No worries. We're still a loooooooong way from batteries light enough to power 14hrs of work for a 300 horsepower tractor. That detachable cab module? Picture having to cart 6 battery packs the same way, just to get half a day's work done. That's the only way it could happen without building a tractor three times as big and heavy as it needs to be.
One of the biggest challenges for farmers has always been labor. We've had robotic milkers for years, having autonomous tractors is just a natural progression.
You are absolutely right. These tractors are going to be in the middle of nowhere working and run out of charge. What do you do then. You go get your diesel generator to charge the fucker. I think this concept is fucking stupid.
Ya it’s a long ways away from being a threat…. Trust me as a farmer who runs over 5,000 this is a very long long ways away from even helping us out… I’m more worried about giant corporate farmers messing with us 20,000 or less farmers…. It’s becoming a problem. But guess what no one wants to do this job everyone would rather be at home doing a job in their comfy pjs
@@justinmartin8887 When planting season is on you need to go!!! How many units would be needed in the wings while the others charge??? This world of technology has gone bonkers. Not all situations are 'battery better'!!! Geez!!
@@jeffhack6839 right. Which is why we still use diesels at this point. But keep an open mind, because eventually with better tech, electric will be the power. At that point we need to either get with it or fall behind
Steam is even better. Also John Deere is anti-consumer locked down apple grade fad trash these days, late to the party too. These have already existed from better manufacturers and in both diesel and electric formats depending on need.
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and how much environmental damage producing ,charging and disposing of those batteries , no free rides just exchanging one form of pollution for another ,stupid humans SMH
From a modern battery you can expect 2000 circles from 0-100 and back. It has a 1000kwh battery. If your normal workload is 100kw it should last about 20000 hours. So you most likely wouldn't need to replace it. But if you do I'd guess a price tag upward of 150k
A Lil ole tidy biddy satellite on the other side of mars checks seed depth and like usual the thing will last until you are in a bind to get something done and fort Knox will be glad to give you a loan that wont be paid in full till the next one is shot
@@kevinsedo6869 I heard people are already tearing down rain forest to build pounds to produce batteries. These batteries are also a fire hazard, it takes 4x the amount of water to put out a battery fire compared to a conventional engine
I wonder; How many hours batteries runs for? How many hours it takes to recharge? How many solar panels at what size needs to have enough energy to recharge this tractor? Would it work at uphills or downhills too? Would it balance well on Rocky uphills to reach to farms? How often parts needs to be repaired or renewed, such as batteries. If one goes wrong does it effect all? Most importantly HOW MUCH the tractor and the energy stations would cost?
How many years before I have to replace said batteries that will undoubtedly be priced at about half the price of a new robotractor…. Look online at all the Priuses for sale because the batteries are expensive….
Servus I'll try to answer what I can through mathematics, logic and research. 1. the tractor has 1,000 kWh capacity. This corresponds to 100l diesel. However, an electric motor is at least twice as efficient, which gives it a working capacity of 200l - 300l of diesel. The power is 500kW which means that at full power the tractor theoretically works for 2 hours. 2. it depends on the available charging power, or the charging standard and the cell chemistry. Cars (regardless of capacity) can currently be charged from 10% - 80% in ~20 min. Practically, the problem is the grid connection. To achieve this charging power, it would have to deliver 2.1 MW for charging alone. 3. 3. it will probably not work with solar panels alone. You will also need a storage system, as I assume that you will be in the field during the day and will want to charge at night. With storage you need about 500kWp-750kWp of PV power and a 1,000kWh battery if you charge it once a day. (Personally, I would find a battery swap solution charming, but buying two batteries is probably uneconomical). It has 500kW of power which is 680hp. The balance should be ok. 5. i think it can be moved through the terrain similar to a normal tractor. Why not? 6. an electric motor is superior to a diesel. That's why electric motors are used in all stationary applications. They usually last forever. Depending on the cell chemistry, batteries have a life span of 2000-15,000 cycles (1 cycle is 0%-100%. Charge 2x 50% is also 1 cycle) until they reach a capacity of 80%. Batteries are usually grouped into packs and these packs are then replaced when needed. HOW this is done in practice is decided by the manufacturer. Unfortunately, I have not found any information on this. Keep in mind that this is a study. The prices for the batteries are likely to change in the next few years. Don't expect a lower price than for a diesel. hope i could help a bit. Greetings from Upper Bavaria Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
Would've liked to see how fast it could go with the tillage gear working as at the speed it was going it would take all year to work up 1 big cropping farm
people make similar arguments about EV cars, and there are certainly noteworthy examples of serious failures in the news. however the news doesnt mention in these one off stories that 16000 additional drivers died today because of human error.
This is all Well and good and I dare say a lot of people will see this as the future of farming. All I see is one more step to the death of family farms and the rise of the factory farm!!! I will no more get one of these than have an electrical car.
Some of the comments 🤦🏼♂️. The irony that you’re watching and commenting on a video using a phone! 50 years ago, none of you would have believed that was possible and yet here we are!
luddites the lot of them ; ) gladly technological change doesn't care for peoples emotions but happens because of external factors (us needing to decarbonize, and quick, tech advantages because EV r&d just got started, improved cost)
You can't get parts for equipment now can you imagine how difficult it's gonna be for parts from this thing and then on top of it really Long way to go with the technology
The advantage of electric is there isn't really any parts per se. No filters, no transmission, no exhaust system, one computer. I just passed 100k miles on my EV and it hasn't needed any parts yet, other than tires and wiper blades.
Electric equipment has very few parts that need maintenance in the way combustion engines do. No rattling moving parts, no lubrication required. The old days are done. 90% of the comments in this thread are just outdated butthurt.
@@RayoAtra I'm mostly talking about computer parts that's the only stop that breaks consistently on all my equipment Between the equipment and my wood shop I saw a mill and my block yet it's always something to do with electronics
@@RayoAtra I'm needless to say if you can even find the parts I've waited for months to get parts from my saw mill that are made overseas Maybe just maybe I would be more open If the parts were made here in the States If they were so good the new equipment and so few parts how come all the farmers are snatching up all the tractors Prey emissions, And then you have to pay John Deere for their computer software your software yeah doesn't sound like a win win to me
This is cool. No more being beholden to Petrol prices. Just get yourself a huge Wind Power or Solar Array and you are independent of the energy market.
right!? and surely there will be large swappable battery packs that can be used for stationary storage as well, rentals too. It amuses me that most of the comments are total luddites like when they were calling the rail way the devils work or praising horses over cars. It will happen because of labour shortages, the need to decarbonize and cost advantages, not because we've read the room at a rural pub asking people if they'd like to change their way of doing things.
