Dual sport or Street helmet - Which one is better?
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Dual sport vs Street helmet - what to take?
Today’s topic is going to be about the most important gear - the helmet. Which one to take on a long motorcycle trip. Stay with me and I will give you my opinion about it.
So let say that you already planned your trip. The bike is ready, the money are fact, but you still wondering which helmet to take. It’s a good question and I will try to answer it as simple as possible. Maybe the best option is to buy a modular helmet, something like Schuberth or Shoei, but not everyone is ready to spent 5-600 hundred dollars for helmet. I am not going to review the offers from the market, there are thousands of models. What I will do is to give you few ideas to think about.
During the years I have used any kind of helmets:
Off road
Enduro
Street
Modular
You can find tons of information in TH-cam and compare each one of the models. They all have pros and cons.
Don’t forget that we talking about the choice of helmet for a long motorcycle trip.
What that is mean?
1. The helmet need to be comfortable - light, but safe. You will have many riding hours and it need to be already proof before the trip.
2. To be as quiet as possible.
3. Easy to operate, put it in or out.
4. Easy to lock and unlock.
5. Easy to clean.
6. Possibility to lock it to the bike. Some open face helmets are not possible to lock. It needs to be something easy to forget in the case it get stolen.
7. Suitable for any weather changes and any terrains.
After all that I just said I will reduce the possible choices to just two options:
Dual sport and Street helmet.
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Only one 👍. Whats wrong? ...ok, I give you the second 😊. Good video
Hi! You do very good work. I very like your chanel.
I have one question: do you use a earplug? or any staff to protect ears against noise? I sometimes put in my ears piece of cotton wool. when I ride longer I have noise after trip and it is very annoying.
cheers!!
I'm following up so many motorcycle channels on TH-cam but, your information is really really helpful and grounded. Thanks
Finally some (very much needed) 1honesty and real life experience. Thank you very much. It was a pleasure watching this.
You are welcome anytime!
Thanks for the advice. I always thought that enduro helmets are for off road guys...but your points make sense. Thumbs up!
I first bought enduro helmet and I hated it, it's heavy and you start to have pain in the shoulders after riding some time, you freeze your face in the winter, the sunblocker pulls your head to the back in the road in high speeds thus giving you neck pain(which can evolve to a worse problem in your body)
In January I went to Uruguay with my Bell M4R and it was good enough, not perfect but I made it better than with the enduro helmet. It has the problems that you say but for me it pays off.
Sometimes, in the trip, it was hot as hell inside my helmet and I could barely breath, so I had to open the visor many times due the minimum space inside the helmet, but opening just a little bit was good enough.
I don't have bluetooth mics but I can see this as a problem.
Also I did not had problems in the offroad.
In conclusion, I think that a >light< enduro helmet beats the street helmet in hot weather, otherwise I would stick with street helmets.
good info thank you
I'm from Philippines and we have a tropical weather here that's why I bought just1 j34 dual sport helmet for daily use to work thanks to your video ride safe to us
God bless
Hi, the J34 is ok on HighWay? Or is to noisy or push your head back? Thank you!
Great video!
It has really got me thinking about trying a different helmet.
As Wind Talker said, I never gave dual sport helmets a consideration, because I figured they were strictly for off road riding.
Thank you for the video!
Love your videos mate.
Your last comment on this one was that "it is just your opinion", on choosing a helmet.
Why i like your videos is that your "opinions" are always backed up with real experience, and you give examples of how one or another thing either worked well, or failed during your own real adventures. Also your accent is great.
Well, I never talk on somebody else opinions, always have my own experience and then say whatever I wanted to say. Thanks for watching John!
gotta love the straight to the point, no BS approach of the videos on this channel !! Great job!!
Thanks man!
Thanks for the advice. I've never tried an enduro helmet but they seem to have a lot of pro's. I think I'll put that on my Christmas list.
Great channel keep up the good work
"It need to be easy to forget in the case it gets stolen". Hahaha... one of the finest and "rarest" advice on motorcycle helmet. Simply means something that you're not going to regret or to mourn over it.
Good on you mate , great vid. I have almost always chosen a helmet with a peak. When riding into the sun a peak will throw a band of shadow onto your visor. Through this shadow you will be able to see clearly. No flare, no scintillation. It is so much easier riding during that last hour of sun-up.
True.
Just bought an adventure bike and have been considering a new helmet. You've pretty much convinced me I should go for a dual-sport, thanks!
You are welcome anytime!
bottom line is wear a helmet that protects your jaw(full face) ya the open helmet lets you cool down better but you may never eat a steak again.
