Record Labels Take Note! This Is What Music Fans Really Want!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ย. 2023
- Sometimes it seems that record labels have no idea how to put together good boxsets, greatest hits, and deluxe editions from our favorite bands. For this episode, Anthony and I discuss the things that not only frustrate us, but also what makes for good packaging, content and value when it comes to releasing material from our favorite bands.
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I really like the fact that despite Anthony talking to Brendan, he’s paying attention to his customers in the store and always greeting them. Excellent customer service Anthony I used to work at Blockbuster music and always had to do the same thing.
He always does. The reason the videos with Anthony fade in and out is the store and its customers always come first. We film around him running the store. It also adds some color and character to each video.
That is how good record shops used to be.
The best show of all media platforms! Two fun and entertaining guys who know the music world and have honest views.
Thank you so much!
Agree on most things here but i do like the CD/DVD packages.
I am the 1in 10. I like DVDs with CDs as it is a cheap way to get video footage of the artist that sounds way better than TH-cam.
Why are we all being charged FULL PRICE for unfinished songs and demos in these box sets?
I've wondered this for a long time. With the internet/streaming, why not just put this stuff up for free? Live shows are fine to sell, but the demos I can't imagine listening to more than a few times. And even then, it's more for curiosity than something I would listen to as an album.
Corporate greed. And they are even more greedy during this inflation period we are in.
@@johnmartyn9018 I mainly wait till I see cds at half price books nowadays
I agree about the demos. I will listen to them once, but never a second time.
Because idiots keep buying them I suppose.
I personally believe that 'collectable' box sets are the last vestige effort the record companies have for physical media. We can debate if vinyl or CDs are making a 'come-back'; In retrospect, those mediums are not selling nearly as much as they where 30 years ago - and I don't think they ever will. I love the Beatles and led Zeppelin Box sets - yeah they're not for everyone. I follow most of the CD collectors (Brendon, Sea of Tranquility) on YT and listen to their opinions. They certainly do influence me on musical options or genres to listen (thanks Brendon!). Being in my 50s, I haven't listened to radio in 20+ years; the last physical media I've bought was the Beatles latest anniversary box (Rubber Soul). I've fully embraced digital media, its variety, its abundance and its quality (to my ears!). I always look forward to listening to guys - keep up the nick picking and bickering - I enjoy them!
Great video guys. I'm from the UK and one of my fave all time albums is Who's Next. I absolutely refuse or cannot justify paying £270 for the new box set!! Neither will I buy the 2 cd set for £48! That's almost $60 for a 2 cd set. I have the 2 cd deluxe edition from a few years ago so they can F right off!! 😄🇬🇧
Aloha Brendon & Sound Exchange , Great topic.
Not only are we as consumers not buying these outrageous overpriced box sets as a everyday record Collector does. But these independent record Shops are getting stuck with them. Record Companies think these independent record shops are Museums, RSD was started to help the independent shops to survive & be able to compete with the big box stores. Instead these manufacturers & wholesalers are killing the hands that feeds them. Recently here in Honolulu Hawaii, one of our independent record shops, had a sale on old stock including box sets, which I personally don't buy because of ridiculous prices for items I won't need, except the music. I did end up dishing out little over $1260.00 on this sale. Which also included that Nirvana Box set you showed. It was already marked down to $200.00, so I got it for 50% off the lowest mark down price. For this one I paid $100.00 + tax ,out the door. Just to give an example. I got a great deal, but what about my independent record shop here in Honolulu Hawaii, they won't be around long if this keeps up, as it is here on Oahu we just have this shop that brings in a lot on RSD.
These shops here don't have deep pockets, that's why they had the sale to have cash flow, so they can but for black Friday.
Thanks again for a great topic.
Even if I don't collect Cd's as you do ,I still enjoy these videos.
Looking forward to watching your next video.
Mahalo Ed
Completely agree with you. But these big sharks have no empathy for independent stores. In fact, they would surely love to see them die a quick death. But we, the hard-core music fans, will fight to our last breath to keep them alive. Also, buying second hand and from thrift shops is a huge middle finger to these money hungry labels
I completely agree I wish record companies would come out with these things like they did before
The Zeppelins were great! I also like the Beatles boxes, but they were very expensive too.
