I ride from sunrise to sunset most trips and love the ability to cut the sun out. Just sunglasses or a tinted shield doesn't cut it at that time of day. It's not just for roost. That is the reason wear it not for a cool factor. Ride longer, you will see.
Yeah, same here about sun but, I don't have peak on my road helmets. I'm almost thinking about trying carrying some masking tape to block direct exposure.
I own a dual sport/adventure style helmet and find that while traveling East in the morning sun or west in the afternoon sun the visor can be very useful in blocking the blinding light in my eyes with just a slight tilt of my head.
@@donniebunkerboi9975 I wear Transitions Extra Actives with prescription lenses but not even dark sunglasses can block direct sunlight like a visor. That’s why all automobiles have them. Are you that guy that drives into the sun in the middle of the road that can’t see anything while those of us coming the other way nearly get run off the road? Try a visor!
One thing you didn’t really mention, is the size of the viewport in a dual sport helmet vs a street helmet. I personally don’t like the peak as I do ride on the highway, and I do ride lots of gravel and two tracks, but as you say, the peak doesn’t really help. I find that a street helmet does not give me the view I want, because they are typically smaller for safety reasons and aerodynamics. I always go back to a dual sport helmet and pull the peak off
Don't know where you are from but here in the Pacific Northwest the sun is pretty low in the sky for most of the year which makes the peak a must have.
Not that I don't use the peak off road, but some of the times I've noticed how useful the peak is was while on the road. I have found having a peak so useful that even if I were riding a street only bike I'd probably have a peaked helmet for that as well
My Bell MX-9 Adventure feels perfect. Use tinted goggles with the visor flipped up (they don't even fit weird) when it's sunny and hot out, or put the visor down when it's a little colder or you're going faster. The peak is removable, or it can be left on to block out sun and low hanging branches. Sure, a street helmet is better on street and dirt helmet is better on dirt, but if you just wander around and have no idea what kind of riding the day is going to bring when you leave the house, a dual sport helmet is perfect.
Visor has great benefits for blocking sun glare especially if you are an early rider during sunrise or sunsets. I have both types of helmets and miss not having my visor when riding.
I like my Bell MX9 adventure. It works perfectly with tinted goggles in the day at low speeds, on the highway flip down the clear shield. At night loose the goggles and run the clear shield at all speeds. It never fogs. Oh and dawn and dusk the Peak is GOLD.
...and most people will just be driving down the road 90% of the time on them. Yes, that includes gravel roads. I can ride those on my sport bike or sport tourer. I can also ride my WR250R 1000 miles down the road. There are a whole lot of adventury looking bikes out there that can't actually handle a real rough road. They are the SUVs of the motorcycle world.
I've got a Bell MX-9 adventure. I bought it for a few reasons. Super comfy (I love their fabrics and it fits my head shape just right) MIPS (safer), lightweight (especially for a non-carbon helmet) Wrights in Salt Lake had them for $170 (which is great for a helmet with MIPS). I wanted to try out a "dual sport/adventure" helmet. The peak does block a little sun in the low position but I also bought a tinted shield. The shield was cheaper than the nice pair of the goggles I wore and lenses were getting hard to find for them (dragon NFXS). Now I can toss a pair of safety glasses in my bag, if the sun goes down the shield goes up and the glasses go on. (Protection, no tint, and easier to carry than another pair of goggles or shield). Wow this turned out long winded. I also only hit the road to get to trails on my WR450F and at 70mph with the peak it still didnt feel like the sail my Fly MX helmet did.
I use my MX-9 as an urban commuter helmet, often with an untinted visor and some tinted goggles underneath. Feels awesome when I'm commuting at sunset/sunrise, and I rarely go over 50 on my commute. Surprisingly workable >70 when I have to blast down the interstate too
@@gregorysteffensen3279 only downside I've found is with the peak in the lower position if you raise the shield all the way they make contact and it will scratch the shield. Just a heads up, I moved my peak back to the full upright position
My visor is used to protect my eyes from direct sunlight. It is also used to prevent debris from trees from hitting my face shield. I hate using goggles.
Brother, I think you completely missed the point of the dual sport helmet. I ride an adventure bike (BMW GSA) and I ride at all times of the day -- including early mornings and evenings, when the sun is at angles that are just annoying if you're on a bike. I am not off-road nearly as much as I like, so the airflow features are a non-issue for me. And I am not racing other bikes, so any "roost" is a non-issue as well. But having a peak to block the sun for about 30 minutes in the morning and 30 minutes in the evening, when the sun is right in my eyes, is when I am REALLY happy I have that peak. Being able to tilt my head down, just a bit, gets the sun out of my eyes and clears my vision on the road or trail. I don't wear a helmet to "look cool." My interest in helmets is purely functional.
I’ve got an Arai XD-4 and an Africa Twin with a taller windscreen. I can go any highway speed that the bike is capable of without any pulling on the helmet. If you take the time to set your bike up correctly, (correct screen and correct helmet fit) then it’s a non issue. 50% of my riding during the week is in the dark. The other half is usually during a setting sun. I run a clear shield and have no issues blocking the sun with my peak. To each their own but I wouldn’t ride a street bike helmet on my DS or ADV bike.
Setting up windscreen, even aftermarket, usually work only for the shortest of riders. It doesn't do much for medium-height riders like 6'2" and upwards, so no setup will fix it and the helmet wind blast is unavoidable.
I had a cruiser with a big windscreen and at 6'5" my helmet was in full wind. My seat height was only 26" which is one of the lowest. On a dual sport or ADV I have no chance of a windscreen doing any good.
Forget about peaks. The DS helmet is all about having larger vision port for goggles and added protection on the highway. Just take the peak off, totally messes with highway wind.
I only had a dual sport helmet for a while and I don’t like tinted visors so I used the peak to block the sun! It’s the cheap fly racing helmet and it did me good
On my street helmet I use something similar to that. Put it inside your shield right above your line of sight. (It can be remove and reapply as many time you want) got mine from my local cycle gear. www.amazon.com/The-Original-Helmet-Sunblocker/dp/B00BSCFETQ/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Helmet+Sunblocker&qid=1609216185&sr=8-1
lol I bought a Scorpion modular-touring-dualsport Helmet, It has all the things including visor, shield, flip down tinted inner shield, modular, two later face shield for fog protection. It's a great helmet but I've not used the visor and it was a big reason i got it!
The peak on my Scorpion ADV helmet does not keep the sun out of my eyes at any angle, but it is removable. Resist the urge to join the ADV costume party and get either a street helmet for street/ highway days or a dirt helmet for dirt. Tyler, your review on ADV boots was spot on also.
I rely on the visor on my XD4 very frequently to avoid the sun. Very effective while travelling west late in the day. Looks like you bought the wrong helmet.
