Very nice work. I've watched many similar solar water heater box styles and builds over the years, but you stand apart because your stand design is exceptional.
Nice video filled with good tips & trix. I'm setting up a solar powered pool heater right now and my goal is 30°C / 86°F in the pool. I'm starting with 250 meters / 820 feet of 20 mm / ¾ inch PEM hose in a flat rooftop setup. A 20V rainwater barrel pump (2,000 liters - 528 gallons / hour) will be connected directly to a solar panel, so it's a completely automatic system controlled and powered by the sun. No sun = no pump = no heating. Since I'm located at 60° latitude in the northern hemisphere, I'll guess it'll be some problems and math to solve along the way, but it'll be fun. I've spent 250 USD for the hose, 50 USD for the pump and 50 USD for the solar panel. If it works, I'll have a pool heater for 350 USD that doesn't require any manuel labour and it'll run for free. You can follow this project and more on my new channel. Keep up your good work
First off this was a CHEAP and quick solution for MY needs. I know PEX and wire ties degrade, so will the Intex pool I am using. As far as all the numbers and technical data, when the video was posted it was just setup so no data was available. I did use a pool cover with this setup. I live in Northern Illinois, all I am trying to do is get the pool to warm quicker in the season and stay warmer then it would get normally. Now with a low end solar cover this added a average of 5 to 10 degrees to the water temp. and this is good for the most part but when it got around 90 degrees (air temp) for most of the summer of 2013 it made the pool run around 98 to 104, which really sucked when you get off work and want to cool off in the pool. To date the only problem I've had is last winter I forgot to drain the panel and add anti-freeze, this made the pex freeze and push out the bottom of the panel and the loops sag at the top. Also I have been using a ! inch clear water pump from Harbor Freight set to cycle for 15 minutes every 45 minutes. Again this was MY CHEAP solution to heating a pool. I have learned from this design and am hopeing to build a better version that uses better materials so I can have supplemental heat for my house some day. PS the music is from the pickin on series and if you don't like it oh well you have mute options. I'm a Phanovphloyd and to quote Tom Moon "The more you love music the more music you love" so keep an open mind people and thanks for taking an interest in renewable energy.
That isn't bad, hundreds of gallons of open water (releasing heat into the air) got a 5-10 degree F rise? Seems like this design would at least create a much larger rise if used to preheat water before it came into the house. (I imagine like a 55 gallon barrel with a lot of the 500 ft under the pool instead wound up inside it and heating the exchange liquid like some of the other videos here on youtube)
Black silicone rubber tubing? It's supposed to be pretty stable over a range of temperatures( -40C to +200C) and is food grade. Anyone know if it's UV resistant?
Great job, I thought about building one 4x8 with a sheet metal bottom and maybe coiled copper tubing. Not sure if I would need to paint it black. Any thoughts?
Wow. A Bluegrass version of Pink Floyd's Astronomy Domine as your background music and people can't appreciate that. Great video (and music). Very informative and educational. I am working on my own design and so far your system has so many fantastic concepts that I cannot ignore yours when I build mine. Thank you.
Works well, you can feel the warmer water coming back into the pool after running through the mat. Wish the inlet/outlet ports were adjustable, but overall, a good and efficient way to raise the water temp.
I produced such a collector in 1991, sent it to Cyprus to test in 40 degree heat and sun, but my Pex al Pex pipe was UV protected and black, with the glass K glass. Great for a hot water shower at the end of the day and cheap to make
This system collects over 3kw of sunlight, but the PEX is layed out like a Reverse-Flow Heat-Exchanger, but keeps the heat trapped in the center of the panel. I suggest that you allow the water to only flow clockwise, then draw the hot water from the center of the PEX coil, eliminating the Reverse-Flow heat-loss to the cooler incoming fluid.
@@marzsit9833 these are the same people who think that if you half the inflow of the water the temperature of the pool rises sooner because the outflow is hotter 🤦♂️
A coil of soft copper for tubing would have been a much better choice, most pex isnt UV rated, also Pex is an insulator and is fighting the heat transfer which you want.
Pex won't breakdown meaningfully at least 100 years I bet assuming it doesn't reach over 160-180f consistently. While copper transfers heat way more, plastic is usually quite thin, I saw a study where it makes virtually no difference, plus copper is 10-20x in price. Say you use less pipe and you'll have less heat.
