How Activision killed the Cybertron Games (Documentary)
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- How Activision killed the Cybertron Games (Documentary).The rise & fall of the War for Cybertron games documentary is here. TH-cam Transformers, Transformers video game 2018, activision rant, youtube activision, fall of cybertron, rise of the dark spark.
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Transformers War for Cybertron was and still is the best Transformers game I have ever played, it harps on the tropes of the G1 series while utilizing the physicalities of the Michael Bay Transformers series. What's cool about this game is how there are minimal cutscenes because the gameplay serves as such, there's never a dull moment to where you the player don't feel involved.
Published By: Activison
Developed By: High Moon Studios
Platforms: PS3, Xbox 360, PC
Released Date: June 22, 2010
Transformers Fall of Cybertron was and still is the best Transformers game I have ever played, it harps on the tropes of the G1 series while utilizing the physicalities of the Michael Bay Transformers series. What's cool about this game is how there are minimal cutscenes because the gameplay serves as such, there's never a dull moment to where you the player don't feel involved.
Published By: Activison
Developed By: High Moon Studios
Platforms: PS3, Xbox 360, PC
Released Date: August 21, 2012
Transformers Dark of the Moon takes place 3 years after the 2nd game and shows the events that happen before the actual theatrical film. Join Optimus and the rest of the Autobots as they try to thwart the rest of the Decepticons plans to revive Shockwave. I really loved what High Moon Studios did with this game. They went outta their way to introduce gameplay mechanics similar to what they used in Transformers War for Cybertron while keeping the aesthetic of the Bay films.
Published By: Activision
Developed By: High Moon Studios
Platforms: PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, Wii, Nintendo 3DS, Nintendo DS, iOS, Symbian, BlackBerry
Release Date: June 14, 2011
0:00 Intro
1:00 High Moon Studios Approach
2:42 War for Cybertron Development
7:27 War for Cybertron Online Multiplayer
8:29 Audio Recording Process
9:49 Positive Reception
10:49 Dark of the Moon
11:19 First sign of Activision's Greediness
12:36 Special Abilities
13:38 Design Flaws
14:26 Ruined by Short Deadline - บันเทิง
By far the best part of War For Cybertron was this interaction
Starscream: Unbelievable! These Autobots are dumber than Skywarp!
Skywarp: "Dumber than Skywarp?" I'll show you dumb, Starscream!
Starscream: You always do.
Dummy thicc
Also in that same mission.
Thundercracker: Cybertron is trying to purge itself of contamination.
Skywarp: What contamination?
Starscream: He means us you idiot!
When in the mission does he say this???
Best dialogue I heard of that game
"at least i'm not ugly"
"ugly? you and i look the same!"
War for Cybertron and ESPECIALLY Fall of Cybertron will remain as some of the greatest games I have ever played.
Alex Mercier sad that I'll never get to played them so I don't have a ps3 or ps4 to played them 😢
Optimus 456 um they're on Xbox? Which means they should be on Windows 10 if you're a pc player
Alex Mercier tru dat
Same. I still get the music from FoC stuck in my head on a regular basis.
I have my kids playing them to this day. Escalation is a better game than COD zombies.
War for cybertron- Great
Dark of the moon- Mediocre
Fall of cybertron- Amazing
Rise of the dark spark- Terrible
I really liked ROTF , DOTM multiplayer I spent so much time in those as a kid
@@eaglesrj7685 I swear, I used to grind on DOTM multiplayer
@@eaglesrj7685 I also legit liked the Revenge of the Fallen game. The single and multiplayer.
Man I used to have so much fun playing rise of the dark spark I think it was really fun but fall of cyber tron was my number 1 cybertron game also I liked revenge of the fallen
I’m just happy I picked fall of cyber tron instead of some other game
War/fall of cybertron really captured what true transformers fans love about the series. The gameplay was so satisfying and such a fun multiplayer experience
Well except me of course I hate Highmoon Cybertron Transformers game
@@titanstudios2683 meh
@@titanstudios2683 ha ha no you don’t😑
@@titanstudios2683 shut up bayverse fan
@@titanstudios2683 There is no such thing as a wrong opinion, until your post 😂
Fun fact: Rise of the Dark Spark was the first game that made me realized how easily "recyclable" games can be. I felt especially cheated when I saw how they just copy-pasted a huge part of the Iacon map in Wars for Cybertron and called it part of Kaon. *facepalm*
Very good commentary too. That's the first time a reviewer of the games mentioned each character having very unique gameplay mechanics. For me, I never need to play another hack-and-slash, stealth, or mech game bc of FOC. I can play Cliffjumper or Starscream to play stealth, Grimlock for hack-and-slash, and Bruticus as a super-mech!
