If you want to sandbag/bench rest black powder target shooting - "Make your own damned video!" Thanks for all that you do for this sport / hobby / activity.. .
@@Everythingblackpowder my guess is that if they did make their own damned video, And it was good, And if you saw it. You'd like and follow their content. People are quick to tell others how to do their thing. As a farmer, we used to say that all of us would make more money as consultants, since we each knew how our neighbor could do better. Have a great day.
Here I am, stuck in Wisconsin with my in-laws, and you are out there having fun, science experiments with antique muzzleloading propellant. When you go commercial, I will invest. Thank you for the excellent content.
In my shooting club in Argentina we use wood from a plant called "Manihot grahamii" is also called false coofee, the dried wood is incredibly light and the powder is very fast, it gives excellent results
Appreciate the work you do on these home made powder vids. I'll keep shooting my stash of 20 year old schuetzen and 40 yr old goex. Shhh, don't tell the guvment 😂
So really, what we learn here is that you can cut expensive balsa charcoal with some cheeper cottonwood (if you live in cottonwood country) by 50%, and still get a lot of the benefits of balsa.
I have a memory from when I was a young man of a cloister of monks that made black powder. They had a water-powered mill, that they let run for a considerable amount of time, because the saltpeter came from manure add naturally had some bedding mixed with it that took extra time to grind up. And then mixed it with water, and put it in some sort of container and put a rock on top of it. The image I have in my memory is of a cylindrical shape that resulted in the press. It was then allowed to dry. They then ground it, sifted, and packaged for sale. Whatever was too small they would add to the next batch with the water. This whole process took 6 days. So their mill ran for 7 Days(no work on Sunday). I have no memory on the drying time. And I think the location was in southern France or Eastern Spain and one of the little principalities that are still independent today. I think the story is about why this particular place is still independent today, and how important does powder was!
I found shooting my 45/70 black loads over the chrony just fogged it out,so I backed up another couple yards and it worked. Nice work guys.just discovered your presentation. 🍒👍🙃
I watched a video recently where the guy pointed out that Black Powder is essentially just burning charcoal really really fast. It makes sense that less dense woods and longer milling times help make it burn faster. As the particles of charcoal would be broken down easier and finer with the nitrate mixed in even better. I'd be really curious to see a harder wood known to not make good charcoal for BP under a microscope after the same milling time as a wood like balsa. Like the bamboo which improved greatly from a longer milling time. I really wonder if the ball mill just can't break the particles down on denser charcoals quickly.
I love your videos and I like the way you do things. I probably learned more from watching your videos then all the others combined, I really appreciate it man.
You guys are awesome. Your work is saving me a ton of doing it wrong, and giving me heaps of information to share with people who want to argue. Thanks guys keep it up
The key to success is the best possible dust grinding equipment. Fast and high-quality grinding will cut the research time in half, possibly by a third.
If there is one thing ive learned in my time doing gun stuff, it is that sometimes you get weird, unexpected results that dont make much sense. Perhaps try the 24 hour mill time and see if that gives a high 1600 number. Then we know it was mill time. If we still get swiss velocities, we know it is the charcoal combination for some reason increasing velocities.
I would like to see you make a carbon source from the scrub oak or whatever that is, that's readily available around your range. From watching you guys making Black powder, pucking and milling seems to be what needs to be paid attention to in the process. But he'll what do I know. But If / when I need to make B-powder you guys are who to learn from.Love your videos
I admire your patience brother, there are so many factors to examine in different ratios, different times different materials, the quality of the materials, it's looks like the combination of lottery numbers to hit the jackpot! 👏👏🤝 Just keep going! Good and hard job always pays off!👌
You do you, You out do all the couch critics that complain but don't do shit. Your Videos are Top Rated!! Keep that knowledge and research coming Jake, we're addicted to your channel!!
Great presentation. Isn't it funny how many times in our life we expect the worst from something and yet are pleasantly surprised. But it can also be said that when we predict a great outcome it sometimes falls on it's face. Just goes to prove that the Universe has a sense of humor. Cheers!