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Hello Brendon, I recently discovered your channel, and I have to say that this is the format I'm enjoying the most. Besides the topics, it's the synergy among you that keeps me glued to the video the whole time. I also appreciate how natural everything is, from the intros to the interruptions for phone calls, to the greetings to your loyal customers. Please, never change your approach. Greetings from Italy.
Great review.. yes sometimes you feel a disappointment when you see music industry just want to take advantage of real fans.
It gets very disheartening
The Kiss Destroyer box set, for an example, sold out fast. So appealing to fellow fans not to support overpriced releases is more important. Record companies won't care when these super deluxes are selling well and selling fast.
Not sure why there's hate for a DVD or bluray included when the best sets you showed - Harvest, Whitesnake - also do this. Wonderful live footage, documentaries, behind the recording session, retrospectives, music videos...don't see much of a downside here. Or a 5.1 (which needs a DVD) or Atmos (which needs a bluray) mix? These are wonderful additions.
Raw material costs have gone up in the last couple of years - massively. Everything from energy to food has gone up. When this happens, this sort of product isn't immune. Again, while people continue to support them...listening to fans asking for better prices isn't going to happen.
In the words of Pawn Stars Rick Harrison, "a seller can put ANY price on an item and hope there's a buyer, but if the price is too high, he or she ain't getting a sale from me."
I don't like when a boxset has a cd that combines demos & live songs on the same disc. Separate them & give us the FULL live show not just 5 songs as a filler for the only 5 demo songs you can find. Also no need for fold out posters. Nobody likes the creases & we're adults we don't hang posters on our bedroom wall anymore.
....and give me Jewel Cases!
Agree with a lot of your points - especially now at the point of repeat 'anniversary' boxsets - maybe just release new boxsets in different formats or take advantage of new technology instead of weird musical arrangements that punish music buyers. I get that boxsets are generally more expensive than a standard release, but I know they pack so many of them with useless trinkets that we don't need or want.
As someone who buys CDs, I fucking hate digipacks. They're scum of the earth.
I’m right there with you! I can’t stand them. Give me jewel cases all day long!
Agreed Digi-packs are crap!
Someone’s horn/car alarm was going crazy in the background! Great video as always!
Yes it drove me nuts but I didn’t want to break the flow by stopping and restarting so I just left it in and let it add to the aggravation 😂
Great focus! Really enjoying your videos my friend, been binging on them lately. Don’t even feel like watching anyone else on TH-cam! I’m more and more inspired by watching your videos to dig into some of my old albums and listen start to finish. Went to Pinellas Park Sound Exchange today and didn’t find that Head Cat album unfortunately. Gonna keep looking!
best video ever Brendon! this is exactly how I feel.
Glad you connected so much with this video. It is a pretty confounding topic.
Great back and forth. Totally agree with you guys. I typically don’t purchase box sets anymore because of the expense unless it’s a band like KISS that is my absolute favorite band.
Really enjoyed the video. You guys are 100% right on everything you said. Record labels have found a new way to gouge fans with these super deluxe box sets. But history dictates there’s a bubble for everything, and it’s only a matter of time this trend comes to an end and people get fed up and stop paying the inflated prices. Not sure when it will because labels are making these “limited releases” so in order to guarantee you get them you have to almost pre order them at the expensive price they sell them for.
Glad you guys brought up the GNR UYI box set. I’m a big fan and have had it sitting in my Amazon cart for months waiting on a price drop. It’s still retailing for $255 on Amazon Canada, at record stores I’ve seen it priced anywhere from $313-$340. Even at $255, for what you’re getting it’s not worth it (2 albums you have already, 2 live shows, a book and a bunch of junk you’ll look at once and never look at again). Brendan mentioned the same thing about the Kiss box set. I can’t justify spending that much money on it.
I think this issue is much bigger and more people have it than anyone really realizes. That’s been something I’ve really started to notice in the last couple years since running my channel. I pray some record labels take note.