I agree with you. I drive a trail bike since twenty years and i learn lot of thinks on your videos. It s incredible .Thanks a lot from alp of france.
Thanks!
Thank you for this comparison of the helmets, good salient information 👍🏾
My friend, as always your observations are just unbeatable and agree 100%. I know I didn't tell anything new, but I couldn't resist, I had to put this comment. You're really precious source of knowledge for a bit less experienced drivers and I hope they follow you in order to avoid a many many ways in which they can spoil the pleasure of riding a bike. I've witnessed a lot how "experienced" bikers around me keeps suffering on their rides, missing to watch or to follow some of precious principles that can be easily picked up from your channel. Thank you very much. Keep pushing!
You are welcome anytime! I am glad that you find the channel useful, this was the original idea.
long rides need more comfort so dual sport helmets is recommended. this video sums it all up pretty nice.
Thank you very much for watching!
Does the large visor catch the wind and pull you back???
Thank you for this information. Only a guy with a lot of experience like you would could give so helpful tips. You had several points I have never considered!
Glad it was helpful!
Agreed! My Tip: Nishua Enduro Carbon (Seller: Louis Motorrad) super lightweight (there's a non-Carbon Version too, bit heavier).
It's a Enduro-shape (bit Shorter, but still Room to breathe on demanding Terrain), removable (2-step adjustable) Beak,
sufficiently ventilated, Pinlock as a Standard and a removable Chin-Curtain for cols Days / Autobahn.
What i like most about it, is the fit (nearly as comfy as an Arai XD-4) with my oval Head-shape.
then the Weight (full Setup is 1270 grams!)
Tested by a well known Magazine, as the impact-safest on the Line-up (couple of years ago), even safer than the above mentioned Arai!
Roomy! enough space for Comfort and Loudspeakers, Mics, etc., whilst Fitting snugly where needed.
Double-D Ring equipped!
sufficient Visor-Verntilation even in cold and humid Conditions (whilst moving fast enough to ventilate of Course!)
Cons:
It's quite big! So for really fast riding or for the pure Looks, it's not yours.
the Top-Vent is difficult to reach with the Beak on.
The Chin-Strap is looooong!
the Frontvent is not adjustable. It's bearable for Temperatures around 0° C, way below that, it get's really cold on your Face / in your Eyes.
Certification:
ECE 22.05, so it's all good.
Further:
The KLIM KRIOS Adventure is the same Helmet with a bit different (more modern-edgy) shaped Plastics (Beak and Spoiler)
Prices:
I Paid 299 € for my Nishua Enduro Carbon.
Price as currently lowered to 239 €
The KLIM KRIOS Adventure (at least in Germany)
costs around 600 €!
Hope that helps.
I’ve spent days in my Arai Signet Q. I ride colder climates, however. The Signet Q has a drop-down chin curtain and it’s given me a little relief from freezing. I rode with my Simpson down in Florida and the open chin area definitely circulated a lot more air!
Modular helmets tend to be heavy.
That said, I probably should still try an enduro helmet (especially in the summer).
I don’t ride with a Bluetooth unit (usually), so I usually like helmets that include cut-outs for the speakers (I wear headphones with noise cancellation for distance rides to try to save what’s left of my hearing) at the ears, but I don’t tend to use them.
You make pretty good videos, but just a suggestion - Invest in an external mic or do something about the acoustics in your recording room... The low quality of the audio in these vids detracts from the great information you're sharing.
Yes, I know. The problem is that I have to change the camera. The one I have doesn't have microphone plug. A good camera is about 700 euro. For this amount money I will make nice 10 days trip. I will do it as soon as possible.
Motorcycle Adventures ride on sound is just fine now worries. soldier been riding for long but never researched about helmets , today got a dual sport helmet. and searched this video good job.
I am glad you find it useful. Welcome back and don't forget - always ride safe!
Motorcycle Adventures U can use an external audio recorder, like a phone or something. Buy a more or less good microphone to put in it. When editing u get rid of the camera audio track, and replace it with the external audio track. Cheap solution! ☺️ Love your videos. Very informative. Keep it coming!
@@VideoNOLA good one 😅😅
I use dual sport as a urban summer helmet and racing helmet for long winter riding. the reason mostly was the pros and cons you stated.
I have the same Dual sport helmet! But in desert camo. And a 660 Tenere too :D Learning a lot with your videos Thanks! Greetings from Portugal!
Very legitimate pros and cons for both so I guess I should have one of each 😊
Hea thank you, I'm getting that scorpion helmet now. I think it's what I want.
Damn, every topic you touch, you bring me new and useful information! Thank you for your videos, I will subscribe, no doubt!
