(ENG SUB) MIN HEEJIN Press Conference 24.04.25 - Accurate Manually Done Subs + Text Translations
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2nd Press con will also be translated and posted here.
Hey guys, please keep it civil in the comments. Please no personal insults or generalisations of entire fandoms or countries. You are free to speak without censorship but please keep things on the topic of MHJ, ADOR and HYBE.
(fyi TH-cam automatically takes down comments for review that are potentially inappropriate, I have removed this setting to make sure people don't misunderstand and think "their opinions are being silenced", so please for the love of god keep things civil. EDIT: automatic comment moderation is back on due to some disgusting comments jesus)
Sorry but I don’t have time to moderate this comment section all the time and I genuinely didn’t know a conflict could break out in the comments because I don’t browse Twitter, and only see stuff from people I follow. It would have been nice if someone gave me a heads up about it so I could place a message like this in the first place. Not sure how much this message would have helped anyway but sorry to those who’ve already been insulted or felt degraded.
Wherever you’re from we’re all just fans of our artists who we love, so I hope we can find common ground in that. 🫂
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Some people are saying the video is biased because of the channel it came from, but if you look at the public track record of this channel and whenever it's spoken about this issue, we've always reiterated that we side with the girls only. For the longest time this channel has just sat quiet and subbed Phoning lives and avoided drama like the plague. If you don't want to believe that we tried to make this as unbiased as possible, then I can't stop anyone from thinking that way. Trust me, I know how bad it would look for Bunnies if we put out a video that was purposefully manipulated and biased for one side. What is there to gain from that? We discredit ourselves, paint Bunnies as unreliable, biased and brainwashed translators/fans, and in return, we get a handful more people that are a little more sympathetic towards MHJ? There are plenty of lines that could have been easily manipulated but we didn't. I would never let that happen because it reflects badly on us, Bunnies and by extension NewJeans too (even when it shouldn't). K-netz (that are not kpop fans) are saying this is a reliable translation, believe what you will.
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Special thanks to C-Bunnies! This wasn't possible without them. So many of them worked together to help translate their sub file for me. Also ty to everyone who helped review!
(Edit: to clarify, Chinese fans had already translated this into their language, we took this sub file, translated it over to English, then went through to edit that file. This helped because all the timings were perfect, and some of the short/simple phrases were correct, but 95% of this had to be reworded completely by korean natives and people who are korean that were raised overseas)
This press conference was reviewed by so many people I lost track. 10+ worked on making sure this is 100% accurate and without bias. As for where I stand (because I assume some people might find that relevant information), I stand with the NewJeans girls, and them ONLY. This was only done because it was at the request of our viewers.
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Thank you for this.
Thank you🫶
Thank you to everyone who worked on it! As a former fan subber, it really takes a whole team for something 2+ hours!
Thank you for all of your hard work ❤
wow. nice work.
몇몇 사람들이 이 기자 회견 내용을 날조해서 해외 팬덤이 민희진에게 잘못된 인식을 갖게 만드는데 일조한 것으로 알고 있다.
이 번역으로 해외 팬들도 제대로 된 실상을 알아야한다.
하이브 편에 서는 것이 결코 BTS의 편에 서는 것이 아님을 알아야할 때가 되었다.
@@argiexpatThanks
That's right. Actually, HYBE doesn't treat BTS very well either.The activities of BTS members are not well publicized and their rights are not well protected.And HYBE tries to provoke ARMYs to attack minheejin and NEWJEANS.Actually, we're not in opposition.😢
@@Genenxxxu r so considerate.
The international fandom doesn't care about facts and it has nothing to do with translations, they hate newjeans bc they surpassed their favorite idols in sales streams and critical acclaim so they need to destroy newjeans by any means necessary. They are rallying against her because they believe MHJ is crucial to newjeans success and only by getting rid of her newjeans content quality will deteriorate so much that they'll finally fail
From the very beginning of the conflict, everything was obvious, people who side with HYBE are simply crazy fools. I hope she wins this battle, there are some foreigners supporting her and the group
I bet you all them Tiktok, reddit and kpop translation site stans and fans wouldn't watch this video because it would utterly collapse their worldview and be in shambles 😂
is this even posted on reddit? i feel like mods won't let it be posted
@TheHothotheatlive even if it was posted on reddit, the post would be down voted to hell & removed 💀
Exactly they will keep on spreading their own narratives
Lol they're in the comments telling they're not interested in this cat fight. As expected of them.
What I've learned is that kpop subreddits are an echo chamber of filth. It doesn't matter what you say, even if it's true, if it goes against what the majority think, it'll be down voted to oblivion and people will personally attack you for it.
It really is scary to see the way people respond to short clips and bits and pieces of information cut from a 2-hr long conference and made their own interpretations. A psycholgogical war blew out of proportion, pinning the bystanders against each other... Hopefully more people watch this translatation and understand the full context. Kudos to tikkitokki team and the C-Bunnies!
This is actually a huge problem with international kpop fans and short fake outrage clips. Negative stories or narratives get more views and no one seems to care about sources.
Chinese bunny here would like to thank you for your appreciation! We watched it a bit earlier than rest of the international fans and have been really struggling fighting against those irresponsible comments under various video posts on TH-cam. Now the Eng sub is finally out so we could just leave the truth speaks.
This is the all time legend in the history of Korean entertainment industry.
Finally u guys realized😭😭
I thought nothing could beat the Burning Sun scandal but here we are with Min Hee Jin
Koreans don't seem to have a lot of celebrities who speak up and their workplace culture must mostly be shit considering they think this is some new wave shit. Like I've seen korean comments calling her an "office worker" standing up to big corporation, when she has millions and in ceo position
Nahhh the legend was burning sun scandal, this is nothing compare to it
@@koharu8066 I think we talk about someone brings greatness to the industry, not shameless
한국 기자들이 2008년 나훈아 기자회견 이후 최고의 기자회견으로 이 기자회견을 꼽았다. 만약 민희진이 자신에게 씌워진 배임 누명을 반박하지 못했다면 이런 평가는 불가능했을 것이다. 실제로 기자회견이 끝난 후 법조인들은 sns에 민희진의 배임 혐의는 성립하지 않는다는 의견을 잇달아 업로드했다. 한국 연예계에 전설로 남을 기자회견이니 누구를 막론하고 한국 연예계에 관심이 있다면 꼭 전체를 시청해야 함.
I've witnessed foreigners not only fabricating, but also creating an entirely different story from the truth. And I can't understand why there are people who live like that. 'They don't even need the truth, they just need an excuse to trample on someone.' This is the complete translation, and I affirm that there is absolutely no cutting or twisting here. I hope non-fans and those who want to know the truth will watch this entire video.
Yeah it's literally army and a few other fandoms and company stans pushing the lies internationally. At the end of the day, the Korean public is the most important so expect that company to really begin trying to ruin njs and mhjs reputation
It's terrible channels like the seoulite. Korean American monetizing outrage and negativity, trying to be an authority figure. So many people used his videos as a reference when trying to insult other korean American youtubers that sort of sided with MHJ.
They were also cursing, gossiping and spreading nasty speculations with 0 proof
@@insomnia5050Fr that guy is such a weirdo and he keeps uploading about the whole Hybe and Ador thing and relating it back to BTS
This is why I believe in karma.
👍Speaking in front of camera publicly is much better than spreading rumors behind the camera.
This is a legendary press conference. There are some videos surfacing TH-cam showing how Min eneded up leaving the hall with her hand full of business cards because so many reporters (who were somewhat acting hostile at first) became total fans and wanted to give her their business cards afterwards. Not only she captivated reporters, but Korean hip hop fans also affectionately made memes about how she is the real K-hip hop, while regular office workers like myself could deeply resonated with her experience as they too experienced sth similar. She is GOAT
The reporters were awful to her at the beginning I could feel her stress. I bet those that witch hunt her at first feel embarrassed now, she is a strong inspirational human ❤
It must have been very hard for MHJ to come out and do this press conference. To be honest I think people underestimate her, she really is a genius and I look up to her creative skill and bravery.
me too, she is legitimately an artistic genius in the realm of kpop. a once in a generation talent.
This is the best comment space@@moonsigil
she used to be creative, now she just takes from underground western artists and movements and peddles it to mainstream South Korea to seem original.
Yeah bruh. Cookie was was crossing the line and she didn't care.
@@xrrgrthis
in summary basically;
- mhj never claimed bts copied her work, and hybe changed the wordings of the article to "they SUSPECT mhj made the claim.." to avoid the lawsuit
- mhj never "cursed" bts with her shaman friend (she also said if these practices were authentic, everyone would be seeking out shamans to get exempted from military)
- she only mentioned the nwjns members’ reaction AFTER the reporter asked her the question abt how are the girls doing during this situation (by the end if conference during Q/A segment)
- the comment abt minji being pretty before was taken out of context and its quite common amongst koreans saying it to their children/ whom they see as children
- all the groups she mentioned (le sserafim, illit and bts) were in respinse to hybe first mentioning them in the articles and their mediaplay
- only one of the newjeans' parents was mentioned and that too was when they let mhj know abt false rumors circulating abt source suffering from trainee debt
the 4th point was new for me, damn, i just knew that is a normal thing in their culture. i thought before that mhj just make a blunder 😅
The thing is bts concepts did rip off big bang and shinee and exo etc and that was a huuge topic in kpop fandom way back in 2015-2016. It was never hate towards the members! It happens a lot in kpop just that big hit did it very aggressively with bts.
