Top 10 Most Anger-Inducing Pinball Machines Of All Time
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- SDTM: TOP 10 Most Anger-Inducing Pinball Machines Of All Time
Which pinball machine is the toughest? The meanest? The most unfair? Which ones make you the most angry? And which one in particular do you want to light on fire and blast into space?!?!
SDTM Greg and Zach rundown the Top 10 list of Most Anger-Inducing Pinball Machines of all-time!
Do you agree? Comment below on which games make you want to rip your hair out.
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You guys forgot Fishtales. The game has amazing art, sounds, animations, but is the most brutal game I ever had the honor of kicking.
I have kicked that game too. I got kicked out of an arcade for it. Fish Tales is fast and unforgiving.
I was waiting for that one
Owned a ft, it was frustrating but so fun.
The middle section… 🤮
FT even massively anger inducing on pinball arcade...shattered an ipad once after getting completely skull-fucked during super jackpot...was about the umpteenth time that drove me over the edge...it was 2016 and i have never played it again...on the actual game i have kicked it numerous time...wanted to do much more than kick it...
video starts at 9:33
Next time we will transcribe it for ya :)
@@SDTM as adorable as your banter is, some people might want to know where the title topic begins
@@cpi23 Its just You, LOL.
Been struck by the pinball gods lately and become addicted. Your podcast have been my favorite thing over the past few weeks. Just wanted to extent a thanks for many fun hours. I think I've watched 40 episodes already.
Way too kind thanks Squidmar!
@@SDTM cancel culture isn't a real thing. If it was that asshole Tucker Carlson wouldn't still have a prime time show. Anyways for me Fish Tales would have be my anger inducing table, as much as I like the theme those damned lightning flippers lead to way too many drains and i've heard the only reason the FS pins distributed in America got those smaller flippers(as opposed to just the European ones) is because the Williams warehouse had a bunch of lightning flippers they were trying to get rid of.
I cannot believe Jersey Jack Pirates of the Caribbean is not on this list.
Full plunge on that game throws the ball directly down the middle. I refuse to play it because I have gone 3 balls (more like 6 if you count ball save) and had zero hit a flipper.
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Great video, guys!
thanks!
Paragon deserves to be at the very top of any "most infuriating games" list. In between the Beast's Lair and the ability to drain the ball between the two right flippers, I have expended a lifteime of rage on that machine. And the most infurating thing about the between the flipper drain is that when it happens, you have nobody to blame but yourself.
JJP GnR …. Losing massive song jackpots makes me smash the glass with my fist
At least you can earn a massive song jackpot to lose (see my comment lol)
For me its definitely BSD, the fact that u get the 3 multiballs and then lose it within 10 seconds... In a way so brutal no other game can do. Fuck that machine, even though its so cool at the same time. 7.5/10
My favorite episode. My pin Black knight is brutal, so fustrating
Thanks man!
I got the Egyptian clone of black knight
The new black knight? Holy fuck that game is mean. My girlfriend doesn’t even like looking at I she hates it so much hahaha
No no no, it's beatable. Go for multi ball locks right off the bat. There are tricks to lock them immediately.
24:11 I prefer to stay polite, but you cannot imagine how much it beaks my heart to see "guyz" doing that !
Back in the day, my go to tantrum was to knee the coin door on early SS Stern machines. It would cause them to reset.
Coin door bash switches are normally put in by every pin manufacturer to prevent cheaters from getting free games.
The list starts at 10:30 if you wanna skip all that crap at the beginning.
I was excited to watch this but can't get through the intro. Later.
This list was spot on. And I like that you explain that an anger inducing pin can still be one of your faves. Nicely done gentlemen.
On the Willy Wonka, I changed the right leg and made it a little higher than the left leg. You don't notice it looking at the machine, but it helped in fixing that damn down the middle from the bumpers. It still happens but a lot less. We didn't play it before we bought it, but my wife loves the movie and loved how this game looked. So we got it and she loves it other than that part. It's like when it goes over there you are like please please please don't go down the middle. We do not like bumping our pins, so we can't save it that way. She was probably a few days away from telling me to sell it, but once I did that she is back playing it a lot now. It really is a killer and not sure why they would make it to where it just goes right down the middle from there.
