There definitely is such a thing as muscle memory :) Another great video, Seth! I find that exercises in a pool are very helpful with training. Just like in front of a mirror, you do the same movements in a shallow part of a pool, including the legs.
Perfect timing Seth, I was just trying to improve my short bh flip, because it usually lacks speed and I just bursh it, so this helps. Also you have best tt channel on yt 🙏🏼
I've been watching your channel for a few months now and it's crazy how much the production value has improved! Learned a lot from your tutorials and I look forward to seeing more content 😁
Thank you for your awesome content, with your videos I was able to identify my issues with my backhand and started training and it's now way better than it used to be.
Thank you so much for the racket and ball example using your hands. I always thought about this but when you said hit the ball a little late, now it makes sense.
Another brilliant video with a lot of gems - when to use the wrist vs the forearm for the BH flick, waiting for the ball to come to you for the FH flick etc. Also, I know you train quite a bit at Samson Dubina and I wish the academy the very best in finding a buyer so that it can continue to produce some of the finest players and coaches in the country. I hope to make it to a camp this year if my employer cooperates.
Hey Seth, I would love to see more of your games again. I'd think they take a bit less effort than these videos aswell, which are always top notch quality and informative! :)
i like blocking whole table.practice. it helps to bring your legs up to par.teaches you to move close to that ball. IE get in the right position for your stroke.
Thank you I love your videos straight to the point. I need to add to increase power to the BH flip you have to raise your elbow twist the paddle back as much as you can move your arm like a pendulum and twist your wrest very fast like opening a bottle cap once you touch the ball with the front edge of your paddle. Timing is very important. I practiced it few days ago and tested myself in a tournament, my rating score increased by 74 points.
Hey Seth, thanks for all the great videos! Thinking more about the BH drive but guess the theory is similar with the flip. So if the contact point was the same realitive to your body, when you hit a faster ball, you have less time between backswing and ball contact, so you need to start your swing later. Or another way to think about it is wait longer for the ball. Of course the reverse applies if you hit a slower shot, start your swing earlier. (for the same contact point) This makes so much sense but I didn't realise why I was missing BH drive when trying to hit the ball faster. Thanks again!
Thank you so much for the wonderful video! As usual, great explanation on these drills (if that's the word)! It was very valuable to me and I will definitely try this out on my next training session!
What I suggest for the backhand is to feel a shake at the end of a short stroke backhand combined with the punch like stroke. U see harimoto do this at times. Shake implies fast relaxed wrist action. Another idea. Set robot up 0.6 interval. Crack the ball with spin. Experiment with a slight delay in backswing. U stroke improves even at this pace. I like to have the idea to spot the ball onto the racket bit to delay backswing.
Nice video ... quite helpful ! I thought your training partner looked familiar, but I made the connection when you mentioned his name. I had the opportunity to photograph the March 2019 Open in Westchester Table Tennis Center, (Pleasantville, New York), and I remember Eliel playing there.
Delaying the backswing applies to most strokes like serve etc. Slow balls can give club players issues as their timing goes out. Rushing . One strategy plays on this by varying the pace of u returns.
Great video. Could we get a video about recovery between shots? So many times I find myself following the ball after I make a shot, to see if it lands, rather than getting in position for the next one. Saw some videos about making quicksteps but all I could found was videos in Chinese or Japanese.
I am struggeling with that too, though i think there isn't so much so tell about, except for maybe stay in motion in general and do little "hops" between shots. But if there is, I'd really would like to know as well ;-)
Step 1, have a good drill buddy.. I'm stuck there. Most players play for themselves and don't want to "give balls" instead they want to make the point (during a drill..!?!!) Seth: did you have to overcome the fear of hitting the table when returning over-the-table (short) shots at any point during your development? If so, any tips there? I always end up curling my wrist up in fear of breaking something therefore my loops and flicks (on FH) are atrocious when the ball is short-to-medium
OMG, I know Elio! He used to come to the club w/ his dad. I first met him when he was around 1700. Within a year of that he was around 2100. Within another year he was above 2300! Now he's near 2400, if not slightly above, as far as I last heard. Tell him I said hi! It's a small world. Like the time you did a video about a match you played against a strong Indian kid, whom I also knew. Where do you train? Are you near Massachusetts?
Great video! Will go to the gym immediately... Btw, will you test Hybrid MK? Lots of people seem to like it very much. I am thinking of testing it on my FH (where I play K3 atm).
Hey Seth nice video. Do you know any pratice excersie and tips how to improve loosly wrist and simultaneously stable grip (especially fingers on head racket)..
