American Reacts to Norwegian Hiking & Camping Laws
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- As an American I have learned that Norwegians love hiking and camping on a totally different level than Americans. Today I am very excited to learn all about how you should hike and camp in Norway as well as some tips for people like me who have never camped out in nature. If you enjoyed the video feel free to leave a comment, like, or subscribe for more!
The reason for dogs having to be on a leash in the forests at certain times of the year is to avoid them chasing and disturbing wild animals and birds during the time they give birth and while there are newborn animals not yet able to take care of themselves.
Most people think it's so that one dog does not attack another dog, but really, it's to protect wildlife.
This is also why we need to stop getting so many cats, they kill so much wildlife it's insane.
This is also prohibited in the US in most states. If your dog attacks wild animals (primarily big game), you can be liable and fined for that, or the dog can be put down.
Not only wild animals but livestock also, and it’s not only in the forest, it’s everywhere👍
My basset hound got attacked by another dog while we were foraging blueberries. His ear got injured; expensive operation to repair. He had insurance so it was taken care of. But the point is for dog owners to be responsible for their pets' behaviour.
@@HomewithAurora
Poor dog 🥺❤️
I have dogs myself, and what irritates me is that people think that when the “båndtvang” is over they can let the dog loose. Yes you can, but only if you have full control. Many don’t know the rules good enough unfortunately.
He forgot to mention/left out that along the coast there are sertain islands you are not perited to dock on or enter because of the seabirds laying eggs there😊. Though divebombing seagulls are a fairly good deterent on their own😅😂
Don't go boating too near the royal family's beach residence (Mågerø); you'll get checked by the guards. 🤣🥳🤣🇧🇻
When it comes to keeping your dog on a lead during those months, its mainly because of them not causing harm to young animals and scaring other hikers.
And the wild animals give birth to their calfs😊
The law on having to keep your dog on a lead, is only to protect wildlife at their most vulnerable time of year. It does not take humans into consideration at all. As a dog owner you are supposed to be aware of other people's fear of dogs or your dogs behaviour towards other people, but that has nothing to do with the "båndtvang" (the law for keeping dogs on their lead.
It's not just because of wild animals. Farmers let their animals loose in the wild during the summer months and dogs love chasing sheep.
@@KristinGfugl 👏👏👏
@@arnelilleseter4755 Exactly, many seem to forget about livestock.
In many areas the “båndtvang” is expended for the safety of livestock.
Allemansrätten (Freedom to roam) This is a nordic tradition originaly from Norway/Sweden at the turn of the century (1900:s with much older origins) It's applicable in Norway, Sweden, Iceland and Finland. It's great just remember to keep the forest clean.
It’s an ancient law🙄
@@ingersundeid7948 Yep. It's old Viking laws. They were actually written down, too.
The right to roam (and harvest plants for consumption) in «utmark»(outside «innmark») is first mentioned in the Norwegian Gulating law, the oldest known and preserved law in the Nordic countries. The Gulating («Thing» referring to a viking parlament and court of law) was a regional thing for the west coast of Norway from 900-1300 A.D. The oldest fragments of the Gulating law is from the 1100 century, so we are talking about a Norwegian right that is over a thousand years old. And still working🤗
@@annehopland1947 This fantastic, but if we trace it this far back we were all Götar (Danish) because it's also included in Västgötalagen. It a bit younger (around 1250) but you can not deny our shared heritage. I do apologies for leaving Iceland out, they also have the right to roam. But our modern Danish brothers sadly do not have the right any longer. But looking to Denmarks geography it's not that strange.
Norwegian rules seem actually quite strict. In Finland you can camp as long as it's not permanent and area doesn't get damaged. You have also right use water from many wells and springs (there are some rules).
Around 9 min In I am thinking: My mind is blown by how little freedom there is in the land of the free.
I have read stories about entitled people.
It blows my mind when the OPs family owns forest land and the entitled people in the story is trespassing in the forest!!! In the middle of nowhere someone was sitting down and how rude!?!
They have "allemannsretten" in other countries too, IIRC all of the nordic countries have it, as well as Scotland
Indeed, the right to roam, is quite often actually called Nordic Every mans Right. And while there are nyanses between different countries. The basic principle is the same. You are allowed to roam/hike pretty much anywhere, the exceptions being yards (so ~150m radius from housing), cultivated land and industrial, military etc. installations. Note, the land can also be privately owned, but this is still ok. You are also allowed to camp for a night or two where you can roam. And foraging stuff like berries and mushroom is also ok.