You are welcome anytime! This was the main idea of the channel, to help.
Very useful info, thanks for the video.
I had just faced all whatever you said on my long touring with my shark street helmet so now need to buy good duel touring helmet. Thank a lot for this video .👍
You are welcome any time!
Glad you mentioned these things. Thank you.
You are welcome anytime!
Good info dude! As always. Keep it up!
I have been using a street helmet Full clear visor with an internal amber flip down half visor for long distant riding for over 30 years. Also I wear glasses. Most street or full helmets now have room built in for aftermarket bluetooth headphones and microphone systems. Glasses: you can find great frames that work well with the helmet and not worry about breaking them. Yes it can be hot. Again, the better the helmet the better ventilation. Better the helmet the lighter. Most have a winterization kit for your head, neck, and chin. Plus an anti-fog mask cover for the mouth air intake. You can buy anti-fog wipes or spray;Works great on all visors and glasses. No noise, no windsail or neck torque from the wind. Easy riding
Although I do not have to travel so far nor do I go fast (90kph max) I decided to follow your advice and switch from a street helmet to an enduro helmet. Very glad I did. It has HUGE field of view, built in sunglasses, a flip-front (I wear glasses), and I can *breathe* ! Thank you for your recommendation :-)
I am glad that I helped! Ride safe!
I've checked out your website and found it very helpful in selecting a bike, thanks!
That is mean that my mission is complete it.
Very informative. Thank you
enjoyed your style of presentation, I have done a lot of long trips here in Australia and currently use a Shark Evoline series 3
which I find has more that enough room in front of your nose and of course can be legally be ridden with the chin bar up with no aerodynamic problems.
thanks Patrick
You are welcome any time!
Hello from Canada! Good info, much to think about for a rider returning to bike riding after having been away from it for a few years. Looking forward to exploring the open road with my 2011 BMW R1200GSA.
Thank you very much for watching and good luck with your GS. Don't forget - ride safe!
Thanks for the advices! Greetings from Mexico
Forget pinlock, get Invision Hypershield, they stick on to the visor and have a bigger gap/gasket between shield and Hypershield so are better at de-misting imo. Thanks for the vid' trying to decide which adv helmet to get for my travels. Never travelled before so no benchmark to work from. This really helped.
I am glad that the video helps, this was the original idea!
I have a Nolan as well, and agree they are tight.
I like Modular helmets for this reason, when you can complete move the chin bar out of the way it helps a ton.
Big up from Morocco!
Happy new year!
Very helpful tip. Thank you. 😊
Great video. No background noise or music. Plain and simple facts.
Of the more than 20 years I rode motorcycle, I have only once rode with a helmet without a peak. And that was into the sun. And that was the last time I made that mistake.
Thanks for sharing!
Your videos are incredible, congratulations.
Ok, thank you! I hope they will help somebody to make a better and easy trips.
Thanks for that; really helpful.
I guess what I would really like is a retractable visor on my modular helmet! Riding into the setting sun is really miserable.
Very educational video. Thanks for the useful tips.
i have a Schubert C3 Pro. great modular helmet a little hot in plus 30c weather. my best buy was EarSmart moulded ear plugs. plus added beak to helmet in order to use googles for more air flow
as always i like your straight up vids. same as guy on fortnine. you two are my go too sources
I have to go for the Enduro helmet, for all the reasons you mentioned, but most of all for the visor and air. I ride in hot rough country at times, I need to look where I am going without sun in my eyes and I need to breath.
Good video! You mention points like the extra space for microphones and breathing room that other videos did not mention, this is a helpful video!
Thanks for taking the time!
Thank you for your information it has been very helpful in making my decision to purchase an enduro helmet.
Good, so my mission is completed!
Would a flip-up helmet like the SHOEI Neotec be a good alternative. I will be travelling 800km at a time to reach my destination of which only 25km is off-road to get to the camp site.
Purchased a full face shark helmet on ebay for 300.00 au. Front lower section pivots/ lifts up/over front screen which can also be lifted upwards becoming an open face helmet. 2 helmets for the price of one.👍🏻👌🏻 Great for hot days. Cheers from 🇦🇺.
Great bike infos. Very practical and useful. Thanks
Thank you!
Couldn't imagine that a standard helmet could be so inconvenient during long trip. I'm learning a lot . Thank you Pavlin
It's ok, but the dual sport is much better.
Nice comments , bit of eco , try putting a mic on your veneck , very well explained 🤔😋😋😋, your English is getting better with each down load 🍻👏🏻👏🏻 all the best from PERTH WA
Thanks for your analysis, it make sense to me... Great
Thank you for watching!
your so correct after ditching my road hat for a duel sport hat much better as in comfort
I'm looking for a helmet for long rides. Im on a cruiser. But I still think your info is on point. Im going to get the dual sport helmet and remove the visor. I can always put it back on while I'm on the road to help with the Sun. Thanks for the video.