It was a long time ago, i would like to post a more recent one if we get to play again. He cleaned me out pretty good. He was able to do many of the opposite things I expected which made him deadly, flipping when I was trying to make him push. Counter looping when I thought he would block ect
Thank you, I have found it to be faster than Viscaria it has a higher throw less dwell time slightly less spin because of that. It has less feeling I would say but it had feeling for sure. The sweet spot is bigger than viscaria I think because it’s a little thicker. Overall I have loved the change and don’t think I’ll change back.
Hi Pech, at the end of the video you say your forehand is really front and you have to turn your waist , this is what i understand. when you try to show the movement of torsion seated on the cheer you move the left arm to the right, but when you play your left arm dont go to the right like you want to catch the ball with the left end . If the left arm remain straight how can yo turn your waist ? so i suggest you to do some esercises they send the balls and you catch it with the left hand , the you do the normal exercise . I hope you undertand what i mean . Thanks
Thanks for another great vid :) Got a few related questions if you feel like answering: 1) What do you think about playing backhand flip to return almost every serve with a stiga cybershape? I don't think it's the best blade for flipping but I wonder if it's viable and I should have this play style or not (I played for a long time with both cybershape and FZD ALC and with FZD I know I can flip most serves but with cybershape I'm not sure and afraid to commit to practicing hard on it) To be honest the main reason I'm thinking about it is that most of the times in my league matches ppl serve short/medium long side spin to my forehand side and I can deal with it like 70% of the time but still pretty high numbers of time I return a high ball and they smash me :( 2) I started working on wrist/forearm drills at home (no time for real gym anymore) What do you think about these drills? th-cam.com/video/x7YtlkXq5V4/w-d-xo.html Any advice for more good drills one can do at home?
do u think a Returnboard for backhand topspin training is a must when i have a good Robot already? i can see i could get more consistency with a returnboard maybe, but then again wont i train my shot in a way that it is maybe too easily blockable too ? have you tought about that?
Do you recommend engaging your right leg (quads or glutes) to add extra momentum when forehand flipping or backhand flicking? Additionally, the tip of waiting for the ball to go toward your inner elbow in order to engage the forearm and wrist to forehand flip sounds awesome- definitely have to try. Do you have a similar trick for the backhand flick in order to better gauage and time the flick?
In backhand or forehand? I would say for forehand it’s important to move into the shot with weight transfer. For backhand it can be difficult if you have a more in-front shorter swing if you have a larger swing and play further away from the table you can really get good weight transfer
The robot is great for getting in shape and correcting some footwork, but I do not recommend that it becomes your training partner I spent 2.5 years on it my match play took a big nosedive I quit it 6 months ago and went back to people right now I am starting to advance again. overall, the robot training improved a lot of things, but has it helped me gain a higher rating? so far not but I feel like it's starting to come together to be an improvement "in the long run".
Olá sou do Brasil! E Quais borrachas lisas, você me aconselha para montar uma raquete competitiva, eu jogo normalmente, perto e meio longe da mesa, gosto de jogo rápido! A Butterfly 05 FX é uma boa escolha, tanto para o Back e Forehand?
I still play with VS unlimited and love it more and more! I got a second racket as a spare but it is not like my original I think I have to break it in to get it to have more feeling because it feels a bit stiff
I play with K3 and VS unlimited, I’m really liking the combo good speed high throw, excellent spin and the touch is there not like viscaria but it has decent touch that I’ve gotten used to.
Uhm, there is such a thing as muscle memory. Maybe you are making a joke about memory not existing inside a muscle, idk. Its like saying there is no such thing as hay fever because allergic reactions does not give you actual fever.
For your videos, I always hit like even before I start watching them because I already known they're gonna be very useful.
Thanks my friend! I always want to put out the very best for you and others :)
There definitely is such a thing as muscle memory :)
Another great video, Seth!
I find that exercises in a pool are very helpful with training. Just like in front of a mirror, you do the same movements in a shallow part of a pool, including the legs.
Perfect timing Seth, I was just trying to improve my short bh flip, because it usually lacks speed and I just bursh it, so this helps. Also you have best tt channel on yt 🙏🏼
Glad I could help!
I've been watching your channel for a few months now and it's crazy how much the production value has improved! Learned a lot from your tutorials and I look forward to seeing more content 😁
Thank you for your awesome content, with your videos I was able to identify my issues with my backhand and started training and it's now way better than it used to be.
2500+ Level advice. Let's go.
Congrats from Portugal....👏
Thank you so much for the racket and ball example using your hands. I always thought about this but when you said hit the ball a little late, now it makes sense.
Pro coaching. Thank you again.
Thanks glad you found it useful!
Another brilliant video with a lot of gems - when to use the wrist vs the forearm for the BH flick, waiting for the ball to come to you for the FH flick etc.
