Analysis of Bart Hanson's $11,500 Set over Set Hand (at $5/5!! No Limit Hold'em)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 มี.ค. 2020
- Bart Hanson analyzes his $11,500 set over set hand at a $5/$5 No Limit Hold'em table from a recent @TCHLiVEPoker stream.
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysgraphia figured I just once again "live misclicked" until I watched the video in review -- Bart
CrushlivePoker I almost always just ask for a count anyway in these big spots just to be sure. you should probably do this as well.
CrushlivePoker Also Bart I have to point out what I believe to be a flaw in your logic. You are playing against a pro and if a pro is going to raise his Ac5c and take a shot on the turn and then give up on most rivers he’s going to raise more than 1400 which isn’t even a 3X raise.
I think the right play is to go all in. He is getting 2 to 1 on a call. Let say his never folding set in this spot. You also think about combo draws your opponent can have. You want them to pay see the river card. You don't want to rely on them betting on the river. You also factor in a scared card can't kill your action. You want to be balance if you have combo draw you should be shoving hear as well.
Rinoxp Gaming I would fold every hand here to Bart including 77. he has no bluffs, he admitted that, and he is never shoving worse for value. that means bart only has QQ here when he shoves and would lose $3800 by shoving here and watching me fold 77. if he calls he can shove over my river bet and the price will be to good for me to fold a set then. The kid even admitted he made a mistake and never should’ve called and if you just would’ve thought a little longer I think he would’ve come to the right collusion and folded.
I appreciate Sensei Bart sharing the difficulties he overcomes to be a badass poker player. Makes me feel like maybe one day I could be an almost good player. Keep up the great work Bart!
Has your poker improved in the past 9 months
@@djStens I've only been watching CLP for the last couple weeks and my poker has improved immensely.
Been wanting to hear your analysis on this hand since I saw it play out on stream. I couldn’t put together why we jam turn here instead of flatting, but it makes sense with your explanation of misreading the stack depths. Solid stuff as always Bart
This makes sense now...When I first saw the hand my mind set was if I was Bart is how would I play this hand if I had AA or KK - and in that case I would call. Now knowing he didnt know his exact stack size explains why he jammed turn
Bart, thanks for sharing about your difficulty to reading chip color, I usually just give up and ask sometimes but I know that can be a tell lol
The way you perfectly sync up “I only run it once” is hilarious and reminded me of drunk history.
As a relative beginner, your analysis at the turn was very useful. Thanks!
Hey Bart, always putting out awesome videos and hand reviews. I'm in Vegas atm, gonna play some 1/2 nlh and plo today. Any suggestions?
Not sure about the PLO but there is 1/2NL basically at every card room in the city.
Bart..Joe McKeehen did shuffle his chips on the rail at the Wsop Main in 2015!!
Was that Kevin Maahs tank folding the 10-2?
Hey Bart. Great video. Was wondering what you were talking about with Matt right after you 3b him.
Even with this stack depth, Isn't there some value in denying equity to his combo draws and simultaneously getting value from a range that is very much weighted towards value? I think that if he has a big combo draw in this spot, he will not fire the river. ( especially when he blocks a lot of FD's) ; so I feel like if we are not going to induce bluffs on the river then we are just giving a free card to his draws when we won't make much when he misses.
I said the exact same thing in the video
You said that you would call looking back though after seeing the real stack depth , I’m saying I think shoving is still the best option ? for the same reasons you mentioned before
As the streets are going westlake is play with bigger chips on the rail *MEGA TELL that he has a good hand and wants to continue so jamming would be the best option??? Plus jamming evens out your draw jam range
I feel your pain Bart I feel like half the forms I fill out people aren't going to be able ro read my handwriting horrible too lol.
Are you ever bluffing when you 3bet jam the turn in position? When he will likely bet/jam river himself?
He’s not, he just thought that draws were getting decent pot odds to call it off. Matt had some chips in his hand so Bart miscounted the stack
@@spoder22 from the villains point of view, what bluffs does bart have there, when he is in position?
This video could be cut down to 15mins cuz you repeat and rephrase the same thing many times over.
15 minutes? How about 7 minutes?
wow.. that was tough
If this astonishes you then you must be a newb
really hard fold. not surprised he couldn't. lots of players can't fold 2nd nuts anywhere. bart could have some bluffs here (club draws, could turn AA/KK into a bluff), but only 3 combos of QQ.
