I'm going to be honest here: This book should be used as a shield and not a sword. It should be a tool to identify people who are walking red flags and run away from them, rather than using it to become the ultimate red flag. Like I've mentioned in another comment here, I've read the book up until rule 20 I think (I'm taking a break from it) and it's actually interesting to see how some of the rules apply to many influencers and youtubers, not because those people are skillful in the art of manipulation but because they are probably acting a certain way unconsciously yet toxic. Once you stop seeing this book as a recipe to "be powerful" and use it as a reference to avoid certain people, it becomes useful.
That's exactly what I thought. We can actually learn a lot of good out of this book! Because if you know how those people that crave for power over you think, it will be harder for them to manipulate you 🤌
Yeah. But thats LITERALLY what the author also stated to use it can be for those who seek power AND most important is it for everyone to know it to PROTECT THEMSELVES. I think this review is REALLY cherry picked and painted in a bad light on purpose while the author himself (who he is bashing) actually just states the pros and cons with using those tools in the first pages.
this books seems like that scene from meet the robinsons where michael is “everybody hates me, i’m an out caster” and his colleagues are actually very polite and friendly
Know evil but don't be evil. That was my take on this book and I read it when I was sixteen. Here's the interesting part, a friend of mine read it as well same age and we had extremely different takes on it. It's not about the book, it's about the person reading the book.
My general take on this book is that humans, generally, are both power seeking _and_ social creatures. Everyone wants some amount of respect and authority, and everyone wants some amount of helping others and being a positive influence in the world. _Some_ power seeking is healthy. A little bit allows you to accomplish your goals, and not be pushed around. Too much of it, and you're a jerk, not caring who you step on on your way. This book feels evil because it's just talking about the power side of things. Without diving into care or morality, the book is unbalanced. But, having read it, my take is that this book isn't trying to be balanced, it's just knocking out one variable and talking about just the power side of things with, in my opinion, offering a pretty good summary of the history of the literature on the topic and historical examples, while using the "Laws" as an interesting literary device to create larger categories and themes. Some people are going to read this and notice the bad behavior in others, and use it to protect themselves. Others are going to read this and maybe not do something dumb in their own lives, like a new hire for a non-profit thinking the best way to get respect is to publicly point out the mistakes the director made in her presentation. But I don't think that the intention of the book was for people to follow all 48 laws completely, with no respect to morality, even though I'm sure there are a few people out there who will do that.
There's a book called Success Secrets Of The Elite, it talks about how using some secret techniques you can attract a lot of money, it's not some bullshit, it's the real deal. Great video btw
I have autism. As someone who struggles to understand others intentions, reading Robert Greene has been really helpful. Robert Greene even explains in interviews that he wrote the books to help protect good people by understanding the manipulative behaviours. I understand that the books seem very toxic, but the reality is a lot of people are toxic too. We must protect ourselves from letting the wrong people into our lives.
Does autism blurrs your perception Please tell me because i suspect i have autism. And have a great difficulty understanding intentions I struggle certainly at work On the outside i seem intelligent and confident . No one would believe the struggles of my life
@@cherp5837 not really, it might make you miss a detail while you find another that nobody else has ever seen... Do you understand why is it so hard to diagnose autism? It's cause the spectrum is so large, meaning something can be seen as Asperguers or as a personality trait... Your POVs doesn't always mean anything
lmao i actually got this book recommended by a boss when i was an intern, but not in a “follow these rules” type of way, more in a “you are smart but too naive so you gotta be careful with the people that follow this kind of stuff” type of way
If you try to read about the author then you'll find out that the purpose of this book is exactly what your boss said. Robert Greene's life was full of such power hungry people and that's why he wrote a book about them. This video is mocking Robert Greene because that idiot has completely missed the point!
Wow man could not belive it until i check it out, they really have around 250 books for 19.99, was planning on ordering 48 laws of power and just that 1 book was 23 bucks... def check it out
I read this book earlier this year and kinda liked it because it reminded me of a lot of people I know who clearly use this book as a bible. In many ways it helps you recognize certain patterns in people and in return helps you protect yourself and understand their behavior. Yes, the book will tell you to always assume people are out to get you but think about how people in positions of power think. If this is how they think, now you know where it comes from, now you can recognize what they want and why they move the way they do. It’s all in this book. If you dont approach it as a guide or as super deep, its a very useful book for protection.
Which is why Robert Greene wrote the book. He researched and observed how the power hungry live their lives to seek and acquire power. He's never intended it to be a manual. He was asked what would happen is somebody used the book as a bible and he said, "they will live a very miserable life where everybody is just a tool or an obstacle. That's no way to live."
Exactly this. That's how I approached this book as well. Haven't read it in many years, but I recall it being quite helpful, definitely not as a "how to" or to go looking for these so much as helping recognizing and dealing with encountering some of these things in real life so as to avoid or deflect manipulative behavior. Definitely not a book for everyone though as I think it takes a certain mindset to read the book in this way, and it's certainly easier for one to completely throw out the baby with the bathwater, plug their ears and declare "it's eeeeevil lalala" than to learn from Robert Greene's examples/stories/exceptions.
This, I agree. The book has a very toxic mindset however it's very helpful in what you mention about finding patterns in other people's behavior. It has helped me to dodge many bullets but also, as a content creator, I have been able to identify red flags in youtubers, influencers, etc.
It's perfect for designing fictional villains. For wordsmiths who want a nearly cartoonish description of a villain,. I recommend this book LOL. It's up to the reader to digest it and apply it, but I recommend using it like a craftsman would. Instead of doing research by actually speaking to a narcissist, why not this? Awesome book for research.
The fact you recognized you know people like this, THAT IS THE POINT. It's not because they read the book, the book exists to explain these people, and how they think, as they are all around us.
I believe manipulation is in human nature and there have been so many deceitful, manipulative and sociopathic individuals long before this book and they still do exist. They know how to do it with no help just fine. If you don’t know what deception looks like you risk falling prey to it.
In reality it is used by middle mangers who in the end can't even charm Betsy in the Accounting department and they are bit creeped out by his eye body language and boundary invasion.
The book saved me from being manipulated by different people and over the years. The book is for matured mind who can take good decisions or else you will become a Psychopath.
I work at a bookstore and I often judge people that buy this book/ask for this book. Most of the time it's a very specific type of guy that brags to me about being very good at sports/being very successful in their career. Also 2 out of the 5 times someone perceived my helpful retail attitude as flirting they were buying this book. Dude, I am not flirting with you, just doing my job.
Great video, Jack! 'The 48 Laws of Power' is such a fascinating read, especially with its controversial history. For anyone interested in exploring more thought-provoking books like this, I've found some hidden gems on Nixorus that dive deep into similar topics. Definitely recommend checking it out!
I feel like the owner of one of my previous workplaces (that no longer exists, incidentally) attempted to use these tactics, but ultimately failed because it made people dislike him before his business was big enough for him to afford to be like that.
@@daniel626 I've never seen power make someone happy, just like I've never seen money make someone happy (not that there's much difference between the two in modern society). That wealth and power lead to happiness is the kind of thing people who are poor and powerless think, but it in no way reflects reality. Ultimately it just means more risk, more responsibility, and more enemies or, in short, more stress.
@@daniel626 I grew up around the upper classes and went to a New England Episcopalian boarding school. I have a considerably larger sample size to draw on than your personal life experiences and I can assure you that the upper classes are the most messed up, ill adjusted group of people in this country; and I doubt a single one of my former classmates would agree with your assessment. Money solves life's easy problems: food, clothing, shelter, etc. It is one of life's pleasures to address these basics, why do you think hunting and architecture and fashion are so popular amongst the upper classes? It does nothing to address the more difficult problems in life and, if anything, makes them more difficult, upper classes circles are full of psychopaths, narcissists, and social climbers, none of them trustworthy nor particularly pleasant to deal with. All the sensible people tend to retire to country life at the first opportunity and have nothing to do society or the acquisition of power.
He's crazy about power it truly shows especially since he wants to be a president. I mean man first go take care of your health and save your family from breaking lol then think of running the country and oh might as well take care of that nok existent career built off bullying people l.
"Except the readers of this book aren't bombing London. They are probably just finance bros who work for JP Morgan". Holy shit, Jack. This line fucking killed me
as someone who is working for JP Morgan.... ouch. I work at the overseas part of JP Morgan. Can u please let me know what is the general view that Americans have on the employees of JP Morgan.
@@mikanchan1408 It's talking about a certain "finance bro" persona that exists in the US. It's nothing specific about JP Morgan, but rather the archetype that he is making fun of. Likely not targeting you at all, don't worry.
THANK YOU my brother has been watching Andrew T*te, reading THIS BOOK, the four hour work week, rich dad poor dad, and it’s been turning him into a terrible person. Thank you for this I am going to send him this video
I think there are 3 ways u can use the book. 1. Ignore and question why. 2. Learn its ways 3. Learn to recognise its ways, identify it in people and learn ways to protect yourself from being taken advantaged of. Im very happy that you havent experienced all that in people. I unfortunately recognise some of the ways the book mention in people although they were probably doing it unknowingly. This book has been quite helpful in understanding why people do things the way they do.
Exactly! I have the same knee jerk reaction in a way: just live! Just be happy! (dont read this book). But unfortunately, for many people "just being" means a miserable existence due to whatever happened to them in life. Wanting to aspire to this level of power then isnt surprising. This book could probably describe the majority of people and why they do bad things. No one is immune to this as long as your environment pushes you hard enough.
