I just watched a video essay explaining that Arya was actually killed by the Waif and Arya is the Waif in disguise. Right before she leaves Bravoos she was called no one by Jagen Haggar but the Waif says she is Arya Stark of Winterfell. So the waif has become no one but is disguised as Arya Stark.
The Waif revealing herself after wounding Arya shows exactly her "weakness". She too feels like she's someone and not a no one, cause she wanted to tell Arya "Look at me. It was ME who killed you, not just a random old lady". That's not how a real no one would think nor would act. As a matter of fact, it's exactly what Arya does later when killing Frey.
You are right on the surface ,but the difference with killing Frey was it was already personal because of what he did to her family. She definitely made an exception for him and I don't blame her.
I think not. A girl is finally no one is a confirmation that the arya in her is no longer there. And when she said " a girl is arya stark...." It is like saying I'm a faceless man wearing arya as a mask.
@@ineedhelp8573 I respectfully disagree. Because I've been through a lot of trauma in my life. But if God guides you out the other side, you can finally say that you are still you. And that trauma may have informed your future life and your character, it still hasn't destroyed your core and your soul.
@@clevermoron sure. That's what makes a story "immortal" because people keep trying to figure out what exactly happened. You know, people keep talking about it and keep looking into it. It's just how excellent the story is. People having different opinions is just natural
@@ineedhelp8573 I agree. There is absolutely nothing like good storytelling. And you're right, the differing opinions are what make stories everlasting. Much like a good song, that many people can interpret differently.
3:15 the waif goes full psycho robot mode from here. Before I just saw her as a ruthless mentor, but when Arya spared the other lady, the waif went full t-1000.
Theory: The Waif had become a mentally unstable and fanatical follower of the Many Faced God. She hated Arya so much because she knew that she was just using the Faceless Men to get the training she needed to kill the people on her list, and would leave the order once she got what she needed. To The Waif, this was an insult to her order and blasphemy, and she wanted Arya dead for it. In reality, the Many Faced God was far more offended by The Waif's devotion, gatekeeping, and sadism, than by Arya's refusal to give up her true identity. To him, Arya was never a true Faceless Man, because she never stopped being Arya. Since she wasn't part of his cult she could not blaspheme against and him. This is why she was merely punished, instead of killed, when she "stole" Meryn Trant from him. But The Waif WAS at some point truly a "No One," who had fallen away and become a "someone" again, by becoming too obsessed with their religion, by holding a personal grudge against Arya, and by her sadistic enjoyment of suffering. She wasn't "playing" The Waif anymore, she had really become The Waif. The Faceless aren't butchers; they do have their own set of moral codes. They will kill innocent or undeserving people, but they usually charge steep and often bizarre prices to do so, and sometimes they even refuse contracts. They often attempt to kill their victims quickly and painlessly. They are also very compassionate to the sick and dying, offering a way to end their lives easily and caring for their bodies after they die. Jaqen H'gar was an ideal worshiper of the Many Faced God: He did not fanatically follow their religion, he didn't gatekeep, he wasn't angry that Arya was attempting to use them, he didn't hold any strong opinions one way or the other, he was kind and compassionate without motive, he respected other people as equals, he took life without pleasure in it. So he was used by the Many Faced God to correct The Waif's path. Jaqen pitted Arya and The Waif against each other, to teach The Waif that obsession, ego, rage, cruelty and fanatical obsession to The Many Faced God was the true blasphemy. Or to kill her in trying. Is the person who was The Waif truly dead? Maybe. Maybe not. We saw "Jaqen H'gar" drink poison and "survive." Is he the original Jaqen? Or did another Faceless simply take his mask and step into his shoes? Perhaps the Faceless never really die, they just lose their favorite mask and get demoted to new identities. Or maybe the person playing The Waif really was killed, and her mask put on the wall like a retired jersey, and she's now doing time in whatever afterlife the Many Faced God provides for his people...
The faceless men "worship" death, but it is not a sentient entity. It s just death, not a "real" god. There s no statue or simulacrum for it either. They just follow a code. The waif is an orphan that agreed to become "property" of the faceless men in exchange for revenge i believe in the books and became an apprentice like arya. In the series it is clear that she is jealous of arya because jaqen favours her. She sees arya as a dangerous rival. She is obviously a psychopath that enjoys killing, maybe that's why jaqen prefers arya over her, she is not fit to be a faceless woman either, albeit for a different reason compared to Arya. She is more skilled in close combat than arya but gets outsmarted by arya who baited her to fight to the death in a situation of disadvantage and ultimately lost. I'm pretty sure this is all that there is to it.
So no one is going to talk abt how amazing the scene was where arya cut the candle, cuz i was so hyped when that happened idk i just found it so brilliant
@@glendarjj3991honestly...did we watch the same show? The braavos part was brilliant. Imo it peaked when she killed all the freys, that part was also awesome.