Arai xd-4, clear shield + killer sun glasses. Drive straight into the sun! Visor is awesome! 80 mph blind spot checking, no problem. Riding nc700x with a giving tall screen.
I ride a 250L mostly offroad so I use a dirt helmet as I need the Peak a lot. Wouldn't want to go any heavier on my helmet as I get a burning pain at the base of my neck. Excellent video, great job of pointing out the advantages and disadvantages of each style.
I use my peak all the time for deflecting tree branches riding forest service roads. It is way better to let the peak take the hit rather than scratching up the face shield.
When the sun gets low the peak has kept me from blind driving right if the road. It also mitigates some rain coupled with a good windshield. My Bell ADV X9 can wear goggles with the face shield up or down if you need to, without interfering the strap. I've never had a significant issue with dirt being vented up through the chin bar, but I dont ride in desert dry conditions here in the Heartland. It is a compermise helmet but it's compromises that are easily made.
@@mrfechu6281 whennthe sun is low, right on the horizon and shinning straight at your face you can dip you head a little and block it with the peak. When it's that low you'd almost need a wielders helmet to block enough light and then you won't see anything else. When it's high there's enough shadow from the brow of the helmet to suffice.
I second this. 80% of my commuting is directly I to the sun when it is in exactly the wrong place. Tinted face shield doesnt help much. Dipping my head with the peak does. I have a Nexx XG200 and an Arai XD4. Both perform just fine at highway speeds and you cant even tell the difference from a street helmet on the roads below 60 mph.
I use a Bell ADV helmet in the U.K. Mainly back lane and ‘green’ lane riding and the peak can be very useful when going through overgrown bushes and low hanging trees etc, saves the visor getting scratched. I wear glasses and haven’t found good goggles for going over them yet... I find that they get steamed up when it’s hot.
I've got a Bell Mx-9 Adventure MIPS that I love. Face shield flips up perfectly so goggles work great. The peak comes off easily for extended road jaunts.
Just got my first ADV bike(KTM 790 R) a couple weeks ago. Went down to my local motorcycle outfitter and explained my needs. This tiny kinda frumpy girl shows up as the salesperson and I’m thinking she merely is doing this as mean to an end part time job. She gave me an education that was nothing short of compelling in every aspect of riding gear, and also focused right on the Bell MX-9. I always try to rely my own thinking and intuition for situations like this, but since she was right on the money most times, I trusted what she was saying and it is reinforced right here.
My Nexx XD1 came with a peak extension that you screw on (awesome) and the visor is made to allow goggles to be fitted with the visor up. Pretty happy with it.
When riding slow in wooded areas, you will bring up the visor and the peak will protect the visor against getting scratched by the branches. It also protects the visor when you take the helmet off. The peak on my dual-sport helmet is also pretty ling and does effectively protect my eyes from the sun.
I've got a 50/50 helmet (acerbis fs-606) mainly because I wear hard contacts, and the wind/dust protection goggles give is an absolute god send. The helmet allows the use of goggles and the visor in tandem, thus I tend to carry tinted and clear goggles depending on the time of day. The wind noise is annoying, but I'll just thrown on some ear plugs if I'm doing plain street riding. I absolutely would not go back to a street helmet.
I wear clear or polarized (depending on time of day) safety glasses under my helmet. I’m 56 so the type I buy have “reader” magnification lenses too. My visor is rarely down due to heat, but my eyes are always protected and I can read my dash and devices.
Hi Tyler, excellent & informative video. This really helps for those of us that don't have the opportunity to test-ride several different helmets. I appreciate the way you explain how to decide on a helmet according to needs. I have a road / dirt helmet for my road bicycle, as I live in the desert, appreciate the sun blocking & rarely get over 40mph, so it's not a big sail, (fortunately). On my Arai road helmet, I've put a 2" sticker, (Troy Lee makes some), so act a bit as a visor, w/out blocking my vision. Many folks may not be aware of how snug a good fitting helmet should be, and when you take yours on & off, you can see this. I see many folks easily slip their lid on, (for comfort), not realizing a loose, (or even improper fitting) helmet can actually be dangerous in some cases. Keep up the great videos.
Took mine off for the weekend because it was mostly on road. I needed it for just 20 seconds going up hill off road and after that experience yes its essential equipment
I bought an Arai XD4 about two years ago. The visor made a noticeable difference when dealing with the Sun. And headlights. I have a couple issues with it. The face shield is a little more prone to fogging when it rains. I live in Western Washington, so it rains a lot. Also, swapping face shields is about a 20 minute headache.
fantastic way to put it. yeah :) although i think adv helments handle street riding quite well. i sold my schuberth c3 pro because i never used it after getting a adv helmet. the extra ventilation is just awesome.
just to add, the only dual sport helmet really designed for goggles is the Bell MX9 adventure, I have one and it's really nice, the visor will close over the top of the goggle straps
Great video weighing up the pros and cons. I've got the Hornet ADV and was amazed how much I'd come to appreciate the peak for extra sun protection in the right conditions when I wore a street helmet or removed it. Mainly doing road though with a little dirt.
I personally like a dirt helmet, but I do very little highway speed riding when on the street. One thing I would say is if you are going with a dirt bike helmet on a dual sport make sure that it is DOT approved. Helmets and boots are gear where it is just not worth saving a few bucks by going with a cheaper options also discourage buying a used helmet you never know if it has been comoromised
The visor of dual sport helmets are big to give a great view in all manner of head movement, so the peak is needed. I took mine off for a long road ride but I really missed the shade. On my Bell Mx-9 the peak doesn’t add any real noticeable buffeting or noise, and I’ve never had it pull my head on an over the shoulder look on the tarmac. If the helmet comes with a peak, leave it on. Taking it off is a sales tactic, and it serves a purpose with the taller face shield opening so goggles can be used on a dual sport style helmet.
I mostly ride on road, but I do need the peak as it really help blocks the sun, I lived in a really sunny place so for me it mostly helpful.. 😁 It also helps when I ride in the rain too, it blocks some of the rain drops, heads down, and my face is safe from the prickling rain
I got to say when I was commuting a lot everyday in downtown traffic, I really want an ATV style helmet both for the slightly bigger airflow and usually very wide peripheral vision, but mainly for the visor. Having sun in my eye while trying to look at a traffic light sucked.
It rains half the time where I live. Having a peak is actually is great when moving slow in rain. Tilt head down slightly and the peak shields the visor. But yes it bugs me on the fast roads when my head gets pulled around in the wind.
What you missed was when you have a face shield full of dust from riding off pavement and heading into a low(ish) sun. the shield can be impossible to see through because of the reflection from all the dust. without a peak, you're out of luck. The peak allows you to dip your head slightly to put a shadow on the shield and improve your vision significantly.
