Couple of notes, consider this video work in progress. * Dangan Man's getting a resprite. Looking at the sprite again, we can do better, so we are. * We're looking into the collision issues with Magnetic Shockwave. Part of it is down to stage design issues, as there is only collision at the edges of the Boobeam room and not inside solid blocks, therefore Mag got a bit confused during the battle. * Yes, Boobeam Trap is in the devkit. Stop panicking, how its used will be up to the user, as the room, weakness and setup is all user determined. * "Batch 1" * I repeat "Batch 1", we're not done yet.
Y'know, I always thought that it would be fun revenge to go against the Buebeam Trap with the weapon set from Mega Man Rock Force. Whether you prefer the spammy goodness of Circuit Breaker or the steerable big-boominess of Phantom Fuse, they would probably make that particular boss much easier. And whichever one you used, you could use the other to bust down the barriers if you so chose. Tank Arsenal from Unlimited would also be a nice one to use.
Really great selection. If you are considering feedback at this point, how about other early game bosses that were impacted by sprite flicker or bad programming? Because what you did with Buebeam Trap is nothing short of outstanding. I would love to see what you can do others like Wily Machine 2 or CWU-01P.
Imho, I think you should add the invincibillity back onto the foward part of Blizzard Man's roll attack, but not after he bounces off the wall. I think it makes it so that when he does the roll, it isn't an active hindrance to him, but giving a large punish windwow for dodging the scarier of his 2 moves.
One point of critique: Blizzard Man is supposed to be invulnerable during his rollout. I even went back and played his stage to check. But in this test the charged shot clearly damaged him.
The main problem with the Buebeam Trap from the original game is that it required a very specific weapon with a very limited ammo supply, and if you didn't have enough, you were screwed. This incarnation doesn't seem to have the same problem.
Ooooh, I enjoy the fact that more obscure bosses and fortress bosses are included! I wan't expecting two Stardroids and Wonderswan bosses. Although...I can easily guess which bosses will be this game's equivalent of Volt Man, Komuso Man, and Quint...
I feel that a lot of the more common devkit boss choices in MaGMML2 submissions were chosen in part because of having something to stand out; Quint for being a souped-up version of a Game Boy boss, Komuso Man for being a R&F2 boss, Chill Man to a lesser extent for using his hard mode pattern, Mecha Dragon for being a fortress boss, and of course Volt Man for being a DOS boss. Looking at this batch alone, I can only see maybe 3 or 5 bosses that DON'T have a similar uniqueness factor. This is going to be interesting.
you really have a nice set of bosses you picked here! i especially love the inclusions of the Giant Suzy, Dangan man, and the Grey Devil. Though im kinda afraid to see whats gonna happen with Boobeam Trap....
Ooh, that one weapon shown off is rad as heck. Also, really? The Boobeam Trap? The single worst boss from the worst Megaman game? How delightfully devilish. I can't wait to see how that's going to be used in the contest.
EVILLY. If I didn't already have level plans I would so be using those for nefarious purposes. (Actually, if my level plans fall through I might anyway.)
There are so many bosses to choose from with the devkit this time around. I hope the final turnout of levels doesn't wind up with so many empty boss rooms like in the last contest.
I did not expect to see Uranus or Dangan Man, but this is an interesting boss choice. I'm liking how this is turning out, and I can't wait to see it finished! One question though: will the custom costume feature from MaGMML 2 return in this game? Either way, this is truly amazing, so keep up the good work!
Since WHEN could you buster shot Blizzard Man during his spinning frames? Last I checked all buster shots got deflected off him when he rolls. Maybe this was a change for MaGMML3 to make him slightly easier, or just a mistake? I dunno.
Hi, ACE! Is the GameMakerStudio engine and devkit for the previous contest available anywhere? I want to test some ideas I'd like to implement in a possible future level submission, but I don't want to do it using the original MAGMMLC2 developer tools because I don't know if they'll translate to GMS.