Why would you ever turn the top of your range into a bluff? That makes no sense. What do you intend to fold out when bluffing with KK or AA? Turn your combo draws that don't have a lot of showdown value into bluffs, not your fucking overpairs 😂
Yeah aside from Bart making a live misread, this hand isn't that interesting.
It's set over set. He's never folding, the tank was unnecessary
I guess I live under a rock.
What about minraising the turn? Bart isn't even considering this option. It's the only way to get value off draws, since just calling gives them a free card and jamming pot makes them fold.
You might as well just turn your hand face up then on the turn and say 'it's gonna cost you a grand to chase'. And then what do you do if a club hits? The only worse option than min raising the turn would have been to fold.
I live under a rock
Don't be surprised if Matt Berkey wands everybody down before sitting in the game. "Fool me once....."
What?
You should have seen me win the poker, man - I had a honey and I bet a grand - just in the nick of time I looked at his hand.
How do you only have 44.7k subs?
No clue! Hes the best
It's your duty as a player to know your opponents stack.
Watched this hand live, felt bad for 77s , was happy for Bart
7s should checked raised and kicked someone out. He knew he has he best hand after the flop.
DAN Tu
You’re a professional. Good insight bro. Im sure that bart would easily fold his QQ to a check raise on the flop...😒
@@effortlessawareness8778 he is more likely to cause others fold to a check raise then just calling.
77s were losing either way. Only way for 77s to win is to force queens to fold.
So he should tried to force to the other players to fold when he has the best hand on the board.
It's set over set on a rainbow board, what analysis is there?
Your like a million bigs deep he is deffo opening dueces and 3s from plus 3 , obviously!
Ur a beast
who else watched at 1.5 x speed
Doug Polk accusing him of cheating in 3.. 2...
You run amazing
watched the hand live and dont know what to analyze there, its set over set. the only decision in this hand is calling or 3bet-allin on the turn.
Gucci Mane i think the 77 can fold there vs bart. i think bart missing those chips and shoving is only QQ unless i know he didn’t see my chips.
Miller Time honestly no jokes here. you saw how long he waited to call and the convo afterwards. bart is only shoving there with qq so you can fold everything else. this is an exploitative fold vs a player who plays an unbalanced exploitative style.
I think a set in this position should be defending and betting big. It was a mistake to check.
@@TheTree1 Is it even GTO to shove a bluff there as you have zero fold equity or you just shove for the sake of balance and not as a practical move
gerry o sullivan I completely agree this isn’t an Internet hand we are going to play about 7 million of them and everyone has your stats. I believe the balanced play here is the call with everything you’re not folding and you should have no Bluffs here. I think if Bart had known the stack sizes he would’ve just called which would be the right play.
You tried way too hard to explain your bad jam here, but luckily u got him with the coldest deck possible and it didn’t cost u
I’m color blind.
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Lol.. This seems more like a justification of his play than analysis
Easy to say from the cheap seats. When playing live, it's much harder than online to keep track of how many chips everyone has at the table, how much is in the pot, how much the guy has behind. All of the chips were going in, doesn't really matter.
@@CanadianLoveKnot I know how hard and easy it is to keep the track of the number of chips live. I m a professional player. And it's not the case that it doesn't matter. If it didn't, he wouldn't talk so much! I agree that everything was going in with these specific hands but there are differences.
When did running it more then once become a thing. I been playing a long time and I know 15 20 years ago it was never done. The last few years it's done so much. I personally don't run it more then once. It's called gambling for a reason. If I lose I lose and if I win I win. I don't want a chop or in some cases get quartered . The only time I run it twice is if we are doing a double board Omaha bomb pot at dealer changes but I even try to get them to do single board bomb pots but majority usually wins and we end up with double boards. I just don't understand why people like it so much stacking a opponent could change the whole outcome of a session and to chop a pot seems like a waste of everyone's time especially if it's a hand where 2 or more players really have to tank
it also is a little unfair to those that have folded because the decision to run it once or twice is only made after the folded players have folded. Thus there can be an element of collusion
Kind of easy to win when you're the next Mike Postle
Yeah, nice self like of your comment "frank'
unintentional angle, easy to fold a set against bart
I only lose to one hand. Are willing to run it twice?
Bart looks down at the nuts. No I only run it once.