@@met2234 they just turned her into an anime character with enormous plot armor while everyone else was suffering. It didn't feel her kills and victories were earned or satisfying for me. But I haven't watched or even thought about this show in a while, so maybe my opinion will change in the future.
I never understood why she hated arya so much it didnt feel like a teacher genuinely trying to teach a new student the ways of their organization it always felt personal like she know her from before
She believed Arya was not truly committed and would never truly be "no one". Arya was a "Lady". The high born were never "no one", only the lowest of society. "You will never truly be one of us". Every "no one" wanted to burn and disconnect from their miserable past, Arya would always be Arya and had a pleasant past and good memories of her life until the events that led to the story. Arya was not a true believer, but a schizophrenic, 1/2 true believer, 1/2 not. In this regard the waif was always correct. George was writing Arya as history's greatest villains, being retold as the hero through the eyes of an endearing 12 year old girl. Arya v Waif was Cain v Abel Arya v ja'quen was Cyclops v Odysseus (No one is straight from Odysseus getting the Cyclops to call him "no one") Arya in the lady Crain affair was Puck from Midsummer Night's dream Arya v The Hound was "the Morrigan" vs. the Hound of Ulster from Irish mythology Arya v Red Woman was Big Bad Wolf v Little red Riding Hood (What big eyes you have!!) Arya v Walder Frey was Atreus v Thyestes (one of the oldest stories of western civilization, feeding him his sons) etc. I believe George is writing the story to finish as Arya becomes the Gollum.' Arya/No One and Gollum/Smeagol She will steal the ring of power (save her baby brother Bran) and the books will end differently than the show. In this "Song of Ice and Fire", an aria is a strong solo in the opera outside the main storyline. (While her sister IS the story line, Sansa is Stanza plus Sancha of Aragon and sansa is the key this story is sung to) When she sails away Bran will be on the boat. (With the last surviving "others").
She was envious of Arya's being born a lady, a daughter of the Warden of the North, an ancient family of first men who were Kings of the North. She also was so incredibly afraid and upset that Arya was being taught just as she was. She was the sparring partner but never a teacher.
@@dignature123 I believe the first 4 seasons of GOT were the best literature to film ever done. The three parts of the book were: Westeros ( medieval - The Wars of the roses were moment when medieval turns to modern) Essos (antiquity - The death of Cleopatra and the death of Marc Antony are when Hellenistic turns to Roman and The Roman Republic dies and the Roman Empire is born) The Wall/North is The Lord of the Rings (The moment the age of Magic ends and the Age of Man begins) Within the "medieval" you can see Robin Hood. Beric as Robin Hood, Thoros as Friar Tuck, the band of Brothers as Merry Men. You can see the Borgias (Jamie as Ceasar, Sansa as Sancha, Tyrian as Giovanni, Cersei as Lucrezia, Tywinn as Alexander). Will, the nightswatchman executed, George has admitted was William Shakespeare. Executing him was Richard of York (Ned), while watching was Edward IV (Rob), Edward V (Bran), Richard III (John), and George Planagenet (Theo). etc. etc. Within Antiquity you can Athens fall into tyranny. Xaro as Solon, the warlocks as the Egyptian priests. You can see Spartacus, the slaves nailed to the cross. etc. etc. Within The North you can see literature. Munity at Crasters was the Lord of the Flies. The travels to North with Jeor was Winnie the Pooh, Jeor, the old bear as winnie, John as Christopher, Sam as Piglet, Ed as Eeyore, Gillie and the child as Kanga and Roo. etc. etc. G. Martin has always said he steals his stories from everybody, he just changes the heroes and villains. George rewrote antiquity, medieval, and LOTR and changed the heroes and the villains.
@@dignature123 Even the 75% percent of the books that did not get put to screen were mostly the retelling of sci fi and fantasy. He had characters in there that were "Lord Burt and Sir Grover", if I recollect. They were muppets getting their strings pulled by Lord Hensen.
The Waif, ever the arrogant jerkass, is "fishing for compliments" here. Yet to earn the "honor" of a place on that list, you have to commit heinous crimes against Arya's family & friends (or innocent people in general). Being just a nasty bully is not enough - sorry Waif. But congratulations, you finally made it to the list by viciously murdering Lady Crane. Now enjoy...
@@teacupkoala175 i at first thought it was a step towards coming a faceless men when she asks who needs to be on her kill list too like accepting the requests to kill someone
Unpopular opinion, but I really enjoyed the Waif as a character? She was like a really unique villainous mentor. I don't know if I've ever seen a character quite like her. I loved how robotic she was in a medieval world, too. I just wish this plot was fleshed out a bit more so that the Waif's character could be even stronger.