Pretty interesting how you're not just using Robot Masters and the regular bosses. I'm excited to see how things will turn out with fortress bosses and the like.
Bomb Man: Almost typed Bob Man, 50/50. Spark Man: Electrifying. Uranus: Interested to see the blocks he throws and spawns. Giant Suzy: What? Gray Devil: Sure, why not. Kamegoro Maker: turtles, like i Saturn: His ring is finally apart of the dress code. Blizzard Man: Not invincible when rolling, -0/0 Dangan Man: Yeah, my favorite from CftF is here! Boobeam Trap: What drugs did Ace take to include this and where can I get some?
A few questions: 1 - Is this still being made on game maker or will this be upgraded to something else? 2 - Slightly unrelated, but will Rush Cycle be able to go on spikes? I'm curious since I'm wanting to make a level segment that makes use of the ol' doggo. 3 - very related, who do think will be the overused Dev Kit boss of MaGMML3
Hey, any weapon that makes the Boobeam Trap not a colossal pain is fine by me ;) Kinda makes me wish I could compete in MaGMML3. While I technically still can, time permitting, I'd rather cut my chops on Mega Man Maker first to give myself a bit more experience, to test what does and doesn't work. Maybe if there's a MaGMML4 in the future?
Now that MaGMML3 is out, it seems as if Grey Devil is the new Volt Man. The Neo Overused Devkit Boss Royal Flush is like: Grey Devil, Enker, Hunter B, and Met Daddy.
Why Boobeam Trap? That’s one of the most controversial bosses in Megaman histrory. Also, are you still planning to finish the development behind Revolution and Quint 2?
Oh god the Boobeam Trap! I get PTSD whenever I see that thing! WHY DIDN'T THEY GIVE YOU ENOUGH WEAPON ENERGY FOR THAT BOSS! **goes fetal position, rolls into a corner, and starts sobbing uncontrollably**
Looks good and i love the selection of bosses! But here are some of my thoughts: 3:02 Might wanna check the hitbox on grey devil when he's moving to the other side of the room. His sprite is rounded and you got hit by the corner of the invisible square mask, which seems a little bs to me. Makes it much harder than needed to jump over him 5:08 When blizzard man slams into a wall, he lands too far into the middle of the stage and it just looks odd. Also i think the boobeam trap shouldn't need to drop an energy element (unless all the other bosses do in the final build). It should just end the level. And that dangan man sprite is just the worst
Opinion on each boss here... Bomb Man: Gotta start somewhere. Spark Man: Oh, this guy. Uranus: Oh cool, Stardroids! Great to see these guys. Giant Suzy: Oh boy, the infamous boss in a boss corridor. This could get interesting... Grey Devil: Fancy seeing this guy! Kamegoro Maker: Rather neat to see the only original fortress boss (excluding Gamma) from Mega Man 3. Saturn: Best planet in Stardroid form. I'm not sure what to think of him. Nice to see him here though. Blizzard Man: Memorable Robot Master ONLY because of a really strange MM8BDM video. Dangan Man: Next Kumuso Man? Maybe? And... Boobeam Trap: Oh my...
Would there be some way of including the code for the MAGMML2 boss attack patterns even if the bosses themselves are absent? I mean, isn't that the actual point of the Devkit Bosses? (Heck, given how he's been released, you can even throw Yoku Man's patterns into the mix, though, again, not necessarily Yoku Man himself.)
Not a lot of traditional Robot Masters in this video, huh. But that's fine. Though I'm gonna call it now, Dangan Man is going to be overused in the contest levels due to being the most obscure choice (see: Volt Man and Komuso Man's overpopulation in MaGMML2). ...I have concerns about Boobeam Trap though. Primarily, whether it'll require the use of special weapons. That could be a pain.
This is using GameMaker Studio, which was free. Technically still available too thanks to the way Steam works, which is why they're going to use it still from the sounds of things. GameMaker Studio 2 isn't free, but it probably won't be an option for submitting stages, so...