9/2024 update: Wick! I bought a Premium last weekend BECAUSE it was so goddamn hard. It’s my “Boss-Mode” pin, forcing you to practice your flipper skills & accuracy. It has zero freebies or gimmes on it.
You NAIL those tight shots or you pay the fiddler. A great one for longterm HUO, IMO. 🤷♂️✌️It AIN’T for whiners, boy. 😮💨
Dude IRON Man is my number #1 on this list.. I hated Moger popping up and blocking shots when you aren't trying to start him got on my nerves.. I was ready for it to leave after a month and it was gone in 3 months...the magna slings on the GB Prem/LE are made of 100% pure evil!
A lot to dislike with Iron Man, for sure. Good for tournaments I guess...
@Floyd Maxwell That's about the only setting it's good in.. I definitely don't want this one in a 5 game home collection.. It is fine for league and tourneys but thats it.. allot of people love it but I am not in that camp
Uh oh….this list is bound to get some pinball fans angry 😡
Cool and accurate list. If I were to add one game based on observing location play I would add that Alice Cooper's Nightmare Castle is an anger-inducing game watching people try to navigate the castle with orbit shots that are a bit too tight for the casual player yet so critical for mode progression.
Totally agree about Star Wars.
I help run an arcade in Utah and we have the premium edition. I've seen games last around 30 seconds. We've even had people ask for a refund because of how cheap that game plays.
I've personally gotten really good at it and know that plunging at full power often leads to a ball drain. I nudge a TON on this one...
Salt Lake City? Quarters? Nickelmania?
That ball save can be maddening… full speed to the left drain… over and over again. Anyone make any system/power changes that minimizes this?
Okay Greg I thought I was the only one who loved/used "Son's of Bitches" from that movie 😂.
Ha ha ha it’s one of my all time favorite movie quotes. 😂 (Greg)
@@SDTM Bumpasses.... I love it when he flips the little turkey wing to the kitchen floor!
I just traded my TMNT and am thinking about selling my TWD. Both fantastic games but rage tilt much.
WOW 2 episodes!!! I thought Christmas already passed!!!!
Well now I know never to buy a second hand machine from Zach lol. Love the top 10 series though.
TWD has to be in the top five. Put TWD at five, Wonka at six and Star Wars at ten and the list is perfected.
Number 1 was easy to guess but I still own it hey did BKSOR or AIQ make honorable mention? I nominate if they didn't! Another kickass vid dam that was fun!
Ac/dc is by far the worst most expensive on location credit sucking ball guzzling broken pins you could ever have the misfortune of quickly playing! I thought it was put in the hall as some kind of sick joke. If you are going to commit to that currency craving creature don't go too far after your turn because it's your turn again before you know it. Honestly the only reason to have that game is to make the other pins seem inexpensive or make you feel like your good at the other machines after spending a little time on the ac/dc pin.
Would love a Top 10 90s Pins by you guys! Great show as usual.
Absolutely loved this video guys. Lmfbo!!!! Great list.
Whirlwind?
Bought a Ghostbusters brand new in box.. it lasted 6 months before I couldn’t take it anymore… kinda miss the rage sweats it would induce
Git gud, son
I remember playing it in pinball arcade, made me want to snap my tablet in half after just a few sessions.
Such a good theme and layout but that gap tho
Walking Dead is one of the greatest pinball machines ever. Much like STTNG. Tough, but awesome.
Same with Dracula. Top game.
JackBot - great Williams design, super fun rule set and fun to play. But the JackBot Visor drains, pop bumpers drain, and if not adjusted perfectly, the Vortex drains.
Have you never played The Beatles ?
Besides frustration it’s a sterile machine.