I read this book when I was having a hard time with a toxic friend and I think it helped me. Not beacause I got power over them, but beacause I recognised the person in this book. You did make a good point in this review, but I think it was a good book to teach you to be more aware of others manipulating you.
I’ve only heard praises about the book and so am thinking of reading it. I’ve watched some videos of Robert Green and he seems such a calm, respectful and intelligent person. That intrigued me more. Will see. Anyway, what I got from this video is what my usual reason is for avoiding most book communities on social media. Just typical anti-intellectual attitude…. And ppl thinking they’re “too cool” for this stuff or for reading self-help books as a whole. I’m tired of this.
I feel like this book is best read as a defense against people who use these tactics. I see it as a safety measure. It can give you advice on how certain people think. Then again, it is a strange book to read, and people could easily learn from it and use it themselves
Also, I wouldn’t judge someone for liking or enjoying this book. They probably have their own reasons for liking it and their own interpretation of it, that isn’t about manipulating people. I’m personally trading in my copy of the book. I personally didn’t find it too interesting and I felt like I didn’t really need to know any of what was in the book; but if someone enjoyed it then that’s good for them
There's a book called money's hidden magic, and it talks about how using some secret tehniques you can attract a lot of money, it's not some bullshit law of attraction, it's the real deal
Oh so that’s why it’s banned from prison! It’s not because it’s enlightening or makes master manipulators… it’s just such a terribly bad take on life that they really shouldn’t be spreading that message for people turning their lives around
Its not a take on life, it's an expose on the disgusting nature of power and the people who chase absolute power that can help you against a manipulative spouse or boss, and catch red flags in manipulators easily.
@@PaperMario64 you can't stop people from being who they are. But hopefully if someone like that reads it, the book makes it apparent of how sad and soulless a life of a person like that will have to be if they actually took this as a guide-book.
Not gonna lie but this book helped me figure out how some toxic people think so it’s easier for me to avoid manipulators. I loved it. It really helped me. Believe it or not but some people believe and live life by these standards
If you are facing adversity that you do not believe you can overcome, this book is worth your time. I wish we all lived in a world where this was not necessary, but that's not the case. People will try to take advantage of you, take power, take control. Knowing how to leverage power and play your cards right so to speak can save you and others.
U r right BUT, let's not kid ourselves. The book wasn't written to protect people from manipulation. The book tells u it's intentions and tells u how it's trying to get u to act. It tells u to be manipulative and often, not as a reaction to an abusive individual but as a 1st mover. So the protection argument is Garbaggio
I have this book at home. I actually found it useful coz it helped me identify certain behaviors that I consider as red flags. I’m also quite shy and I find it hard to stand up for myself sometimes, so this kind of gives me a sort of shield that can help me face different kinds of people.
I read this book many years ago and I think it's written from the perspective of someone who grew up in a society where power, status and money were still viewed as the goals of life (boomers and gen x) and it was believed those 3 things can be obtained by taking them from someone else - that's how the bosses of our parents got to their positions of "power". For our generations, the goals of life are different and we have also grown up thinking more in terms of collaboration over individual power.
Don't be fooled. Power is still the priority for all generations. Collaboration is nothing new, you can't have high levels of success without it. The goals in life are the same for all generations and always will be, that is to have a purpose and be rewarded in multiple ways by it. Boomers and gen x's were of their time and did what was needed in that context, much like every other generation, including yours.
@@BlackCoffeeee you may be right... Though the desire for influence, fame and all that have taken it's place you could argue it's just another form of power... one that looks more "acceptable" because it's not "imposing" but it's still power in the end
I dont think so, for me it was it came from the most loser individual, and extremely deprived for power and inferior for himself. Im talkin about ultimate loser, when you came from the bottom you can literally observe those who came from the top, then learn their weakness, strategy to surpass them, one step at a time, until you reach the top. For me this book didn't give me any new ideas/learning and i thought it was a normal knowledge , it only confirmed that my perspective was natural. A natural born Machiavelli, in fact this book is heavily influenced by The Price from Machiavelli.
the publishers did a REAL good job in making it look evil. as a graphic designer, my biggest impression of this book after listening to your 20 min review is the awful red typesetting in the shape of tbe cloud. actually audibly gasped when i saw it
I thought the type setting was actually the best part! it's hard to fit the text in like that! A great deal more interesting than a bland, black block of sans serif
@@comaOOO "hate speech laws" shouldn't even exist, because we should have free speech as long as we're not deliberately misinforming people, and this book contains a lot of truths about how people use power dynamics to their advantage. the formatting thing is debatable, as the book is a neutral look on power, and power on itself means danger giving the content of the book.
It's been stated by the Author that the book is more so a manual for those who are weak to the manipulations of those who perform the 48 laws of power naturally. A sort of "defense against the dark arts," if you will.
I agree with this reaction: Who walks around having opponents and enemies? I'm sure even the people who *think* they have enemies, don't actually have them. But the idea of having an enemy feeds their sense of self importance. Most of us are not that central to anyone's life. But their biggest nightmare is not being important enough to hate.
That makes sense. It doesn't sound like the book is telling you who to be. It seems like the book is pointing out human psychology any how it is used by those who understand it to control the world around you. Sorta like scientific laws manipulate the physical world. Understanding why you are sunburned can help avoid it in the future.
Are you a psychologist? Because, I am. I don't *littrally* look for such things while diagnosing "most of subjects". Understand, difference between machiavellians, psychopaths, narcssists and other common ego related plights. Machiavellianism is a personality trait centered on manipulativeness, callousness, and indifference to morality. It is not a "disorder" of any kind of illness. Since, it is part of dark triad it is sometimes helpful. This book majorly elucidates on, machiavellism. In these recent centuries, it is a NEED to BE a little cunning. We, NEVER recommend to be a selfless insecure timid worm. Because, that is BIGGEST sign of potential illness, or doomster sign of future. You are not wrong, and you will gain more experience soon, if you continued to live naive. If you have ever lied, well. Yes, you are a having certainly a personality disorder :) (saying with irony)
@Raghvendra Singh Sengar Thanks for your comment. I'm a lawyer, FYI and in an area of practice that requires reading and understanding various kinds of psych reports and rubbing shoulders with the people who create them. I appreciate your perspective and putting a finer point on things. It's probably worth going further and saying that having traits in common with aspects of a personality disorder is not the same as having one (not every bad act is a disorder, people are capable of making bad choices too). And that, I think closer to the point I was trying to make, knowing this stuff for self-defense doesn't make it good. If you are in a position to avoid or shun a person who acts like this, 8 times out of ten you'll be happier not associating with them than you would be by handling them skillfully. These kind of people are so draining to work with.
@@grantstratton2239 I don't know why your comment puts a smile on my face. Because, you are indeed correct; And I can't deny your justifications. Yet, this doesn't points out any flaw with the knowledge articulated in the book. It is knowledge, a tool, depends on the way you use it. And for some reason I feel you may have frivolously skimmed the book or, haven't fully studied it. But it's great to see that there are still nice people left, who aren't just chasing power, authority, money, and other extrinsic goals. Lawyers are indeed practical psychologists. I have never met a lawyer who is not a master of behavioural psychology (which I mostly enjoy studying) and also the book goes into the insights of some roots of it
@Raghvendra Singh Sengar I get your position too. I just think from the perspective of someone who wants to be good and have positive relationships, there's plenty of "white hat" advice out there for handling difficult people. Bill Eddy is an author that springs to mind as an example.
Tbh after researching about robert greene, watching his TV interviews from years ago, as well as his recent appearances on podcasts, I've realised he himself isn't that cunning or power hungry, but his books make him come off that way. He says he writes books for the underdogs in the world who are trying to figure out the evil people of the world and understand their tricks. But yes, i also think this book could be used by people with antisocial tendencies/manipulative traits to exploit people more for power. I've seen such people use this book to do that; acquaintances i know who want power because they say themselves that they felt victimised in life. This book is extremely polarising, that's for sure. I feel like it should've also talked about showing compassion, empathy and love to your loved ones; that would've balanced it out a bit. Loved your review of it though. Made me see how extreme this book is with its laws. I hope to see you review more famous self help books and share your thoughts on them 💜
Anything that's supposed to be discussing owning your own power with a set of laws sounds super fucking cultish. I'm sure Greene had good intentions writing the piece, however, people owning their own power and loving themselves is defined by personal set of laws one sets out for themselves. You cant be told how to acquire powers you cant be given power. You create power and hold onto it.
@@tanah6962 It's good to know about these "laws" to identify when people try to do it to you. If you are a decent person, you wont take this book as a recipe book.
I guess the approach in the book is like a next step when people start understanding you can't always win by just being compassionate and kind. That's like John Wick's movie: the man did nothing wrong, but people came and killed his dog. Should he then try to be compassionate to the murderers? Yeah, maybe, but the plot is more cruel and people still love it.
This book helped me a lot in catching red flags in people. Robert Greene does not insult your intelligence by reminding you that these are not ethical tactics, he just lays down the facts as to how manipulative people behave, and if someone is reading this book to gain power, it also exposes how sad and pathetic of a "life" they are going to lead. Unfortunately, instead of furthering the conversation of the disgusting nature of power, some people are going to fixate on the fact that this is not the key to happiness (duh!) and shame everybody that find this book helpful in any way.