- Still no Rockman Strategy representatives - No DOS representatives - No green Star Man from Game Gear - Dangan Man more like Dang It Man (like if you agree) - Turtles are a dumb animal - Not Mega Man 2, Boobeam Trap is too easy -50/100
New weakness for the Boobeam Trap eh? At least that weapon doesn't eat as much energy to use as the Crash Bombs did, thought to myself "They need to at least give you the Crash Bombs, it's the only way to kill that boss... unless they changed the weakness
That's good to hear, the biggest gripe I always had with that boss was running out of Crash bombs, so if feels good knowing that someone MAY give it the Mega Buster weakness, but we'll see
Wow! It's almost like having them be "GOOD" RMs by whatever definition you have ( I mean I consider Blizzard Man and Spark Man good RMs, but that's just me; everyone has their own definition of a good RM) is not the point of devkit bosses in the slightest! The actual point of Devkit Bosses is for them to be EXAMPLES of different abilities, so that people who don't know how to code have a guide to use as reference! The fact that they just went through the lenghts to recreate the exact patterns of each boss that they based it on instead of just the specific aspect they needed is an extra. Here's the actual point of devkit bosses: Let's say I wanna code a boss that gets faster or stronger as he loses health, but I don't know how to code very well! Well, thankfully, Big Suzy is an example of that, as he gets faster and jumps way more the more damage he takes, so I can look at his code and use that as a reference! Explosive attack? I have Bomb Man to look into. Sucking the player in like a vaccum? Thanks for Saturn. This comment is so weird and just in general feels like the person who made it missed the entire point of devkit bosses and thinks the devs "just ran out of ideas" or "good RMs".
I tend to not look at bosses as just strings of code.You can't really call these the best the megaman series has to offer. Also most people who don't know how to code would just use the boss instead of using their code.
I never said they were the best the series had to offer, because they're not MEANT to be, they're just meant to showcase specific features that a person could use. Also, if an entrant did use a devkit boss with no modifications whatsoever, I'm sure that would be looked down upon, I mean it's not hard to modify a devkit boss, you'd be surprised with how far you can go to the point of making a whole new boss with some edits that even somebody who doesn't know coding can make (I'm talking from experience here, as this is something I've seen firsthand). I feel like you assume too little of people who don't have much coding experience.
Well, MAGMML 2 had devkit bosses that were fun ones on their own and yet most of the stages didn't use bosses at all. Also I have no experience coding so I can tell you there are people who can't figure that out. I couldn't even figure out how to make a stage XD
I think it's more about choosing bosses that are unique than choosing the ones that everyone likes/knows about. This makes MaGMML 3 much more interesting imo. I mean, would you rather fight bosses that you barely see and maybe haven't heard of, or just more Guts Mans and Metal Mans? It's the reason why the obscure bosses like Volt Man and Komuso Man were the most widely used ones in MaGMML 2.
Couple of notes, consider this video work in progress.
* Dangan Man's getting a resprite. Looking at the sprite again, we can do better, so we are.
* We're looking into the collision issues with Magnetic Shockwave. Part of it is down to stage design issues, as there is only collision at the edges of the Boobeam room and not inside solid blocks, therefore Mag got a bit confused during the battle.
* Yes, Boobeam Trap is in the devkit. Stop panicking, how its used will be up to the user, as the room, weakness and setup is all user determined.
* "Batch 1"
* I repeat "Batch 1", we're not done yet.
ACESpark no problem
Y'know, I always thought that it would be fun revenge to go against the Buebeam Trap with the weapon set from Mega Man Rock Force. Whether you prefer the spammy goodness of Circuit Breaker or the steerable big-boominess of Phantom Fuse, they would probably make that particular boss much easier. And whichever one you used, you could use the other to bust down the barriers if you so chose. Tank Arsenal from Unlimited would also be a nice one to use.
Mr.ACESpark You should add Snakeman to be honest.