Great video !!! I ride more dirt helmets in the warmer days here in pa and street only helmet in the colder days but after this video I'm convinced to get a shoei dualsport helmet
The peak is excellent for protecting the visor if you ride with it flipped up. Even carrying the helmet in your hand that peak will protect from scratches if you bump something. My 4 month old scorpion has a perfectly clear visor without scratches but the peak is surely dinged up.
The answer is yes. I ride 98% on road. The peak on my XD-4 is a godsend for keeping the sun off my face when I'm on the highway for 6+ hours. A dark smoke face shield is useful too, but there's no substitute for a peak to completely block the sun.
Going slow in technical hard enduro, I flip up my wind shield. It gets foggy if your not getting good air flow. The plastic visor protects my face glass from branches, fall scratches etc... it’s to protect your face shield.
You understate the benefit of shading and blocking the sun. Tilting the head to block oncoming sun is huge. I have a DRZ400, Versys and a Goldwing. Riding with the Shoei Hornet I find the pull, noise and turbulence nil on the Wing at 70mph with cut down windshield. The sun is intense dryer treeless areas of the country with higher altitudes. I've been riding with a modified beak visor on my street helmets for many years. The Shoei Hornet with likely replace my street helmet.
If you can't SEE the peak (which actually IS the case with some helmets) I get your point. But on my XD4, the peak shades the sun well, plus it still protects me from roost and I never have an issue with wind on the highway. You just need the right helmet (ie: the Arai XD4!)
Bell MX9 is also good DS helmet and designed for goggles without visor removal. This is my choice riding the wr250 and the Scorpion modular (not goggle compatibile) s my choice riding the 650
1. I like the style 2. It feels less awkward to know people may be staring at me 3. I rarely go fast enough for the wind to knock around my helmet 4. It seems to fit the style of my CRF230M and Grom I ride 5. I've played Halo since 2005.
The peak is like a baseball cap on a sunny day. When wearing sunglasses do you need a baseball cap ? Not necessarily, but if you do wearing one you will notice that at the end of the day your eyes are less fatigued. The same for the peak on the helmet. If you drive days and days in the sun you will appreciate a peak because it will block the glare and intense light.
I kind of agree. I bought an adventure helmet and now regret it. However I do like the peak for riding when the sun is low. I should’ve bought a motocross helmet. The Fox v3 is on my wishlist. My favorite street helmet is the bell race star. Love it.
I wear an LS2 duel. I find it very comfortable. When I'm off road on green lanes its visor up and I throw on a pair of Dwalt work glasses. They work an absolute treat. The peak for me is a wonderful sun visor. Something that I oftern find invaluable on the ride home living quite high in the northern hemisphere.
Eh, I live in the SW, where the sun intensity is much greater and it's hotter too, and it's really nice having a peak during the day. It's great around sunrise and sunset to block out the low sun, but it's damn nice not having the sun blasting downwards on my face midday. I have a huge collection of helmets from years of riding too: street, dirt, adv, modular, half, 3/4 and peaks do have their advantages. Sure, if I were on a sportbike at freeway speed +, wind resistance would be a factor, but that's not much of a factor riding in the city. On a personal side, I also had an eye injury that made my eyes fairly photophobic, so anything that helps keep the the bright fireball from roasting my eyes is greatly appreciated. There really is no wrong opinion here though, so wear whatever you like and works the best for you in your situation.
A peak for me is all about getting the sun out of my eyes. On my old scorpion full face helmet I did the black tape trick on the inside of the visor, and while that worked, I knew eventually that I was going to move toward a modular helmet. I have a full modular LS1 for my road bike, but it has no peak. Recently I bought the Scorpion EXO -AT950, thinking that this was for my dual sport riding only. With the face shield, peak and drop down sun shield, and being modular this has become my favorite helmet of all time. I use it more now than the LS1. The LS1 matches my bike color (2005 Honda ST 1300), while the new AT950 matches my new Tourmaster Transition 5 Jacket. So depending on which way my OCD is swinging that day, I have a couple of choices....TMI?
I now use a dual-sport helmet with the peak/visor primarily to block the sun.. my street helmet only really cuts it at night or when there is no sun or it is directly above or behind me.... where I live in the s/w, the roads mainly run east and west....in the morning or afternoon facing the sun I find the visor/peak helps tremendously... on an out of town trip I will definitely wear the dual-sport
On my KLR650 I can be in the dirt in 1st or 2nd gear or doing highway miles at speed. ADV helmets with the peak ( and in my case a tinted secondary visor ) cover every situation with only 1 helmet. Yes a compromise but in rain, at night, riding into the sun - my adv helmet keeps me comfortable and safe. The peak is also great when riding into the rain as it can prevent some rain from hitting the visor.
Every day is a day at school is it not ??? But now not sure which helmet to go for because I do a little of everything and am also sadly bias to style ??
Also, considering that most ADV bikes have a windscreen...that's some built in roost protection right there (for the rare instances one might need it). However, I have ridden 1000s of miles with "ADV" helmets (SHOEI Hornet X2 and Nolan n70-2 x) and the peak was certainly useful and very helpful when riding into low angle sun. In fact, that is the only reason I went with a peaked helmet over a standard road helmet. IAnd while I appreciate the sun-blocking function, I'd say it came into play only 5% of my riding time over many years.
I have been riding 30 years and have sun damage on my nose so I use a good sun screen and duel sport helment with a peak. Since I have a wind shield on my bike the peak on the helment has not been a problem.
Without peaks your sealed helmet would act like a solar oven during the summer and in the winter you will be blinded by the low sun shining directly on your face. I tried the double tinted visors option but thats not even enough to relieve eye strain and it darkens the shadow areas significantly.
I loved the peak on my dualsport helmet. Could not pull down the built in shades when wearing googles. On long trips I would remove the peak though, the updraft from the forks made the turbulence unbearable.
Excellent video, this really has changed my thinking on a dual sport helmets. So the money I will save on not buying a dual sport helmet that I can’t use I can put to a better quality road helmet.
I prefer a road helmet with visor up and padded riding glasses instead of dirt goggles for maximum comfort and air flow to my face when on dirt. When I leave the dirt, I remove the sunglasses and drop the visor. The helmet I currently use is a Biltwell Lane Splitter. The air vents in the chin guard are enormous. Great air flow. Of course, when you're working a tough trail in high heat, nothing is ideal, but this combo works best in most scenarios for me. The peak on a dual sport helmet is pointless.
Short Beak - for the Woods / Not the sun. We fortunate Missourians (land where the earth puked up green and gravel everywhere) get to play in the woods when we dual sport - but rarely get wide-open sunbathing like you SW dry open landers. While the short beak does nothing for sun management (as I can't even see the beak on my Bell D/S helmet) - it keeps the shield from getting scrapped up like a cheese block at Maggionos Italian Restaurant while riding with the shield up through the thick brush and tree limbs. We use the shield to control the rain and dust and the goggles to keep the airflow going.
