I Will No Longer Use Kurt's Card Care And Here Is Why - Ep.69
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The only reason that card was deactivated was because the cleaning was done on video, which was bought to PSA's attention well AFTER the fact that they graded it.
So in other words, PSA detected nothing wrong with that card in the first place, else they would have rejected it initially. Instead, they found nothing wrong with it, they autthenticated it, gave it a HIGHER grade, and slabbed it. If anything, THAT alone tells me that Kurts Card care absolutely works and does not do anything detrimental to the card, nor does it violate any grading criteria, else PSA would have rejected it in the first place.
People act like Kurt is the sole person doing this ie., cleaning/restoring etc, and that it is a recent thing. When the reality is that it has probably been done forever, with much crazier methods, behind closed doors, and by thousands of people. For all we know, a large portion of PSA, SGC etc., graded cards have been "cleaned"- in fact it is a guranteed certainty that many slabbed cards out there have been through some sort of restoring process similar to kurts care.
After all, didn't PSA also deactive the rest of the cards in that order? Which means that ALL of the cards in that order PASSED and got graded, and that PSA did not detect anything wrong with those cards either. So if he never shared the video of that card, then that card and the rest of that order would be out there and no one would even have the slightest clue.
I look at this situation with Kurt the other way, in that it is a huge WIN for him and his products, as PSA just acknowledged that they cannot detect anything wrong with cards that use his products. THAT is a ringing endorsement that Kurts Card Care works and works well within PSA's guidelines of authentictaion.
I think of baseball cards as art. And people have great Art restored. And that art is still a masterpiece. If you can restore a 1965 Mickey Mantle than why not. Guys you decided but if I can take creases out than why not.
@@JC-pu7gi Good point of view. No heart on this one...
Rules are rules and PSA made it clear where they stand...no one is attacking the man here so...
@@TheCarolinaCollectorit’s just a weird stance and feels extremely hypocritical
PSA never deactivated anything Kurt said it was all rumors anyways. You can tell Kurt is a good guy. I bought one of His kits recently and I’m ok w the results.
sorry do not agree with you, that is ok, i will keep kurts, for if psa can not tell, that is good enough for me.
You might want to read PSA's new terms that dropped.
1- psa didnt reject it at the point of grading
2- youre ok with putting wood polish on cards but not this?
Wtf 😅
@@DUKEBLADE 1-PSA won't allow any more crap
2-Did you watch any of my recent videos where I said "I don't use anything except a microfibre cloth"
3-No group or individual owns the hobby
4-What makes you the obvious gatekeeper that you are? F**k gatekeepers.
no hate - so its not ok to use Kurts but its ok to spray them with wood furniture spray? How is that not the same.? Just asking, new to collecting
It is mostly to get fingerprints and dust off of certain cards. Lately I'll use furniture polish as an absolute last resort...
Great guy you are. Being very honest goes a long way. Get away from the east coast humidity my friend. Come to AZ . This is better for your lungs. Thanks for the video and knowledge
I have a question, PSA just released that they are doing a PSA 10 Prep thing that you can pay $15 and they will prep your card for you, do you think they are only using a microfiber to justify charging you $15, I think not, it is my belief they are using items similar to Kurt's, I said this a month ago when PSA attacked Kurt that PSA would develope their own or hire someone to develope something similar and claim it's safer than Kurt's,
From my experience cleaning off track marks, it is inevitable that you will need to use some sort of agent to remove said marks. I think it's a money-making sceme like their new game worn cards.
@@TheCarolinaCollector They are 100% restoring cards
Microfibre is still altering, it removes and alters in my book, very fine sandpaper
@@scottyboy6269 then you know nothing about surfaces.
I love me a good rant! I have some products I am going to try while recording it and put it on my channel. I am curious of what products work and what doesn't. I am sure I will get some support and some hate. Such is life when you give your opinion. Don't be just a guy, be a biological guy! Love it.
I did not like seeing Kurts card bubbling on the video. That showed it was some type of chemical.
But other than that I think what he does is fine. Water, humidity, and manipulation on a card are not altering the card. Polishing doesn't remove creases.
If he had his ingredients listed, people wouldnt be upset. Ive been collecting cards forever and clean them when needed. Is it wrong to wash your car before you sell it?? I have never read the ingredients to products i use on my vehicles before i wax or wash lol. Wtf is the deal. I never knew of Kurts guy but went and watched vids. Seems like a dude trying to make it man. People are upset because they dont know ingredients to replicate. Its crazy how well knock the little guy down but throw our hard earned money at the big business who we know we are rolling the dice with, and screws us more often than not. Rather help build, than knock down if you ask me.
Tell that to PSA
Nobody ever talks about how shitty some cards come out of the press with panini, for example, but Kurts methods are not received well and "it's card altering." How's about we start holding these card companies accountable. You know, the ones we pay a shit ton of money to and all they do is not have quality control? This guy is unbelievable.
Kinda like this guy ngl. I’m pro use of the card care but I’m scare of using it on high end vintage. Literally just to make cards look better & sharper & get a higher grade. More than likely will all be pc items but I’d hate it if they come back altered bcuz I soaked in kurtscardcare
What?? What is this video about? Your all over the place bud
I'm famous
@@TheCarolinaCollector WHAT??
I've never heard of this dude.
No one of cares about you're good life or not. With all do respect It sounds like you had the "im going to use this, but i dont want to look bad now, so I'll just stop using it" type of thought. Let's be 1 million percent honest. If PSA or anyone else would have not mentioned anything whatsoever, you would have never ever changed your mind. If psa says they won't accept this, all of a sudden, you dont want to use it? Yeah, it's a little hypocritical. You said it yourself "theres too much controversy with it." Now, let's change my mind right 🙄. I see you changing your mind again, based on "evidence"
Yep, you figured me out...lol.
