$1000 Datsun 280z Engine Rebuild (Ep.3)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 มี.ค. 2017
- Back for more Japanese car punishment, we set out to fix up a "new" L28 engine and modify it here and there to get rid of what won't be needed. Like A/C, power steering, and emissions equipment (it will be a Historic titled car).
Watch episode 1 here: • $1000 1978 Datsun 280z...
Watch episode 2 here: • $1000 Datsun 280z Exam...
We decided the best route was to not bother trying to repair the engine that came in the car and just start "fresh". This new engine came with its own unique challenges, but hopefully everything will work out in the end. This engine came with the fuel injection parts, wiring harness, and computer so Sean wants to take the car back to EFI (instead of using the carb setup the previous owner installed).
The idea here is to keep things manageable and cheap, so sticking with the engine design that came in the car seems like the only option. For now, at least. Three months in, this quick project has turned into more of an undertaking than we had hoped, but it means you get to see more screw-ups and breaking parts, so it's not a total loss.
Sean is currently out of country for a few weeks, which is why the voiceover is a one-man-show. I don't think it detracts from this episode, as more banter like in episode 2 would have dragged this out a bit too long anyway. Episode 4 is the engine swap itself, and may be out sooner than you think. What lies in the future for the car however, can only be speculated upon.
FLASHING LIGHTS WARNING: Lots of strobing in the scenes featuring a welder. Gave me a headache when editing, don't underestimate the power of flashing lights. Kept it short enough I didn't feel it warranted an in-video warning, though.
Timeline of filming: January 4th - February 24th, 2017
Song List (Order of First Appearance):
0:14 Ether - Silent Partner
1:46 Open Highway - Silent Partner
3:44 Museums - Silent Partner
5:41 Last Call - Silent Partner
9:30 Triangles - Silent Partner
10:08 Whiskey - Huma-Huma
10:45 Getting There - Silent Partner
12:34 Parasail - Silent Partner
15:50 Passive Struggle - Silent Partner
(All music provided by TH-cam's Audio Library royalty free.)
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I can't tell you how enjoyable it is to watch two smart, passionate back yard mechanics building a dream!!! I LOVE that you've taken the time to video this whole project. I love that you're on a severe budget. I love that you are determined to do it right. I love that you don't just lose interest and leave it sit for months in between (I haven't checked all your video dates but it doesn't seem like you do LOL). I'm subbed and so glad to be watching two unpretentious men get to work and build what a lot of people would consider one of their dream builds! Thanks again! I guess that's a bit too much love but hey I don't care!
I love how at 8:47 when the bolt snaps, fade to black is playing lol
Engine builds actually look fun. I want to do at least one in my life on a budget haha. But anytime you start working with wires I get sick haha. With that wiring diagram I would lose my mind really quick
That was definitely a scary looking wiring harness.
so far I've watched three parts,from the first video I knew this was going to be a good build ,good friendship,good humour,great video editing and you have a car that started out like my 280 except I also had rust.But I had that foam shot every where I took it all,all ,all out.Every morsel gone ,dog legs rockers ,filled both tool boxes with that crap all gone.
You are doing all the fun stuff if the build looking at it's abusive history and now embarking on making it your own ,my two Z cars 73 240, 78 280 just finished both chassis ,root ,patch,fabricate and replaced back to a solid chassis ,plus. I'm enjoying your build while I'm building mine two at once by me alone. It's cool you have another enthusiast to enjoy the adventure with great job !!!
It's tough going at a project like that alone, though at least thanks to the internet there is usually information out there that can help you along. And then sometimes you just need to sit on the floor for a few hours and pull out expanding foam somebody "fixed" the holes with. I'm glad you like the series, thank you for the compliments! Best of luck with your cars!
FuzzyDicePimp well I have been restoring cars since I was 16 ,when I grew tired of the food service industry, and opened my own restoration shop that only focused on sports cars ,restoring mini Coopers,lotus,Porsche,mg,Austin Healey, Alfa,anything that was fun when it was done even kit and replicas. Closed my shop after 20yrs.