One of my favorites! (Zach)
Man......im hurting for more SDTM...... so yall still do a show together? Me and the wife love the show and just keep watching the same ones over and over hoping for new ones! 🎉😢
For me #1 most anger inducing is the JJP Guns n Roses. Every game the first 2 balls are lost within 30 seconds by either slingshot bounce into the right outlane, then by hitting the AFD target next to the left ramp which goes SDTM. Third ball can start a sympathy song with no patches and no balls locked. Average ball time on my game is 86 seconds - I'm sick of posing for pictures while giving the game my middle finger
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Judge Dredd for me. I own that machine and have never been able to get all 4 judges during multiball. After you drain your 2nd to last ball the mode ends! No extra time like in Indiana Jones. Impossible, but I still love it.
When you said Ghostbusters....I felt that.
😭🤬🤪😠
Walking Dead LE hands down. Sometimes you can blow it up and it lets you know it... But man this game is evil and so good at the same time!!!
Thank you I would get so mad at my TMNT LE, I had to trade it for a Maiden Premium, those ramps are insanely hard I feel like the ramps are like a quarter in off its almost impossible to get in a rhythm and the whole thing is set up on combos.
Odd call on WoZ - maybe because I own it, but its certainly not a drain monster. It has a center post, and even the out lanes allow you to save the ball through mini games (TOTO and Follow the Yellow Brick Road modes). The only gripe I could see is relatively short ball save times. I'd put a few more game on that one for sure... I like all your other picks! I knew Greg would pick Willy Wonka. I think he's traumatized for life on that one.
Also own one and don't find it a drain monster. Pick one up and learn it ! One thing I do find less-balanced to the other main achievements is earning Dorothy multiball; not an easy feat but doable. There are other modes that are rather challenging to complete (accuracy and timed - ugh). But the wife and I enjoy this one and I don't ever see us selling. However, the price of the super-kewl toys is anger inducing 😅
@@justal4844 Yeah its my wife's favorite machine, which is great because I can put more time on the AIQ. WoZ is beautiful, but like most wide bodies, can feel floaty and slower paced. I find my ball times so long on WoZ that I can only play one game. That's why I found their assessment of WoZ being a drain monster confusing.
My favorite episode to date. I too identify with pinball Tourette’s. Most notably JJP GnR when for some reason the universe will not allow me to hit the center scope to collect the applause jackpot, and I get so worked up at the agony of defeat when the lights go out and the flippers go dead! But when I hit a huge jackpot it is a similar response…just with joy and excitement. The pendulum swing is from one limit to the other. I wish I could have recorded some of my rants…it really is a form of poetry at times. Great stuff guys.
Yeah that game pisses me off to the core too (Zach)
I made the cut with Last Action Hero!
I remember you guys triggering a lot of pinheads for throwing those off the roof.
Vector. I hate that game so much. Random large points for people who don't know what they are doing and tilt encouraging saucers in the outlanes when the bonus is so important. I hate life whenever I have to play it in a tournament.
Not sure about random large points? I mean, the game rewards shots in sequence. Very specific rules to increase multipliers and so forth.
That said, it was one that I moved along as I found it a bit floaty to play, particularly as you can't set the angle up aggressively as it nils the outlane saves which are quite fun when you have it set up just right.
I remember playing the Ghostbusters pinball machine a few years ago and balked at the $1.00 per game cost alone. The game itself was awful despite the neat looking table, being the epitome of the sludge from the second movie.
Houdini. I have never owned a pinball machine that insults you more frequently, even when it spits the ball itself out the outlanes. Pretty sure they got Don Rickles involved in the writing. Cute at first; then gets really old. It's a shame too, because the game is gorgeous but riddled with stupid magic cliches and endless boos and insults and an announcer that sounds like a bad DJ or the Progressive commercial box.
Simpson's is anger inducing because when the ball drains within 1 minute there is no ball save, and the ball drains way too easily
adding that Zeppelin drains too easily too I think
Agree with iron man even though it's awesome, but twilight zone has to be on this list, especially if ww is ( a later, updated version imho).