To be fair a lot of books are banned in prisons. I worked in a bookstore for a long time and we had a list of books we couldn't send out. And we had to tell everyone sending books to jail that they might be sent back after inspection. Also no hardcovers. I met Robert Greene once and he was a very quiet and shy person, unremarkable actually, and wouldn't really talk to me. But I have found that most "self-help" authors (at least the ones I've met) are messy and not at all like their books.
Interesting observation from the ones you met. Sounds like there could be projection of whatever the authors feel like they “should” be doing- it’s easier to write a book about it than become all of those things that they’d wish to change maybe
@@Benlavine It's probably the difference between insight and action. I suppose one can be rather insightful but have the inability to take action themselves
The book to read is "How to Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie. Which when I first picked up I thought was going to be like this book, a manual for manipulation. But it's not, it's the exact 180 deg opposite: How to get what you want by making people happy and giving them what they want, and by being the best version of yourself to bring out the best in others. Changed my life and improved the lives of people around me who got a better version of me out of the deal. I reread it every year. Highest recommendation. Not only that but it really works and you get all the god things the Laws of Power promises, but by being Lawful Good instead of Chaotic Evil.
My mom gave it to me when I was 14 because I couldn’t make friends and she thought it was about making friends. But to me it’s not really how to make friends but about people pleasing. And for some reason it made me a bit uncomfortable because it can help certain people thrive through what they need to do but when you want to have genuine friends it feels too complicated and a one way relationship. One good thing about this book though is that it made me more self aware in a way..
What makes you think that isn't manipulation. Using peoples emotions good or bad is manipulation. Whether you like it or not we're all subconscious or conscious manipulators, successful or unsuccessful. Creating a stigma around isnt going to help the fact that you need it to excel in one and every aspect of life.
I read that book and I liked it. Not because I am trying to manipulate people and gather power( only 5-7 "laws" are useful and civil). But, because I and a lot of people I know are naive. We need to know how sociopaths think to properly defend ourselves. Because of this book I noticed the shadows of political candidates and abstained my vote.
“These people walk among us and I’m scared of them” That’s kind of a reason to read it though… I read it more as “these laws exist and people use them to their advantage whether you like it or not. Hating the laws doesn’t make them not exist. Knowing them helps you identify them” Instead of “This is how to destroy anyone you like with my blessing MUHAHAHA” I think the “how to” structure was more of a stylistic choice to add to the “READ AT YOUR OWN RISK” vibe which is silly but brilliant from a marketing standpoint. I didn’t enjoy the experience of reading it either but it’s been invaluable for identifying and shutting down psychos I’ve encountered in my life that DO abide by these laws either consciously or not. As a shield, I absolutely recommend.
I think that if you heard Robert Greene conversations with Jordan Peterson or Ryan Holiday, you will understand why he wrote that kind of book. From what I know, he wants you to be prepared for the world, because those kind of attitudes appear everywhere in the industrial/comprtitive world that we live on, and if you can recognize them, maybe you won't spend a lot of your time and energy badlym
If you find the laws morally repugnant good lol. You have basic modern morality. Read the book anyway and have a dialogue with yourself on why you disagree with it or what values you hold. Ever book doesn’t have to be taken at face value.
happy birthday to the walking green flag, to the man who revived my love for books, whose taste in literature is immaculate, and who always makes me smile with his cute little book jokes and puns. happy birthday, Jack! wish you many fascinating novels and just an eventful life!
Part of critical analysis is to maybe not have an emotional gut reaction. You didn't like the advice that was being given but you now have a better understanding about how people with power think. Some women watch crime shows to learn about how to survive. I am interested in this book because I want to understand power and what it does to us. I have also read, " The Art of War " and " Civil Disobedience " and it didn't change who I am or how I think. Love books and wish I had a copy of this one.🙂
The book was never meant to be a “how to”. Greene himself has said it’s meant to learn what others are doing to manipulate you so you can protect yourself.
@@d818581dd what do you mean? In order to teach people how to protect themselves against manipulation, you have to tell them what it is and how it’s used. You need actual examples. Which is what the book does. Manipulation isn’t going to work (or is less likely to work) when you know the tactics people use. What other way would you propose we teach this? There’s no round about way of doing it in my opinion.
I once watched a video called "how to ruin your life". I recognized where in my life I was following the advice in the video and tried my hardest to stop. I am now living a pretty awesome and fulfilling life. Moral of the story is, you can teach a lesson from different angles. This book is basically defense against the dark arts. If you listen to Robert explain his reasoning behind the laws then it makes a lot more sense. There's a lot of this going on in the real world and being aware of it is a sort of power in itself.
Here's a possibly interesting thought: in my personal experience, coming to the realization that there is darkness within me was deeply empowering as a recovering people pleaser and someone who grew up indoctrinated to be an absolute "good girl" and basically an object to a husband (for religious reasons). It humanized me. It made me much more aware of my responsibility towards myself and others, but it also allowed me to see that there was a much wider range of possibilities for me to exist in and tools to defend myself in a world that is constantly trying to confuse my relationship with my personal power. And because life is messy and not perfect, my learning journey has been too. But being able to access that darkness has been crucial in order to, precisely, identify it in the people who have harmful intentions toward me and others. And even have some fun while bringing some justice! I'd love to know what you think.
Giving into this kind of darkness is not a tool for recovery, but would turn you from a victim into a perpetrator of abuse towards other people. This is book should not be a guide for healing. There are healthy ways to defend yourself from people that doesn't involve manipulating, lying and all the BS preached by this book. Cognitive therapy really works for this.
I agree that we all have these tendencies within us and it's better to recognize them, than to pretend they don't exist. (It's funny: As a guy, everyone assumes that we have that darkness in us from the start, until it's proven that we don't) I also agree with the comments that this can't be used for justice; it's like putting out a fire with more fire. This competitive/domineering side of humanity is only one side - there's also the co-operative/egalitarian side that David Graeber talks about.
The sad part is that a lot of people are exactly how that book describes. In fact, we are probably surrounded by those kinds of people and that's why the book is so popular. Also that is why humanity is in the situation it is.
I could imagine, it’s a bit like a shark tank. If you find yourself surrounded by such ppl, your only option is to become like them to “out-exploit” them, or to leave.
That's why he wrote the book. If you look up his backstory. He wrote the book so readers can become aware of toxic, ego-driven, manipulative people. This book is to be used as a self-awareness guide. A shield, not a sword. To protect yourself against the laws of power so you don't get used by them. Sound a bit wishy-washy but it's the direct truth.
This book is for people who need power, who have enemies, who own business with employees, who don’t live in day to day norms. For the average person who works a 9-5 job or wants to live a normal life will not understand this book. They do not need to. They don’t need to worry about people betraying them or trying to convince people to do things, or needing people to fear them. Unfortunately, kings, queens, politicians worry about war and do their best to abuse power and put fear into people who they know wont beat them. These power laws are real, i myself have used a few and noticed how people treat you when you use them. I think people don’t like this book is because they don’t understand it. You don’t have to. Confidentially saying not many of us are kings or queens or politicians who need to appear big or scary to intimidate their enemies. They decided war, we don’t. Be grateful that this book is for our knowledge, and not necessarily mandatory for our lives. We don’t need this book in our lives. But…. When you read this book, you will always be thinking about it. And if you chose to use it, people will eventually respect you. Always respect them of course, but use what you need from these laws. You don’t need all 48. Id say the most important law is , “reputation is everything, guard it with your life.” Sit down and think about yours. Are you happy? If yes, congratulations. If no, use this books. You can fix it. Like i said this book is not for everyone. I personally loved it and I’ve been able to implement it into my life in a healthy way. With great power comes responsibility -uncle Ben. How responsible are you, and what are you responsible for?
I'm about 2/3 of the way through this book and the conclusion I came to is that this book can be used for good or evil, depending on who's holding it. As someone who wasn't the most socially adept, I finally gain some insight into social behaviors that always seemed like "unwritten rules" that everyone was privy to but me. This book mostly taught me how to protect myself from manipulative people, and how (without malicious intent) use some of these laws to increase my value in certain situations (mainly professionally). For example, hiding how difficult something makes you seem more talented. Or to leave while they're clapping. That's quite benign, I've seen that in the majority of the laws, except for the few that stick out as being cunning and evil in whatever way you twist it. I think everyone should read this book. It'll help you navigate the chaos of social life better, especially if you are/were naive and assume everyone has a good heart like you.
Okay you’re literally the first person who has said what I was thinking 😭 like I’ve heard so many summaries and positive reviews but I’m like “damn this kind of goes against my morals. I’m not so sure if I want to intentionally use people…” glad it’s not just me.
The Prince was written as gift to Lorenzo de Medici, the current noble ruling Florence at the time of the writing. Lorenzo belonged to the Medici family who had been rulers of Florence for several generations, and were no strangers to ruling with cruelty, manipulation, backstabbing, and treachery. Look at the opening of the book and you will see a dedication to Lorenzo. It was intended as advice on how to manipulate and control the common people, adversaries, and even allies with the sole intent of remaining in power.
I read this book and high school and found it quite interesting. I really don’t think it teaches you to be manipulative but definitely does review some very manipulative and depressing people. It’s such a fascinating look into history and psychology. Odd and a weird change of perspective.
totally agree! i just wrote a similar comment few minutes ago. It's not a book to encourage those behaviors, it's here to explain them. It's actually cultivating more critical thinking when looking at power figures in general.