You are welcome anytime!
I Just wanna thank you for your videos. I find them very useful. Big fan here. Grettings from ibiza. Alex
Thank you very much for watching and comment it! Ride safe!
Very helpfull
The ventilation in California summer is essential
I do like my modular .
Thanks Kevin!
I really like you practical approach to riding. Cheers.
Thanks man!
Happy New Year. All good points, I prefer to use a modular, nearly all road riding of course. A great benefit is you can open it when dealing with border and other authorities, when people can see your face, they are happier to talk as one human being to another. Only a couple of models on the market that are modular / touring / enduro, Schuberth looks like the best but like you said, not everyone can spend that kind of money and damage or lose it and you will cry.
Thank you very much for watching and commend it. As I said the best choice is modular helmet but...Ride safe!
Thanks, I missed that bit.
Check out the Scorpion EXO-AT950 dual sport with flip up capability. Less than half the cost of the Schuberth E1. It's my go to helmet now for commuting and touring.
Wow that's one bad-ass looking helmet. Definitely my next helmet.
Airoh Rev fusion flip up, It's well made, does everything, great ventilation, right price & fits me perfect. You only got one head, buy a good helmet.
2020 and this guy spits facts
Nice video.I agree with you, I think a Dual Sport helmet is the only way for a long trip even if it has no off road at all....
I use a modular Nolan with internal "sun glasses" and built in BT Coms. I have to agree about the lack of chin space. I've twice had a bee fly into that small space though. I wonder would enduro helmets catch more bees. As for the sun visor, I have a strip of black insulation tape on the bottom edge of my clear shield that functions as a sun shade when I open the visor and it can be positioned to perfectly shade my eyes. Thanks for you videos. They are very informative and obviously based on lots of experience and sound logical thinking. Cheers, from sunny Australia.
well i cant complain about catching too many bees with my dual sport helmet... actually i dont catch anything. in 2 years i got 1 spider walking across my visor at 120km/h and 1 huge fly smashing so hard on my visor that half of it was full of fly incredients xd thats all. no insects on or behind the visor at all
I think your right bro. I my self will be buying a dual sport helmet to use both for my bike on street and off road. Very helpfull thanks for helping me decide to buy a dual sports helmet.
You are welcome anytime!
Hello, Pavlin, greetings from Brasil. I always use a dual sport helmet and like you I recommend it. The one thing I don't really like is the noise, in the end of the day sometimes you get tired because the loud in the ears... abraço
Yes, the noise is a big cons, but there is no perfect world my friend...
good review! i also us a modular one but for a next helmet i will consider an enduro one !
Thank you for watching!
New subscriber here. I learned a lot from your videos bro. From Philippines with love. Take care and God Bless!
Welcome aboard!
thank for the good info ...will compare it next shopping for helmet
Have fun
Happy new year sir hope you have a wonderful year. thank you for your videos
You are welcome anytime!
I have one of each. I am taking the one best suitable for the trip.
Good luck!
Have fun!
Wishing you a very happy New year
Marvellous mature knowledge for street and off road riders.
Thanks!
I agree with you, I have different types of helmets and just choose one that is suitable for the type of ride I do
True
I think your 100% correct I have enjoyed all your vids that I have watched and I may have actually learnt something from them so thanks for that as well. Price should never come into it when purchasing a helmet after all what price do you put on your head.
True
Not sure what your native language is but your English is excellent! Thanks for the great videos. I recently bought a Shoei Neotec. Unfortunately I had to shave quite a bit of material from the cheek pads because it was too tight but other than that I love it. I bought with the SENA unit made for the helmet.
My native language is Bulgarian.
Motorcycle Adventures very cool mine is Cuban !
Love your videos! I just purchased an Oneal dual sport (sierra 2) and love it. Had on open face helmet before so now it feels, of course, much more protective. Also, I was unsure whether a full face helmet might feel too restrictive but my dual sport doesn't feel this way at all. I also don't ride super fast so the extra noise and wind buffeting isn't really on issue for me.
cheers and thanks!
Hey i know it's an old comment but what size did you choose? I'm pretty small so i want to go for S but some are XS and i don't know if that's too small
@@RandomGirl-ki7wk I'm afraid that I won't be of too much help! I'm quite a tall person (almost 6 feet) and so ended up with the size large helmet. There's a shop near my mom's where i bought it and was able to try on a few. Sorry I can't be of more help!