Really great selection. If you are considering feedback at this point, how about other early game bosses that were impacted by sprite flicker or bad programming? Because what you did with Buebeam Trap is nothing short of outstanding. I would love to see what you can do others like Wily Machine 2 or CWU-01P.
Imho, I think you should add the invincibillity back onto the foward part of Blizzard Man's roll attack, but not after he bounces off the wall. I think it makes it so that when he does the roll, it isn't an active hindrance to him, but giving a large punish windwow for dodging the scarier of his 2 moves.
One point of critique: Blizzard Man is supposed to be invulnerable during his rollout. I even went back and played his stage to check. But in this test the charged shot clearly damaged him.
Probably right.
So I guess we will have overused devkit boss royal flush with Uranus, Giant Suzy, Graey Devil, and Boobeam Trap this time around.
*Sees BooBeam Trap* OH GOD WHY
The main problem with the Buebeam Trap from the original game is that it required a very specific weapon with a very limited ammo supply, and if you didn't have enough, you were screwed. This incarnation doesn't seem to have the same problem.
True dat
Actually, Magnetic Shockwave is from Marvel vs Capcom
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Ooooh, I enjoy the fact that more obscure bosses and fortress bosses are included! I wan't expecting two Stardroids and Wonderswan bosses. Although...I can easily guess which bosses will be this game's equivalent of Volt Man, Komuso Man, and Quint...
I feel that a lot of the more common devkit boss choices in MaGMML2 submissions were chosen in part because of having something to stand out; Quint for being a souped-up version of a Game Boy boss, Komuso Man for being a R&F2 boss, Chill Man to a lesser extent for using his hard mode pattern, Mecha Dragon for being a fortress boss, and of course Volt Man for being a DOS boss.
Looking at this batch alone, I can only see maybe 3 or 5 bosses that DON'T have a similar uniqueness factor. This is going to be interesting.
you really have a nice set of bosses you picked here! i especially love the inclusions of the Giant Suzy, Dangan man, and the Grey Devil. Though im kinda afraid to see whats gonna happen with Boobeam Trap....
Ooh, that one weapon shown off is rad as heck.
Also, really? The Boobeam Trap? The single worst boss from the worst Megaman game? How delightfully devilish. I can't wait to see how that's going to be used in the contest.
EVILLY. If I didn't already have level plans I would so be using those for nefarious purposes. (Actually, if my level plans fall through I might anyway.)
OH MY GOD I CAN'T WAIT FOR THOSE TROLLS WITH Boobeam Trap
5:04 this guy will be perfect for as boss on mega man maker
ACE can you add the mega arm from Mega Man V GB as a upgrade to buy in MagMML3 ?
Of course you have to beat boo bean with a marvel vs capcom move
There are so many bosses to choose from with the devkit this time around. I hope the final turnout of levels doesn't wind up with so many empty boss rooms like in the last contest.
how to make levels like that please answer me
What happened to Megaman Revolution Remix? :0
I'd also like to know this. It seemed like it was almost done, then suddenly everything went quiet,
Amazing guys, keep up the good job. Glad to see some love for MM & Bass
Giant Suzy should be blue as shown in the artwork (though personally it looks wrong)
I did not expect to see Uranus or Dangan Man, but this is an interesting boss choice. I'm liking how this is turning out, and I can't wait to see it finished! One question though: will the custom costume feature from MaGMML 2 return in this game? Either way, this is truly amazing, so keep up the good work!
Nice to see Giant Suzy actually being used (I honestly wish the first 4 Mega Man GB games got more attention)
-I knew voting for boobeam trap in the magmml2 poll was a good idea-
I know that you are joking with that, but have some backbone to stand for your own decisions. You are afterall now a member of proud game creators. ;)
You did what now?
Why is it that I think this can be used as a corridor trap?
Remember guys, the title says "Batch 1". There's probably going to be more bosses than what we see here. I wonder...
Also yes guys, I get it, everyone hates Boobeam Trap, but people might do creative things with it, who knows?