Classic rant at 24:30 mins by Anthony,so funny,but so true for many hardcore collectors
He cracks me up!
Hi Brendon. I wanted to write you a message of appreciation, but I wasn't sure which vid I should do it on. Just generally I'd like to say that I enjoy your vids nearly every morning with a coffee. It feels like hanging out with a music bud that is way more open-minded than me.😊 I really like your attitude with Canadian music in particular. There's not an ounce of condescension or smirking when discussing Canuck music, unlike almost every other US based channel. 😊 I also really dig these videos with Anthony. I know dudes just like him. He's unfiltered, committed, opinionated with a reason, and a great value to this channel. This particular video is so relevant to the industry as I feel alot of the time the consumer is unheard by the labels and manufacturers, and we get alot of absurd, bloated, out-of-touch, vanity-based products that aren't very fan friendly. Maybe if you make more of these someone in the industry will catch on, and try to set a new standard for consumer friendly products. Keep doing great work.
Your friend 😂
Ryan
Hi Ryan, thank you so much for your letter of appreciation. It means a lot to know that the video content that I’m making and how I present the information is connecting with you. I’ve attempted to gear my channel towards areas that I felt were missing on TH-cam. When I would look for content on TH-cam and before I created my channel I didn’t find much that resonated with me. So the channel was an attempt to make the content I wanted to hear and see and hopefully the same way I felt it was missing, others would feel the same way and be happy to find it. I’m glad you’ve found it and I’m glad you’re a part of it. Thank you.
Good rant dudes . I don't buy boxsets , but if I did I appreciate the advice .
Personally, my favorite box sets are ones like ZZ Top’s, which collect their discography to a point in time in a space saving box. It’s a great way to explore a catalog for a reasonable price. I don’t want demos and I can live without the unreleased music. I don’t want DVDs or 5.1, and I especially have no interest in the miscellaneous junk that are sometimes thrown in.
I like boxset's but they are often too expensive. I do buy them when I really want them and it has stuff that makes it worthy. Great video and topic. 🤘😎🤘
Hey anthony (brother) and Brendon (brother)
I am so so so looking forward to Diamonds and pearls-prince. I am gonna preorder the 7 cd-1 blu ray box and 2 lp clear vinyl. im a huge prince fan since 1988. Great takes in this video. another super video.
mike
friend from canada eh!!
Eh! It’s Mike From Canada! 🖐️
Just my opinion but I am a fan that loves Vinyl and CD's. The Replacements, Tim release and others like it are exactly what I am looking for. Thanks for the video.
Even the car horns are angry in this video! Lol
😂😂😂
Loved this video. Do you think we can get a tour of Anthony’s record and gear set up?
That would be an Anthony video but he does not have his own TH-cam channel yet. Maybe someday!
LOL!!!! You guys are the Best!! Great topic
This was awesome you 2 have it all correct. I bought Ghost Impera extended box set for $190 it had 2 lp’s 1 sided live EP with side B etched, and a freaking 7” single of the song I really wanted “Stay” unreleased, side B is Etched. Also has 22 page thick bound photo book, Die cut album jacket that lights up, a wax seal Kitwith candles, Ghost Stampers with wooden handles, 18” x 24” poster. I just wanted the single “Stay” but it’s the only place you can buy it. There is a 2nd 28 pages booklet as well. I have box number 0793 of 2200 that were made
Hey Brendon, I appreciate that you don't let record companies off the hook for price gouging. The price of records is out of control and it's ruining the hobby for many people...music should not be this expensive.
Great discussion! As for the live shows, bands should do what Kiss are doing with the Off the Soundboard series and release live albums separately, instead of putting them in a box set. Def Leppard released their 1983 live show at the L.A. Forum as part of a deluxe edition for 'Pyromania' and that drives me nuts because that was a good live show and unfortunately, there aren't any stand alone live album releases with Steve Clark. I'm not a big live album fan, but I'd kill for a live show from the Steve Clark era of the band. And despite how popular the show is, Def Leppard never released a live album for 'In the Round, In Your Face' separately from the 'Hysteria' box set and I have no idea why!