Yeah, i saw that too, especially the highway in WFC
Yeah they were only a few good things I liked in Rise of the Dark Spark most of it on the cybertron category such as the dialogue from Jazz and Sideswipe,etc and were probably the only good things, but the Bayverse thing well it grew boring quickly along
@@gunstrokethecybertronian8659 For me, really the only thing that even makes me think back to Rise of the Dark Spark was Drift's ability, but then I started playing League of Legends and Master Yi's Alpha Strike is literally the same thing.
I appreciated it this weekend when I finished FOC and was like, "But I'm not done!" Had a few more levels to play in that game lol
to this day, Rise of the Dark Spark will never be considered a sequel to Fall of Cybertron
It's not even a game.
i played it was shiit
Actually it’s some reason a prequel to the fall of cybertron game
I like rotds
@@trashbag1146 Logic
Activision has officially completely killed off their transformers games, they have shut down the multiplayer servers for every transformers title they made
i was so sad when i learned that, childhood memories:(
Actually ROTF still has multiplayer on Xbox 360 from what I heard.
@@nemynoodl3 really?
They also removed them from PSN and Marketplace. So you cannot buy them digitally or their DLC's.
@@nemynoodl3 No all servers are shut down. The ROTF servers have been off for a little longer since Luxoflux shut down in 2010
MT: "What a waste of energon."
OP: "After Eons of conflict I finally see the truth of your words Megatron..."
MT: "And what might that be Optimus?"
OP: "This continuity. No matter how vast will never be big enough for it and Michael Bay to coexist."
later that solar cycle....
MT: "No. The portal."
OP: "Michael Bay's explosions are tearing the ship apart!"
MT: "NO, I will not be denied!"
Deluded Dimdoul Underrated comment
XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD
Deluded Dimdoul I read it in their voices
“Michael Bay’s explosion” 🤣🤣🤣
lmao
"The Marketing was piss poor"
Jesus christ no kidding I didn't even know that there was a remaster and I loved this game
Kyle Ramsey I swear it was just sold digitally as well and it’s even available anymore RIP
Is it even on the ps store?
Ben Smith no
They did the same thing with marvel ultimate alliance 1 and 2
I can't even find it on Amazon when I found out yesterday. I'm a huge TF fan so I have no clue how I didn't know about it.
I miss Fall Of Cybertron Deathmatch so much
yeah, same here. I played both WfC and FoC and the latter just impressed me so much gameplay wise. Multiplayer was a real treat
@@erickremers3986 the multyplayer is still active in WFC And FOC
@@kessler682 well yeah technically but no one plays
@@erickremers3986 there is Players
@@kessler682 depends on the platform I guess
Grimlock's FOC design is so damn good.
RatFacedJasper does Grimlock die at the end? How do the Dinobots get to earth?
Michael Hutchen no he gets sent to earth by litterly shooting up through a wormhole
RatFacedJasper I love it’s anime style and I like the sword in gridlocks room in fall of cybertron I liked that sword better than the one he had in the game when we unlock him
RID made him look horrible
@@ThiccFurryBoi34 are you being sarcastic? Mine was a serious question
I hate that they were never able to make a 3rd sequel to fall of cybertron. Damn good game.
Honestly I hope high moon studios can make a real sequel to those games even though the ending for fall of cybertron pretty much aligned with the generation 1 series which thats what I feel
They technically did, but it sucked.
@@BanishedSilentShadow3318 fall of cybertron and war for cybertron are prequels to transformers prime. Its a show that has three seasons and a movie its amazing you should watch it. Sadly it got cancelled because the animation was expensive.
@@blueranger7869 I’m glad it got cancelled. Season 4 plans looked really goofy
@@silly-xd8uq Plans is all they were. Plans could've been changed multiple times prior to actual animation and episodic release.
Don't know why this video is garnering so much attention after 7 months of being uploaded. But I'm eternally grateful that there are people who took time to watch.
@Vortex 22100 hey man just post the link in a single comment so I can pin it. I can do it if its a reply to people's comments.
Came up on my feed and luckily clicked it. WFC and FOC are amazing games! it's such a shame that High Moon were given the boot and had such success torn out. Excellent video RBG!
It's a great topic about a great game series, I just noticed the vid from youtube suggestions today.....algorithms
I thoroughly enjoyed this doc of yours. After seeing the recent Bumblebee commercial, I remembered how fantastic War for Cyberton and Fall of Cyberton were as well as the 2004 Armada game that was my first ever Transformers video game experience. It's overall sad how the events for the Cybertron series went about but I'm also kind of glad that it ended too. Don't get me wrong, I loved these games but after Bay, Transformers really needed a low point to potentially cause a shift in direction and a franchise refresh...I hope this Bumblebee movie can influence the start of another great era of the Transformers IP. One can hope I suppose lol
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Man I remember when the Fall of Cybertron Trailer hit, I must have watched that trailer on repeat for 2 hours I was so excited
Dragonslaya2000 I remember it too. I was at a house party playing MW2 then I left mid game to watch it on TH-cam from the Video Game Awards.