Agree on the AC/DC although my Premium is still rage inducing at a political level. Recently vowed to never wax it again because it is so fast now, the quick drains are literally not detectable by the human eye. And while TNT is one of my favorite songs, that mission in the game is cursed by demons. Still love it though.
TNT is hellish.
I usually start with whole lotta Rosie or for those about to rock. I can get hells bells pretty consistently too.
I’ve gotten some shots down 100% but the rest are nightmarish.
I wouldn’t play it if there was anything else easily accessible close to me, lmao.
Nice summary guys, pretty spot on. I'd add the following games to your list as they can also be brutal and anger inducing! Black Knight, Alice Cooper Nightmare Castle, Funhouse, Houdini, Fish Tales, Creature, Simpson's Pin Party, Jurassic Park, Rick & Morty
A bit dated .but BoneBusters gets my vote ...I think the anger induced was because it was just a crappy tbl ( imho) .
We need more time on Bone Busters. Not always an easy title to find.
Great list, haven't played all of them so ill take your words on those. Personally Fish Tales is the one that really pisses me off ALOT! I cant stop playing it when i see it in the wild but man
Agree on TMNT. Got a NIB pro from Zach and it only lasted about two weeks. I realized playing it was just making me mad and I don’t love spending $6k just to get angry.
Oh man, thanks for mentioning AC/DC.
It’s the closest one to me in a laundry mat so when I have some change and want to get a few games in I ply that machine.
Been cutting my teeth on it for awhile and Jesus, man. I’ve had multi ball maybe two, three times. I’ve never been able to get through more than two songs. It’s so difficult.
I can't believe you put Star Wars on the list and didn't mention the end of ball call outs by Yoda. He's one of my favorite characters from the movies, but when I'm playing this pinball machine, I hate Hate HATE Yoda. I wish Stern would come out with alternative end of ball call outs.
Stern Jurassic Park for me. Very satisfying game when you are hitting your shots, but the game will make you pay for missing some tight shots.
Your ranking is thoughtful and reasonable. It was an entertaining list. My list is: 1. Road Show. 2. Ghostbusters( my first Grand Champion) 3.Funhouse 4.Batman Forever ( instant drains on brain drain ?!) 5. Fish Tales 6. Lethal Weapon 3 7. Dirty Harry 8. Jurassic Park 9. The Avengers 10.Deadpool My favorite is World Cup Soccer 94( scored more than 3.000.000.000 lately and Theatre of Magic( more than 2.600.000.000 and Game of Thrones as Baratheon ( more than 2.000.000.000. Dracula is a very hard pinball for me.
Oh damn some great ones in your list!
Pinball = Swearing
Countdown starts at 10:25
Yeah, I had to fast forward to get to the content. Thought I had missed something.
Yuuuuuup. I like their pinball content. I don’t care about their banter…
Keep the content coming you guys are great.
Wow thanks Chad. And yeah Bone and I aren’t going anywhere. 2022 is gonna be stellar
TMNT Pro was my first pin I got during lockdown after watching your review. I love how hard it is but that sewer Borg drain kills me. Damn Borg bounce 😅
Just a heads up, the first nine and a half minutes or so is just these two swapping dull banter. I wish someone had warned me.
Ahhhh sorry about that shermy. Hey at least you’re warned now for future episodes :)
If you've got a friend who's never played before, Iron Man is the perfect game to introduce them to pinball... if your goal is to ensure they never play pinball again. Cheap drains aplenty, magnets that yeet the ball down the middle, a _slanted sling top specifically designed to guide the ball into the &@#%ing left outlane_ - Iron Man's got it all and then some. It's precisely the kind of game that convinces most outsiders that pinball is nothing but luck.
Violet turned into a balloon ? Lol. She turned into a blueberry
Yeah but the effect they did in the movie was basically balloon her
A few of those games definitely have design flaws IMO. You guys made a great list.
I really hope your Grandma's aren't watching 😂. Happy Christmas/New Year chaps
Even so, would they remember? Womp womp :(
May I make two mentions of my own? One is "Twilight Zone" by Bally/Midway. The number of "toys" in the center left of the table make it VERY hard to keep a ball in play. Another is a Gottlieb classic called "Central Park". The small flippers make it nearly impossible to get a respectable score.