I moved to Florida and just build my own personal cars now. So I'm enjoying building my own cars the way I want ..just to drive.NO computers no fuel injection.Just old school cars in a modern world .Great stress relief.
great watching your build it's the week end I have two whole days to work on my Zs. I'll relax and watch you guys build yours after I stop working on mine..Good vids.
Ok, the welding nut trick is awesome. I need to remember that. (we break a LOT of bolts here in Ohio...)
iamawatermelon wow! A troll!! I've always heard these exist but never met one!
I know it sounds crazy but I've used this tip many many times to great success.. a small handheld butane torch is your best friend with stubborn bolts like that crank bolt and might possibly have saved that head bolt. Loving this video series!
The slow mo welding was cool! Lol
On Lockdown here in Co. Durham,UK so I'm binge watching these again.
remember, penetrating fluid is your friend.
There is a limit to what it can do haha, we drenched the thing in it. Seems like Nissan used some very questionable metals or hardening for most of their bolts, tons of them came apart. The ones the welder didn't work on drilled out like butter.
have you ever tried mixing acetone with ATF? a 50/50 mixture is generally better at penetrating threads than store bought stuff. i dont doubt some of the bolts naturally "welded" themselves to the engine. i guess the expanding and contracting of the metals just took its toll on them.
I have in the past, but didn't have any luck with it. People talk about that mixture like it is the second coming, so I will have to try it out again sometime. And yeah, all of those steel bolts in aluminum parts 38 years later isn't helping anything.
I've had really good luck using that mixture to get heavily rusted exhaust bolts off. I've never used it on anything else though.
@@FuzzyDiceProjects pull em out slowly by hand next time, power tools add extra stress
I love LOVE L O V E DATSUN 280Z's. 1975 thru 1978. Had a 75. I have never found another car that corners as well. Believe me I've driven a thousand differnt models nothing compares. I used to put my z in a power spin in the middle of a 4 way stop sign intersection. Never hit any thing did get dizzy ! Dont let these haters slow you down. You have one of the greatest car ever made its a diamond in the rough.
I agree with you 100%. I love these little cars too. I had a 73 240 then traded it for a 77 280 then traded it for an 83 280zx Turbo. I miss the 240 and 280 Z cars the most. I wished they’d rebuilt the first motor, assuming it was original to the car, and reinstalled it.
You guys are doing fine so far. I'm hooked. I have a 1980 280zx that I'm going to start restoring, hopefully soon. Room to work and the tools are the big challenge now.
high quality vids, its dope to see the progress. about to by a 280z myself, really excited!
I had a version of this engine in my 82' Maxima . These engines are so reliable and have such good power to weight ratio it seems they could be used to power a small airplane .
It is surprisingly torquey and it puts power down very quickly, the computer stuff on this one is a bit fiddly (not surprising considering the age), but it seems like a great engine design!
Hi from the UK 🇬🇧 love this video series thanks
I thoroughly enjoyed that. Nice job guys.
Great video guys. The Z will be running in no time.
Love these episodes keep up the good work
Love the build thread! Keep the videos coming
I'm wearing that same flannel @ 8:35 right now... SUBBED!
SIMPLE.STUFF.
great video dude
Thats one hell of an unboxing knife. great video.
Omg I lost it when the guinea pig popped up xD
Well big ups for the machete unboxing
How about next time you open a box you do it with a chainsaw.
I know these videos were a while ago. But if you haven’t done it yet.... may I suggest you install a pattern of fluorescent lights in the garage, so you can actually see what you’re working on.
Pretty soon after this video, I installed some pretty bright LED lights into the garage which helped a lot. It will always look darker on camera though, and I have been trying to use camera-mounted lights to keep things brighter than they were in these early episodes.
great editing on this one
1000$ for the car was a good price..a good score for sure. Unfortunately they are very finicky. But a good challenge.
Nice trick on a broken bolt!!
How am I just discovering this channel?
"Simple Stuff" hahahaha
what a good find!
quality stuff, very nice :)
awsome camera work and editing, if you keep up this quality, the views will come flowin like air through a good intake manifold.
and is this engine single cam?
Haha, I hope so. This series is a lot of work, but hopefully something people can enjoy! And it is indeed a single overhead cam.