Needle is the strength of Arya. It protected Arya in many ways specially from mortal danger. The sword that was given by Jon. That swords reminds him of his brother smile Jon Snow. In the books Arya and Jon shares a very strong bonding as siblings that no other stark children shares.
At some point, the news of Arya's defeat of the Night King would have reached Braavos. I've often wondered about how Jaqen H'Ghar would react when he heard...
He didn't train her to become one of the assassins. He trained her to serve his god, and to serve the many faced god is to kill. The more she kills, the more impressed he'll be. He'd definitely be happy with her killing someone that strong.
If Jaqen H’Gar were to originally seek out Arya (Deep Geek) to become an acolyte, perhaps when the night kings name was put into the many faced gods hat, Arya was destined to defeat the night king.
Had to admit I thought she was going to kill Arya. And then Arya sliced the candle.... Felt the same way at the end of 300, and then the narrator explained why Leonidas did what he did. LOVE IT.
I read that she quit social media for the hatred received. People are so dumb. Don't they realise that means she's an amazing actress to be so convincing and not actually the waif? 😂
The waif seemed to be jealous of Arya, probably because of where she came from. Her character was somewhat interesting though up until the chase scene, where she abandoned any pretext of being a faceless person and went full on Terminator.
@@rtybn456 I hate when they do that....its everywhere though...for example: how Billy's death on Predator was totally offscreen...I was all ready to see that knife fight but all you heard was Billy scream
The weaknes of Waif was looking at Aya's eyes to know where she will strike next. Aya realized that when she was blind because Waif couldn't predict where she will strike next.
This experience for Arya was pre-ordained for the time that was to come. Its course was likely set long before, and even foretold by the Red Witch. The look on Jaqen H"ghar spells it out, he did his part for the war to come.
Waif was a daughter of walder frey , when arya took the name of walder frey in her killing list waif was stunned for a moment and then decided to kill arya
She was jealous from day one. Her 'training' was spiteful from the start. She was there first and then comes this highborn girl, one he took special interest in. Constantly calling Arya lovely girl, and being forgiving when Arya made mistakes. Yeah the waif was green with envy and hated that someone prettier, smarter, and noble born had the nerve to come into her territory. Was so glad when she died, I disliked the character. Would like to say she was simply following orders but got to argue that point. If she was all about listening to Jacqen she would have done as he told. He said 'make sure she doesn't suffer'. She stabbed Arya in the stomach instead of slicing her throat. She meant for Arya's death to be slow and painful. This alone proved that her actions went beyond the Faceless and emotions ruled her hands. Arya should have carved out her lady parts and placed it in his bed, because she was acting like a jealous lover.
@@majestyk8654 yeah she wasn’t as pretty as others, like Sansa. But Jacq clearly saw something he liked, he called her lovely. Eyes of the beholder I guess. I like to think it was her inner strength which made her special (lovely) to him. A lot of my male friends think she’s cute.
@@kimcreel669 dont think the waif was romantically in love with jaqen, but she was def jealous of her. He didnt fall in love with arya either, he was just fascinated by her potential imo, and maybe saw her as a friend.
Yeah, if you stop counting past season 5. But you could say the same thing about lots of great shows that failed to stick their landings, but none failed so spectacularly as Game of Thrones.
i would liked to see him appear in the final seaon, maybe saving arya in the big battle of the dead and when she goes to him he says something like "no one saves arya stark"
No one is the most contemplative question in this series. I am in a strange place Who are you? I dont know what I want You are no stranger You dont want anything I am hollow.
I hated it the moment Arya sliced the candle. The room was filled with darkness and voila! The Waif's head is already placed on that some sort of an altar. It should have been satisfying if they did a fist to fist or sword to sword combat and to see how Needle cuts off the Waif's head.
yes, intended anticlimactic scene..I think since we've seen much fighting between Arya and the Waif, they decided to cut it out, and just shortcut it to the scene with Jaqen, but I agree, I was disappointed myself during the actual screening of the episode.
I took it as a form of acknowledgement that Arya has finished her training, and was worthy to join him as a faceless one. But Arya refused it to return home.
@@sadlobster1 Arya getting stabbed in the stomach twice, has the knife twisted inside of her, falls into a medieval city river absolutely infested with bacteria that people empty their chamber pots in, and gets better in like, a week?
It was impossible for Arya to put her on the list even though she wanted to, she can't put a person on the list if she doesn't has the name. The faceless-men have no name so that's why, but she obviously wanted her dead
You know what, I used to think this storyline was dumb, and I still do (mostly because Arya is so careless and that wound really should've gotten infected, but she got off scot free). But it's better than I remember. The two actresses seem to have good chemistry, and their fight scenes all in a row show a clear picture (Arya is never better than her with sight, but specifically got good at countering her while blind). I think previously I rejected this because I was hoping the House of Black and White would be a longer/more interesting plot and the waif is quite different from her book counterpart. Shame we never got to see Arya warging cats or whatnot.