This book really serves as protection. It was meant to point out what goes on in society and how you can benefit or protect yourself from it. I have 2 copies of this book at home
"what's the actual point of having power...if your life sucks?" made me laugh lmaoo. But actually a really good point. I feel like a lot of people focus so much on "being successful" in a traditional sense that they lose out on the joys of life.
I'd actually be vaguely curious about reading this book for writing purposes. It seems like an interesting window into how such people think and it's always useful to have more such windows when you're trying to write a variety of characters, including ones with unhealthy mindsets such as are apparent in this book. Otherwise, throw it in a fire and let it burn in hell.
I do believe that it's more about recognizing walking red flags. Sometimes we are naive enough to fall for people's games that have too many toxic behaviors, and books like this can help open your awareness to all the shady people out there.
I've seen his interviews about the book, and he says it should be used to learn how others try to manipulate you, so you can recognize it and avoid it. He's not actually trying to teach people how to be manipulative
I once worked for an awful personal trainer. Here was abusive to his clients. One day I found this book in his library and understood that he was doing it on purpose. I stopped working with him that week.
As someone who has read his books, this one included, I do appreciate the kind of person you are, who looks to promote positivity and spread happiness and good virtues. Definitely stay being you, we could use more of such people in the world these days.
i used to work at a bookstore and all the guys who bought this had the same vibe😂 i can't explain what it was, but when they would come up to you and ask where to find Robert Greene's books, internally i was like "hmm go figure"
Thank you Jack for going through the pain of that book so none of us have to. It seems like the subtitle for this book should be "A Handbook for Sociopaths".
ive read this one years ago and I find it dark. Always tells someone to be critical before picking it up. There is a big possibility that one person will follow this from page 1 until the last page by heart. It's more of knowing how the vicious people think and move but you don't wanna be one. :)
I work for the government and I don't understand the political environment of my job, but this book help me in addition reading never plit the difference and the art of hunting human really helped my navigate (mostly avoid politics in my job)
The point of the book I think is to become aware of power structures and how power is wielded and used that's what I took away from it not to necessarily become power hungry. Unfortunately there is a lot of abuse of power and it made me think of the different power structures at play in the world in that way it can be a useful read. Your review is indeed entertaining and I do agree with your thinking but I think the book is more to breakdown power in the world for a normal like me so we aren't so easily swayed by it
I always thought the way he writes in a sinister way was for comedic purposes. I still think it. I don’t think he was being serious when writing about enemies. The audiobook seemed so dramatic and cartoonish. If you watch his interviews, he’s such a sweet guy. 🤷♀️
I agree with the top comment. The correct lens to view this book through is not in understanding "how people SHOULD act" but rather "how people DO act". We've all absolutely met someone who would follow this book to the tee, ironically by deconstructing these "laws to power" you learn to take away power from those who would act in bad faith. It's not meant to decide how people should be, but shed a light on what they can be. If that was intended or not is up for debate though.
@@adamcraig1468 Adam, you aren't "making an impact": you're just being an asshole. You can influence people's opinions without making them hate your guts.
I'm going to be honest here: This book should be used as a shield and not a sword.
It should be a tool to identify people who are walking red flags and run away from them, rather than using it to become the ultimate red flag.
Like I've mentioned in another comment here, I've read the book up until rule 20 I think (I'm taking a break from it) and it's actually interesting to see how some of the rules apply to many influencers and youtubers, not because those people are skillful in the art of manipulation but because they are probably acting a certain way unconsciously yet toxic.
Once you stop seeing this book as a recipe to "be powerful" and use it as a reference to avoid certain people, it becomes useful.
Wow! Such a positive,useful insight! ✨🙌
You wrote what I was thinking. Thank you!
That's exactly what I thought. We can actually learn a lot of good out of this book! Because if you know how those people that crave for power over you think, it will be harder for them to manipulate you 🤌
This. Bcos I heard 'Kanye' & immediately thought *NO MA'AM* 🚩
Yeah. But thats LITERALLY what the author also stated to use it can be for those who seek power AND most important is it for everyone to know it to PROTECT THEMSELVES. I think this review is REALLY cherry picked and painted in a bad light on purpose while the author himself (who he is bashing) actually just states the pros and cons with using those tools in the first pages.
this books seems like that scene from meet the robinsons where michael is “everybody hates me, i’m an out caster” and his colleagues are actually very polite and friendly
Lmfaoo I see that completely 😂
“They all hated me” LOL
I think his name is goob
@@Jeff_isAverage i had toe google the movie because i didn’t watcher in english and i think it said his name was michael as a kid, but maybe i’m wrong
@@orpheous9405 his name was Michael agoobian
Know evil but don't be evil. That was my take on this book and I read it when I was sixteen. Here's the interesting part, a friend of mine read it as well same age and we had extremely different takes on it. It's not about the book, it's about the person reading the book.
Isn't it always. This, same as any work of literature (exceptions being scientific, I guess) is up for interpretation.
My general take on this book is that humans, generally, are both power seeking _and_ social creatures. Everyone wants some amount of respect and authority, and everyone wants some amount of helping others and being a positive influence in the world.
_Some_ power seeking is healthy. A little bit allows you to accomplish your goals, and not be pushed around. Too much of it, and you're a jerk, not caring who you step on on your way. This book feels evil because it's just talking about the power side of things. Without diving into care or morality, the book is unbalanced.
But, having read it, my take is that this book isn't trying to be balanced, it's just knocking out one variable and talking about just the power side of things with, in my opinion, offering a pretty good summary of the history of the literature on the topic and historical examples, while using the "Laws" as an interesting literary device to create larger categories and themes.
Some people are going to read this and notice the bad behavior in others, and use it to protect themselves. Others are going to read this and maybe not do something dumb in their own lives, like a new hire for a non-profit thinking the best way to get respect is to publicly point out the mistakes the director made in her presentation.
But I don't think that the intention of the book was for people to follow all 48 laws completely, with no respect to morality, even though I'm sure there are a few people out there who will do that.
Exactly
Same with the prince by Machiavelli,,,, it could be read as a satire, it could be read as an self-help book, lol
The same way with Bible and religious scripts. The interpretation reflects the person (or at least, the state of mind of the person).
There's a book called Success Secrets Of The Elite, it talks about how using some secret techniques you can attract a lot of money, it's not some bullshit, it's the real deal. Great video btw
Bullshti
@muschnik2712 Did you read it?
@@adi78212 you cant get a physical copy anywhere
that book is not on either amazon or flipkart where did you buy it from?
@abimmanyupuri7135 You can find it on Google they have a website for the book.
I have autism. As someone who struggles to understand others intentions, reading Robert Greene has been really helpful. Robert Greene even explains in interviews that he wrote the books to help protect good people by understanding the manipulative behaviours. I understand that the books seem very toxic, but the reality is a lot of people are toxic too. We must protect ourselves from letting the wrong people into our lives.
I never read the book but I heard there are good things in the book.
As people with autism/ADHD are the most likely to be victims of narcissist and sociopaths it is a very good for identifying those people.
Does autism blurrs your perception
Please tell me because i suspect i have autism. And have a great difficulty understanding intentions
I struggle certainly at work
On the outside i seem intelligent and confident . No one would believe the struggles of my life
@@cherp5837 yes, it's a trait of autism. Although often we will mask such traits so that others don't realise that we are different
@@cherp5837 not really, it might make you miss a detail while you find another that nobody else has ever seen...
Do you understand why is it so hard to diagnose autism? It's cause the spectrum is so large, meaning something can be seen as Asperguers or as a personality trait... Your POVs doesn't always mean anything
“normalize critical thinking” A LITTLE LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK
Yes!!!!
Yes Yes p.s aliens 👽
Scream it out!!!!
*NORMALIZE CRITICAL THINKING*
was that loud enough or do I need to bold it as well
@@sosyl bold as well
lmao i actually got this book recommended by a boss when i was an intern, but not in a “follow these rules” type of way, more in a “you are smart but too naive so you gotta be careful with the people that follow this kind of stuff” type of way
That's actually quite clever?? I think??
that's actually pretty wholesome
That's respectful!
If you try to read about the author then you'll find out that the purpose of this book is exactly what your boss said. Robert Greene's life was full of such power hungry people and that's why he wrote a book about them. This video is mocking Robert Greene because that idiot has completely missed the point!
thats actually rlly awesome
Never thought Id be so unnerved and terrified of a self help book. Chicken soup for the soulless indeed
He said it’s a cult classic but all I kept thinking is how it resembles the cult leader’s manual 😂
It's a great insight actually. You can use it to learn some counteractive against manipulation 💅
@@raf1717 YES . This book is to be used to understand how bad and predatory people think so good people can fight back .
Read the book for yourself
It's funny how frightened by reality so many people are.
Antozent- they are selling around 250 self help ebooks for the price of one (including this one)
it’s kinda crazy how nobody’s talking about Antozent, they are selling 250 self help books for the price of one
Wow man could not belive it until i check it out, they really have around 250 books for 19.99, was planning on ordering 48 laws of power and just that 1 book was 23 bucks... def check it out
I read this book earlier this year and kinda liked it because it reminded me of a lot of people I know who clearly use this book as a bible. In many ways it helps you recognize certain patterns in people and in return helps you protect yourself and understand their behavior. Yes, the book will tell you to always assume people are out to get you but think about how people in positions of power think. If this is how they think, now you know where it comes from, now you can recognize what they want and why they move the way they do. It’s all in this book. If you dont approach it as a guide or as super deep, its a very useful book for protection.
