is not for car lovers (180%) tax on car ;) hyundai i30 55.000 CAD in denmark sucks :D
+Michael Bagger wow!
I am a newer subscriber and have watched almost all of your videos in the past few weeks. Glad I saved one of your best videos for last.
You know you’ve succeed when you get to drive a 5 series and m3 while your electric charges...
I have the ioniq hybrid sports package and i love it! Recommend it for gas savings and overall comfort...
Is it just me or does the ioniq look like the best modern hybrid and electric car that isnt tesla in the business
Define "the best". It is hard to say, there are so many options out there and different design philosophies. That said, I think it is a great car (and will be better next year with the more powerful battery). I just recently bought a Honda Clarity, and honestly, if the Ioniq PHEV was more available in the U.S. it probably would have been the way I went. The 29mi all electric range is decent, and enough for 80% of the driving I do. Cars like the Volt and my Clarity that from a practical perspective are more electric cars with a range extender (50ish mile range) do so by having a large and heavy battery, which drops the gas MPG when running as a hybrid, putting them in the upper 30's and lower 40's mpg range. The Prius Prime and the Ioniq, with their smaller and lighter batteries, get nearly the same mileage (within a couple MPG) of the regular hybrids. Add to that a price difference (in the U.S.) of only $2500 between the Ioniq hybrid and Ioniq PHEV, and a $4900 federal tax rebate plus state incentives, and you can be paying significantly less on the PHEV Ioniq than the hybrid Ioniq (really, you can be at Elantra prices with the base Ioniq PHEV when you account for the tax incentives). Still, the Bolt with 230 miles is better than the 120ish of the Ioniq EV if range is important, the BMW i3 is interesting with all the modern materials (and available range extender which truly is just a range extender v. the engine in the Clarity and Volt), the Clarity and Volt are better if you want extensive electric driving but want the ability to go on long trips without any range anxiety (especially in the U.S. where large parts of it have very poor electric car charging infrastructure), etc. They all have great advantages (and some disadvantages), and "the best" overall is a rather tough call since it depends so much on your individual use of the car and really you can only find the best for a particular person's need.
Love this! My home town ;) Glad the team at BMW Kingston sorted you guys out nicely!
you guys are funny but silly though. it took me three minutes to find DC chargers along the way. i would have been able to go Toronto Ottowa in 6h40 min including charging and today's traffic... I used the app "plug share" and Google maps
Filip Bjurling please tell us your whole route. I'd honestly love to hear your planned patch. Keep replying to this. We'd love to hear your route
There is one fast charger in Smith falls and another one in Peterborough. 210km, easy to do if not traveling faster than 80km/h, since you averaged 12,6kwh/100km you would have been able to go 210km on one charge.
Filip Bjurling so the rating was 208 km after a half our fast charge(to get to 95%) and a 25 minute level 2 charge (to get to 100%). Did you factor that into your times. Also would you try to push past your battery rated limit on the first try? We averaged 100 while on the highway however the bit of city driving brought our total average down to 80.
I test drove the ioniq electric back in January here in Sweden and managed to get well below 10kwh/100km twice, once when driving behind a truck and once when chilling at 70km/h. and this was when is was almost freezing temperatures outside and I had heating on.
Filip Bjurling ya but until you drive it to 1% in 1 solid trip you really don't know. I'm glad we cut it close. Thanks for responding.
That really opened up my mind about electric and hybrids.
+Luigi Malucelli awesome
Just to show electric car is still not yet ready for daily driving, Nice challenge tho.
I would just get something like a skyactiv
Its VERY VERY ready for daily driving, maybe not AS ready for long distance road tripping. When we used it during the week neither of us had any issues with range or charging.
+Denracer Yeah if you regularly travel long distances the hybrid or plug in hybrid would be the best options. Otherwise the EV is ready for daily commuting duties. Would be the ideal 2nd car
TheStraightPipes agree.
Hey, does anyone ever heard about fast DC charging? The Ioniq is equipped with 100 kw DC charger and the battery has 24kwh usable capacity... Do the math. @TheStraightPipes used two slow AC charging points... So the Ioniq is ready for everyday use, no matter the distance.
+Sergiu Dan Ilie wrong. We tried to use faster chargers everywhere we could. We only used 2 level 2 slow chargers
Good one you guys! This show is really evolving well. Nice going!!
There is. RPM on the hybrid. I would never by a ev because of this crap when you run out of electric and no charging station available...
Pete N it's good to suffer for the benefit of the future of the environment.
+Pete N there isn't on the model we had. Apparently it comes in the upper trims
+Avi Faitelewicz nope not in Canada. I did that
+Avi Faitelewicz trust me I tried everything. No rpm gauge in our hybrid model
That's why most people stop and refill before they run out, same as in a gas car really.
I dont drive a hybrid (I drive a 2016 Tucson 1.6T) and I've learned a few things... coast off hills with no gas and use cruise control on normal roads (not just highway).
One of the best episodes from straight pipes
That looked a lot of fun guys! I'm in the UK and very soon to place an order for the new version Ioniq.
Electric vehicles aren't yet equipped for travel from one metro to another. They are only intended for driving around town, which obviously you guys found out in the video.
Great stuff love the videos! Please please please do the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV.
Such a joyful journey!
I owned a Sonata Hybrid for a year and half and I remember getting that warning to fill the tank to prevent damaging the battery. For me going full electric with that little range would not suffice. Gotta go hybrid.
I still don’t understand how’s getting low on gas can damage a hybrid’s battery.
Awesome video guys, love the fun you have doing these and apart from the entertainment they are also very informative.
Because I don't have cable anymore, I only have antenna so I don't get to watch My Favorite TV Show TopGearUk. This reminded me so much of the Car, Bike, Boat, & Train Race Challenge. Haha. This made my night! ✌
Catching up on your back catalog and wow your production value has vastly improved!
Thanks for a lot of fun. Keep the good job. TO rules!!! Miło zobaczyć komratow na youtube. Powodzenia!!!
+Mateusz Sobie Dziękuję
BMW Kingston was so nice to you guys! Great video even 18 mos later.