So if it hits a rock or root that binds while plowing does it continue to tear the disks and plow up or does it stop? Autonomous vehicles dont need someone thier with a remote?
Even say a 620hp quadtrac have way to much pulling power for most standard OLD implements say plows that was sturdy enough to stall the engine if you hit a big rock. but most modern eqipment usually have trip sensors that release if you hit somthing to hard. Point is that it realy dont matter what fuel the tractor uses::: diesel-gasoline-electric and so on AS LONG AS IT HAVE ENOUGH OF IT FOR SAY 16-24 HOURS A DAY WORKING TIME, Which isnt unheard of in sowing-harvest season.
No, it doesn't need anyone there with a remote. That's what "autonomous" means. Modern tractors can already cope with sorting out what happens if the plough strikes something, because it turns out that it's not a hard problem to solve.
@@erroneousbosh well it dont matter how modern your tractor is if you use it wrong! i worked on a farm in late 1970s. the farmer had an old 1950s fordson major tractor with 55 hp.. It just stalled and you had to lift the plow if you a rock say bigger than a football that didnt move. the summer 1980 that farmer bought a 180 hp fiat tractor with 4 wheel drive.. but he didnt upgrade the homemade plow. all went fine until he hit a rock that was BIG And the 30 year old plow turnd in to MODERN ART 🤣🤣🤣🤣 The first fabric made plow he then bought had shear bolts. but he replaced that the year after with a plow that had ADJUSTABLE TRIP SPRINGS SO THAT IF SAY 1 SHEAR HIT SOMTHING THAT DIDNT GIVE WAY THAT BLADE TILTED UP. AND WAS RESET BY ANOTHER SPRING AS SOON AS THE PLOW WAS LIFTED.
human labor is outdated, as is labor for survival. The tech is freeing humanity, its trying to pair all these advances with our current outdated economic thinking that creates the concerns. However the solution is to update our thinking, not to stand hopelessly against progress.
@@RayoAtra If that was the case we'd all be sitting back drinking my thighs and being rich are standard of living in the middle class has consistently gone down it's a dead based economy
@@RayoAtra I don't agree with you at all! It takes away jobs income careers and lively hoods. Don't come back and tell me that there are jobs elsewhere because that's also not always true. I'm agree that technology can improve and help make equipment better and more efficient but that human aspect is still required!!! Full autonomous isn't good.
@@RayoAtra eh if humans are just going to sit around because the jobs have been taken by fucking robots, how are they going to make money and live in this disgusting inflated world!? Eh! You fucking tell me that!? How are they going to provide for their families, Provide shelter? The government? A big problem with the world today is people like you and your push for extreme technology.
@@billclifton8400 by this tractor something tells me even John Deere does not know ... Because seeding with this in a narrow weather window would be pain in the ass since it can operate 4 Hours max at 250kw power
@@satunnainenkatselija4478 my guess is like 80hp atleast ... You can count with 50kw ... But who would buy this kind of tractor to use it like this when you can have a 50kw one plus free maintenance and equipment plus free human power for the lifetime of this tractor and still have money left ... (Its like extragating, but you know what i mean) ... Why would you buy it to use like this
@@vratislavrusz9284 If you're seeding you're not running it at maximum power, though, and nowhere near. Your alternator and aircon pump are probably the heaviest load on the engine.
@@MrBusdriver63 That's right, and that will happen at the end of the day when the tractor returns home. That was what the other poster was pointing out, but then a jackass came along and made a stupid comment.
can you think of things in the world with sensors that give feedback to physical change? That type of tech is simpler and cheaper than the vehicle itself,.
Has everyone missed the guy standing there controlling it..?! Bad enough that rare earths from around the planet are stolen to create such "wonderful" advancement. But to stand a bloke there with it kind of ridicules the idea, wouldn't you say? Why not try farming small; that might provide work and health and wellbeing for all. Shit, I forgot... that doesn't matter so long as there's profit to be made!
@@satunnainenkatselija4478 Hi. No, not entirely. But more that we produce locally on small scale farms that are organic in principle and at the pinnacle of aim to support and enhance the soil. This is a huge topic and very hard to compress into just a small reply to a comment. I wonder would you find the time to read "A Small Farm Future" by Chris Smaje and perhaps too, "Oneness Vs the 1%" by Vandana Shiva. In kindness and with respect.🙂
They just don't. 1 I'm sure it's not cheap to buy or rent and cheap to fix. 2 For an average farmer. You'd be in debt for the rest of your life as a farmer buying that... Heck even the state university agriculture department are going broke.. I doubt they can afford and fix it for the students... I just brought a 1974 case 1270 with cab and duals. And it's repaired and being shipped back to the farm. The repair bill ain't cheap for an old tractor. But it'll last me in the long run discing and chisel plowing. It'll do the job for me. No debt on me on the long run.
@@daveklein2826 That's still expensive.. If you're talking a billion dollar corporation agriculture business. You're right on that.. To 99% of the real hardworking majority farmers. It doesn't work. You know why.. because they can't afford it. Even if they can afford it. You got to look at parts and labor fixing it. For electric tractor youre looking at 50,000-100000$ for the repairs. Only the dealer can fix it. And you said it's gonna work. Corn is 6$ a bushel. You could barely cover the repair cost on those new remote electric tractor vs the modern deisal to the 70s deisals with 6$ a bushel.. like I said. You'd be in debt for the rest of your farming career... Billion dollar corporations. No sweat...
Case international had a similar thing back in 2016 but it was just a tractor with no cab but it was all autonomous. I'm pretty sure it became of nothing, cuz never heard about after its debut.
It is very much still in development. We designed it with or without a cab. Electric version as well. Frankly the electric part is easyish. More complex systems are being worked on.
Personally, I say fck the autonomous tractors. The people that are left farm enjoy that part. Dairy robotic milkers on the other hand, find a way to make those baby’s cheaper.