I do love a good box set. Last one i bought was the george harrison all things must pass 8lp. Greatful dead live shows and taylor swift coloured variants. Love them all. I hear your pain. Stuff is getting expensive. I do buy what i really enjoy. But i stream alot of music because of the cost. I also have a love hate relationship with physical media. That's why my cds ended up in cd folders. Thanks for the video. Great stuff.
Interesting topic guys, I agree with every word. Unfortunately if you are a massive fan of an artist you really are going to buy the box set knowing you are being ripped. From my experience managing record stores in the 1980's, record companies don't give a shit if there's money in it.
To be fair guys, the Jethro Tull sets have gotten much bigger overtime. Thick as a brick and aqualung were literally one cd and one DVD. The one you’re holding up today I believe six CDs and two DVDs. So I don’t think it’s so much then raising the prices, but us getting more product. I do agree with everything else you said. I am a massive box set collector and I have been since the days of CrossRoads and Bob Dylan’s biography. But once they start charging $400 for a minimal amount of music. I am not paying hundreds of dollars for plastic cars and marbles? I bowed out. I love surround sound music, especially in Dolby Atmos. But I’m not buying a $400 box set for the privilege to listen to it. I hate using streaming services, but Apple is my only option for this until these companies realize that we’re not made of money. Great show, as always, guys.
To be fair I wasn’t comparing the bigger 8 disc boxset to the smaller 6 disc boxsets. But the cost has gone up from the 6 disc boxsets of equal content. Also the comment was meant as a generalization and not a specific instance. Just pointing out that even good boxsets with lots of content that are similar in size have also increased in price whether inflation or record label greed.
my weird tales of the Ramones box set is my favorite design. I wish more bands had done that style. It fits so nice on a bookcase, it has everything labled on the back, plus a comic. I think I might have paid 30.00 back in the day.
If you got it for $30 then you got a steam because it was $80-$100 when it came out and for 3 CDs I didn’t feel it was worth it.
Love this off the cuff music rant
Yeah it was a lot of fun!
this is why i don't buy cd's or records anymore. I have no room in my small apartment, and I can't afford them. So I just pay 10 bucks a month for Amazon music and just stream thousands of albums. I know i won't get the cool boxes and stuff, but all I really only care about is being able to listen to the albums.
23:05 speaking of Track by Track: I think the estate of Tom Petty did an awesome job in the 4 cd box then I bought the stand alone Finding Wallflowers (alternative Versions) they did a great job with the tracks and letting us know about the songs.
I was bummed with the Ratt release of their first four Atlantic albums. I’m not much of a collector of stickers, replica backstage passes, and other gimmicky filler like that. I wished there were bonus tracks, unreleased songs, demos, live tracks, etc.
Okay my story is simple. I have “all” 8 Genesis Boxsets plus the made Phil Collins Box. Phil’s Box came with Face Value and Both Sides (my personal favorite by him) and go through the months collecting all of the consecutive albums after that. THEN after I finished the Box then go ahead and re-release all the albums as a full boxset with all albums included catch 22 was it was just the albums no 2nd CD’s with it. But I do not care what they want for it because I have the album that I collected over a time. They want me to pay for the full album collection again, after I paid roughly $160.00. Forget about that. And that’s not what I’m saying here but trying to keep it PG not PC 😁 unless there’s an boxset coming out that can give me bang for my buck you’re out of luck. That’s all for now Brendon and Anthony. -Your pal Bill-
There are three or four box sets I would love to have but I refuse to pay the prices. I always keep my eyes open for discounted items, but they don't come along very often.
I LOVE getting a DVD or blu-ray with a CD set. A lot of times it is a concert which I would have to buy separately at a higher cost. Sometimes you can buy just a live concert blu-ray or dvd by itself and it is cheaper than the CD set with the same audio by itself. But with the DVD you get the visual as well as the audio.
These are the conversations I have with my friends all the time... except it is one way! I"m OK with the CD boxes, but they buy the vinyl boxes. I pay 1/3 or 1/4th the price for the CD box.... and then you have the Bob Mould box. You get like 16+ CDs in one box for $150 but you need to spend close to $500 to get all the vinyl boxes that feature the same material! Oh, dear. My brain hurts...