I watched/listened to this a year or two ago. Ever since, I've been fighting compulsions to run out on to every busy highway I encounter. I think Manson just couldn't remember the title or artist, and threw The Beatles under the bus on whim.
ÓTIMA IDEIA. TO AQUI NO BRASIL. VOU FAZER. MAS, AO INVEZ DE MADEIRA VOU USAR, CANTONEIRA DE ZINHO E FOLHAS DE ZINCO. A MANGUEIRA VOU USAR TUBO DE COBRE. AQUI ESSE MATERIAL É BARATO. E MAIS DURÁVEL. AGRADECE A DICA UM ABRAÇO AI.
Instead of your intermittent electric sump pump (15 min on, 45 min off), I think I will go with a 12 volt DC continuous slow flow pump that operates entirely from one small solar panel. That's what I use now, except my hose just runs around the perimeter of the pool instead of in a nice enclosure like yours.
Wait, you ran the pex piping under the pool's bottom lining? Have you thought about putting the pex tubes into the water having one side of the tube sucking in the cool water from the pool, it goes through the coils in the solar array and once heated up, the warmed water goes back into the pool circulating the same water round and round. Would that be more or less efficient? What do you think? A timer is a good thing too.
Rotating on its intake you loos about 10 to 15 degrees. It has to be a one direction wind because the cold water is cooling your hot water. I had 4 200 feet black hose. My first run the temp in was 40~50. The temp exiting was 200~250. Then increasing pump speed dropped the temp to 150 however the pool temp was a steady 75 degrees all year round. Winter did not change anything. Only pool in the area that was still running.
+Richard “Spline-King” Lionheart Do you have a video or pics of what you did in comparison to this. If you were getting water temps that high, that's crazy!! I would love to see what you did.
vballman20 I do have them in a few places that I could bring up. The math of temp loss and interaction is a fun way to get hot water but it also works with Hot Air in order to eat up say a home with nothing but the power of the sun. I did enjoy making a SunOven. The temp of my oven has reached 350°. I have cooked lot of things and even a pork roast. The thickness of the hose is the problem. It is to thick. The best part is it is a simple fix.
+vballman20 pex pipe is not u v tollerant!!! ,hose clamp?? ,did you not take any class ,or follow mfg. instructions??? paint on pex not allowed eather ??what a waste of TH-cam sp a ce.
I don't see how the heat is "lost". Do you actually mean something more, like transferred or some sort of equalization between the hot & cold? In any case would a temperature drop from the hot to the cold be a good thing or a bad thing? After all no one is indicating(turned off the sound), a target temperature under the pool.
Wow 7 years ago, but I have to ask, did you have any problems with the pex pipe expanding? I have seen it expand between 10 and 20% in certain applications.
On any long tube collector, there is a point at which the fluid gets as hot as the tube. Any tubing beyond this point is wasted because the heat it gathers has no place to go. Take one of those laser thermometers and measure the temp. starting at the input (cold) end. The tube temp. will start off near the incoming water temp. Shortly after the point where the temp. stops rising is where the extra tubing is just wasted because the water has taken all the heat it can carry. This distance will vary based on flow rate and conductivity of the tube. These spiral collectors need multiple lengths of tubing and manifolds.
kkarllwt Much as that is correct but the length of tube after the point the temperature becomes constant is most definitely not wasted. The water, air, ground and coil temperature are all variables therfore the length of tubing before the pipe and the fluid inside becomes variable. Any excess pipe after that point will not become any cooler. The more pipe there is the greater stored heat therfore the better the end result. Think of it like a battery. 12v 1ah can sustain 1 amp for 1hour or 10 amps for about 6mins so 12v 10ah can sustain 10 amps for 1 hour or 1amp for 10 hours.
@@captainchaos3053it would be wasted though,you aren't adding any heat capacity as you can't get more heat from it, unless you were storing heat. Additional heat trying to be added is lost back into the environment. I'm not sure of the physics, but it seems about 50-100 ft is good per loop, unless a really high gpm above 3-5.
@brianob1 The idea here is that the water heated by the collector is going to transfer that heat to a large body of colder water with an open surface. Only after the large body of water becomes the same temperature as the surface of the coil will the system stop being able to add heat.
