Phase 2 Enterprise VS USS Reliant - Both Ways - Star Trek Starship Battles

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ค. 2024
  • #startrek #starships #startrekbridgecommander
    Today we are going to put the Phase II Enterprise against the USS Relaint.
    The Phase II Enterprise is not as advanced as the Enterprise Refit, so this is going to be a serious challenge for the Enterprise.
    Played from both sides in Star Trek Bridge Commander Kobayshimaru.
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  • @TheCormTube
    @TheCormTube 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    "Warp! Warp!... engineering...why can't we warp!?"
    "Erm....the whole of engineering is gone sir....including the warp core....."

    • @martinbuhlmeier3138
      @martinbuhlmeier3138 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Funny Time 🤣!

    • @IceGavel
      @IceGavel 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I mean, with how badly damaged the starboard nacelle was, I'm willing to bet warp drive was out.

    • @martinbuhlmeier3138
      @martinbuhlmeier3138 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@IceGavel 🤣

  • @logicplague
    @logicplague 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    "I was gonna warp away and conduct repairs"
    Secondary hull: Dude...I couldn't be saved by Jesus.

    • @pyronuke4768
      @pyronuke4768 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      That and you flew right into the forward torpedo tubes' sights.

  • @pyronuke4768
    @pyronuke4768 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Phase II actually got decently far into preproduction before canceling. Most of the season's episodes had already been scripted, the sets were under construction, and even some test screenings had been filmed. But then Star Wars came out and Paramount wanted a big Sci-Fi film to rival it, so the pilot episode was given a cinema level budget and became the first movie.
    And if you're still bummed out Phase II never happened, it lives on in a sense that many of those episode scripts I mentioned earlier got some tweaks and became TNG episodes.

  • @teamdoghouse7920
    @teamdoghouse7920 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I love playing this game strategically. And by that, I mean targeting and disabling the enemy vessel's subsystems. Being able to do that is one of the things that makes bridge Commander and amazing capital ship combat simulator. In my humble opinion.

  • @MisterMarin
    @MisterMarin 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    4:01 "They keep showing me their stronger shield..."
    You could learn something from them. 😉

  • @andrewdillon3520
    @andrewdillon3520 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Time to use # 16309.

  • @GregoryMCMAHON817
    @GregoryMCMAHON817 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I really enjoy this Star Trek Starship Battles.

  • @user-eu8ki5is3r
    @user-eu8ki5is3r 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I believe that the Miranda Class is a precursor to the Defiant Class. The two have practically the same luck when it comes to survivability. Granted the Defiant is smaller than the Miranda but they both are underdogs when the time comes.
    The worst thing is that the Miranda Class was originally classified as a research class vessel.

    • @beh.r_co-mando.1374
      @beh.r_co-mando.1374 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      WHAT. That is a crazy comparison. That's probably even Star Trek heresy. You see Defiant class ships get roughed up like, two times, on screen. The Valiant, and the original Defiant.
      The Miranda on the other hand was only badass in The Wrath of Khan. Every other time we see it, it's getting pulverized. By FRIEND and FOE. There is no way that the Miranda is a precursor, I will die on this hill.
      There is no way you just compared the two. That's actually crazy.

    • @user-eu8ki5is3r
      @user-eu8ki5is3r 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@beh.r_co-mando.1374
      You think I'm reaching here. Yes I know the Reliant was only seen in the movies. The Defiant in DS9. YES Khan used access codes to disable the Enterprise.
      What you are failing to see is the Reliants weaponry in relation to the Defiants weaponry. The Reliant uses a Precursor of the Defiants Gatling Phasers. These are mounted on either side of the Photon bay Above the main hull. It has a greater rate of fire the Gatling Phasers of the Defiant.
      The Miranda Class was Categorized as a research/ science class vessel. Are you that Naive to not think that maybe the Reliant was a test bed for such innovations that the Defiant used? How do you think stealth tech started and where do you think it started? Look up the SR71 Black Bird. A US spy plane used in the Cold war. It's not a stretch to follow. Definitely not Hairacy I'm using logic and I am using what history has shown us not just in the Star Trek universe but in reality.
      Granted there is a lot of fiction in Star Trek but there is even more science and commonality with current technology we use this day and age. The idea of a Gatling weapon was first thought of back in the US civil wars era. So please rethink your comments before you go to calling the kettle black.