Me too. Everyone was obsessed with BO II but I was pumped for FoC.
IKR ME TOO
Me too
+Dragonslaya2000 Same! I was at Baskin Robbins eating ice cream when the trailer dropped. I was out sitting on the outside tables, dark as hell out, and I was staring at my phone completely blown away that a new Cybetron game was coming out. Had me so damn hyped.
the should remake these games and combine them in one game.
Ikr
Yeah imagine the graphics for them on new generation consoles
Kinda like the stickman collection?
TransFormers: The Cybertron Collection
or make it a movie :)
High moon's timeline is the best.
CHANGE MY MIND.
Yes.
nobody can
I don't think anyone wants to change your mind
Because you're right
There is nothing to change it just fax
The name is alingned
Fall of Cybertron. You will never find a more accurate and enjoyable Transformers game and story that damn near rivals the classic G1 cartoon.
I played this game too much when i was 8
Craig Steward I grew up with the G1 cartoon in the 80s, and for me Fall of Cybertron is the single best piece of Transformers media of any kind. I loved playing that game.
Craig Steward
Really late, but what are your thoughts on Transformers: Devastation?
JavaScript Looked amazing. Loved the style, but gameplay was repetitive, and the story was weak. Should have been much more than it was.
What about WoC
I wish i was in an alternate universe where High Moon made a 3rd game.
Me too, but then you have to realize that there's and alternate universe where the Transformers franchise is hated...it's sad. Then again, that also means there's one where WE are Transformers and that's an awesome thought!
@@StarBlaster2000 Imagine being transformers.....Oh boy that would be interesting
But we are on they alternated timeline, where high moon didn't made the 3rd game.
StarBlaster2000 that, is probably impossible but ok
@@psychic882 the pain in the ass we would get for everytime we transformed
Game devs like High Moon deserve all the success in the world the great amount of detail, respect, and hard work they put into their games. It's sad how badly they were treated by people who only care about money.
The Aligned continuity had my favorite interaction of Grimlock. They made him a leader but not dumb as a rock. They just made him hard to think.
And I don’t consider the grimlock in RID to be the same grimlock from the games.
Yep, they’re basically separate entities.
It's actually canon they're different individuals who just happen to both be named Grimlock.
@@cormacoregan471 That's so lazy
I knew Dark Spark was a bad call. I was always hesitant on getting it but I'm glad I didn't. The Fall of Cybertron was always my favorite transformers game
FoC is everyone's favorite Transformers game........
I was hyped by dark spark and bought it soon after it was released. I was so disappointed. It is a terrible and boring game. I immediately went back to FoT in order to remind myself what a good transformers game is like.
I actually bought it recently because I was desperate for something new.
how did that go?
Luna Ranger I loved FoC but I personally thought WFC was better. It had a nice dark tone to it
On War for Cybertron, my favourite line is getting a headshot with Optimus using the Null ray and hearing him say "right between the optics".
@@kharsulde4356 the honor is all yours - Megatron
@@kharsulde4356 we're actually doing a lets play of WFC on our channel if you want to join and relive those moments. Such a great game! - Starscream
@@TheDecepticonEmpire nah advertise your channel somewhere else
Why Hello There he was not talking to you
@@delilahrivadeneira4547 i was not talking to you
Dad: why tf you crying ?
Son: the downfall of the war for Cybertron games
Dad:*tears*
Son: are you crying
Dad: yes son , I am crying
Like father like son
"Team deathmatch, eliminate the enemy team"
A sentence that built a massive part of my childhood
Massive fan of what Highmoon did with this series and I hope one day they will be allowed to continue
We are here and we are waiting
I hope they make a war for cybretron remaster
@@edgarb919 Why does it need a remaster??
They just need to start selling it again
Cant even get digital coppies
Me too man! High did there thing with transformers and I hope they can find a way to get us a 3rd sequel
War and Fall of Cybertron were my childhood. Love those games, I just wish the online was as active as it used to be
It's still active on PS3.
Still have it on my xbox 360 aslwell as dark of the moon
didn't they shut down the servers
@@benparsons4979 That was back when the servers were still up
HMS put their heart and soul into the cybertron games. They respected the source material but also showed us a part of the lore that we never really saw before. The atmosphere was up there with other top tier games and the gameplay itself was solid. The designs for the characters are some of the best in the franchise and the campaigns in both were great.
It's a shame that activision cared more about cashing in on the bay movies instead of letting HMS continue with the cybertron games. It should have been a trilogy but the corporate suits at AV robbed us of it and it's a damn shame.
I used to be a god in Fall of Cybertron. I remember carrying my entire team destroying other teams and causing people to rage quit from how good I was. Fall of Cybertron was one game that I mastered. I was sad when the game dyed out. Long live Mrbluetomato (that was my profile name)
Hell Mon000 weird flex but ok jk 🤔😂
Yeah me too! I loved playing mostly as a scout with the scatter blaster and nucleon charge rifle. I was so good I was able to stop hackers.