Rock auto for the win
thank you sir
Just wanna say I love the series so far and any advice for building a 280zx?
So cool guys
THIS is what working on a car actually looks like.
The Japanese know how to build engines.
Nice
luv the series, but gotta wonder why was that "new" enjin taken out of the vehicle? hopefuly it was wrecked
I think that blue paint is factory standard on Nissans/Datsuns from this period. What you thought was junkyard writing also looks like a factory identifier code stencil in white paint. It's not really a surprise, these were pretty tough engines that ran from the early '60s through to the late '80s at least, and probably longer in JDM vehicles. Having come out of a 280ZX it's probably had a pretty easy life being as that car was much more of a GT than a sports car and didn't handle anything like as well as the Z-cars. Sadly, we never (officially) got the 280Z in the UK and by this time we only got the considerably less pretty 260Z 2+2, although plenty of people built there own using engines harvested from rusty or just unwanted 280C saloons/sedans and estates/station wagons...
Interesting info, thanks for sharing!
@@FuzzyDiceProjects My pleasure...
I learned something new that motor takes the same oil filter for a 89 to 96 4.9 inline 6 Ford
Legend
First video I seen of you. Are you a mechanic or are you just a gearhead? Nice work bro 👌👌
arvin mendoza Mike and I actually met at a college course for Automotive Technology. We've both taken classes on fixing cars but never worked in field.
Sean Liu wow that's sick! I can't believe you wired that all up! I'm a 20 year old mechanic been in the field for 3 years. I've rebuild 2 engines but wiring diagrams piss me off so much !
for small enough bolts that strip. I drill the heads off and fit my drill hand tightened onto the bolt threading and reverse it out
Most of the time (at least around here) if bolts round off or break, it's because they were rusted or seized in place and they were damaged when trying to loosen them. If that is the case they usually won't come out easy (channel locks work a lot of the time if the bolt head/threads are exposed) if they were stuck enough to break the bolt itself. But if you're lucky, or something was damaged when tightening, I'm sure that trick would work great!
Don't use a torque wrench to loosen bolts. Save that calibrated instrument for precision tightening only.
It’s a messed up torque wrench so they just use it as a ratchet
Should of got the 280zx turbo model in the 81-83 I beleive
I had an 83 Turbo ZX and when you floored the car that little turbo would emit the coolest little high pitched whine. My little niece and nephew would always want to hear that turbo whine. :)
"We were just glad this new engine had all the bolts in it." yeah man holy fuck what the hell happened with that other motor......
i'd spend a couple extra bugs and get studs for head
i can smell this video
Needs more rvt 😃
14:26 it sounds like someone is whispering sweet.
merci merci merci
I have a bad feeling about the 'simple stuff' and I;m not sure why... ;-)
-Shawn
That was a lot of work. How come you didn't paint it
Time mostly, we just wanted to get it running ASAP
Just wondering...are you on the Eastern Shore? I know Ive seen the Blazer before!
Not quite, I'm an hour or two West from there
What's your experience level welding and what kind of welder do you guys use? I've never welded before but could use one for the same kind of work you guys are doing? Great videos btw!
The welder we have is a cheap-o Harbor Freight 170A 240V MIG, and have only used it with flux core wire. It doesn't do so well on thin stuff (using .030 wire and gas would probably help) like exhausts and sheet metal, but it is possible to weld those things and we have done it successfully. It is very easy to use for anything over 1/8" thick. Flux core wire makes a mess but does the job fine. There are some fiddly cheap plastic bits in of the wire feed mechanism that you need to be careful with and play around with to get it to feed at the lower settings.
Both of us have only ever worked with this one welder with flux core wire so very limited experience, MIG welding is straightforward enough that you can jump right in with only some basic knowledge (and some steel to practice on).
Just put a small block in it
Late to the party, but why did the original engine need an ECU if it was carb'd and had a distributor?
What song is that when your unboxing? I hear that tune everywhere!
That would be "Parasail" by Silent Partner! I list all the music used in the video descriptions if you want to know another song in the future!
I'm 21 years old in 1 week and I'm thinking it's about time to get a project car for myself is it worth it?
kevin adkins Kinda. Maybe. Not really. It'll be 100x more frustrating and $$$ then plan. But you'll have the pride of what you built.