The only reason to be riding so close that roust is a problem is if your racing. I ride with a Gmax helmet and love it. I ride about 50/50 and find googles to be useless. When I ride on road I use a clear face shield with sun glasses, and off road I ride with safety sun glasses and my shield up. My peak is one of the things I like best because I always seem to have the sun in my face. I also have a wind screen so at speed on the highway the peak isn't really a problem. One last thing if you really think your reflexes are that good that your going to always react fast enough to stop a rock from hitting you in the face, you will find out what I mean by googles being useless, and riding so close roust is a problem. Each to their own.
My road helmet has a peak. I use an SE4 off-road but a Variant Pro on-road. If you want to look cool, you need to raise the peak on your TLD basically as high as it goes.
Love ya man, but you forgot one major point. Why do ball caps have a bill? To block the sun. I have several types of helmets and my go to (even for street and long interstate trips) is a dulasport helmet. That peak really blocks the sun well.
I wear a Bell MX-9 Adventure MIPS (light, plenty of air flow, comfortable and cheap!). I ride dual-sport, highway & off-road.The peak visor really blocks sun late in the afternoon and on some overgrown trails with briars or branches, a quick head dip lets the peak visor take the hit from the vegetation. So briars / branches are discouraged from getting to my neck and chest!
Adv helmets have much larger shields and wider field of view which is essential when riding trails. Try using a street helmet even on gravel roads. You are going to struggle picking a line.
I know this is an old Vid , and would would agree with most of what you have said , I ride road , Enduro & Dual sport / Adventure. Yes I agree for just road “ a road helmet ⛑ For just dirt a dirt helmet ⛑ But for Dual sport / Adventure riding we’re you can do big highway miles to get to the dirt , on day trips or Multiple day , week , months etc an ADV Helmet ⛑ is the best as one thing you left out when riding into the sun you can tilt your head down to block it out ( iv done this heaps ) but mostly agree for one style or the other only .
Bell MX-9 enables both face shield and goggles to be used simultaneously, its my go-to for winter rides, great for the commute sections on a cold morning, or when the downpour starts - just drop the sheild over the goggles, stop the rain getting in, lift it back up when its done and you've got dry clean goggles - don't even need to think about stopping.
Peaks are great for riding into the sun....you just dip your chin.... it's exceptional help in my humble opinion. 30+ years of riding dirt/sport bikes/ Harleys.... I'll be replacing my HJC with either a Shoei or Arai. I like the look and appreciate the "multi-tool" or "Jack of All Trades" flexibility that I've conceded the miniscule compromises. Again, just my humble opinion. Thanks for the video and sharing your side of the discussion
Good review and really helpful. I prefer to ride on the street with a peak (visor) to block the sun and googles to allow max airflow. Here in the uk we often don't get much sun or warm weather, so when the sun does come out things can get real stuffy inside a full street helmet!
The one on my Firstgear helmet seemed to be ruddering my head around pretty firmly, so I just pulled it off. It'll sit on the shelf for when I figure I need it. :) Of course, I figured this out after ordering another road helmet from Amazon. That might get to take a U-turn back to the warehouse.
A bit noisier than the Shoei but I love the Nexx I've got. $100s cheaper too! Love the options for cam mounts & the front vent also. Just wish the Bluetooth was sensibly priced.
I have 4 peaks in a drawer in my garage that I removed from new "adventure" helmets after a few rides. They may look cool for profiling but are basically useless and annoying for street riding. I tend to like adventure/dual sport helmets for their bigger eye ports/visors and generally better ventilation, but the peaks always end up coming off and staying off after a day or two. It seems there are touring helmets sold in European markets that resemble ADV helmets but without the peak, but we don't get most of them in the US.
I find the peak is the best protection for the visor as when in the up position the visor is protected and when riding the trails you are able to dip your had to brush tree branches over your head rather than across the visor. I have a helmet with a retractable out tinted visor so I'll often ride with that down and the main visor up to get the max air flow. Making the peak great protection for the main visor preventing it getting scratched. But for onroad definetly agree removing the peak makes life so much nicer.
My rides seem to always end facing the setting sun so...yeah peak is good
Totally agree. Love my peak blocking sun
I ride from sunrise to sunset most trips and love the ability to cut the sun out. Just sunglasses or a tinted shield doesn't cut it at that time of day. It's not just for roost. That is the reason wear it not for a cool factor. Ride longer, you will see.
Yeah, same here about sun but, I don't have peak on my road helmets. I'm almost thinking about trying carrying some masking tape to block direct exposure.
@@oknevals I experimented with the stickey tape foam, you use in door jams on my street helmet a few years back.
@@colorider903 Did it work?
Anyone who has actually rode off into the sunset knows full well the value of a good visor!
yes and sometimes even sunglasses AND visor!!
And trees with branches smacking your face
@@vood00samurai LOL yes
The visor no matter what you ride is great
I've gotta have that visor for sure.
I own a dual sport/adventure style helmet and find that while traveling East in the morning sun or west in the afternoon sun the visor can be very useful in blocking the blinding light in my eyes with just a slight tilt of my head.
Exactly!
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Yup.
There's a thing called sunglasses
@@donniebunkerboi9975 I wear Transitions Extra Actives with prescription lenses but not even dark sunglasses can block direct sunlight like a visor. That’s why all automobiles have them. Are you that guy that drives into the sun in the middle of the road that can’t see anything while those of us coming the other way nearly get run off the road? Try a visor!
One thing you didn’t really mention, is the size of the viewport in a dual sport helmet vs a street helmet. I personally don’t like the peak as I do ride on the highway, and I do ride lots of gravel and two tracks, but as you say, the peak doesn’t really help. I find that a street helmet does not give me the view I want, because they are typically smaller for safety reasons and aerodynamics. I always go back to a dual sport helmet and pull the peak off
Don't know where you are from but here in the Pacific Northwest the sun is pretty low in the sky for most of the year which makes the peak a must have.
I concur. From Forks and Sequim Wa!
Not that I don't use the peak off road, but some of the times I've noticed how useful the peak is was while on the road. I have found having a peak so useful that even if I were riding a street only bike I'd probably have a peaked helmet for that as well
Olympia Washington here!!
My Bell MX-9 Adventure feels perfect. Use tinted goggles with the visor flipped up (they don't even fit weird) when it's sunny and hot out, or put the visor down when it's a little colder or you're going faster. The peak is removable, or it can be left on to block out sun and low hanging branches.