I was never good, but I loved the game nonetheless, if you wanna play on pc, I’m always looking for anyone who wants to play
DUDE I KNOW THAT NAME WTF!! you never on my team except once in the horde mode. you were good you played a leader class right? or were they destroyers damn i forget now
@@Luey yeah I was a destroyer a lot of the times I think. I really miss the escalation mode, I have yet to play a mode as good as that other than the older call of duty zombies
The Fall of Cybertron... A great game, true to it’s name.
Except me of course FOC is s#it
@@titanstudios2683 no way FOC is 1000/10
@@alumlovescake nope these two games I'll give it 0/10
@@titanstudios2683 Your opinion I hate to use the term but I assume your a fortnite kid?
@@alumlovescake actually I'm a mobile game kid
It's really disappointing that they just threw these awesome games away only because of a license expiration after all that time and creativity spent to make those games, especially War for Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron. They are my favorite Transformers games as well as my favorite shooting games. I was hoping for them to remaster War for Cybertron for PS4 and Xbox One like they did with Fall of Cybertron with a few fixes.
There needs to have some kind of petition to bring back those games available into the latest gen consoles. Make it a thousand to show how much the Transformers gaming community desire these games.
Shiro Tsuki agreed,people also want the Transformers armada 2004 ps2 game brought back aswell but that game is so good.
I wish they had developed some sort of Open World Version that features the VERY Begining of the War, and you can start as Megatron, and Optimus at the beginning of the Campaign.
Good cause I hate WFC and FOC game
I, Eric Lecarde, have a dream: That someday we get another Transformers game in the style of WFC without Activision dragging down the project.
*R.I.P High moon..freaking Born and lasted as a Trooper*
Now high moon make call of duty dlc
@@externalboss9404 fucking bad ending if I ever saw one
Don't tell me it's dead. Don't tell me it's *breaks down crying* it's dead.
you can still play multiplayer on both WfC and FoC on ps3 and xbox... but pc yeh...is dead
@Vortex 22100 just signed
@@wallervand I don't care about fucking multiplayer. Who the fuck plays these games for multiplayer. I want the continuation of the story, what happened after the portal, the proper sequel to it, with more awesome designed levels, epic giant boss fights and stuff like that.
You mean *B R. E A K D O W N*
@@ragingsaviorkami9862 lmafo what's wrong with you? some may be wondering if they still can play mp, I didn't direct it ONLY TO YOU smh
Fall of Cybertron wa the first game I've ever preordered and bought all DLC for, and boy was it worth it. I adored the art style, animations, gameplay and all. After playing through the campaign 10+ times and having hundreds of hours spewed into the multiplayer, I can say this is the best game I've ever played on the PS3. I can't wait to see cybertron in Bumblebee and I really hope for another great cybertron title without greedy publishers.
What a fantastic and well researched documentary!
Honestly, it's great to see someone actually aware of how the industry works. The term "lazy developers" is one that's thrown around too much. There's no such thing as a lazy game dev. Believe me, game devs can move over to basic software development and make 3-5x the amount they would in games. Game devs are usually in it for the passion of what they do.
The reason games fail is usually due to a lack of time, budget and in most cases both. Things the devs have zero control over.
I just want a remastered version of both Transformers war and fall for the ps4:((
Great video by the way
Apparently FoC was remastered...
You will never find it. Ever.
@@sethbennett3278 yeah, for some reason both the Xbox and PS4 remaster cannot be purchased and are digital only, the Xbox version is even displayed on the store with a price of £30
@@Lexie_Tyler05 Where can i find it?
@@ISh1n you can't, the Xbox Store version just "isn't available right now" and from what I've heard the PS4 version has a similar thing, unless you have a code it's impossible to get
@@Lexie_Tyler05 aw man...
Honestly the Cybertron games are some of my most favorite games ever and I will never forget them. They gave us a Story not really much explored up to the point of their releases a story set purely on Cybertron, and not set on Earth with (occasionally) annoying Human characters. I feel that the Movieverse and all Transformers games and stories going forward should really learn from the Cybertron games, for they truly are so awesome and explored my most favorite part of the entire Mythos. Anyway loved this video RBG, it is so brilliant!!!! :) #TillAllGamersR1
Same for me!
Aiden Ly ikr I do too!!!! :)
Aiden Ly Well...I think in TF: Prime the humans are very well integrated (except Miko in the early episodes, she's kinda annoying but she grow in the rest of the serie)
Luke Skywalker the 2nd true
agreed nothing else to say
War for Cybertron: good
Dark of the Moon: average
Fall of Cybertron: awesome
Rise of the Dark Spark: cash grab made to (attempt to) tie in to Age of Extinction
I thought ROTF had a pretty good game.