Which is why Robert Greene wrote the book. He researched and observed how the power hungry live their lives to seek and acquire power. He's never intended it to be a manual.
He was asked what would happen is somebody used the book as a bible and he said, "they will live a very miserable life where everybody is just a tool or an obstacle. That's no way to live."
Exactly this. That's how I approached this book as well. Haven't read it in many years, but I recall it being quite helpful, definitely not as a "how to" or to go looking for these so much as helping recognizing and dealing with encountering some of these things in real life so as to avoid or deflect manipulative behavior.
Definitely not a book for everyone though as I think it takes a certain mindset to read the book in this way, and it's certainly easier for one to completely throw out the baby with the bathwater, plug their ears and declare "it's eeeeevil lalala" than to learn from Robert Greene's examples/stories/exceptions.
i agree with you
an amazing way to approach this book
This, I agree. The book has a very toxic mindset however it's very helpful in what you mention about finding patterns in other people's behavior.
It has helped me to dodge many bullets but also, as a content creator, I have been able to identify red flags in youtubers, influencers, etc.
It's perfect for designing fictional villains. For wordsmiths who want a nearly cartoonish description of a villain,. I recommend this book LOL. It's up to the reader to digest it and apply it, but I recommend using it like a craftsman would. Instead of doing research by actually speaking to a narcissist, why not this? Awesome book for research.
Agreeeeee
That is actually such a good idea, I kinda wanna get my hands on this book now
@@amandak.4246 Yes. I was in a relationship with one and.... (shudders)... I'd rather read about them.
I was taking mental notes for my dirtbag protagonist while watching this! So glad I’m not the only person who thought of this.
Thats a great idea. Genius
The fact you recognized you know people like this, THAT IS THE POINT. It's not because they read the book, the book exists to explain these people, and how they think, as they are all around us.
I believe manipulation is in human nature and there have been so many deceitful, manipulative and sociopathic individuals long before this book and they still do exist. They know how to do it with no help just fine. If you don’t know what deception looks like you risk falling prey to it.
Yes. That’s how I’ve used it.
Maybe he is stupid, he can't see a book mention something without thinking it's directly advocating it.
Yup
The better you deal with power the better person you become
I think this is a good guide on how to write a good psycopath in a book.
I was thinking the same thing, maybe an emperor type character.
Absolutely. I have a character in a book I’m currently writing who’s a sociopath, and this book is very helpful, haha.
Actually there's a light novel and anime adaptation titled Classroom of the elite
In reality it is used by middle mangers who in the end can't even charm Betsy in the Accounting department and they are bit creeped out by his eye body language and boundary invasion.
@@vivianton
Does Lelouch from Code Geass count?
The book saved me from being manipulated by different people and over the years. The book is for matured mind who can take good decisions or else you will become a Psychopath.
Damn is it that powerful😮😂
Exactly!
Knowledge isn't evil; the evil is when you use it with evil intent.
Exactly, this is a bad book for beginner readers
“Not surprised this book is red because it’s a huge red flag” 😂😂 I already know this is going to be good lol
I was like did someone in America wrote this?
Roger Stone taught it to Trump, because Trump can’t read. 😛😺✌️
i *do* have an enemy: this book
Why aren’t you posting these days Damon? I miss you, hope you are doing well ❤️
Obviously, you must immediately hire the book to work for you, then.
love you damon
ariana what are you doing here
@@shmesaalrawahi3492 💀💀💀
I work at a bookstore and I often judge people that buy this book/ask for this book. Most of the time it's a very specific type of guy that brags to me about being very good at sports/being very successful in their career. Also 2 out of the 5 times someone perceived my helpful retail attitude as flirting they were buying this book. Dude, I am not flirting with you, just doing my job.
ugh I hate men like this
when I worked at a bookstore, this book was very popular with military men
Those are the men that also listen to Andrew Tate
I also work in a bookstore and that was exactly the comment I was about to make
@@booksandwine6245 Those are also the strong men who build all the infrastructure and buildings around you too
Great video, Jack! 'The 48 Laws of Power' is such a fascinating read, especially with its controversial history. For anyone interested in exploring more thought-provoking books like this, I've found some hidden gems on Nixorus that dive deep into similar topics. Definitely recommend checking it out!
i Agree man, they have great stuff, all recommendations
I feel like the owner of one of my previous workplaces (that no longer exists, incidentally) attempted to use these tactics, but ultimately failed because it made people dislike him before his business was big enough for him to afford to be like that.
“What is the actual point of having power if your life sucks” Powerful quote by Jack
Does it? 🤔
Does his life really suck?
@@daniel626 I've never seen power make someone happy, just like I've never seen money make someone happy (not that there's much difference between the two in modern society). That wealth and power lead to happiness is the kind of thing people who are poor and powerless think, but it in no way reflects reality. Ultimately it just means more risk, more responsibility, and more enemies or, in short, more stress.
@@daniel626 I grew up around the upper classes and went to a New England Episcopalian boarding school. I have a considerably larger sample size to draw on than your personal life experiences and I can assure you that the upper classes are the most messed up, ill adjusted group of people in this country; and I doubt a single one of my former classmates would agree with your assessment.
Money solves life's easy problems: food, clothing, shelter, etc. It is one of life's pleasures to address these basics, why do you think hunting and architecture and fashion are so popular amongst the upper classes? It does nothing to address the more difficult problems in life and, if anything, makes them more difficult, upper classes circles are full of psychopaths, narcissists, and social climbers, none of them trustworthy nor particularly pleasant to deal with. All the sensible people tend to retire to country life at the first opportunity and have nothing to do society or the acquisition of power.
@@costakeith9048 true
The fact that Kanye West loves this book just makes so much sense…
He's crazy about power it truly shows especially since he wants to be a president. I mean man first go take care of your health and save your family from breaking lol then think of running the country and oh might as well take care of that nok existent career built off bullying people l.
Sure, he’ll say/do anything for clout and this is prove his methods are effective
@@Nonexistent_Music yeah such a clout chaser thinking he owns the world
@@nobodyelse7911 he has a billion dollars and you're typing TH-cam comments..
@@viola308 and how does it matter? Lol as if you ain't typing comments and having a billion makes you a better person?
"Except the readers of this book aren't bombing London. They are probably just finance bros who work for JP Morgan". Holy shit, Jack. This line fucking killed me
as someone who is working for JP Morgan.... ouch.
I work at the overseas part of JP Morgan. Can u please let me know what is the general view that Americans have on the employees of JP Morgan.
@@mikanchan1408 It's talking about a certain "finance bro" persona that exists in the US. It's nothing specific about JP Morgan, but rather the archetype that he is making fun of. Likely not targeting you at all, don't worry.
@@andrew_240 I see,
What's the finance bro persona?
Is there a finance sis too?
@@mikanchan1408 It's like,"GO CAPITALISM! WE LOVE MONEY, SCREW THE POOR!", "fuck the wage gap, talk about Brittany's thigh gap", cocaine addict.
Quran readers are bombing the World and Numerous innocent people.
it's banned in prison because they've been punished enough as it is
😅
i can't this is hysterical
😅
They came to the concepts in the book naturally, and that's how they landed in prison.
i love reading readers talk shit lmao
Jack: “Normalize critical thinking”
Also Jack 5 secs later: “I read this book so you don’t have to”
He skimmed through. Its obvious it wasnt actually read haha.
It's almost like he's not a credible source of information.
THANK YOU my brother has been watching Andrew T*te, reading THIS BOOK, the four hour work week, rich dad poor dad, and it’s been turning him into a terrible person. Thank you for this I am going to send him this video
your brother sounds insufferable 😭
Sounds like your brother is a piece of work😢 sorry about that.
my sympathies
what colour is his bugatti
@@pxko6984 ☠️☠️☠️ finished me
I think there are 3 ways u can use the book. 1. Ignore and question why.
2. Learn its ways
3. Learn to recognise its ways, identify it in people and learn ways to protect yourself from being taken advantaged of.
Im very happy that you havent experienced all that in people. I unfortunately recognise some of the ways the book mention in people although they were probably doing it unknowingly. This book has been quite helpful in understanding why people do things the way they do.
Exactly! I have the same knee jerk reaction in a way: just live! Just be happy! (dont read this book).
But unfortunately, for many people "just being" means a miserable existence due to whatever happened to them in life. Wanting to aspire to this level of power then isnt surprising. This book could probably describe the majority of people and why they do bad things. No one is immune to this as long as your environment pushes you hard enough.
another reason is to write a character that acts like this
I read this book when I was having a hard time with a toxic friend and I think it helped me. Not beacause I got power over them, but beacause I recognised the person in this book. You did make a good point in this review, but I think it was a good book to teach you to be more aware of others manipulating you.
Yes! SAME
I’ve only heard praises about the book and so am thinking of reading it. I’ve watched some videos of Robert Green and he seems such a calm, respectful and intelligent person. That intrigued me more. Will see.
Anyway, what I got from this video is what my usual reason is for avoiding most book communities on social media. Just typical anti-intellectual attitude…. And ppl thinking they’re “too cool” for this stuff or for reading self-help books as a whole. I’m tired of this.
@@Ann--or1dk a rational comment thank god..