@@catrionanicthamhais It's ok thanks anyway! :) I guess sizes really differ so I'll wait to when i can try them at a store
very nice review brother!!
This video made me decide to buy a dual-sport helmet. Thanks.
Good choice!
Cool video. Look into gettin an external mic for your camera. Even a cheap one would improve your audio by a lot. Thanks for the info. Subbed and liked.
I guess helmets are like the bikes we chose to ride, always a compromise.
I do not like street helmets, like you say they become a little claustrophobic, modular helmets are similar when down but I find if you flip the front up when riding to get more air they fell a little top heavy.
I have tried an open face style with a visor and they are OK until it rains then I get water down the front of my jacket because they leave your neck exposed.
Adventure style helmet works good for me as like you I wear goggles on the dirt, more to keep the dust out of my eyes.
I was talking to a guy who bought a Schuberth helmet, the flip front adventure style and it cost $1400 Aus, I nearly fainted, my Bell adventure cost me $300 Aus much more reasonable price.
Great topic, thanx for the vid.
Great video my friend. Greetings from Mexico!
Thanks!
I think this is one of those - what are you doing- situations. If you are just touring with some bad roads, I would want the safest and quietest helmet. If I was riding some serious trails, I would want the other helmet. Since I plan on riding slower and on roads that are not very challenging, I will opt to keep my hearing.
I have been driving with a Arai tour X for many years, no matter which bike, even on trackdays, it just suits me well
Good
Happy New Year
Hope the Best for you
Thanks for the wishes
Ahhh yes have a normal Helmet and has drawbacks so a modular or an enduro, modular mmmmm now jejje
as always nothing is perfect so back to stores put on until get one ;-)
Good video. My opinion if I'm going from Hungary to Croatia or GReece (99% of the trip is high way or motorway) I still prefer street helmet. But if I will get more experience as a tour rider I'm planning to go further and for that I think dual sport is the best choice because there are features on those helmets that I will miss in certain situations if I was wearing a street helmet. I'm a very beginner adventure rider and this is just my opinion. Of course somebody can wear enduro helmets on shorter distances (few thousand kilometres) but one thing I'm 100% sure: if I will go to a REAL long motorcycle trip not choosing enduro/dual sport would be a great mistake...
Open face for me with built in sun visor. I know not as good protection but I love the fresh air and it is so light . Disadvantage is it cannot lock to the bike with a cable, but overall I am happy.
Yes, one of my riding friends use open face, because of that reason, but I prefer more safety. Thanks for watching!
Try the LEATT Pavlin,you are gonna love it
I agree that ventilation is very important. I have been on long road trips in the US and sometimes the temperature is over 100 F. A wide field of vision is also important. Comfort is linked to safety.
True
I prefer the modular [street] helmet, but open cause high wind resistance. Several new modulars now streamline the chin guard behind the helmet to reduce drag. They are a bit more expensive, but I'm saving for a better one.
Whatever suit to you and your riding style.
Thank you for your excellent work,
I had many full face helmet,mostly shoei and as now I have a v strom I thought I gonna give it a go to the Shoei hornet adv helmet.
I was disappointed about ventillation one of the worst on that helmet.
Any recommendations for a well ventilated helmet?
I have all kinds, but my 2 favorites are the Scorpion EXO-950 modular ADV and Arai XD4.
Good, but expensive choice, I wish to be on your place.
Yhanks for sharing, very very helpful
My pleasure!
I have a usual street helmet and must admit: longest time I had it on nonstop was 6h. But my helmet was comfortable and I had no issues installing a sena com system. Big advantage for me is the channel for glasses, so thats no problem either. I never considered another type of helmet and I'm very happy with my choice so far. but I want to thank you for these hints, I will at least try one to see the differences myself
Well, you have to try it to see the difference. It's like to drive all live Toyota, you will never know what Mercedes is. Ride safe!
MaverickX2k5 - What is the make and model of your helmet? You didn't mention the make?
Good video. I'm looking at getting a dual sport helmet. My street helmet is just too compact. The chin guard is so close on my street helmet I can kiss it.
Thanks!
Man always love your videos! They make me miss the European charm and practicality 😝
For me lightness was the most important ,maybe I have a weak neck but I thought I would have to give up riding before I splashed out on a light helmet. . I regularly do 200 to 450 mile long daily trips and long tours .
Sometimes pinlocks work great ,sometimes after riding with visor up moisture can get trapped between the pinlock and visor ..worse than useless then ! Also its not clear the legality of using a pinlock visor at night.
Happy adventures !
Thank you very much for watching and commend it!
Excellant and honest............thank you.....ride safe