In agree if I am a buying a box set as a vinyl collector I want records not cds and I don’t need stickers and newspaper clippings I want vinyl and a nice boom with photos and a nice easy to read as I spin my records.
You guys are so fun and right on the money with your rants. I don’t need all this extra crap and remix this and that . Then stick a ridiculous price tag on it and see this suckers will bite. Was thinking about the 30th In utero and said no it’s not worth it for me. I’m fine with the copies I have and could not justify for me.
It’s happening so often now. I see the announcement of a new deluxe edition or boxset and get excited until I read the content and get sticker shock from the price leading me to pass on it. It’s like gut punch when you want it but it’s really not worth it.
Exactly same for me!
You guys make some great points. One glaring example for me is Paul McCartney's Archive Collection. I went back and looked on Amazon, the series launched with McCartney, McCartney II, which I paid $49.99 each for, and Band on the Run, which cost $63.99. The most current release is Flaming Pie from 2020, I paid $278.18. That is quite a jump. They have made the sets bigger, added more swag but still that is a crazy jump.
The sad thing is us McCartney fans are waiting for London Town and Back to the Egg, really the two main albums yet to be released. And I will buy them at $250 each like an idiot but McCartney is my favorite artist.
$250 for one single CD? No thank you. I will completely pass on that. Ridiculously high price.
The Flaming Pie box which cost $250 did contain 5 CDs, though they all had room to fit 15 minutes or more of music, another thing I hate with certain sets. But it has been 3 years now, us fans don't even know if the series is still going or not. We all just want London Town and Back to the Egg and then Paul can end the series.@@davej.meister5421
@@mikemclintock3893 5 CD box set for $250? Are you kidding me? That's $50 a CD. Dude, that's totally nuts! It's your money. I'll continue to spend it wisely on music that's affordable. I will NEVER spend $250 on a 5 CD box set. No way in hell!
Oh trust me, I understand where you are coming from. The Flaming Pie box was tough, due to the price but also because solo McCartney is my favorite music ever. I would take his solo work over his Beatles work. Crazy, I know. If it wasn't McCartney, I wouldn't pay it. Like the Kinks packaged Muswell Hillbillies and Everybody's In Showbiz into a $300 box, with only 5 CDs I think and some vinyl. I love both albums but said nope and bought the single CD version of each.@@davej.meister5421
I've got all Paul McCartney's Super Deluxe Collection from the beginning and stopped at Flaming Pie! I'm not going to buy that!
I still play cassettes in my car. I just ordered the new OMD on cassette. I don't really do it for any reason I almost got rid of them many times. The kids are digging them for some reason. I also play and stil buy 7" records. I'm not a fanatic about it, it's just part of the collection.
I am all with you guys on these ridiculous packages and prices. You can be a diehard fan of the artist or band, but I do not believe that there are that many who spend their hard earned cash on just one band and not want to have money left to buy more music on other artists/bands that they love.
Great show with some great rants 🎉…..
Great video. I refuse to buy these overblown over priced boxsets. Seems every album is celebrating some anniversary and releasing a boxset. I would prefer they turn to albums out of print. Love the Who, do I need a 10 album boxset of Who's next? I have already bought more times than I care to remember. There are so many out of print great albums I would spend money on, but I REFUSE to buy another copy of an album I already own just because it is remixed with outakes and demos, things will listen to probably once and never again.
It's a shame so few people are open to NEW music. There's a lot of great new music out there, mostly ignored.
Yes most people just want what they know and aren’t interesting in exploring something new. It’s really too bad.
@@BrendonSnyder And I still love the music I grew up with, from The Monkees to Creedence to Chicago to Alice Cooper, and then the 70s, 80s and onward. But nothing thrills me like hearing something new that tickles my love for music - drop it into the car and go for a drive. Still love that. And sometimes I think, I'm 65 now, and they'll still be putting out great new music after I'm gone that I won't be able to hear. LOL
Hard to believe people are buying the same records over & over every 10 years lol.