When it comes to fishing, setting up fires... then the different rules apply.
It's *slightly* more complicated then he describes.
You can for instance walk/ski on farmland too.
But there's a *lot* more restrictions.
It doesn't apply in all seasons etc.
Treating it as a distinction between innmark and utmark just makes it a lot simpler.
But in both cases the rule of thumb is don't inconvenience anyone and be respectful.
Don't disturb animals, trample crops, harden soil, make noises, intrude on peoples privacy etc...
I'd stay of any farmland in any season outside of winter personally to be on the safe side.
You guys have a lot more nature then us, it's just a lot less accessible to people.
The first step for any American who is considering traveling to Norway to go hiking in the mountains or in the lowlands is to contact the Norwegian Tourist Association first. They know about everything there is to know about hiking in Norway. Whether you are planning the trip, or whether you are simply going to use their cabins, which can be found over most of Norway. Anyway, ask them your questions and they will surely help you! GOOD TRIP !!
Great summery of the right to roam. As a related topic to the right to roam - the Norwegian Trekking Associated (DNT) is a large part of our culture of roaming. Maybe it deserves its own video?
DNT is life, DNT is love.
I've seen some comments saying the reason for the dog leash law is to protect wildlife, but this is not the case. The law only applies during a certain time of the year, but the wildlife is out in the wilderness all year around so that doesn't really make much sense. The real reason is because many places in Norway farmer let their animals roam freely in the mountains from late spring to early fall.
It's a really fun, but time consuming, endeavor to go up in the mountains and find all the sheep and then bring them back down.
So with that much livestock out and about it can become a real nuisance for the farmers if peoples' dogs chase/injure/kill their animals. I've heard quite a few farmers saying that if they see a dog off its leash up in the mountains they'll just shoot it without a second thought.
Foraging is so underrated. You can easily pick a years supply of berries and mushrooms in the forest in just a few days, especially if you are in the east of Norway.
Some people travel here just for that reason. A couple from Poland come here every year to pick cloudberries. Cloudberries are also called "the gold of the forest" in Norwegian, and they make a good amount of money selling them.
I usually only pick raspberries and blueberries, and they literally grow right outside my door.
East, south, west, north, there is a shitton of berries everywhere
I have seen people selling cloudberries for like 300-350 nok for a kilo... its truly is gold.
The 2 day rule, I believe is to give groun vegetation (like grass) time to recover. If you leave your tent on the same spot for a long time, the grass will suffer.
And you can move your tent a hundred meters or so and keep camping near indefinitely
We got Allemansrätten in Sweden too
April to August is the spring and summer time in norway, this is the time farm animals roam freely, if your dog runs free and attack these farm animals, you have to put your dog down and pay the farmer back, so having it on a leash is for the dog and farm animals protection.
and this is also when you can find most kids and family with kids also doing hiking and activities like camping, it would suck if your dog ran up to a kid on the same hike by accident and even if friendly scared a kid, or if an adult was scared you will be held responsible even if the dog didn’t do anything but jump excited at the person so for your dogs own safety having it on a leash means no unnecessary accidents, which would ultimately only have consequences for the dog.
But we also have farm areas gates open during autumn and winter so kids and animals can roam freely in these areas and play or let their dogs run. Kids love this cause if there is snow in the winter these place are great for sledding down the hills
when it comes to the whole picking up your garbage and such, another fun fact. MOST or alot of norwegians will also just pick and litter if theyre hiking. which shows how much we try to perserve our nature
Exactly. It is an unwritten law that you take more rubbish out of nature than you brought in.
I stopped my car yesterday to pick up an empty beer can
@@lillm6874 well thats like 2 nok if you pant it sooo ... people throwing away money, sadly I see alot of that, I have a plasticbag with me when I am out so I can pick up trash if I see it along the trail.
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That’s true😊
We live on a dairy farm, and it’s very dangerous if beer or soda cans lands in the infield. Because then it’ll be cut into smaller pieces and can eventually kill cattle, cuts up their stomach 😢
Greate video as allways.
About the dog ,it's so that the dog cannot chase or harm cattle, sheep, goats, poultry, reindeer, horses or game, but also to protect the game's eggs and.nests.
In norway there are alot of dogs.
Wild animals also😊
Allemannsrett...Yes, it is a good thing. I live in the countryside of Trøndelag county near a forest and salmon river. I go picnicking and foraging and sometimes clean up the riverbank of debris and trash. It is a way of giving back to Nature. People on a hike sometimes get lost and pass by my property. It is lovely to greet them and sometimes strike a conversation with strangers.