I recently picked up a Genesis and oh boy that game is BRUTAL
The only way I have been able to even play that game is moving the outlane posts all the way in with the fattest rubbers I can find.
It has side kickers that shoot the ball AT the outlanes, and the varitarget in the middle slows the ball down and gently guides it SDTM.
Such a punishing game. If there is ever a game to practice slap saves and outlane nudges on, it’s genesis.
John Borg games are anger inducing! Munsters, KISS, Aerosmith, Metallica, Iron Man, Walking Dead, TMNT, Tron, Indiana Jones (Stern), Guardians of the Galaxy, Austin Powers......not saying none of them are enjoyable games because there are good ones there but is Borg games they have no mercy and the Outlanes are BRUTAL on most of his pins. Munsters is one example of OUTLANES that are just AWFUL! Almost ruins the gameplay experience......he has some others as well that are vomit inducing pinball machines.....very difficult to score a good score and just frustrating from beginning to end! I almost hate playing John Borg designed pins as his games are frustrating more than any other designer I've played in recent years.
Yeah he's not a good designer. He's used the Metallica layout for too many games and uses the cheapest methods for you to lose the ball. He just keeps failing upward.
It is funny that Ghostbusters, TMNT, Star Wars, and WOZ are the games I play the most in my collection. The only other game I play a lot that isn't on your list is Jurassic Park. I hate that game, but I keep playing it.
Let the tears flow. Lol.. keep the videos coming guys !
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100% Agree on TMNT. If you aren't on your game, you smash posts (I've replaced my post sleeves twice) or the stand ups targets next to the ramps that rocket the ball straight down the middle. The spinning Pizza disc throws balls straight down the middle. Right sling throws the ball into the cavernous left out lane. Steep ramps roll back and go straight down the middle. Turtle van lock bounces around and rejects if you don't hit it clean. The 1-2-3 combo call out seems to pop up constantly. You have 4 turtles, but only 1 is useful if you want to try for a high score. I still own it because when you are on your game and you chain left ramp - right ramp - inner loop - outer loop- turtle van the flow makes you forget for a split second that the game is constantly trying to rob you.
The honorable mention on GOTG is justified too. The Nebula and Gamora cross over shots are great as is the Groot head, one of the coolest looking pinball toys IMO. Those left shots though are all tight (Yondu, Ronin, Rocket) and the over reliance on the far right scoop drives everyone crazy. What saves this pin is that cherry bomb multi ball is a minute of pure insane pinball joy along with the code update that includes all the music and call outs from the movie. Also, my wife won't let me get rid of something that has Chris Pratt on it, so it is basically bolted the the floor.
Pinball anger move - I tend not to swear or hit the machine, but I turn away quick and sometimes swing my arm to punch the air. That's not a problem at home where there is nothing behind me. On location where there are people and drinks and no one has planned for a 6'5 250lb man to spin around because he sucks at pinball, it becomes a problem.
Really shocked Rick and Morty wasn't top 5 even after the code update
Any jersey jack really. But it only comes after the ball ends and you look up at the screen to see how little points you got
So great to see another video so quickly! Keep it up guys!
Well I thought I would add a couple of tables that I am pretty certain made the "owners" angry. A local bowling alley had a Wizard table that my friends and I must have played for close to a year on. It had a short circuit on the start switch that when slapped downward, would start the game and also rack up a few more on the counter. Adding insult to injury for them it had a dime slot per game.😜💸 At another's location, was a Frontier table with a similar problem, only this one would rack up multiple games by forcefully sliding the dime down the slot. Not only were the games extremely cheap for us to play, it gave us time to master both of them , that only increased the number of games played for free.😁
I actually enjoyed AC/DC, Ghostbusters and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles by Stern Pinball.
I started rewriting the Eagle’s Life in the fast lane to Life in the outlanes. The surely make me lose my mind.
Have to say...