Sure, a street helmet is better on street and dirt helmet is better on dirt, but if you just wander around and have no idea what kind of riding the day is going to bring when you leave the house, a dual sport helmet is perfect.
I have the same helmet... Love it... and I use a combo of the peak/goggles/shield as well :)
Visor has great benefits for blocking sun glare especially if you are an early rider during sunrise or sunsets. I have both types of helmets and miss not having my visor when riding.
I like my Bell MX9 adventure. It works perfectly with tinted goggles in the day at low speeds, on the highway flip down the clear shield. At night loose the goggles and run the clear shield at all speeds. It never fogs. Oh and dawn and dusk the Peak is GOLD.
I have one too but it just looks like a lollipop
It's amazing how similar dual sport helmets are to dual sport bikes. They do both things well enough, but are an exercise in compromise!
...and most people will just be driving down the road 90% of the time on them. Yes, that includes gravel roads. I can ride those on my sport bike or sport tourer. I can also ride my WR250R 1000 miles down the road. There are a whole lot of adventury looking bikes out there that can't actually handle a real rough road. They are the SUVs of the motorcycle world.
I've got a Bell MX-9 adventure. I bought it for a few reasons. Super comfy (I love their fabrics and it fits my head shape just right) MIPS (safer), lightweight (especially for a non-carbon helmet) Wrights in Salt Lake had them for $170 (which is great for a helmet with MIPS). I wanted to try out a "dual sport/adventure" helmet. The peak does block a little sun in the low position but I also bought a tinted shield. The shield was cheaper than the nice pair of the goggles I wore and lenses were getting hard to find for them (dragon NFXS). Now I can toss a pair of safety glasses in my bag, if the sun goes down the shield goes up and the glasses go on. (Protection, no tint, and easier to carry than another pair of goggles or shield). Wow this turned out long winded. I also only hit the road to get to trails on my WR450F and at 70mph with the peak it still didnt feel like the sail my Fly MX helmet did.
I use my MX-9 as an urban commuter helmet, often with an untinted visor and some tinted goggles underneath. Feels awesome when I'm commuting at sunset/sunrise, and I rarely go over 50 on my commute. Surprisingly workable >70 when I have to blast down the interstate too
@@gregorysteffensen3279 only downside I've found is with the peak in the lower position if you raise the shield all the way they make contact and it will scratch the shield. Just a heads up, I moved my peak back to the full upright position
Got mine from Amazon for much less a year ago. Iirc, it was $99 with free shipping. For some reason they have them priced differently with the decals.
@@gregorysteffensen3279 Seriously I use mine the exact same way and it is great!
@@jev2867 probably not the ADV model .....it's the older mx model without a shield I would imagine for that price
I Like a visor. I live in the mountains so a visor is good for glare anytime the sun is low. Street or dirt.
My visor is used to protect my eyes from direct sunlight. It is also used to prevent debris from trees from hitting my face shield. I hate using goggles.
Brother, I think you completely missed the point of the dual sport helmet. I ride an adventure bike (BMW GSA) and I ride at all times of the day -- including early mornings and evenings, when the sun is at angles that are just annoying if you're on a bike. I am not off-road nearly as much as I like, so the airflow features are a non-issue for me. And I am not racing other bikes, so any "roost" is a non-issue as well. But having a peak to block the sun for about 30 minutes in the morning and 30 minutes in the evening, when the sun is right in my eyes, is when I am REALLY happy I have that peak. Being able to tilt my head down, just a bit, gets the sun out of my eyes and clears my vision on the road or trail. I don't wear a helmet to "look cool." My interest in helmets is purely functional.
I’ve got an Arai XD-4 and an Africa Twin with a taller windscreen. I can go any highway speed that the bike is capable of without any pulling on the helmet. If you take the time to set your bike up correctly, (correct screen and correct helmet fit) then it’s a non issue. 50% of my riding during the week is in the dark. The other half is usually during a setting sun. I run a clear shield and have no issues blocking the sun with my peak. To each their own but I wouldn’t ride a street bike helmet on my DS or ADV bike.
Setting up windscreen, even aftermarket, usually work only for the shortest of riders. It doesn't do much for medium-height riders like 6'2" and upwards, so no setup will fix it and the helmet wind blast is unavoidable.
@@impact0r you can always make your windshield higher with an insert.
Only thing is really tall DS windshields look horrible
I had a cruiser with a big windscreen and at 6'5" my helmet was in full wind. My seat height was only 26" which is one of the lowest.
On a dual sport or ADV I have no chance of a windscreen doing any good.
Forget about peaks. The DS helmet is all about having larger vision port for goggles and added protection on the highway. Just take the peak off, totally messes with highway wind.
The peak on my XD4 helps keep snow off the visor...🤪🇨🇦
Ayyee 🇨🇦🤟
I thought the peak was the visor
@@infotechsailor Hi Josh Arai refers to the eye shield part you look through as “visor”
I only had a dual sport helmet for a while and I don’t like tinted visors so I used the peak to block the sun! It’s the cheap fly racing helmet and it did me good
On my street helmet I use something similar to that. Put it inside your shield right above your line of sight. (It can be remove and reapply as many time you want) got mine from my local cycle gear.
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lol I bought a Scorpion modular-touring-dualsport Helmet, It has all the things including visor, shield, flip down tinted inner shield, modular, two later face shield for fog protection. It's a great helmet but I've not used the visor and it was a big reason i got it!
I prefer having a peak to having to store an extra visor for long days/travel.
“Much love; eveRide [insert 30 second ad here] out.” 😂😂
I felt like I was watching Psych... “Wait for iiiiitt!”
The peak on my Scorpion ADV helmet does not keep the sun out of my eyes at any angle, but it is removable. Resist the urge to join the ADV costume party and get either a street helmet for street/ highway days or a dirt helmet for dirt. Tyler, your review on ADV boots was spot on also.
Exactly.
I rely on the visor on my XD4 very frequently to avoid the sun. Very effective while travelling west late in the day. Looks like you bought the wrong helmet.
Arai xd-4, clear shield + killer sun glasses. Drive straight into the sun! Visor is awesome!
80 mph blind spot checking, no problem. Riding nc700x with a giving tall screen.
The peak and chin also act like a brush guard so you aren't bashing your goggles or lens into every twig.
I ride a 250L mostly offroad so I use a dirt helmet as I need the Peak a lot. Wouldn't want to go any heavier on my helmet as I get a burning pain at the base of my neck. Excellent video, great job of pointing out the advantages and disadvantages of each style.