I feel like this book is best read as a defense against people who use these tactics. I see it as a safety measure. It can give you advice on how certain people think. Then again, it is a strange book to read, and people could easily learn from it and use it themselves
Also, I wouldn’t judge someone for liking or enjoying this book. They probably have their own reasons for liking it and their own interpretation of it, that isn’t about manipulating people. I’m personally trading in my copy of the book. I personally didn’t find it too interesting and I felt like I didn’t really need to know any of what was in the book; but if someone enjoyed it then that’s good for them
how you read the book is literally how the author meant for it to be used
There's a book called money's hidden magic, and it talks about how using some secret tehniques you can attract a lot of money, it's not some bullshit law of attraction, it's the real deal
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Oh so that’s why it’s banned from prison! It’s not because it’s enlightening or makes master manipulators… it’s just such a terribly bad take on life that they really shouldn’t be spreading that message for people turning their lives around
Its not a take on life, it's an expose on the disgusting nature of power and the people who chase absolute power that can help you against a manipulative spouse or boss, and catch red flags in manipulators easily.
@@atro-city OR for an already disordered personality, it’s a to-do list.
Turning their lives around. lol. Not sure what prison that is. No such thing as a prison that rehabilitates.
@@PaperMario64 you can't stop people from being who they are. But hopefully if someone like that reads it, the book makes it apparent of how sad and soulless a life of a person like that will have to be if they actually took this as a guide-book.
@@atro-city Yeah! Robert Greene said the book is best used as a guide to see when people are trying to manipulate you.
Happy Birthday Jack. Thank you so much for getting me into reading and academia. You’ve inspired many people around the world. Have a great day🥳🥳🥳
my principal CLEARLY studied this book.
🎉🎉🎉
Not gonna lie but this book helped me figure out how some toxic people think so it’s easier for me to avoid manipulators. I loved it. It really helped me. Believe it or not but some people believe and live life by these standards
If you are facing adversity that you do not believe you can overcome, this book is worth your time. I wish we all lived in a world where this was not necessary, but that's not the case. People will try to take advantage of you, take power, take control. Knowing how to leverage power and play your cards right so to speak can save you and others.
U r right BUT, let's not kid ourselves. The book wasn't written to protect people from manipulation. The book tells u it's intentions and tells u how it's trying to get u to act. It tells u to be manipulative and often, not as a reaction to an abusive individual but as a 1st mover. So the protection argument is Garbaggio
I have this book at home. I actually found it useful coz it helped me identify certain behaviors that I consider as red flags. I’m also quite shy and I find it hard to stand up for myself sometimes, so this kind of gives me a sort of shield that can help me face different kinds of people.
Are this kinda books recommended someone like minor age
@@hilycool_yeah as long as they understand that it's a shield
I read this book many years ago and I think it's written from the perspective of someone who grew up in a society where power, status and money were still viewed as the goals of life (boomers and gen x) and it was believed those 3 things can be obtained by taking them from someone else - that's how the bosses of our parents got to their positions of "power". For our generations, the goals of life are different and we have also grown up thinking more in terms of collaboration over individual power.
Don't be fooled. Power is still the priority for all generations. Collaboration is nothing new, you can't have high levels of success without it. The goals in life are the same for all generations and always will be, that is to have a purpose and be rewarded in multiple ways by it. Boomers and gen x's were of their time and did what was needed in that context, much like every other generation, including yours.
@@BlackCoffeeee you may be right... Though the desire for influence, fame and all that have taken it's place you could argue it's just another form of power... one that looks more "acceptable" because it's not "imposing" but it's still power in the end
I dont think so, for me it was it came from the most loser individual, and extremely deprived for power and inferior for himself. Im talkin about ultimate loser, when you came from the bottom you can literally observe those who came from the top, then learn their weakness, strategy to surpass them, one step at a time, until you reach the top. For me this book didn't give me any new ideas/learning and i thought it was a normal knowledge , it only confirmed that my perspective was natural. A natural born Machiavelli, in fact this book is heavily influenced by The Price from Machiavelli.
Are we just going to ignore the fact that Jack was almost mugged with a KNIFE ??? Jack, my dude, are you okay ???
facts like r u ok???
A true Harry Styles fan
"Don't you have, like, gardening to do? Don't most men your age just have an affair?" I live for this dialogue 💀
Yeah. I laughed so hard at that. :). This book sounds really pointless to me. What a waste of time. I'm glad that Jack read it so I don't have to! HA!
@@a.e.jabbour5003 That's a hella of a good book dummy
@@silviuandreiiacoban3962 Doubtful. And don't plan on wasting time to confirm it's uselessness. But hey, go with what you like.
the publishers did a REAL good job in making it look evil. as a graphic designer, my biggest impression of this book after listening to your 20 min review is the awful red typesetting in the shape of tbe cloud. actually audibly gasped when i saw it
What is so bad abt it
I thought the type setting was actually the best part! it's hard to fit the text in like that! A great deal more interesting than a bland, black block of sans serif
yeah - we should reconsider hate speech laws for situations like this where the real crime is the formatting
@@comaOOO "hate speech laws" shouldn't even exist, because we should have free speech as long as we're not deliberately misinforming people, and this book contains a lot of truths about how people use power dynamics to their advantage. the formatting thing is debatable, as the book is a neutral look on power, and power on itself means danger giving the content of the book.
It's been stated by the Author that the book is more so a manual for those who are weak to the manipulations of those who perform the 48 laws of power naturally. A sort of "defense against the dark arts," if you will.
This book really said devote all your energy to thinking about other people 😂😂
YOUR HUMOR IS EVERYTHING
I agree with this reaction: Who walks around having opponents and enemies? I'm sure even the people who *think* they have enemies, don't actually have them. But the idea of having an enemy feeds their sense of self importance. Most of us are not that central to anyone's life. But their biggest nightmare is not being important enough to hate.
Narcissists and psychopaths have enemies...
Now that's mature
For what it’s worth, he’s quoted as saying he doesn’t follow all of his own advice “Anybody who did would be a horrible ugly person to be around”
That makes sense. It doesn't sound like the book is telling you who to be. It seems like the book is pointing out human psychology any how it is used by those who understand it to control the world around you. Sorta like scientific laws manipulate the physical world. Understanding why you are sunburned can help avoid it in the future.
And yet he still put that all in the same place
@Back Tothefuture
People play serial killers in movies and are not actual serial killers.
Using your logic, there would no entertainment.
I do, hope we never meet 😊
@@backtothefuture2880 that line of thinking is just dumb
A lot of these "rules" are literally things psychologists look for when diagnosing personality disorders.
Are you a psychologist? Because, I am. I don't *littrally* look for such things while diagnosing "most of subjects".
Understand, difference between machiavellians, psychopaths, narcssists and other common ego related plights.
Machiavellianism is a personality trait centered on manipulativeness, callousness, and indifference to morality.
It is not a "disorder" of any kind of illness.
Since, it is part of dark triad it is sometimes helpful. This book majorly elucidates on, machiavellism.
In these recent centuries, it is a NEED to BE a little cunning. We, NEVER recommend to be a selfless insecure timid worm. Because, that is BIGGEST sign of potential illness, or doomster sign of future. You are not wrong, and you will gain more experience soon, if you continued to live naive.
If you have ever lied, well. Yes, you are a having certainly a personality disorder :) (saying with irony)
@Raghvendra Singh Sengar Thanks for your comment. I'm a lawyer, FYI and in an area of practice that requires reading and understanding various kinds of psych reports and rubbing shoulders with the people who create them. I appreciate your perspective and putting a finer point on things.
It's probably worth going further and saying that having traits in common with aspects of a personality disorder is not the same as having one (not every bad act is a disorder, people are capable of making bad choices too).
And that, I think closer to the point I was trying to make, knowing this stuff for self-defense doesn't make it good. If you are in a position to avoid or shun a person who acts like this, 8 times out of ten you'll be happier not associating with them than you would be by handling them skillfully. These kind of people are so draining to work with.
@@grantstratton2239 I don't know why your comment puts a smile on my face. Because, you are indeed correct; And I can't deny your justifications. Yet, this doesn't points out any flaw with the knowledge articulated in the book.
It is knowledge, a tool, depends on the way you use it. And for some reason I feel you may have frivolously skimmed the book or, haven't fully studied it. But it's great to see that there are still nice people left, who aren't just chasing power, authority, money, and other extrinsic goals. Lawyers are indeed practical psychologists. I have never met a lawyer who is not a master of behavioural psychology (which I mostly enjoy studying) and also the book goes into the insights of some roots of it
@Raghvendra Singh Sengar I get your position too. I just think from the perspective of someone who wants to be good and have positive relationships, there's plenty of "white hat" advice out there for handling difficult people. Bill Eddy is an author that springs to mind as an example.
*laws
"If you do have enemies like that.......grow up." hahaha well said! 😂😂
P.S. Jack, I just love all of your side comments when reviewing this book. I'm glad there are people like you in the world!
Tbh after researching about robert greene, watching his TV interviews from years ago, as well as his recent appearances on podcasts, I've realised he himself isn't that cunning or power hungry, but his books make him come off that way. He says he writes books for the underdogs in the world who are trying to figure out the evil people of the world and understand their tricks. But yes, i also think this book could be used by people with antisocial tendencies/manipulative traits to exploit people more for power. I've seen such people use this book to do that; acquaintances i know who want power because they say themselves that they felt victimised in life. This book is extremely polarising, that's for sure. I feel like it should've also talked about showing compassion, empathy and love to your loved ones; that would've balanced it out a bit.