I know this is a taboo topic to talk about, but it's really a critical issue along with sajaegi. They're both things that ruin kpop for everyone
@@JoeirnjiIn korea, A naturally beautiful appearance is included in talent. So mhj was saying that mj was naturally talented. Whether people from other cultures think her way to talk is right or not, anyway this is Korean culture.
I highly agree with the first point. As an international fan, I had never been on Hype's side from the very beginning, but not on Mhj's side either. However, after her press conference, I realized Hype media play always vaguely worded. They used the "blah blah blah, or so I HEARD" formula. Where did they get that information from exactly?
@@HoaNguyen-kk2fb No offense but why wouldn't you be on mhjs side? She literally didn't do anything while hybe released a million articles without substantiation. And when they started clearing off all their rumours/scandals about soumu trainees and gfriend and debt and employees like big bad hybe had their hands tied behind their back by *mhj*? 😭 Like it very obviously had nothing to do with breach of trust when nj were literally benched for 10 months not even 2 years into their career. How can you think the company that releases other people's dating scandals on dispatch are somehow pussicats? I really can't understand equating these two and I've disliked mhj so much I didn't stream nj until bubble prerelease. More and more I think people love and defend bullies whether in politics or entertainment
기자회견 풀버전 번역이라니...제발 외국인들 많이 좀 봤으면 좋겠네. 한국인들이 왜 기자회견 후 민희진 편 됐는지 꼭 알아줬음 한다. 심지어 이거 보고 나는 뉴진스 팬됐다고!!!
ㅇㅈ.. 이거 번역도 번역인데 자막 넣는 것도 시간 진짜 오래 걸리는데 respect... 너무 감사드리네ㅠㅠ
저두요
I need korean fans and the general public to understand that westerners get into kpop not for the love of music but bc it allows them the space to be abusive and psychopathic in mass, they will say things they don't truly believe simply because they have an agenda and their agenda is to destroy newjeans bc they can't accept the fact that newjeans surpassed their favorite idols in every measurable way from stream numbers to being critically acclaimed by music experts everywhere so they will not stop attempting to destroy newjeans by any means necessary including slandering MHJ bc they see her as someone crucial to their success. They believe that the only way they can get rid of newjeans is if the quality of their work and music declines so they need to eliminate MHJ to achieve it.
It has nothing to do with evidence common sense or mistranslations.
저도 뉴진스 팬 됐어요 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
이런 감성기자회견에 넘어간거보니 하이브가 더더욱 이기길 바랍니다 당연하게 본보기 삼아야함 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
이 기자회견을 보고 뉴진스가 더 좋아졌어요. 창작자의 사랑을 가득 받은 그룹이구나 싶었습니다. 외국인 케이팝 팬들도 많이 보셨으면 좋겠어요. 왜 한국 여론이 뒤바뀌었는지 알 수 있을 거에요.
as an international bunny I want to apologise to you, korean fans and korean citizens, for the amount of hate you always get. It's sad and disrespectful. Comments like "K-netz are stupid" "What do you expect from koreans?" are really beyond anything I could imagine. It's your country, your culture, your industry, your society, we don't understand all the elements that have an influence in this situation. People are even calling koreans stupid for siding with Min Hee Jin when YOU GUYS are the ones who really understand the language, the meaning, and everything I mentioned earlier.
I'm so sorry, please know that not all westerners are this disrespectful, ignorant and racist.
Here is a background explanation related to Korean culture. It is directly related to the reason why Min Hee-jin had to become independent of the label on New Jeans' debut. Korean labels do not release rookies in order to focus on rookies for as little as three years and as long as seven years.
Therefore, if Min Hee-jin had not established a label and quickly became independent, New Jeans would have to wait for their debut without knowing the time of at least three to four years. Unlike Hybe' first promise, it was even more scary in the Korean entertainment business because there were so many cases where they were canceled while waiting for their debut and were kicked out as adults and ended up in an unknown state.
Under the circumstances, Min risked the loss to keep his promise with New Jeans as quickly as possible, and as a result, he signed an unfair contract with Hybe as he tried to debut with New Jeans as quickly as possible. And while revising the clause, he was witch-hunted and moved to this position.
Until just before this, there was a lot of public opinion that Min Hee-jin was a sinner of breach of trust who was blinded by money. Until now, however, Hybe has even said that there is no evidence of breach of trust, and that breach of trust is no longer a problem. Like there was no breach of trust.
You may not know what you think of Min, but at least Min Hee-jin, unlike Hybe, has risked the loss to keep his trust with New Jeans, which is why New Jeans trusts Min more.
exactly
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
아 진짜 너무 다행이다 누가 이렇게 정성스럽게 2시간짜리 영상을 번역본으로😭😭😭
와 완벽하게 이해하고 요약하셨네요.
Unfair contract lmao hybe is the owner of ador and the reason the company eas established wtf are you talking about
지금도 하이브는 뉴진스를 방해하고 있다 앨범발표 전날 뉴진스의 스타일리스트집 앞에 찾아가서 협박하고 잡음을 일으킴
진심 하이브 개쓰키
As a creative person myself who works for a company but also has personal projects I can understand where Min Heejin's words come from 100%. She had a vision, she was promised she could fulfilled this vision and after she got hired and he name was used to promote the company's new groups, she was sabotaged. That is what I've gathered from this whole situation. I also don't doubt that she could be trying to hold onto what she has been working on since it seems to be a project she holds dearly (NEW JEANS) maybe that is why she could be trying to break from HYBE (if this is the truth) but if she wasn't and was just trying to push forward regardless of a very negative situation then I'm not surprised. This happens to us creative people working in big corporations all the time. This is why I'm weary of pitching my own IP ideas to the companies I've worked for before. The bigger the company the greedier and shadier their executives are.
I consider myself pretty neutral in this case since I'm not a fan of New Jeans or other group under HYBE, although I like some BTS songs. However I do love the work Min Heejin did with f(x) specially since it was superb and ahead of its time. Just stating my bias here before I get any response.
I'm also a creative person myself and a workaholic, so I do understand MHJ as well.
You hit the nail on the head. People have NO IDEA how corporations work. Some people here saying that BSH could never solely be at fault because “he’s got no time to make all the decisions himself”… yes and no. Like obviously, he ain’t making very single decision himself, but he’s the one giving out budgets and setting sales targets for the subsidies and their groups which means that he is the one all employees answer to. So, even if you’re “only” a Head of Marketing in one of the subsidies, let me tell y’all that you’ll be doing everything you can to hit your sales target and stay on the management’s good side. Hitting your sales targets and being quiet translates to you keeping your job in this world… you’re on your own and you definitely shouldn’t be questioning if what you’re doing is morally correct and if there’s an alternative route of reaching your financial targets cause a) you know that some of the stuff happening isn’t ethical and b) there is no alternative route, but walking over dead bodies… “collateral damage” is what we call people like her and it makes me mad when people don’t understand that the executive board, yes, is ALWAYS at fault if stuff like that happens!
PINK Tape is ahead of its time honestly ❤❤❤
People need to hear your comments...
I'm only at the beginning and I'm so annoyed. I am a journalist (in the U.S.) and it's customary to not allow photos to be taken during a press conference or to restrict photos to only the first 10 minutes because it *is* disruptive. These photographers are entitled brats, lol
Yes that's why Korean call them as '기레기'= 기자+쓰레기= journalist+trash. I'm sorry for saying like this to you who is having the job, but the level of Korean journalist is too low.
The funny thing is that journalist were kinda aggressive at first time, but they became moved by the truth at the end of the press and as soon as the it ended all of them were busy to give their cards to MHJ.
OMG MV is about defying the cult called ‘Dahn World.’ So Shin Woo-suk made the MV and told anonymous people that he received daily life-threatening threats via Instagram DMs.
O🐰M🐰G✨ M🙈V is about defying the cult called ‘Dahn World.’ So Shin Woo-suk made the MV and told anonymous people that he received daily life-threatening threats via Instagram DMs.
@@Dadadu499 what are YOU talking about? They definitely took photos longer than just 2 minutes. They start leaving at 8:04 and up until to that point they took photos almost constantly. Also at first the photographers didn’t say they need more time to take photos, they intended to take photos the whole time and blamed mhj for “hating” the sound of the cameras. They only left after they were basically forced to.
@@mimi_imfat in your comment you said it’s customary to take all the photos in the first 10 min and so by your timestamp they are still perfectly in the norm.
No one said that they wanted to take photos the whole time, this is your assumption, what they did say is that they needed a photo where she faced them/greeted them, and then left w/o anyone telling them so no they weren’t kicked out…
Honestly I don’t see how they acted different than what they normally do with idols, like when a idol goes to an event they photograph pretty much like this..