Gotta wonder what the next "Overused Devkit Boss Royal Flush" is going to be (thx for the creative title ACESpark)
Since WHEN could you buster shot Blizzard Man during his spinning frames? Last I checked all buster shots got deflected off him when he rolls. Maybe this was a change for MaGMML3 to make him slightly easier, or just a mistake? I dunno.
These are sooooooo fun to watch!
Everyone's worried about the Buebeam Trap...when we should be discussing the fact that there's a Devkit boss with an INSTANT-DEATH move.
Hi, ACE! Is the GameMakerStudio engine and devkit for the previous contest available anywhere? I want to test some ideas I'd like to implement in a possible future level submission, but I don't want to do it using the original MAGMMLC2 developer tools because I don't know if they'll translate to GMS.
Random though, but isn't Blizzard Man supposed to be invulnerable when he does his rollout ability, or am I getting forgetful in my old age?
Pretty interesting how you're not just using Robot Masters and the regular bosses.
I'm excited to see how things will turn out with fortress bosses and the like.
Bomb Man: Almost typed Bob Man, 50/50.
Spark Man: Electrifying.
Uranus: Interested to see the blocks he throws and spawns.
Giant Suzy: What?
Gray Devil: Sure, why not.
Kamegoro Maker: turtles, like i
Saturn: His ring is finally apart of the dress code.
Blizzard Man: Not invincible when rolling, -0/0
Dangan Man: Yeah, my favorite from CftF is here!
Boobeam Trap: What drugs did Ace take to include this and where can I get some?
Is it just me or the bullets from the buster are slower?It seems odd,besides,the enemies bullets have also this aspect
A few questions:
1 - Is this still being made on game maker or will this be upgraded to something else?
2 - Slightly unrelated, but will Rush Cycle be able to go on spikes? I'm curious since I'm wanting to make a level segment that makes use of the ol' doggo.
3 - very related, who do think will be the overused Dev Kit boss of MaGMML3
You're not supposed to reveal things about your level. Normally that'd deduct points. So just take out the last sentence.
Hey, any weapon that makes the Boobeam Trap not a colossal pain is fine by me ;)
Kinda makes me wish I could compete in MaGMML3. While I technically still can, time permitting, I'd rather cut my chops on Mega Man Maker first to give myself a bit more experience, to test what does and doesn't work. Maybe if there's a MaGMML4 in the future?
Now that MaGMML3 is out, it seems as if Grey Devil is the new Volt Man.
The Neo Overused Devkit Boss Royal Flush is like: Grey Devil, Enker, Hunter B, and Met Daddy.
Looks cool so far. I'm not a big fan of the Boobeam trap though. Is Break Man going to be in MaGMML3?
If the grey devil is here
Does that means rockman shadow will be a devkit boss?
Are you sure BooBeam Trap is a good idea for a DEVKIT BOSS?
Why Boobeam Trap? That’s one of the most controversial bosses in Megaman histrory. Also, are you still planning to finish the development behind Revolution and Quint 2?
You should make a boss fight on heavy/big robot masters
Like guts, wood, hard you get it?
Oh god the Boobeam Trap! I get PTSD whenever I see that thing! WHY DIDN'T THEY GIVE YOU ENOUGH WEAPON ENERGY FOR THAT BOSS!
**goes fetal position, rolls into a corner, and starts sobbing uncontrollably**
Oh god, not the boobeam trap. Calling it now--that'll get used by every bad level in the entire contest.
"Boobeam Trap", you say? Oh, ACESpark, you devil...
Oh, ACESpark, you GREY devil...
geddit
eh
no?
k
Megaman and forte bosses really like throwing three objects then moving to the other wall
What weapon were you using when you fought the Boobeam Trap? I've never seen it before.
Magnetic Shockwave, its one of the more obscure weapons in Mega Man's arsenal - it's from Marvel vs Capcom.
Ah, thanks.
I love this person's comics
Oh noes. Also, I realized that Blizzardman doesn't have any invencible frames yet. Or is it just my imagination?