@@captainchaos3053 yeah, it is a little more capacity, but if its that hot it's pretty inefficient. You'd get a lot more total heat if you ran a couple degrees over to the desired temp, say 60 pool and 80 solar vs 150+ if it were no longer gaining temp, probably 200+ and destroy it. I think even a very long pipe of 500' would still be gaining temperature.
Thanks for the great video. Thanks for not talking it all to death, but letting the pictures show the work instead. Thank God for mute function to shut of the cat-tail-dragging music...
fyi ... a continuous wrap would have been more efficient. doublng back would act as a heat exchanger and u would loose heat from your output to the colder water coming in to the solar heater. i like the simplisity of ur disign ... i wonder if it could be made with out a pump :) great job
I'm doubtful that a continuous wrap would have been more efficient. The heat energy deposited into the piping is just determined by the length of the pipe and the area of the collector box. The layout pattern doesn't matter much.
Hey GREAT JoB,!!!! But you forgot about something.!! You forgot to run a syphon trap system, to catch The Extra HEAT Coming out at the open spots on the Bottom line along the Cover. So, as to Run it into the house as an (Kick -in - THE - Backside, )!! To help heat Your Home in the winter.!!
Pink Floyd on banjo and fiddle . . . WAY COOL ! ! ! THANKS ! ! ! Oh yea, and the video was cool too. I have friends in Norway I tried to convice them to build this for their small pool . . . no go 'cause they didn't believe it would work . . . wouldn't even try !?!? Oh well... Pink Floyd on banjo and fiddle . . . really made my day !
thank you for taking your time on showing us and sharing this video, which help me really great.. thanks to that.. looking forward to see more new update videos..
Obviously some of your viewers (amateurs) were not impressed with your Floyd selection but I must say, I found it delightful. Piper at the Gates of Dawn! Astronomy and Interstellar were my two favorites from that album. Oh yeah, the solar water heater kicked ass too!
with this size of solar pool heater how long does it takes to heat the water in your pool? i'm planning on making one or two for more faster but I want to know how fast to decide if i have to build one or two.. thanks..
I don't mean to rain on your Parade, but using Galvanized Fittings is the worst thing you can do for this water heater. Those fittings will fail and the few cents you saved will cost you dearly when you have to replace them; especially when you mix them with Brass Fittings almost instant Oxidation. Cooper or Brass Fittings ONLY, don't cheap out and introduce contaminates to your water system. Great project over all, but Galvanized Fittings are an accident just waiting to happen... Cheers....
I wondered about those hose clamps seen at first :) Boy to do all that work you must have got one hell of a gas bill for the pool heater the month before.
I was wondering could you hook this up to a water heater and direct the hot water thru the cold water valve and the hot water valve be hooked up as usual for the house....thank you...
I'm thinking of putting something similar to this on my roof to heat water inside the house for showering, washing dishes etc., but I don't want to use anything that will degrade over time; still not sure what to use. Is that Interstellar Overdrive; I feel like I'm having a flashback just listening to it.
NO hose clamps! Those are meant for automotive rubber heater hoses, not PEX! Use 3/4 crimp or surlok clamps designed for pex to avoid leaks under pressure.
ok good engineering now upgrade with copper pipe , put the thing on the roof of your house and fit an electrical valve or a none return valve . now using a diy electronic temperature difference relay circuit place one thermistor around in the middle of the coils behind the copper and the other one in your cladded water tank and bingo you have an automatic hot water system!
Adding some numbers would help (got them from the comments0. I guess I would have used heat-conductive tubing. MOst plastics are bad with UV, unless specifically rated for UV, and do not conduct heat that well.
i would be worried about swimming in that water but you could make a spiral at the bottom of the pool to work as a heat exchanger (youd have to make sure nobdy could get tangled in it) or just paint the bottom of the pool black and do away with the panels. maybe with some lighter dots or stripes for visibility it would look alright. maybe you could get some dark sand or pebbles. that would probably be pretty good eco way to do it. I think pebbles would be good. then you could take them out easy in the summer time if water is too hot and they might look quite good and natural. probably last forever and you could always collect the pebbles up and sell them or otherwise move them to a different pool or application.
Maybe a heat transfer tank to keep both water systems separated. The pex tubing however i also agree is not the best material choice in this situation.