SomethingAwesomeSpactular I say it was a meh game. Didn't do much new. And it got rid of the pvp
The Amazing Mollusk whats pvp?
ST _SAV player vs player, a game mode.
U1GX thanks
That fall of cybertron trailer will forever be my favorite
Fall of Cybertron, War for Cybertron, and Dark of the moon were what I grew up on. Its so sad to see what I used to love thrown away because of greed.
Transformers War for Cybertron is fantastic, Fall of Cybertron is one of my favorite games of all time, and Rise of the dark spark can go to hell.
Activision can go to hell
No WFC and FOC game must go to hell
@@vanderwallstronghold8905 FK off
Transformers fall of Cybertron is by far my favourite of all transformers video games
Same
Same I still play it over and over again because Megatron and Soundwave are my favourite characters from transformers
Roowee I was so hyped for it. I even bought it on release for 60 bucks.
Not to mention, that was the first time the sequel of anything turned out to be better than the first of the series for me.
Same pick
Activision: “I like money”
*Roll Credits*
I swear, i REALLY love coming back to this video. it's such a well-produced video detailing the past of the great transformers games and how far they've come. also gives me a lot of nostalgia, the Cybertron games are THE BEST TF games to come out. great video bro
This video reminded me that everything good comes to an end. To be honest, I'm pretty sure those games were my childhood, I remember playing them all day, even just repeating the missions, it was just so good, it was a fresh and original concept that haven't been approached before and that made it stand out, that made it good, but then people try to make cheap replicas to try and imitate that success, which fortunately failed, this is what happens to all good games. May you rest in peace Transformers, your time will come again one day. One day...
DDave 440 same
"'Till all are one...."
Because it had the touch.
Wow. So not only did Michael Bay ruin the films, but apparently Activision has ruined the games!
As it seems, the Transformers franchise can't take a break these days...
IMO, activision was great like 14 years ago.
@@alexgmplays8222 They've ruined many franchises! Transformers is not the first and will not be the last.
I actually liked the first Transformers movie game. The rest were crap imo.
🤦🏾♂️
I had both War for & Fall of Cybertron and for me those two were and always be the best updated cannon Story lines that the previous & next generation of fans enjoy & that was respectful and honoring the Transformers franchise as a whole!!
Fall of Cybertron will be one game i will never forget.
Nope still forgettable
@@titanstudios2683
Can you not shit on other peoples enjoyment for a series that Hasbro has yet to provide for many many years
@@titanstudios2683If you revisited this video years later, obviously it's still memorable even if you just don't like it.
FACTS.
@@titanstudios2683 cap 🧢
I used to be the world rank #1 WFC and FOC Scientist player on ps3 online. High Moon actually hit me up to help give them input on how to make the game's online experience and balance better. My gaming notes eventually became the first 3 patches for the ps3 version online. I sincerely appreciate you creating this content. I never thought I'd hear the day another person had enough love for these titles to have an accurate educated opinion. Ps3 Online Rank#1 Scientist. - weapon_
So sad. Wish it would come back but...
I used to be in a clan "UnKn0wN" back when people still played the game. I loved this game growing up. I remember I was top 400 in team deathmatch. And I was all prime in all of my characters in both games, we were in WFC then moved to FOC but I always loved WFC Multiplayer more. These games will always hold a special place in my heart. In WFC the scout was my main, i would always do a no-scope than melee and I was the strongest thing, the quick scopes had to be the funniest in WFC but they took it out in FOC. I had a friend play competitive FOC and was number 13 in the world, their clan actually got noticed by high moon.
Shouldve told them to nerf destroyer, that thing is still unbalanced to this day
wehttam oh shit so you were on xbox? we used to dominate the hell ot ouf unkn0wn lmao
Did you do the glitch where you can mege the classes
I was 9 years old and this game is basically what made me get into online games. My dad and I would use as many of the free trials as we could over summer break, it sucked when it ran out but little kid me will always cherish the fun times
I'm sad that I couldn't experience these games when they were in their prime( because I wasn't old enough to play them yet)
A real shame too, from what I have seen they were amaizing, both in story and gameplay
im sorry for your loss bro, FoC was truly one of the best games i have ever played
I used to play them when I was 4 with my brother
Man, trust me they were. I'm very sorry you couldn't experience them, especially War for Cybertron and even more especially Fall of Cybertron
Best shooter games of all times if you ask me. In each chapter you had to master a different strategy, the story was soo great. Man I miss them. I feel bad for the people who were born after the games were killed.
seeing the start and then seeing the end makes my heart sink
Im sad that WFC and FOC are removed from steam
You can still buy them on amazon
Jon foy why was FOC and WFC removed?
Activision lost the liscense
Devastation aswell
wait REALLY? I still have it on Steam
Words cannot express how amazing this video is. It’s so reassuring to see someone so passionate about not only these games, but the franchise as well. With Hasbro foreshadowing possible plans to give the licence out again, one can hope this is the start of something great. Again. Thank you so much! :)
agreed out there
I've been gaming for over 20 years, in all of that time I have only gained a 100% completion rating on 2 games.