The selection here is Great!, (Except for one glaring exception)
0:13 music?
Are we going to get the Mega Arm from Megaman V gameboy?
the planet theme bosses from MM5 GB are the best and deadliest in my opinion
When will this game be released?
2:14
Minor question: Will all the bosses from the MaGMML2 devkit be in the new one?
Reid FitzHugh probably. Volt and komuso might be removed tho because of overuse
Looking forward to fighting Boobeam trap with more barriers and pits.
Looks good and i love the selection of bosses! But here are some of my thoughts:
3:02 Might wanna check the hitbox on grey devil when he's moving to the other side of the room. His sprite is rounded and you got hit by the corner of the invisible square mask, which seems a little bs to me. Makes it much harder than needed to jump over him
5:08 When blizzard man slams into a wall, he lands too far into the middle of the stage and it just looks odd.
Also i think the boobeam trap shouldn't need to drop an energy element (unless all the other bosses do in the final build). It should just end the level.
And that dangan man sprite is just the worst
Uh oh... Boobeam trap... CLASH BLASTER! GO!
Can't wait to see how people abuse of Boobeam Trap on their entries.
Huh, didn't expect to see some of those gameboy bosses
Opinion on each boss here...
Bomb Man: Gotta start somewhere.
Spark Man: Oh, this guy.
Uranus: Oh cool, Stardroids! Great to see these guys.
Giant Suzy: Oh boy, the infamous boss in a boss corridor. This could get interesting...
Grey Devil: Fancy seeing this guy!
Kamegoro Maker: Rather neat to see the only original fortress boss (excluding Gamma) from Mega Man 3.
Saturn: Best planet in Stardroid form. I'm not sure what to think of him. Nice to see him here though.
Blizzard Man: Memorable Robot Master ONLY because of a really strange MM8BDM video.
Dangan Man: Next Kumuso Man? Maybe?
And...
Boobeam Trap: Oh my...
Out of all the star droids why uranis why not pluto or jupiter
Great Boss rush!
i really want to see RockMan Shadow from M&B (wonderswan), I already see komuso man from Magmml2, and wow Magnetic Shockwave look AWESOME
Cool
And now we wait for our own creations…
So will the magmml2 devkit bosses be returning as well?
Most probably will return. We're debating on including Komuso, Quint, Volt and Mecha Dragon though given their prominence.
Would there be some way of including the code for the MAGMML2 boss attack patterns even if the bosses themselves are absent? I mean, isn't that the actual point of the Devkit Bosses? (Heck, given how he's been released, you can even throw Yoku Man's patterns into the mix, though, again, not necessarily Yoku Man himself.)
Bullet man!!!! ❤️❤️❤️ I love mm&b2
I just noticed,
There's no "Make a good mega man X level" yet.
Not a lot of traditional Robot Masters in this video, huh. But that's fine.
Though I'm gonna call it now, Dangan Man is going to be overused in the contest levels due to being the most obscure choice (see: Volt Man and Komuso Man's overpopulation in MaGMML2).
...I have concerns about Boobeam Trap though. Primarily, whether it'll require the use of special weapons. That could be a pain.
This is cool!
If I had the know-how and did something regarding the fact that Game Maker costs moneys now, I'd make Maestro from MM8BDM a boss.
This is using GameMaker Studio, which was free. Technically still available too thanks to the way Steam works, which is why they're going to use it still from the sounds of things. GameMaker Studio 2 isn't free, but it probably won't be an option for submitting stages, so...
B....Boobeam!?
At least that seems quite more fair than original tho.
- Still no Rockman Strategy representatives
- No DOS representatives
- No green Star Man from Game Gear
- Dangan Man more like Dang It Man (like if you agree)
- Turtles are a dumb animal
- Not Mega Man 2, Boobeam Trap is too easy
-50/100
Can't wait to see them all used in the absolute worst way possible.