저 기자회견 직전 3일동안, 민대표의 배임관련해서 압도적인 량의 기사들이 쏟아졌습니다. 감사를 시작하자마자 보도되기 시작한 언론플레이였습니다.
3일 만에 뉴진스와 그 부모님들까지 입장을 밝히라는 보도가 나오자, 민희진 대표가 저 자리에서 기자회견을 한 것 입니다.
15일이 지난 지금 민희진 대표가 한 말들이 신뢰를 얻었고, 뉴진스를 향한 그 진정성이 빛을 발하고 있습니다.
많은 한국인들이 민희진 대표와 뉴진스가 계속 함께 활동하기를 바라고 있습니다.
Had HYBE truly considered what was best for NJ, they would have resolved the conflict internally instead of taking it to the media just four days before NJ's Bubble Gum MV. Did they genuinely believe that publicly denigrating MHJ, who is the heart and soul of NJ's success, wouldn't harm NJ in the long run?
It's hard to believe they could be this foolish. In other words, they must have intended to do this. They no longer consider NJ as one of their top assets since they have another new beloved daughter. They even risked the stock price just to pressure MHJ to resign as soon as possible.
Yes it is 👏 whoa 이제야 속이 풀리네
They never wanted nj to be successful and hate them even more for being successful. What they're doing now to fromis9, permanently on hiatus, is what they did to nj in the last 9 months and what they did to gfriend. Shelving them. Like with gfriend where they ruined their reputation with an inappropriate concept, they'll ruin nj and f9's reputations too. What they did to gfriend was to make room for lsf and I'm guessing pledis wants a new gg in a few years. And illt is njs replacement. And they know army and hybe company stans don't care who the members are as long as they're hybe💜
And here I thought YG and SM dungeons were the worst.
"you bastards if you have something to say, say it to my face!"
this real hiphop!👊🏽
minijeans is my newjeans bias wrecker🫰🏽😌
bro hhahaha your comment is LIT, she is the real bia wrecker
Kendrick Lamars level🔥🔥🔥
@@argiexpatlol the way she doesn't hold back with her swearing and her sincerity showing her emotions had me bias wrecked hard! now that's real hiphop dropping bars and hard facts against those miserable misogynistic old men in that evil cult company!🫰🏽😌
@@-NWJNS- now you are bias wrecking the heck out of me with your comments lol
i agree 100%
this is probably the cringiest thing i have ever read in my entire life
여기 댓중에 민희진이 징징댄다고 뭐라고 하는 인간들은 자기들이 똑같은 상황에 처했을때 얼마나 의연하게 대처할지 너무 궁금함😂 꼭 영상으로 찍어서 올려줬으면
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In fact, it is a joke that parents in Korea often use to their grown up children.
"You were so cute when you were young"
Even more mischievous parents would say,
"Why are you less cute now than you were when you were young?"
Many Koreans heard this and thought,
"Wow MHJ thinks of Minji like a daughter than we expected"
In fact, MHJ conducted the press conference relatively calmly, but only when he talked about NewJeans, he showed an emotional side.
Thank you for the clearification. Someone posted a translation on twitter out of context right after when the press conference came out and it caused a lot of concern among us international fans causing misinformation on that quote.
This really has to be way higher since a lot of people took issue in the literal translation of the sentence, without the cultural context
@@Sheepymcsheepy i saw so many tiktok and viral tweets of her saying minji isn't pretty.. is incredible how misinformation spread and people choose to believe it even if you correct them
it's scary how a giant conglomerate can sway public opinions into hating one person through manipulating mediaplay a classic example of how mass brainwashing is done by a cult media/entertainment wing.
it's scary how a giant conglomerate can sway public opinions into hating one person by manipulating mediaplay. this is how mass brainwashing is done by an evil cult media/entertainment wing.
Wow. My mind has been changed completely. Min Heejin, I support you.
If HYBE really had a solid evidence, they wouldn't cut the KaTalk snippets and use it for the press manipulation.
First they said MHJ is trying to take the company, and once all the KR lawyers say 'it doesn't work that way and there is no evidence for it', they change the story to embezzlement.
MHJ has been constant with her claim since the beginning. She doen't blame it on the other idols. She blames Gaejeossi(scumbags) directly.
HYBE claimed that they work for NJ's interest but now that NJ is releasing the new album and schedules, MHJ keeps uploading and promoting them while HYBE is trying to taint her and NJ through press.
HYBE first started attacking MHJ before 'How Sweet' pre-order
HYBE accusing MHJ as 'embezzlement (not takeover)' before 'Supernatural' pre-order.
Even just by looking at this TL, it's clear who really cares about NJ.
Personally, I wasn't that interested in NJ before, but after I watched this press conference, I started collecting NJ album and merchs. I hope NJ and MHJ could get through this shit together and be happy.
And THANK YOU SO MUCH for the translation!!!
true, some of us aren’t stupid bc wdym hybe has been changing claim every 3 days?? from breach of trust to power trip to embezzlement like be constant please?? they failed to provide the proof and no one believes their shit anymore
That's exactly why I support MHJ. This press conference certainly feels emotional and unsystematic, and indeed, there was a lot of mockery and criticism against MHJ during the live press conference. But by the end of the conference, people were starting to understand the nature of what she was trying to say, and some of them were supporting her, some of them withholding judgment. Because they understand MHJ's point, but the public can't tell right now if it's true. And they've been waiting for Hive's response. Indeed, Hive has had a number of responses, and now the majority of the public is supporting MHJ. Yes, that's all.
(Please understand that I'm not good at english!)
@@gwi-bq3sp yes, and when exactly did bsh or park jiwon ever show their face amid all this? Never. Fkn COWARDS
19:57 "bts copied my work" was a false statement and in order to avoid defamation suit, hybe changed the wordings to "we SUSPECT mhj claimed bts copied her work"
@W8fjjf그니까!!!!!!! 그게 제일 중요한 얘긴데 그 얘기 쏙 빼고 비티에스 이용한다 ㅇㅈㄹ ㅅㅂㅋㅋ 누가 비티에스를 지금 이용하고 있죠??
this is sooo important and armys keep on spreading it sadly even when they are corrected
The only one to drag BTS into the conversation is Hybe itself. MHJ only mentioned BTS in defense of her being buried in Hybe's media play for 3 days
@Sheepymcsheepy ikrrrr we're so thankful to u guys, cuz u know "hate comments" really kill human. As u know many celebrities committed suicide because of that. I mean Korean celebrities. She is not even a celebrity but got amounts of hatred. It made us so sad and angry.
@@Sheepymcsheepy .
It was crazy seeing how people slandered Koreans for siding with Min Heejin, even though they couldn't understand a single sentence of Korean
THIS
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This! Internasional pigs really believing everything online even though it mistranslated and hoax, when real korean people who understand the contexts know everything! 😂
mass brainwashing of mindless hybe zombies by an evil cult company
when u didnt understand the ‘nuance’ of things, u can avoid getting emotions muddying the water. people are so easily persuaded with tears and distress of a lone woman. just look at the money flow, the detailed documents, and u’ll get your facts 🤷🏼♀️ all of this has nothing to do about any groups.
케이팝을 좋아하는 해외팬이면 제발 영상 끝까지 보고 판단하자.. 한국 게임업계 망쳐놓은 경영인들이 지금 케이팝 산업까지 무너뜨리는 중이니까
Finally, the full accurate sub for THIS conference
외국인들아 이상한 루머 믿지말고 이걸 봐라 기자회견 열리자마자 한국 여론이 뒤집힌 이유다
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as an international bunny I want to apologise to you, korean fans and korean citizens, for the amount of hate you always get. It's sad and disrespectful. Comments like "K-netz are stupid" "What do you expect from koreans?" are really beyond anything I could imagine. It's your country, your culture, your industry, your society, we don't understand all the elements that have an influence in this situation. People are even calling koreans stupid for siding with Min Hee Jin when YOU GUYS are the ones who really understand the language, the meaning, and everything I mentioned earlier.
I'm so sorry, please know that not all westerners are this disrespectful, ignorant and racist.
한국인들이 보기에는 외국팬들이 한국문화를 대하는 자세가 너무나 못배운사람들 행동같음 그도 그럴것이 한국 기초교육 수준은 매우 높고 남미나 아프리카쪽과는 비교조차 안됨 그런 나라의 국민들이 한국인들을 멍청하다고 욕하는거 자체가 말도안되는일임
@@user-lk6kl5ru1h 여론전에 당한 대중들일 뿐이지… 교육수준 꺼낼 일이 아님 이제라도 잘못 알았다고 사과하고 관심 가져주는 해외팬들 많은 댓글창에서 굳이 갈라치기를 또 해야겠음?
@@user-es7mn9xy6f 틀린말도 아닌데 갈라치기 운운하노 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
With NewJeans' unprecedented success, people all thought they were Hybe's princesses. Turns out, they were Cinderella all along. NewJeans and MHJ fighting!
Agree with u,Instead of princess my poor girls is Cinderella (same as Global audition 2019 theme). Support MHJ & NewJeans 💙
cinderellas are the trainees that end up having to pay debt to the company, they are still princesses
@@kichou723nope. Cinderellas are the ones who have been wronged
Cinderellas don’t have views of the Han river from their bedroom.