12:22: How they came up with the two nights rule is that it's called a weekend. :)
13:12: Yes! Take your trash home and remember to bring a shovel...
Norwegian culture: hiking, trust, kvikklunsj and trolls.
American culture: weapons, mistrust, macdonalds and trolls.
Different types of trolls, just so that is said.
PS: Very few people care about "trespassers" on private land, most are just there to walk from A to B or taking a stroll, no harm done.
PS2: Even during bonfire ban periods you are allowed to, when it's safe and you've cleared an area, fire up a coffee bonfire for instance, it's just a matter of SAFETY.
3:02: No, it is not a "completely Norwegian" concept. It is originally (to the best of my knowlegde) a Swedish tradition but is valid in Norway and Finland as well as both have been part of Sweden for long times, Finland from 1200-something to 1809 and Norway 1814-1905.
The right has roots back into medieval times
7:20 not exactly true. You can walk up to any cabin you want.. you can't camp closer than 150m from a cabin though.
There are regions of the US where hiking is ingrained. The PNW, northern new england. Colorado/Utah
Wild blueberries is the best taste ever!
You can fish everywhere there is saltwater, and a few freshwater lakes.
Rivers and ponds is usually on private land and there is a fee to fish there, as it is "cultivated land".
Alot of money is spended every year to keep small ponds an rivers healthy, and to breed fish. And there is also a size limit on all that is caught, unless there is a unwanted species of fish.
There is also strict rules on the fishing gear.
Most freshwater species have no minimum size
He also did't mention that using any kind of motorized transport is in general forbidden in "utmark", including lakes and seaplane and helicopter landings. There are however exceptions for certain areas and lakes, and you may apply for an exception in certain cases. Boating in the sea is also excepted of course. Also the sami people are allowed to use snowmobiles and ATV's.
Only if they own reindeer. Other than that it is more of a northern thing, most people can drive snow mobiles on the northern
In Germany there is a similar law, which allows you to roam in every forest. Camping can be restricted, depending on the state.
Spent some weeks in New England and Canada many years ago. My wife is an avid hiker and she was shocked that even in very remote areas of NH and Vermont, there were almost no "legal" footpaths or real access to nature. "NO TRESPASSING" everywhere. Very, very strange! Regarding fishing and foraging, this is still very common among many people. Top class food for free, combined with some fresh air AFK. Salt water fishing all year, picking mussels and oysters, brown crabs in the season (fishing at quiet nights from a small boat, using a powerful torch and a pole with a net), as well as picking berries (most are edible) and of course mushrooms. But you MUST know your mushrooms. Because there are some deadly varieties. No need to be an expert, If you can identify 3-5 safe species you are good to go. Yes, and dogs must be leached in certain periods to avoid disturbing wildlife during differen breeding seasons, as well to protect sheep and lamb, grazing almost everywhere!
This is freakin’ genius!! Norway is such a clever country!!
Where I live in Canada, we pay a deposit and get a portion back if we bring our bottles/cans to a “ Recycle Depot”. Most people are too lazy to do this as the $ returned to you is so little. They just put these items out for bi-weekly curb side collection with recyclable items that aren’t refundable.
Dogs on a leash are because many animals such as deer give birth in early spring. there are also a lot of sheep etc. grazing in the summer. And dogs can attack them. Many Norwegian farmers have animals grazing in nature in the summer.
New Zealand has had a type of 'right to roam', too, but there are cases where private property owners have blocked access to waterways. It was called 'Queens Chain' which means that the public has access to the waterfront and it can't be held in private hands, so if you're walking or boating along a river or a ocean beach, someone can't build a fence and say, 'private beach'. But now, it's gone and they call it a 'myth'. It was more tradition than law. So, now, private land owners can and do block access. Sadly, greed has prevailed in New Zealand property law.
I got a hiking path thru my property, i dont mind. Its nice imo
Camping in Norway is simple -- fewer types of landscapes/climates. Nobody in Norway needs to deal with trying to camp in, e.g., a scorching hot desert. (A guy who admits he doesn't live near any of America's magnificent national parks speaks on behalf of all Americans?!)
On one hand, Tyler claims Americans don't really camp; on the other hand, Tyler claims to know how Americans behave when camping.