Great plan, a couple issues. PEX degrades in sunlight. Pex grades are different, standard not meant for closed loop system with iron parts in it, such as fittings and pump, need to use Radiant floor type PEX, and I would use drip mist type tubing for direct sun exposure.
Cool video. How well would that kind of thing work in the winter ? And do you think it is capable of keeping a walkway or driveway clear of snow and ice? Just wondering.
I may go with 3/4 inch black rubber hose sold in 100 feet sections made by Craftsman (Sears) which has a lifetime warranty instead of pex. I know that adds a lot to the initial cost, but it will be lifetime. It will also add weight and I will probably only get 300 feet (maybe 400) in there compared to your 500 feet.
@@ddd228 Do Americans drink the water in their swimming pools? This issue of hoses for drinking water keeps coming up, but the video was about a swimming pool! Have I missed something?
You could have used thermosiphon technology, and avoided using pumps. Throw some tubing on the sides of the pool, add a cover, and you could keep it heated year round.
Originally my design had a timer for the pump on / off. I was thinking on for 10 minutes, off for 30 minutes, repeat. Do you think that might be better than a continuous slow flow? Also, I did not integrate my system into the pool flow system, instead it pumps water from the pool back into the pool as a closed system by itself.
Tips for improving peerformance: 1º Hose might be maid of metal (aluminium or copper or the cheapest). 2º Cover all the frame with mirror translucent cristals (those cristal where the cashier can see you but you see a mirror), so the light will enter and bounce and bounce inside the cage.
don't mean to rain on your parade but your trying to make a solar heater using pex pipe which is an insulator. Although it transmits heat it's nowhere as good as any metal would be.
Very nice work. I've watched many similar solar water heater box styles and builds over the years, but you stand apart because your stand design is exceptional.
Nice video filled with good tips & trix. I'm setting up a solar powered pool heater right now and my goal is 30°C / 86°F in the pool. I'm starting with 250 meters / 820 feet of 20 mm / ¾ inch PEM hose in a flat rooftop setup. A 20V rainwater barrel pump (2,000 liters - 528 gallons / hour) will be connected directly to a solar panel, so it's a completely automatic system controlled and powered by the sun.
No sun = no pump = no heating.
Since I'm located at 60° latitude in the northern hemisphere, I'll guess it'll be some problems and math to solve along the way, but it'll be fun.
I've spent 250 USD for the hose, 50 USD for the pump and 50 USD for the solar panel. If it works, I'll have a pool heater for 350 USD that doesn't require any manuel labour and it'll run for free. You can follow this project and more on my new channel.
Keep up your good work
First off this was a CHEAP and quick solution for MY needs. I know PEX and wire ties degrade, so will the Intex pool I am using. As far as all the numbers and technical data, when the video was posted it was just setup so no data was available. I did use a pool cover with this setup. I live in Northern Illinois, all I am trying to do is get the pool to warm quicker in the season and stay warmer then it would get normally. Now with a low end solar cover this added a average of 5 to 10 degrees to the water temp. and this is good for the most part but when it got around 90 degrees (air temp) for most of the summer of 2013 it made the pool run around 98 to 104, which really sucked when you get off work and want to cool off in the pool. To date the only problem I've had is last winter I forgot to drain the panel and add anti-freeze, this made the pex freeze and push out the bottom of the panel and the loops sag at the top. Also I have been using a ! inch clear water pump from Harbor Freight set to cycle for 15 minutes every 45 minutes. Again this was MY CHEAP solution to heating a pool. I have learned from this design and am hopeing to build a better version that uses better materials so I can have supplemental heat for my house some day. PS the music is from the pickin on series and if you don't like it oh well you have mute options. I'm a Phanovphloyd and to quote Tom Moon "The more you love music the more music you love" so keep an open mind people and thanks for taking an interest in renewable energy.
That isn't bad, hundreds of gallons of open water (releasing heat into the air) got a 5-10 degree F rise? Seems like this design would at least create a much larger rise if used to preheat water before it came into the house. (I imagine like a 55 gallon barrel with a lot of the 500 ft under the pool instead wound up inside it and heating the exchange liquid like some of the other videos here on youtube)
phanovphloyd f
Black silicone rubber tubing? It's supposed to be pretty stable over a range of temperatures( -40C to +200C) and is food grade. Anyone know if it's UV resistant?
It is after you paint it black with UV resistant paint.