@@Windprinceinfiresman That was after a successful year where they made lots of money after all their hardwork. They deserved it
You'll find out why the public stood by her after the press conference. Please watch it.
이게 진짜다 외국인들아 제발 조작된 가짜 소문 믿지말라고
@@argiexpat❤
@@argiexpat 🐰 ❤️
As a Korean who can speak Eng, This translation is super awesome. I hope many foreigners watch this video, and understand the truth of ADOR HYBE friction.
I Fans are sheep
Unfortunately not…Many international fans are still misinformed in twitter (x), insta, and especially reddit. I link this video there and my comment always gets downvoted. Nobody knows there is an accurate, non-biased translation of the conference.
It seems that they live to hate. Once they set a target, they stay adamant.
@@K-Blubberopfr. Hating on MHJ without knowing the full story? Laughable.
LOUDERRR
이 기자회견 이후 바로 하이브가 영어 알바를 유튭에 대량으로 풀어서 그런지 거짓말하는 영어댓글이 정말 많았음. 아니라고 해도 듣질 않고 무조건 민희진이 잘못된거다라고 주장함. 그래서 너 한국어 알아듣냐고 물었는데 대답없다가 집요하게 한국어 알아듣냐고 물어보니까 모르지만 무조건 민희진이 잘못된거다라는 허무맹랑한 소리만 반복함. 이 영상으로 많은 사람의 오해가 제발 해소 되길...정말 지치고 힘든 시간들...
슬픈건, 걔네들은 돈도 안받아요.. 알바가 아니라 걍 세뇌당한 애들이에요
저는 몇번 대화를 시도해봤는데, 대부분은 초딩들이랑 대화하는 느낌이었어요...초딩 외국 아미들같아서 걍 몇번 설득해보려다가 현타와요
I’ve gotten all my information from English speaking sources which has largely been anti Min Hee Jin. I thought she is avoiding the real criminal accusations and distracting the public with red herrings.
I don’t have time to watch this whole video right now, I want to later, but it’s interesting reading the Korean comments. According to one comment, the order of events is different than what I had heard. Like I thought Min Hee Jin first demanded to be given an independent label and after that she was told Le serrafim would debut first cause Source music was in debt. But a comment said this occurred in reverse order: she was told Le serrafim would debut before asking for Ador.
But also news that has come out since this conference makes her seem less credible to me. Albeit, I heard the news from English sources
@@illililiili8752 They are indeed elementary Armys. I'm sorry though on behalf of i-fans who are too young to comprehend such a complex adult situation.
@@marie3155
요약:
하이브는
민희진에게 불공정 계약(5%의 주식은 일정기간 팔 수 없으며,주식을 가지고 있는 동안 다른 곳에서 일하거나 창업할 수 없음.)을 하고
민희진의 컴퓨터와 뉴진스 데이터를 빼앗아
카피 아이돌 아일릿을 만든 후
민희진을 고발한 상황이다.
뉴진스의 계약도 계약대로 이루어지지 않았으며 책임을 민희진에게 떠넘기고
다년간 뉴진스를 하이브 대표가 직접 무시하고 따돌린 것이 들켰다.
1.민희진과 뉴진스에게
뉴진스는 하이브 최초의 걸그룹이다.
1번째로 데뷔하는 걸그룹이라며 계약하였다.
2.그러나 르세라핌을 먼저 데뷔시켰으며
르세라핌이 민희진이 만들었다며 대중을 속였다.
그리고 뉴진스의 홍보도 전혀 하지않았다.
실제로 뉴진스는 홍보할 방법이 없어
다른 아이돌과는 다르게
이례적으로 모델,광고로 더 먼저 알려졌다.
3.민희진은 뉴진스를 성공시켰고
다 같이 뉴진스의 성공을 축하하는자리에 하이브의 대표만 불참하였다.
4.뉴진스가 성공하자 민희진은
하이브 대표로부터
"기분 좋냐? "라는 이상한 내용의 메세지를 받았다.
5.하이브는 민희진에게 주식 지분을 주고
계약내용을 비밀로 하였으며,
그 내용은 주식을 매각할 수 없으며
민희진은 주식을 가지고 있는 동안 다른 곳에서 일할 수 없다는 내용이다.
6.갑작스럽게 민희진이 회사를 뺏으려고 한다며
하이브에서 기자회견과 분쟁을 일으켰고
민희진이 주식을 매각할 수 밖에 없는 상황을 만들어
그제서야 민희진은 자신이 함정에 빠졌다는 것을 알게되었다.
7.하이브는 민희진의 컴퓨터를 빼앗고 뉴진스를 카피하여
앨범,폰트,상징,코디,화장 등
거의 뉴진스의 모든 것을 카피한 아이돌 아일릿을 만들어
뉴진스를 완전히 없애버리려 하고있다.
8.지금까지 뉴진스 멤버들을 투명인간 취급하거나 인사해도 무시하는 등의 행동을 한 것이 밝혀지며 더욱 문제가 되고있다.
그리고 뉴진스에게
앞으로도 뉴진스는 최소 1년6개월
아무 활동 못할 것이라 통보했다.
9.그러나 하이브에서는
"대표는 안면인식장애가있다."
"원래 얼굴을 모른다"라며
항의하는 뉴진스의 부모님들께 변명하며
뉴진스의 부모들을 민희진이 세뇌하고있다며
뉴스를 내보 내고 있어 대중들의 분노가 더욱 커진 상황이다.
10.아일릿의 춤,화장,의상,음악,앨범의 디자인,시그니쳐,글자폰트 등등
같은 아이돌 산업의 관계자들까지
뉴진스와 똑같다며 화가 나있는 상황이다.
this is it. this is the real translation people should know.
I believe it is beyond crucial for the public, especially the western kpop fans, to really listen to what Min HeeJin said in this conference rather than being credulous and trusting and weaponizing whatever misinformation spread over the internet about her and newjeans.
Hope people can recognize the MHJ's genuine care and commitment to the five girls and stop saying that it does not matter whether MHJ or Hybe get to manage NJs. Thank you so much for the upload. And shout out to the Chinese bunnies!
뉴진스를 사랑해주셔서 감사합니다. 계속해서 MHJ 대표님을 믿고 응원해주세요. 한동안 하이브의 의도적인 언론 플레이 공격으로 인해서 Mhj 대표님은 정말로 많이 지친 상태셨고, 그 상태로 나와서 저렇게 열변을 토하신 건데 말씀을 너무 잘하십니다.
i think ppl on the west really slander her when she had the pdf allegations. Plus, its a really great point for the haters to rub on.
The first 6 minutes made me already on her side, why wouldn't they sit down, SHUT UP and listen??? My god they were all in her space wtf!?
The paparazzi of lowest grade
Korean journalists are known to be monsters in the country, but they were even worse because hybe basically used media play to make her seem like a witch. Everyone thought she was in the wrong at the beginning
얼마전 한 외국인분이 욕과 함께 민희진님을 마녀로 지칭하는 댓글을 보고 너무 마음이 아팠어요 제발 진실을 알아주세요 해외에 계신 분들께서는 이 영상을 많이 알려주세요
한국말도 못하는것들이 ㅈㄴ 아는척하며 k neitizen 욕하는거 보고 참 무식하다 느꼈음
@@MS-eb8psㅇㅈ 국제팬 욕 많이 했는데..이런분들도 있어서 먼가 고마움. 전 막 그런 댓글에 marry with bang이러고 다님 ㅋㅋㅋ
I was thinking if Min Hee Jin only knew how to kiss Bang Si Hyuk's ass, she will not face this scandal. But I realized, if she was a yes-man from the beginning, NewJeans would've not debuted at all.
Thank you, Min Hee Jin for fighting for NewJeans to debut. They are the only Kpop I liked because of the artistry. And it's hard to see artistry threatened to die again because of pride and greed.
Was she trying to take newjeans away from hybe like the fifty fifty scandal?
@@DUNGSTA She already said that no one would dare another Fifty-Fifty move esp when Hybe holds 80% of Ador. She only asked for independence in a sense of NON-INTERFERENCE of Bang Si Hyuk in their way of creative production and management, and providing security against plagiarism within their "multi-label" company.
@@emlyeclectic it seems like she wants to be a ceo of her own company
@@DUNGSTA Have you watched the video really?
@@emlyeclectic bruh two hour video about what exactly? Just her side of the story of what she wants you to hear
기자회견 후에도 하이브는 어도어를 계속 공격하고 있습니다. 대주주의 횡포로부터 민희진대표를 지키려면 소비자의 거대한 결집이 필요합니다.
모두의 작은 관심이 큰 힘이 됩니다. 진실을 바로 알고, 뉴진스가 변함없이 역사적인 길을 갈 수 있도록 힘이되어 주세요.🤟
지킵시다. 뉴진스뿐 아니라 우린 민희진 대표도 지켜야 뉴진스의 밝은 미래를 응원해줄 수 있습니다.