@@marvdatboi You are right; I'm the fool for my opinion, and I'm OK with that, but let's focus I'm talking about something that is a widespread factor on the streaming service HBOMax that continues well after a year of no expansion in the 4K UHD library and WarnerMedia has access to tons of movies already on 4K disc that they refuse to offer on the streaming service is all I'm meaning. I'm a dummy for that; I don't give a care in the world.
Well-acted and the scenes were well-written but the arc was badly done from the books. In the books, The Waif wasn't (yet) an antagonist but fellow trainee and the Servants of the Many-Faced Gods were playing at the Game of Thrones themselves. Like a lot of what Martin wrote, unresolved or ignored by the producers as they neared the end of what Martin had published.
@@magestag6208 Exactly. Probably "finally a girl is no-one" is partly him trying to stall her killing him if she wants to and partly an official graduation certificate.
A lot of people in the comments see the waif as a mentor but i always perceived her as another student that was competing with Arya.
People who've read the books do. But if you've only watched the show, it's reasonable to see the Waif as a jealous rival.
@@astrinymris9953 competition is not the same as jealousy
There was no mentorship here. Just jealous hatred.
I just watched a video essay explaining that Arya was actually killed by the Waif and Arya is the Waif in disguise. Right before she leaves Bravoos she was called no one by Jagen Haggar but the Waif says she is Arya Stark of Winterfell. So the waif has become no one but is disguised as Arya Stark.
@blacknwhite6186 why you gotta do this to me on a Friday 😭
The Waif revealing herself after wounding Arya shows exactly her "weakness". She too feels like she's someone and not a no one, cause she wanted to tell Arya "Look at me. It was ME who killed you, not just a random old lady". That's not how a real no one would think nor would act.
As a matter of fact, it's exactly what Arya does later when killing Frey.
Insightful !
And when she killed Ser Merryn
You are right on the surface ,but the difference with killing Frey was it was already personal because of what he did to her family. She definitely made an exception for him and I don't blame her.
Wow that's amazing. I didn't pay attention to the details
Arya also did the same thing then while killing Walder Frey ,she revealed herself to him to show that it was her(Stark)
The whole faceless man thing was the most interesting thing in my opinion. I loved it.
I thought it was lame.
Too bad the two writers totally forgot about this plot point completely and never paid it off in any way. SMH.
More interesting than the Night King with his magical ice javelin 🙄 Chains from where?
More interesting than the Night King with his magical ice javelin 🙄 Chains from where?
More interesting than the Night King with his magical ice javelin 🙄 Chains from where?
Jaqens smile in the end meant the training worked and In order to find out who she was she needed to become no one.
I think not. A girl is finally no one is a confirmation that the arya in her is no longer there. And when she said " a girl is arya stark...." It is like saying I'm a faceless man wearing arya as a mask.
@@ineedhelp8573 Bingo!
@@ineedhelp8573 I respectfully disagree. Because I've been through a lot of trauma in my life. But if God guides you out the other side, you can finally say that you are still you. And that trauma may have informed your future life and your character, it still hasn't destroyed your core and your soul.
@@clevermoron sure. That's what makes a story "immortal" because people keep trying to figure out what exactly happened. You know, people keep talking about it and keep looking into it. It's just how excellent the story is. People having different opinions is just natural
@@ineedhelp8573 I agree. There is absolutely nothing like good storytelling. And you're right, the differing opinions are what make stories everlasting. Much like a good song, that many people can interpret differently.
She fought a blind girl....but didn't think to fight blind.
3:15 the waif goes full psycho robot mode from here. Before I just saw her as a ruthless mentor, but when Arya spared the other lady, the waif went full t-1000.
She went dumb
My first thought too
The waif certainly taught Arya a thing or two about fighting, although Arya never had to do any boxing.
Theory: The Waif had become a mentally unstable and fanatical follower of the Many Faced God. She hated Arya so much because she knew that she was just using the Faceless Men to get the training she needed to kill the people on her list, and would leave the order once she got what she needed. To The Waif, this was an insult to her order and blasphemy, and she wanted Arya dead for it.
In reality, the Many Faced God was far more offended by The Waif's devotion, gatekeeping, and sadism, than by Arya's refusal to give up her true identity. To him, Arya was never a true Faceless Man, because she never stopped being Arya. Since she wasn't part of his cult she could not blaspheme against and him. This is why she was merely punished, instead of killed, when she "stole" Meryn Trant from him. But The Waif WAS at some point truly a "No One," who had fallen away and become a "someone" again, by becoming too obsessed with their religion, by holding a personal grudge against Arya, and by her sadistic enjoyment of suffering. She wasn't "playing" The Waif anymore, she had really become The Waif.