Great job, I thought about building one 4x8 with a sheet metal bottom and maybe coiled copper tubing. Not sure if I would need to paint it black. Any thoughts?
Wow. A Bluegrass version of Pink Floyd's Astronomy Domine as your background music and people can't appreciate that. Great video (and music). Very informative and educational. I am working on my own design and so far your system has so many fantastic concepts that I cannot ignore yours when I build mine. Thank you.
Works well, you can feel the warmer water coming back into the pool after running through the mat. Wish the inlet/outlet ports were adjustable, but overall, a good and efficient way to raise the water temp.
Like it, mine will be on the roof. It's for the Jacuzzi on the veranda. Enclosing the hose and painting it , just brilliant.
I produced such a collector in 1991, sent it to Cyprus to test in 40 degree heat and sun, but my Pex al Pex pipe was UV protected and black, with the glass K glass. Great for a hot water shower at the end of the day and cheap to make
This system collects over 3kw of sunlight, but the PEX is layed out like a Reverse-Flow Heat-Exchanger, but keeps the heat trapped in the center of the panel.
I suggest that you allow the water to only flow clockwise, then draw the hot water from the center of the PEX coil, eliminating the Reverse-Flow heat-loss to the cooler incoming fluid.
Exactly what I thaught too 👍
what reverse flow heat loss? if anything the reverse flow is preheating the cool water as it enters the panel, so where is the loss?
@@marzsit9833 😂😂😂😂😂
@@marzsit9833 these are the same people who think that if you half the inflow of the water the temperature of the pool rises sooner because the outflow is hotter 🤦♂️
Brilliantly done 👍🏾
a quick way to heat your water... awesome! gotta try this on my plastic pool for my kids..
A coil of soft copper for tubing would have been a much better choice, most pex isnt UV rated, also Pex is an insulator and is fighting the heat transfer which you want.
Pex won't breakdown meaningfully at least 100 years I bet assuming it doesn't reach over 160-180f consistently.
While copper transfers heat way more, plastic is usually quite thin, I saw a study where it makes virtually no difference, plus copper is 10-20x in price. Say you use less pipe and you'll have less heat.
I watched/listened to this a year or two ago. Ever since, I've been fighting compulsions to run out on to every busy highway I encounter.
I think Manson just couldn't remember the title or artist, and threw The Beatles under the bus on whim.
Sorry new to this. What is pex tubing ?? Rubber or copper? Thanks
Good vidio scales in ladders...
ÓTIMA IDEIA. TO AQUI NO BRASIL. VOU FAZER. MAS, AO INVEZ DE MADEIRA VOU USAR, CANTONEIRA DE ZINHO E FOLHAS DE ZINCO. A MANGUEIRA VOU USAR TUBO DE COBRE. AQUI ESSE MATERIAL É BARATO. E MAIS DURÁVEL. AGRADECE A DICA UM ABRAÇO AI.
Gracias !! muy útil y bien hecho tu video, excelente tema musical.
I want this, cold months is here and I still want to enjoy the pool.. this is a great idea..
Instead of your intermittent electric sump pump (15 min on, 45 min off), I think I will go with a 12 volt DC continuous slow flow pump that operates entirely from one small solar panel. That's what I use now, except my hose just runs around the perimeter of the pool instead of in a nice enclosure like yours.
That's a Bluegrass 'Astronomy Domine" !!!! Gorgeous! Thank you for the instructional video too...
Wait, you ran the pex piping under the pool's bottom lining?
Have you thought about putting the pex tubes into the water having one side of the tube sucking in the cool water from the pool, it goes through the coils in the solar array and once heated up, the warmed water goes back into the pool circulating the same water round and round. Would that be more or less efficient? What do you think?
A timer is a good thing too.
Rotating on its intake you loos about 10 to 15 degrees. It has to be a one direction wind because the cold water is cooling your hot water.
I had 4 200 feet black hose. My first run the temp in was 40~50. The temp exiting was 200~250. Then increasing pump speed dropped the temp to 150 however the pool temp was a steady 75 degrees all year round. Winter did not change anything. Only pool in the area that was still running.
+Richard “Spline-King” Lionheart Do you have a video or pics of what you did in comparison to this. If you were getting water temps that high, that's crazy!! I would love to see what you did.
vballman20
I do have them in a few places that I could bring up. The math of temp loss and interaction is a fun way to get hot water but it also works with Hot Air in order to eat up say a home with nothing but the power of the sun.