War for Cybertron, Fall of Cybertron.
Jakobmightbemyname same except for 20 years of gaming. Mines only like 9-10
Only once have i gotten all trophies on PS3 Fall of Cybertron
I tried, but I lost the ability to play for awhile and when I returned I was striped of the ability to unlock the Multiplayer trophies.
woah, ive only had maybe like 9 years of gaming
Crazy story.. when i was younger (around 8-10) The only reason i was introduced to “transformers: war for cybetron” was because i lost the disc to “transformers: rise of the fallen” and my dad told my step mom to go to the store to buy me the same game so i would quit whining to him that i want the game. My step mom then proceeded to come back from the store the next day with the game. But when she gave me the game it wasn’t rise of the fallen. It was war for cybetron. And I didn’t fuss to much about it because it was still a transformers game and a new one so I played it with my dad a bit before he went to work and i fell in love with it. We ended up finding the rise of the fallen game under the rug😅. Later in the future i got the fall of cybetron game and was so happy. I am glad i was able to play both games without being told about it and found out about both games myself. So im glad i lost the transformers rise of the fallen game so I would be introduced to “Transformers: War for cybetron”
Im glad someone finally made a video laying out how HMS died. These days they just handle ports for Cod and aid Bungie in developing Destiny 2 (which isnt doing so hot.) I'm happy i got to experience War and Fall of Cybertron for what they were. Love those games and the worlds they built to death. Hearbreaking that we'll never get a sequel to Fall of Cybertron, but Im happy we got to experience what we got.
+Vortex Gaming your uncle made my childhood , tell him someone In the world said thank you, till all are one
Vortex Gaming you uncle made one of the best games I have ever played. Tell him I said thank you for working on such a masterpiece. A pity we never saw a continuation due to the greedy Activision.
Gearshifter09 you can watch g1 or prime and call it a sequel. Intially high moon had no vision after foc because it served as a prequel to prime or g1 not so sure but all and all we got 2 great games. Rip high moon. Rip Cybertron series.
I will say the soul of High Moon is still very much alive. Destiny 2, for how lackluster it launched, received it's most recent content drop in Forsaken, which was developed by not only Bungie but a large part of the exapansion was also developed by High Moon Studios, and man does it show. There is a particular mission in the game that is reminiscent of Chapter 3 in WFC with the trains and no joke, the mission in Destiny seems pretty much like an homage to that mission in WFC. It's so good.
+Vortex 22100 When High Moon Studios started working for Deadpool that's when their company died.
Wtf deadpool cost 100 million!? No wonder high moon studio got axed. I liked deadpool but it definetly did not feel like a 100m game.
Yup, kinda sad honestly.
if i remember correctly activision cut the budget during development
muhonen2 More Activision shenanigans i see.
@ muhonen2
Yes correct. This is a shady one, especially because at the begining it was considered a budget title(I bought the game for 30 bucks on Steam ON DAY ONE...OH! And no physical release for PC) . Apparently Activision gave High Moon a very little budget, with Activision constantly asking for cuts or money restrictions and no liberty(so yeah the jokes of Deadpool on the budget are real!).
www.justpushstart.com/2014/01/note-deadpool-development/
So why 100 millions? No one knows, not used for the game development for sure!
Strange Dominus This really saddens me, i really liked both cybertron game and was really excited for the 3rd game. But I guess Activision had other plans...
Man. Matt Tieger did an amazing job with the Cybertron games. Makes me really sad that a true 3rd game never came to fruition. The whole final push in War for Cybertron was so epic and intense.
Thanks for your time on this. I'm doing a replay through the Fall of Cybertron game on PC right now and very much enjoying it.
The Transformers Armada PS2 game was the shit, I must have played it for hundreds if not thousands of hours as a kid.
There was a lot of replay value with that game.
The war of the cybertron was the reason i even brought a ps3 in the first place.
Hey I fought in the PS3 wars , how long were you stationed
Church Cybergoth since Dec 2010
Same dude. WFC was the first fps I ever played and to this day I'd say its better than most games out there
@@certified0093 Its not fps?
Came across this video after so long, yet this is a great material. I did my own research for personal curiosity and several key points are spot on.
Both War and Fall of Cybertron (aka Cybertron series) are indeed the sole games I consider cannon to the excellent re-interpretation material. There was a soul and an understanding what transformers were.
I do not consider the third game part of the story, but essentially because I do not consider anything the recent movies did to be cannon... I could give Bumblebee movie a pass though for those awesome 5 minutes in Cybertron.
I would love for a true continuity from 1 & 2, and it could even be on Earth... It just shouldn't have "Bayham" content or aesthetics. It is so disappointing we do not have High Moon anymore, they understood respect for the source material.