@@SilvanaDil Well, when speaking for all Americans, I guess you have to ask him. But landscapes? wtf? the Country stretches from Artic tundra in The North to almost central European forest in the South. From -25 Celsius during winter to +30 in the summer. Some parts are forests some parts are coastal landscapes in the north you have miles and miles of open terrain with barely a bush. At the coast, you can have naked cliffs and storms that can throw a man into the ocean if it is really bad. In the mountains, it can be hot during the day, and freeze your water bottle during the night. Camping in Norway if you go into the wilderness is just as challenging as anywhere else. Don't say stuff you clearly have no clue about.
@@The-Vega-Islands - Who doesn't know about what s/he speaks? The north-south (and east-west) size and location on the globe of the USA dwarfs Norway.
+30 C? Child's play. It has reached +56 C here.
@@SilvanaDil Oh dear - you are viewing a TH-cam channel and not a public information site. You are allowed to use your head.
Dogs on a leash is due to farm animals are out in the mountains during summer. Like sheep and cows...
Farmers do this to save the cultivated land to cut the grass and save it for winter, so you can't have the animal grasing there in summer.
Also wild animals 😊
The reason for dog on leash is because the wild animal like moose and deer has calf’s
*calves
And because of livestock. In many areas they expand the “båndtvang” because of the livestock.
Where I live (in the mountains) you have to have your dog on leash until October👍 But many tourists don’t care, so every year livestock are hunted by dogs.
Jeez! Tyler needs to get out more. 🙃
This law is a thing that every one over the age of 7 should know. Bothe haciera, campists forever.
When you're camping out in the woods. Most people who do do not want to camp near cabins or other buildings.
Then it is better to camp in your own garden.
So what's the point of going out camping.
Most people who camp do it for the nature experience and to get away from people / civil society.
Camping is about recharging your batteries by experiencing nature, silence, getting physically tired, sitting by the fire with good friends to solve your own and the world's problems.
10 times better than going to a psychologist.
Please do a video on the poisonous and edible plants and especially mushrooms i Norway. We have some deadly mushrooms and tourists get hospitalized every year
Yes two of them is the red and white fly agaric you get parmanent kidney failure!
@@eddale5557 red isn't actually deadly, but still not something you should eat. People dry it up for "medicinal" purposes, but it still contains toxins.
Not to bash other countries, but as i go to a specific fishing spot every year i do see swedish, polish and other eastern beer cans and garbage.
They usually dont care as much as we do
There is a limited right to roam in England and a similar system to Norway in Scotland.
The Nordics are generally outdoors people though Norway does take the Cake as the most outdoorish people out of all of us, Denmark and I believe Sweden does too, have a Allemansretten but it not completely the same in Denmark private forest is only to be walk in, on paths between 10ish to 18 o'clock this is too give animal a break you also cant leave those paths because you might step on new plants or conservation areas and in hunting season those private forest are closed of with warning signs. Then we have public forest where you are allowed at all hours but if camping you have to use area designed for it so you dont start a forest fire in summer it gets quite dry here. Swedens version I believe is somewhere inbetween but maybe ask a swede to be sure.
Max two nights at the same campsite: friday-sunday
The right to roam is fundamental in Norway, it is a core value.
Hunting season starts at 22th August (which last until 28th February for some animals).. Between April and this date; norway want to prohibit animal chasing cubs, animals outside of hunting season.
Can I, as a typical Norwegian citizen react back? Thanks! You amriks managed to rack up a million hippies at woodstock, play Jimi Hendricks, and land on the Moon.. Thanks for nice lifeflicks, the flintsones, scooby doo, what not. Vegas ,New York..been there, Thanks from the deepest of my heart for all the moments, nice!
Stood on top of the North world trade center, business trip, industry things. .:)
When do you plan to move to Norway? You are welcome.😀
you need to make one about USA hiking because yes a lot of lot of people in usa goes camping hiking. go visit alaska
Norwegians should not hike in the Alaskan wilderness.
We'd just end up as "BAMSEMUMS".... 🤪
Love from Norway 🇳🇴
@@ninaelsbethgustavsen2131 .. lol yes most would end up dead there.. Do you know what we call 2 tourist blondines at Svalbard--- " Bamsemums" , you see it is a true story
@@ninaelsbethgustavsen2131 I just talked to Lars Monsen,, he said ,,just shout Bear Bear..hey Bear, hey hey bear
@@kendexter
Ah well, the Svalbard polar bears tend to prefer eating tourist students who go camping !
Their warn off systems some times fail... >⛺️< 😵🐻❄️
My mum and my grand parents have all lived in Longyearbyen.
Luckily they all had brown hair...