The Faceless aren't butchers; they do have their own set of moral codes. They will kill innocent or undeserving people, but they usually charge steep and often bizarre prices to do so, and sometimes they even refuse contracts. They often attempt to kill their victims quickly and painlessly. They are also very compassionate to the sick and dying, offering a way to end their lives easily and caring for their bodies after they die.
Jaqen H'gar was an ideal worshiper of the Many Faced God: He did not fanatically follow their religion, he didn't gatekeep, he wasn't angry that Arya was attempting to use them, he didn't hold any strong opinions one way or the other, he was kind and compassionate without motive, he respected other people as equals, he took life without pleasure in it. So he was used by the Many Faced God to correct The Waif's path. Jaqen pitted Arya and The Waif against each other, to teach The Waif that obsession, ego, rage, cruelty and fanatical obsession to The Many Faced God was the true blasphemy. Or to kill her in trying.
Is the person who was The Waif truly dead? Maybe. Maybe not. We saw "Jaqen H'gar" drink poison and "survive." Is he the original Jaqen? Or did another Faceless simply take his mask and step into his shoes? Perhaps the Faceless never really die, they just lose their favorite mask and get demoted to new identities. Or maybe the person playing The Waif really was killed, and her mask put on the wall like a retired jersey, and she's now doing time in whatever afterlife the Many Faced God provides for his people...
damn, this is some good insight, thank you, was interesting to read. i wonder how strong is jaqen h'gar.
Beautiful insight. I very much appreciated this
Wow, loved this interpretation
Great theory
The faceless men "worship" death, but it is not a sentient entity. It s just death, not a "real" god. There s no statue or simulacrum for it either. They just follow a code. The waif is an orphan that agreed to become "property" of the faceless men in exchange for revenge i believe in the books and became an apprentice like arya. In the series it is clear that she is jealous of arya because jaqen favours her. She sees arya as a dangerous rival. She is obviously a psychopath that enjoys killing, maybe that's why jaqen prefers arya over her, she is not fit to be a faceless woman either, albeit for a different reason compared to Arya. She is more skilled in close combat than arya but gets outsmarted by arya who baited her to fight to the death in a situation of disadvantage and ultimately lost. I'm pretty sure this is all that there is to it.
So no one is going to talk abt how amazing the scene was where arya cut the candle, cuz i was so hyped when that happened idk i just found it so brilliant
Made all the more amazing because that single stroke to extinguish the candle was all we needed. No actual death scene.
Jaqen in the end be like: "Now go, my girl, and rock."
Arya’s whole journey here blew me away. Stakes just kept getting higher n higher. Entertaining af. 🤲🏼🤣🌹🤲🏼
Nah her arc peaked with the hound and just turned to shit after that imo
@@glendarjj3991 Nah her arc peaked with killing the NK
@@ianvera4299 peaked in stupidity for sure
@@glendarjj3991honestly...did we watch the same show? The braavos part was brilliant. Imo it peaked when she killed all the freys, that part was also awesome.
@@met2234 they just turned her into an anime character with enormous plot armor while everyone else was suffering. It didn't feel her kills and victories were earned or satisfying for me. But I haven't watched or even thought about this show in a while, so maybe my opinion will change in the future.
Arya = my favourite GOT's character.
Hmmm, The Hound
I never understood why she hated arya so much it didnt feel like a teacher genuinely trying to teach a new student the ways of their organization it always felt personal like she know her from before
She believed Arya was not truly committed and would never truly be "no one".
Arya was a "Lady". The high born were never "no one", only the lowest of society.
"You will never truly be one of us".
Every "no one" wanted to burn and disconnect from their miserable past, Arya would always be Arya and had a pleasant past and good memories of her life until the events that led to the story.
Arya was not a true believer, but a schizophrenic, 1/2 true believer, 1/2 not.
In this regard the waif was always correct.
George was writing Arya as history's greatest villains, being retold as the hero through the eyes of an endearing 12 year old girl.
Arya v Waif was Cain v Abel
Arya v ja'quen was Cyclops v Odysseus (No one is straight from Odysseus getting the Cyclops to call him "no one")
Arya in the lady Crain affair was Puck from Midsummer Night's dream
Arya v The Hound was "the Morrigan" vs. the Hound of Ulster from Irish mythology
Arya v Red Woman was Big Bad Wolf v Little red Riding Hood (What big eyes you have!!)
Arya v Walder Frey was Atreus v Thyestes (one of the oldest stories of western civilization, feeding him his sons)
etc.
I believe George is writing the story to finish as Arya becomes the Gollum.'
Arya/No One and Gollum/Smeagol
She will steal the ring of power (save her baby brother Bran) and the books will end differently than the show.
In this "Song of Ice and Fire", an aria is a strong solo in the opera outside the main storyline.
(While her sister IS the story line, Sansa is Stanza plus Sancha of Aragon and sansa is the key this story is sung to)
When she sails away Bran will be on the boat. (With the last surviving "others").