I tried mixing good black powder with pulverone, which is about half the density of regular black powder and useless for cap and ball - but I was low on bp and had no use for the pulverone (which is a simple to make black powder used in some fireworks). By volume the mix was maybe 20% good powder. Surprisingly, the pulverone upon mixing became good enough to use - not good, but good enough to plink with. I think that what is going on is the good powder is acting as an igniter and booster for the bad powder and the speed of ignition and burning of the bad powder goes way up, which gives better than expected results. I think the improvement will be more pronounced in rifles. Anyway, what I found is you do not need 50% good powder to get a usable improvement, you can get by on quite a bit less than that. Pulverone powder on its own is completely unusable in cap and ball revolvers but can be used in a pinch in rifles or muskets if you at least double the volume of the charge.
Awesome as always. I'd love to see b.p hunting videos but I know how TH-cam is. Thanks for great informative videos. I've made black powder now but never would have if not for your channel.
I wonder how much documentation is available on how different manufacturers and different countries made their black powder when it was it was the standard.
Glad to see the mixed stuff did well. Seems like the benefit is the ability to stretch out your balsa supply without sacrificing cleanliness or velocity. As always, this opens up a whole new can off worms for testing. First I'd say you need to test just balsa at 30 hours, and just cottonwood at 30 hours, to see if it was the mill time or the mixing that made the improvement. Then there's testing how little balsa you can use before the velocity starts to suffer or the fouling increases. And of course, the endless mountain of carbon mix combinations. If you guys get 2000 fps with 50gr for 5 shots and pull out a white patch, it's time to start your own powder company.
Well done as always. I need to get myself a Flintlock one day. Have a great weekend. And as always post shoot cleaning video for the Snider & the Springfield would be deeply appreciated 😊
That just proves that clogged touch holes can happen to anybody, even you, I love your videos, and I have not gotten around to making my own powder yet, but I will be trying to soon, thanks for all you do for our great sport
Your channel, your video, do it the way YOU want. They can go make their own! I am curious to see how two very good powders improve...if they do. Another great video, thanks for the hard work!
It’s definitely the mill time. Today we tested some cottonwood that was milled for 48 hours and it averaged 1823fps. That’s the most powerful powder we’ve made so far.
Maybe it's like a duplex load and 'good' powder just helps to ignite 'bad' powder so you get closer to 'good' powder velocities. Who knows. Something to think on anyway, EBP. Thanks.
The cottonelle video has had me thinking about why it performed so well. I would think that the wood used was probably not the best source for bp, but of course I don’t know that for sure. I would think it’s more to do with the process it goes through. I’ve not made a lot of bp, but when I did I used willow because I figured it was my best option here in east Texas and it’s readily available. My thought is if it’s the process that makes the tp work so well, what about trying to do something similar with, say willow( or anything really) Let it “age” or degrade to a lighter pithier product to somewhat mimic the tp process then char it and see how it compares to the cottonelle. y’all are the best bp channel out there! Thanks
Why is it that you don't use lube on the revolver? I've noticed in past powder tests in the Navy that the velocities decrease after each shot. The video didn't suck, and I don't have a camera!
Great video, that raises a lot of questions. I feel that retesting all the different powders with a 30 hour mill time would be where i would start to see if it improves all the different types. Then look at mixing charcoal types and comparing. But thats a lot of time and effort...
I suspect, without supporting evidence, that less dense charcoal, like balsa, would probably get to max velocity with shorter mill times than dense charcoal like bamboo or buckthorn alder. You aren't ever going to run out of variations to try!
I too did not expect these results....It's really cool when you do an experiment like this and it kicks your BUTT!! Certainly makes you go HMMMMM...I wonder what other things are going to in a totally different direction. God I LOVE IT...! Again an awesome video. Keep up these terrific experiments, one never knows what we all can learn, THANK YOU!!!
@@Everythingblackpowder I've reconsidered my reply. Different grain densities should produce different burn rates but the overall effect will probably be decreased velocity. It might be interesting to compare standard mill time powder with powder created from two different mill times. Here are a couple of references you might find interesting. This document contains some historical information on black powder manufacturing. miningandblasting.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/explosives_chemistry.pdf This document discusses carbon black (not black powder) and has some source comparison information. The article also discusses the use of "Jet Milling" instead of ball milling. www.eng.uc.edu/~beaucag/Classes/Properties/Books/Jean-Baptiste%20Donnet,%20Roop%20Chand%20Bansal,%20Meng-Jiao%20Wang%20-%20Carbon%20black_%20science%20and%20technology-Dekker%20(1993).pdf
Hey Jake, have you ever substituted a small percentage of your charcoal with aluminum powder? For example instead of the typical 77(KNO3)/13(C)/10(S), you can replace 5% of the carbon with aluminum which gives you 77(KNO3)/8(C)/5(Al)/10(S). I would really like to see the results. I also asked before if you ever used a small bit of strontium nitrate for your black powder. That would also be a cool video idea.