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@@ninaelsbethgustavsen2131 he he , sweet. had my famely there as well back in the glory coal days
You have to react to something with Lars Monsen!😄
You should see the movie " nokas "from 2010, movie made from real bank robbery here in norway :)
Pretty good movie.
I used to go to school with Pål 😮
Americans would probably call Norwegian campaign for an expedition. 😜 😂
many European countries have a freedom to roam or "everyman´s rights" as we call them. Esp. in Estonia, Finland, Iceland, Norway and Sweden, and we try to learn to respect the nature and other people´s properties etc. from a very young age.
It's not a given that merely granting such a right would make people take care of nature. Still, I imagine having no right to roam would mean less sense of responsibility for your surroundings. Why would I help maintain what I'm not really allowed to enjoy? Kinda a tragedy of the non-commons I guess.
The kind of trust that we share in Norway, and willingness for "dugnad" may be a requirement for this behaviour to emerge? It's a really easy lesson to teach children though, as it makes intuitive sense that not ruining stuff leaves more good stuff for everyone, and everyone includes me.
Hi Tyler,
Have a look at this real grocery shopping cost video.
She is so accurate. Im a Norwegian. ;)
Love your videos.
Anything you are wondering about, just let me know and ill make a video for you or you can feel free to ask any questions. To many questions, just call me instead. ;)
Norwegian that have lived 15 years abroad in different continents.
Wait why do you only do videos on Norway? Other than wanting to learn of course.. do you have norwegian ancestry?
Why would they leave trash in the nature😱
I will write under each video. Start learning Norsk.
USA got freedom on paper. Norway (and the rest of the Nordic countries) actually gives us that.
I'm suprised you haven't run out of content yet.
The dog needs to be on a leash bc there are baby animals being born and birds nesting.
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The Swedish (Allemansrätten) freedom to roam is a right protected by the law that allows you to sleep and eat and walk pretty much wherever you want. The only thing you have to pay is respect for nature and the animals living there.
Most restrictions when it comes to this is for safety and protection of wildlife.
Wildlife and livestock 👍
It's important to keep your dog on a leach so they don't kill/scare to death very young wild animal children; Chicks, elg/deer/ reindeer calves, bear cubs and so on.
And livestock
@@lillm6874 Yes, thank you! I forgot about that.
awesome
🤦♀️ again...so many people in America hike and camp...dude, you need to get out more 😂 I'm actually out camping now at the Grand Canyon..hiking every day. There are soooo many people here.
* Because if you let your dog roam freely, it might just start a bonfire.
* Once you've passed 50 you're too busy picking up your own nuts anyway.
All the nordic countries have right to roam laws.
Everything is controversial in America 😂
Birds in nest with chickens, deer and all life in forrest have babies...no dogs please!
And livestock
we also have the right to the common man in Sweden
Individual responsibility and americans dont mix well. Don't expect anything like this here 😂
We have a right to roam in the UK.
Because dogs eat sheep...
Nothing special .That's in the most European country's
Camping in Norway is simple -- fewer types of landscapes/climates. Nobody in Norway needs to deal with trying to camp in, e.g., a scorching hot desert.
(A guy who admits he doesn't live near any of America's magnificent national parks speaks on behalf of all Americans?!)
Simple 😂 Someone is offended it sounds like. Go to Alaska and camp, see how easy it is in below freezing temps or in the snow with lots of dense forests and steep mountains.
I wouldn’t say you are helping out either with your snarky comments, it really doesn’t make Americans look good. I can easily diferentiate as I know several Americans that are kind. You might think you are helping your country, but by being negative you are casting a worse light on the US than he is with some of his exaggerations.
“To deal with”? Norwegians don’t have to ‘deal with’ camping. It is something done for pleasure. Also, it doesn’t take a National park to do so. It can be done almost everywhere. So pretty simple yes. We are easily pleased.
@@mari97216 - "Exaggerations?" No, Tyler has barely any knowledge about the USA beyond his room.
Try camping in the arctic, we have that you know. Not much different to be honest. Very few plants and deadly weather.
On one hand, you claim Americans don't really camp; on the other hand, you claim to know how Americans behave when camping.
Camp like Norwegian camping. He explains the difference.
@@Kraakesolv - He said that Americans wouldn't pick up the trash. How would he know? He claims he doesn't camp. He claims Americans don't camp.
Dammit, I demand the right to misunderstand whatever I want! USA! USA!
@@SilvanaDil 83% of Americans are urban-dwelling lardballs, so Tyler is not wrong.
Ugh, you again. You can stop watching, you know?
Well it is "wild camping" in the US so it is not much diffrent.