Also, I know you train quite a bit at Samson Dubina and I wish the academy the very best in finding a buyer so that it can continue to produce some of the finest players and coaches in the country. I hope to make it to a camp this year if my employer cooperates.
Hey Seth, I would love to see more of your games again. I'd think they take a bit less effort than these videos aswell, which are always top notch quality and informative! :)
I love these lessons. They are great drill exercises.
Hey, love your videos.
Can you please make a video on the specifics of the shakehand grip?
I noticed that tiny changes can make a lot of difference.
The mini forehand counter though. Chef kiss*
Haha 👌
i like blocking whole table.practice. it helps to bring your legs up to par.teaches you to move close to that ball. IE get in the right position for your stroke.
How about a video on return board training?
Thank you I love your videos straight to the point. I need to add to increase power to the BH flip you have to raise your elbow twist the paddle back as much as you can move your arm like a pendulum and twist your wrest very fast like opening a bottle cap once you touch the ball with the front edge of your paddle. Timing is very important. I practiced it few days ago and tested myself in a tournament, my rating score increased by 74 points.
You have the best TT videos on the internet
Thank you! I try my best 😁
Hey Seth, thanks for all the great videos!
Thinking more about the BH drive but guess the theory is similar with the flip.
So if the contact point was the same realitive to your body, when you hit a faster ball, you have less time between backswing and ball contact, so you need to start your swing later. Or another way to think about it is wait longer for the ball.
Of course the reverse applies if you hit a slower shot, start your swing earlier. (for the same contact point)
This makes so much sense but I didn't realise why I was missing BH drive when trying to hit the ball faster. Thanks again!
Thank you so much for the wonderful video! As usual, great explanation on these drills (if that's the word)! It was very valuable to me and I will definitely try this out on my next training session!
Great to hear best of luck!
Finally a new guide video!
What I suggest for the backhand is to feel a shake at the end of a short stroke backhand combined with the punch like stroke. U see harimoto do this at times. Shake implies fast relaxed wrist action.
Another idea. Set robot up 0.6 interval. Crack the ball with spin. Experiment with a slight delay in backswing. U stroke improves even at this pace.
I like to have the idea to spot the ball onto the racket bit to delay backswing.
Lots of great tips! You really have a passion for this game and it shows.
Thanks man, I think there’s a lot to learn from it and it’s a ton of fun to keep trying to improve
Nice video ... quite helpful !
I thought your training partner looked familiar, but I made the connection when you mentioned his name. I had the opportunity to photograph the March 2019 Open in Westchester Table Tennis Center, (Pleasantville, New York), and I remember Eliel playing there.
Thanks glad it was helpful Eliel is great glad he could come on for the practice session
Nice. Always according tô the actual table tennis.
Delaying the backswing applies to most strokes like serve etc.
Slow balls can give club players issues as their timing goes out. Rushing .
One strategy plays on this by varying the pace of u returns.
Great tut 👍👍👍
As always, awesome. many thanks.
Great video.
Could we get a video about recovery between shots? So many times I find myself following the ball after I make a shot, to see if it lands, rather than getting in position for the next one.
Saw some videos about making quicksteps but all I could found was videos in Chinese or Japanese.
I am struggeling with that too, though i think there isn't so much so tell about, except for maybe stay in motion in general and do little "hops" between shots.
But if there is, I'd really would like to know as well ;-)
Step 1, have a good drill buddy.. I'm stuck there. Most players play for themselves and don't want to "give balls" instead they want to make the point (during a drill..!?!!)
Seth: did you have to overcome the fear of hitting the table when returning over-the-table (short) shots at any point during your development? If so, any tips there? I always end up curling my wrist up in fear of breaking something therefore my loops and flicks (on FH) are atrocious when the ball is short-to-medium
Another great video.. Simple and short 👍 Thanks again dear Seth 🙏
Thank you :)
OMG, I know Elio! He used to come to the club w/ his dad. I first met him when he was around 1700. Within a year of that he was around 2100. Within another year he was above 2300! Now he's near 2400, if not slightly above, as far as I last heard. Tell him I said hi! It's a small world. Like the time you did a video about a match you played against a strong Indian kid, whom I also knew. Where do you train? Are you near Massachusetts?
so informative, thank you!
Great video! Will go to the gym immediately...
Btw, will you test Hybrid MK? Lots of people seem to like it very much. I am thinking of testing it on my FH (where I play K3 atm).
Hey Seth nice video. Do you know any pratice excersie and tips how to improve loosly wrist and simultaneously stable grip (especially fingers on head racket)..