@@connerbrandl5103 yeah. They remove all the pride of accomplishment from a hard day of work. Instead farmers would just be lazy people who just spent a fortune on a robot farmer basically
@@CheeseMiser everyone wants to be lazy, I just know we’re the least lazy, I enjoy the field work waaay more than milking, plus, not too many farmers around here like spending a lot of money.
At that speed we would never get our crop in the ground! The battery would be dead before the day was over and my 10,000 acres would take forever to get seeded! I'll stick to my 5 diesel 4 wheel drive tractors!
Not really a big deal most commercial farming is already done with a ton of automation and gps. It’s not as complex at autonomous cars on the road. Going to come down to cost and can they monitor it similarly to being in a tractor 🚜. Would be interesting to see the current battery life and see it actually working
One of the biggest electric advantages, is you really dont need to replace much. There is no engine, no transmission, no filters, no fuel, no hoses, no pumps, no belts, no need for lubrication etc. Just a couple attic fan motors, batts and controller.
The more complicated something is, the more maintenance it requires and more things to break. Farmers will become computer repairmen, and the quality of our food supply will go down. Sometimes technology is not progress.
Remember the guy in Finland who blew up his Tesla when he found out how much it was going to cost him to replace the batteries. The materials for the batteries have as much of a carbon foot print as the fuel version but no one cares it's green isn't it.
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Maybe it can tow a diesel generator around to charge it while it works ;) The supposed efficiency of an electric motor simply ignores that fact that another engine somewhere was working to charge the battery so it is at least 50% inefficient right off the bat. When are these technocrats going to realize that batteries will never rival chemical energy as a storage system? Wishing it were so ain't gonna make it so.
@@ding9633 Cheaper? We have several 40 and 50+ year old tractors on the farm still going with original diesel engines and other major components. How is this going to be cheaper when the cost of replacing batteries will be more than we have spent on repairs in 50 years?
@@ding9633 no you said it was cheaper but it's really not when you consider batteries are part of the energy and the extra maintenance. Plus it's not logistical anyway because farmers work LOOOONG hours during planting and harvesting within windows of the right weather and soil conditions. Diesel engines can run for days without being shut off, just refuel every 8-12 hours.
@@tomstenzel4271 I don't have a tractor but I have a Chevy Bolt EV. I charge at home and I pay about $1.75 for 100 miles of range. If your ICE car got 30 miles a gallon that's about 3 gallons per 100 miles, which would cost you about $12.00. So which spins faster, my elecric meter or the meter at your gas pump?
Seriously, your out 25 miles from your shop out in the field working. Your tractor is going dead needs charged. I guess you bring out your 50kw diesel generator out to change it all night. Am I missing something here ?
What you don't want to wear out the tires and waist the time Getting it somewhere to charge every night and then back to the field every morning while you lose 2 or 3 hours. I'm sure magic fairies will Provide a way to charge it so it can put in an 18 or 20 hour day Pulling a load that any 200 horse tractor could handle better
@@davidmetzger5986 - get 3 units, a platform tow truck, and a driver... 1 unit in the field, 1 unit on the platform going or coming from the recharge, 1 unit back home charging... it's not like they are expensive or would increase the operating price for the farm :D
Yes, you are missing the inevitable outlawing of diesel by the government asap. Already doing it in Europe and in the very near future in the auto industry. Not long to go.
This company has not only pissed off most of their customers in the U.S. They have part suppliers mad too. I will place odds that this thing was designed & built overseas.
Lets say we are using an average of 200kw (270hp) for 12 hours in order to till our land, thats 200,000watts multiplied by 12 hours, that results in a total of 2,400 kilowatt hours of battery capacity in order to last the whole time, the largest battery on an electric car in production right now is 100kwh, so unless it is 24 times the capacity of that then the battery will not last, this is assuming 100% efficiency with the electric motors and no energy lost through the tyres, drivetrain or through rolling resistance, so how is this viable unless the battery is really that big, but then you get to seeding or tillage when you need to run 24 hours a day, then what?
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After buying this vehicle, will a Farmer then need an additional million dollar charging station. That will be hard to install in country areas. >>>???
think of large high voltage swappable batteries that work in a whole fleet of applications, stationary to capture that roof solar too. Then there's a rental market during times of high demand with on site swaps, maybe autonomous tranport to the fiel too. I only see opportunities (given the fact that we must decarbonize our way of doing thing in every aspect of life within the next 20yrs), maybe we'll adapt our ways of doing things slightly, we've done so before when given proper incentives. And think of the potential in producing large amounts of the energy needed for farming on-site and what that does to keeping the money local.
Good lord. Why??? Do you know how much electricity it’s gonna take to charge that thing overnight or between jobs. And I guarantee you machine costs at least $200,000. I WANT AMERICAN BACK
Pretty impressive showing work in a straight line at a snails pace. Doesn't show how many hours to turn it around for another pass. Looks like a roomba for farmers. Good luck selling them.
@@verovex7723 The research and development of batteries will also be better and better. I believe that the working hours of batteries will increase in the future
This tractor is for lazy people I love the joy of driving and fixing my tractors I like to buy old ones to fix up and use. We have tractors from the 90s and 60s they still can do a full day's work with please. These "tractors" take all the joy out of it and I don't see these things still working on farms 50 years from now, plus jds whole right to repair thing going on rn. Come on this thing sucks and I'm sad I have to live in a time where simple mechanics are replaced by the ugliest pos I've ever seen.
This is great I hate mowing my lawn and if a big machine could do it that would be great. I saw how butchered the little machines do because they are too small and follow the terrain too close. Maybe a big electric tractor isn't practical for most but great for those whom can use it.
There are several companies already producing large scale autonomous mowers. They're cost prohibitive for most property owners. The problem with electric is, batterie powered equipment doesn't scale very well. They do have commercial electric zero turn mowers that can work for 6hrs a day on a single charge with comparable weight to a diesel powered unit... but only on relatively flat terrain.
all this electric powered vehicle stuff is just awesome and absolutely needed but it will be forever before a decent, reliable, relatively cheap and environmentally safe battery(s) are invented. All the electric vehicles being built now are built with little regard to the cost of replacement battery(s) and impact on the environment before and after the batteries are used up. And there are probably dead electric vehicle batteries already piling up some where on the planet now. I'd be willing to bet that nuclear energy will have to be figured into the equation somehow, someday if any real progress will be made. Or how about a flux capacitor????