You can protect NJ, but thinking NJ can't survive without MHJ is so ridiculous
@@royal_bee4534 Well there is a precedent Girlfriend, for your information
There are many many mistranslations on twitter and on the international side i saw koreans approve this translation now i have to watch the whole thing
crazy at the beginning how the men photographers mansplaining to min heejin how she should run her OWN press conference. they just listened when the male lawyer talks
RIGHT!! They feel entitled to tell her what to do, sadly quite the norm worldwide but especially in countries like KR where women are seen as subservient to men
Yeah I was thinking this too! and during the QA part, the reporters seemed kind of condescending towards her.
Yeah they're rude af
average Korean woman's experience
No wonder tfr is low there
This video has very correct translation without mistranslation. I've seen a lot of K-pop fans deliberately mistranslate Korean to spread their absurd claims. Some self-proclaim that they speak korean well, but in fact they don't， and they always cleverly mistranslate, taking advantage of the importance of the translator's intention in translating high context language like korean. But this one is good
what was mistranslated, everything im seeing check with what i've seen in my tl, even that she said minji is less pretty than she was a couple years ago
@@casal9662 I'm sorry but I think you misunderstood my comment
there's a huge problem with these big translator accounts. kpop stans who don't speak korean rely too much on them and are too quick to trust them. there's so much misleadings and mistranslations, both intentional and unintentional, that eventually become false rumors that spread like wildfire and create unnecessary beef and hate towards the wrong target. i see this every time. knetz this knetz that. people should learn how to fact check. it's not late to decide and opinionate after doing some research themselves
@@user_hxngclxxd why everyone talks about mistranslation but never say what was mistranslated.
@@casal9662 the shaman thing (armys were claiming she did witchcraft and that she wanted bts to be sent to the army quickly) and the claims that she said bts copied her saying she confirmed when the did the opposite these are at the top of my mind rn that i've seen on twitter but there was other ones as well
Thank you so much to the foreign Bunnies who worked so hard to upload the translated version. I hope many foreigners who misunderstand will read it... Fighting Bunnies
팜하니님 쇼츠 타고 왔어요 알려주셔서 너무 감사합니다❤
💙
저도 팜하니님 덕분에 알게되서, 여기저기 링크 퍼 나르고 했습니다. 감사해요.
번역 감사해요. 왜 한국인들이 이 기자회견으로 민희진 비판에서 응원으로 바뀌었는지 많은 뉴진스 팬들이 이해할 수 있었으면 좋겠네요.
as an international bunny I want to apologise to you, korean fans and korean citizens, for the amount of hate you always get. It's sad and disrespectful. Comments like "K-netz are stupid" "What do you expect from koreans?" are really beyond anything I could imagine. It's your country, your culture, your industry, your society, we don't understand all the elements that have an influence in this situation. People are even calling koreans stupid for siding with Min Hee Jin when YOU GUYS are the ones who really understand the language, the meaning, and everything I mentioned earlier.
I'm so sorry, please know that not all westerners are this disrespectful, ignorant and racist.
Since I’m a foreigner, I cannot say that I completely understand the context of this press conference, even through manually subtitled version of it. However, it is obvious that HYBE hired those talented producers in the name of “create with their own will”, but after stepping in the company, it changed and Bang wants everything to be under his control. By duplicating the individual labels’ publishing mechanism (even the template of the YT video introduction), HYBE tried to copy and paste the success to their preferred label and artist. This is a severe damage to the whole KPOP industry. Stand along with BTS and NJ, I hope this situation would be fixed and people should know that HYBE did not cherish the revenue that BTS made too. Lots of the resources were been wasted, such as producing ILLIT’s debut show, which costs 9x higher than NJ’s debut.😢
Poor my precious Cinderejeans 😞 i can’t even imagine the amount of pressure ador went through along with the girls from the start
idk but looks like its rare for women to speak up like this esp in korea.. mhj is so strong!!!
she talks very assertively and directly, she's very unsparing with her words. quite uncommon indeed
That's why she was able to spearhead the industry with her vision, NJ@@moonsigil
남성도 이런식으로 공개석상에서 말 못하는데?
한국은 지금 엄청난 페미 국가입니다 남자들은 아무것도 할 수 없어요
It’s not just women.. it’s rare for any Korean to speak like this in front of public. (People do often speak up, but not this bluntly using curse words without hesitating😂😂)
Now I understand the truth.
Min Heejin Fighting! Ador Fighting! Newjeans Fighting!
this need to share for every non-korean
This is why people, who don't understand Korean, need to stop referencing misconstrued social media posts and make their conclusion on the topic. This is very similar to what happened to Garam with her bullying scandal that she was innocent of. And if you're still opposing MHJ _after_ watching this -- then you either need to watch the video, at least, 5 more times or just move onto something else.
It's clear why MHJ was irked about this whole thing. H__E took the petty road on trying to get rid of her with groundless accusations and public/media manipulation, because their ego's couldn't take the L.
I agree that it would have been wise for her to have Chairman Bang's promise in writing. However, even if she had it in writing, when she successfully created the girl group as requested and it outperformed his girl groups, he would still have become jealous and manipulated the media to pressure her to resign.
It seems that workplace politics was not an issue in her previous workplace, where she worked for 20 years as an intern and eventually as a creative director. She just focused on her work without realizing how ugly it could be so she easily trusted Chairman Bang and CEO Park Jiwon, and she must have regretted it a lot.
한국인들 : 개저씨를 어떻게 번역했을 지 궁금함.
ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
@@tikkitokkitv how did you translate it lol, I cba to find where it is, can you just tell me here? (nevermind i found it, scumbag old men, not bad but it doesnt have the same feel as 개저씨 lol, not sure how I would have translated it)
Apparently it means old scumbag 😂😂😂
Koreans call this “a press conference that rewrote history,” “the debut stage of superstar MHJ,” “started with a press conference and ended as a fan meeting,” and “the day, our-hip-hop all-killed by Mini Jeans(MHJ).”
민희진의 풀버전 인터뷰를 제대로 본 사람이라면 민희진의 진심이 보일것이다.
YOU WATCH IT YOURSELF, AND JUDGE IT YOURSELF.
한국인(민희진)이 한국어로 2시간동안 기자회견을 했고, 그걸 한국인이 보고 하이브가 잘못됐다 라고 말하고있는데 왜 외국팬들은 knetz 이라면서 한국인 의견을 싸그리 무시하나요? K-pop 팬 뿐만 아니라 한국 대중들 대다수가 하이브 잘못이라고 생각합니다.
걍 영상 안 본 것 같음. 봤으면 저딴 소릴 할 수가 없음
방탄팬들은 한국인이여도 하이브편 들더라...ㅋ
@@myung1214 아미가 원래 하이브 욕하는걸로 유명한데 뭔 방탄팬 이러고 있어? 모르면 그냥 가만 있어요.
How about Kim Garam case. KNetz are poor in judgement and easily provocated.
@@wildlotus4339 You're mistaken.
Can we at least agree now that Bang Shi hyuk is the problem, not Min Hee Jin, not New Jeans, not Le Sserafim, not ILLIT, not GFriend, not BTS? Just Bang Shi Hyuk, who made it a personal vendetta to destroy her for…creating a more popular girl group than what he created, despite hiring her to do exactly this job
Not just him, but all his yes-men at HYBE.
Plus Hybe CEO Park-Jiwon
I've been a bts fan since 2014 and trust me, people who's been around for as long as me, most og fans, don't like that pig.
I guess it's the newer fans who are clueless that are simping for him aka company stans.
@@HanniPham_NewJeans haha you’re lying. the og protect what bts has build and trusts bts connection with bsh. also, the og never leave the fandom. clearly u are a new jeans fans now seeing your name handle 🤣
@@znjzero45tionyou know she can be a army and bunnie right?
So just in. Hybe plans to give NewJeans a 1 year and 6 months “vacation” after Tokyo Dome Bunnies Camp. So In other words, they're going to shelf these girls omg. Someone please protect them I can’t take this 😔
These insecure people gonna cancel their full album and world tour next year and send them on hiatus their so called vacation...they gonna put them in vacation saying it takes time to recruit a grammy winner producer
They are going to shelf newjeans not giving them a comeback saying they are on vacation and promote their group and slowly make gp forget them coz if a group dont release music for very long people eventually start to loose interest n no one will point fingers on them for copying
@@yerin-f6emnyep exactly that. They will put them in the dungeon and they will push ILLIT to be very active to grow their name and try to overtake them. I feel sick thinking about it
@@CwutieY2KI feel really bad for them don't know who will be able to save them now from them
@@yerin-f6emnunfortunately the best outcome from this imo is them terminating their contract and paying the fine and somehow moving on with mhj to start some place else. They won’t be able to be under the name NewJeans though but I believe this might be the best option going forward honestly….they won’t be safe at HYBE that’s for sure
maybe because also with all these legals things going on, there could be management issue of who will take over them or do they want to be taken over. seriously, how can these girls can focus work if there is chaos
I watched it from beginning to end and I can say that the relationship between Hybe and Ador looks like abuse. And if Heejin hadn’t made an effort, it’s unknown when NewJeans would have debuted.