Loved your review of it though. Made me see how extreme this book is with its laws. I hope to see you review more famous self help books and share your thoughts on them 💜
Anything that's supposed to be discussing owning your own power with a set of laws sounds super fucking cultish. I'm sure Greene had good intentions writing the piece, however, people owning their own power and loving themselves is defined by personal set of laws one sets out for themselves. You cant be told how to acquire powers you cant be given power. You create power and hold onto it.
@@tanah6962 It's good to know about these "laws" to identify when people try to do it to you. If you are a decent person, you wont take this book as a recipe book.
I guess the approach in the book is like a next step when people start understanding you can't always win by just being compassionate and kind. That's like John Wick's movie: the man did nothing wrong, but people came and killed his dog. Should he then try to be compassionate to the murderers? Yeah, maybe, but the plot is more cruel and people still love it.
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This book helped me a lot in catching red flags in people. Robert Greene does not insult your intelligence by reminding you that these are not ethical tactics, he just lays down the facts as to how manipulative people behave, and if someone is reading this book to gain power, it also exposes how sad and pathetic of a "life" they are going to lead. Unfortunately, instead of furthering the conversation of the disgusting nature of power, some people are going to fixate on the fact that this is not the key to happiness (duh!) and shame everybody that find this book helpful in any way.
To be fair a lot of books are banned in prisons. I worked in a bookstore for a long time and we had a list of books we couldn't send out. And we had to tell everyone sending books to jail that they might be sent back after inspection. Also no hardcovers. I met Robert Greene once and he was a very quiet and shy person, unremarkable actually, and wouldn't really talk to me. But I have found that most "self-help" authors (at least the ones I've met) are messy and not at all like their books.
Yeah, hardcover would definitely hurt
I actually bought this book for someone in prison not knowing what it was. I think only a few prisons have it banned
Interesting observation from the ones you met. Sounds like there could be projection of whatever the authors feel like they “should” be doing- it’s easier to write a book about it than become all of those things that they’d wish to change maybe
@@Benlavine It's probably the difference between insight and action. I suppose one can be rather insightful but have the inability to take action themselves
Those who can’t play, coach. Lol
The book to read is "How to Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie. Which when I first picked up I thought was going to be like this book, a manual for manipulation.
But it's not, it's the exact 180 deg opposite: How to get what you want by making people happy and giving them what they want, and by being the best version of yourself to bring out the best in others. Changed my life and improved the lives of people around me who got a better version of me out of the deal. I reread it every year. Highest recommendation.
Not only that but it really works and you get all the god things the Laws of Power promises, but by being Lawful Good instead of Chaotic Evil.
My mom gave it to me when I was 14 because I couldn’t make friends and she thought it was about making friends. But to me it’s not really how to make friends but about people pleasing. And for some reason it made me a bit uncomfortable because it can help certain people thrive through what they need to do but when you want to have genuine friends it feels too complicated and a one way relationship. One good thing about this book though is that it made me more self aware in a way..
What makes you think that isn't manipulation. Using peoples emotions good or bad is manipulation. Whether you like it or not we're all subconscious or conscious manipulators, successful or unsuccessful. Creating a stigma around isnt going to help the fact that you need it to excel in one and every aspect of life.
I read that book and I liked it. Not because I am trying to manipulate people and gather power( only 5-7 "laws" are useful and civil). But, because I and a lot of people I know are naive. We need to know how sociopaths think to properly defend ourselves. Because of this book I noticed the shadows of political candidates and abstained my vote.
Wow, you didn't vote? You're really making a difference, fight the power
The "tried to mug me" implies they didn't succeed. And I think I know why. You're *powerful*
“These people walk among us and I’m scared of them”
That’s kind of a reason to read it though…
I read it more as “these laws exist and people use them to their advantage whether you like it or not. Hating the laws doesn’t make them not exist. Knowing them helps you identify them”
Instead of
“This is how to destroy anyone you like with my blessing MUHAHAHA”
I think the “how to” structure was more of a stylistic choice to add to the “READ AT YOUR OWN RISK” vibe which is silly but brilliant from a marketing standpoint.
I didn’t enjoy the experience of reading it either but it’s been invaluable for identifying and shutting down psychos I’ve encountered in my life that DO abide by these laws either consciously or not.
As a shield, I absolutely recommend.
I have seen interviews from Robert Green explaining exactly that
That’s exactly how Machiavelli’s the prince works too, it’s kind of the modern version of the prince.
@@TheBBqMan140 I thought exactly the same
It seems the book can be used at a sword OR shield.
@@excelty1 greene is full of garbage 🗑. The only reason u need the book as a shield is because it exists in the first place
“don’t most men at that age just have an affair?” 😭
CRYING Jack called them all out
Also possible a dig against Ned from tryguys🤭
He didn't even stutter!
@@dreamingofthemoon or Adam Levine
I think that if you heard Robert Greene conversations with Jordan Peterson or Ryan Holiday, you will understand why he wrote that kind of book.
From what I know, he wants you to be prepared for the world, because those kind of attitudes appear everywhere in the industrial/comprtitive world that we live on, and if you can recognize them, maybe you won't spend a lot of your time and energy badlym
Just listened to 15 minutes of the audiobook version and it feels like the devil is whispering into my ear
If you find the laws morally repugnant good lol. You have basic modern morality. Read the book anyway and have a dialogue with yourself on why you disagree with it or what values you hold. Ever book doesn’t have to be taken at face value.
This book is the definition of ✨Girlboss/Gaslight/Gatekeep✨
Girl boss?
happy birthday to the walking green flag, to the man who revived my love for books, whose taste in literature is immaculate, and who always makes me smile with his cute little book jokes and puns. happy birthday, Jack! wish you many fascinating novels and just an eventful life!
Whenever Jack uploads it’s like my day and motivation, both get boosted
Same ❤
Part of critical analysis is to maybe not have an emotional gut reaction. You didn't like the advice that was being given but you now have a better understanding about how people with power think. Some women watch crime shows to learn about how to survive. I am interested in this book because I want to understand power and what it does to us.
I have also read, " The Art of War " and " Civil Disobedience " and it didn't change who I am or how I think. Love books and wish I had a copy of this one.🙂
The book was never meant to be a “how to”. Greene himself has said it’s meant to learn what others are doing to manipulate you so you can protect yourself.
@@Gingabread-bw6xj So why was it not written as such?
@@d818581dd what do you mean? In order to teach people how to protect themselves against manipulation, you have to tell them what it is and how it’s used. You need actual examples. Which is what the book does. Manipulation isn’t going to work (or is less likely to work) when you know the tactics people use.
What other way would you propose we teach this? There’s no round about way of doing it in my opinion.
@@Gingabread-bw6xjso false advertising then
I once watched a video called "how to ruin your life". I recognized where in my life I was following the advice in the video and tried my hardest to stop. I am now living a pretty awesome and fulfilling life.
Moral of the story is, you can teach a lesson from different angles. This book is basically defense against the dark arts.
If you listen to Robert explain his reasoning behind the laws then it makes a lot more sense. There's a lot of this going on in the real world and being aware of it is a sort of power in itself.
Here's a possibly interesting thought: in my personal experience, coming to the realization that there is darkness within me was deeply empowering as a recovering people pleaser and someone who grew up indoctrinated to be an absolute "good girl" and basically an object to a husband (for religious reasons). It humanized me. It made me much more aware of my responsibility towards myself and others, but it also allowed me to see that there was a much wider range of possibilities for me to exist in and tools to defend myself in a world that is constantly trying to confuse my relationship with my personal power. And because life is messy and not perfect, my learning journey has been too. But being able to access that darkness has been crucial in order to, precisely, identify it in the people who have harmful intentions toward me and others. And even have some fun while bringing some justice! I'd love to know what you think.
Mam, this was well written, and actually what the book was about and its purpose. You hit nail, right on head.
Giving into this kind of darkness is not a tool for recovery, but would turn you from a victim into a perpetrator of abuse towards other people. This is book should not be a guide for healing. There are healthy ways to defend yourself from people that doesn't involve manipulating, lying and all the BS preached by this book. Cognitive therapy really works for this.
@@casandra0 Ya, Jordon Peterson is not the postive role model you think.
I agree that we all have these tendencies within us and it's better to recognize them, than to pretend they don't exist.
(It's funny: As a guy, everyone assumes that we have that darkness in us from the start, until it's proven that we don't)
I also agree with the comments that this can't be used for justice; it's like putting out a fire with more fire.
This competitive/domineering side of humanity is only one side - there's also the co-operative/egalitarian side that David Graeber talks about.
Great insight! If you haven‘t yet, check out Carl Jung‘s work on „the Shadow“, which touches on some of your observations.
The sad part is that a lot of people are exactly how that book describes. In fact, we are probably surrounded by those kinds of people and that's why the book is so popular. Also that is why humanity is in the situation it is.
I could imagine, it’s a bit like a shark tank. If you find yourself surrounded by such ppl, your only option is to become like them to “out-exploit” them, or to leave.
always has been. we need to accepth that
That's why he wrote the book. If you look up his backstory. He wrote the book so readers can become aware of toxic, ego-driven, manipulative people. This book is to be used as a self-awareness guide. A shield, not a sword. To protect yourself against the laws of power so you don't get used by them. Sound a bit wishy-washy but it's the direct truth.