The greatest challenge is going to be the reliance on imported goods. Whether its the batteries themselves or the commodities needed to make the batteries. The US is not looking so hot from an economic or a geo-political perspective. Chips are already in short supply, and its going to get worse. If things don't change, we'll be closer to stone age than sci-fi.
Like everything else on the trend, this technology has not been evolving naturally for years. If innovation occurred as it naturally would we'd see much better results over time. Unfortunately, thd government has been far too involved in regulation and forcing people to live a certain way while simultaneously, maliciously throwing wrenches in current processes that have been well established for a long time. We are the only ones who suffer while these organizations that haven't earned our hard earned dollars are fed the means to enact the government's dominating authority. All of that becomes absolutely absurd when you factor in China being the real issue on more than one front. But of course, our government that is in bed with them knows best, and we must abide because [insert buzzword].
So at harvest time, when tractors and combines have to run 24 hours a day for a solid week, how can you use this machine? They can’t afford to stop and charge for a half a day plus you could be miles from your barn where you would charge it.
swap batteries, same as we do on jobsites with our fleet of DeWalt tools, just on a bigger HV scale, good for stationary storage from all the rooftop PV too, maybe rental service for times of high demand. Theres gonna be huge savings and a business case for it.
Why is automation always coming up? It's never going to work, imagine leaving this thing to do its thing, but come back 8 hours later after a snooze and find it's been towing something around that's broken and has made an absolute mess of a job? There is always going to have to be a human element to it
Perfect when you don't want to risk a farmer to retrieve a tank.
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I’m a tried and true Deere fan but I’m not sure about this thing!!! Takes all the romance out of playing in the dirt!!!
If you can find people to run your equipment then go for it
It’s optional. You can work or play.
No worries. We're still a loooooooong way from batteries light enough to power 14hrs of work for a 300 horsepower tractor. That detachable cab module? Picture having to cart 6 battery packs the same way, just to get half a day's work done. That's the only way it could happen without building a tractor three times as big and heavy as it needs to be.
@@driverjamescopeland what are you even talking about. It can run 20 hours out of 24 hour day easy. And do it 7 days a week.
This thing is just ugly
One of the biggest challenges for farmers has always been labor. We've had robotic milkers for years, having autonomous tractors is just a natural progression.
If farmers don't see this as a threat, they probably didn't see massive corporate farms as a threat either.
Tbh i love the idea of making tractors electric
They have to become a hell of a lot better before they even get onto farmers radar .
You are absolutely right. These tractors are going to be in the middle of nowhere working and run out of charge. What do you do then. You go get your diesel generator to charge the fucker. I think this concept is fucking stupid.
Ya it’s a long ways away from being a threat…. Trust me as a farmer who runs over 5,000 this is a very long long ways away from even helping us out… I’m more worried about giant corporate farmers messing with us 20,000 or less farmers…. It’s becoming a problem. But guess what no one wants to do this job everyone would rather be at home doing a job in their comfy pjs
@@turtsable I’d rather be driving a tractor but the government won’t let me so pjs it is .
I want to see it working steep ground,and 25% tire wear left.
My thoughts exactly.
Don’t know why that would bother it. Just need to charge quit often
@@justinmartin8887 When planting season is on you need to go!!!
How many units would be needed in the wings while the others charge???
This world of technology has gone bonkers.
Not all situations are 'battery better'!!!
Geez!!
@@jeffhack6839 right. Which is why we still use diesels at this point. But keep an open mind, because eventually with better tech, electric will be the power. At that point we need to either get with it or fall behind
@@justinmartin8887 As I am a man of electricity you have no idea of what will not be.
it still cant beat a good old raw diesel engine
Steam is even better. Also John Deere is anti-consumer locked down apple grade fad trash these days, late to the party too. These have already existed from better manufacturers and in both diesel and electric formats depending on need.
@@kishascape exactly what im saying electric would be a setback at this point
It will.
No, no and no , what is this world coming too ??
Perfect. Tills/disc's one row and back to the charging station. Sounds about right
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Wow. That thing almost moves as fast as a snail.
thats not a race car. its not about speed
@@sultanamuptela815 Yeah but I don’t want that my tractor come back after 2 days of plughing a 30 acre field and a long car tail down the road
A couple of things here: who checks the seed depth when planting? How many years do the batteries last? What do replacements cost?
Dunno but you can guarantee that a farmer cannot repair it.
and how much environmental damage producing ,charging and disposing of those batteries , no free rides just exchanging one form of pollution for another ,stupid humans SMH
From a modern battery you can expect 2000 circles from 0-100 and back. It has a 1000kwh battery. If your normal workload is 100kw it should last about 20000 hours. So you most likely wouldn't need to replace it. But if you do I'd guess a price tag upward of 150k
A Lil ole tidy biddy satellite on the other side of mars checks seed depth and like usual the thing will last until you are in a bind to get something done and fort Knox will be glad to give you a loan that wont be paid in full till the next one is shot
@@kevinsedo6869 I heard people are already tearing down rain forest to build pounds to produce batteries. These batteries are also a fire hazard, it takes 4x the amount of water to put out a battery fire compared to a conventional engine
I wonder;
How many hours batteries runs for?
How many hours it takes to recharge?
How many solar panels at what size needs to have enough energy to recharge this tractor?
Would it work at uphills or downhills too?
Would it balance well on Rocky uphills to reach to farms?
How often parts needs to be repaired or renewed, such as batteries. If one goes wrong does it effect all?
Most importantly HOW MUCH the tractor and the energy stations would cost?
And how rich China and our politicians are going to get off all this EV crap. Smart move. Let's put our entire existence in the hands of China.
2 minute hahahahahahahaha
How many years before I have to replace said batteries that will undoubtedly be priced at about half the price of a new robotractor…. Look online at all the Priuses for sale because the batteries are expensive….
How many hours does it take to charge them ?
Servus
I'll try to answer what I can through mathematics, logic and research.
1. the tractor has 1,000 kWh capacity. This corresponds to 100l diesel. However, an electric motor is at least twice as efficient, which gives it a working capacity of 200l - 300l of diesel.
The power is 500kW which means that at full power the tractor theoretically works for 2 hours.
2. it depends on the available charging power, or the charging standard and the cell chemistry. Cars (regardless of capacity) can currently be charged from 10% - 80% in ~20 min. Practically, the problem is the grid connection. To achieve this charging power, it would have to deliver 2.1 MW for charging alone. 3.