Whirlwind
Flash Gordon
Ghostbusters
Black Knight
Ooooh all great ones
my go to anger move is spitting on the back glass...am legendary for that move with people who have played pinball with me throughout the years...even my Thai wife got to see a demonstration at a game room in Bangkok about 8 years ago (playing AC/DC)...she just commented on that while we were watching this vdo...
Man I wish I would have skipped the "after the credits part". Im gonna have to scrub my brain somehow 😂😳😩😭🙈🙉🍆
Hahaha way too funny improv banter between two best friends to cut it. I had a hard time getting through the edit because I was dying laughing
After owning a Led Zeppelin for a couple of months. It definitely should’ve been on this list
Apparently, I like rage inducing games, haha! Most of my favorite pins are on this list!
This is a very aptly timed video. Recently my kids and wife let me know that they've become frightened as my profanity-laced tantrums can be heard throughout the entire house even with the door closed.
As of November I got my first pin in a Jurassic Park Premium and even I'll admit I'm already a little too passionate about catching dinos. I even had to go full douchebag and buy some cycling gloves with palm protection as I've not yet developed a callous to soften my slap saves. I feel pretty dumb that I scream at a machine but to me these damn outlanes are just not fair even after lowering an outlane post as suggested in various forums. A friggin' eighth of an inch adjustment only made my outdrain go from 95% to 90%. Couple this with the constant nudge battle that only hastens ball death or results in the dreaded drainbow SDTM and I'm just kicking a nearby couch and double birding this machine that I otherwise love and can't stop playing. Then you've got this son of a bitch that's even mocking you as you drain right. Newman! And is it me or does that damn truck always seem to be facing the wrong way when you're firing a homing missile? Lastly I'd add that when you hit your shots this game is a masterpiece of pinball perfection but when you miss by mere millimeters this game is brutal with its instadrains as you clank off some dumbass post again.. and again.. and again.. But I still love it. ❤️
Don't feel bad I have a pair of padded weight lifting gloves lol
Ghostbusters Pro has been my first and only pin. Change the settings and the game comes alive and you don’t mind the drains. My best score was 4.23 billion on 5 balls and the normal factory settings. Greatest game play feeling possible.
Gregg, got time whilst Stunt Double for John Wick???? Happy New Year to you both and families...Smash 22!!!
Happy New Year to you and your family! Ha ha ha I’m waiting for that John Wick call!!!
The secret is 577145 upside down as "ShILLS".
SPOILER ALERT! Haha
Family reunions are supposed to bring families together. if its something you want to avoid then YOU definitely need to be there. otherwise you are doing ti wrong.
Stranger Things. Stand up target to SDTM!
Clearly never played South Park, ball drains down the sides constantly
The wall next to my Jurassic Park premium has the mark of my knuckle
As someone who is not very good and new to pinball. The AFM I have on hire at the moment should have it's name changed to "SDTM" because it's brutal. It's lucky it's not in the river. Simple rule set, But punishes any shot not perfectly made.
Great video and great list - felt very genuine. Wishing you success with your channel!
Stern 'Stars' gets me soo pissed off at the CHEAP DRAINS...straight down the middle and the left outlane that I just slam my fist repeatedly on the glass while cussing my damn fool head off. But like an ass I hit the start button for another round of aggravation.
An that Dracula game knows it too because if you drain an you give it an angry shake........ tilt warning........ = no bonus at all which makes you more angry!!!
I love my TWD but the cheap drains out of those pops are frustrating.
I'm not proud of it, but a couple machines have gotten a fist to the glass. I can neither confirm nor deny that those games are on this list.
Ahahahahahaha I've played a lot of Ghostbusters at my local bar and I can't agree more. Not only do I hate the machine, I can't stop playing it.
I wonder if any of you guys are familiar with The Black Pyramid, it was in my high school. We would burn that game up, we would play it at lunch and I was late to class daily!
Should of ended the episode with a Game of ... you guessed it ... GhostBusters !!
Are you considering pinballs before 2010. Pinbot should be there.!