I don't need to rebuy an album I already own. What I want to see is more archival releases. The Stones have been doing a great job releasing different shows from various points of their career. And the best thing about the Stones is that their setlists are not repetitive.
For those artists that do chug out the same old 10-15 songs each time, I would love to see a release of live rarities. Take AC/DC for example. Each tour they bring out some new songs, but most of those get retired pretty quickly. So it would be great to have live versions of Put The Finger On You, COD, Fly On The Wall, Go Zone, etc. Same with Maiden. We've got some for each of these artists but nowhere near complete.
If you are going to rerelease a record I would like it in its original form and maybe with some b-sides or live shows along with it. If not a full show then live versions of some of the songs from that record.
Demos... meh... unless it is something different like AC/DCs Dirty Eyes (the precursor to Rosie) or even their Touch Too Much which was completely rewritten, I don't need them.
Will we ever get Brendon AND Anthony with Pete on Sea of Tranquility?
I gotta take a drive down to Sound Exchange soon
Yeah come on down and check it out. Anthony has made lots of improvements so it’s always getting better and better!
This is one of the best episodes ever on here! I’ve been watching for a couple years now and this what I just heard……Bitch, Moan, Complain, I’m still going to buy it though. Bitch, Moan, Complain, I’m still going to buy it though. You two are the best!!!!!!! You are the reason we get crappy crap! “Bitch, Moan, Complain. I’m still going to buy it though”. HAHAAAAA
Thank you….I think?! 😂👊
I'm not a big fan of box sets, most I got are from my favourite band, of (at the time) new releases. I don't like the idea of having to upgrade anniversary box sets. I'd be much happier if they just came out as replicas of the original box, rather than throwing on some "newly" discovered material. That way it gives those who missed it the first time a chance, and those who did get it don't have to buy it again.
If I buy reissues it's either the only way to get an album, or it comes with exclusive, interesting material. The Falkenbach collection box is one that was worth paying extra for, since it came with two legendary demos, restored to CD from the old tapes. I also like the Hammerfall reissue series; it comes in compact clamshells, is inexpensive, and contains plenty of extra music.
What I don’t get why the Billy Joel camp only released with a Blu Ray and not a dvd with the re-issue of Yankee Stadium show. You lost a sale.
The Hellacopters on the background :) How much are these going for?
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just wondering, have both of them, sub pop and white jazz versions@@BrendonSnyder
Yeah, the boxset thing has gotten way out of hand. Nobody really wants guitar picks or stickers or postcards any of that nonsense. It's just junk you feel obligated to keep in the box in case you decide to sell it later on.
As for books in the box, again, yeah, give us lots of details from the musicians and engineers about how each track was written and recorded. I actually love reading about a track while listening to it, and I love it even more if I have to repeat the track because I haven't finished reading the section about it yet.
Speaking of the overpriced Dio boxset. They couldn’t just do his whole discography or another album or two?
$200 for 4 albums is absurd. At least with the Deicide boxset that I paid that much for I got their first 7 albums released on roadrunner records, a live album, their first EP, giant poster, and these big stickers.
Granted there were no lyrics sheets/liner notes for any of the albums. But at least I felt it was worth the price. Considering some of those albums were hard to find on vinyl.
I stay away from Kiss and never buy anything from them new.
Just get the 2 cd sets or the Live Sound Board CDs only. Simple!
They also did a boxset of Ace Frehley's 7inches
I own 0 boxsets (dust collectors, space invaders)
Couldn't care less about "bonus material"
(crap that wasn't good enough to make an album)
Don't want demos, out-takes, live crap, remixes, etc.
Don't want 2lp 45rpm either
Its ruins the flow of the original album.
Don't want to flip and change a disk every 12mins.
Give us a discount on your concert tickets or priority in the cue, something actually useful an experience not just stuff.
$100 for Black Crowes 3cd Southern Harmony 30th..f’n ridiculous!!