3. it will probably not work with solar panels alone. You will also need a storage system, as I assume that you will be in the field during the day and will want to charge at night.
With storage you need about 500kWp-750kWp of PV power and a 1,000kWh battery if you charge it once a day. (Personally, I would find a battery swap solution charming, but buying two batteries is probably uneconomical).
It has 500kW of power which is 680hp. The balance should be ok.
5. i think it can be moved through the terrain similar to a normal tractor. Why not?
6. an electric motor is superior to a diesel. That's why electric motors are used in all stationary applications. They usually last forever. Depending on the cell chemistry, batteries have a life span of 2000-15,000 cycles (1 cycle is 0%-100%. Charge 2x 50% is also 1 cycle) until they reach a capacity of 80%.
Batteries are usually grouped into packs and these packs are then replaced when needed. HOW this is done in practice is decided by the manufacturer.
Unfortunately, I have not found any information on this. Keep in mind that this is a study. The prices for the batteries are likely to change in the next few years. Don't expect a lower price than for a diesel.
hope i could help a bit.
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That cab would get pretty hot with no air conditioning!
The cab may have its own ac and heat systems.
That's exactly what I was thinking. And if it does have it's own electrical system, that's just going to be one more thing to maintain and charge.
Would've liked to see how fast it could go with the tillage gear working as at the speed it was going it would take all year to work up 1 big cropping farm
It would take 2 years . One years worth of work the other would be time spent recharging .
I was thinking the same thing. High speed tillage equipment at low speed.
How long before one has a program glitch and it takes out half a mile of fence?
It probably will stop automatically if any malfunctions
I don’t need a glitch to do that . 😂
people make similar arguments about EV cars, and there are certainly noteworthy examples of serious failures in the news. however the news doesnt mention in these one off stories that 16000 additional drivers died today because of human error.
@@RayoAtra covid ?
This is all Well and good and I dare say a lot of people will see this as the future of farming.
All I see is one more step to the death of family farms and the rise of the factory farm!!!
I will no more get one of these than have an electrical car.
LMAO, family farms can't find employees so nice try Skippy
@@daveklein2826 most of the time the family themselves are the employees, Skippy
@@gabethomas3190 and they can't keep up.... SKIPPY
You can pay more for an inferior product.
human labor is no longer competitive and it never will be again. Its time for the romance of work to end.
Some of the comments 🤦🏼♂️. The irony that you’re watching and commenting on a video using a phone! 50 years ago, none of you would have believed that was possible and yet here we are!
luddites the lot of them ; ) gladly technological change doesn't care for peoples emotions but happens because of external factors (us needing to decarbonize, and quick, tech advantages because EV r&d just got started, improved cost)
You can't get parts for equipment now can you imagine how difficult it's gonna be for parts from this thing and then on top of it really Long way to go with the technology
Imagine the repair bill on this thing when it goes down
The advantage of electric is there isn't really any parts per se. No filters, no transmission, no exhaust system, one computer. I just passed 100k miles on my EV and it hasn't needed any parts yet, other than tires and wiper blades.
Electric equipment has very few parts that need maintenance in the way combustion engines do. No rattling moving parts, no lubrication required. The old days are done. 90% of the comments in this thread are just outdated butthurt.
@@RayoAtra I'm mostly talking about computer parts that's the only stop that breaks consistently on all my equipment
Between the equipment and my wood shop I saw a mill and my block yet it's always something to do with electronics
@@RayoAtra I'm needless to say if you can even find the parts I've waited for months to get parts from my saw mill that are made overseas Maybe just maybe I would be more open If the parts were made here in the States
If they were so good the new equipment and so few parts how come all the farmers are snatching up all the tractors Prey emissions, And then you have to pay John Deere for their computer software your software yeah doesn't sound like a win win to me
I'm sure Brandon will love this
Some implements need to run at speeds of 10-13 mph for proper tillage.
This exactly what the world doesn't need!!
id prefer to see this is in FS2022 than in real life, it looks like my refrigerator.
This is cool. No more being beholden to Petrol prices. Just get yourself a huge Wind Power or Solar Array and you are independent of the energy market.
right!? and surely there will be large swappable battery packs that can be used for stationary storage as well, rentals too. It amuses me that most of the comments are total luddites like when they were calling the rail way the devils work or praising horses over cars. It will happen because of labour shortages, the need to decarbonize and cost advantages, not because we've read the room at a rural pub asking people if they'd like to change their way of doing things.
*watches video*
*dies of laughter*
*continues to try and fix a starter solenoid of a 45 year old White by staring at it*
Farmers should unite and prevent a.I from ever taking their jobs
the tractor looks like a rare lego piece
So if it hits a rock or root that binds while plowing does it continue to tear the disks and plow up or does it stop? Autonomous vehicles dont need someone thier with a remote?
Even say a 620hp quadtrac have way to much pulling power for most standard OLD implements say plows that was sturdy enough to stall the engine if you hit a big rock.
but most modern eqipment usually have trip sensors that release if you hit somthing to hard.
Point is that it realy dont matter what fuel the tractor uses::: diesel-gasoline-electric and so on
AS LONG AS IT HAVE ENOUGH OF IT FOR SAY 16-24 HOURS A DAY WORKING TIME, Which isnt unheard of in sowing-harvest season.
No, it doesn't need anyone there with a remote. That's what "autonomous" means.
Modern tractors can already cope with sorting out what happens if the plough strikes something, because it turns out that it's not a hard problem to solve.
@@erroneousbosh well it dont matter how modern your tractor is if you use it wrong! i worked on a farm in late 1970s.
the farmer had an old 1950s fordson major tractor with 55 hp..
It just stalled and you had to lift the plow if you a rock say bigger than a football that didnt move.
the summer 1980 that farmer bought a 180 hp fiat tractor with 4 wheel drive..
but he didnt upgrade the homemade plow.
all went fine until he hit a rock that was BIG And the 30 year old plow turnd in to MODERN ART 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The first fabric made plow he then bought had shear bolts. but he replaced that the year after with a plow that had ADJUSTABLE TRIP SPRINGS SO THAT IF SAY 1 SHEAR HIT SOMTHING THAT DIDNT GIVE WAY THAT BLADE TILTED UP. AND WAS RESET BY ANOTHER SPRING AS SOON AS THE PLOW WAS LIFTED.
