Safecracking for Everyone part 2 (Vulnerabilities)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ธ.ค. 2019
- Decided to go unscripted this time and also tried out a new mic. Things start to get a little more complicated in this episode, feel free to ask any questions!
Also forgot to mention, when I say feel the contact points that I really mean feel not listen. You can be completely deaf and crack open safes. No sounds required, blast those tunes while you practice.
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This has so far been the best video set ive seen on this topic. Easy to understand and explained so well.
Awesome video! I am writing a hard boiled crime novel set in the 1930's. I won't be complete without a safe cracking.
You are a FANTASTIC Teacher!!!
Awesome! Just found the combo to the Meilink Safe that has been locked forever (in my motorhome)
"the lagard 3330, notoriously known as being a very difficult group 2 lock" oh no, that's the model I have coming to learn on hahaha, oh well, should be fun
How did you get on with it? I’ve got exactly the same one to practice on 😬
@@chrispowellutube I got it open hahaha, it took me forever though. The hardest part (for me) was getting consist readings, I had to get into a habit of giving the dial a tug down before taking each reading, and then it was fine (still hard, but fine)
@@TheLemonyOne I look forward to the challenge, I have the lock but not the time right now, however it will by new to do list in the near future 👍
Another great vid - really like these! Keep it up :)
My dad died. I have set myself to opening the safe. You will teach me.
I bought a gun safe for $20, it’s in really rough shape, but the owner passed away and her grandson sold it to me. Anyway? It has the LaGard 0330. So far I have managed to remove the lock. It would be easier by a factor of 100’s to buy a new lock. But I like the challenge of resetting the combination. Your tutorial and another on TH-cam might just make it easier
thanks for the video
Thank you for your Great Video! What lock would be good to start as a beginner? I was looking for the sparrows vault but it is nowhere in stock to buy...
You can find an s&g 6700 series on ebay from time to time. There's no functional difference between the 6730 and 6741 so either would work well.
@@lockmanipulator thank you, your videos are very motivating. I will get one.
Is it possible for the contact points to be between 97 left. and 100 right?
Any experience with a Intersec dial lock? Boss has an old safe that got closed by mistake. I have a concern because the handle left of dial just spins like its not connected.
The videos are excellent but I fear my dial may be broken. I feel no resistance or drag at at point
I have a mustang gun safe with s&g lock. Long story short the wheels seized which lead to breaking the spline (dial free wheels). I know the combo. How do I proceed?
My brother in law loaned me his floor safe door, that he has, so I could try practicing on it. It is a 4 number code, with a fence that is not level accross the top. It doesn't have a nose, to the side, like this one. I guess that makes the nose and fence, the same piece? So it's a nose fence? Anyway, the 3rd and last numbers, are the only ones I can get it to reveal, because it always puts the other wheels in the way, when you move it enough, to get the other gates to line up. The only way to open this, that I can figure, if it's on the safe, is to drill a hole, to see where the gates line up. So, maybe the one I have here is uncrackable?
Great videos. I have a friend with two old safes. Said if I open one I can have the other. These are safes with the handle to open next to the dial. Does these videos hold true for this type of lock. Thanks
When you try to turn the handle, does the dial lock up? If so, then no these videos will not help. But if the dial continues to turn smoothly even with pressure on the handle, then yes.
@@lockmanipulator Thanks the wheel turns smoothly. The dial says Meilink Patent July 2 1907 Oct 13 1908. I am just not feeling any stops. Maybe weak spring or wear. Any ideas? Dial is 20 to 100 with nothing between 100 and 20. Thanks Tim
@@timmoisiokingsville2095 I'm not familiar with that lock unfortunately. With the dial being from 20-100, and with you saying that there are no contact points, it might not be the same kind of lock that is in my videos.
@@lockmanipulator With a dial with no numbers 0 to 20, where do you start with no 0.
@@timmoisiokingsville2095 I wouldn't. It's not the same type of lock that these techniques work with. If anything, I would just try to use the dial to feel around and see if I can tell what going on inside the lock and try discover some weakness in it's design.
I really appreciate these videos, they have been most helpful.
I have a question regarding the function of the dial and wheels:
if I turn the dial several rotations to the left until I have All Wheels Left and parked at let's say 50, and then I begin to slowly rotate to the right- am I moving the 3rd wheel as soon as I start rotating right? or is there one full rotation that can be made before a wheel is picked up? (in which case- after having AWL parked on 50, rotating one revolution to the right you would pick up the 3rd wheel at 50, another rotation right you'd pick up the 2nd wheel at 50 as well, and another rotation right you'd pick up the first wheel at 50 and you'd be carrying all three.)
is the 3rd wheel always picked up first, regardless of whether you're counter-rotating from AWL or AWR?
thanks in advance. trying to wrap my head around the mechanics, but it's tough without having it in hand.