  • @Techrat3D
    @Techrat3D 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    1:22 - Motion Picture Enterprise never used Phasers. They only fired a single Photon Torpedo. The Phasers weren't used until Wrath of Khan. 😉

    • @TheCormTube
      @TheCormTube 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I guess we all assumed they had the same pulse phasers they did in Wrath of Khan but I guess they could have had this style then 🤷‍♂️

    • @crownprincesebastianjohano7069
      @crownprincesebastianjohano7069 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      And never after TWOK after oddly enough.

    • @jamriki
      @jamriki 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They almost did though! But then... b-e-l-a-y t-h-a-t p-h-a-s-e-r o-r-d-e-r!

  • @JoseMoreira-vo8cu
    @JoseMoreira-vo8cu 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The Motion Picture was my first reference.

  • @chrismills2439
    @chrismills2439 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    miranda class was an attack ship in its hey day, the constitution class was a heavy cruiser back in its hey day. even with upgraded tech, the constitution would still have been no contest against the miranda. the constitution would have faded away and the miranda even not in its original mission profile lasted for a century or so along side the Excelsior class. And still both classes had their warp cores handed to them at the dominion war

    • @wwclay86
      @wwclay86 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Attack ship? Let's try frigate..

    • @chrismills2439
      @chrismills2439 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@wwclay86 that is an attack ship. so are Destroyers as are cruisers and dreadnoughts. The Miranda class was a more maneuverable and armed attack ship than the aging Constitution class. Even with todays military hardware,, you can only do so much with something before it has to be replaced with something newer. For instance the ww2 sherman tank, you could not put the m1 abram's main gun on it and safely fire it without damaging the turret as everything on said sherman tank would have to be reinforced. it would be easier to use a new tank. Which is also why I said even when its not in its original mission profile ( attack ship) it lasted a century alongside the Excelsior refits and they still both had their warp cores handed to them in the dominion war.

  • @kevinwestrom4775
    @kevinwestrom4775 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    It's too bad there wasn't an armored Enterprise refit, to better take on more well equipped foes with its weapons.

  • @scott3002
    @scott3002 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It's simple, change your torpedo color to rainbow and all types are covered with each shot. (Works for phasers as well 👍)

  • @trazyntheinfinite9895
    @trazyntheinfinite9895 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Trivia: the reason the phasers looked the way they did in Kahn was, that the beam was deemed uncinematic in terms of Impact, in an Audio Visual and Dramatic sense.
    They first had Kahns ship "rake" a beam over the enterprise. It was really hard to set that up into a dramatic scene.
    They changed it to several individual impacts. Akin to a series of Hammer blows coming down.

  • @UnknownUzer
    @UnknownUzer 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I'd love to see a Delta Flyer vs Runabout match up, to see which is the best large multi-mission shuttle design.

  • @martinbuhlmeier3138
    @martinbuhlmeier3138 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Funny Time 🤣with a good Battle 🚀🛸in Starsky 🌠. Video is 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟.

    • @RetroBadgerGaming
      @RetroBadgerGaming  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks 🖖

    • @martinbuhlmeier3138
      @martinbuhlmeier3138 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@RetroBadgerGamingyou channel is best by funny Star Trek - battles! Live long and in happy 😂🖖!

  • @user-ur1eg6my5o
    @user-ur1eg6my5o 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    FIRE!!!!!

  • @TrentonBennett
    @TrentonBennett 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Yeah the Phase 2 Enterprise was supposed to be a TV series and the Phase 2 is a refit of the TOS E but not an actual refit that we actually got. I agree it’s not as powerful as the actual Refit.
    I agree the Reliant was major superior.