Transformers games haven’t been good since the woc and foc games
Facts
What about Devastation?
Salvador Henriquez that game wasn’t that good. To short and felt incomplete almost.
@@DaJokaX for me the only problem was that i almost got epylepsis
Salvador Henriquez for me the game was just short and unfulfilling to play. Once done i felt no obligation to continue. It felt like it wasn’t fully planned.
I really like the Dark of the Moon game, but HOLY SHIT War For Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron are amazing.
Nah WFC and FOC game is awful
@@titanstudios2683 OK, what Transformers game do you like???
@@tritonk1759 Earthwars
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intense research? more like mandatory transformers G1 binge watching
I'd be down for "intense research."
@@Azrael_Equinox same
Screw Rise of the Dark Spark.
I consider Devastation to be the true follow-up to the Cybertron games, though the mechanical differences are highly apparent.
Hasbo should rehire all the original HighMoon DEV's and make a third part where the tutorial
takes place on the wreaked Auto-Bot Ark and the Decepticons are activated first like in the G1 cartoon for their campaign.
I've since boycotted any Activision products since the did HighMoon dirty and removed War For Cybertron and Fall Of Cybertron from the market,
now both games are sitting on my shelf gaining dust..
And not only that, but the online for both games have been shut down since April/May. So... y’know... now only memories of the matches played on those games remain.
Now I want to kick myself in the face for never getting FoC.
You can’t blame them for the games being removed from the store. Their license expired so legally they can’t be on sale any more. And what’s the point of keeping the servers for games that were delisted years ago and make no more money? Don’t get me wrong I hate Activision, for both what they did with transformers and High moon as well as their shitty buissness practices, but it’s not fair to blame them for things like this.
That would be fun. I'd go back for that:)
@@Stupiddumbmanditoryhandle same
Transformers FOC is honestly my favorite game of all time. I loved how incredibly informative the video was. I would love to play a "Return to Cybertron" game, or a game where you experience the dying landscapes of Cybertron after FOC.
When I get the Cybertron games (War and Fall), I'll play both of 'em.
Also, High Moon Studios needs to forget rise of the dark spark and give us the actual triquel to the Cybertron games.
Sebastian Orduz O I’ll assume that rotds is like a filler game or a soft reboot
If that happens, it'd be kinda funny if they referenced rotds through absurd outrage.
Like "just got word that the decepticons are moving to a planet called Earth, and they got something called the Dark Spark with them?" Followed by autobots dismissing that idea as it contradicts their current situation or something.
There are books set before, during, and after the two plus TF: Prime somewhat takes place in the same universe don't ask
Nah WFC and FOC must be forgetabble morons
@@titanstudios2683 Shut up you fool! Fall of Cybertron and War for Cybertron were both amazing. Rise of the Dark Spark is GARBAGE!
I am hoping that HASBRO decides to revisit High Moon Studios and the Cybertron games. I sort of grew up on them and I still want to see the story continue from there. The developers of the Cybertron games knew what they were doing and it showed in the final product. Not a single pixel wasn't left unpolished and everything felt like it had been through the worst. Every detail was placed in just the perfect spot, every character was given life. And it is a real shame that we may never get a continuation of this story. Even if it simply explained where some characters went, like how Omega Supreme was just dropped into the 4th dimension never to be seen again, I would still probably buy it. These games are fantastic and deserve more to their story. But that may never come. I wish it would, but it may not. I have these on Xbox 360, and i have completed them a few times. Each time I do, i find new little references to other transformers media that I didn't notice the first time. Even though i have all the upgrades for all the weapons and all the perks and gadgets, they are still some fun games. I wish they would conclude the story with atleast one more game, but they might not. At least we were blessed with the two games that showed that you can create a really good transformers game if you actually care about what is being made. Farewell War/Fall of Cybertron. You will be missed.
As much as I want that it’s not gonna happen. Activision has moved away from making games with licenses. And High Moon has been relegated to just helping make call of duty games since Deadpool. High moon has been nearly killed by them.
I enjoyed watching this ! So much new information ! Good job on all the research !
WFC and FoC were works of art and perhaps some of the best Transformers-related media available. Dark Spark was not the send-off that the series deserved.
Amazing video RBG! I can tell u put all your “spark” into this project. After watching this is just ordered the remastered version of The Fall of Cybertron!
but its not remasterd fun labs just ported it a terrible terrible port for pvp anyways
I WANT THIS REMASTERED ON SWITCH
Me too
same here,since there about to sell out for xbox and ps at walmart where i live
God imagine wfc on the go without screen tearing, a better framerate, better textures, etc.
Great documentary!
War for Cybertron’ co-op with my bro-in-law and. niece was one of my favorite gaming experiences ever. I was crushed when they pulled it from Fall of Cybertron, but welcomed the specific character abilities and level design.