2:37 "You must appear to be the paragon of decency, but be the manipulator." I'm starting to wonder how many actors have been reading this book. 👀
This book is for people who need power, who have enemies, who own business with employees, who don’t live in day to day norms. For the average person who works a 9-5 job or wants to live a normal life will not understand this book. They do not need to. They don’t need to worry about people betraying them or trying to convince people to do things, or needing people to fear them. Unfortunately, kings, queens, politicians worry about war and do their best to abuse power and put fear into people who they know wont beat them. These power laws are real, i myself have used a few and noticed how people treat you when you use them. I think people don’t like this book is because they don’t understand it. You don’t have to. Confidentially saying not many of us are kings or queens or politicians who need to appear big or scary to intimidate their enemies. They decided war, we don’t. Be grateful that this book is for our knowledge, and not necessarily mandatory for our lives. We don’t need this book in our lives. But…. When you read this book, you will always be thinking about it. And if you chose to use it, people will eventually respect you. Always respect them of course, but use what you need from these laws. You don’t need all 48. Id say the most important law is , “reputation is everything, guard it with your life.” Sit down and think about yours. Are you happy? If yes, congratulations. If no, use this books. You can fix it. Like i said this book is not for everyone. I personally loved it and I’ve been able to implement it into my life in a healthy way. With great power comes responsibility -uncle Ben. How responsible are you, and what are you responsible for?
I'm about 2/3 of the way through this book and the conclusion I came to is that this book can be used for good or evil, depending on who's holding it. As someone who wasn't the most socially adept, I finally gain some insight into social behaviors that always seemed like "unwritten rules" that everyone was privy to but me. This book mostly taught me how to protect myself from manipulative people, and how (without malicious intent) use some of these laws to increase my value in certain situations (mainly professionally). For example, hiding how difficult something makes you seem more talented. Or to leave while they're clapping. That's quite benign, I've seen that in the majority of the laws, except for the few that stick out as being cunning and evil in whatever way you twist it.
I think everyone should read this book. It'll help you navigate the chaos of social life better, especially if you are/were naive and assume everyone has a good heart like you.
I actually got in trouble for having this in my room while I was in juvenile correctional lol
So why did you have it? :)
^ I second this question
@@Snowshowslow because he was reading it!
@@Frankcohle I assume you don't have a toddler? That just moves the question to: "Why were you reading it?" 😉
“Never let them know your next move”
*punches us*
“Did you see that coming?”
Me: no. No i didn’t 😭
time stamp?
@@evangeli7412 8:46
😭😂
It immediately punched to an ad break for me lol
Okay you’re literally the first person who has said what I was thinking 😭 like I’ve heard so many summaries and positive reviews but I’m like “damn this kind of goes against my morals. I’m not so sure if I want to intentionally use people…” glad it’s not just me.
exactly. when people read this book... "unironically" i guess? HUGE red flag
This book is basically the modern version of Machiavelli’s The Prince 😂
That was my reaction too.
Machiavelli wrote The Prince to show the common people how the ruling class was manipulating them and help them fight back.
The Prince was written as gift to Lorenzo de Medici, the current noble ruling Florence at the time of the writing. Lorenzo belonged to the Medici family who had been rulers of Florence for several generations, and were no strangers to ruling with cruelty, manipulation, backstabbing, and treachery. Look at the opening of the book and you will see a dedication to Lorenzo. It was intended as advice on how to manipulate and control the common people, adversaries, and even allies with the sole intent of remaining in power.
@@flowoflife2772 Ah, no.
Is it 😂 omg is it 😂 stfu
Exactly, if someone recommends this book, that is a person you don’t need or want in your life.
I read this book and high school and found it quite interesting. I really don’t think it teaches you to be manipulative but definitely does review some very manipulative and depressing people. It’s such a fascinating look into history and psychology. Odd and a weird change of perspective.
totally agree! i just wrote a similar comment few minutes ago. It's not a book to encourage those behaviors, it's here to explain them. It's actually cultivating more critical thinking when looking at power figures in general.
I saw a comment earlier saying “use this book as a shield not a sword” and i think that explains a lot
Nobody:
Jack: Somebody tried to mug with a knife, sooooo anyways, here's the next part of my book review!
Are you okay Jack?
so basically this book is the exact opposite of How to Win Friends and Influence People lol
And often people buy this book TOGETHER and I’m like- ooooh the internal conflict you’re about to experience my dear…
I think they re very similar they re both about manipulating people one just one is in a kinder way lol
nah bruv HTWIAP is basically the same just presented in a nice way
I want to see a game show where two people try to follow the lessons from each book. Who succeeds most in daily life?
This book really serves as protection. It was meant to point out what goes on in society and how you can benefit or protect yourself from it. I have 2 copies of this book at home
Why 2? Just curious
This being on my Dad's bookshelf when I was growing up explains a lot about certain aspects of his behaviour.
Like what
@@Lo-to7zhExactly. Why just teasing without explaining!
@@SeijuroSpinoza lol
You’ll be able to beat or avoid a devil if you’ve read and understood their playbook
"what's the actual point of having power...if your life sucks?" made me laugh lmaoo. But actually a really good point. I feel like a lot of people focus so much on "being successful" in a traditional sense that they lose out on the joys of life.
"For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, but loses his soul?"
I'd actually be vaguely curious about reading this book for writing purposes. It seems like an interesting window into how such people think and it's always useful to have more such windows when you're trying to write a variety of characters, including ones with unhealthy mindsets such as are apparent in this book.
Otherwise, throw it in a fire and let it burn in hell.
This is unironically what Classroom of the elite built its protagonist and arguably the entire plot around so you might wanna check that anime out.
I do believe that it's more about recognizing walking red flags. Sometimes we are naive enough to fall for people's games that have too many toxic behaviors, and books like this can help open your awareness to all the shady people out there.
I've seen his interviews about the book, and he says it should be used to learn how others try to manipulate you, so you can recognize it and avoid it. He's not actually trying to teach people how to be manipulative
"Power should be seen more as a byproduct than a destination" ✨wow✨
This is the chaos I never knew I needed in my life
Suddenly, Kanye West's behaviors all make sense now
nope. they don't.
@@UHollis Not based. Cringe Kanye supporter.
Kanye is shit AF
@@UHollis exactly
I once worked for an awful personal trainer. Here was abusive to his clients. One day I found this book in his library and understood that he was doing it on purpose. I stopped working with him that week.
As someone who has read his books, this one included, I do appreciate the kind of person you are, who looks to promote positivity and spread happiness and good virtues. Definitely stay being you, we could use more of such people in the world these days.
If you fancy him just say so! I think he's cute🤭
I'm just gonna say, I've never read this book but the things you're saying are what I've learned to do in order to survive my childhood.
When I first read this book, I felt dirty for some reason.
RIGHT!
This book is definitely meant to detect people you shouldn’t be around. Better title: How to lead an emotionally unhealthy life
i used to work at a bookstore and all the guys who bought this had the same vibe😂 i can't explain what it was, but when they would come up to you and ask where to find Robert Greene's books, internally i was like "hmm go figure"
I think it’s based on personal interpretation. I wouldn’t judge someone based on having it, unless I noticed them using these tactics
They are already manipulative... they're just looking for tips on how to refine it.
@@cloverflower2820 But how do you know that? You can’t say someone is a certain way when you don’t even know them. That’s just assuming
You actually said nothing with a lot of words
@@connorbooth7207these people love assuming and judging what people read
Thank you Jack for going through the pain of that book so none of us have to. It seems like the subtitle for this book should be "A Handbook for Sociopaths".
The chaos levels in this are deliciously high
I have never enjoyed a book review so much, the way Jack had me laughing out loud through this whole entire video
ive read this one years ago and I find it dark. Always tells someone to be critical before picking it up. There is a big possibility that one person will follow this from page 1 until the last page by heart. It's more of knowing how the vicious people think and move but you don't wanna be one. :)
I work for the government and I don't understand the political environment of my job, but this book help me in addition reading never plit the difference and the art of hunting human really helped my navigate (mostly avoid politics in my job)
1:55 If you don’t have enemies then you stand for nothing.
The point of the book I think is to become aware of power structures and how power is wielded and used that's what I took away from it not to necessarily become power hungry. Unfortunately there is a lot of abuse of power and it made me think of the different power structures at play in the world in that way it can be a useful read. Your review is indeed entertaining and I do agree with your thinking but I think the book is more to breakdown power in the world for a normal like me so we aren't so easily swayed by it
I work at a Dymocks (a book store) and literally saw like an 11-year-old kid ask his mum to get him this book last week. I fear for the future
I always thought the way he writes in a sinister way was for comedic purposes. I still think it. I don’t think he was being serious when writing about enemies. The audiobook seemed so dramatic and cartoonish. If you watch his interviews, he’s such a sweet guy. 🤷♀️
I agree with the top comment.
The correct lens to view this book through is not in understanding "how people SHOULD act" but rather "how people DO act".
We've all absolutely met someone who would follow this book to the tee, ironically by deconstructing these "laws to power" you learn to take away power from those who would act in bad faith. It's not meant to decide how people should be, but shed a light on what they can be. If that was intended or not is up for debate though.
“If you have no enemies find a way to make them” - is the author ok though??
pain betters you
@@cottenedkeys or increases your therapist's income
If you dont have enemies then you arent making an impact on the world. enjoy being everyones push over
@@adamcraig1468 Adam, you aren't "making an impact": you're just being an asshole. You can influence people's opinions without making them hate your guts.
@@scorseve wrong. No successful person has never had enemies. Even Jesus had enemies.