I did enjoy making a SunOven. The temp of my oven has reached 350°. I have cooked lot of things and even a pork roast.
The thickness of the hose is the problem. It is to thick. The best part is it is a simple fix.
+vballman20 pex pipe is not u v tollerant!!! ,hose clamp?? ,did you not take any class ,or follow mfg. instructions??? paint on pex not allowed eather ??what a waste of TH-cam sp a ce.
I don't see how the heat is "lost". Do you actually mean something more, like transferred or some sort of equalization between the hot & cold?
In any case would a temperature drop from the hot to the cold be a good thing or a bad thing? After all no one is indicating(turned off the sound), a target temperature under the pool.
Wow 7 years ago, but I have to ask, did you have any problems with the pex pipe expanding? I have seen it expand between 10 and 20% in certain applications.
Nice piece of solar engineering, well done
DREADFUL music meant I only saw this with speakers off!
Nice job! Like the stand for the heater
On any long tube collector, there is a point at which the fluid gets as hot as the tube. Any tubing beyond this point is wasted because the heat it gathers has no place to go. Take one of those laser thermometers and measure the temp. starting at the input (cold) end. The tube temp. will start off near the incoming water temp. Shortly after the point where the temp. stops rising is where the extra tubing is just wasted because the water has taken all the heat it can carry. This distance will vary based on flow rate and conductivity of the tube. These spiral collectors need multiple lengths of tubing and manifolds.
kkarllwt Much as that is correct but the length of tube after the point the temperature becomes constant is most definitely not wasted. The water, air, ground and coil temperature are all variables therfore the length of tubing before the pipe and the fluid inside becomes variable. Any excess pipe after that point will not become any cooler. The more pipe there is the greater stored heat therfore the better the end result. Think of it like a battery. 12v 1ah can sustain 1 amp for 1hour or 10 amps for about 6mins so 12v 10ah can sustain 10 amps for 1 hour or 1amp for 10 hours.
@@captainchaos3053it would be wasted though,you aren't adding any heat capacity as you can't get more heat from it, unless you were storing heat. Additional heat trying to be added is lost back into the environment.
I'm not sure of the physics, but it seems about 50-100 ft is good per loop, unless a really high gpm above 3-5.
@brianob1 The idea here is that the water heated by the collector is going to transfer that heat to a large body of colder water with an open surface. Only after the large body of water becomes the same temperature as the surface of the coil will the system stop being able to add heat.
@@captainchaos3053 yeah, it is a little more capacity, but if its that hot it's pretty inefficient. You'd get a lot more total heat if you ran a couple degrees over to the desired temp, say 60 pool and 80 solar vs 150+ if it were no longer gaining temp, probably 200+ and destroy it.
I think even a very long pipe of 500' would still be gaining temperature.
Thanks for the great video. Thanks for not talking it all to death, but letting the pictures show the work instead. Thank God for mute function to shut of the cat-tail-dragging music...
Good job man , ive been wanting to make one to plug into my water heater
fyi ... a continuous wrap would have been more efficient.
doublng back would act as a heat exchanger and u would loose heat from your output to the colder water coming in to the solar heater.
i like the simplisity of ur disign ... i wonder if it could be made with out a pump :)
great job
I'm doubtful that a continuous wrap would have been more efficient. The heat energy deposited into the piping is just determined by the length of the pipe and the area of the collector box. The layout pattern doesn't matter much.
Had to watch this with the volume off music was scratching my skull
I was contemplating slitting my wrists..!!!!
Floyd in any form is amazing!
me too
Great Idea, But the Music will drive you nuts. Re-edit and play sound of water running like water falls. Please and best of luck.
Hey GREAT JoB,!!!! But you forgot about something.!! You forgot to run a syphon trap system, to catch The Extra HEAT Coming out at the open spots on the Bottom line along the Cover. So, as to Run it into the house as an (Kick -in - THE - Backside, )!! To help heat Your Home in the winter.!!
Pink Floyd on banjo and fiddle . . . WAY COOL ! ! ! THANKS ! ! ! Oh yea, and the video was cool too. I have friends in Norway I tried to convice them to build this for their small pool . . . no go 'cause they didn't believe it would work . . . wouldn't even try !?!? Oh well... Pink Floyd on banjo and fiddle . . . really made my day !
thank you for taking your time on showing us and sharing this video, which help me really great.. thanks to that.. looking forward to see more new update videos..