It seems that milling time reduces velocity differences between charcoal sources as that mill time increases beyond 24hours. Would that be correct? Your painstaking work is saving us all a lot of time and effort out here.... Thanks... 🙂
So Jake, this milling longer thing seems like it could potentially be a revelation. Dont know how much testing you have done but are you thinking game changer, or is there info im missing?
It may be Swiss in velocity, but it's cleaner than Swiss and it has only half the velocity spread. The SD on that is astounding.
Im completely hooked on EBP channel
Me too! I really enjoy the "chemistry" and the banter.
Cant believe how clean that patch came out, exelent powder!!! 👍😁
Right?!
If you want to sandbag/bench rest black powder target shooting - "Make your own damned video!"
Thanks for all that you do for this sport / hobby / activity.. .
You bet
@@Everythingblackpowder my guess is that if they did make their own damned video, And it was good, And if you saw it. You'd like and follow their content.
People are quick to tell others how to do their thing. As a farmer, we used to say that all of us would make more money as consultants, since we each knew how our neighbor could do better.
Have a great day.
true Jake shoots real life not anally restricted!!
Best blackpowder channel out there, hands f@(#!% $ down. Keep em coming!!!!!
Glad to hear it. Thank you
"It's all for free" and we immensely appreciate it. Thank you very much.
You bet
Here I am, stuck in Wisconsin with my in-laws, and you are out there having fun, science experiments with antique muzzleloading propellant. When you go commercial, I will invest. Thank you for the excellent content.
Thank you
Hey I'm from Wisconsin! It can't be that bad! Just go to the kwik Trip or Culver's. You'll be fine
@@JASepichunteramen to that! Kwik Trip somehow cures my depression🤣 Those chicken tendies 💪🏻
@@JASepichunter My primary complaint is the in-laws; Wisconsin is an excellent state.
@@richarddean3154 Maybe Culver's will help!
Balsa/Cottonelle must be wicked awesome combo then!
Balsa and cottonelle for the win!
Milled for at least 30 hrs!
The M855A1 of black powder sports propellant.
In my shooting club in Argentina we use wood from a plant called
"Manihot grahamii" is also called false coofee, the dried wood is incredibly light and the powder is very fast, it gives excellent results
Interesting
Excellent video!
Waiting to see cottonelle, bamboo, and balsa in thirds ...
Appreciate the work you do on these home made powder vids. I'll keep shooting my stash of 20 year old schuetzen and 40 yr old goex. Shhh, don't tell the guvment 😂
So really, what we learn here is that you can cut expensive balsa charcoal with some cheeper cottonwood (if you live in cottonwood country) by 50%, and still get a lot of the benefits of balsa.
Sure looks that way
You need to do a 72 hour balsa milling just to see if it gets faster.
Agreed
I have a memory from when I was a young man of a cloister of monks that made black powder. They had a water-powered mill, that they let run for a considerable amount of time, because the saltpeter came from manure add naturally had some bedding mixed with it that took extra time to grind up.
And then mixed it with water, and put it in some sort of container and put a rock on top of it. The image I have in my memory is of a cylindrical shape that resulted in the press. It was then allowed to dry. They then ground it, sifted, and packaged for sale. Whatever was too small they would add to the next batch with the water.
This whole process took 6 days. So their mill ran for 7 Days(no work on Sunday).
I have no memory on the drying time. And I think the location was in southern France or Eastern Spain and one of the little principalities that are still independent today. I think the story is about why this particular place is still independent today, and how important does powder was!
Wonderful story! I thank you for sharing it.
I found shooting my 45/70 black loads over the chrony just fogged it out,so I backed up another couple yards and it worked. Nice work guys.just discovered your presentation. 🍒👍🙃
Excellent follow through at least. No flinch!
Thanks
Amazing how clean that is. I bet the accuracy potential in a cartridge would be enhanced greatly, hint hint.