Exactly! If it weren’t for Min Heejin’s dedicated efforts to debut NewJeans in line with the aesthetic and goals she envisioned, we might never have known that NJ even existed. The discrimination HYBE shows towards NewJeans compared to other groups is unbelievable. It's evident that Bang Si-hyuk’s vision conflicted with Min Heejin’s; he opposed adding Daniel to the group because he thought she looked "too foreign" and disagreed with the musical direction for "Attention," "Hype Boy," and "Cookie." Bang Si-hyuk offered his own composition for NewJeans' debut song, but Min Heejin, with a clear aesthetic goal, rejected his offer and his views on the group's composition. This decision likely sparked the tension between them. Understanding all this at once may be challenging, but please, I urge you to see the truth, Bunnies! We must protect NewJeans from HYBE!
Newjeans only exists because of hybe lmao all money comes from them stop being delusional holy shit. Ador is a hybe company@@SUNGLITTER___
@@ausgod538 You make no sense. Because they own Ador they can't abuse them? What? Hybe disbanded Gfriend and locked Fromis in the dungeon. Hybe also owns them. Are you saying they're not being mistreated? What are you even doing here with your shit takes, you clearly hate MHJ and NJ so stop loitering around here.
@@ausgod538seems like armys have arrived 🤣
@@SUNGLITTER___ Yup, this is why BSH's ego was hurt that MHJ was able to create this monster success with NJ without his help. Because the "man who created BTS" was completely wrong on his predictions and analysis on MHJ's vision.
It shows why so many korean people who even don't like kpop or who are not newjeans' fans are on MHJ's side. It was Hybe who betrayed MHJ first and showed so much disrespect towards her, artists, and the whole kpop industry. It's devastating to see for international fans to support Hybe, not knowing what really happened.
Edit: grammar and clarification
Please spread this video widely. You have to rooting for Min Heejin
The dirty tactic to use MHJ's name to get free promotion for Lesserafim is baffling.
Kind of smart in a way 😂 he knew people would eat it up
Also, why do they need to do that. Sakura and Chaewon are already there which is enough promotion. They should've let Min Hee jin promote them (newjeans) as is.
@@eggiemybabylike she said they’re low iq greedy bastards
@@eggiemybabymhj is known to be one of the best creative directors in sk for the entertainment industry as she basically made the concepts for all of the sm artists prior to leaving (snsd, shinee, exo, f(x), red velvet, etc). A lot of Koreans were hyped to see what group she would create at hybe after hearing about her move so I’m assuming that the corporate wanted to raise more awareness about lsf outside of izone fans
Bunnies stay with Newjeans forever
And if u wanna stan NJ forever, u should be believing and protecting MHJ. Tbh She is part of NJ
@@user-qy1zr4bt3vtrue mhj actually was true about everything but everyone was hating her now we can see the real face of her i am really disappointed the only group i stan rn is njs the only real group tbh
@@user-fj8vb2wy4b love u true bunnnnnies
Absolutely
First off thanks to everyone that helped get this out, it obviously took a lot of work.
But I'm glad this is out there for the foreign fanbase to see because all of the initial discussions I saw were really trying to paint MHJ in a very strange way. You can tell by how the members speak about MHJ that there is clearly a strong bond between them and that they care about each other a lot so I found it very strange when people were trying to depict her as some kind of predator. It's just such a shame that the adults couldn't handle this behind closed doors.
The way the reporters/photographers kept getting behind her to take her photo after countless of times asking them to stop was so disrespectful.
Bang Shi Hyuk không ngừng tấn công MHJ, tôi tự hỏi tại sao cô ấy lại phải im lặng khi NJ chuẩn bị comeback. Người hâm mộ của BTS, tôi biết các bạn cũng mệt mỏi khi bị kéo vào chuyện này nhưng dường như b k hề nhận ra Bang Shi Hyuk luôn đem BTS ra làm lá chắn, bạn vẫn sẽ bao che cho sự bỉ ổi, vô đạo đức của ông ấy. MHJ đang chống lại cả một tập đoàn để cố gắng bảo vệ NewJeans, người đàn ông mà các bạn tin tưởng đang làm mọi thứ rối tung lên. Tôi mong mọi người nhìn nhận đúng vấn đề và lên án hành vi côn đồ của Hybe. Bang Shi Hyuk hãy mau kết thúc bãi chiến trường của mình trước khi chúng trở nên tồi tệ, bạn đang dùng truyền thông bắt nạt người khác, bạn không xứng đáng với sự tin tưởng của cổ đông và những người tin tưởng bạn. Cảm ơn 🙏
Thề trước TxT ra mắt xong ồ ạt các nhóm khác ra mắt, Army cũng đã bức xúc lắm rồi cứ như kiểu bào tiền BTS đến từng giọt một tạo nhóm khác để lấp khoảng trống của BTS vậy xong giá vé, album cũng lên trời luôn bào tiền fan đủ thứ. Chưa kể lúc BTS chưa nổi Tae chào lão Bang lão cũng ngó bơ đi mà lúc đấy anh nhà buồn lắm mãi sau nhóm nổi mới dám bật lại lão mới xin lỗi, má, lão Bang hãm. Lúc trước lão cũng chỉ chăm chăm vào nhóm nhạc nữ bơ đi BTS khi mà nhóm nữ đấy gặp scandal tan rã thì BTS phải bục mặt trả nợ cho công ty. Mấy anh nhà ngoan vãi 😢😢. Giờ lão lấy tiền BTS kiếm ra để làm ra nhóm để thế chỗ vào nhóm sau chất lượng kém hơn nhóm tr. TxT trước cũng tốt mà ko tập trung đầu tư đã nhào nhao làm nhóm mới giờ TxT cũng ít có bài hit mà nhóm hát live cũng tốt. Lão vẫn thích chăm chăm vào nhóm nhạc nữ lão thích như thể thực hiện giấc mơ giang giở.
사태를 정확하게 보고 계시네요.님 댓글 보고 위안을 얻게 되었습니다.댓글 작성해 주셔서 고맙습니다.
번역을 해주셔서 정말 감사드립니다
예를 들어 그때 실시간 영상을 보며
민희진이 욕설을 한 부분에 있어서 한국 기자들이 놀라워 하며 웃음을 짓고
많은 한국인들이 앞뒤 문맥을 파악하고 통쾌하다며 웃었는데
국외에선 소수의 한국어 가능자들이 그 장면을 보며
기자들과 대중들이 현재 민희진을 비웃고 있다고 전달하며 여론을 호도 하고
나중엔 그걸 믿은 사람들은 왜 분명 비웃던 분위기였는데
한국의 여론이 갑자기 반전된건가 궁금해 하는걸 보며
부디 제대로된 번역 영상으로
많은 외국팬들이 몇몇 팬덤에 의해 조작되고 왜곡된 여론에 흔들리지 말고
있는 그대로를 받아들이고 판단해줬으면 좋겠네요
못 알아들어서 그런다고 칠 순 있어도 민대표님 표정도 상기됐는데 ㅅㅂ 그걸 곧이곧대로 믿는 게 ㅅㅂㅋㅋ 케이팝 팬들 지능이 낮은가 그런 애들이 너무 많아서 요즘 좀 솔직히 싫어짐ㅋㅋ
Mmh el famdom latino fue parte de la difamación hacia Min Hee Jin, ella puede ser lo que quiera, pero mentirosa no creo que sea.
뉴진스 팬이 아닌 한국인조차도 최소 70%이상은 민희진편이란다. 외국인들아ㅋㅋㅋㅋ특히 I-Army 들아...
사실 70%가 아니라 99%죠ㅋㅋ
이미 한국에서 하이브 나가리됐음 릇읍읍도 아읍읍도 혐한친일그룹들
@@Milkywayzxca유튜브 커뮤에서 방시혁 대 민희진 투표했었는데 99% 민희진 나왔었음 ㅇㄱㄹㅇㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Yeah the i army they are living in their own world saying that she is a pedophile and manipulative when they literally believe that she said that bts copied new jeans concept how come someone be such a big fool ofcourse she never said that when asked have they seen the conference they will be calling her delusional but aren't they delusional they don't even want to see the truth because they don't want bts and someother boy group to disband❤❤
비정상적 인간들 다 빼면 사실상 100% 임 ㅇㅇ
Dear Tikkitokki team you basicly done a movie length conference subs which is actually harder that subbing a movie itself. Thank you so so much!
Hope a lot of neutral people will watch this and decide for themself which one is the true side.
Thank you to the Bunnies for translating this. People in other countries didn't understand why Koreans supported MHJ. This was because the video of the press conference was not translated into many languages. Koreans think that this is such a relief. Once again, thank you so much for the translation!
If you have any questions, feel free to ask me anything!
민희진이 얼마나 뉴진스를 아끼고 케이팝을 사랑하는지 많이들 봤으면 좋겠다 땡큐 👍🧢
A Legendary press conference in K-pop history frrrrr
every bunnies should see this
K-POP 산업을 걱정하는 민희진 마음이 너무 이해가 된다.
포카 남발해서 앨범 판매량 늘리는 게 결국 산업 자체를 고립시기고 망가뜨림.