Obviously some of your viewers (amateurs) were not impressed with your Floyd selection but I must say, I found it delightful. Piper at the Gates of Dawn! Astronomy and Interstellar were my two favorites from that album. Oh yeah, the solar water heater kicked ass too!
Add a non return valve and use an air pump or a vacuum cleaner to suck the air out and your system will perform a lot better specially on winter
with this size of solar pool heater how long does it takes to heat the water in your pool? i'm planning on making one or two for more faster but I want to know how fast to decide if i have to build one or two.. thanks..
Reroute the tubing in one direction and you could add pv panels in the centre to power the pump. That would imorove the design.
I think a salt water pool would make it more effiecnet since the salt acts as an electrolyte enchancing the energy tranfer coefficent
OUTSTANDING!!!!
How would you drain it for winter???
I caught your note about the pex compression rings, wondered about that. Hose clamps would have failed almost immediately.
i want this.. its already cold in autumn so gona try this one.. great video.
poolpumpenergy parts were
Stats? What is the temperature gain? And does the paint protect the PEX from sunlight?
Absolutely no UV is going to get through that paint.
watching this video I was saying "paint it black!" glad to see you painted it black:) good job sir or Ma'am.
This is great during pool party... great video..
I don't mean to rain on your Parade, but using Galvanized Fittings is the worst thing you can do for this water heater. Those fittings will fail and the few cents you saved will cost you dearly when you have to replace them; especially when you mix them with Brass Fittings almost instant Oxidation. Cooper or Brass Fittings ONLY, don't cheap out and introduce contaminates to your water system. Great project over all, but Galvanized Fittings are an accident just waiting to happen... Cheers....
I wondered about those hose clamps seen at first :) Boy to do all that work you must have got one hell of a gas bill for the pool heater the month before.
i like the music and the project!
Just wondering why you didn't use black pipe and sit the panel on the roof behind ?
Enjoyed the Music ....:)
I was wondering could you hook this up to a water heater and direct the hot water thru the cold water valve and the hot water valve be hooked up as usual for the house....thank you...
I'm thinking of putting something similar to this on my roof to heat water inside the house for showering, washing dishes etc., but I don't want to use anything that will degrade over time; still not sure what to use. Is that Interstellar Overdrive; I feel like I'm having a flashback just listening to it.
would black silicone tubing work well?
NO hose clamps! Those are meant for automotive rubber heater hoses, not PEX! Use 3/4 crimp or surlok clamps designed for pex to avoid leaks under pressure.
Hi
Genius idea with Pink Floyd for assistance.🇪🇸
Music is irritating as all heck !!! Interesting project though. Something about how effective it was would have been nice.
Mute it
ok good engineering now upgrade with copper pipe , put the thing on the roof of your house and fit an electrical valve or a none return valve . now using a diy electronic temperature difference relay circuit place one thermistor around in the middle of the coils behind the copper and the other one in your cladded water tank and bingo you have an automatic hot water system!
Adding some numbers would help (got them from the comments0. I guess I would have used heat-conductive tubing. MOst plastics are bad with UV, unless specifically rated for UV, and do not conduct heat that well.
Perhaps ABS is better for UV degradation.It's already black!
Too bad pex tubing is not made to be in direct sunlight....Also brass to galvanized pipe connections will corrode really fast due to electrolysis.
i would be worried about swimming in that water but you could make a spiral at the bottom of the pool to work as a heat exchanger (youd have to make sure nobdy could get tangled in it) or just paint the bottom of the pool black and do away with the panels. maybe with some lighter dots or stripes for visibility it would look alright. maybe you could get some dark sand or pebbles. that would probably be pretty good eco way to do it. I think pebbles would be good. then you could take them out easy in the summer time if water is too hot and they might look quite good and natural. probably last forever and you could always collect the pebbles up and sell them or otherwise move them to a different pool or application.
Maybe a heat transfer tank to keep both water systems separated. The pex tubing however i also agree is not the best material choice in this situation.
Is stainless better
excellent work.thanks for uploading .
Very original!