I watched a video recently where the guy pointed out that Black Powder is essentially just burning charcoal really really fast. It makes sense that less dense woods and longer milling times help make it burn faster. As the particles of charcoal would be broken down easier and finer with the nitrate mixed in even better. I'd be really curious to see a harder wood known to not make good charcoal for BP under a microscope after the same milling time as a wood like balsa.
Like the bamboo which improved greatly from a longer milling time. I really wonder if the ball mill just can't break the particles down on denser charcoals quickly.
Well they are sifting it out and removing a particular uniform size of granules, the fine and smaller than FFFg size grains are not included.
@jacobwilbert1018 I'm talking about when they ball mill the powder, before it's pressed and broken into granules.
@@d3faulted2
Got ya, thanx
Im sorta pumped to see if this is actually applicable or if its some strange fluke. You are probably on to somethin
Man your videos are always awesome. I don't know how anybody could dare complain about information they're getting for free. Thank you.
It’s all part of the show
you guys are the best! Love your videos
Thank you
I love your videos and I like the way you do things. I probably learned more from watching your videos then all the others combined, I really appreciate it man.
You bet
Your videos are rapidly becoming some of my favorites
Glad to hear it
Ahh! The laughter of success! Way to go my friends!!
Just want you to know, it took EXTREME restraint on my part not to make a joke about my touch hole clogging up 🤭
The magic powder, Jake’s Balsaboo! Nice! Thanks Dudes! A good damn good video indeed! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania
Very well done and informative. Thank you - i really enjoyed it.
Glad to hear it. Thank you
Compliments EBP. You have helped me upgrade my BP performance. I am very grateful to you.
@@Diogenes425 glad to hear it. Thank you
Looking forward to this! Thank-you.
You guys are awesome. Your work is saving me a ton of doing it wrong, and giving me heaps of information to share with people who want to argue. Thanks guys keep it up
Glad to hear it. Thank you
Another great resource! I've been tossing around the idea of making my own powder.
Thank you. Glad to hear it
Pretty cool results! Interesting to see if mill time ups other powder’s fps.
The key to success is the best possible dust grinding equipment. Fast and high-quality grinding will cut the research time in half, possibly by a third.
I very much suspect that depending on how long you mill the powder then so the optimal mix changes. Thank you for showing us all of this. Good job.
You bet
A great way to start a Friday! 👍
If there is one thing ive learned in my time doing gun stuff, it is that sometimes you get weird, unexpected results that dont make much sense. Perhaps try the 24 hour mill time and see if that gives a high 1600 number. Then we know it was mill time. If we still get swiss velocities, we know it is the charcoal combination for some reason increasing velocities.
As variáveis são muitas!
It went really good!, maybe mixing balsa/cotonelle TP could outperform Swiss; just my hypothesis. As always the best.
I would like to see you make a carbon source from the scrub oak or whatever that is, that's readily available around your range. From watching you guys making Black powder, pucking and milling seems to be what needs to be paid attention to in the process. But he'll what do I know. But If / when I need to make B-powder you guys are who to learn from.Love your videos
As a swede that only can get my hands on Goex and the like that powder looks like magic!
You continue to be you! Thanks for all you share.
You bet
100 000 followers, congratulations!
Thank you
when you alec baldwin your chronograph, but you aint shooting blanks
😂
I stand behind Baldwin 100%...standing in front of him could get you killed.
Congratulations on 100k subs.
Keep having fun doing things the way you enjoy.
Thank you
Thank you for unique,revolutionary tests.
Happy to help
I admire your patience brother, there are so many factors to examine in different ratios, different times different materials, the quality of the materials, it's looks like the combination of lottery numbers to hit the jackpot! 👏👏🤝 Just keep going! Good and hard job always pays off!👌
You do you, You out do all the couch critics that complain but don't do shit. Your Videos are Top Rated!! Keep that knowledge and research coming Jake, we're addicted to your channel!!
Thank you
That little guy? I wouldn’t worry about that little guy!
Y’all ever try basswood? You know, the stuff you get from hobby stores
Nope
Awesome stuff!!!👍🏻
Wonder if corncobs would be equivalent to the balsa.
I had a thought (
Thank you
Another great video. Love learning from them.