  • @haroldchase4120
    @haroldchase4120 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Frankly the Miranda is op . People assume they are stronger because Kirk got hit with his shields down at point blank range

  • @jeffcullifer5629
    @jeffcullifer5629 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Perhaps the Enterprise wasn't RELIANT on winning...😆

  • @TJBowman-vr1co
    @TJBowman-vr1co 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    And they surrender...
    *boom!*

  • @stevelapierre4776
    @stevelapierre4776 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    🤔Gosh Admiral.. I never heard of Phase 2, went and looked it up, oh, wow. surprising, Kirk and Spock would have been replaced... hmm I like the Phase 2 Enterprise, looks the part, and love the colors of phasers and torpedoes, but the Reliant, I have that model, after seeing the movies (took my time with this one and Ent D) and here I noticed, the ships jolt when hit by torpedoes.. nice, and eeh yes the whole engineering was gone, ouch.. gosh. wonder if it would have went to warp.. but lol I heard Brex freak out and well.. lol and second round, saucer separation.. oh my.. lol. eeh.. This was a wicked battle Admiral. 😊🖖

    • @RetroBadgerGaming
      @RetroBadgerGaming  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It is a nice looking ship. Almost like an alternate reality really. Oh, you're so lucky to have ship models. I kind of missed the boat on that, as Eaglemoss has now gone. I am tempted to get the Corgi Enterprise D. Although it doesn't look a 100% accurate. Hmmm, I wonder if that was why it wouldn't go to warp. I guess engineering is important 🤣. Thanks Steve 🖖

    • @stevelapierre4776
      @stevelapierre4776 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@RetroBadgerGaming Yes it does like like another timeline ship, but still nice though and I found many things Star Trek and would send you something but I have no adresse lol.. Yes, if Scotty or engineering not there, hmm oh gosh, but it almost went to warp but kaboom, eeh 😂🖖

    • @stevelapierre4776
      @stevelapierre4776 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@RetroBadgerGaming I just had a thought, seen many videos and making things with a 3D printer, gosh, if I knew a person that has one, would have the models made and would cost less. hmm!!!🖖

  • @larqven0192
    @larqven0192 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love the Miranda! There're reasons why it stuck around for a VERY long time!
    Despite the poor showing, I'm really glad to see the Phase II Enterprise! It looks great! I like to imagine that some sort of Phase II happened between TOS and The Motion Picture. It would have most everyone ageing appropriately, the technology jump of the refit Enterprise would have been somewhat easier to believe and so on.

  • @jamesbarrow904
    @jamesbarrow904 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    There may be a way to canonize the Phase 2 Connie by making her a prototype refit for the Constitution refit as the class leader USS Constitution. This experimental design was pressed into service and participated in the Battle of Caleb IV where she was sadly lost due to Starfleet underestimating the capabilities of the Klingons new K'Tinga class battlecruisers. Following this, Starfleet went back to the drawing board to develop an even more powerful refit for the Constitution Class using the USS Enterprise and, well, the rest is history. On that note can we have the Phase 2 vs a K'Tinga?

  • @Renserin
    @Renserin 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This should quite the people who always point out that any Miranda Class starship is always the first to get destroyed.

  • @MAZE4
    @MAZE4 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I always thought that the Miranda classes ' roll bar weapons pod would've been enough to destroy a constitution class ship.

  • @deepdivedylan
    @deepdivedylan 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    1:12 so what you're saying is that they're better than phase 1 and not quite phase 2? It's a good job that the Starfleet Corp of Engineers works in phases!

    • @RetroBadgerGaming
      @RetroBadgerGaming  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂😂 Mwhahaha! I've become so Reliant on this jokes.

  • @s.patrickmarino7289
    @s.patrickmarino7289 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Is it saucer separation when you just blow up everything that's not the saucer? It's not as if you even had a few scraps leftover.