Blows my mind that people see this as a good thing. This is not a good thing. Technology is going/as gone to far.
human labor is outdated, as is labor for survival. The tech is freeing humanity, its trying to pair all these advances with our current outdated economic thinking that creates the concerns. However the solution is to update our thinking, not to stand hopelessly against progress.
@@RayoAtra If that was the case we'd all be sitting back drinking my thighs and being rich are standard of living in the middle class has consistently gone down it's a dead based economy
@@RayoAtra I don't agree with you at all! It takes away jobs income careers and lively hoods. Don't come back and tell me that there are jobs elsewhere because that's also not always true. I'm agree that technology can improve and help make equipment better and more efficient but that human aspect is still required!!! Full autonomous isn't good.
@@RayoAtra eh if humans are just going to sit around because the jobs have been taken by fucking robots, how are they going to make money and live in this disgusting inflated world!? Eh! You fucking tell me that!? How are they going to provide for their families, Provide shelter? The government? A big problem with the world today is people like you and your push for extreme technology.
Essential a more fun version of a rc car
will it work 750 hours straight [seeding] without turning it off davi
No way ...
Most people have no idea the kind of hours farmers work and the idea of getting the crops in the ground or harvested in a window of the right weather.
@@billclifton8400 by this tractor something tells me even John Deere does not know ... Because seeding with this in a narrow weather window would be pain in the ass since it can operate 4 Hours max at 250kw power
@@satunnainenkatselija4478 my guess is like 80hp atleast ... You can count with 50kw ... But who would buy this kind of tractor to use it like this when you can have a 50kw one plus free maintenance and equipment plus free human power for the lifetime of this tractor and still have money left ... (Its like extragating, but you know what i mean) ... Why would you buy it to use like this
@@vratislavrusz9284 If you're seeding you're not running it at maximum power, though, and nowhere near. Your alternator and aircon pump are probably the heaviest load on the engine.
what happens when your sprayer has a blocked nozzle ??
you clean it out,mate....lol
same thing you do now, other than one guy can service 100 nozzles a day as he isnt required to do anything else. what a complete strawman comment.
@@MrBusdriver63 How can you when the tractor doesn't have an operator? What do you think the word "autonomous" means?
@@jimdent351 One thing is for sure being, Autonomous I can guarantee you one thing, the nozzle will remain until you clean it !
@@MrBusdriver63 That's right, and that will happen at the end of the day when the tractor returns home. That was what the other poster was pointing out, but then a jackass came along and made a stupid comment.
At least you could charge it off of A PTO generator while it's running in the field the field lol
Ha. Good one
... this completely solves all the farming related problems in our society today .... BRAVO ... !!
Use it for 4 hours then back to the coal fired charging station👌👌
Still more cost and energy efficient than burning diesel in an engine in the tractor
@@ding9633 not gettin much done sittin at a charging station! Time is money cowboy!!👍
Why are we working so hard to make humans obsolete?
Is it going to tell you when you break a plow point, or a mold board?
can you think of things in the world with sensors that give feedback to physical change? That type of tech is simpler and cheaper than the vehicle itself,.
Has everyone missed the guy standing there controlling it..?! Bad enough that rare earths from around the planet are stolen to create such "wonderful" advancement. But to stand a bloke there with it kind of ridicules the idea, wouldn't you say?
Why not try farming small; that might provide work and health and wellbeing for all.
Shit, I forgot... that doesn't matter so long as there's profit to be made!
You only stand there to pull it out of barn and then you program it for what ever you want.
@@vinny5518 cool, thank you.
@@satunnainenkatselija4478
Hi. No, not entirely. But more that we produce locally on small scale farms that are organic in principle and at the pinnacle of aim to support and enhance the soil. This is a huge topic and very hard to compress into just a small reply to a comment. I wonder would you find the time to read "A Small Farm Future" by Chris Smaje and perhaps too, "Oneness Vs the 1%" by Vandana Shiva.
In kindness and with respect.🙂
There are 8 billion people.
@@snarkylive yes, there are. That's 16 billion pairs of hands to learn to provide for themselves. Imagine...🤔
Super dann sitzt man stumpfsinnig am feldrand und überwacht den schlepper dann kann ich auch selber fahren oder mit fahren
Interesting but long way to go. They will get there just like how far we have come just in the 50 plus years I've been alive.
Reality... Electric tractors just don't work..
Show your proof
They just don't. 1 I'm sure it's not cheap to buy or rent and cheap to fix. 2 For an average farmer. You'd be in debt for the rest of your life as a farmer buying that... Heck even the state university agriculture department are going broke.. I doubt they can afford and fix it for the students... I just brought a 1974 case 1270 with cab and duals. And it's repaired and being shipped back to the farm. The repair bill ain't cheap for an old tractor. But it'll last me in the long run discing and chisel plowing. It'll do the job for me. No debt on me on the long run.
@@meateaterwhitetail7291 yes , that's you, not a larger farmer with more than 29 acres
@@daveklein2826 That's still expensive.. If you're talking a billion dollar corporation agriculture business. You're right on that.. To 99% of the real hardworking majority farmers. It doesn't work. You know why.. because they can't afford it. Even if they can afford it. You got to look at parts and labor fixing it. For electric tractor youre looking at 50,000-100000$ for the repairs. Only the dealer can fix it. And you said it's gonna work. Corn is 6$ a bushel. You could barely cover the repair cost on those new remote electric tractor vs the modern deisal to the 70s deisals with 6$ a bushel.. like I said. You'd be in debt for the rest of your farming career... Billion dollar corporations. No sweat...
@@meateaterwhitetail7291 keep showing your IGNORANCE
I never would think they would come out with a tractor like this.....🚜 🚜 🚜 🚜
Case international had a similar thing back in 2016 but it was just a tractor with no cab but it was all autonomous. I'm pretty sure it became of nothing, cuz never heard about after its debut.
That was a design that was used to get reactions from people. It was never designed to be a full working model.
It is very much still in development. We designed it with or without a cab. Electric version as well. Frankly the electric part is easyish. More complex systems are being worked on.
Personally, I say fck the autonomous tractors. The people that are left farm enjoy that part. Dairy robotic milkers on the other hand, find a way to make those baby’s cheaper.