I use my peak all the time for deflecting tree branches riding forest service roads. It is way better to let the peak take the hit rather than scratching up the face shield.
same
When the sun gets low the peak has kept me from blind driving right if the road. It also mitigates some rain coupled with a good windshield. My Bell ADV X9 can wear goggles with the face shield up or down if you need to, without interfering the strap. I've never had a significant issue with dirt being vented up through the chin bar, but I dont ride in desert dry conditions here in the Heartland. It is a compermise helmet but it's compromises that are easily made.
why when the sun gets low? I never had one of this but I thought it´d be useful when the sun is high.
@@mrfechu6281 whennthe sun is low, right on the horizon and shinning straight at your face you can dip you head a little and block it with the peak. When it's that low you'd almost need a wielders helmet to block enough light and then you won't see anything else. When it's high there's enough shadow from the brow of the helmet to suffice.
I second this. 80% of my commuting is directly I to the sun when it is in exactly the wrong place. Tinted face shield doesnt help much. Dipping my head with the peak does. I have a Nexx XG200 and an Arai XD4. Both perform just fine at highway speeds and you cant even tell the difference from a street helmet on the roads below 60 mph.
I wish my helmet had a peak. End of day rides are always into the sun. A peak would be super.
"Throwing a big old chunk off your knob." Best quote of 2020.
@MassCityMadman ..and with coronaphopia going on..
Phil Tonic: So, to avoid being roostered, is the slogan, always wear protection? Or is it, use protection ware?
You didn't get the quote right, but okay.
I use a Bell ADV helmet in the U.K. Mainly back lane and ‘green’ lane riding and the peak can be very useful when going through overgrown bushes and low hanging trees etc, saves the visor getting scratched. I wear glasses and haven’t found good goggles for going over them yet... I find that they get steamed up when it’s hot.
I've got a Bell Mx-9 Adventure MIPS that I love. Face shield flips up perfectly so goggles work great. The peak comes off easily for extended road jaunts.
Probably one of the best adv helmets for the money
Just got my first ADV bike(KTM 790 R) a couple weeks ago.
Went down to my local motorcycle outfitter and explained my needs. This tiny kinda frumpy girl shows up as the salesperson and I’m thinking she merely is doing this as mean to an end part time job. She gave me an education that was nothing short of compelling in every aspect of riding gear, and also focused right on the Bell
MX-9. I always try to rely my own thinking and intuition for situations like this, but since she was right on the money most times, I trusted what she was saying and it is reinforced right here.
I’ve been a street rider for years but bought a ADV bike recently. This was extremely informative.
Thank you!
So which helmet did you get
My Nexx XD1 came with a peak extension that you screw on (awesome) and the visor is made to allow goggles to be fitted with the visor up. Pretty happy with it.
When riding slow in wooded areas, you will bring up the visor and the peak will protect the visor against getting scratched by the branches. It also protects the visor when you take the helmet off.
The peak on my dual-sport helmet is also pretty ling and does effectively protect my eyes from the sun.
I got in a wreck two weeks ago. I broke my wrist and my collarbone in four places. Most importantly, I broke my dual sport Fly helmet. Saved my life.
I've got a 50/50 helmet (acerbis fs-606) mainly because I wear hard contacts, and the wind/dust protection goggles give is an absolute god send. The helmet allows the use of goggles and the visor in tandem, thus I tend to carry tinted and clear goggles depending on the time of day. The wind noise is annoying, but I'll just thrown on some ear plugs if I'm doing plain street riding.
I absolutely would not go back to a street helmet.
Peak has saved my hide a few times riding into setting sun, so get my vote.
I wear clear or polarized (depending on time of day) safety glasses under my helmet. I’m 56 so the type I buy have “reader” magnification lenses too. My visor is rarely down due to heat, but my eyes are always protected and I can read my dash and devices.
Hi Tyler, excellent & informative video. This really helps for those of us that don't have the opportunity to test-ride several different helmets. I appreciate the way you explain how to decide on a helmet according to needs.
I have a road / dirt helmet for my road bicycle, as I live in the desert, appreciate the sun blocking & rarely get over 40mph, so it's not a big sail, (fortunately). On my Arai road helmet, I've put a 2" sticker, (Troy Lee makes some), so act a bit as a visor, w/out blocking my vision.
Many folks may not be aware of how snug a good fitting helmet should be, and when you take yours on & off, you can see this.
I see many folks easily slip their lid on, (for comfort), not realizing a loose, (or even improper fitting) helmet can actually be dangerous in some cases. Keep up the great videos.
Took mine off for the weekend because it was mostly on road. I needed it for just 20 seconds going up hill off road and after that experience yes its essential equipment
I bought an Arai XD4 about two years ago. The visor made a noticeable difference when dealing with the Sun. And headlights.
I have a couple issues with it. The face shield is a little more prone to fogging when it rains. I live in Western Washington, so it rains a lot. Also, swapping face shields is about a 20 minute headache.
So an ADV helmet is a KLR of helmets? Does is it all, but none of it great ?
fantastic way to put it. yeah :) although i think adv helments handle street riding quite well. i sold my schuberth c3 pro because i never used it after getting a adv helmet. the extra ventilation is just awesome.
@@Sweetw4ter the Schuberts are engineered for quiet, ventilation kills quiet
@@phillyfyre correct. since i use plugs, quiet is not needed that much for me.
@@Sweetw4ter I use meee iem's with comply tips. Works great with my Bluetooth comms
just to add, the only dual sport helmet really designed for goggles is the Bell MX9 adventure, I have one and it's really nice, the visor will close over the top of the goggle straps
Great video weighing up the pros and cons. I've got the Hornet ADV and was amazed how much I'd come to appreciate the peak for extra sun protection in the right conditions when I wore a street helmet or removed it. Mainly doing road though with a little dirt.
Dual sport helmets are like dual sport bikes. They don't do anything GOOD, but they will anything.
Brian Ford that’s a very valid point. The ol’ KLR adage: it does nothing well, but it will do everything.
I personally like a dirt helmet, but I do very little highway speed riding when on the street. One thing I would say is if you are going with a dirt bike helmet on a dual sport make sure that it is DOT approved. Helmets and boots are gear where it is just not worth saving a few bucks by going with a cheaper options also discourage buying a used helmet you never know if it has been comoromised
The visor of dual sport helmets are big to give a great view in all manner of head movement, so the peak is needed. I took mine off for a long road ride but I really missed the shade. On my Bell Mx-9 the peak doesn’t add any real noticeable buffeting or noise, and I’ve never had it pull my head on an over the shoulder look on the tarmac. If the helmet comes with a peak, leave it on. Taking it off is a sales tactic, and it serves a purpose with the taller face shield opening so goggles can be used on a dual sport style helmet.
I mostly ride on road, but I do need the peak as it really help blocks the sun, I lived in a really sunny place so for me it mostly helpful.. 😁
It also helps when I ride in the rain too, it blocks some of the rain drops, heads down, and my face is safe from the prickling rain
I got to say when I was commuting a lot everyday in downtown traffic, I really want an ATV style helmet both for the slightly bigger airflow and usually very wide peripheral vision, but mainly for the visor. Having sun in my eye while trying to look at a traffic light sucked.