She was envious of Arya's being born a lady, a daughter of the Warden of the North, an ancient family of first men who were Kings of the North. She also was so incredibly afraid and upset that Arya was being taught just as she was. She was the sparring partner but never a teacher.
@@mikeburke7053 Wow...I truly liked all of this!
@@dignature123 I believe the first 4 seasons of GOT were the best literature to film ever done.
The three parts of the book were:
Westeros ( medieval - The Wars of the roses were moment when medieval turns to modern)
Essos (antiquity - The death of Cleopatra and the death of Marc Antony are when Hellenistic turns to Roman and The Roman Republic dies and the Roman Empire is born)
The Wall/North is The Lord of the Rings (The moment the age of Magic ends and the Age of Man begins)
Within the "medieval" you can see Robin Hood. Beric as Robin Hood, Thoros as Friar Tuck, the band of Brothers as Merry Men.
You can see the Borgias (Jamie as Ceasar, Sansa as Sancha, Tyrian as Giovanni, Cersei as Lucrezia, Tywinn as Alexander).
Will, the nightswatchman executed, George has admitted was William Shakespeare. Executing him was Richard of York (Ned), while watching was Edward IV (Rob), Edward V (Bran), Richard III (John), and George Planagenet (Theo).
etc. etc.
Within Antiquity you can Athens fall into tyranny. Xaro as Solon, the warlocks as the Egyptian priests. You can see Spartacus, the slaves nailed to the cross.
etc. etc.
Within The North you can see literature. Munity at Crasters was the Lord of the Flies. The travels to North with Jeor was Winnie the Pooh, Jeor, the old bear as winnie, John as Christopher, Sam as Piglet, Ed as Eeyore, Gillie and the child as Kanga and Roo.
etc. etc.
G. Martin has always said he steals his stories from everybody, he just changes the heroes and villains.
George rewrote antiquity, medieval, and LOTR and changed the heroes and the villains.
@@dignature123 Even the 75% percent of the books that did not get put to screen were mostly the retelling of sci fi and fantasy.
He had characters in there that were "Lord Burt and Sir Grover", if I recollect. They were muppets getting their strings pulled by Lord Hensen.
1:11 "are you sure you're not forgetting someone?"
What, did you want to be on her list? You end up being crossed off of it later 🤭
The Waif, ever the arrogant jerkass, is "fishing for compliments" here. Yet to earn the "honor" of a place on that list, you have to commit heinous crimes against Arya's family & friends (or innocent people in general). Being just a nasty bully is not enough - sorry Waif.
But congratulations, you finally made it to the list by viciously murdering Lady Crane. Now enjoy...
@@teacupkoala175 I always thought that! I loved that line omg
@@teacupkoala175 and also, the Waif by giving her a name would herself be admitting that she is not 'no one'.
@@teacupkoala175 i at first thought it was a step towards coming a faceless men when she asks who needs to be on her kill list too like accepting the requests to kill someone
Unpopular opinion, but I really enjoyed the Waif as a character? She was like a really unique villainous mentor. I don't know if I've ever seen a character quite like her. I loved how robotic she was in a medieval world, too. I just wish this plot was fleshed out a bit more so that the Waif's character could be even stronger.
Yeah me too
The medieval female terminator
Yes and the hottest woman in the series.
@@suffolk-sancuaries ...I truly hope you're not being serious lmfao
Arya: Ow! C*nt!
The Waif(u): Baka!
I wish I saw how Needle plunged through the Waif's eyes. This would have been perfect.
maybe she gouged out her eyes after the fact? I guess we'll never know.
Me I wanted to see the whole moment
@@dosjuguetesamoso1147 Yikes, man! 😆
Needle is the strength of Arya. It protected Arya in many ways specially from mortal danger. The sword that was given by Jon. That swords reminds him of his brother smile Jon Snow. In the books Arya and Jon shares a very strong bonding as siblings that no other stark children shares.
The hero of winterfell ! What an incredibly satisfying story arc
5:02 Me after class is over
At some point, the news of Arya's defeat of the Night King would have reached Braavos. I've often wondered about how Jaqen H'Ghar would react when he heard...
He didn't train her to become one of the assassins. He trained her to serve his god, and to serve the many faced god is to kill. The more she kills, the more impressed he'll be.
He'd definitely be happy with her killing someone that strong.
If Jaqen H’Gar were to originally seek out Arya (Deep Geek) to become an acolyte, perhaps when the night kings name was put into the many faced gods hat, Arya was destined to defeat the night king.
I loved that last line.
The Waif? Where's The Hasban? 😂
Had to admit I thought she was going to kill Arya. And then Arya sliced the candle.... Felt the same way at the end of 300, and then the narrator explained why Leonidas did what he did. LOVE IT.
The waif actress did great!! More credits!!