This gave me feels
The Saints Archives ikr
Luke Skywalker the 2nd and what activion did trying to erase the games stings even more it was like a slap in the face
The Saints Archives It really did feel like that tbh. Curse Activison!!!
this video brought a tear to my eye , Woc and Foc where indeed my favorite TF games and one of my favorite continuities , its upsetting that the games have been pulled from the market places and that any used copies in the wild are going to be the only ways for others to enjoy these 2 great titles , or devastation which was decent brawler game . Activision be cursed for their handling of this IP and not making it so they could keep the catalog up to enjoy
FOC was my most favorite times playing a 3rd person multiplier game mode
I miss playing Fall of Cybertron. I used to be on a team, and play tournaments as an interceptor. I would spend countless hours playing deathmatch and ctf. Those really were the good days
There was a PS2 Transformers game just called "Transformers" and it was REALLY good. I always wonder why it doesn't get much love.
Transformers: The game. Yeah it was the best one and the one after that Transformers: Revenge of the fallen was one of the worst games I have ever played in my life and seems like a huge downgrade.
@@-neuro Before that, even, back in 2004. Three years before the first live action movie would even be released. Based on the Armada show/toy line. Optimus is voiced by Garry Chalk in the game I'm referring to.
I’m glad your video popped up into my feed as I enjoyed your retrospective on the cybertron games and their history. They were fantastic games! Thanks again for this great video!!!
Because they are too addicted to Destiny and COD
Last good COD game was Infinite Warfare. Destiny was never a good game to begin with; its original story and soundtrack scrapped to make a Halo MMO with barely any soul to it.
ehhh lat ggood cod with bo3 an yeah Destiny never appealed to me
Last good COD was BOII and MW3. Destiny on the other hand is an up and down slope, it’s both good and bad at the same time and it has wicked potential but don’t put all the blame on Bungie. Let’s not forget Activision is also at fault here, Destiny still has huge potential but it can only go all out if Activision stop being so money hungry and if Bungie decide to take more advice from their players. Which they are, Bungie finally started listening and fixed their game. They are trying, it still has so much more to go but atleast it’s a step in the right direction
BrownTaxi You liked MW3? that game was shitty to me tbh Black ops 2 was awesome
@@HolyknightVader999 Hey man, there's a thriving community of us Destiny fans still chugging. And the game's back to being good with Forsaken! (Good in terms of our definition. I.e. TTK days)
Whatching this in 2020. I wish someone could support the servers for this game
This one of the best informative videos I’ve watched in a long time.
Good vid. RIP High Moon studios, their cybertron games were great, shame
that they arent avaible on console stores / steam anymore.... ;/ EDIT:
High Moon studions still exists, but they are working on dlc for destiny
2 - fate worse than death ;)
I’m pretty sure FoC is on the Xbox store
TirecesIX I wouldnt say HMS would be gone forever. They might come back.
2007: Good and based of Tf1
2009: The best
WFC: Awesome
FOC: I like it more games like this
2011: average
2014: KILL IT WITH FIRE
JustoKing Kazma very accurate. ROTF had alright DLC as well
Atlas - DAMN RIGHT
What was 2009?
Transformers Armada game was cool
@@thatguy8152 it sure was I loved it
Finally someone who knows the comics are the pinnacle of the storytelling. Actually mature, actually not for kids, actually not shying away from violence, mental conditions, and way more. Thank you. Yes, Transformers have the potential to be great. James Roberts proved that with his comics. And his novel, Eugenesis!
Loved the video man! Great job
Awesome job on this. You hit the nail on the head with this!
Thanks fam. Glad you enjoyed it.
I’ve loved Transformers ever since I was a little kid, I watched the G1 show and I was hyped like crazy for the bay movies. I remember the day I had gotten WFC and when I had gotten FOC, looking back at those titles made me sad because now many games are turning out like ROTDS where they are a cash grab (Destiny 1 & 2) and its for one reason only. The devs, typically it’s EA and Activison but what can we do? It’s not like we have billions of dollars to make new games....
One thing that kept me coming back to play Fall of Cybertron is the OST
"The Great Exodus" is one of the best video game soundtrack i have ever listened to. And i listened to a lot of video game soundtracks
This was awesome. Good work man.
On the ratchet mission after he was done repairing I shot him with a rocket then he actually died like he does during the defense section but I didn't fail the mission and he kept talking to the group lol
So glad hasbro has split from activision now
I miss this game it really changed my life from going out and finding problem to get into to being a gamer truly missed 😥😢
I love the lil Easter egg at the end great video man
This is a fantastic, well put together and researched video. You've come a long way since I first subscribed years ago and damn dude you're killing it lately. Very professional brotha! Keep it up. You've made this trans-former fan and collector very happy!
Same
A damn shame we didn't get a continuing proper series. Thanks for making the vid!!
this brings back so many memories thank u for this vid
Great work, man!