  • @dannolives
    @dannolives 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    KKKHHHHHHAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNN!

  • @DojhromTRW
    @DojhromTRW 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Rematch but go after the weapons pod

  • @UncommonKnowledge587
    @UncommonKnowledge587 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Phase 2 Enterprise needs a refit and quickly! There are far stronger opponents in space 🖖

  • @keagenlund928
    @keagenlund928 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Can you do the sagen class stargazer vs titan A

  • @fedricojgarza464
    @fedricojgarza464 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    No warp for you 😮🎉

    • @MisterMarin
      @MisterMarin 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Come back one light year!

    • @RetroBadgerGaming
      @RetroBadgerGaming  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @MisterMarin NEXT!

    • @MisterMarin
      @MisterMarin 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@RetroBadgerGaming Warp Nazi. 😆

  • @aaronatwood9298
    @aaronatwood9298 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    That almost seems weaker than TOS. Pit it afainst ST3 1701. might be a more even match.

  • @chrismills2439
    @chrismills2439 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ummmm... something else. that came across my mind, I grew up enterprise from the motion picture constitution refit, but I think it would in theory be Constitution Final refit instead of Constitution phase 2 as I do believe phase 2 would have been its 2nd or 3rd gen and Enterprise was first gen and Kirk was told in either 2 or 3 that the enterprise was over 40 years old and each upgraded piece of tech would have been worked into a refit of the already existing ships.

  • @jodyhoward2421
    @jodyhoward2421 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Boom

  • @JoseMoreira-vo8cu
    @JoseMoreira-vo8cu 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Blue Klingon Torpedoes?

    • @anonymuswere
      @anonymuswere 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      also used in versions of the Vlakdo converted TMP Proximas, but more powerful. the fire sound gives it away. I think these are detuned.

  • @Shory22
    @Shory22 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Warp, Scotty was dead lol.

  • @mosser-wm3dx
    @mosser-wm3dx 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Hey man, legit offer. Been playing this game for what I'm guessing is over a decade easy. Would love to match modsets and try some verses, never once in all this time have I ever faced a human opponent in this game. Throwin my bottle, would love to give you a real fight in some of these matchups if you're willing.

    • @anonymuswere
      @anonymuswere 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      modders have reactivated multiplayer. it is available with the RE version. RB uses a mixture of Remaster and Kobayashi Maru for these vids, but mostly KM.

  • @darklord102389
    @darklord102389 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    that enterprise needs to be hauled away as garbage

    • @Techrat3D
      @Techrat3D 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Did ya really make sure Scotty wasn't around to read that, laddy? 😁

  • @BertoPerez82
    @BertoPerez82 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wonder if the Phase 2 could take on the M5.

  • @stevegiles9080
    @stevegiles9080 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What bout the ross class vs enterprise d ?

  • @commander6156
    @commander6156 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just to ask RBG how did you start playing the game do you have the disc or did you download it

    • @RetroBadgerGaming
      @RetroBadgerGaming  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I have an original disc, but I also bought a digital copy from, Good Old Games 🖖

    • @commander6156
      @commander6156 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Good old games thanks

  • @Joshua-qm3um
    @Joshua-qm3um 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    First!

  • @beh.r_co-mando.1374
    @beh.r_co-mando.1374 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Hey dude, this is wildly off topic. And I know you'd prefer suggestions from paying members of your channel. But, if you can find the time, do you think you could do a video with Cyanide's MKII Galaxy War Reifit? Frickin' love the look and the versatility of that thing. Anyways, keep doin' what you're doing, dude. Love the vids!

    • @RetroBadgerGaming
      @RetroBadgerGaming  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for your kind words! I don't have paid members on this channel at all. Everything is free and always will be. I treat every request equally :-). I did some videos in the past for a few people, but that's not fair on everyone else. I've added your request to the list.

    • @beh.r_co-mando.1374
      @beh.r_co-mando.1374 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @RetroBadgerGaming Oh, word. I thought you did. My bad! Thanks, man!