In all fairness, it is good to be objective. However, if I may, bare metal will oxidize with nothing on it. So I am not sure your experiment will tell you anything. Furthermore, your furniture polish is acidic. So there’s that. At the end of the day, you can get a chemical analysis done at a lab. It will tell you everything that is in these products.
People need to remember that with anything it is how you apply the products. I believe certain applications with this stuff should be fine and non detectable. While others will obviously lead to detection. PSA and other grading companies are concerned if these products have long term ramifications because they have to stand by their grades. It is my understanding/opinion that as long as you aren’t using anything with fillers as well using DI water or IPA to remove any polish/wax residue, the card should be fine and stand the test of time.
I have been a surface technician/detailer for many years. A lot of collectors do not have the same background as I do in understanding the technology behind waxes and polishes/compounds. I think a lot of this hooplah is driven by a lot of misunderstanding and misguided opinions of many in the industry.
Either way to each their own.
Who is this guy...? He's taking out of both sides of his mouth
And who are you exactly?
Whatever you do don’t ignore the labels on the furniture polish. Furniture cleaners utilize lemon or citrus oils and or alcohols.
He has 682 subs man. He's famous AF. He makes me want to buy kurts card care now tbh.
What is your link to your eBay store ? The care you take I rather buy the raw from you .
Since I don't trust TH-cam, seach for "thecarolinacollector001" on Ebay. My avatar is the same...
@@TheCarolinaCollector thank you will be checking out your Trout raw cards
@@svenpatrick1637 Any time my friend...I'll be dropping more cards when I have some time so keep an eye out.
Rubbing alcohol and water in the spray bottle. I can tell how it bubbles when kurt soaked the card.
I am having trouble finding you on eBay. Please help me out. Thank you.
Every video has a link to my Ebay store but here you go...www.ebay.com/usr/thecarolinacollector001
@@TheCarolinaCollector I see it now. Sorry. Thank youy
Soap is basic not acidic. Not sure if this changes anything
Thought the same thing watching the vid.
Soap does contain fatty acids however which is used to neutralize the base ingrediends. Technically we are all correct.
Appreciate the fact that you’re remaining objective. I’m certainly guilty of being a bit too reactionary at the beginning of this whole controversy. My viewpoint nowadays centers around disclosure. If people want to clean/soak their cards for their personal PC, I see no problem with that. The main issue at hand is trying to pass it through grading companies who are against the practices, and ultimately the end buyer, while hiding what was done.
Yess Love the statement of essentially think for yourself be objective! Lead dont follow
Your story made me follow you. Keep up the great work !
Thank you...more to come.
Can I ask you what you think about the corner tool to maybe fix a corner if it’s a little bent out of shape, or maybe going down the edges with your finger, and wiping off finger prints or other crap with a microfiber. I think in my own opinion all that is 100% ok. Obviously everyone wants the best grades for there cards and to me none of that is near altering. What do you think about those techniques?
I have not used his tool as I am a collector of modern cards. I do not have the time, patience nor the skill to essentially wash cards on a substance that has no ingredient's list. I will never attack Kurt personally, but the criticism of the product is sound.
LOL. Radio guy being your source of info is being subjective to begin with.
Without them trolling, they brought up good points to me.
majority of soaps has a ph of 9-10. My first thought was "could it be beewax ?"
It’s mist likely a mix of a wax and iso. I was originally guessing the same stuff they use on beards.
Could also be some sort of car polish.
Using on cheap cards is fine. When you guys start defending SOAKING and SPRAYING expensive cards with chemicals is ridiculous. Chemical side effects can and will show itself later. It interacts with the chemicals in the ink and paper. Spraying cards is dumb on any level.
Where do you order the cardboard sleeves?
Ebay
Objective does not mean you do not have beliefs. Objective does mean you are open to new information that can affect your beliefs.
Aren't we all products of our individual environments? We all act and react accordingly based on our surroundings, people around us and the situations we find ourselves in. Objectivity equates to sovereignty.
Kurt’s is great! One guy company. Trade secret. That’s all.
BGS subgrade ftw
Who tf is this guy?
@@ronnieripz Who are you? You should check your sub count...lol🤣
I think Kurt's method is better than this guy
I never said I had a method dumb a**
I messaged Kurt on Instagram yesterday asking some questions as I was interested. He responded back with 3 different minute long voice messages and multiple links. What a super nice guy!
I have no doubts about the kind of guy he is. That is not in question as I never once slandered him. The issue is whether or not PSA, SGC or any of the grading companies will allow the use of his kit and they made it clear.
@@TheCarolinaCollector I get what you are saying. However I think that this shows that their detection methods or what they say they do on inspection might not be 100% true. If Kurt’s methods restore cards naturally without alteration then I have no problem with it. The question is if there are long term effects that could cause the card to degrade overtime. Eventually someone will have the items tested in a lab and we will know for sure.
@kyler5595 Hopefully, someone does test his stuff properly.
So what's to say I couldn't buy a card off eBay that someone used Kurt's on, which I purchased without knowing that, and then I send it in to get graded ? As a buyer and grader I would be at fault? How would anyone know if any ungraded vintage single hasn't been "restored" at some point?
@hennypnw And that's the problem. PSA released new terms of service making things very clear...it's altering.
Hi, does Kurt's remove small pen marks from cards? Thanks
I don't know...I never tried.
You need a Snickers bro!!! 😅
I'm a 3 Muskateers guy personally...
@@TheCarolinaCollector I can understand that!! 😅
Kurt's card care is shoe wax/polish. That's what you're smelling
Still, what's in it?
@@TheCarolinaCollector look at the back of a can of shoe polish and you'll find your amswer