Is that the new reissue singles soundtrack awesome
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I just wish that some record company will release Eddie money brand new day on cd and LP. Even if liberation hall records who released Eddie's covers cd, buy the rights to brand new day and release it I read that Eddie's widow, Mrs $ was going to release a deluxe edition of brand new day. Cool .. where is it? It's a great album that deserves to see the light of day. That's my rant! Take care
Including a 7" is never a selling point for me. Sometimes I'll buy them, but they just seem out of place in a boxset.
I don't need remasters or box sets. Sonically, I can't tell the difference from the original anyway. I dislike bonus tracks (because tbh they were usually left off the album for a reason). And don't get me started on do-dads like programs, guitar picks, backstage pass replicas - just more shit that I'm going to end up throwing away.
The recent Black Sabbath Live Evil box set was not done right IMO. Just release the remix with the booklet!
Great video. Very interesting🤘 🇬🇧
Hells Headbangers is the best label ever!
I posted here yesterday with a positive revue. For some reason it has been deleted. I do not understand the reason for this. It was a brilliant video focusing on a serious subject which brightened up my day . There were some funny parts that made me laugh. The issue of price is important to me. The new Bob Dylan live at Budokan a point in question. A 4cd set Japanese only release. It is £165. How can that be justified.
I don’t know. Are you sure it posted?
Maybe something went wrong. Anyway the video was great. I just don't get the direction the labels are going. £165 for a Bob Dylan 4cd box set. It is out of my price range. I have about 7000 cd's but the collecting is slowing down. Cherry Red box sets are the best for quality, content and price. @@BrendonSnyder
You are so Funny Guys
Unpopular opinion...I like having different sized and designed boxes for different albums/content, a la the Beatles recent super deluxe editions.
IS IT JUST ME OR DOES THE SOUND EXCHANGE GUY REMIND ANYONE ELSE OF JASON PRIESTLEY FROM 90210 lol
Metallica does good with their boxes. LP, CDs and download card for all of the music.
I wonder if the increase of costs lately (in the US at least) is due to inflation? With other things such as food going up in price, I imagine music is affected as well.
Yes it is. But it really is no excuse as they have pointed out in this video, Most record labels own their own pressing plants and the cost of them to manufacture should be very very reasonable for them. So they are already price gouging regardless but they are really taking advantage during this period of inflation the states are experiencing.
It’s a really scummy thing to do to fans of the music but most of those people in upper management at those record companies most likely don’t give a flying shit about fans just the money.
@@braindeadrichard They can own their plants, thats nothing to do with international price rises. Energy and food prices have soared, that pushes everything up. The cost of the raw materials has gone up, the cost of keeping a plant open with electricity has gone up, the cost of logistics and transporting the products has gone up.
While, of course, there's always price gouging...there are economics to consider too. "Really no excuse" doesn't cut it.
What do I want..? I want my albums to be undamaged. Whether buying in-store or online, whether LP or CD, I am sick to death of seeing nearly every single f..g album with damage of some description.
box sets don't interest me!
Most of these record companies are run by people who are not really music fans thats why we get all the crap in these box sets .
If you have the Cult 7 cd boxset from awhile ago, it has the contents of the that worthless cassette. I have all of The Cult stuff EXCEPT that big boxset.. not worth it!
The entirety of the demos from Sonic Temple are not on the Rare Cult boxset.
@@BrendonSnyder no, but the contents of that cassette are on the box set. There's no unreleased material on that cassette to make the purchase even close to being worth it.
Don't have a cerebellum stroke! People may never understand what you're trying to say. I should stop commenting, it's not working for me.. lol
This is nothing different than any collectors market, be it Action Figures, Comic Books, etc. The problem is the fans not the record companies. They will do whatever is the cheapest to make and can charge the most for. They will also do things that is completely illogical, because the love to piss off true fans. They have a resentment for their own fans like most companies! Whatever you want, they will do the opposite, because they hate you but want your money. That said, fans are dumb enough to follow along and open their wallets like pavlovian dogs. It comes down to this, like I tell any collector. If you want change, vote with your wallet! don't buy it and they will eventually kowtow!
I’m sorry it doesn’t work that way. There is always someone willing to buy it. So by me not buying it do anything except keep me from getting what I want. However, there have been items I’ve skipped because the content wasn’t there. All we’re saying is if the record companies put more thought into it there would actually be more money to be made.