It rains half the time where I live. Having a peak is actually is great when moving slow in rain. Tilt head down slightly and the peak shields the visor.
But yes it bugs me on the fast roads when my head gets pulled around in the wind.
Its good for EUC. If you ride slow you use the peak to block rain when you not using a visor. Cause they fog up sometimes.
What you missed was when you have a face shield full of dust from riding off pavement and heading into a low(ish) sun. the shield can be impossible to see through because of the reflection from all the dust. without a peak, you're out of luck. The peak allows you to dip your head slightly to put a shadow on the shield and improve your vision significantly.
I got a peaked helmet as I like my licence. When the peak starts lifting my head at speed it's a good indication I'm over the speed limit works well.
Great video !!! I ride more dirt helmets in the warmer days here in pa and street only helmet in the colder days but after this video I'm convinced to get a shoei dualsport helmet
I love having a peak. I always stay on asphalt but the sun protection on my XD4 Arai makes my ride much more comfortable.
The peak is excellent for protecting the visor if you ride with it flipped up. Even carrying the helmet in your hand that peak will protect from scratches if you bump something. My 4 month old scorpion has a perfectly clear visor without scratches but the peak is surely dinged up.
The answer is yes. I ride 98% on road. The peak on my XD-4 is a godsend for keeping the sun off my face when I'm on the highway for 6+ hours. A dark smoke face shield is useful too, but there's no substitute for a peak to completely block the sun.
Going slow in technical hard enduro, I flip up my wind shield. It gets foggy if your not getting good air flow. The plastic visor protects my face glass from branches, fall scratches etc... it’s to protect your face shield.
You understate the benefit of shading and blocking the sun. Tilting the head to block oncoming sun is huge. I have a DRZ400, Versys and a Goldwing. Riding with the Shoei Hornet I find the pull, noise and turbulence nil on the Wing at 70mph with cut down windshield. The sun is intense dryer treeless areas of the country with higher altitudes. I've been riding with a modified beak visor on my street helmets for many years. The Shoei Hornet with likely replace my street helmet.
Tropics, 80-100% humidity, very hot sunny days - the MX, an open face or a modular helmet is probably high on your list. Climate is a key factor.
If you can't SEE the peak (which actually IS the case with some helmets) I get your point. But on my XD4, the peak shades the sun well, plus it still protects me from roost and I never have an issue with wind on the highway. You just need the right helmet (ie: the Arai XD4!)
Sunvisor as well. (OK you add the sunvisor part later) ;)
Bell MX9 is also good DS helmet and designed for goggles without visor removal. This is my choice riding the wr250 and the Scorpion modular (not goggle compatibile) s my choice riding the 650
1. I like the style
2. It feels less awkward to know people may be staring at me
3. I rarely go fast enough for the wind to knock around my helmet
4. It seems to fit the style of my CRF230M and Grom I ride
5. I've played Halo since 2005.
The peak is like a baseball cap on a sunny day. When wearing sunglasses do you need a baseball cap ? Not necessarily, but if you do wearing one you will notice that at the end of the day your eyes are less fatigued. The same for the peak on the helmet. If you drive days and days in the sun you will appreciate a peak because it will block the glare and intense light.
I kind of agree. I bought an adventure helmet and now regret it. However I do like the peak for riding when the sun is low. I should’ve bought a motocross helmet. The Fox v3 is on my wishlist. My favorite street helmet is the bell race star. Love it.
I wear an LS2 duel. I find it very comfortable.
When I'm off road on green lanes its visor up and I throw on a pair of Dwalt work glasses. They work an absolute treat.
The peak for me is a wonderful sun visor. Something that I oftern find invaluable on the ride home living quite high in the northern hemisphere.
Eh, I live in the SW, where the sun intensity is much greater and it's hotter too, and it's really nice having a peak during the day. It's great around sunrise and sunset to block out the low sun, but it's damn nice not having the sun blasting downwards on my face midday. I have a huge collection of helmets from years of riding too: street, dirt, adv, modular, half, 3/4 and peaks do have their advantages. Sure, if I were on a sportbike at freeway speed +, wind resistance would be a factor, but that's not much of a factor riding in the city. On a personal side, I also had an eye injury that made my eyes fairly photophobic, so anything that helps keep the the bright fireball from roasting my eyes is greatly appreciated. There really is no wrong opinion here though, so wear whatever you like and works the best for you in your situation.
A peak for me is all about getting the sun out of my eyes. On my old scorpion full face helmet I did the black tape trick on the inside of the visor, and while that worked, I knew eventually that I was going to move toward a modular helmet. I have a full modular LS1 for my road bike, but it has no peak. Recently I bought the Scorpion EXO -AT950, thinking that this was for my dual sport riding only. With the face shield, peak and drop down sun shield, and being modular this has become my favorite helmet of all time. I use it more now than the LS1. The LS1 matches my bike color (2005 Honda ST 1300), while the new AT950 matches my new Tourmaster Transition 5 Jacket. So depending on which way my OCD is swinging that day, I have a couple of choices....TMI?
I now use a dual-sport helmet with the peak/visor primarily to block the sun.. my street helmet only really cuts it at night or when there is no sun or it is directly above or behind me.... where I live in the s/w, the roads mainly run east and west....in the morning or afternoon facing the sun I find the visor/peak helps tremendously... on an out of town trip I will definitely wear the dual-sport
This convinced me to finally choose to buy a street helmet. I ride a dual sport but I don't expect to be doing hard core off-roading.
On my KLR650 I can be in the dirt in 1st or 2nd gear or doing highway miles at speed. ADV helmets with the peak ( and in my case a tinted secondary visor ) cover every situation with only 1 helmet. Yes a compromise but in rain, at night, riding into the sun - my adv helmet keeps me comfortable and safe. The peak is also great when riding into the rain as it can prevent some rain from hitting the visor.
I'm just about to buy my first motorcycle. So I'm choosing my first helmet. Your video has been helpful to make me decide about it. Thanx!
Every day is a day at school is it not ??? But now not sure which helmet to go for because I do a little of everything and am also sadly bias to style ??
Also, considering that most ADV bikes have a windscreen...that's some built in roost protection right there (for the rare instances one might need it). However, I have ridden 1000s of miles with "ADV" helmets (SHOEI Hornet X2 and Nolan n70-2 x) and the peak was certainly useful and very helpful when riding into low angle sun. In fact, that is the only reason I went with a peaked helmet over a standard road helmet. IAnd while I appreciate the sun-blocking function, I'd say it came into play only 5% of my riding time over many years.