Great plan, a couple issues. PEX degrades in sunlight. Pex grades are different, standard not meant for closed loop system with iron parts in it, such as fittings and pump, need to use Radiant floor type PEX, and I would use drip mist type tubing for direct sun exposure.
how many hours you should wait, for the solar water heater heat the water from that size of a pool?
Hey man...great job! and I love your sound track choice, great version of that old Floyd song, brings back great memories, cheers!
Cool video. How well would that kind of thing work in the winter ?
And do you think it is capable of keeping a walkway or driveway clear of snow and ice?
Just wondering.
nothing like an off the wall Pink Floyd song being PICKED at! No pun intended Mr. JESPER HANSEN. great music by the way.
Um - interesting and inventive and fun - but how effective was it?
Good lord that music...holy fucking hell...
Is the music an elevator version of Pink Floyd's Ummagumma album?
I may go with 3/4 inch black rubber hose sold in 100 feet sections made by Craftsman (Sears) which has a lifetime warranty instead of pex. I know that adds a lot to the initial cost, but it will be lifetime. It will also add weight and I will probably only get 300 feet (maybe 400) in there compared to your 500 feet.
I hope the lifetime warranty is insurance underwritten lol
@@johnbull5394 Garden hose is not for drinking water and the lining may leach chemicals into the water. My non-Craftsman hose turns the water yellow.
@@ddd228 Do Americans drink the water in their swimming pools? This issue of hoses for drinking water keeps coming up, but the video was about a swimming pool! Have I missed something?
HARD WORK BUT WHAT IS THE RESULT?TEMPERATURE?
What an eyesore!
most disturbing backround music...
What was the result?
Music=fingers on chalk board
Great build but would like to see temptress delta
WORDS!! Its not a new concept. They have been around for a long time. They work!!!
You could have used thermosiphon technology, and avoided using pumps. Throw some tubing on the sides of the pool, add a cover, and you could keep it heated year round.
I just use 100ft of ¾" black garden hose for my out door shower... plenty of hot water
Originally my design had a timer for the pump on / off. I was thinking on for 10 minutes, off for 30 minutes, repeat. Do you think that might be better than a continuous slow flow? Also, I did not integrate my system into the pool flow system, instead it pumps water from the pool back into the pool as a closed system by itself.
I guess you don't have lovers of Pink Floyd with Sid watching your videos. Interesting instrumental of astronomy domine. I enjoyed it at least.
+Robert Vaval Thanks , the more you love music, the more music you love
Robert Vaval I recognized it within a few bars. Nice version.
phanovphloyd the same with Hot Water.
Austin Sch
Surprised how many people do not realize that is Astronomy Domine by Pink Floyd lol. Psychedelic music goes way over the head of the uninitiated lol.
you're quite the handyman, no question.
Nice video but that music though..........sounds like Bluegrass goth metal. On second thought you just turned me on to a new type of music so thanks!
observation based on experience: zip ties degrade in sunlight and will eventually break
So does pex tubing....it says it right on it.
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White ones are better than the black.
@@realryandugger ¨So does pex tubing....it says it right on it.¨ ...not when painted
I am so proud of you :)
The music is lovely. :)
What is a good sized pump, how much flow is needed to combat any head pressure from weight of water in that length of tube??????
I just took the black pipe and just threw it up on my roof.Installing a pressure release valve to it next.Water is HOT!
aren`t you ment to put the outlet at the top as hot water rises. so you get a curcular rotation of heat. cold from bottom hot from the top.
Since you didn't post the results I can't claim success or failure!
Great video Bro.
And what were the results? Water temp of pool before and after? Wtf?
Pool heater? But the pool has much larger surface itself!!!
So how much dose it heat how long dose it take?
why not black tubing?
15 seconds of music... lost interest very quickly.
Tips for improving peerformance: 1º Hose might be maid of metal (aluminium or copper or the cheapest). 2º Cover all the frame with mirror translucent cristals (those cristal where the cashier can see you but you see a mirror), so the light will enter and bounce and bounce inside the cage.
Better show the temperature of the in.out water.
Et voici un panneau solaire thermique à usage unique.
Le tube per ne résiste pas a des températures supérieures à 80°C....
pink floyd on a mandolin?
Mute the video from 0:00 - 5:08.
don't mean to rain on your parade but your trying to make a solar heater using pex pipe which is an insulator. Although it transmits heat it's nowhere as good as any metal would be.
omg that background music was great! who sings that?