@@connerbrandl5103 yeah. They remove all the pride of accomplishment from a hard day of work. Instead farmers would just be lazy people who just spent a fortune on a robot farmer basically
@@CheeseMiser everyone wants to be lazy, I just know we’re the least lazy, I enjoy the field work waaay more than milking, plus, not too many farmers around here like spending a lot of money.
Cool.
But unless JD allows right-to-repair then forget it.
Farmers will do anything for a government subsidy
just building that thing will cause more pollution than 5 diesel tractors.
At that speed we would never get our crop in the ground! The battery would be dead before the day was over and my 10,000 acres would take forever to get seeded! I'll stick to my 5 diesel 4 wheel drive tractors!
If it cost 20K to replace the battery in a Tesla, what is it going to cost in this?
500k
And hope like hell the battery doesn't catch on fire.
Current battery costs are around $120 per kwh so its around $120,000
Not a problem. Food prices and wages will go up to cover the costs.
A car needs to have a high power to weight ratio battery. A machine like this can use heavy batteries
Cuantos trabajadores quedaran sin empleo por este invento 😪
Not really a big deal most commercial farming is already done with a ton of automation and gps. It’s not as complex at autonomous cars on the road. Going to come down to cost and can they monitor it similarly to being in a tractor 🚜. Would be interesting to see the current battery life and see it actually working
When it gets hung up, I’m sure the terminator will come and pull the heavy robotractor out, right??? Why is it so top heavy?
batteries, lots of batteries.
As long as there is Diesel on this planet I’m using that instead Electric 😒
I can't imagine getting that thing stuck in a field! And how would you get parts nowadays!?!
One of the biggest electric advantages, is you really dont need to replace much. There is no engine, no transmission, no filters, no fuel, no hoses, no pumps, no belts, no need for lubrication etc. Just a couple attic fan motors, batts and controller.
"Tractors as a service"
you won;t need parts when you don;t actually own anything.
Big Deere fan but it doesn't impress me!
Why didn't they show it turning at the end of the row?
Most impressive, I started my engineering career building tractors. Now retired just shows how things have progressed.
As a farmer, this thing is absolute garbage
The more complicated something is, the more maintenance it requires and more things to break. Farmers will become computer repairmen, and the quality of our food supply will go down. Sometimes technology is not progress.
Remember the guy in Finland who blew up his Tesla when he found out how much it was going to cost him to replace the batteries. The materials for the batteries have as much of a carbon foot print as the fuel version but no one cares it's green isn't it.
Ur too correct. Wake up inform and enlighten all you neighbors, community, friends and family. National power grid cant handle demand now. Its about control. K o n t r o l by beaurecrates and corporations
🙏🇺🇸🙏🤔👍🤯
Maybe it can tow a diesel generator around to charge it while it works ;) The supposed efficiency of an electric motor simply ignores that fact that another engine somewhere was working to charge the battery so it is at least 50% inefficient right off the bat.
When are these technocrats going to realize that batteries will never rival chemical energy as a storage system? Wishing it were so ain't gonna make it so.
Running a machine that was charged off the grid is cheaper and more energy efficient than running a diesel in the tractor.
@@ding9633 Cheaper? We have several 40 and 50+ year old tractors on the farm still going with original diesel engines and other major components. How is this going to be cheaper when the cost of replacing batteries will be more than we have spent on repairs in 50 years?
@@billclifton8400 Why you asking me? I'm only referring to the energy used to power the machine.
@@ding9633 no you said it was cheaper but it's really not when you consider batteries are part of the energy and the extra maintenance. Plus it's not logistical anyway because farmers work LOOOONG hours during planting and harvesting within windows of the right weather and soil conditions. Diesel engines can run for days without being shut off, just refuel every 8-12 hours.
@@billclifton8400 We're in total agreement.
the NEXT version is SUPER crazy! i hear that they actually MOUNT the cab TO the tractor!!! wow! what will they think of next !?!?!
I would never get one of these it's so much more fun when I the driver is in control of my tractor.
Absolutely ridiculous 😂
So it could cover 1000 acres in what ….6 months 🤪
I'd like to see how fast that electric meter is spinning when it is charging.
Around here they put solar panels on chicken houses. You would be shock on which way it would spin.
Not near as fast as the meter on your diesel tank when you fill you ICE tractor.
@@jamesashurst HUH?????
@@tomstenzel4271 I don't have a tractor but I have a Chevy Bolt EV. I charge at home and I pay about $1.75 for 100 miles of range. If your ICE car got 30 miles a gallon that's about 3 gallons per 100 miles, which would cost you about $12.00. So which spins faster, my elecric meter or the meter at your gas pump?
@@jamesashurst what produces the electricity to charge your car?????
It made two passes on a 2 acre patch and needed a recharge. 🤣😂
Seriously, your out 25 miles from your shop out in the field working. Your tractor is going dead needs charged. I guess you bring out your 50kw diesel generator out to change it all night. Am I missing something here ?
it's probably more like with drones: once they recognize low battery they return to home to avoid bigger trouble ;-)
Just pop some bio diesel in your generator and put 10% charge to get it home, then it's still renewable energy.
What you don't want to wear out the tires and waist the time Getting it somewhere to charge every night and then back to the field every morning while you lose 2 or 3 hours. I'm sure magic fairies will Provide a way to charge it so it can put in an 18 or 20 hour day Pulling a load that any 200 horse tractor could handle better
@@davidmetzger5986 - get 3 units, a platform tow truck, and a driver... 1 unit in the field, 1 unit on the platform going or coming from the recharge, 1 unit back home charging... it's not like they are expensive or would increase the operating price for the farm :D
Yes, you are missing the inevitable outlawing of diesel by the government asap. Already doing it in Europe and in the very near future in the auto industry. Not long to go.
This company has not only pissed off most of their customers in the U.S. They have part suppliers mad too. I will place odds that this thing was designed & built overseas.
now this is hilarious, how long to do 10,000 acres? looks like it should work well in my garden
I tought it was photoshop 😅
People on this thread trying to talk down on something are the same folks that didn't want to give up a horse. They will be the ones behind.
spectacular, I want one! how much?
Takin all the fun out, who is gonna go get it when it is stuck to the axle in deep mud? Guess you'll need a autonomous tow vehicle to right?