I read that she quit social media for the hatred received. People are so dumb. Don't they realise that means she's an amazing actress to be so convincing and not actually the waif? 😂
The waif seemed to be jealous of Arya, probably because of where she came from. Her character was somewhat interesting though up until the chase scene, where she abandoned any pretext of being a faceless person and went full on Terminator.
Oh, is that how candles work? lol.
I love how Waif was defeated off screen. Totally not unsatisfying
i heard it was forbidden to show children's death on tv, especially gruesome ones, that may be why?
@@rtybn456 this is the same show that had Robb starks pregnant wife stabbed in the stomach lol. They don't gaf
@@rtybn456 I hate when they do that....its everywhere though...for example: how Billy's death on Predator was totally offscreen...I was all ready to see that knife fight but all you heard was Billy scream
@@rtybn456 they litteraly burned sheeren alive to her death on-screen how is it like that
@@rtybn456 wait but didnt arya kill a fat boy in season 1
Loved the waif. Can’t believe that poor actress got so much hate.
We need a spin-off of this character
The weaknes of Waif was looking at Aya's eyes to know where she will strike next. Aya realized that when she was blind because Waif couldn't predict where she will strike next.
This experience for Arya was pre-ordained for the time that was to come. Its course was likely set long before, and even foretold by the Red Witch. The look on Jaqen H"ghar spells it out, he did his part for the war to come.
Imagine how terrifying it is to be hunted by faceless man.
They pretty much missed the part of Arya being an undertaker, also a fishmonger. Arya was also warging into Nimeria when she slept.
I remember when we thought the waif killed Arya and took her face.
who thought that?
Waif was a daughter of walder frey , when arya took the name of walder frey in her killing list waif was stunned for a moment and then decided to kill arya
You cant change that, i cant change that ,"No one" can
No one is the best teacher in the entire GOT universe.
What happens to the faceless man in the end? We don’t see him anymore
A man wants to see no one?
Arya is Schrodinger's cat. Arya is 50% dead in that cave.
Arya's story arch is the best
This is the only thing that comes to mind everytime she appears on Andor.
It's always nice to put a face to a name.
Some of the best parts of the series.
Arya: Ow! C*nt!
The Waif(u): Baka!
Arya Arya
She was jealous from day one. Her 'training' was spiteful from the start. She was there first and then comes this highborn girl, one he took special interest in. Constantly calling Arya lovely girl, and being forgiving when Arya made mistakes. Yeah the waif was green with envy and hated that someone prettier, smarter, and noble born had the nerve to come into her territory. Was so glad when she died, I disliked the character.
Would like to say she was simply following orders but got to argue that point. If she was all about listening to Jacqen she would have done as he told. He said 'make sure she doesn't suffer'. She stabbed Arya in the stomach instead of slicing her throat. She meant for Arya's death to be slow and painful. This alone proved that her actions went beyond the Faceless and emotions ruled her hands. Arya should have carved out her lady parts and placed it in his bed, because she was acting like a jealous lover.
prettier? woah. LOL
Arya isn’t prettier but I agree with everything else
@@majestyk8654 yeah she wasn’t as pretty as others, like Sansa. But Jacq clearly saw something he liked, he called her lovely. Eyes of the beholder I guess. I like to think it was her inner strength which made her special (lovely) to him. A lot of my male friends think she’s cute.
@@kimcreel669 dont think the waif was romantically in love with jaqen, but she was def jealous of her. He didnt fall in love with arya either, he was just fascinated by her potential imo, and maybe saw her as a friend.
That's the reason why GOT became more Hit🔥#Aryastark
Game of Thrones is the best ever epic grandeur tv show in the history ❤️
Expect 7,8 season
@@aryxn_ I'd even give 7 a pass, it had its moment, but 8 sucked
@@aryxn_ it's not been truly epic since season 4.
Yeah, if you stop counting past season 5.
But you could say the same thing about lots of great shows that failed to stick their landings, but none failed so spectacularly as Game of Thrones.
I always believed Arya was brought there to kill the waif.
the waif pissed me off so much
She can he my waif any day
The Faceless men was believed to brought the doom to Valyria. Theyre freaking awesome. 😀
Welp bout to re watch this masterpiece
this is the right response
In the book the waif was a woman in her thirties who took medicine that made her look like a child. She was a midget who never grew up.
i would liked to see him appear in the final seaon, maybe saving arya in the big battle of the dead and when she goes to him he says something like "no one saves arya stark"
I knew I recognized Vel from Andor. She was the Waif!
No one is the most contemplative question in this series.
I am in a strange place
Who are you?
I dont know what I want
You are no stranger
You dont want anything
I am hollow.