Great presentation. Isn't it funny how many times in our life we expect the worst from something and yet are pleasantly surprised. But it can also be said that when we predict a great outcome it sometimes falls on it's face. Just goes to prove that the Universe has a sense of humor. Cheers!
It most certainly does! Thank you
I tried mixing good black powder with pulverone, which is about half the density of regular black powder and useless for cap and ball - but I was low on bp and had no use for the pulverone (which is a simple to make black powder used in some fireworks). By volume the mix was maybe 20% good powder. Surprisingly, the pulverone upon mixing became good enough to use - not good, but good enough to plink with.
I think that what is going on is the good powder is acting as an igniter and booster for the bad powder and the speed of ignition and burning of the bad powder goes way up, which gives better than expected results.
I think the improvement will be more pronounced in rifles.
Anyway, what I found is you do not need 50% good powder to get a usable improvement, you can get by on quite a bit less than that.
Pulverone powder on its own is completely unusable in cap and ball revolvers but can be used in a pinch in rifles or muskets if you at least double the volume of the charge.
Awesome as always. I'd love to see b.p hunting videos but I know how TH-cam is. Thanks for great informative videos. I've made black powder now but never would have if not for your channel.
Glad to hear it! Thank you
I love this channel.
I wonder how much documentation is available on how different manufacturers and different countries made their black powder when it was it was the standard.
Daaaaammmmnnn! with this mix you can extend the Balsa supply with the cheaper Cottonwood. What's not to like about that? ^~^
Right?!?!
Glad to see the mixed stuff did well. Seems like the benefit is the ability to stretch out your balsa supply without sacrificing cleanliness or velocity. As always, this opens up a whole new can off worms for testing. First I'd say you need to test just balsa at 30 hours, and just cottonwood at 30 hours, to see if it was the mill time or the mixing that made the improvement. Then there's testing how little balsa you can use before the velocity starts to suffer or the fouling increases. And of course, the endless mountain of carbon mix combinations. If you guys get 2000 fps with 50gr for 5 shots and pull out a white patch, it's time to start your own powder company.
Amazing. Love watching your videos, they are addictive and really making me want to start making my own black powder
Well done as always. I need to get myself a Flintlock one day. Have a great weekend. And as always post shoot cleaning video for the Snider & the Springfield would be deeply appreciated 😊
Great video Jake, always look forward to them.
Much appreciated!
@@Everythingblackpowder Your welcome!
I had a feeling you were gonna mix balsa and cottonwood. Very cool!
lol damn. Am I that predictable?!?!
That just proves that clogged touch holes can happen to anybody, even you, I love your videos, and I have not gotten around to making my own powder yet, but I will be trying to soon, thanks for all you do for our great sport
Thank
If that thumbnail is anything to go by, it's looking pretty dang good!
Excellent video... keep'm coming!
Thanks, will do!
Thanks for not editing out the ignition failures. It ads to your credibility and encourages a relatively new guy to flint locks too.
You bet
Your channel, your video, do it the way YOU want. They can go make their own! I am curious to see how two very good powders improve...if they do. Another great video, thanks for the hard work!
Good stuff Jake and Co. keep it coming! By the way I'm gonna keep telling you to try Yucca until you actually do it haha
That's almost as clean as smokeless. I think the long mill time is winning.
It’s definitely the mill time. Today we tested some cottonwood that was milled for 48 hours and it averaged 1823fps. That’s the most powerful powder we’ve made so far.
@@Everythingblackpowder That's impressive!
Maybe it's like a duplex load and 'good' powder just helps to ignite 'bad' powder so you get closer to 'good' powder velocities. Who knows. Something to think on anyway, EBP. Thanks.
Maybe
Didn't suck at all. Great vid.
Pure gold sir!
Awesome stuff as always, and huge prips for putting out for free.
(Still keeping my fingers crossed for mushroom powder)
The cottonelle video has had me thinking about why it performed so well. I would think that the wood used was probably not the best source for bp, but of course I don’t know that for sure. I would think it’s more to do with the process it goes through. I’ve not made a lot of bp, but when I did I used willow because I figured it was my best option here in east Texas and it’s readily available. My thought is if it’s the process that makes the tp work so well, what about trying to do something similar with, say willow( or anything really) Let it “age” or degrade to a lighter pithier product to somewhat mimic the tp process then char it and see how it compares to the cottonelle. y’all are the best bp channel out there! Thanks
Wow! Impressive I think you're on to something!