Lets say we are using an average of 200kw (270hp) for 12 hours in order to till our land, thats 200,000watts multiplied by 12 hours, that results in a total of 2,400 kilowatt hours of battery capacity in order to last the whole time, the largest battery on an electric car in production right now is 100kwh, so unless it is 24 times the capacity of that then the battery will not last, this is assuming 100% efficiency with the electric motors and no energy lost through the tyres, drivetrain or through rolling resistance, so how is this viable unless the battery is really that big, but then you get to seeding or tillage when you need to run 24 hours a day, then what?
hmmmm....it looks like my fucking refrigerator.....
I wonder if this thing has an ice cube maker in it.
LMFAO
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Piece of junk designed by some rookie that spends all night playing video games
After buying this vehicle, will a Farmer then need an additional million dollar charging station. That will be hard to install in country areas. >>>???
think of large high voltage swappable batteries that work in a whole fleet of applications, stationary to capture that roof solar too. Then there's a rental market during times of high demand with on site swaps, maybe autonomous tranport to the fiel too. I only see opportunities (given the fact that we must decarbonize our way of doing thing in every aspect of life within the next 20yrs), maybe we'll adapt our ways of doing things slightly, we've done so before when given proper incentives. And think of the potential in producing large amounts of the energy needed for farming on-site and what that does to keeping the money local.
does it phone the dealer autonomously too
Sure does! AS IF the mega corp wouldn;t farm the data from this!
Oo
NEXT LVL................................................
They need to put a couple arms on the front of it - Then send it out to harvest some Tiberium.
Good lord. Why??? Do you know how much electricity it’s gonna take to charge that thing overnight or between jobs. And I guarantee you machine costs at least $200,000.
I WANT AMERICAN BACK
How long does it take to charge the batteries with the barn outlet?
Half a year minimum
What John Deere is already doing to farmers is dispicable, this is another slap to the face.
At least they still make SOME of their mowers in the US. /s
What an absolute joke of a company.
İlahi çocuklar siz bir dehasınız 👍👍🤔🤔
Looks like we're taking all the fun out of farm'n.
is the tractor. FREE!!!
No thanx
I want to see the 8 series bonnet in front of me
I want to see it travel more the 3 mph with a 50 ft chisel. Our even move🤦♂️
I’m literally working my a$$ off just to buy an old tractor and have fun in the fields #tractortherapy but why would anyone buy this I don’t get it
Pretty impressive showing work in a straight line at a snails pace. Doesn't show how many hours to turn it around for another pass. Looks like a roomba for farmers. Good luck selling them.
Why da fak do you need a big fancy cab to bring it to the field, just give me a seat and a steering wheel lol
Thank you god 🙏
Wow an hour (maybe) and a 10 foot swath. Tgen plug it in and hope the windmill is spinning and the sun is shining.
This will greatly improve work efficiency and reduce people's workload, which will be the way we cultivate land in the near future
Fack off mate 🤣 the whole idea of farming is having fun driving a tractor and here you come in and say this will reduce people’s workload?🤦🏻♂️🤣
that giant of a battery isn't gonna be like refueling. it'll take like 6 hours to charge if that
@@bekabeka71 Ha ha, happy work is also a kind of entertainment, isn't it
@@verovex7723 The research and development of batteries will also be better and better. I believe that the working hours of batteries will increase in the future
This tractor is for lazy people I love the joy of driving and fixing my tractors I like to buy old ones to fix up and use. We have tractors from the 90s and 60s they still can do a full day's work with please. These "tractors" take all the joy out of it and I don't see these things still working on farms 50 years from now, plus jds whole right to repair thing going on rn. Come on this thing sucks and I'm sad I have to live in a time where simple mechanics are replaced by the ugliest pos I've ever seen.
Bit slow, excellent concept. 👌
You ain't a farmer. This thing is horrible in every way
Can't wait to see this in the FS22 Mod Section
This is great I hate mowing my lawn and if a big machine could do it that would be great. I saw how butchered the little machines do because they are too small and follow the terrain too close. Maybe a big electric tractor isn't practical for most but great for those whom can use it.
There are several companies already producing large scale autonomous mowers. They're cost prohibitive for most property owners. The problem with electric is, batterie powered equipment doesn't scale very well. They do have commercial electric zero turn mowers that can work for 6hrs a day on a single charge with comparable weight to a diesel powered unit... but only on relatively flat terrain.
all this electric powered vehicle stuff is just awesome and absolutely needed but it will be forever before a decent, reliable, relatively cheap and environmentally safe battery(s) are invented. All the electric vehicles being built now are built with little regard to the cost of replacement battery(s) and impact on the environment before and after the batteries are used up. And there are probably dead electric vehicle batteries already piling up some where on the planet now. I'd be willing to bet that nuclear energy will have to be figured into the equation somehow, someday if any real progress will be made. Or how about a flux capacitor????
The greatest challenge is going to be the reliance on imported goods. Whether its the batteries themselves or the commodities needed to make the batteries. The US is not looking so hot from an economic or a geo-political perspective. Chips are already in short supply, and its going to get worse. If things don't change, we'll be closer to stone age than sci-fi.
anyone else getting death stranding vibes from this?
Yeah nah having a competent operator will win out because said operator can monitor things better.
Like everything else on the trend, this technology has not been evolving naturally for years. If innovation occurred as it naturally would we'd see much better results over time. Unfortunately, thd government has been far too involved in regulation and forcing people to live a certain way while simultaneously, maliciously throwing wrenches in current processes that have been well established for a long time. We are the only ones who suffer while these organizations that haven't earned our hard earned dollars are fed the means to enact the government's dominating authority.
All of that becomes absolutely absurd when you factor in China being the real issue on more than one front. But of course, our government that is in bed with them knows best, and we must abide because [insert buzzword].
So at harvest time, when tractors and combines have to run 24 hours a day for a solid week, how can you use this machine? They can’t afford to stop and charge for a half a day plus you could be miles from your barn where you would charge it.
swap batteries, same as we do on jobsites with our fleet of DeWalt tools, just on a bigger HV scale, good for stationary storage from all the rooftop PV too, maybe rental service for times of high demand. Theres gonna be huge savings and a business case for it.
i can only imagine the price tags on that stuff !!!
Why is automation always coming up? It's never going to work, imagine leaving this thing to do its thing, but come back 8 hours later after a snooze and find it's been towing something around that's broken and has made an absolute mess of a job? There is always going to have to be a human element to it