Practice by buying a good car and then taking all the good parts off and trying to drive it. Then gouge your eyes out with a spork. That's the feeling you'll have trying to fix it up. But the feeling you'll get when you finish your car is priceless.
Rb25det not that expensive
Awsome video , music is pretty cool too.
me screaming at my monitor... "PAINT THE ENGINE!"
But muh pateena!!!
Hey fuzzy dice literally looking a videos of people buying old 240s and 280s because my neighbors have a old black 240z 70's and I wanted to know if I should buy it off of them? It's an old couple that owns it and it's just sitting the the backyard next to an old 70's VW hatchback
I bought my first project car at 21, a '78 Firebird (seen in a few glimpses of this series). It was a full year and a half before it was in shape to drive, and uncountable hours of work, but it's very satisfying when you have turned someone else's lawn ornament into your daily transportation, or a weekend cruiser. My second project was a '88 S10 Blazer the previous owner bought to use in a destruction derby. I'm not really into "restoring" cars, so if you want a project car to make it look factory new, that's a different story and will take many more years, or never get done. I'm into fixing cars, bringing them back to life and making them into something that can give you what you want out of them.
Are project cars time consuming? Of course. Space consuming (need a garage or at least a driveway and no HOA)? Of course. Can they become money pits? Easily. It can be torturous, pain-inducing, back-breaking, heart-wrenching (pun intended) work. But it's also incredibly satisfying, and once you do have it roadworthy it's something you can always improve, upgrade, or just enjoy on your own schedule and at will.
Of course, it's all up to you. I'd recommend having a back-up, reliable, daily driver and no expectations of schedule for getting a project car running. The 280z in this series is still sitting in my driveway with this engine in it but nothing connected. A car owned by an old couple sitting for years sounds pretty much perfect, if the rot isn't too bad (definitely look all around and underneath it, Datsuns are particularly rusty animals) and the price fits then I say go for it. A car from an old couple is probably unmolested and at least mostly original, unlike the horror show seen in this series, and especially for a first project car that is the best start you could hope for.
If you take that plunge, I wish you luck. If you ever are looking for any advice (I don't know how much wrenching experience you have) feel free to ask. Anyone bringing an old car back to life is a friend of mine!
kevin adkins buy it don't be silly these things are getting rare. or call me I'll buy it.
there are plenty if forums and TH-cam videos if builds. obviously guys that know nothing about cars learn and build their Z at home.whike rebuilding it they learn to weld,by doing it, they learn ,mechanics,by doing it.hell they even learn paint by doing it.
there are plenty examples of guys building a Z that knew nothing ,now they can build another.
I know this might be a bit late but of course it depends on how much you're willing to pay and how much time you're willing to spend on the car. This Datsun has been a lot of work, I'm lucky enough to have FuzzyDice to help me with fixing and storing the vehicle, without that, it'd be near impossible to have a project car like this for me. If you have the room, time, and passion for the car, you should get it. Without that, it'll be difficult to deal with the car, it'll feel like a money suck and an unworthy investment. If you have these things, or a way to make them happen, totally get it. Worth it 100 percent.
Well said! You are a true "car guy"!
Project idea... Install some better lighting in the garage. (led?)
Those yellow lights are horrible!
Actually, very soon after this I did swap all of the garage bulbs out for brighter, more white, LEDs. Helped a lot with filming and matched the color of my LED camera lights much better too.
what bolt kit?
I understand why you chose the original Z engine but I would have gone with an RB25. More modern design and more efficient.
try out "FreeAll" instead of PB blaster, started to use the stuff a few months ago and I am never going back
Hmm, haven't heard of that one before, I'll look into it! Thanks for the tip!
Why didn’t you just pull the only engine out and install the new used engine that you just got and left it at that?
Why are you using a torque wrench to break bolts loose...?
Wildly guessing that it's just an improvised breaker bar, a very expensive one ahah
Why not just rebuild the one you had? It's not that expensive. A re-bore is about $150, Sealed power pistons you can probably find for
All that, plus it needed an ECU and intake manifold and other parts (Sean wanted to get it back to fuel injection), so it was cheaper and easier to just get another engine.