If i were a powder manufacturer I'd be paying attention to you 👍👍
Why is that?
I truly believe It is the milling time when I mill mine for 36 hours it always gets a little faster and cleaner
It could be just that simple
Thanks again for the great information.
You bet
It certainly says something about mill time.
That's some nice propellant !
We thought so
In my head I see you guys stumbling on to Swiss's exact formula and the guys at Swiss going
F*** F*** F*** F*** !!!!!!
😂
Please perform the same teatime yet with milling 2x or 3x longer. ‘preciate what your doing 👍🏻
Why is it that you don't use lube on the revolver? I've noticed in past powder tests in the Navy that the velocities decrease after each shot. The video didn't suck, and I don't have a camera!
Wow that did great.
Looks like everything is back to square one, maybe the only difference between the carbon source is how quickly it breaks down
Very possible
I really appreciate it!
Great video, that raises a lot of questions. I feel that retesting all the different powders with a 30 hour mill time would be where i would start to see if it improves all the different types. Then look at mixing charcoal types and comparing.
But thats a lot of time and effort...
I usually mix anything I got I just didn't want to say anything probably would have sparked a revolution
I suspect, without supporting evidence, that less dense charcoal, like balsa, would probably get to max velocity with shorter mill times than dense charcoal like bamboo or buckthorn alder. You aren't ever going to run out of variations to try!
I think you’re right
I too did not expect these results....It's really cool when you do an experiment like this and it kicks your BUTT!! Certainly makes you go HMMMMM...I wonder what other things are going to in a totally different direction. God I LOVE IT...! Again an awesome video. Keep up these terrific experiments, one never knows what we all can learn, THANK YOU!!!
Thank you
Another great video
Thank you
something to consider when mixing powers is grain density; you may get improved performance if you have two different grain densities in the mix
How do you figure?
On reflection, I am probably wrong because different densities burn at different rates.
apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA150455.pdf
@@Everythingblackpowder I've reconsidered my reply. Different grain densities should produce different burn rates but the overall effect will probably be decreased velocity. It might be interesting to compare standard mill time powder with powder created from two different mill times. Here are a couple of references you might find interesting.
This document contains some historical information on black powder manufacturing.
miningandblasting.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/explosives_chemistry.pdf
This document discusses carbon black (not black powder) and has some source comparison information. The article also discusses the use of "Jet Milling" instead of ball milling.
www.eng.uc.edu/~beaucag/Classes/Properties/Books/Jean-Baptiste%20Donnet,%20Roop%20Chand%20Bansal,%20Meng-Jiao%20Wang%20-%20Carbon%20black_%20science%20and%20technology-Dekker%20(1993).pdf
Great video!! Do you shoot dry patches?
No
Hey Jake, have you ever substituted a small percentage of your charcoal with aluminum powder? For example instead of the typical 77(KNO3)/13(C)/10(S), you can replace 5% of the carbon with aluminum which gives you 77(KNO3)/8(C)/5(Al)/10(S). I would really like to see the results. I also asked before if you ever used a small bit of strontium nitrate for your black powder. That would also be a cool video idea.
In the 90s, I hauled a load of aluminum powder. It was packaged in big carboys that were picked up with a forklift. It was used in bombs at that time.
what is the limit of milling time where you get no more benefit? great videos keep them coming!
So far I haven’t milled anything beyond 72 hours and it just gets better
I'm very curious, I did it some time ago and it gave me excellent results.
Well that looks very clean I wonder how the pressures are
Thanks Jake
You bet
That's some great powder. By the way a month after you guys posted this video, you get a kameltoe harris commercial.
@@vincewoolley6774 lol ain’t that some shit?! A commie politician running an add on a gun video.
It seems that milling time reduces velocity differences between charcoal sources as that mill time increases beyond 24hours. Would that be correct?
Your painstaking work is saving us all a lot of time and effort out here.... Thanks... 🙂
It sure seems that way. I think it has to do with the density and hardness of the charcoal and how easily it’s incorporated with the kno3
Appreciate your hard work. Good job.
Thank you
So Jake, this milling longer thing seems like it could potentially be a revelation. Dont know how much testing you have done but are you thinking game changer, or is there info im missing?
Seems like a game changer to us