이번 기회에 전체적으로 재정비 했으면 좋겠다.
K-POP뿐만 아니라 한국사회 전반적으로...
시원한 2시간 감사했습니다.
I noticed many international fans didn’t know much about the whole situation(and i know it’s because of sooo many things going around here)…I hope everyone can watch this video and get to know more about what happened around here! Knets had our reasons to change our minds🥲😂
Wait, watching her suffering from the camera flash and kindly dealt with it makes me feel sad tho
I AM WITH MIN HEE JIN AND NEW JEANS YOU WORKED SO HARD TO BE TREATED THIS WAY ANOTHER GENIUS WORK STOLEN ❤❤❤❤❤MAKE ME SO MAD FOR HER WORKING LIKE THAT TO JUST GETTING FIRED TO NOT ACT LIKE A SLAVE AND NOT LETTING THEM STOLEN HER WORK DISGUSTING
Bang Shi Hyuk not only devalued himself, but also his company and his artists by doing this manipulative media play. He espouses the message of love yourself with bts and be fearless with lesserafim, but seeing him do this makes those messages feel kind of empty. Am I the only one that feels this way?? I wish both of those groups well, but I think Bang might be tainting their legacy with his cruel behavior. When listen to LSF songs I usually think "wow this is great, what a touching message", but when I remember Bang was responsible for it makes me really sad.
people must be really crazy if these messages spread by kpop groups are real? they all doing it for money, JUST FOR MONEY. no one really pay attention to positive messages out of their pure heart. so, bts' message is love yourself, cool. but to believe that they are genuine about it is straight up crazy, stupid, and unreasonable.
@@thechargingknightofamarapura I miss the og gangster BTS which was not about love yourself but instead popping caps into anyone in their way lol.
🐰: CEO Min Heejin didn't do anything wrong
Before this press conference, Hybe's false claim made Min Hee-jin a bad person. However, most Koreans cheer for Min Hee-jin after this press conference because everyone knows about Hybe's false identity
she's a creep who sexualizes minors but ok
Where are you from? Are you Korean citizens? I think many Korean people don't know what the CEO should say at the press conference. I have never seen a CEO cry at a press conference in Western county.
@@ambiguousness spitting bullshit maybe watch the video 5 times then come back again nigga
@@erikoenglish1651 She only cried when she was talking about her beloved New Jeans, not when she was talking about the HYBE. Also, through this, we can see that Min Heejin cherishes New Jeans a lot and wants to protect them from the HYBE.
@@erikoenglish1651Get out of here. Is this America? You're racist af
Why do many i-armys say "I just don't like MHJ, I love BTS" at first, but at the end, "BSH is the boss and he's the best"? Even BTS isn't interested in the topic of discussion. Why are you spreading aimless love for BSH? Create a new fandom for BSH.
That's what I wanted to say. 👏
昔のBSHは好きでしたが、今はもう信用できません。
LOUDER🗣️
@koharu8066 "he is the best" doesn't mean that he's great or she(or he) likes him. I'm Korean and I completely understood what MHJ said. And I guess it's just a mistranslation. The right translation is he has the most powerful strength in h9be. Which means he's authority is freaking high.
@@koharu8066 .
Thank you for your sacrifice 🙏.
Really, if anyone's still on Hybe's side after watching this whole 2 hour press conference about how NewJeans almost didn't debut, the Kakao Talk messages of suppressing their promotions, the kind of petty person Bang Si Hyuk is after Ditto was released, and the trust me bro attitude of Park Ji Won on getting MHJ to sign a contract he hasn't even read, then they're a lost cause.
What's provided here is proof that the conversations DID take place, and that Hybe's rebuttal has a lot of lies mixed into it.
Hybe is so fraudulent being the first one to mention other artists. If MHJ wants to explain her position, she inevitably has to mention others. Then in this way, hybe stans can accuse her of dragging others in this drama.
they were the ones that ran to the media instead of conducting this quietly and internally
@@moonsigil yay they lit the fire to the artists and then accused others of being witches
@@moonsigil when?
@@scheepersmonica Ain't no way Grandma is into kpop drama LMFAOOOO
CEO Min Heejin didn't do anything wrong😿
I read someone commented that this is Charles v Diana 2.0 and I can’t be more convinced. These people with too much power but little talent and minimal determination will always feel jealous over hardworking, talented, and easily loved people. I hope those kinds of people know that they are toxic.
눈을 떠라 해외팬들아 open your eyes international BUNNIES
Si, yo desde el principio apoyo a la ceo
I'm writing this comment for foreigners who swear at MHJ without knowing the truth. 이 댓글은 예전에 어떤 영어 대댓글에 빡쳐서 작성한 것으로, 진실을 모른 채 민희진을 욕하는 외국인 분들을 위해서 이렇게 댓글로도 씁니다. 복사해서 퍼가셔도 돼요.
If you love the music and identity of New Jeans, you have to read this.
Bang and HYBE has blocked the debut of New Jeans and made a debut of Le Sserafim suddenly, so MHJ has established ADOR, giving all the share of ADOR to HYBE. (MHJ had no choice but to give all the share to Bang in order to make a debut of her group) Now MHJ has 20% of the share but you can tell that she can't do the breach of trust with ONLY 20%. Plus, surprisingly, Bang made her to contract that she can't do her job as long as she has her share(5% of the share can't be sold without the permission of HYBE) Wow, that's funny, isn't it? HYBE is trying to fire MHJ cuz she said some advice to Bang INTERNALLY and she was telling the brutality of Bang in her group's MV. That's why there is a Kakaotalk message that Bang had threatened MHJ because of 'OMG' MV.
It's obvious that Bang (Si Hyeok) has copied a lot of songs in his groups: Le SSerafim, ILLIT... (ex. songs: Unforgiven=Rosalia's song, Smart='Water' and 'Woman', Lucky Girl Syndrome='Favorite Liar', lots of choreography and the concept of Magnetic=New Jeans) MHJ has criticized on the Bang's behavior because he copied A to Z even they are in the same company and in the same period. He's literally ruining K-POP. If Bang take a reference of New Jeans and create his own style(not copy) in decades, MHJ might not mention on the problem. Cuz it's different creation and the period is different, right?
Search yourself and you'll realize it. Please open your eyes and ears!!! Look at the press conference of MHJ. After it, Korean has realized the truth and we've been saying we have to protect New Jeans and MHJ. Why? It's because Bang is trying to take control of the press and the TRUTH, by his money and the people of 'Dan World', which is an obvious cult in Korea. (There are many followers of the cult among politician and journalist in high rank) Why has Bang taken control of the press? Cuz there' no suitable reason to fire MHJ. HYBE started the battle first, but now Korean knows what's the truth.
There are lots of people who are damaged because of the cult(Dan World) even in the U.S. Bang has pressured on New Jeans and MHJ to believe their cult, but MHJ has resisted on the pressure. Look at the lyrics and MV of 'OMG', 'ASAP', 'Ditto'. And look the interpretation of the lyrics of 'ETA' by Korean. (you can see the interpretation on the comment of the MV)
The cult is not just a cult, the ultimate goal of them is to make Korea as a colony of Japan again. Look at ‘Burn the Bridge' MV of Le Sserafim. To make you understand better, it's just as like supporting and advocating the era of Nazi or Colonial history of the United States. Bad history should not be repeated ever again.
MHJ has tried to protect against the insane HYBE, Dan World. She is just an adult who feels responsibility for the children, New Jeans. If there's anyone who thinks HYBE is good and 'oh, we have to protect HYBE cuz it's the company of BTS, or sth.' Bullshit!!! Bang has used BTS as the real bullet proof. Bang is hiding back of BTS from the voice of Korean. 'Clarify the relationship between Dan World and HYBE' This is what Korean want to know.
Do you really concern about BTS and K-POP? Then you have to see the truth and criticize on not MHJ but HYBE and DAN WORLD. Remember, music, especially K-POP can be the best way to brainwash and make familiarize one's own idea to the public using their lyric and video. A lot of children can be brainwashed with music, not knowing what is wrong and right.
MHJ has created music which can bring back the pure and precious memories of people, and that's why Korean loves NJ and MHJ. If Bang takes control of NJ, there won't be NJ's own music anymore.
여기에서 하이브 옹호하는 놈들은 다 댓글 알바 새끼로 간주하겠음.
민희진을 보고 많은 한국인들이 공감하는 이유는 사회생활을 하는 사람이라면 ‘본인의 능력’만으로 높은자리에 올라간 사람이 자기들끼리 뭉쳐서 라인으로 높은자리에 오른 정치적인 사람들에 의해 능력만 쓰이고 버려지는 경우를 너무 많이 보았기 때문이겠지.
능력이 있는 사람이 열심히 일해서 결과물을 만들어 놓으면 그 끼리끼리들이 회사돈으로 호의호식하다 자기이름만 올리고 공을 가로채는 거지같은 상황을 회사에서 너무 많이 봐서 민희진의 말만 듣고도 상황 파악이 다 되기 때문에 같은 직장인으로서 공감이 갈 수 밖에ㅠㅠ
제발 이 번역본 좀 다 보고 상황을 객관적으로 좀 봤으면....