The garage light looks so depressing lol
Omg why not replace with a 2jz?
sad thing is if you spent around less than 100 you could have hot tanked the engine and repainted it and made it look new. why did you not do this?
It wasn't in the time budget, and we were mostly concerned with getting the car working. It is nice to have a good looking engine, but if we went through that effort it might as well get a full rebuild which means more money and time and that engine likely won't stay in the car forever anyway.
Wait a minute....are you guys using a torque wrench as a breaker bar???
The wrench with the orange tape is indeed a torque wrench, but it was left on a high setting for many years and is considerably out of spec. Therefore, I started using it as a long-handled 1/2" ratchet and it is fantastic at the job! The orange tape marks it to make sure nobody actually tries to use it to torque something though.
Fuzzy Dice Projects Haha, all right
Why no LS swap? Its kind of the rule.
When you started to wash it with water i started crying
Haha, what do you wash your engines with? I don't know of anyone, even professional engine rebuilders, who don't at least rinse parts off with water. It is ideal to do it with the short block assembled? No, but it didn't cause any problems.
i use kerosene in a high pressure air gun, hooked onto my compressor.
Whoa, never heard that done before. A bit scary haha, but I'm sure it works like a hot damn!
it melts away grease
Should have at least painted the block while it was stripped.
please wire the cost of rebuild
Why not degrease the block, mask it and shoot it with blue?
1:50, anyone else really expect AC/DC? Than remember that song is copyrighted, lol
The smart phone is your best ally when breaking down this type of engine. Photograph everything before you remove it. Just sayin. Cheers. Gav.
The only issue we had putting it back together was that there were like six different length bolts holding every part on, but that really just took some trial and error haha
But rear main seal
Lol L28 head gaskets are like $60 online...
pick up a spotlight from harbor freight, it will go well with your 8000 dollar camera
Lol, I know, I know. I actually have lights for filming, but it's one of the sacrifices I had to make to actually get this video series made. Would just be too much for me to setup all the time. I got brighter garage interior lights after this, for what that's worth.
Im glad to hear that! That was my only critique from any of your videos. They're fantastic! Just looks like you're working on mars when youre in your garage haha. And I feel the pain of using the phone flashlight for doing work like wiring. More light will make things so much better! Awesome videos and I cant wait to catch up on the rest.
Should put a Chevy small block in it...just saying
How many teeth does the gear wheel have?
Why people still use those god awful frame oil filters is beyond me
Japanese jdm cars classic cools
American classic car
12:05 i have epilepsy problems
Sorry to hear that! It took a while to figure out how to film MIG welding without so much flashing. Don't think it is possible at high frame rates so we gave up on that.
@@FuzzyDiceProjects A flash warning for any other epileptic viewers might be a good idea on future videos. Could save a life.
@@Antiganos For the high speed shot of welding? We don't really do that anymore, largely for that reason. Took a while to figure out what camera settings to use to film welding even at normal speed and not have it come out unpleasant to watch.
yoga pants? WTF!
The song at 1:46 is a major ripoff of TNT and Crazy train.
Here is a picture when she used to be mine!!!! www.cardomain.com/ride/2164739/1978-datsun-280z/
you really hate your torque wrench
SOHC valvetrian soo bad 8 and 10 valve
Ok I'll bite, why did you have your longish thinning curly hair dyed orange like some sort of a divorced clown? :D
So I'm confused. Is there several people running this channel because I watched one video with a white guy. Now there's an Asian guy
I (Mike, white guy) run the channel, but as the Datsun is Sean's (Asian guy) car, he does feature heavily in this series. I am holding the camera making snarky remarks and editing the series still, though.
Okay cool. Because I've been binge watching your videos for 3 days. I have a project car I'm working on right now. Weather hadn't been cooperating
Also didn't mean to sound insensitive. It was just the best way to ask lol
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تنها مزاحم خانواده ام شده اید .
مزاحم تحقیقات شده اید .
رو اعصابم رفته اید ،
از دستتان مریض شدم و فشار خون گرفتم !
So much wrong...🤮🤮