@@BrendonSnyder You're right, I don't know how it really works. It's just the feeling I get when I see stuff go down on a constant basis. If it looks poisoness, smells poisoness and tastes poisoness, chance are it's...Poisoness. But you are absolutely right. The operative word is "think". Which I don't see any company doing. The ultimate goal is constant growth and to please the share holders, so getting "all the money" would be paramount, however, like you guys both said, I see them dropping the ball constantly when the clear lay-up is so obvious a toddler could see it, but still they somehow screw it up in the long run.
@@BrendonSnyder I do have a case in point, but not from the record industry, but from the toy industry. Hasbro, the biggest manufacturer of toys, specifically action figures, which are marketed to the adult collector and not kids (kids don't play with action figures, at least not expensive ones). They had recently started doing windowless packaging to, as they say cut back on cost and relying on harmful plastic (even though the figures are made of harmful plastic). The market spoke with their wallet and Hasbro saw an immediate loss of 40% in sales. The immediately pivoted, admitted that it was a mistake and corrected the error, so they said. Production is 1.5 years ahead of itself, so the rollout would take some time to be seen on the shelves. This is a clear case of where a billion dollar company makes a terrible decision which results in record losses which the toy community has been very vocal about and they were forced to steer the ship back on course. Has it worked, we still don't know, but my point is resisting the urge to buy something, because your not happy with the quality, presentation, etc. will result in the manufacturer taking notice and responding. Again, this is just one industry, but Toy collectors, video game collectors, comic or even records all have the same essential behavior. We want what we want and if the company doesn't produce, we walk. I don't know, and here is my opinion, it feels like CEO's are either clueless, which begs the question, how do they have their jobs or, they actively resent their customers and simply don't acre, because despite a loss in sales, they still make billions. Disney and Star Wars is another case in point! I assume, record companies are subsidiaries of major corporations, so like other companies in the same situation, Marvel, Luscasfilm, etc. They need the customers not the other way around. if they make enough based on what they produce, then why change anything. Again, we have the power to change their decisions, but to many people just blindly buy whatever crap they sell. I guess if customers are starving for product, they will eat crap.
I don't like demos or stickers or other things stuffed in a box. I'm talking about the KISS boxsets. Not even worth buying those. The live stuff and a write up on that particular performance is what I want. Everyone loves capitalism but complains about how it works! 🙄
We’re not complaining about capitalism. I have nothing against it and love that we get to experience it. The complain is what is choose as the content and how it’s packaged and the cost. We don’t have an issue with the cost if the content and packaging is worth it. 👍
@BrendonSnyder sorry, the stroke I had doesn't always let me say things right. I'm just saying these record companies will put anything into these sets to make money. I just want to listen to music. Sorry again if that came across wrong. Believe me, there's no aggression in my words..
We must stop to buy these overpriced boxset and who needs to buy a boxset on 10 cd for one album with The Who - Who Next???...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Apparently I do 🤷♂️
😂😂😂@@BrendonSnyder
Dear Brendon And Anthony, I experienced the same frustration! Fortunately I stopped buying these huge boxes soon. There are too much memorabilia on these box sets that we don't care! We don't want that Single! Bonus DVD Videos are nice but we don't want useless extra DVDs! Oh, Foams! I've got only one; John Lennon big box with Foams and I don't like it! Now I'm so selective about big boxes and super deluxe editions.
For Us Fans of Music, It is very important to check the size, contents and details of a Box, before purchasing it! I collect only Japanese Mini-LPs, Japanese Digi-Packs and Compact Boxes. Size is Very Important to save space for more records... When I started collecting CDs on 2008, I thought about Space & Quality! I didn't buy a Jewel Case CD or an import-to-Japan box set; unless it was something very special! Of course, a few mistakes! It's OK! I learned.
WE WANT MUSIC! More Music on a compact Quality one! So... Buy more and more records from your favorite artists or even unknown artists on various music genres and styles, but Never buy the same music on a huge box! Big Mistake!
Great Videos, Thank You Brendon!
box sets don't interest me!