대기업과 개인의 대결에서 사실 개인이 어지간히 억울하지 않고서야 이렇게 대등하게 싸워보려 하기가 어렵다고요ㅠ
When I-fans had a problem with MHJ telling the reporters to stop with the camera lights and flashes, as if she was being difficult. Even White House press conferences have the courtesy to not use flashes. There's a real medical problem called seizures from epilepsy and without a disclaimer can result in lawsuits. Seizures can also occur in people who are experiencing mental health issues like anxiety and stress at one's workplace.
It's a cultural difference that makes people seem a certain way , in America asking people to move or get out the way or just cursing is seen as rude or improper behavior, and I do belive the cursing is very unprofessional especially since she's representing new jeans who are very young girls , as for me im not on anyone's side until the full truth comes out , i can defitnely say this is a play off greed and money
But I definitely do agree , they were all in her personal space I'd be annoyed too
But I definitely do agree , they were all in her personal space I'd be annoyed too
HYBE was surrounded by a giant Illusion, like Mysterio's trick. that Illusion slowly collapses and reality is coming out. HYBE portrays Min Hee-jin as a witch and uses the media to hide irregularities. But we support her. Justice will prevail. I hope the Korean music industry develops positively this time.
I’d like to see Hybe do a press conference with just two bottles of water and an iPhone. No script. I’ll believe them if they do. Until then, I’m with MHJ. 🐰🐰🐰🐰🐰🐰
Many Kpop stans don't need the truth but just need a reason to make MHJ and NJs the wrong people
Sounds cruel but that's how things work
비판을 위한 비판
meeheejin fighting！！！bunnies will always support you❤❤❤
Tysm bunniiiiiieesss mmmmmuah❤
The subs will help foreign fans realise how they ran with whatever narrative that gave them a chance to cope better.
Min Hee Jin, don't you dare lose this fight. Please.. 😭
Thanks a lot for this as an international fan it would really help us to understand what she wanted to convey even though there's a lot on X and other sources.
링크 공유해서 널리널리 퍼뜨려주세요😢😢 저희 한국인들은 민희진 대표님과 뉴진스의 행복한 앞날을 기대하고 있습니다
Even after watching this, there're many ignorant blind fans commenting here. I believe if you understand English, if you watch the whole video, if you work in a company, you all can understand MHJ's points.
Son Stan hybe, y que 0d1an a NJ,no esperes mucho de esas esc0rias
Your team did good work for this. I can see the positive impact that it is making on Twitter.
한국 대중들은 민희진을 응원합니다. 민희진은 피해자입니다. 하이브는 민희진에게 개인이 감당할 수 없는 인격 살인 수준의 공격을 했습니다. 하이브가 주장하는 것들은 진실이 아닌 것으로 모두 밝혀졌고, 그들은 계속 이유를 바꿔가면서 민희진을 해임시키려고 합니다. 민희진은 그저 레이블의 독립성과 창작물에 대한 저작권을 지켜달라는 요구를 했을 뿐입니다. 꼭 영상을 끝까지 시청해주세요.
Hybe가 민희진과 협업한 사람들 작업물 압수하고 개인정보 동의서에 서명하게 강요한 뒤 개인 카톡 내역을 강제로 공개하는거 보고 너무 충격받았음. 어떻게 일개 연예계 기업이 저런 초법적 권한을 행사할수있음? 이건 우리가 아는 것 이상의 배후가 있지않고선 불가능함
기업이 개인에게 댓글알바를 풀면서까지 묻으려고 한다는게.....맞는건지
I'm writing this comment for foreigners who swear at MHJ without knowing the truth. 이 댓글은 예전에 어떤 영어 대댓글에 빡쳐서 작성한 것으로, 진실을 모른 채 민희진을 욕하는 외국인 분들을 위해서 이렇게 댓글로도 씁니다. 복사해서 퍼가셔도 돼요. Please spread this, Bunnies, Armies, whoever u are.
If you love the music and identity of New Jeans, you have to read this.
Bang and HYBE has blocked the debut of New Jeans and made a debut of Le Sserafim suddenly, so MHJ has established ADOR, giving all the share of ADOR to HYBE. (MHJ had no choice but to give all the share to Bang in order to make a debut of her group)
Now MHJ has 20% of the share but you can tell that she can't do the breach of trust with ONLY 20%. Plus, surprisingly, Bang made her to contract that she can't do her job as long as she has her share(5% of the share can't be sold without the permission of HYBE) Wow, that's funny, isn't it? HYBE is trying to fire MHJ cuz she said some advice to Bang INTERNALLY and she was telling the brutality of Bang in her group's MV. That's why there is a Kakaotalk message that Bang had threatened MHJ because of 'OMG' MV.
It's obvious that Bang (Si Hyeok) has copied a lot of songs in his groups: Le SSerafim, ILLIT... (ex. songs: Unforgiven=Rosalia's song, Smart='Water' and 'Woman', Lucky Girl Syndrome='Favorite Liar', lots of choreography and the concept of Magnetic=New Jeans) MHJ has criticized on Bang's behavior because he copied A to Z even they are in the same company and in the same period. He's literally ruining K-POP. If Bang take a reference of New Jeans and create his own style(not copy) in decades, MHJ might not mention on the problem. Cuz it's different creation and the period is different, right?
Search yourself and you'll realize it. Please open your eyes and ears!!! Look at the press conference of MHJ. After it, Korean has realized the truth and we've been saying we have to protect New Jeans and MHJ. Why? It's because Bang is trying to take control of the press and the TRUTH, by his money and the people of 'Dan World', which is an obvious cult in Korea. (There are many followers of the cult among politician and journalist in high rank) Why has Bang taken control of the press? Cuz there's no suitable reason to fire MHJ. HYBE started the battle first, but now Korean knows Bang is a looser and MHJ is the winner.
There are lots of people who are damaged because of the cult(Dan World) even in the U.S. Bang has pressured on New Jeans and MHJ to believe their cult, but MHJ has resisted on the pressure. Look at the lyrics and MV of 'OMG', 'ASAP', 'Ditto'. And look the interpretation of the lyrics of 'ETA' by Korean. (you can see the interpretation on the comment of the MV)
The cult is not just a cult, the ultimate goal of them is to make Korea as a colony of Japan again. Look at ‘Burn the Bridge' MV of Le Sserafim. To make you understand better, it's just as like supporting and advocating the era of Nazi or Colonial history of the United States. Bad history should not be repeated ever again.
MHJ has tried to protect NJ against the insane HYBE, Dan World. She is just an adult who feels responsibility for the children, New Jeans. If there's anyone who thinks HYBE is good and 'oh, we have to protect HYBE cuz it's the company of BTS, or sth.' Bullshit!!! Bang has used BTS as the real bullet proof. Bang is hiding back of BTS from the voice of Korean. 'Clarify the relationship between Dan World and HYBE' This is what Korean want to know.
Do you really concern about BTS, and K-POP? Then you have to see the truth and criticize on not MHJ but HYBE and DAN WORLD. Remember, music, especially K-POP can be the best way to brainwash and make familiarize one's own idea to the public using their lyric and video. A lot of children can be brainwashed with music, not knowing what is wrong and right.
MHJ has created music which can bring back the pure and precious memories of people, and that's why Korean loves NJ and MHJ. If Bang takes control of NJ, there won't be NJ's own music anymore.
한국인 말 좀 들어주세요 🥹🥹🥹
여기에서 하이브 옹호하는 놈들은 다 댓글 알바 새끼로 간주하겠음.
You're just being manipulated by MHJ.
@@julianearagao1980Says the person who doesn't know a single word of Korean and is going to kiss Bang PD's ass.
"방시혁이 주도해서 만든 르세라핌" vs "민희진이 주도해서 만든 뉴진스" 에서 방시혁이 의도적으로 뉴진스 홍보를 못하게 했고, 뉴진스를 먼저 데뷔시켜주겠다는 약속도 지키지 않았고, 뉴진스를 표절한 걸그룹을 만들어서 뉴진스를 빠르게 소모시키려고 했다. 이걸 민희진이 이의제기 했더니 언론플레이로 민희진을 악마화 했다.
as an international bunny I want to apologise to you, korean fans and korean citizens, for the amount of hate you always get. It's sad and disrespectful. Comments like "K-netz are stupid" "What do you expect from koreans?" are really beyond anything I could imagine. It's your country, your culture, your industry, your society, we don't understand all the elements that have an influence in this situation. People are even calling koreans stupid for siding with Min Hee Jin when YOU GUYS are the ones who really understand the language, the meaning, and everything I mentioned earlier.
I'm so sorry, please know that not all westerners are this disrespectful, ignorant and racist.
@@argiexpat 어디에나 이상한 사람은 있습니다. 한 나라나 한 인종을 싸잡아 비난하는 사람들은 그저 무지하고 무례한 사람들일 뿐이죠. 우리 스스로 그런 사람이 되지 않도록 생각을 열어놓을 필요가 있습니다. 긴 영상을 다 봐주셔서 제가 다 감사합니다!