(well, I have it IN HAND but I can't see the backside as I'm locked out of my safe!)
just answered my own question by rewatching part 1. doh!
mine is a bit odd. contact points seem to be at 3 and 14. not sure if it was designed this way or if it has shifted due to abuse. it's a 40 year old safe, and has spent much of its life out in a warehouse where hundreds of employees work, and I imagine people have stopped and spun the dial (or worse) just for kicks.
The 3rd wheel would only get picked up after one full rotation. And it doesn't matter whether it's AWL or AWR. Hope that helps!
@@lockmanipulator that does help!
I've had a lot of success tonight! I managed to confirm my first number beyond a shadow of a doubt. Then after running the High/Low Test, I was able to deduce that this number is on Wheel 2 (just like yours was in the video), because I got a wider gap in both the High and Low tests when I threw the 2nd position off by 10. I've started working through my second chart, using my newly discovered number in the middle spot. unfortunately I have to go to sleep for work in the morning, getting so excited I just want to stay up and keep going! 🙃
one thing has me scratching my head though: I've discovered the 2nd number in my combo, and I found it by spinning AWL in the first chart, like you did. however- everything I've found online about this 40 year old safe I have claims that the proper sequence is: 1st number left, 2nd number right, 3rd number left, then turn right until the lever falls.
what do you make of this? if the first number I found is 34L and it is indeed the 2nd number in the combo, can I spin to 34 from the other direction (like the sequence calls for)? will it be shifted a few digits? or, perhaps I made a mistake somewhere? I shudder to think it lol
I know I'm throwing a lot at you here. curious what your thoughts are. thanks again, and cheers!!
@@aaronschwingel3330 Because you found the 2nd wheel with AWL but it's normally dialed AWR, you'll have to either dial it with AWL or use rotational conversion. I talk about rotational conversion a bit in later videos I think or you can google (without quotes) "rotational conversion site:keypicking.com". I definitely talk about dialing with the "incorrect" rotation in later videos. Basically, you have to dial it with right rotation and pass it by 5-10 numbers, then go back around left and bring it to the correct number with left rotation.
@@lockmanipulator thanks for the quick feedback- you're a gem! for now I'll continue to focus on getting the other 2 numbers, and then circle back to this when I'm finally ready to open this badboy and see what works
Good explanation. Maybe I missed it, but why would reputable safes have wheels that are not the same size such that the difference could actually be felt? It seems that a quality safe would guarantee that these wheels be machined to very close tolerances. Just a thought and an honest question.
Higher rated group locks have mechanism specifically built in to give you fake touch points, making manipulating a nightmare for them. Impossible? No, but the higher rated group locks are rated that high by Underwriter laboratories after going through a heat test, vibration test, and twenty hours of uninterrupted manipulation
If i'm understanding this properly
1: you turn 4 roll rotations to reset
2: check the contact points,
3: go through each number on the 1st possible conbination
4: go back and check if the contact points got closer, if so. Then the 1st wheel is the biggest and you have that number.
If not then repeat for the 2ndand then 3rd if neccesary
5: repeat for the 2 smaller wheels
Is that the basic idea?
Yes, however if you are only moving one wheel at a time then usually it would be the third wheel not the first wheel that you check. But normally, most people rotate all three wheels at once and then just use high/low testing to determine which wheel has the found number.
@@lockmanipulator thank you very much . I only saw the second video and figured it out.
what is the golden plate located at the right bottom of the mechanism ?
Do you mean the lever he’s pushing on to retract the bolt? That’s a re-locker mechanism, on lesser grade locks it’s literally a spring made out of a paper clip. It’s supposed to always have pressure on it from the back of the lock pressing on the lever so it can allow the bolt to come back. This is a last resort mechanism for the lock should the criminal attempt to rip the dial off and punch through the lock. No back of the lock body means no pressure on the relocker, which means no retract for the criminal without tools, or worse, require finding a drill point to destroy the linkage in the door.
And how do you classify a crappy highschool / cheap padlock combination lock, which you pull on, and just spin thru all the numbers for a super-obvious lockpicking???
How to figure out third number ?
They can be precise to the nm
jeff sitar .. dount have to say any more ..
jesus christ, you have to tell the difference between a 4th of a number? Ugh I am a locksmith and I know I am too heavy handed for this
Do you have a crypto channel? You sound like a guy I follow for crypto.
Goddammit. I wish you were better at communication