I have been riding 30 years and have sun damage on my nose so I use a good sun screen and duel sport helment with a peak. Since I have a wind shield on my bike the peak on the helment has not been a problem.
Without peaks your sealed helmet would act like a solar oven during the summer and in the winter you will be blinded by the low sun shining directly on your face. I tried the double tinted visors option but thats not even enough to relieve eye strain and it darkens the shadow areas significantly.
For anyone else new to riding, shoei is the brand. Fyi (since no product link) IT'S $600 & WEIGHT=OVER 4 POUNDS.
I loved the peak on my dualsport helmet. Could not pull down the built in shades when wearing googles. On long trips I would remove the peak though, the updraft from the forks made the turbulence unbearable.
Excellent video, this really has changed my thinking on a dual sport helmets. So the money I will save on not buying a dual sport helmet that I can’t use I can put to a better quality road helmet.
I got a street Arai helmet and I seriously miss the peak on my old adv helmet. Very worth
I prefer a road helmet with visor up and padded riding glasses instead of dirt goggles for maximum comfort and air flow to my face when on dirt. When I leave the dirt, I remove the sunglasses and drop the visor. The helmet I currently use is a Biltwell Lane Splitter. The air vents in the chin guard are enormous. Great air flow. Of course, when you're working a tough trail in high heat, nothing is ideal, but this combo works best in most scenarios for me. The peak on a dual sport helmet is pointless.
XD4 can use goggles as normal. And you can close the visor over the goggles. Peak is wind tunnel tested and I dont get buffeting at all.
Nolan N70-2 X is versatile with a removable chin guard too.
Short Beak - for the Woods / Not the sun.
We fortunate Missourians (land where the earth puked up green and gravel everywhere) get to play in the woods when we dual sport - but rarely get wide-open sunbathing like you SW dry open landers. While the short beak does nothing for sun management (as I can't even see the beak on my Bell D/S helmet) - it keeps the shield from getting scrapped up like a cheese block at Maggionos Italian Restaurant while riding with the shield up through the thick brush and tree limbs. We use the shield to control the rain and dust and the goggles to keep the airflow going.
The only reason to be riding so close that roust is a problem is if your racing. I ride with a Gmax helmet and love it. I ride about 50/50 and find googles to be useless. When I ride on road I use a clear face shield with sun glasses, and off road I ride with safety sun glasses and my shield up. My peak is one of the things I like best because I always seem to have the sun in my face. I also have a wind screen so at speed on the highway the peak isn't really a problem. One last thing if you really think your reflexes are that good that your going to always react fast enough to stop a rock from hitting you in the face, you will find out what I mean by googles being useless, and riding so close roust is a problem. Each to their own.
My road helmet has a peak. I use an SE4 off-road but a Variant Pro on-road. If you want to look cool, you need to raise the peak on your TLD basically as high as it goes.
Love ya man, but you forgot one major point. Why do ball caps have a bill? To block the sun.
I have several types of helmets and my go to (even for street and long interstate trips) is a dulasport helmet. That peak really blocks the sun well.
I wear a Bell MX-9 Adventure MIPS (light, plenty of air flow, comfortable and cheap!). I ride dual-sport, highway & off-road.The peak visor really blocks sun late in the afternoon and on some overgrown trails with briars or branches, a quick head dip lets the peak visor take the hit from the vegetation. So briars / branches are discouraged from getting to my neck and chest!
Adv helmets have much larger shields and wider field of view which is essential when riding trails. Try using a street helmet even on gravel roads. You are going to struggle picking a line.
I know this is an old Vid , and would would agree with most of what you have said , I ride road , Enduro & Dual sport / Adventure. Yes I agree for just road “ a road helmet ⛑
For just dirt a dirt helmet ⛑
But for Dual sport / Adventure riding we’re you can do big highway miles to get to the dirt , on day trips or Multiple day , week , months etc an ADV Helmet ⛑ is the best as one thing you left out when riding into the sun you can tilt your head down to block it out ( iv done this heaps ) but mostly agree for one style or the other only .
I thought it was just for the sun 😅👍
It is very useful for sun!
@@romroger yep sure is 👍 just never realised its other use as roost protection 🤔👍
Just follow one of the bigger adventure bikes offroad and you will definitely appreciate it for roost!
Bell MX-9 enables both face shield and goggles to be used simultaneously, its my go-to for winter rides, great for the commute sections on a cold morning, or when the downpour starts - just drop the sheild over the goggles, stop the rain getting in, lift it back up when its done and you've got dry clean goggles - don't even need to think about stopping.
Peaks are great for riding into the sun....you just dip your chin.... it's exceptional help in my humble opinion. 30+ years of riding dirt/sport bikes/ Harleys.... I'll be replacing my HJC with either a Shoei or Arai. I like the look and appreciate the "multi-tool" or "Jack of All Trades" flexibility that I've conceded the miniscule compromises. Again, just my humble opinion. Thanks for the video and sharing your side of the discussion
Thank you! You just saved me some time and money. I'm mostly on the pavement and I won't need a dual sport helmet.
Good review and really helpful. I prefer to ride on the street with a peak (visor) to block the sun and googles to allow max airflow. Here in the uk we often don't get much sun or warm weather, so when the sun does come out things can get real stuffy inside a full street helmet!
The one on my Firstgear helmet seemed to be ruddering my head around pretty firmly, so I just pulled it off. It'll sit on the shelf for when I figure I need it. :) Of course, I figured this out after ordering another road helmet from Amazon. That might get to take a U-turn back to the warehouse.
Have you had a chance to try the Nexx X-Wed2 helmet? It's really a great dual sport that converts to an off-road. Also cheaper than the Shoei.
A bit noisier than the Shoei but I love the Nexx I've got. $100s cheaper too! Love the options for cam mounts & the front vent also. Just wish the Bluetooth was sensibly priced.
I have 4 peaks in a drawer in my garage that I removed from new "adventure" helmets after a few rides. They may look cool for profiling but are basically useless and annoying for street riding. I tend to like adventure/dual sport helmets for their bigger eye ports/visors and generally better ventilation, but the peaks always end up coming off and staying off after a day or two. It seems there are touring helmets sold in European markets that resemble ADV helmets but without the peak, but we don't get most of them in the US.
I find the peak is the best protection for the visor as when in the up position the visor is protected and when riding the trails you are able to dip your had to brush tree branches over your head rather than across the visor. I have a helmet with a retractable out tinted visor so I'll often ride with that down and the main visor up to get the max air flow. Making the peak great protection for the main visor preventing it getting scratched. But for onroad definetly agree removing the peak makes life so much nicer.
Love my visor just to keep sun out.
Oh now I get it. Street helmet for the street,dirt helmet for the dirt and dualsport helmet for dualsport.