Just love all of your videos man! I notice you use the tibhar vs unlimited. What rubbers do you pair it with?
thanks for the tips! >>> are you going to upload that match u VS Franch player ! it looks great
It was a long time ago, i would like to post a more recent one if we get to play again. He cleaned me out pretty good. He was able to do many of the opposite things I expected which made him deadly, flipping when I was trying to make him push. Counter looping when I thought he would block ect
@@PechPongTT haha no worries ,but ...I'm sure u learned a lot from that loos... keep it up
thank you!
Great stuff, thanks!
Hello i enjoyed watching your videos.im 35 and i have some tips if my own you may or may not of mentioned.
Best instructional videos out there! Would love to hear your thoughts on your blade and what you like about it compared to your old Viscaria
Thank you, I have found it to be faster than Viscaria it has a higher throw less dwell time slightly less spin because of that. It has less feeling I would say but it had feeling for sure. The sweet spot is bigger than viscaria I think because it’s a little thicker. Overall I have loved the change and don’t think I’ll change back.
Good explanation
Can u post some of your matches video 😊😊😊
Thank you for the video! Where do you get the return board? I had one but it was of a low quality. Do you mind putting a link for yours? Thanks!
Hi Pech, at the end of the video you say your forehand is really front and you have to turn your waist , this is what i understand.
when you try to show the movement of torsion seated on the cheer you move the left arm to the right, but when you play your left arm dont go to the right like you want to catch the ball with the left end . If the left arm remain straight how can yo turn your waist ? so i suggest you to do some esercises they send the balls and you catch it with the left hand , the you do the normal exercise . I hope you undertand what i mean . Thanks
Thanks for another great vid :)
Got a few related questions if you feel like answering:
1) What do you think about playing backhand flip to return almost every serve with a stiga cybershape?
I don't think it's the best blade for flipping but I wonder if it's viable and I should have this play style or not
(I played for a long time with both cybershape and FZD ALC and with FZD I know I can flip most serves but with cybershape I'm not sure and afraid to commit to practicing hard on it)
To be honest the main reason I'm thinking about it is that most of the times in my league matches ppl serve short/medium long side spin to my forehand side and I can deal with it like 70% of the time but still pretty high numbers of time I return a high ball and they smash me :(
2) I started working on wrist/forearm drills at home (no time for real gym anymore)
What do you think about these drills?
th-cam.com/video/x7YtlkXq5V4/w-d-xo.html
Any advice for more good drills one can do at home?
do u think a Returnboard for backhand topspin training is a must when i have a good Robot already?
i can see i could get more consistency with a returnboard maybe, but then again wont i train my shot in a way that it is maybe too easily blockable too ? have you tought about that?
Use these new skills to flip an omlette or a fresh batch of pancakes on the stove
Exactly
You're the best 👌
Thanks :)
Do you recommend engaging your right leg (quads or glutes) to add extra momentum when forehand flipping or backhand flicking?
Additionally, the tip of waiting for the ball to go toward your inner elbow in order to engage the forearm and wrist to forehand flip sounds awesome- definitely have to try. Do you have a similar trick for the backhand flick in order to better gauage and time the flick?
Seth, some coaches emphasize using the legs and torso to shift the weight forward for power. Can you respond on that?
In backhand or forehand? I would say for forehand it’s important to move into the shot with weight transfer. For backhand it can be difficult if you have a more in-front shorter swing if you have a larger swing and play further away from the table you can really get good weight transfer
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The robot is great for getting in shape and correcting some footwork, but I do not recommend that it becomes your training partner I spent 2.5 years on it my match play took a big nosedive I quit it 6 months ago and went back to people right now I am starting to advance again. overall, the robot training improved a lot of things, but has it helped me gain a higher rating? so far not but I feel like it's starting to come together to be an improvement "in the long run".
What do you do for a living sir? I mean how do you earn money
Olá sou do Brasil! E Quais borrachas lisas, você me aconselha para montar uma raquete competitiva, eu jogo normalmente, perto e meio longe da mesa, gosto de jogo rápido! A Butterfly 05 FX é uma boa escolha, tanto para o Back e Forehand?
Tenergy 05 forehand & 05fx Backhand 👍
Please add Turkish subtitles to your videos
Did you change from Tibhar VS unlimited to TB Alc?
I still play with VS unlimited and love it more and more! I got a second racket as a spare but it is not like my original I think I have to break it in to get it to have more feeling because it feels a bit stiff
What's your current setup?
I play with K3 and VS unlimited, I’m really liking the combo good speed high throw, excellent spin and the touch is there not like viscaria but it has decent touch that I’ve gotten used to.
Seth must only know the short backhand flip, not the tall one
Uhm, there is such a thing as muscle memory. Maybe you are making a joke about memory not existing inside a muscle, idk. Its like saying there is no such thing as hay fever because allergic reactions does not give you actual fever.
It's flick not flip