New weakness for the Boobeam Trap eh? At least that weapon doesn't eat as much energy to use as the Crash Bombs did, thought to myself "They need to at least give you the Crash Bombs, it's the only way to kill that boss... unless they changed the weakness
Currently, the user can set the weakness of Boobeam to any of the weapons, even the Mega Buster, so it leaves it open to some variety!
That's good to hear, the biggest gripe I always had with that boss was running out of Crash bombs, so if feels good knowing that someone MAY give it the Mega Buster weakness, but we'll see
i hope Dennis the super Met will be In
I hope we can get Sonic man and Dyna man
Why make so many bosses when the only boss anyone is going to use will be dangan man
What… the fuck… boobeam trap? BOOBEAM TRAP?
ダンガンマンさんもいる。いいね！
*BOOBEAM TRAP*
>boobeam trap
Go home! The show is over.
quoting punch out aside, _why this tho_
boobeam trap omg
To OP pls nerf.
I guess uranus will be overused... Oh wait it already is
Please no, I need more time!
No boobeamtrap NOOOOOOOOOO
Cool!
6:30 no
Danganronpa is my favorite Robot Master.
*Dangan Man
cool!
Neato
Uranus is the worst startroid! Why him?
Boobeam trap. But y
When SIBRE?
Dangan man = TANGA MAN ok no
PLEASE GET RID OF THE BOOMBEAM TRAPS, seriously We don’t need that boss....
Planetaroids
that last one....NO no...that is going to be so over used
このゲームは、ちゃんとCAPCOMに許可取ってんのか？許可取ってなかったら確実に著作権法違反やな。
haha yes
>Sees the thumbnail pic
Did we run out of good RMs?
>Giant Suzy is included
Looks like we did :/
Wow! It's almost like having them be "GOOD" RMs by whatever definition you have ( I mean I consider Blizzard Man and Spark Man good RMs, but that's just me; everyone has their own definition of a good RM) is not the point of devkit bosses in the slightest! The actual point of Devkit Bosses is for them to be EXAMPLES of different abilities, so that people who don't know how to code have a guide to use as reference! The fact that they just went through the lenghts to recreate the exact patterns of each boss that they based it on instead of just the specific aspect they needed is an extra.
Here's the actual point of devkit bosses: Let's say I wanna code a boss that gets faster or stronger as he loses health, but I don't know how to code very well! Well, thankfully, Big Suzy is an example of that, as he gets faster and jumps way more the more damage he takes, so I can look at his code and use that as a reference! Explosive attack? I have Bomb Man to look into. Sucking the player in like a vaccum? Thanks for Saturn.
This comment is so weird and just in general feels like the person who made it missed the entire point of devkit bosses and thinks the devs "just ran out of ideas" or "good RMs".
I tend to not look at bosses as just strings of code.You can't really call these the best the megaman series has to offer. Also most people who don't know how to code would just use the boss instead of using their code.
I never said they were the best the series had to offer, because they're not MEANT to be, they're just meant to showcase specific features that a person could use. Also, if an entrant did use a devkit boss with no modifications whatsoever, I'm sure that would be looked down upon, I mean it's not hard to modify a devkit boss, you'd be surprised with how far you can go to the point of making a whole new boss with some edits that even somebody who doesn't know coding can make (I'm talking from experience here, as this is something I've seen firsthand). I feel like you assume too little of people who don't have much coding experience.
Well, MAGMML 2 had devkit bosses that were fun ones on their own and yet most of the stages didn't use bosses at all. Also I have no experience coding so I can tell you there are people who can't figure that out. I couldn't even figure out how to make a stage XD
I think it's more about choosing bosses that are unique than choosing the ones that everyone likes/knows about. This makes MaGMML 3 much more interesting imo. I mean, would you rather fight bosses that you barely see and maybe haven't heard of, or just more Guts Mans and Metal Mans? It's the reason why the obscure bosses like Volt Man and Komuso Man were the most widely used ones in MaGMML 2.