It makes no difference to the EV in the hand how many times you run it. Most of the time I run it once it has nothing to do with if I am ahead or behind. But if I did chose to run it only once when I was ahead and twice when I was behind it still makes NO difference.
@@CrushlivePoker all good. Just ball busting!
@@CrushlivePoker i see you say thisnall the time. How does it not make any difference? That literally makes 0 sense. 5K pot i have flush draw with 1 card to come and i miss on the 1st and hit on the 2nd and never choose to ever run it twice again in my life how the hell are you going to say it makes no difference lmao? It makes a 2500$ difference.
@@williamzagarella8066 your equity in the pot does not change no matter how many times you run the river. If you have a flush draw with one card to come in a $1000 pot your equity is 20% and EV is $200. If you run it once your EV is $200, if you run it 4 times your EV is $200. The only thing that running it multiple times does is bring the overall result closer to the EV. When you run it once there are two outcomes- $1000 or $0. If you run it four times each pot is split into $250 pots. So if you win one and lose 3 times you end up with $250. Or if you win two and lose two you end up with $500 and so on and so on. If you run it 4 times with 20% equity the most likely result is that you will win 1/4 resulting in $250 which brings the overall result closer to your actual EV in the hand.
the EV is very close but not exactly the same. if u run it once it’s 1/44 (which is 2.27%) to hit the last 7. if you run it twice it’s ((1/44+1/43) / 2) (which is 2.25%)
Not really a hard hand to play. The hand plays itself.
geez could you drag this hand out anymore??
watch at 2x speed
It’s a hand analysis what do u expect🤨
I watch pretty much every poker video at 1.75x or 2x speed
He wasn't pulling a Torelli, looks completely unintentional
Please stop with the Donk Polker bully rhetoric.
Wow - I hate this creep - I wouldn't give him a dime and I'm going to sue Google to get back the nickel in royalties from my last five comments.
This guy's reminiscence stories are so boring, they remind me of listening to my great grandfather telling me his made-up stories about what he did in WWII.
Bart. This is not meant as a dig. You are a very good explainer of situations, however you tend to "over explain". It took you 5 minutes to explain how disgraphia and deep tables and chip shuffling affected your reading of villain's stack size. It could have ben done in 60 seconds. Good video.
The kid had like $1500 in chips in his hand far off the table? I'm sure he didn't mean to angle but the dealer needs to tell him he can't do that. Super bad etiquette and prob against the rules also.
How is this a 30 minute video? It’s not even an educational hand. Bart glorifying a big cooler that he won. Nice, you got lucky. 10 minutes max.
Unless you are living under a rock you have already heard about the hand? Why make the video at all then.
He may write like a four-year old but he speaks like a two-year old Alzheimer's patient.
This kids a pro and since he didn’t know Bart didn’t know how much was in a stack that’s a fold he has to make. bart Has told us all for a decade he is unbalanced and in the spot it’s only Queens.
It's bad to not have a calling range, when people see your hands.
acehole
Against Bart this is a crying fold crying because you have a set and its hard to fold a set but yeah hes not jamming with any draws or just a Queen, even with stack size. bart is super unbalanced. Its so hard to fold a set But id fold 77 here against bart after listening to all his hand reviews and how he thinks through hands. That kid shudve listened to barts channel and it wouldve made it easier for him to fold. OH WELL, Lets get on with it Next hand.
Even knowing that Bart is unbalanced towards value, how will you fold 7's in this spot, but typically suggest "snap call" in almost every other hand he discusses on this channel? Do you think Bart is closer to being balanced than those players? Or do the other players have that spaz factor that Bart probably doesn't have making them closer to balanced than he is? Just surprised to see you say fold!
JamBasket Poker The difference between Bart and those other players is I’ve been listening to Bart’s thought process for a decade now. I know Bart is not bluffing here he has zero Bluffs and he’s never shoving worse here for value he has told me this and I have listened. That means the only hand shoves here is pocket queens so you can correctly fold everything exploitatively. no you are right I am really never for folding the top of your range where is a good player but the circumstances in his hand make it a perfect storm to do so.
1. Too tight solid pros and one fun player In a multi way three bet part.
2. BART betting into two players including the fun player.
3. The tight solid pro three betting the other tight solid pro who just bet in to two players again with one of them being a fun player.
he should fold 7’s here.