I hated it the moment Arya sliced the candle. The room was filled with darkness and voila! The Waif's head is already placed on that some sort of an altar. It should have been satisfying if they did a fist to fist or sword to sword combat and to see how Needle cuts off the Waif's head.
yes, intended anticlimactic scene..I think since we've seen much fighting between Arya and the Waif, they decided to cut it out, and just shortcut it to the scene with Jaqen, but I agree, I was disappointed myself during the actual screening of the episode.
"finally a girl is no one". Why? What does that mean? Why does killing the Waif make Arya "no one"? This whole plot made zero sense.
I took it as a form of acknowledgement that Arya has finished her training, and was worthy to join him as a faceless one. But Arya refused it to return home.
you really needed someone to explain that to you? it was abundantly clear
Too bad Arya seemed to forget all her water dance fighting while in the House of Black and White.
whats the name of the ost starts playing at 3:38 ?
Waaaaaaaaaw
Best scene in got wen he Said: finally a girl is no one
And She Said:
A girl is aya stark of winterfull
arya took some words from the hound's vocab😭
background music name plsss
Not today!
The Waif had hands!
When Game of Thrones officially jumped the shark
What makes you say that
@@sadlobster1 Arya getting stabbed in the stomach twice, has the knife twisted inside of her, falls into a medieval city river absolutely infested with bacteria that people empty their chamber pots in, and gets better in like, a week?
What is the waif's accent? I love it!
Russian
The actress who plays the waif is British. She's also in the white queen, another great series.
So the Waif killed Aria and was acting under her face for the rest of the series.
The waif got what she deserved. And she wasn't even on Arya's list (that we know of).
It was impossible for Arya to put her on the list even though she wanted to, she can't put a person on the list if she doesn't has the name. The faceless-men have no name so that's why, but she obviously wanted her dead
This actually had me shocked 😲
She did what she was supposed to do, put many eyes to sleep. Brown eyes, black eyes … and blue eyes
You know what, I used to think this storyline was dumb, and I still do (mostly because Arya is so careless and that wound really should've gotten infected, but she got off scot free). But it's better than I remember. The two actresses seem to have good chemistry, and their fight scenes all in a row show a clear picture (Arya is never better than her with sight, but specifically got good at countering her while blind). I think previously I rejected this because I was hoping the House of Black and White would be a longer/more interesting plot and the waif is quite different from her book counterpart. Shame we never got to see Arya warging cats or whatnot.
LOVE this scene!!
I own the entire series in 4K. It is incredibly idiotic that HBOMax neglects to offer GOT on their streaming platform in Dolby Vision.
They gotta sell merch dummy
@@marvdatboi You are right; I'm the fool for my opinion, and I'm OK with that, but let's focus I'm talking about something that is a widespread factor on the streaming service HBOMax that continues well after a year of no expansion in the 4K UHD library and WarnerMedia has access to tons of movies already on 4K disc that they refuse to offer on the streaming service is all I'm meaning. I'm a dummy for that; I don't give a care in the world.
@@marvdatboi what does that have to do with merch?
@@scz718645 4k DVD's are merch
@@panacea.palace house of the dragon is in 4k streaming?
Only who knows what you really are, then you turn into a real no one and won't get lost!
i wonder if Jaqqen realized he was training the end of the Night King
He wasn’t a green seer. He didn’t know.
Jaqen pushed her blade into the place she stabed the night king
I am going home …
Eric Cartman
The only storyline those Dbag writers got right. Mr Martin please finish the books 🙏
Arya💗✌
arya is the best.
The waif is very terminator esque
When you're cooked on shrooms this video is amazing
I have a love hate relationship towards this arc. On one hand I love it, on the other I hate it cause it feels too surreal...
Well-acted and the scenes were well-written but the arc was badly done from the books. In the books, The Waif wasn't (yet) an antagonist but fellow trainee and the Servants of the Many-Faced Gods were playing at the Game of Thrones themselves. Like a lot of what Martin wrote, unresolved or ignored by the producers as they neared the end of what Martin had published.
She did have a funny little list i think.
I never understood the Point
I never understood what’s the deal with the waif
My question, did faceless men failed to make her no one?
she got the training for a faceless men, but she chose to keep her identity and not serve with the assassins.
@@magestag6208 Exactly. Probably "finally a girl is no-one" is partly him trying to stall her killing him if she wants to and partly an official graduation certificate.
If the prey is bleeding just follow the scent
There’s no way the Faceless Men would’ve let Arya walk out of there alive
She walked in alive, how would she not walk out?
episode no.
🔥🔥🔥🔥Best series ever!!!
If you stop watching around season 5.
Ooga booga 1:49
never understood why they called her the "waif."
A debt is paid.
Omg my Queen Anne Neville
the waif was trash. she was ego driven, bitter and jealous of arya, so she was never a good candidate for a faceless either.
Queen anne neville!!!
3:08:
"He can't change that, I can't change that... No One CAN"
Indeed, Arya became No One and therefore changed the outcome.
#RESTORETHESNYDERVERSE